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| 12:34.54 | dcordes_ | Is there a way to boot a filesystem as ramdisk which is not gzipped? I think there are problems extracting the beasts on kaiser. |
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| 12:47.18 | martin__ | dcordes_: have you tried just using the ungzipped version? |
| 12:48.13 | dcordes_ | martin__: no |
| 12:48.34 | dcordes_ | should this work? |
| 12:49.15 | martin__ | it might |
| 12:49.29 | martin__ | i'm pretty sure you used to be able to use an uncompressed initrd |
| 12:49.34 | martin__ | in ancient kernels |
| 12:49.52 | martin__ | and i don't remember ever having to pass an argument telling it what the format was |
| 12:49.57 | martin__ | so it may just look for magic numbers |
| 12:50.03 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 12:50.08 | dcordes_ | trying |
| 12:50.16 | dcordes_ | did you look into the AT any further? |
| 12:51.07 | martin__ | i poked at it a bit |
| 12:51.19 | martin__ | hopefully will have some more time for it at the weekend |
| 12:51.38 | dcordes_ | k |
| 12:51.43 | martin__ | you wanna swap, and you have a go at the serial stuff? |
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| 12:53.25 | dcordes_ | of course if you give me a clue on where to start.. btw just poke or email whenever you need to try and boot something |
| 12:53.38 | dcordes_ | with the console image it works pretty reliable one my phone/rom |
| 12:54.05 | martin__ | It works reliably for me when I first reset, and then start it over haretconsole. |
| 12:54.23 | martin__ | for some reason hitting the run button on the device seems flaky |
| 12:54.39 | martin__ | maybe something about touchscreen activity confusing it |
| 12:54.47 | martin__ | although it seemed the same using the keyboard |
| 12:54.55 | martin__ | so perhaps having the net activity helps somehow |
| 12:54.57 | martin__ | who knows |
| 12:55.05 | martin__ | or i'm just imagining it |
| 12:55.29 | martin__ | dcordes_: emailing you my current serial work. |
| 12:56.33 | dcordes_ | ok thanks |
| 12:56.58 | dcordes_ | maybe booting the filesystem from sd will work better |
| 12:57.12 | dcordes_ | we should probably consider attacking sdcc |
| 12:57.57 | dcordes_ | AstainZZZZZZ: can you help me flashing a rom to kaiser? |
| 13:14.45 | martin__ | dcordes_: sent |
| 13:17.56 | dcordes_ | ok will try that |
| 13:18.14 | dcordes_ | with the delay. did you diff against current head? |
| 13:24.10 | martin__ | no, i took that diff before i repulled. |
| 13:24.18 | martin__ | i'd screwed up my repo somehow |
| 13:24.43 | martin__ | most of that patch should be totally irrelevant anyway |
| 13:25.13 | martin__ | just uncomment the msm_serial0_device line in board-htckaiser.c |
| 13:25.21 | martin__ | add the printks to msm_serial.c |
| 13:25.34 | martin__ | and boot with debug_initcalls |
| 13:25.42 | martin__ | should have the same effect |
| 13:26.46 | martin__ | but since it seems like it's a timing thing i thought i'd better give you the lot |
| 13:30.14 | dcordes_ | yea |
| 13:30.42 | dcordes_ | did you consider it being a problem with registers not set correctly for the UART? |
| 13:31.16 | martin__ | could well be |
| 13:31.39 | martin__ | seemed like the best step was to work out where it actually hung though |
| 13:32.20 | dcordes_ | maybe it won't hang at all if we try and set the correct registers. Do you know where to set them? |
| 13:32.44 | martin__ | well in theory the msm_serial code should take care of all that |
| 13:39.52 | martin__ | dcordes_: I guess this comes down to a MSM7200/MSM7200A difference |
| 13:40.14 | martin__ | since this is all internal to the chip, and the code works on the halibut. |
| 13:40.43 | dcordes_ | martin__: yea that's why I say let's change some regs |
| 13:40.57 | dcordes_ | I will compare memory map with the serial code |
| 13:48.45 | martin__ | my concern is that the actual settings in the registers may be different |
| 13:48.52 | martin__ | rather than the registers just being moved |
| 13:49.13 | martin__ | if so, we have some nasty rev eng ahead |
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| 14:04.02 | dcordes_ | martin__: what do you mean, settings? |
| 14:06.12 | dcordes_ | martin__: comes to mind that msm_serial should work just perfectly: It is used by the smd-kaiser.c code afaik and since we have at send working it should be ok |
| 14:06.31 | dcordes_ | maybe that's not the case and send doesn't work because of problems with the serial code |
| 14:07.23 | dcordes_ | I hope marbalon will be able to help with smd. He will probably join in the fun on monday |
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| 14:37.49 | AstainZZZZZZ | dcordes: you still need help flashing rom? |
| 14:45.16 | martin__ | dcordes_: I meant if there were register bits used to control the uart |
| 14:45.57 | martin__ | hmm. would be neat if we fixed the smd and serial stuff with one change. |
| 14:47.16 | martin__ | dcordes_: the stuff in msm_serial.h is known good for MSM7200A but we don't know if it's right for MSM7200. |
| 14:57.12 | AstainHellbring | dcordes_: you still need help flashing rom? |
| 14:59.21 | AstainHellbring | martin__ reading my logs and curious what is sdcc? |
| 15:02.11 | AstainHellbring | brb |
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| 15:25.13 | dcordes_ | AstainHellbring: sd card controller and yes I could use some help |
| 15:26.00 | dcordes_ | I want one of the roms where linux boots all the time and would like to know if I will be able to hardreset to factory after flashing it |
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| 15:37.42 | AstainHellbring | you would have to reflash to factory to be able to go back to factory |
| 15:39.56 | AstainHellbring | I'm running the leaked att rom and if I do a fresh reset and then start haret it seems to run every time |
| 15:45.49 | dcordes_ | AstainHellbring: leaked att? |
| 15:46.15 | dcordes_ | obviously all roms are suitable for booting ramdisks with haret except of mine |
| 15:46.18 | dcordes_ | :D |
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| 15:46.44 | AstainHellbring | I'll link you |
| 15:50.32 | AstainHellbring | also have you hard spl'd? |
| 15:52.15 | dcordes_ | AstainHellbring: what's that? |
| 15:52.30 | dcordes_ | what I do not want is void guarantee |
| 15:53.31 | AstainHellbring | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583 |
| 15:53.50 | AstainHellbring | you can revert back to original stuff rather easily so no need to worry |
| 15:54.56 | AstainHellbring | hard spl allows you to flash roms other than your carrier rom |
| 15:55.03 | dcordes_ | I see |
| 15:56.42 | dcordes_ | AstainHellbring: what does he mean by sync? YOUR DEVICE MUST BE IN CE AND SYNCED BEFORE RUNNING EACH STEP. |
| 15:57.16 | AstainHellbring | active sync connected full |
| 15:57.18 | AstainHellbring | fully |
| 15:57.33 | AstainHellbring | also you may want to remove sim and sd card as it seems to work better when this is done |
| 15:58.14 | dcordes_ | are you sure this is necessary? |
| 15:58.24 | dcordes_ | the active sync connection? |
| 15:58.38 | dcordes_ | isn't the executable for the phone? |
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| 15:59.01 | AstainHellbring | he's just saying that for those that don't know how to run things very well exe runs on computer and sends stuff to phone |
| 15:59.17 | dcordes_ | ahh I see |
| 15:59.34 | dcordes_ | so I'd need to setup active sync on some windows box |
| 15:59.43 | dcordes_ | is there a way to do it on the phone AstainHellbring ? |
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| 16:09.25 | AstainHellbring | not that I know of unfortunately |
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| 16:13.46 | dcordes_ | hm I think I will stick with voda .de stock rom for now. |
| 16:15.23 | dcordes_ | cr2_: do you know what's needed to get sd? |
| 16:22.17 | dcordes_ | cr2_: is this gpio variable stuff still relevant? |
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| 18:28.59 | pikapika | hi |
| 18:30.04 | paulproteus | Hello pikapika. |
| 18:49.47 | pikapika | hi paulproteus |
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| 20:10.43 | cr2_ | hi kiozen |
| 20:11.03 | kiozen | hi cr2_, silent today.. eh? |
| 20:11.31 | cr2_ | silent for some time already |
| 20:12.11 | cr2_ | a lot of stress at work, and it seems i'll look for a new job in the late autumn. |
| 20:12.17 | kiozen | everyone seems busy :) |
| 20:12.37 | cr2_ | yeah. |
| 20:12.49 | kiozen | uh, sattelite program is over? |
| 20:13.17 | cr2_ | it's over for a long time. |
| 20:13.33 | cr2_ | and the new one is too uncertain for me. |
| 20:14.11 | kiozen | you can hack mars missions, they have some problems over there |
| 20:14.19 | cr2_ | so it's probably should not be in my scope of interests. |
| 20:14.53 | kiozen | you fear they use wince ? ;) |
| 20:15.04 | cr2_ | hehe. it's all ESA |
| 20:15.26 | cr2_ | and the usual EU bullshit policy & so on. |
| 20:16.43 | cr2_ | you may fail just because there are too little women from new member states in the project. such stories ;-) |
| 20:16.47 | kiozen | maybe Gallileo needs some support, too, but that is also very uncertain |
| 20:18.01 | cr2_ | non-hardware galileo things are done at gfz Potsdam |
| 20:18.29 | cr2_ | and the hardware side is the usual industry support program. |
| 20:19.07 | kiozen | Potsdam is a nice place :) |
| 20:19.28 | cr2_ | yes, but everybody whom i know there lives in Berlin |
| 20:19.47 | cr2_ | because it's too expensive to live in Potsdam. |
| 20:20.11 | kiozen | former collegue of my wife lifes there |
| 20:20.56 | kiozen | but she is in the biochemistry business |
| 20:21.43 | cr2_ | biochemistry is â¬â¬â¬ |
| 20:21.57 | kiozen | lol, no not at all |
| 20:22.20 | cr2_ | and for the others the financial situation in the eastern germany looks not so rosy. |
| 20:22.41 | cr2_ | ok, it depends on the field. |
| 20:22.47 | kiozen | it's much money burned, than the people get paid |
| 20:23.22 | kiozen | you have to work for ages until you can make some profit |
| 20:23.29 | cr2_ | i can even compare how the phd students are employed here and there. |
| 20:23.36 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:24.29 | cr2_ | maybe we'd meet sometime and drink a beer :) |
| 20:24.43 | kiozen | in regensburg? :) |
| 20:24.44 | cr2_ | what are you doing at the end of july ? |
| 20:24.57 | cr2_ | yeah, it's a bit tough, but why not. |
| 20:25.03 | kiozen | I work as usual |
| 20:25.11 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:25.36 | kiozen | my wife is for 8 month in munich, so I have to look after our sin 100% |
| 20:25.52 | cr2_ | i see. |
| 20:26.01 | kiozen | thus I ma pretty local the nect month :) |
| 20:26.14 | cr2_ | lol |
| 20:26.59 | kiozen | so, you are in the area in July? |
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| 20:27.08 | kiozen | hi BabelO |
| 20:27.27 | kiozen | busy, too eh? |
| 20:27.39 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 20:28.16 | BabelO | kiozen: lol, we have some software release to do too :) and around 700 bug to close |
| 20:28.32 | kiozen | 700 bugs lol |
| 20:28.46 | kiozen | all your's ? ;) |
| 20:28.50 | cr2_ | LOL |
| 20:29.12 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 20:29.18 | kiozen | and I always feel bad if I have 10 bug reports a month :) |
| 20:29.28 | BabelO | kiozen: noo :) i ve only around 100 for me |
| 20:29.34 | cr2_ | kiozen: no, but i can drive at the weekend. |
| 20:29.42 | BabelO | kiozen: we havearound 15 to 20 per days |
| 20:29.57 | kiozen | uhhh, dooomed :) |
| 20:30.16 | BabelO | kiozen: most are evolution, not bug ....; but evolution wanted |
| 20:30.40 | kiozen | ok, we call them requests :) |
| 20:31.06 | kiozen | you might have noticed in the changelog of GT |
| 20:31.17 | kiozen | I use the same system as at work |
| 20:31.23 | BabelO | our software do too much things and only two people to create it and solve bug + evolution, it is crazy |
| 20:31.33 | cr2_ | BabelO: hi |
| 20:31.43 | kiozen | BabelO: that is normal :) |
| 20:32.32 | cr2_ | kiozen: 524km |
| 20:32.37 | BabelO | kiozen: i ve done some more on GT and recognition :) but don't know if it can be usefull, lol, i can detect symbols on map |
| 20:33.25 | kiozen | cr2_: pheew, that is quite far. Maybe we can met in half, any Linux event around? |
| 20:33.55 | kiozen | BabelO: well symbols would be fine, still have a lot of caves to find |
| 20:34.03 | BabelO | lol |
| 20:34.14 | kiozen | BabelO: but will it work with my colorfull maps? |
| 20:34.25 | BabelO | kiozen: is it interesting for you to get area on map ? |
| 20:34.44 | kiozen | BabelO: ???? area on map? |
| 20:34.55 | BabelO | kiozen: curve level area |
| 20:35.08 | BabelO | elevation line i mean |
| 20:35.25 | cr2_ | kiozen: no idea. but it's a good opportunity to do something else from hacking on the weekend :) |
| 20:35.27 | kiozen | you mean elevation lines from DEM? |
| 20:35.49 | kiozen | cr2_: that's right, anyway, you are very welcome :) |
| 20:36.19 | cr2_ | kiozen: ok, i'll think about it. |
| 20:36.36 | kiozen | BabelO: or DEM from elevation lines |
| 20:36.51 | BabelO | yes that's way |
| 20:37.10 | cr2_ | i need to hack somthing on my car first, since the weather is better now. |
| 20:37.25 | kiozen | BabelO: hm, would be kind of interesting :) |
| 20:37.36 | kiozen | cr2_: hw or sw? |
| 20:38.38 | cr2_ | kiozen: hw. |
| 20:39.20 | kiozen | cr2_: automotive hw hacking is eveil :) |
| 20:39.42 | cr2_ | yes, when you don't have a garage, it is evil. |
| 20:40.27 | cr2_ | BabelO: how old is your cegcc ? |
| 20:40.47 | cr2_ | i've downloaded the latest svn version, and it does not compile... |
| 20:41.54 | BabelO | cr2_: version 0.51 from december |
| 20:42.09 | cr2_ | ok, so it's not that recent. |
| 20:42.36 | BabelO | no :) i keep a working version |
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| 21:00.17 | BabelO | cr2_: do you found more on your GPS ? medion ? |
| 21:08.25 | cr2_ | BabelO: no. i need a modified version of testwm5 for it |
| 21:08.46 | BabelO | cr2_: ok |
| 21:09.25 | cr2_ | the linux code does not included the SD driver as usual |
| 21:09.50 | cr2_ | and the AC97 codec base address. for some reason. |
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| 21:23.31 | cr2_ | hi lamikr_ |
| 21:28.48 | lamikr_ | cr2_ Hi! |
| 21:30.52 | cr2_ | how are you doing ? you must have white hacking nights now :) |
| 21:33.53 | lamikr_ | cr2_ I am doing just fine, today was a nice weather, really summer feeling. I am trying to catch now what has happened and also trying to split all h63xx kernel work to smaller patches to be able to handle the upgrade from 2.6.16 to 2.6.26 :-) |
| 21:34.49 | cr2_ | ok. so your h63xx is still alive |
| 21:35.01 | cr2_ | btw, have you solved the resume problem ? |
| 21:37.18 | lamikr_ | Yes, suspend/resume works just fine. It was one register that I needed to setup to be able to order irq wakeup for gsm serial port to be able to wakeup & resume. |
| 21:38.51 | cr2_ | nice. |
| 21:40.23 | lamikr_ | How about you? |
| 21:42.15 | cr2_ | thanks, i'm ok too. still working, and thinking about the vacation :) |
| 21:45.40 | lamikr_ | cr2 With working do you mean university or phones? |
| 21:47.48 | cr2_ | both. |
| 21:48.08 | cr2_ | but mainly university. |
| 21:48.43 | lamikr_ | Do you work now with some study/paper or more with teaching? |
| 21:50.22 | cr2_ | both, but i'm thinking about doing something else. |
| 21:50.52 | lamikr_ | going away from university? |
| 21:51.18 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 21:52.35 | lamikr_ | Would you be interested in from embedded software or hardware development? |
| 21:54.14 | cr2_ | i'm not qualified to do hw development, so it'd be software. |
| 21:56.05 | lamikr_ | I am dreaming of being so rich that I could just study something interesting (in university) without need for it being anykind of usefull. Like some mathematic puzzle :-) |
| 21:56.34 | lamikr_ | So just opposite of you :-) |
| 21:56.52 | cr2_ | lol |
| 21:57.17 | cr2_ | everybody wants sometime to do something else from what he was doing before. |
| 21:58.12 | cr2_ | and you don't need the university to solve mathematical puzzles :) |
| 22:01.13 | cr2_ | i'm being moved into doing some software development anyway. |
| 22:01.29 | lamikr_ | Yes, I worked couple of year in university and then I thought that I want to get to some company to really to learn & see how to do REAL work instead of just studying something boring. Now I have noticed that it would be nice to do opposite to be able to read again some smart things and try to think further than deadline in couple of weeks. |
| 22:01.59 | cr2_ | and doing it at the university is not a very smart thing. |
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| 22:02.29 | cr2_ | hehe. then i've got it double-bad. |
| 22:02.41 | lamikr_ | :-) |
| 22:03.01 | cr2_ | having 1 week deadlines for some stupid things |
| 22:03.19 | cr2_ | set by not very competent people above ;) |
| 22:04.03 | cr2_ | so i'm slowly getting fed up. |
| 22:05.00 | cr2_ | teaching is a different thing, but you need a permanent position do do it properly anyway. |
| 22:06.54 | lamikr_ | Yes, I think teaching is nice. I have not done that at university, but had once change to have 1 month "programming course" for new workers in my previous company and it was interesting. |
| 22:08.42 | cr2_ | hm. only if the students are motivated and interested to do things. otherwise it gets ugly too. |
| 22:10.26 | cr2_ | but it's usually the case for complex courses. |
| 22:10.43 | cr2_ | because of the natural selection :) |
| 22:10.47 | lamikr_ | yes, thats true. But while teaching I really learned myself also just how many different kind of people there are... Needed to pay attention to very different things than normally. |
| 22:11.37 | cr2_ | yes, and usually you are understanding the things much better too :-) |
| 22:12.54 | lamikr_ | I have myself wanted to start doing some new user space things with my ipaq and XdaII also... I played some weeks ago with the "sugar user interface" of one laptop per child project by using emulator as I wanted to see could that be nice with mobile phone... |
| 22:13.14 | cr2_ | interesting |
| 22:14.46 | cr2_ | lol. my track is still the only one around heinävesi in osm. |
| 22:14.55 | lamikr_ | Some ideas in it, like mesh network, concept of creating trusted groups, network, etc. are interesting. Also the UI concept is kind of though differently. |
| 22:16.28 | cr2_ | never seen it in action |
| 22:20.42 | lamikr_ | It was pretty easy to build. |
| 22:21.14 | lamikr_ | Have you been able to use gps over bluetooth with linux HTC? |
| 22:21.44 | lamikr_ | I have thinked whether I should by this one, it cost about 50 euro in here. http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=7722 |
| 22:25.09 | cr2_ | mtk should be ok. |
| 22:30.39 | lamikr_ | Hmm, this one would be even cheaper, seems to have different chip. (Talks about 20 channel, while mtk had 32) Sigmatel Slim GPS . http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=3202 |
| 22:31.06 | lamikr_ | cr2_ Are you going via finland in this summer? |
| 22:36.25 | cr2_ | you have finished the house renovation ? |
| 22:36.57 | cr2_ | sirf3 is ok too. but it eats more current than mtk. |
| 22:37.18 | cr2_ | otherwise it's one of the most widespread gps chipsets. |
| 22:48.26 | lamikr_ | So you think mtk is better? Both are using bluetooth (propably l2cap serial port), is it easy to communicate with both of them? (Is standard for sending and receiving gps data over bt open) |
| 22:50.04 | cr2_ | yes, it's the standard serial bt profile |
| 22:50.19 | cr2_ | i don't know about the mtk internals |
| 22:50.39 | cr2_ | but the sirf binary protocol is well known, and is supported by gpsd. |
| 22:50.44 | cr2_ | the nmea works anyway. |
| 22:56.09 | lamikr_ | ok, need to think whether to pay 20 euro more for mtk. |
| 23:00.28 | lamikr_ | cr2 Yes, house has been ready about since chrismas, just small things like garden left. |
| 23:00.54 | cr2_ | sirf is more "standard", mtk works longer |
| 23:01.28 | cr2_ | yes, i still rememeber -25C and no snow on the way to Savonlinna |
| 23:01.32 | cr2_ | :) |
| 23:04.06 | cr2_ | what are you doing in august ? |
| 23:08.41 | lamikr_ | Current plan is to have holliday on june and then go back to work on august. But some weekend for example in august would be fine :-) |
| 23:09.36 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.36 | cr2_ | So Mo Di Mi Do Fr Sa |
| 23:09.36 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.37 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.54 | lamikr_ | I am btw. interested in of visiting in germany also in some near future... My wifes brother has lived there about 10 year, so it would be nice to visit there... |
| 23:10.28 | lamikr_ | Hmm, maybe 9..10 of aug would be good? |
| 23:12.32 | cr2_ | ok, i'll think |
| 23:13.10 | lamikr_ | other weekends are also ok, during weeks I often need to be away from home for couple of days. |
| 23:13.33 | cr2_ | send me an e-mail, or sms if you'll be in germany. |
| 23:14.04 | cr2_ | ok, i'd like to do a vacation in august, but it's not yet clear when. |
| 23:14.27 | cr2_ | good night |
| 23:15.51 | lamikr_ | ok, good night, I still try to catch my personal email. |
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| 23:37.06 | lama | Hello |