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| 08:43.13 | alex[slx] | Hi guys. I've got OpenMoko on my O2 Xda II mini (aka magician) and I've run into a problem. When I shut down the device (not locking, shutting down) it seems to hang. Then I do a soft reset (stylus in the hole) and I can't turn it on again without a hard reset. |
| 08:43.29 | alex[slx] | Am I missing something, or is this common behaviour? |
| 08:46.49 | cr2 | alex[slx]: it's normal |
| 09:00.14 | alex[slx] | cr2, Ok. I guess I just won't shut it down then. |
| 09:01.47 | alex[slx] | cr2, Also, do you know if that happen on the Neos (the OpenMoko supported hardware)? |
| 09:02.09 | Marex | cr2, hi, long time no blackmailing ; |
| 09:02.11 | Marex | ;) |
| 09:23.22 | alex[slx] | Hmmm... seems that `date` kills it too. |
| 09:23.41 | alex[slx] | No, just locks it. |
| 10:01.05 | kiozen | cr2: you know this one? http://www.maptk.dnsalias.com/ |
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| 10:12.11 | cr2 | kiozen: yes. it'll be interesting if he will publish the source, of will support routing. |
| 10:12.19 | cr2 | s/of /or / |
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| 11:24.58 | pikapika | :) |
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| 13:27.49 | Marex-karlin | cr2: hi ;) |
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| 13:28.26 | Marex-karlin | cr2: Im just looking at that new lcd driver for N560 ... you stole it from Uni, didnt you ? |
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| 13:41.38 | dcordes | hola |
| 13:41.46 | AstainZZZZZZ | hola |
| 13:42.08 | Marex-karlin | dcordes: hi, long time no see |
| 13:44.44 | dcordes | hi marcin, how you been? Finished all exams? |
| 13:46.53 | Marex-karlin | dcordes: not yet ... one more to go |
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| 14:26.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | good evening everyone. could anyone please help me a bit with some hardware in linux? i have pca9535 connected to i2c pins of the pxa. i want to know of any way to monitor changes in its registers. for example, how can i see which bits change during key presses? |
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| 19:41.16 | miknix | cr2, ping |
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| 20:21.54 | cr2 | hi miknix |
| 20:25.09 | miknix | hey cr2 |
| 20:26.07 | miknix | cr2, a guy with kernel hacking experience just pinged linwizard |
| 20:26.24 | miknix | he is looking for a good device to work on |
| 20:27.01 | cr2 | good is subjective |
| 20:27.24 | miknix | he is considering to buy the HTC S710 which is known to boot the linwizard kernel |
| 20:27.47 | miknix | cr2, "good" as "well supported" |
| 20:28.03 | miknix | balajirrao, still around= |
| 20:28.05 | miknix | ? |
| 20:28.51 | balajirrao | miknix: yep! |
| 20:29.26 | balajirrao | so thumbs up to HTC S710 ? |
| 20:30.02 | miknix | balajirrao, cr2 is who knows better about HTCs |
| 20:31.03 | cr2 | balajirrao: it's more about the optical look, functions and ... the main cpu. |
| 20:31.45 | balajirrao | cr2: ok.. which one would you recomment if I need to hack around with linwizard ? |
| 20:32.19 | miknix | balajirrao, no need of linwizard.. we all want linux on HTCs here |
| 20:32.51 | balajirrao | miknix: ok! :) |
| 20:32.54 | cr2 | imho, the best (and probably the most expensive) omap850 phone is artemis |
| 20:33.07 | balajirrao | cr2: ok. will look at it |
| 20:33.19 | cr2 | but the phone is a bit pita on omap850 devices. |
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| 20:33.49 | cr2 | there are a lot of factors you'd take into account actually. |
| 20:33.55 | miknix | cr2, does artemis use the same driver as wizard for the phone? |
| 20:34.03 | balajirrao | cr2: ok. omap850 devices as in ? |
| 20:35.15 | cr2 | balajirrao: the main difference between the phones is the cpu. |
| 20:35.41 | balajirrao | cr2: oh.. ok.. |
| 20:39.31 | balajirrao | cr2: considering all the factors, would you recommend a S710 ? |
| 20:42.18 | miknix | balajirrao, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Vox |
| 20:45.18 | cr2 | balajirrao: i have 6 htc phones, and noone works 100% |
| 20:45.18 | balajirrao | miknix: cool. thank you for the link |
| 20:45.40 | balajirrao | cr2: ooh! ok. |
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| 21:48.14 | SmallR2882 | can i be off topic as i know there are a lot of very knowledgeable people here? |
| 21:48.31 | SmallR2882 | would an LTE network support an older GSM phone? |
| 21:48.51 | SmallR2882 | 2G/3G |
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| 21:54.07 | cr2 | SmallR2002: what is LTE network ? |
| 21:56.03 | cr2 | ok, found it. |
| 21:56.43 | cr2 | Co-existence with legacy standards (users can transparently start a call or transfer of data in an area using an LTE standard, and, should coverage be unavailable, continue the operation without any action on their part using GSM/GPRS or W-CDMA-based UMTS or even 3GPP2 networks such as CDMA or EV-DO) |
| 22:06.50 | ginge | Anyone here know about hacking Android kernel on the Kaiser? |
| 22:09.08 | ginge | Basically I need to get to a console prompt from Android so I can read the touchscreen calibration info off |
| 22:10.36 | SmallR2882 | cr2, so that would be a yes? |
| 22:10.39 | SmallR2882 | see |
| 22:10.50 | SmallR2882 | i'm used to a europian phone service |
| 22:11.18 | SmallR2882 | the whole cdma/gsm thing never came up before |
| 22:11.25 | SmallR2882 | now i'm in the states it's a big issue |
| 22:12.39 | ginge | is an on screen keyboard on the Kaiser anything of value to anyone? |
| 22:12.52 | ginge | (on Android) |
| 22:12.53 | martin__ | Um, we have a real one? |
| 22:13.28 | martin__ | ginge: I'm working on the kernel for kaiser. |
| 22:13.36 | ginge | true, but I have some buttons on it mapped to debugging tools at the moment. Could be handy |
| 22:13.58 | ginge | hey, maybe its you keyboard I just patched it :) |
| 22:14.07 | ginge | you do the vogue too? |
| 22:14.13 | martin__ | No, different Martin :) |
| 22:14.21 | ginge | heh |
| 22:14.22 | martin__ | Martin Johnson is dzo on here. |
| 22:15.21 | ginge | ah, pretty new to this scene. I just spent a few hours getting the build tools together, and working out why the shift functions don't work in the (real) keyboard driver. Do you have any handles on that? |
| 22:15.49 | martin__ | I've not looked at the keyboard stuff |
| 22:15.55 | martin__ | It was working before I got involved. |
| 22:16.10 | martin__ | I'm trying to get write access to the shared memory devices working. |
| 22:16.22 | ginge | maybe I'm missing something obvious. Oh? for the data access? |
| 22:17.19 | martin__ | The modem, primarily. |
| 22:18.06 | ginge | yeah, so is there a way of dropping to the console from Android? |
| 22:18.06 | martin__ | We can read from the modem, and the GPS, but can't currently write properly. |
| 22:18.57 | martin__ | ginge: I dunno about the android image, I'm just using a minimal console initrd. |
| 22:19.04 | martin__ | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser/angstrom-consle-image.cpio.gz |
| 22:19.15 | SmallR2882 | martin__, could you update the information on linux-gps.org about it's gps? |
| 22:19.46 | ginge | Cheers, I was going to roll my own but you saved me the trouble |
| 22:20.50 | ginge | Does serial console access or ssh over tcp work? |
| 22:21.36 | SmallR2882 | i've been trying to get linux-gps.org to be a database of gps devices and their support |
| 22:21.42 | SmallR2882 | unfortunately i don't have much time |
| 22:21.49 | SmallR2882 | or many gps devices :p |
| 22:22.23 | martin__ | SmallR2882: It's not really "working" on kaiser yet. If it's turned on in wince then we can read the stream in linux after boot, but that's some experimental code that's not even in a git repo yet. |
| 22:22.53 | martin__ | ginge: No. We've got no comms at all. |
| 22:23.21 | SmallR2882 | i don't think there's any info on there at all yet mate |
| 22:23.30 | SmallR2882 | i could use any support at all with that project |
| 22:24.03 | martin__ | SmallR2882: http://void.printf.net/~martin/kaiser-smd.c |
| 22:24.06 | martin__ | that's all there is |
| 22:24.10 | cr2 | SmallR2882: builtin sirf3 usually works ok. |
| 22:24.58 | martin__ | and it's of zero use to anyone until a lot more of the kaiser works |
| 22:27.47 | martin__ | ginge: if you want a project, I can get you started on debugging the bluetooth |
| 22:28.15 | martin__ | that may be the easiest way of getting some remote access to the device |
| 22:28.28 | ginge | martin__: sounds good. Now I have the screen calibrated I need something to get my teeth into |
| 22:29.05 | martin__ | ginge: okay, are you all set up with a toolchain and the git repository? |
| 22:29.31 | ginge | martin__: yes, both vanilla android and htc-msm |
| 22:29.53 | martin__ | okay, you want the htc-msm branch for this. |
| 22:30.14 | martin__ | You're looking at drivers/serial/msm_serial.c |
| 22:30.18 | SmallR2882 | cr2, ok, if you have a chance it'd be good if you could add a list of 'should work' ones |
| 22:31.18 | ginge | okay, I see it |
| 22:31.29 | cr2 | SmallR2882: n560 works, and artemis works. athena should work too. after i'll add the power gpios ;) |
| 22:31.43 | martin__ | ginge: msm_serial is a driver for the on-chip UARTs of the MSM7500A, and it works on the Halibut dev boards that the android developers use. |
| 22:32.02 | martin__ | The Kaiser is an MSM7200 so there will be some differences. |
| 22:32.20 | martin__ | The bluetooth on the Kaiser is connected to UART1. |
| 22:33.06 | martin__ | If we can get the UART working, I think I can get the bluetooth chip going. |
| 22:33.18 | martin__ | Currently, the serial code hangs at init. |
| 22:33.56 | ginge | martin__: Ok. I iwll look it over. |
| 22:35.08 | martin__ | ginge: At the moment, this driver is built in with the kaiser defconfig. |
| 22:35.46 | martin__ | But in arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htckaiser.c, the device is commented out from the list of platform devices. |
| 22:36.20 | martin__ | (line 284) |
| 22:36.42 | martin__ | Uncomment that, and your kernel will hang on boot. |
| 22:37.01 | martin__ | If you boot with the initcall_debug option, you'll see that the hang comes at the msm_serial_init call. |
| 22:37.11 | martin__ | Now, here's the wacky thing: |
| 22:37.44 | martin__ | If you put a printk at the start of msm_serial_init, you will see the first one or two characters of it on the screen before the hang. |
| 22:38.37 | martin__ | This doesn't mean the printk is hanging half way through. It means the code's getting further than that, but locking up the whole system before the framebuffer has got round to drawing the text that's already been printk'd. |
| 22:39.20 | martin__ | So what you really need is a function that prints something and then runs a delay loop for a while to give it time to get to the screen. |
| 22:39.56 | martin__ | Then, armed with this function, sprinkle the code with debug until you find out exactly what line causes the hang. |
| 22:40.27 | martin__ | Once we know that, we'll have a better clue what we need to change. |
| 22:40.49 | martin__ | ginge: good luck! /msg me if you need to know anything else. |
| 22:40.57 | ginge | martin__: Ok. Thanks! |
| 22:42.51 | martin__ | ginge: the other person on here working on the kaiser is dcordes |
| 22:43.23 | martin__ | I threw this one at him too, he might have got somewhere, so have a chat with him if you see him around. |
| 22:44.28 | ginge | ok sounds good. Reminds me of the old days porting Linux to my jornada 928. I seem to remember saying never ever ever again ;) |
| 22:44.52 | martin__ | :) |
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| 22:50.06 | SmallR2882 | anyone want to advise me on a carrier in the states? |
| 22:50.29 | SmallR2882 | at&t are currently raping my wallet as i bought a cheap go phone |
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