| 00:01.06 | martin__ | dcordes: and that's with the synce 0.11 debian packages |
| 00:03.57 | martin__ | dcordes: http://void.printf.net/~martin/kaiser-mmu.txt |
| 00:05.07 | dcordes | dzo: here's the kaiser mmu |
| 00:05.10 | dcordes | thanks martin__ |
| 00:05.15 | martin__ | np |
| 00:07.44 | martin__ | dcordes: where did you get to with synce? |
| 00:12.06 | tcccp | Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (none) tty1 |
| 00:12.15 | tcccp | hrhr - debian on a HP iPaq |
| 00:16.31 | martin__ | -> home, food, bed |
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| 01:09.23 | tcccp | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.33 | tcccp | hrhrhr |
| 01:10.57 | lama_ | 126 years has passed and it works, impressive |
| 01:11.22 | tcccp | lama_: HP |
| 01:11.27 | tcccp | *blink* *blink* |
| 01:11.38 | tcccp | But I screwed the console part. |
| 01:11.48 | tcccp | I have normal sized fonts on a 240x240 Display |
| 01:12.28 | tcccp | but basically - I have DebianARM on my iPaq which makes me feel like...having dirty sex |
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| 06:31.04 | Seadog | offtopic, but anybody with hp ipaq hx2000-series+Linux? |
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| 07:23.52 | BabelO_ | hi |
| 07:26.30 | kiozen | hi BabelO_ |
| 07:28.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i ve tried to get the roller key working withM zoom +/- ... but i miss something :) |
| 07:29.09 | kiozen | BabelO_ "miss something" allowa a wide variety of guesses :) |
| 07:29.31 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it is kernel side :) i think it is repeat flag |
| 07:30.04 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok, so you do not get repeated events? |
| 07:31.04 | BabelO_ | kiozen: if i use cat /dev/input/event0 i see each time i move the rolleran event, but in qpe, only first two use are ok |
| 07:32.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: sounds like boucing key prevention |
| 07:32.45 | kiozen | BabelO_: btw kill a few more bugs in GT, svn up |
| 07:32.50 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes :( i hope it is just a flag of input event |
| 07:33.00 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, i do and compile for windows :) |
| 07:33.20 | BabelO_ | kiozen: do you plan to get export working for map upload too ? |
| 07:33.28 | kiozen | BabelO_: I would need just the oposite for the up/down/left/right keys :) |
| 07:34.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes the idea is to transfere maps via usb to the device |
| 07:34.25 | BabelO_ | kiozen: there is gadget FS is you don't know it |
| 07:34.50 | kiozen | BabelO_: cr2 told me once, for maps it would be ok |
| 07:35.19 | kiozen | BabelO_: however waypoints and tracks are stored different on the moble device than in GT |
| 07:35.51 | BabelO_ | kiozen: usefull for a program to emulate a serial driver or anything else :) so you can virtually emulate Garmin gps side :) |
| 07:35.57 | kiozen | BabelO_: thus forcing the user to use the tcp/ip link allows me to do a propper conversion |
| 07:36.43 | kiozen | BabelO_: noooooooooo! I will never emulate Garmins dumb shit primitive protocols |
| 07:36.47 | BabelO_ | kiozen: tcp link is good, but for windows user :( |
| 07:37.35 | kiozen | BabelO_: think we find a way to get it work for win32, and if not who cares ;) |
| 07:38.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: serial protocol emulation would be the best, i ve do to same to create a qtopia application to share modem :) |
| 07:39.47 | kiozen | BabelO_: it won't work, my waypoint definition exceeds the capabilities of that mediocre Garmin stuff |
| 07:40.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: I use unlimited text fields |
| 07:40.46 | kiozen | BabelO_: You can store images with you waypoint |
| 07:41.08 | kiozen | BabelO_: all that stuff won't work with Garmin's protocol |
| 07:41.10 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what is the best gps exchange protocol ? |
| 07:41.24 | kiozen | BabelO_: my private one |
| 07:41.31 | kiozen | :) |
| 07:41.47 | kiozen | BabelO_: honestly, there is none |
| 07:42.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: gpx sucks as hell |
| 07:42.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: everything else is proprietary |
| 07:43.20 | kiozen | that's why GPSBabel exists :) |
| 07:43.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok :( would be fun to have a compatible emulation, for some others software :) |
| 07:43.41 | kiozen | GPSBabel |
| 07:44.21 | kiozen | Or gain world domination, establish the GT protocol as defacto standard |
| 07:45.56 | kiozen | BabelO_: it is kind of messy, but I have decided to make no compromises in GT anymore |
| 07:46.13 | kiozen | BabelO_: I am so pissed by the limitations of Garmin |
| 07:47.15 | kiozen | BabelO_: that is why my protocol is backward compatible and extendable and compact |
| 07:47.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i say that just for M side, cool effect if epople plug device with M powered and see on windows a new device appear Product : QLandkarteM Vendor : xanadux Device Type : GPS |
| 07:48.31 | kiozen | BabelO_: well as all user data is stored as files in one directory, we still can do that. |
| 07:49.37 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes one directory ROOT !! |
| 07:49.40 | BabelO_ | :) |
| 07:50.10 | kiozen | BabelO_: you can setup in M common file befor compilation |
| 07:51.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: you can partition the SD card with ext3 and fat32. Then you can copy the map via sd card writer even in win32 :) |
| 07:51.31 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes, i ve to change that, i ve finished my qusbstorage application |
| 07:52.10 | BabelO_ | kiozen: with qusbstorage, that's too easy :) filesystem usb gadget is for that |
| 07:52.44 | kiozen | BabelO_: don't know what is faster, usb or card adapter (not via usb) |
| 07:53.01 | kiozen | BabelO_: maps tend to be biiiiig :) |
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| 08:29.58 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what's that ? MESSAGE("Searching " ${QL_LIBDIR} " for Garmin plugins") |
| 08:30.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: in GT? |
| 08:30.34 | BabelO_ | kiozen: you are lucky for that C:/Programme here i have C:/Program\ Files |
| 08:30.38 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes |
| 08:31.13 | kiozen | BabelO_: GT can read waypoints and tracks from a garmin device |
| 08:31.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok |
| 08:31.24 | kiozen | BabelO_: however it is not working on win32 |
| 08:31.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: I didn't port the code |
| 08:31.58 | kiozen | BabelO_: the solution from Qlandkarte is not that nice |
| 08:32.19 | kiozen | BabelO_: and I didn't had the nerve to implement that my own |
| 08:32.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: is installer ok now ? |
| 08:32.32 | kiozen | BabelO_: so I just wait until someone does :) |
| 08:32.49 | kiozen | BabelO_: installer works perfectly form my point of view |
| 08:32.58 | kiozen | BabelO_: good work :) |
| 08:33.44 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok compiling gt now |
| 08:34.07 | kiozen | playing the drums slowly :) |
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| 08:37.50 | BabelO_ | kiozen: lol, i ve broken all path on my machine, playng with gt installer ;) |
| 08:38.30 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ola, lot of error :( CLiveLogDB.cpp |
| 08:39.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: same for cdevicegarmin |
| 08:39.30 | kiozen | BabelO_: i'll have a look, booting virtual machine ... |
| 08:41.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: no problems here? |
| 08:41.59 | BabelO_ | kiozen: magic line, heading = std::numeric_limits<float>::quiet_NaN(); 4 error on this one |
| 08:44.13 | kiozen | BabelO_: I try a recompile... if that does not fail you system is broken |
| 08:44.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i m looking at it don't worry :) |
| 08:44.50 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok found, i do patch :) |
| 09:03.53 | kiozen | BabelO_: pm |
| 09:04.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes i pm you :) |
| 09:04.42 | kiozen | BabelO_: look at your tabs |
| 09:04.56 | BabelO_ | kiozen: broken pidgin |
| 09:05.14 | BabelO_ | wait i restart it |
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| 09:06.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: worked? |
| 09:06.33 | BabelO_ | now yes |
| 09:06.52 | kiozen | pidgins are to eat, not to talk :/ |
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| 11:23.15 | danielkbx | hi BabelO, hi kiozen |
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| 14:31.23 | danielkbx | hi kiozen, I got your mail. |
| 14:31.32 | kiozen | danielkbx: hi |
| 14:31.57 | kiozen | danielkbx: let's see |
| 14:32.21 | danielkbx | First, I will try it at tomorrow or the day after, to much work at the moment. |
| 14:32.35 | danielkbx | Second, there is this textfile, right? |
| 14:32.44 | danielkbx | How is it called? |
| 14:34.14 | kiozen | *.qmap ? |
| 14:43.13 | kiozen | danielkbx: ? |
| 14:43.29 | danielkbx | Yeah, what else :-) |
| 14:43.53 | kiozen | danielkbx: there are 2 files, the qmap and the tif |
| 14:44.24 | danielkbx | Copied. Was to simple for me. |
| 14:44.56 | kiozen | danielkbx: qmap is used to store some variable user data about the map |
| 14:45.32 | danielkbx | And the calibration stuff I guess. |
| 14:45.44 | danielkbx | Strange, that my device is crashing. |
| 14:45.51 | kiozen | danielkbx: no, that is stored in the tif |
| 14:46.02 | kiozen | we are not as bad as oziexplorer |
| 14:46.21 | BabelO_ | danielkbx: what windows version do you have on device ? |
| 14:50.37 | danielkbx | 6.1 |
| 14:52.41 | BabelO_ | danielkbx: ah ah ok i understand why you get problem then :) |
| 14:52.51 | danielkbx | Why? |
| 14:54.39 | BabelO_ | danielkbx: mine is official WM6 with ce5.2 |
| 14:55.16 | danielkbx | Does this affect the linux? |
| 14:56.54 | BabelO_ | danielkbx: yes, because we already see that on universal, on version 6 they activate a watchdog which reboot linux after a while, look same with 6.1 for you. As i understand 6.1 is real 6 not a fake like me |
| 14:57.50 | danielkbx | Okay, that would explain. |
| 14:58.37 | kiozen | danielkbx: easy to test, boot and do nothing |
| 14:58.56 | kiozen | if BabelO is right, it will crash without any reason |
| 14:59.13 | danielkbx | Smartassesâ¦I'll do this :-) |
| 14:59.25 | kiozen | hehe |
| 14:59.55 | kiozen | always a pleasure to help :) |
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| 15:11.02 | BabelO_ | danielkbx: it is not official htc 6.1 or i miss this version ? |
| 15:11.44 | danielkbx | No, not official, its one of the xda-dev ROMs. |
| 15:12.59 | PCrazee | you can download 6.1 roms from the xda-devs forum |
| 15:14.11 | PCrazee | this way i also made it english, which made it easier to install openmoko, as the path to the sd card ist hard coded in the installer |
| 15:15.31 | kiozen | lol, yes that damn sd card path :) |
| 15:16.23 | PCrazee | but now i have those files extra... after all, you just need the tar.gz on the sd card, the rest doesn't matter |
| 15:16.49 | PCrazee | i also managed it once to install it on my universal, while it was still in german... |
| 15:18.18 | PCrazee | it installed the tar.gz to "\Storage Card", that's directly on the device... but this only works a "new" (hard reset) device, where there is still enough space left (about 35mb) |
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| 15:28.56 | BabelO_ | cr2: the HTC Artemis uses a GPS chip GSC3 produced by the SiRF company |
| 15:29.12 | BabelO_ | PCrazee: i don't want non official rom, too much problem with them |
| 15:30.42 | BabelO_ | cr2: all is here even radio, i ve sent email to developper, and starting dump for i2c http://p3300.blogspot.com/ |
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| 16:17.50 | PCrazee | BabelO_: well, i was kinda forced to do it... got my universal from ebay and it was simlocked |
| 16:18.12 | PCrazee | no chance to use the phone (in windows) w/o doing some modification |
| 16:18.25 | PCrazee | waranty was outdated anyway by that time |
| 16:23.13 | BabelO | PCrazee: ok, but i miss some call with bad rom update :) |
| 16:30.13 | lama | http://www.viaopenbook.com/ |
| 16:48.17 | BabelO | lol, hier soir :) |
| 16:48.30 | BabelO | wrong, channel |
| 16:51.15 | BabelO | cr2: around ? :) i need small memory refresh |
| 16:52.19 | majorburn | every few nanoseconds? |
| 16:53.17 | BabelO | majorburn: hmm |
| 17:03.07 | cr2 | yes |
| 17:04.02 | BabelO | cr2: what was value written to bank 0 of cpld? |
| 17:04.38 | cr2 | different ones |
| 17:05.12 | cr2 | 0xaa at the beginning of the SPL loader, 0xbb at the end. and there was some other values written if the load fails. |
| 17:05.53 | BabelO | cr2: ok, i hope it set somethin usefull at end :), i ll try now |
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| 17:07.53 | BabelO | cr2: don't found how to avoid mmc eject :( , new error is that it try to read block outside sdcard, lol |
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| 17:52.13 | pikapika | hi |
| 17:52.32 | tcccp | peek a boo |
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| 18:09.29 | tcccp | hw6915 dead, exit(0); |
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| 18:12.20 | pH5 | BabelO: still no luck :/ http://en.pastebin.ca/1031218 <-- this is what I changed in eol.git, but still after "make && ./mkbootimg /dev/sda boot.img" herald just ignores that card. |
| 18:12.39 | tcccp | ah, my hw6915's display is intact - but works only with linux now %) |
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| 18:14.59 | BabelO | pH5: that's really strange... you cant connect to bootloader with cu ? |
| 18:16.55 | pH5 | BabelO: yes, I can |
| 18:16.57 | pH5 | Cmd> |
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| 18:28.19 | Marex | tcccp, what ? |
| 18:28.27 | Marex | tcccp, how did you kill it ? |
| 18:28.37 | tcccp | I somehow inserted the miniSD wrong. |
| 18:28.52 | tcccp | But the error is - windowslike - gone after the next reboot |
| 18:29.12 | tcccp | I'm actually trying to have a working keymap and small fonts |
| 18:30.10 | Marex | well fine, you can also cleanup the beetles/sable KT |
| 18:30.16 | tcccp | hm? |
| 18:31.00 | Marex | tcccp, you are tinkering with linux on that, arent you ... |
| 18:31.06 | tcccp | absolutely |
| 18:31.08 | Marex | well I suppose you compiled the kernel from scratch |
| 18:31.24 | Marex | if you, you can start cleaning up the sources, happy hacking |
| 18:31.26 | tcccp | But I'm one of the sadomasochistic guys having a complete debian on that miniSD ;) |
| 18:31.39 | Marex | jeez |
| 18:31.57 | Marex | Im happy with 2 meg initramfs compiled in kernel |
| 18:32.05 | Marex | userspace is for .... users |
| 18:32.10 | Marex | :) |
| 18:32.20 | tcccp | i actually wanted to...use it ;) |
| 18:33.13 | Marex | something maybe doesnt work, but I dunno |
| 18:33.32 | Marex | gsm should, there is also demuxer for that (n_erhtc) but that needs some work first |
| 18:33.48 | Marex | it should give you the basic idea on how to do the demuxing though |
| 18:34.59 | tcccp | At the moment a small console font would fit my needs |
| 18:35.05 | tcccp | that and a working keymap %) |
| 18:35.19 | Marex | you can set 4x6 font somewhere in menuconfig |
| 18:35.56 | Marex | and the keymap is a problem ... no idea if the navigation key works, if you need a patch for it, ask cr2, I dont have it in my mailbox right now |
| 18:37.13 | tcccp | I hope the wifi works - makes it possible to working ~comfortably via ssh |
| 18:37.21 | tcccp | wifi or usbnet |
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| 18:42.16 | tcccp | Marex: Interesting, linload-sable works perfectly while haret sucks |
| 18:42.39 | tcccp | Mindnote: do some fsck.ext2 on that image before booting into debian :( |
| 18:44.31 | Marex | haret works perfectly, yea |
| 18:44.50 | Marex | usbnet works, I dont have wifi on beetles |
| 18:44.54 | Marex | ask cr2 |
| 18:44.59 | Marex | cr2, wake up, blackmailer |
| 18:45.02 | Marex | :) |
| 18:45.19 | BabelO | pH5: for me i never seesd img menu, but cid lock message yes and crc message too |
| 18:48.19 | BabelO | pH5: did you try the inux uspl flasher ? |
| 18:48.57 | tcccp | Marex: I have to prepare the Machine the socket is plugged into ;) |
| 18:49.12 | pH5 | BabelO: how to install that if I don't get out of the bootloader :P |
| 18:51.29 | tcccp | Marex: actually I have a todo.sh in /root where I put the stuff in I need to execute if there are numbers or special characters to use |
| 18:51.32 | cr2 | Marex: wm9750 |
| 18:51.43 | BabelO | pH5: how bootloader is not enough with usb connection ? and you cant reuse your htc-tools with part of eol ? |
| 18:52.33 | Marex | tcccp, see ... blackmail daemon started |
| 18:52.43 | Marex | cr2, blackmaild stop ;) |
| 18:52.58 | pH5 | nope, bootloader only allows upload of signed code/images |
| 18:53.31 | pH5 | that's why they load the USPL from wince over activesync (like haret, actually) |
| 18:54.00 | tcccp | narf |
| 18:54.59 | tcccp | I plug in the iPaq via usb, the iPaq says "USB reset" |
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| 18:56.54 | Marex | tcccp, yea ... many times |
| 18:56.54 | Marex | ifconfig usb0 |
| 18:58.59 | tcccp | hrhr |
| 18:59.09 | tcccp | 0-9 is the part NOT working atm |
| 19:00.04 | tcccp | lol |
| 19:00.11 | tcccp | display errors again |
| 19:00.31 | tcccp | must be somehow related to the miniSD containing an - for WinCE - invalid partition table |
| 19:03.34 | Marex | it's broken, fix it and send patch |
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| 20:04.53 | dcordes | lama: that openbook looks nice |
| 20:05.49 | kiozen_ | but via sucks |
| 20:06.06 | dcordes | why? |
| 20:06.25 | kiozen_ | always a lot problems with their chipsets |
| 20:06.27 | kiozen_ | and |
| 20:06.48 | kiozen_ | bought a HUSH pc with their C5 CPU -> total desaster |
| 20:07.32 | kiozen_ | that is the most expensive (1200.-â¬) piece of shit in my hosehold |
| 20:07.35 | dcordes | I had two x86 atx mainboards with via chipsets and had no problems |
| 20:07.53 | kiozen_ | they totally fucked up the dma on theri own CPU/Chipset |
| 20:08.43 | kiozen_ | we have a bout 10 pc running in the office. linux & via chipset is a bad idea |
| 20:09.30 | kiozen_ | sofar the only combination that works in most cases is intel + intel chipset + nvidia graphic |
| 20:09.32 | dcordes | I had a kt6 mainboard and had no problems in linux |
| 20:09.55 | dcordes | kiozen_: how do the problems with the via devices+linux show? |
| 20:10.24 | kiozen_ | well, from dma trouble to overheated chipsets, to totally fucked up hal |
| 20:11.37 | dcordes | hm ok you're the pro :) |
| 20:11.52 | kiozen_ | via is good ideas bad hardware :) |
| 20:12.21 | kiozen_ | the hush pc would be a perfect fanlass media center |
| 20:12.43 | kiozen_ | however without working dma watching a dvd is impossible |
| 20:12.54 | dcordes | ok that's not so good |
| 20:13.15 | dcordes | do you have one of those epia things? |
| 20:13.23 | kiozen_ | and via never really tried to give support for the mpeg graphic accellerators |
| 20:13.33 | kiozen_ | yes it's epia |
| 20:13.49 | kiozen_ | but they pomissed a lot on their mailing list |
| 20:14.40 | kiozen_ | thus I bought a AOpen backbone |
| 20:14.54 | kiozen_ | with Pentum 4 Mobile |
| 20:15.00 | kiozen_ | and intel chip set |
| 20:15.24 | kiozen_ | it's not fanless, but hdd is louder than anything else |
| 20:15.33 | kiozen_ | and it's working like a charm |
| 20:15.39 | dcordes | a barebone? |
| 20:15.48 | kiozen_ | right barebone :) |
| 20:15.55 | dcordes | I also need one silent pc |
| 20:16.26 | kiozen_ | really silent is hard |
| 20:16.28 | dcordes | can't you lower the cpu clock so you can get rid of the fan? |
| 20:16.49 | kiozen_ | makes no sense, use a heat pipe |
| 20:17.06 | lama | via was crap |
| 20:17.19 | lama | but now they are changing business model for more open |
| 20:17.36 | dcordes | important today |
| 20:17.40 | dcordes | and some green IT image :) |
| 20:18.07 | lama | and for example their newest cpu via isaah looks better than intel atom! |
| 20:18.31 | kiozen_ | silent does not mean green :) |
| 20:19.09 | lama | funny thing is that they say it is open arch, and I see "broadcom" name there :P |
| 20:19.29 | dcordes | where? |
| 20:19.29 | cr2 | hi |
| 20:19.35 | dcordes | hi cr2 |
| 20:19.38 | cr2 | kiozen_: news from osm: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2008-May/010446.html |
| 20:20.14 | kiozen_ | cr2: hey that is what I tell to my customer each day :) |
| 20:20.31 | cr2 | LOL |
| 20:20.50 | kiozen_ | dcordes: http://www.ibks.de/index.html?dispFrameUrl=/ger/sstsg01_details.html |
| 20:21.20 | kiozen_ | that's my office pc, note the semi-passive cpu heatsink |
| 20:21.23 | cr2 | kiozen_: then read this one :) http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2008-May/011742.html |
| 20:22.11 | kiozen_ | cr2: I love them :) |
| 20:22.12 | cr2 | kiozen_: the last paragraph |
| 20:22.32 | kiozen_ | yes that's why |
| 20:22.46 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:23.19 | kiozen_ | dcordes: the cpu heatsink is in the powersupply airflow |
| 20:23.30 | kiozen_ | dcordes: thus one fan less |
| 20:23.45 | dcordes | kiozen_: SST-NT06-Lite? |
| 20:23.52 | kiozen_ | wonders: what do we tell your fans? |
| 20:23.59 | kiozen_ | dcordes: yep |
| 20:24.41 | kiozen_ | dcordes: the quad core hardly reaches 60° |
| 20:25.18 | dcordes | looks useful |
| 20:25.26 | dcordes | what's the mainboard? |
| 20:25.50 | dcordes | I wonder if it fits all micro atx |
| 20:26.08 | kiozen_ | dcordes: |
| 20:26.08 | kiozen_ | Gigabyte G33M-DS2R (Motherbord) |
| 20:26.08 | kiozen_ | Intel Duo 2 Quad 6600 CPU |
| 20:26.45 | kiozen_ | dcordes: yes it will fit |
| 20:27.04 | dcordes | that's an option thanks |
| 20:27.46 | kiozen_ | dcordes: but pay attention to the graphic adapter, only 25cm length allowed |
| 20:28.51 | kiozen_ | dcordes: http://www.barebonecenter.de/ |
| 20:29.46 | dcordes | oh my current graphics card has a huge http://www.hwupgrade.com/articles/print/video/36/giga2_global_s.jpg |
| 20:30.11 | dcordes | ..heatsink |
| 20:31.32 | kiozen_ | dcordes: can it drive 2560x1600 |
| 20:31.55 | dcordes | Supports Dual Dual-link @ high resolution up to dual 2560x1600 |
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| 20:32.13 | dcordes | I have no display which does support such resolution anyway |
| 20:32.53 | dcordes | wsxga+ I have |
| 20:33.04 | lama | it doesn't make sense to buy those new gfx cards |
| 20:33.12 | dcordes | why? |
| 20:33.35 | lama | they eat 170W or more, make noise like jumbojets, and are more expensive than console |
| 20:33.35 | dcordes | I wanna play games :) |
| 20:33.47 | dcordes | mine has no fan |
| 20:34.03 | lama | so you gfx suxs :P |
| 20:34.07 | lama | your |
| 20:34.36 | kiozen_ | well it's fanless that makes it interesting and it supports 2560x1600 |
| 20:34.42 | dcordes | no it's super. enough fresh air inside the box it's in |
| 20:34.56 | dcordes | and cheap |
| 20:35.07 | kiozen_ | dcordes: waht chipset? |
| 20:35.14 | dcordes | http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/VGA/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2515 |
| 20:35.14 | lama | has C2D with nv7100 :P |
| 20:35.32 | lama | and for me it's better to upgrade gfx with ... console :P |
| 20:35.47 | kiozen_ | ahh, nvidia :) |
| 20:36.02 | kiozen_ | dcordes: length? |
| 20:36.05 | dcordes | yes I chose it because of linux. before I had ati chipsets |
| 20:36.42 | cr2 | kiozen_: lol. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/merkaartor/2008-May/000242.html |
| 20:36.51 | dcordes | kiozen_: about 20cm w/o the jacks |
| 20:37.14 | BabelO | cr2: did you read my email about xda forum ? |
| 20:37.25 | kiozen_ | dcordes: ohhhhhhh that sounds good :) does anyone need a used gfx card? |
| 20:37.44 | cr2 | BabelO: no |
| 20:37.44 | lama | it is crazy that computer atached to such card eats less power :P |
| 20:37.52 | BabelO | kiozen_: 8500 gt ? |
| 20:37.55 | dcordes | kiozen_: what device do you have with 2560x1600 resolution? |
| 20:38.30 | dcordes | your working monitor you were talking about? |
| 20:38.45 | kiozen_ | dcordes: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2071695,00.asp |
| 20:39.01 | kiozen_ | BabelO: something like that don't know yet :) |
| 20:39.45 | lama | is it TN or S-PVA | SIPS ? |
| 20:40.18 | dcordes | kiozen_: that is a beast |
| 20:40.27 | dcordes | lama: I will never buy tn again. colours suck |
| 20:40.34 | kiozen_ | dcordes: no, heaven for my eyes |
| 20:41.17 | dcordes | I had a syncmaster 151n with pva for very long time. my current tn panel's colours suck against it |
| 20:42.10 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm wondering why they are so gay about android ? |
| 20:42.23 | kiozen_ | cr2: buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzwords |
| 20:42.33 | kiozen_ | cr2: to be hip you need them |
| 20:42.36 | dcordes | cr2: who? |
| 20:43.26 | cr2 | dcordes: BabelO posts about qtopia., the reply is i've checked it, it works nice, where do i download android ? |
| 20:44.23 | BabelO | cr2: don't know, google trademark maybe :) |
| 20:44.35 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:45.11 | kiozen_ | people love to be ripped off by large brands |
| 20:45.29 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 20:45.49 | dcordes | it brings many testers :p |
| 20:45.59 | kiozen_ | I experience this stupidity each day on the Garmin forums |
| 20:46.30 | kiozen_ | they wlak hand in hand with apple fans :) |
| 20:46.31 | dcordes | somebody says they boot dzo built msm image on lg ks20 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383695&page=50 |
| 20:46.45 | BabelO | cr2: anyway, if the guy use "extract android image" in google he get lot of links :) |
| 20:47.05 | BabelO | apt: what is Android ? |
| 20:47.07 | apt | I think you lost me on that one, BabelO |
| 20:47.24 | BabelO | apt: what is Blueangel ? |
| 20:47.26 | apt | I think you lost me on that one, BabelO |
| 20:47.26 | kiozen_ | lol |
| 20:47.32 | kiozen_ | roooh |
| 20:47.38 | BabelO | ~google androids |
| 20:47.50 | BabelO | ~ping TimRiker |
| 20:47.50 | apt | pong TimRiker |
| 20:48.07 | BabelO | TimRiker: google search still broken ? :) |
| 20:48.32 | cr2 | dcordes: they'd have better posted the haretlog.txt |
| 20:48.36 | TimRiker | google still broken on the bot. need to update to the screen-scraping version as the old one requires a key and google does not hand out keys anymore. |
| 20:48.42 | kiozen_ | apt: what is the answer to live, universe and everything? |
| 20:48.44 | apt | I think you lost me on that one, kiozen_ |
| 20:48.45 | TimRiker | patches welcome |
| 20:49.50 | TimRiker | ~answer to life the universe and everything |
| 20:49.50 | apt | i heard answer to life the universe and everything is 42 |
| 20:50.01 | kiozen_ | ok |
| 20:50.19 | TimRiker | ~6*8 |
| 20:50.19 | apt | 48 |
| 20:50.21 | dcordes | cr2: ah right I was just thinking about what to make him do |
| 20:50.22 | BabelO | TimRiker: i just see that two days ago :) 42 is the H2G2 ? right ? |
| 20:50.30 | TimRiker | nods |
| 20:50.49 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, so what's left on arte ? |
| 20:51.03 | cr2 | g4, sound , phone |
| 20:51.25 | BabelO | cr2: i need to fix sd resume .. and battery for status B |
| 20:51.44 | cr2 | battery. ok. |
| 20:52.11 | BabelO | cr2: many omap based devices seem to use tps65013 |
| 20:52.14 | cr2 | BabelO: who has said that revertive checked the gsm-typhoon and it worked ? |
| 20:52.19 | BabelO | but it is i2c and i did not see it |
| 20:52.29 | BabelO | really ? |
| 20:52.38 | TimRiker | apt: android |
| 20:52.39 | cr2 | ~ping revertive |
| 20:52.40 | apt | pong revertive |
| 20:52.54 | BabelO | apt: Androids ? |
| 20:53.01 | BabelO | :) that s the good word |
| 20:53.31 | BabelO | TimRiker: http://code.google.com/android/documentation.html search engine here would be fine |
| 20:54.24 | TimRiker | apt: android is an Open Handset Alliance Project by Google or an alleged Open Source phone software stack that's really not open. |
| 20:54.25 | apt | TimRiker: okay |
| 20:54.39 | TimRiker | apt: android is also http://code.google.com/android/ |
| 20:54.40 | apt | okay, TimRiker |
| 20:54.51 | BabelO | apt: what is android ? |
| 20:54.53 | apt | BabelO: what are you talking about? |
| 20:55.05 | TimRiker | don't know why the "what is" interface seems broken. |
| 20:55.09 | TimRiker | apt: android? |
| 20:55.10 | apt | somebody said android was an Open Handset Alliance Project by Google or an alleged Open Source phone software stack that's really not open. http://code.google.com/android/ |
| 20:55.14 | TimRiker | apt: what is android? |
| 20:55.16 | apt | I think you lost me on that one, TimRiker |
| 20:55.20 | TimRiker | apt: what's android? |
| 20:55.20 | apt | rumour has it, android is an Open Handset Alliance Project by Google or an alleged Open Source phone software stack that's really not open. http://code.google.com/android/ |
| 20:55.21 | kiozen_ | thinks apt is as my son :) |
| 20:55.24 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 20:56.04 | BabelO | TimRiker: or an alleged Open humm with java inside that's not really correct :) |
| 20:56.20 | TimRiker | humm? |
| 20:56.26 | BabelO | i wait to try it :) to see |
| 20:57.11 | TimRiker | BabelO: the sdk includes and emulator. no need to wait. |
| 20:58.13 | dcordes | ooh the kaiser thread has 145k views. I wonder what it had w/o android in the heading |
| 20:58.41 | BabelO | TimRiker: i ve tried it on arte and bluenagel, but no touchscreen, i want to see final version with source to compile so i can understand what i do |
| 20:59.20 | BabelO | swetland: hi, close to the release ? :) or soon ? |
| 21:01.38 | cr2 | dcordes: lol. instead of viewing, they'd have helped with disassembling the mikrokernel. |
| 21:05.49 | dcordes | hehe I think a big part of those viewers do not know what this is a bout |
| 21:06.29 | dcordes | I mean an understand that goes not further then oh it is the hip google operating system which is 1337 |
| 21:06.55 | cr2 | hehe |
| 21:11.07 | dcordes | I had an approach there on an explanation that it's more than just that |
| 21:14.41 | dcordes | bye |
| 21:19.06 | BabelO | cr2: sound is EAC, but only driver available is just for mixer |
| 21:19.13 | BabelO | no pcm |
| 21:20.14 | BabelO | cr2: and battery driver is strange, i see the code but don't understand why it is related to syren, maybe i have to send email to guy who wrote batterystatus plugin for wince |
| 21:20.55 | BabelO | cr2: i have sent an email to the si470x devel |
| 21:21.57 | cr2 | BabelO: isn't batterystatus on wince just use the same "powermon" api ? |
| 21:22.37 | BabelO | cr2: it get temp, ma and guy say it works on omap, have to check values |
| 21:26.51 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, i think it's the powermon capabilities |
| 21:27.14 | cr2 | i doubt that windows people can do something better :) |
| 21:27.55 | BabelO | :) |
| 21:28.54 | BabelO | cr2: wince http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751 |
| 21:31.28 | cr2 | BabelO: i usually disassemble such programs :) |
| 21:31.50 | cr2 | BabelO: like i've done for IR,BT & such control in haret. |
| 21:32.41 | BabelO | cr2: for this one i think you need "reflector" |
| 21:32.56 | BabelO | i ve tried to use powermon 60 on telnet 9998 |
| 21:33.03 | BabelO | and mmutrace some adress, but nothing |
| 21:33.22 | BabelO | only thing i see is interrupt 4 at same interval |
| 21:33.28 | BabelO | irg 4 is ICR |
| 21:33.29 | cr2 | BabelO: i doubt that this program goes a different way from powermon |
| 21:34.11 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, if you have the binary, you can check it with objdump -p |
| 21:35.06 | cr2 | this plugin is in no way rocket science, and such software is usually written by shareware people. |
| 21:37.31 | BabelO | cr2: something is hidden, because for camera, i see no gpio :( and no chip on i2c bus |
| 21:37.41 | BabelO | but i can monitor it with haret |
| 21:37.59 | cr2 | monitor what ? |
| 21:38.12 | BabelO | cr2: i2c |
| 21:38.40 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 21:39.21 | BabelO | cr2: that why i asked you cpld bank0 status on boot , but not that |
| 21:39.55 | BabelO | cr2: i2c activation is related to cpld bank7 power gpio |
| 21:40.07 | BabelO | if not set then i2c timeout are received |
| 21:40.23 | BabelO | else they i ve done a multiplex to share i2c busses |
| 21:44.11 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, i'll check. |
| 21:44.37 | BabelO | cr2: because maybe tps65013 is here .. i did not see it on picture :( |
| 21:46.51 | BabelO | cr2: let me try to monitor syren bus |
| 21:58.20 | lama | http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/internet/0,39044908,62041802,00.htm looool |
| 21:58.22 | lama | :> |
| 21:58.31 | lama | sorry for another off topic |
| 22:42.18 | BabelO | cr2: nothing on spi channel to monitor |
| 22:42.30 | BabelO | good night |
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