| 00:18.22 | *** join/#htc-linux AstainHellbring (n=Administ@unaffiliated/astainhellbring) |
| 00:34.23 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: pong |
| 00:43.50 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: I would like to talk to you about kaiser mmutracing again if you have a minute |
| 00:46.51 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: What's up? |
| 00:47.17 | dcordes_ | well we didn't get the success from it yet we hoped we would |
| 00:48.23 | dcordes_ | when we trace all vregs that map to the htc kaiser shared memory physical ram area we don't see the actual AT registers we are interested in |
| 00:50.22 | Kevin2 | Are you watching all the virtual mappings? |
| 00:52.02 | dcordes_ | now that you ask, not really. |
| 00:52.17 | dcordes_ | I am not watching this "addlist mmutrace 0x4a20a000 (0x4a30c000 - 0x4a20a000)" |
| 00:52.28 | dcordes_ | because it makes wince freeze |
| 00:52.40 | dcordes_ | as soon as I started wirq |
| 00:52.59 | Kevin2 | What's the memory are you are looking to trace? |
| 00:54.25 | dcordes_ | physical one? |
| 00:54.35 | dcordes_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap |
| 00:54.38 | dcordes_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.50 | dcordes_ | 0x01f00000 1M in size |
| 00:55.44 | Kevin2 | Sure, but what are the locations of the "AT registers" that you want to trace? |
| 00:56.13 | dcordes_ | the ones right at the beginning |
| 00:56.16 | dcordes_ | AT tx |
| 00:56.24 | dcordes_ | the whole lot |
| 00:57.23 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: What was the output of "dump mmu 2 0x01f00000 1024*1024" again? |
| 00:57.33 | dcordes_ | I didn't do that I think |
| 00:58.30 | dcordes_ | one second |
| 01:00.54 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: http://rafb.net/p/5sfj1S11.html |
| 01:01.10 | dcordes_ | what does the 2 do? |
| 01:03.35 | dcordes_ | that dump makes me wonder why I watched http://rafb.net/p/zRZCIZ25.html |
| 01:03.37 | dcordes_ | before |
| 01:05.44 | Kevin2 | You could try adding: addlist mmutrace 0x4a300000 0xc000 -- and see if it still hangs. |
| 01:05.44 | *** join/#htc-linux Rober99 (n=rkaszala@ip70-189-142-94.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 01:05.44 | Rober99 | Hi all |
| 01:05.44 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 01:05.46 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: can I assume the other things I watched before are not quite smem? |
| 01:06.20 | Kevin2 | If it does still hang, you can try adding: addlist mmutrace 0x4a200000 1024*1024 -- instead |
| 01:06.42 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: The stuff you were watching seems to map fine with the output from dump mmu 2 -- look at the last 4 lines of the dump. |
| 01:07.41 | dcordes_ | oh fine, I was ommitting those |
| 01:08.54 | Rober99 | Does the phone dialer work in Linux on a ppc6700 or still wip? i looked on a few pages didnt see an answer. |
| 01:09.45 | Kevin2 | Rober99: ppc6700 is apache I think. I don't think phone support was ever completed. |
| 01:10.58 | Rober99 | Ah so i should just avoid loading linux on it just yet. |
| 01:11.21 | Rober99 | Is there any phone that linux is fully working that would work with Sprint? |
| 01:11.42 | dcordes_ | Rober99: openmoko phone? |
| 01:11.59 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: seems like it froze after AT activity now |
| 01:13.29 | Rober99 | Well i have been looking at google android, which is supposed to be built on linux base, but thats still far from release to phones. |
| 01:15.40 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: With which watched area added? |
| 01:15.55 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: ok recofirmed. I did a softreset, turned off bluetooth, and phone, fired up haret, connected through wifi, addlist mmutrace 0x4a200000 1024*1024, set permissivemmutrace 1, wirq 36, turned on phone in wince connection manager, wince loading animation appears and doesn't quit spinning |
| 01:16.23 | dcordes_ | 1st time I did this, screen and power button both didn't react |
| 01:16.38 | dcordes_ | now the turn off thing showed up after I held down power btn |
| 01:16.54 | dcordes_ | accidently enabled sleep, screen turned off, doesn't turn on again |
| 01:17.07 | dcordes_ | briefly: it's pretty broken after the trace added |
| 01:17.15 | dcordes_ | AND phone enabled |
| 01:19.27 | dcordes_ | I will add the trace again and poke around a bit in wince w/o phone on |
| 01:19.39 | Kevin2 | Okay, what about: addlist mmutrace 0x4a300000 0xc000 instead? |
| 01:19.45 | dcordes_ | ok that one then |
| 01:20.56 | dcordes_ | ! |
| 01:29.05 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: http://rafb.net/p/hTdOVQ34.html |
| 01:34.16 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: just when I tried to trace phone turn on/off it died againb |
| 01:45.53 | *** join/#htc-linux SmallR2883 (n=SmallR20@adsl-68-75-181-215.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 01:51.18 | *** join/#htc-linux surgex0 (i=surge@pool-71-186-163-107.bflony.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:15.39 | *** join/#htc-linux Patrick_Bateman (n=swc|666@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 02:38.06 | *** join/#htc-linux ndavey (n=neil@pc075650.workstation.griffith.edu.au) |
| 02:56.21 | *** join/#htc-linux pigeon_ (n=pigeon@60-241-137-179.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:01.49 | *** join/#htc-linux pigeon__ (n=pigeon@218-214-60-232.people.net.au) |
| 03:01.50 | *** join/#htc-linux dcordes (n=dcordes@unaffiliated/dcordes) |
| 03:31.27 | *** join/#htc-linux TimRiker (n=timr@rikers.org) |
| 03:41.44 | *** join/#htc-linux SmallR2883 (n=SmallR20@c-67-162-60-33.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:54.23 | *** join/#htc-linux goxboxlive (n=goxboxli@195.159.97.196) |
| 05:53.57 | *** join/#htc-linux kiozen (n=oeichler@p54929C18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:09.11 | *** join/#htc-linux no2chem2 (n=user@h-64-105-27-190.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 06:09.23 | no2chem2 | anyone here with titan experience by chance.. |
| 06:09.31 | no2chem2 | or um , familiarity with haret |
| 06:09.50 | no2chem2 | ..does haret read stuff in kernel mode? |
| 06:14.35 | no2chem2 | or better question.. is there a way to make haret just read a byte.. |
| 06:14.46 | no2chem2 | (which is not aligned) |
| 06:17.17 | *** join/#htc-linux kiozen_ (n=oeichler@p54928191.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:22.41 | *** join/#htc-linux skodde (n=skodde@unaffiliated/skodde) |
| 06:54.32 | *** join/#htc-linux rob_w (n=bob@Ma715.m.pppool.de) |
| 07:35.00 | *** join/#htc-linux tsdogs (n=tsdogs@net-84-18-144-39.c.bkom.it) |
| 07:45.09 | *** join/#htc-linux rob_w|laptop (n=rob@p549B92C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:41.04 | *** join/#htc-linux hagisbasheruk (n=hagisbas@78.148.139.115) |
| 08:41.32 | *** join/#htc-linux swc|666 (n=swc|666@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 09:11.31 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=fcr@unaffiliated/babelo) |
| 09:15.03 | BabelO | hi |
| 09:18.21 | swc|666 | hi BabelO |
| 09:20.53 | *** join/#htc-linux ndavey (n=neil@220-244-142-101.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:22.39 | no2chem2 | anyone here awake familiar with msmxxxx interrupts? |
| 09:42.33 | *** join/#htc-linux Tonny (n=chatzill@set25-1-88-166-169-49.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:52.31 | *** join/#htc-linux Othello (i=Magorium@gateway/tor/x-2db2ea5f3172d803) |
| 11:04.19 | *** join/#htc-linux marex (n=marex@vasut.kolej.mff.cuni.cz) |
| 11:05.08 | *** join/#htc-linux miknix (n=miknix@81.193.86.143) |
| 11:13.15 | *** join/#htc-linux goxboxlive (n=goxboxli@208.84-48-176.nextgentel.com) |
| 11:36.20 | dcordes | martin__: yo ping |
| 11:43.24 | dcordes | hi no2chem2 |
| 12:24.52 | *** join/#htc-linux dcordes_ (n=dcordes@unaffiliated/dcordes) |
| 12:42.08 | dcordes_ | no2chem2: wanna improve titan documentations? |
| 12:43.54 | dcordes_ | that's what's present so far http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanResearch |
| 12:44.03 | *** join/#htc-linux no2chem (n=user@h-68-164-238-74.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 12:58.57 | *** join/#htc-linux marajin_ (n=marajin@87-194-102-189.bethere.co.uk) |
| 12:59.10 | marajin_ | Allo Allo Allo |
| 13:06.07 | *** join/#htc-linux no2chem2 (n=user@h-72-245-3-112.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 13:08.37 | marajin_ | dcordes_: Niiiice on the GPS working thing, by the way |
| 13:09.44 | dcordes_ | thank martin__ |
| 13:10.24 | marajin_ | marajin :p My name is actually Tom for what it's worth |
| 13:11.08 | marajin_ | Anyway, I'm just about to try the new images/initrd stuff you posted, hopefully the console image'll play ball this time |
| 13:11.41 | swc|666 | marajin_: which image? |
| 13:11.58 | dcordes_ | marajin_: no you need to thank "martin__" in this channel |
| 13:12.17 | marajin_ | dcordes_: Ah sorry, my bad :p |
| 13:12.20 | dcordes_ | marajin_: the zImage is the old one. I didn't make one with the martin__ code yet |
| 13:12.26 | dcordes_ | o wait |
| 13:12.27 | dcordes_ | I did |
| 13:13.00 | marajin_ | martin__ : Thanks for making GPS work! |
| 13:13.25 | marajin_ | swc|666: HTC Kaiser stuff that dcordes has been working on |
| 13:13.32 | swc|666 | ah |
| 13:13.58 | dcordes_ | marajin_: ok now it's the gps one |
| 13:14.05 | dcordes_ | so you can try the stuff in the README.txt now |
| 13:14.16 | dcordes_ | just make sure gps is active on boottime |
| 13:14.16 | marajin_ | ok will redownload it, was just about to copy stuff to my kaiser anyway |
| 13:14.20 | marajin_ | aye |
| 13:14.33 | *** join/#htc-linux Othello (i=Magorium@gateway/tor/x-f41b973721d57a0d) |
| 13:16.13 | dcordes_ | Xmoo booted the angstrom-console yesterday |
| 13:16.18 | dcordes_ | bbl |
| 13:16.51 | marajin_ | dcordes_: I made some attempts to prise info out of people I know at google but they're not saying much. I got some vaguelyinteresting feedback on the kaiser windows mobile graphics driversfroma guy who works at MS too |
| 13:18.30 | marajin_ | dcordes_: Also looks like the console image is booting today yep.. I... think |
| 13:18.31 | *** join/#htc-linux zoolooc (n=lucian@nrbg-4dbfd5e3.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 13:18.45 | zoolooc | hi folks |
| 13:18.51 | zoolooc | dcordes_: ping |
| 13:18.58 | marajin_ | zoolooc: He just want afk |
| 13:19.02 | marajin_ | *went |
| 13:19.55 | zoolooc | marajin_: ok, thanks... he just posted on xxda-dev he uploaded a kernel for the Kaiser, but in fact he just deleted the old one :-) |
| 13:20.01 | marajin_ | hmm, no the console image just freezes half blank screen |
| 13:20.07 | marajin_ | zoolooc: Nope, it's there, I just download it |
| 13:20.23 | marajin_ | ... oh hmm |
| 13:20.30 | marajin_ | I download one but now it does seem to have disappeared |
| 13:20.49 | zoolooc | marajin_: see? that's what I mean |
| 13:21.10 | marajin_ | doesn't matter, the new kernel is only for allowing GPS reads |
| 13:21.27 | marajin_ | he'll sort it out when he returns I imagine |
| 13:21.33 | zoolooc | guess so |
| 13:22.10 | marajin_ | Have you tried booting the console image? |
| 13:22.21 | zoolooc | well, long time ago |
| 13:22.27 | zoolooc | not recently |
| 13:22.46 | marajin_ | I used to just get haret whining about too large, now it just freezes |
| 13:22.55 | marajin_ | odd cause it invariably boots android every time |
| 13:23.51 | zoolooc | hmm, I used to have some freezes at some point, but lately I could get into the android initrd prety easy, and android restarted itself inside the java VM every now and then |
| 13:24.12 | marajin_ | android's booted with a 100% success rate for me,e verysingle attempt boots |
| 13:25.08 | marajin_ | ... interesting, it doesn't boot anymore though, maybe the zImage I downloaded is corrupt |
| 13:25.20 | *** part/#htc-linux swc|666 (n=swc|666@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 13:25.31 | marajin_ | ...rofl, yeah it is |
| 13:25.32 | marajin_ | 1kb |
| 13:25.36 | marajin_ | whoops |
| 13:27.08 | zoolooc | :-) |
| 13:27.13 | zoolooc | alright, cu later |
| 13:27.18 | *** part/#htc-linux zoolooc (n=lucian@nrbg-4dbfd5e3.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 13:27.18 | marajin_ | seeya |
| 13:30.00 | marajin_ | nice, console booted |
| 13:47.04 | dcordes_ | marajin_: should work now. can you download the zImage again and try?= |
| 13:48.58 | marajin_ | dcordes_: Certainly, one second |
| 13:49.40 | dcordes_ | please also try if you can make and read from GPS node |
| 13:50.13 | marajin_ | dcordes_: So hey, this WM guy I know, couldn't say anything specific but he basically said this: The MSM7x00 drivers are a big issue but he can't explain what exactly has happened, essentially we really SHOULD blame the OEM (HTC, etc.) and that "WM7 will be better in this respect" |
| 13:50.18 | marajin_ | Which is.. intriguing |
| 13:51.07 | dcordes_ | gotta run |
| 13:51.09 | marajin_ | dcordes_: He also told me WM7 will sodomize a hermes visciously (read: it won't run fast enough to be useable) |
| 13:51.26 | dcordes_ | who cares about wm7 :) |
| 13:51.29 | marajin_ | heh |
| 13:51.38 | *** join/#htc-linux Zba_Phy_ (n=none@2a01:e35:8a13:a2b0:21c:c0ff:fe25:ff68) |
| 13:51.53 | marajin_ | dcordes_: Well we'll see, I'm just intrigue that he says that WM7 will be "better" when it comes to the graphics drivers? |
| 13:53.34 | marajin_ | dcordes_: Ok, copying new zImage over and initializing my GPS.. |
| 13:55.00 | marajin_ | dcordes_: Waiting for it to fix my position.. should be ok, reporting 11 sattelites in view |
| 13:57.00 | *** join/#htc-linux zed_ (n=zed@193.204.187.211) |
| 13:58.46 | marajin_ | dcordes_: Position fixed, booted into console.. mknodded, catting and..yep, shit load of nmea data |
| 13:58.52 | zed_ | hi all |
| 13:58.53 | *** join/#htc-linux Xmoo (n=Info@h241015.upc-h.chello.nl) |
| 13:59.00 | marajin_ | zed_: 'lo |
| 13:59.28 | zed_ | someone have tried to boot linux on a HTC p6300? |
| 13:59.51 | *** join/#htc-linux Xmoo (n=Info@h241015.upc-h.chello.nl) |
| 13:59.57 | Xmoo | wasuuup ya'll |
| 14:00.06 | marajin_ | hey xmoo |
| 14:00.13 | Xmoo | hi |
| 14:00.31 | *** join/#htc-linux dcordes (n=dcordes@unaffiliated/dcordes) |
| 14:00.38 | Xmoo | Wasssuuup dc :D |
| 14:00.46 | marajin_ | dcordes: wb there |
| 14:01.06 | marajin_ | the GPS seems to be spitting nmea data just fine on my kaiser |
| 14:01.12 | Xmoo | brb |
| 14:01.14 | Xmoo | f00d |
| 14:01.21 | marajin_ | f00d is always good |
| 14:04.10 | *** join/#htc-linux Dominus (i=unices@ip5652ade4.speed.planet.nl) |
| 14:07.58 | *** join/#htc-linux Dinde (n=kayser@sur-internet.net) |
| 14:16.24 | Xmoo | so wassup |
| 14:16.28 | Xmoo | ya'll got gps to work? |
| 14:24.25 | marajin | Xmoo: Works for me yeap |
| 14:27.08 | Xmoo | in adroid? |
| 14:27.51 | marajin | didn't try in android, I think not in android probably |
| 14:27.58 | marajin | but it works fromconsole |
| 14:28.18 | Xmoo | well everything can work trough console |
| 14:28.21 | Xmoo | but hope it will in android |
| 14:28.41 | marajin | well it will, as long as the mknod is done and android know what to read |
| 14:28.52 | marajin | but it won't happen by default at the moment I guess |
| 14:29.01 | marajin | we can probably add/edit it into the initrd though |
| 14:33.52 | *** join/#htc-linux Zoolooc (n=fredsiba@nrbg-4dbfd5e3.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 14:34.22 | marajin | Zoolooc: Wb, the zImage is up now and works on my kaiser |
| 14:35.09 | Zoolooc | hi |
| 14:35.15 | Zoolooc | thx for the info, marajin |
| 14:35.27 | Xmoo | ya'll all from germany? |
| 14:36.05 | marajin | Xmoo: Why would we all be from germany? Zoolooc probably is given the .de though |
| 14:36.18 | Xmoo | yeah but dc is also form germany |
| 14:36.42 | marajin | Well I'm english |
| 14:38.09 | Zoolooc | lives in germany |
| 14:39.15 | Zoolooc | nevertheless, /me hopes Portugal wins tonight |
| 14:39.31 | marajin | Meh |
| 14:40.02 | marajin | fussball ist langweilig! |
| 14:40.23 | Zoolooc | not during final tournaments |
| 14:40.39 | Zoolooc | well, unless watching to romanians |
| 14:40.43 | Zoolooc | or french |
| 14:40.47 | marajin | Naw they always make a big fuss about stupid little things |
| 14:40.50 | marajin | I get fed up with it |
| 14:40.53 | Xmoo | i'm off to work guys |
| 14:40.54 | Xmoo | holla |
| 14:40.59 | marajin | Xmoo: Catcha |
| 14:41.44 | Zoolooc | marajin: you're right about the big fuss, though |
| 14:43.12 | marajin | well yeah, always with the big falls and injuries and complaints about bias and blah blahblah |
| 14:43.20 | marajin | they're like teenage schoolgirls |
| 14:44.00 | marajin | I like football as we played it at school |
| 14:44.07 | marajin | though really I was more of a hockey fan |
| 14:44.19 | marajin | If the ref didn't see it, anything was legal in those games :> |
| 14:44.31 | marajin | and they even give you a nice stick to hit people with! |
| 14:44.40 | marajin | But nobody ever went off with an injury |
| 14:45.41 | dcordes | allo |
| 14:45.49 | marajin | dcordes: Ah there you are =) |
| 14:47.03 | dcordes | gps in android would be no problem. just extract the crap and grep it for "smd" |
| 14:47.12 | dcordes | probably dev and smd |
| 14:47.16 | marajin | yep |
| 14:47.36 | dcordes | you can show off as the first guy who has android gps on his phone ;) |
| 14:47.45 | dcordes | and make a famous youtube video |
| 14:47.52 | marajin | haha, the first guy outside of google yes |
| 14:48.04 | marajin | But we have no data yet so the maps won't display! |
| 14:48.10 | dcordes | no data? |
| 14:48.14 | dcordes | ah right.. |
| 14:48.17 | dcordes | gotcha |
| 14:48.28 | marajin | yeah, no GPRS/EDGE/3G/etc. |
| 14:49.09 | marajin | we must attack google HQ and steal anything that looks like it might be compatible with the kaiser! :P |
| 14:49.22 | dcordes | hehehe |
| 14:49.49 | dcordes | won't help they will use an msm7500A |
| 14:49.55 | marajin | I'll send my GF, she's in Berkeley in california at the moment and can easily get to San Fransisco! |
| 14:50.25 | marajin | hmm, btw, what's the difference between CDMA and GSM phones and is it linked to how the data networks (GPRS/EDGE/3G/HSDPA) work ? |
| 14:50.32 | dcordes | looks similar to kaiser means it has a keyboard and an msm7x00x chip |
| 14:50.53 | dcordes | marajin: good question don't know |
| 14:51.01 | dcordes | ask the mokos at #openmoko they can certainly tell |
| 14:51.05 | dcordes | or read documentation about it |
| 14:51.12 | *** join/#htc-linux JohnnyK (n=johnnyk@nfx-nat-229.pilsfree.net) |
| 14:51.16 | marajin | Well I have a veeeery vague memory that CDMA phones don't use edge/3G/hsdpa |
| 14:51.20 | marajin | but I could be completely wrong |
| 14:51.37 | marajin | but if that's true, then it means google must have GSM phones too because they demo devices using 3G |
| 14:51.39 | dcordes | maybe cdma and gsm are not compatible but the 3g stuff is? |
| 14:52.49 | marajin | Interesting.. |
| 14:52.57 | marajin | it sounds as if CDMA and 3G are rival technologies |
| 14:53.00 | marajin | rather than CDMA and GSM |
| 14:53.27 | marajin | but you could call CDMA a 3G network in ways |
| 14:55.01 | marajin | Ah yes, that's right. yeah CDMA is supposed to go with EVDO |
| 14:55.15 | marajin | not GPRS/EDGE/3G/HSDPA |
| 14:56.13 | marajin | and HSDPA is much faster than EVDO |
| 14:56.27 | marajin | well actually on the kaiser maybe not but the theoretical max is higher |
| 14:56.45 | marajin | still, it's possible google are using GSM/3G prototypes too |
| 14:57.17 | marajin | It'd be illogical that they haven't at least tested it by now |
| 15:01.35 | dcordes | thanks for the insight |
| 15:02.30 | dcordes | I think they are rivals because some big providers in the usA and other countries (like newzeeland) try and stick with CDMA because their networks are cdma |
| 15:04.19 | marajin | Naja, ist immer die problem |
| 15:04.37 | marajin | But anyway, at least we can probably assume most of the stuff we need exists, we just have to find it |
| 15:06.30 | dcordes | huh? |
| 15:06.54 | marajin | nevermind |
| 15:07.26 | marajin | But it makes sense that since google want all the world to be able to use android, that they probably have support for GSM/UMTS/CDMA/whatever |
| 15:08.36 | dcordes | then it will most likely be an msm7200A |
| 15:08.39 | dcordes | not msm7200 |
| 15:08.55 | marajin | I thought the a units were cdma and the normal were gsm ? |
| 15:09.09 | dcordes | no it's 200 and 500 |
| 15:09.28 | marajin | ah so what does A mean? |
| 15:09.54 | dcordes | I don't know exactly what the a does but A for example has two more sdccs |
| 15:10.23 | marajin | hmm |
| 15:10.54 | dcordes | and the mmu is setup differently whichi s probably the biggest hassle |
| 15:11.31 | marajin | yeah |
| 15:12.17 | marajin | ...wtf does the 7x25 do then? |
| 15:15.10 | dcordes | hm? |
| 15:15.26 | dcordes | ah I see yea that's even a different variant I know nothing about |
| 15:16.11 | Zoolooc | also, the A seems to be newer chip technology, therefore higher cpu freq |
| 15:16.35 | Zoolooc | gruezi dcordes |
| 15:16.49 | dcordes | gruezi gruezi |
| 15:17.26 | dcordes | anyway what's of interest for all of us kaiser owners comes down to the differences between msm7200 and msm7500A |
| 15:18.58 | marajin | YEAH |
| 15:19.04 | marajin | sorry, *yeah |
| 15:19.16 | marajin | for now anyway |
| 15:19.42 | Zoolooc | why're you yellin ;) ? |
| 15:20.11 | marajin | I pressed the wrong button :( |
| 15:20.20 | marajin | I'm feeling ill today and I keep making mistakes like that |
| 15:21.14 | dcordes | be a man and get some painkillers like vj4 |
| 15:21.52 | *** join/#htc-linux okias (i=ejabberd@poseidon.kraja.cz) |
| 15:22.52 | marajin | isn't it more manly to not take painkillers? :P |
| 15:22.58 | marajin | besides, I never said it hurt |
| 15:23.04 | marajin | just that I feel ill |
| 15:26.55 | dcordes | try beer |
| 15:27.46 | marajin | unfortunately at 4:30pm it is too early as I must go do some work in the next few minutes |
| 15:28.06 | marajin | otherwise I would be treating myself to a few guinness |
| 15:29.11 | marajin | sings, "Beer! Beer! Beer! Beer! Beer! Beer! Beer! A long time ago... way back in history, when all there was to drink was nothing but cups of tea... along came a man, by the name of charlie mops, and he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops..." |
| 15:30.07 | dcordes | hmm guiness |
| 15:30.15 | dcordes | I'd use one of those |
| 15:30.30 | marajin | heh |
| 15:30.33 | dcordes | nothing but tea lol |
| 15:30.44 | dcordes | there is that term for anti alcoholic ppl |
| 15:30.45 | marajin | you don't know that song? |
| 15:30.53 | marajin | it'sa great song |
| 15:30.54 | dcordes | fullteaer? |
| 15:30.57 | dcordes | totaltear? |
| 15:31.02 | marajin | ah we say t-totaller |
| 15:31.07 | dcordes | yeea right |
| 15:31.09 | dcordes | haha |
| 15:31.11 | dcordes | that's so great |
| 15:31.29 | dcordes | no didn't know that song |
| 15:31.38 | marajin | ah it's fun |
| 15:31.56 | *** join/#htc-linux TimRiker (n=timr@70-1-81-234.area1.spcsdns.net) |
| 15:32.09 | marajin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdO6xLqc-Yo |
| 15:35.22 | *** join/#htc-linux no2chem (n=user@h-72-245-84-85.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 15:37.55 | *** join/#htc-linux AstainHellbring (n=Administ@unaffiliated/astainhellbring) |
| 15:40.00 | marajin | well |
| 15:40.02 | marajin | I must go |
| 15:40.10 | marajin | catch you guys later |
| 15:40.12 | dcordes | ok cya |
| 15:40.19 | marajin | Don't magically fix the kaiser while I'm gone! :P |
| 15:40.41 | marajin | and don't get drunk and spill beer on your kaisers so that you can't work on iteither! |
| 15:40.44 | marajin | :p |
| 15:40.53 | dcordes | oh I will get drunk later |
| 15:40.59 | marajin | good man |
| 15:41.05 | dcordes | here's a demo of the openmoko-fso image http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone1/FrameworkMilestone1.m4v |
| 15:41.47 | dcordes | I like it more than both the normal openmoko gtk interface and qtopia approach |
| 15:45.12 | *** join/#htc-linux LunohoD_ (n=alex@e180069097.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:48.42 | Zoolooc | dcordes: that openmoko image in your linux2go folder boots on kaiser? |
| 15:48.50 | marajin | heh |
| 15:49.03 | marajin | it's very slow though |
| 15:49.16 | marajin | Zoolooc: Nah X doesn't work so no UI but I think it's technically booting |
| 15:49.20 | dcordes | Zoolooc: no the video was shot by one of the openmoko lead developers and it's an openmoko cellphone |
| 15:49.32 | marajin | anyway |
| 15:49.35 | marajin | now I really must go |
| 15:49.36 | marajin | later |
| 15:49.41 | dcordes | Zoolooc: right, just the UI doesn't come up. but it's a hassle to debug this without any shell in |
| 15:49.45 | Zoolooc | bye marajin |
| 15:49.47 | dcordes | cya |
| 15:51.48 | Zoolooc | dcordes: hmm, if SD support will be done, one can imagine almost any distro, at least in the console, from the sd-card, and you'd have almost any open-source dev tool right there |
| 15:53.35 | dcordes | yep |
| 15:53.38 | *** join/#htc-linux exco (n=excogita@scenicl-69.itm.mw.tum.de) |
| 16:14.46 | dcordes | marajin: have you seen the new dump I pasted? |
| 16:17.50 | *** join/#htc-linux Othello (i=Magorium@gateway/tor/x-c3632f5ea1d6f30b) |
| 16:19.16 | AstainHellbring | dcordes nice write up on the current status of android & linux on the kaiser |
| 16:20.01 | dcordes | thanks I thought this might get rid of confusion |
| 16:23.45 | *** join/#htc-linux Othello__ (i=Magorium@gateway/tor/x-bb93ef3f5cb86a35) |
| 16:31.26 | *** join/#htc-linux pleemans (n=peter@d51A5E76A.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:31.55 | *** join/#htc-linux Tonny_ (n=chatzill@set25-1-88-166-169-49.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:46.04 | *** join/#htc-linux AstainHellbring (n=Administ@unaffiliated/astainhellbring) |
| 17:04.09 | *** join/#htc-linux Othello (i=Magorium@gateway/tor/x-3d49febf036f34bb) |
| 17:07.26 | ginge_ | this Kaiser has 3 UARTS, what do each of them do again? |
| 17:07.38 | dcordes | 1 is bluetooth afaik |
| 17:08.18 | ginge_ | I just got UART 2 registered without commenting out that read request |
| 17:08.24 | ginge_ | just probing it now |
| 17:08.27 | dcordes | k |
| 17:08.42 | dcordes | maybe that's the serial port on the board |
| 17:16.52 | martin__ | ginge_: sweet! |
| 17:17.05 | ginge_ | same with 3 |
| 17:17.21 | ginge_ | trying to talk to it causes errors still |
| 17:17.28 | martin__ | hmm |
| 17:17.30 | ginge_ | so no clues on uart 3 |
| 17:17.40 | ginge_ | I probably set up the device node wrong |
| 17:18.18 | ginge_ | I am guessing the major and minor for mknod. How do I determine the correct values? |
| 17:23.36 | dcordes | check /proc/devices |
| 17:25.52 | ginge_ | I take it back. Uart3 does cause the lockup in the same place as UART1. I forgot to build the kernel :S |
| 17:27.03 | dcordes | marajin: look at thhis http://rafb.net/p/y24JPu50.html |
| 17:27.10 | dcordes | martin__: |
| 17:27.27 | dcordes | if we don't trace the entire1M after 0x4a300000 it doesn't freeze on wirq |
| 17:28.19 | ginge_ | nice. Does that mean we can trace the uart now? |
| 17:28.42 | dcordes | no |
| 17:28.44 | dcordes | it's the smem |
| 17:29.35 | *** join/#htc-linux Tonny_ (n=chatzill@set25-1-88-166-169-49.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:29.55 | ginge_ | sure, but does the fact that "if we don't trace the entire1M ... it doesn't freeze" mean we can do the same for UART, or is that a different issue? |
| 17:30.45 | dcordes | yes different issue: I add up everything that maps to uart1 phys to the mmutrace and see no reads/writes |
| 17:30.55 | martin__ | dcordes: woot! |
| 17:31.09 | martin__ | okay, I gotta run but back later & will look into it all. |
| 17:32.21 | marajin | I return |
| 17:32.27 | dcordes | martin__: okk |
| 17:32.29 | dcordes | cya |
| 17:34.27 | *** join/#htc-linux bastiaan (n=chatzill@7.177-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 17:34.32 | ginge_ | how do I do the tracing of registers. Got any links pls? |
| 17:36.51 | Sliss | any updates to the htc blueangel lately? |
| 18:01.39 | *** part/#htc-linux okias (i=ejabberd@poseidon.kraja.cz) |
| 18:05.12 | *** join/#htc-linux pH5 (n=ph5@e178212072.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:08.58 | *** join/#htc-linux SmallR2883 (n=SmallR20@adsl-68-75-181-215.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 18:16.44 | *** join/#htc-linux GPFerror (n=gpferror@cpe-76-187-41-132.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 18:49.34 | *** join/#htc-linux Sliss_ (n=chatzill@29.21-247-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:59.29 | *** join/#htc-linux marex (n=marex@85-132-216-250-eth3-gwfm10-user.802.cz) |
| 19:27.18 | *** join/#htc-linux diogene31 (n=rj@mur31-2-82-243-122-54.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:36.12 | *** join/#htc-linux hagisbasheruk (n=hagisbas@78.148.135.168) |
| 20:11.26 | *** join/#htc-linux who_ (i=who@194.145.250.184) |
| 20:23.51 | ginge_ | hmm. UART1 is device 253 so creating the device node and running a cat triggers all the printks I put in, and it sets the port up correctly... whatever it is connected to |
| 20:24.17 | ginge_ | UART2 even |
| 20:27.45 | *** join/#htc-linux hagisbasheruk (n=hagisbas@78.148.135.168) |
| 20:33.00 | no2chem | hello, anyone here now? =) |
| 20:33.08 | marajin | sssh, they're sleeping! |
| 20:33.12 | no2chem | meh! |
| 20:33.41 | no2chem | just wondering though.. is there some repo with any code you are writing?... |
| 20:34.39 | marajin | all different ones depending on the device and what people are trying todo |
| 20:35.10 | no2chem | ah -> i just had some questions about wifi on the titan |
| 20:35.19 | no2chem | mainly, the wifi switch |
| 20:35.20 | no2chem | heh |
| 20:35.31 | hagisbasheruk | hi no2chem |
| 20:35.37 | no2chem | hello |
| 20:35.40 | marajin | well not my area, I have a Kaiser and a hermes |
| 20:35.49 | no2chem | well a better generic question is.. |
| 20:36.07 | no2chem | is there a way to get haret to dump an unaligned byte? |
| 20:36.47 | no2chem | it always wants to round up/down for me |
| 21:13.25 | *** join/#htc-linux LunohoD_ (n=alex@e180069184.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:20.03 | *** join/#htc-linux AstainHellbring (n=Administ@unaffiliated/astainhellbring) |
| 21:24.04 | Xmoo`shower | 'nick Xmoo |
| 21:30.06 | Xmoo | marajin |
| 21:30.11 | Xmoo | what you've been up to :P |
| 21:32.34 | *** join/#htc-linux hagisbasheruk (n=hagisbas@78.148.135.168) |
| 21:32.48 | marajin | Xmoo: I never done nothin'! |
| 21:32.52 | marajin | looks innocent. |
| 21:39.12 | Xmoo | :P |
| 21:39.30 | Xmoo | aight, i'ma go to sleep. Havn't played with my phone whole day :( |
| 21:40.54 | hagisbasheruk | just installed linwizard on my wizard :) |
| 22:14.42 | *** join/#htc-linux aLeSD (n=alex@252.Red-79-144-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:29.29 | *** join/#htc-linux hagisbasheruk_ (n=hagisbas@78.148.135.168) |
| 23:03.47 | *** join/#htc-linux skodde (n=skodde@unaffiliated/skodde) |
| 23:04.17 | ginge_ | does anyone know any at commands to confirm my suspicion that I am probing a sim card interface? |
| 23:04.50 | *** join/#htc-linux hagisbasheruk (n=hagisbas@78.148.135.168) |
| 23:05.06 | *** join/#htc-linux Othello (i=Magorium@gateway/tor/x-938c282514480656) |
| 23:06.10 | *** join/#htc-linux AstainZZZZZZ (n=Administ@unaffiliated/astainhellbring) |
| 23:19.11 | ginge_ | booyah got a mmutrace on UART1 in haret |
| 23:43.21 | *** join/#htc-linux pigeon (n=pigeon@60-241-137-179.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 23:43.56 | *** join/#htc-linux AstainHellbring (n=Administ@unaffiliated/astainhellbring) |
| 23:48.49 | *** join/#htc-linux swc|666 (n=swc|666@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 23:53.13 | *** part/#htc-linux swc|666 (n=swc|666@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 23:55.25 | no2chem | meh, still no one here eh |
| 23:55.58 | AstainHellbring | lots here |
| 23:57.33 | hagisbasheruk | us |