IRC log for #htc-linux on 20080526

00:00.13martin__sure, while doing what?
00:01.52cr2there is 'pd' and 'vd' command
00:02.06cr2is there 'virtual write something' ?
00:02.57martin__just rebooting into windows...
00:03.00cr2vfh , vfw
00:04.23cr2[V|P]F[B|H|W] <addr> <count> <value>
00:05.50martin__what do you actually want me to do?
00:06.37cr2add a mmutrace on the 0x1f00000 area
00:06.40cr2size 1 MB
00:07.13martin__ok
00:07.16cr20x01f00000  0x100000
00:07.25cr2it's virtual address is
00:07.34cr20xb5100000
00:07.51cr2we were not able to trace the writes there so far.
00:09.30cr2so my idea is to login, run the trace and do 'vfw' 0xb510xxxx ... to some free area (so the phone does not crash)
00:09.37martin__what's the actual syntax i need to set up the mmutrace?
00:09.56cr2addlist mmutrace 0xb5100000 0x100000
00:10.21cr2then
00:10.24cr2listen 9998
00:10.32cr2telnet xxx 9998
00:10.40cr2on other terminal
00:10.44martin__k
00:11.16martin__okay, got both connections
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00:13.38miknixcr2, do you know which audio chipset the wizard has?
00:13.47martin__is that trace running now or do i need to kick it off?
00:14.16cr2martin__: you need to run 'wi 60'
00:14.37cr2and then
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00:14.41martin__okay, and then you want me to just spam some writes from the other connection?
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00:15.29cr2vfw 0xb51f0000 0x100 0xffffffff
00:15.34martin__k
00:15.37cr2in another session
00:15.50dcordesmmutrace very nice
00:16.05cr2miknix: no, but i can have a look.
00:16.13martin__seems to be working
00:16.21miknixcr2, revertive got gsm working..
00:16.31miknixcr2, audio would be nice to hear ppl talking :p
00:16.41martin__i'm getting a fuckload of irq15
00:16.56cr2miknix: audio may be omap builtin
00:17.14cr2martin__: do you run mmutrace in 'haret'console ?
00:17.27martin__yeah, just doing it again with a logfile.
00:17.35cr2martin__: then use 'ibit irqs 15'
00:18.38martin__that leaves a bunch of 16 and 19 at longer intervals
00:18.38cr2dcordes: we are doing a bruteforce mmutrace check.
00:18.48cr2martin__: mask them too.
00:18.55martin__k
00:20.36martin__okay, one irq8 at the start of each wi now
00:21.12martin__doing the write from the other session
00:21.18dcordescr2: did Kevin2 add the second irq register line in console?
00:21.21martin__i get 002.327 2601e650: e4810004(str)         # b51f0000 =ffffffff
00:21.40cr2martin__: that's good.
00:21.49martin__and then the same up to 002.469 2601e650: e4810004(str)         # b51f03fc =ffffffff
00:22.05cr2now somebody should tell me wtf we don't see the other writes.
00:22.19cr2hmm. maybe it's page based.
00:22.20dcordesmartin__: do you have
00:22.21dcordesRegs_msm7500 = { 0xc0000000: ("IRQ", regOneBits("IRQ")), 0xc0000004: ("IRQ2", regOneBits("IRQ2")),
00:22.28dcordesin regs-msm.py?
00:23.01cr2dcordes: i may clone my haret source to xanadux CVS
00:23.29cr2dcordes: because i have many changes to haret source, and will do some more.
00:24.05martin__dcordes: nope.
00:24.08dcordescr2: or do a branch in ltg git?
00:24.29martin__dcordes: i have the IRQ line but not the IRQ2 one.
00:24.32dcordesmartin__: you only see half of the irqs w/o it. don't know if that's important now
00:24.34cr2dcordes: lol, then you'll maintain it.
00:24.54dcordescr2: don't you have one account?
00:24.55martin__dcordes: okay, i'll add that
00:25.09cr2dcordes: btw, we have 4 SD irqs in the list copied from A.
00:25.18cr2dcordes: do you see any SD/wifi irqs ?
00:25.45cr2not 4, even 8
00:26.19dcordescr2: no last time I checked for new irqs (that was after we added the irq2 line) I didn't see any further SD irqs than the ones which are already documented
00:26.27dcordess/documented/probed/
00:27.00cr2dcordes: you put haret on NAND ?
00:27.15dcordesdon't know now
00:27.32dcordesI can't do anything. My sd is toast and I did a hardreset
00:28.00dcordesmaybe ask martin to probe the sd
00:29.06martin__heh, do you guys want remote access to my kaiser to poke around?
00:29.56cr2martin__: can you put haret on the device, and trace the irqs while inserting/removing the SD card ?
00:30.06martin__sure, gimme a min
00:31.59martin__IRQ6 on insert/eject.
00:32.24dcordesthat's the SD detect
00:32.27dcordessee http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ
00:33.48martin__what are we trying to acheive here?
00:36.20dcordesI'm also a bit confused
00:36.29dcordesfirst thought this is going to be a fix-kaiser-mmutrace
00:36.35dcordesnow it looks more like kaiser sd research
00:38.45martin__i'm happy to expose the haret port on a public ip for a while if you want to poke around with mmutrace
00:40.27dcordesmartin__: I fear I have no idea what I would do with it since I
00:41.09dcordesdon't understand the whole nature of the mmutrace problem
00:41.24dcordesotherwise I would have already put it on the haret mailing list or explained it to Kevin2
00:41.25cr2dcordes: it's the msm_proc_comm port.
00:42.01cr2martin__: can you try to write into the AT tx fifo ?
00:42.16dcordesnow that's what I'm talking about
00:42.17martin__dcordes: well, if someone's around some other time who might know how to debug it but doesn't have there own kaiser, i can do it.
00:43.07cr2vfw 0xb51004208 0x100 0xffffffff
00:43.23martin__cr2: if you tell me what to do. in between, i am debugging why the msm_serial driver hangs on boot.
00:43.57cr2martin__: the same as before but write to the different area
00:44.03cr2martin__: vfw 0xb51004208 0x100 0xffffffff
00:44.12martin__ok, just a mo
00:44.13cr2hmm.
00:44.18cr2too long :)
00:44.25cr2vfw 0xb5104208 0x100 0xffffffff
00:45.01cr2with the working phone.
00:46.04dcordesmartin__: maybe turn phone off/on in comm manager before so the buffer is filled
00:47.12martin__001.797 2601e650: e4810004(str)         # b5104208 =ffffffff
00:47.14martin__...
00:47.24martin__001.902 2601e650: e4810004(str)         # b5104604 =ffffffff
00:47.49martin__dcordes: what's up with your kaiser?
00:48.50dcordesI have no access because of broken sd
00:49.09martin__dcordes: can help you set up synce if you want
00:49.10cr2martin__: ok. interesting.
00:49.31dcordescr2: what does that reveal?
00:49.53dcordesmartin__: that would be very useful. I tried to install it before but didn't get the networking setup
00:49.57cr2the arm11 mmutrace is working.
00:50.23martin__dcordes: i couldn't get it going with the usb_rndis_lite stuff
00:50.24cr2so the communication has some different arm9 -related path.
00:50.35martin__dcordes: instead i'm using the ipaq module
00:50.51dcordesmartin__: ok I will try it with the ipaq tomorrow
00:51.06martin__if you go into the USB to PC settings in Communications and turn off advanced networking, it acts just like an old ipaq.
00:52.10martin__now, here is some crazy shit!
00:52.18dcordes*_*
00:52.32martin__i am booting a kernel with msm_serial compiled in
00:52.38martin__and using initcalls_debug
00:52.51martin__it gets to
00:53.09martin__Calling initcall 0xc0014f50: tty_init+0x0/0x1c4()
00:53.24martin__where tty_init will then start some callstack
00:53.29martin__and wind up at msm_serial_init
00:53.37martin__the first thing in which is a printk
00:53.41martin__that i added
00:53.51martin__and of which the first character gets to the framebuffer
00:53.55martin__then it hangs
00:54.22martin__i'm sure it's that printk cos i've tried changing that character
00:55.31dcordesyou mean the printk makes it hang?
00:55.45cr2good night.
00:56.40martin__dcordes: no, it was hanging already
00:56.54martin__i added various printks to try and work out where
00:57.11martin__and got absolutely nothing
00:57.18martin__as if it wasn't even making it into the init
00:57.34martin__but now having turned on initcalls_debug i can see it getting to tty_init
00:57.50martin__and somehow the first character of the printk is getting through
00:58.18dcordessounds to me like it is hanging at that pritnk?
00:58.22martin__probably what's happening is the whole printk is executing, and then some other stuff
00:58.23dcordesnight cr2
00:58.52martin__but the other stuff hangs the system before the printk can get all the way to the screen
00:58.59martin__assuming there's some buffering in there
00:59.03dcordesso what might that other stuff be?
00:59.04martin__but maybe not
00:59.09martin__in which case it's even weirder
00:59.23martin__well, attempting to do something with the uart i guess
01:00.30martin__i'll try sticking some busyloops after the printks
01:01.55martin__see if i can slow things down
01:03.12martin__anyway, enough for tonight, i should sleep
01:03.18martin__catch you all tomorrow.
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01:06.55dcordesmartin__: did I miss something?
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07:58.06kiozenhi Babel1
07:58.27BabelO_hi kiozen
07:59.03kiozenBabelO_: what's more important to you: map export or track recording?
08:00.22BabelO_kiozen: i think map export :) track recording can wait, but map export display black square :( unless i do not follow the right procedure ?
08:00.31BabelO_track recording can be good too :)
08:02.39kiozenBabelO_: you do the right thing, it's just a bug in GT. I will change it to use the gdal tools. Currently I use my own thread and cheesy code
08:02.55kiozenBabelO_: ok I will do map export 1st
08:04.09BabelO_kiozen: and on M, when you select a map (without gps activated ) it point you on center of map, that's good, but if you use zomm +/- it do the zoom somawhere else ( i just select map and click on zoom +)
08:05.16kiozenBabelO_: ok, i'll have a look
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10:26.08pikapikahi
10:36.15BabelO_hi pikapika
10:36.30pikapikahi BabelO_
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11:25.47andy_jshi, I had a problem with my htc universal mounting the root filesystem
11:26.44andy_jsI found the cause but have no idea how to fix it.  fdisk shows two partition on my sd card p1 and p5
11:27.10andy_jsshouldn't that be p1 and p2 ???
11:27.20andy_jshow do I fix this?
11:28.18andy_jscant live without his portable linux fix
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12:38.19andy_jshi.
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12:38.36andy_jshas anyone managed to get linux running on their htc-universal?
12:38.59andy_jsI always get unable to sync vfs, root device not found
12:39.06andy_jsor something along those lines
12:40.39tcccpandy_js: Do you see any kernel messages that it has found some blockdevice?
12:41.01tcccpMy kernel has more debugging features than device drivers in it I fear ;)
12:41.24tcccpandy_js: Is your /etc/fstab built accordingly?
12:41.40tcccpandy_js: What's the cmdline of the bootloader
12:43.18andy_jsPreviously I made two partitions on my 1GB sd card
12:43.30andy_js1st Fat 16, 2nd Ext3
12:43.33tcccphmhm
12:43.51tcccpWasn't there some issue with such a partition table with other devices similar to the htcu?
12:44.15andy_jsI'm not sure.  I then extracted the GPE image onto the ext3 partition and installed the
12:44.16tcccpI still have my Kernel/Bootloader on the WinCE side of life
12:45.03andy_jsI think I have traced the cause of my problem, but I don't know how to go about fixing it.
12:45.23tcccpwhat's the cause?
12:45.31andy_jsLinux sees two paritions
12:45.36tcccpaye...and?
12:45.36andy_jsp1 and p5
12:45.46andy_jsnot p1 and p2
12:45.49tcccpextended partitions %)
12:46.16andy_jsso I need to make both partitions extended?
12:46.21tcccperrrm
12:46.30tcccpI avoid extended partitions even on multiboot pcs
12:46.41tcccpswap, /boot, /, ${other_os}
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12:49.48tcccpandy_js: If you're not willing to change anything concerning the partitions, set the cmdline / fstab to the values the kernel sees
12:53.06tcccpbrb
12:54.25andy_jsHow do I do that?
12:56.08BabelO_andy_js: look where cab install the .exe, near the .exe you can see a .txt file
12:58.32andy_jsI can't find the .txt
12:58.54andy_jsHow did you guys install linux, and what images do you use?
12:58.57BabelO_andy_js: what do you see in directory ? only .exe ?.
12:59.04andy_jsdoesn't mind repartitioning
12:59.19andy_jsI have:
12:59.35andy_js<PROTECTED>
12:59.40andy_js<PROTECTED>
12:59.52andy_jsboth contain one .exe called linload
12:59.55andy_jsthat is all
13:00.20andy_jsat least I think its an .exe
13:00.36BabelO_andy_js: ok, so this exe contain zImage and default.txt with command line parameters, you cant change it, so you have to use mmcblk0p2 partition
13:01.15andy_jshow do I create the mmcblk0p2 partition?
13:01.36andy_jsI have tried several times and I always end up with p1 and p5
13:01.48andy_jsboth set to primary partitions
13:02.07BabelO_andy_js: only use p option with fdisk
13:02.26andy_jsp = primary right?
13:02.37andy_jsboth partitions are already primary
13:03.18andy_jsah
13:03.30andy_jsI dunno
13:03.44andy_jsI've been using linux for about 3 years
13:04.03andy_jsI've never had partitions end up like that
13:04.08andy_jsits frustrating
13:06.04andy_jsHere is what I do/have done:
13:06.25andy_jsfdisk /dev/sdb (device name on my desktop)
13:06.37andy_jso (clear all partitions)
13:06.49andy_jsw (write)
13:06.54andy_jsn (new partition)
13:07.06andy_js1 (partition 1)
13:07.21andy_js(default block size)
13:07.27andy_jsah dammit
13:07.35andy_jsthis is pissing me off
13:13.38BabelO_andy_js: next is n 2 ?
13:13.48BabelO_should be ok then
13:22.45andy_jsBabelO_ What device do you have?
13:23.04BabelO_andy_js: i have blueangel, artemis and greenphone and n800
13:23.12andy_js:)
13:23.32andy_jsI considered the blueangel
13:23.37andy_jsand the greenphone
13:23.46andy_jsand the n800 :p
13:24.15andy_jsBut I am (will be) happy with the universal, once I get GPE running
13:27.52goxboxlive_andy_js: gpe is running on uni
13:28.00BabelO_ola goxboxlive_
13:28.05goxboxlive_hi
13:28.46goxboxlive_BabelO_: in installed debian om my uni. I am using xfce as WM, it runs ok, but  a little slow
13:28.50andy_jshi goxboxlive_
13:28.53BabelO_kiozen: i ve to send my patch for small screen, but i need help, for the second icon to displayoutside information box
13:29.09andy_jsgoxboxlive_: kudos for your would on htc-linux
13:29.14andy_jswork*
13:29.20kiozenBabelO_: what is the problem?
13:29.22goxboxlive_thx
13:30.07andy_jsBabelO_ I have recreated the partitions exactly as said in the instructions
13:31.12BabelO_andy_js: so it should be ok
13:33.16BabelO_andy_js: mount your sd card under normal linux before
13:33.59andy_jsI just extract the GPE image to the root of the SD card right, and install the .cab for the bootloader?
13:34.12andy_js(root of the ext3 partition)
13:35.33BabelO_kiozen: the png is never displayed :(
13:36.09BabelO_andy_js: before check on your normal linux that the partition mounted are sdc1 and adc2 for example
13:36.30kiozenBabelO_: either it's out of the screen or the icon is not found due to a type
13:36.33andy_jssdb1 and sdb2
13:36.49andy_jsso I guess thats alright
13:38.34BabelO_kiozen: i ll retry this evening then :) btw screen size is DeskTopWidget::ScreenGeometry() , ljp answer on the fly, he just discuss with other guy about getting screen size in applciation
13:39.02BabelO_kiozen: this function return usable size (in qpe it return size between top and bottom black bar )
13:39.05kiozenwhat would we do without ljp :)
13:39.29kiozenthat is good think I have to review my code
13:40.58BabelO_kiozen: i ve done a comm manager :)
13:41.17kiozenBabelO_: cooool :)
13:45.24andy_jsbtw: how did you come up with the name xanadux.
13:45.47andy_jsIts not named after an awesome song by a certain Canadian power trio?
13:45.54andy_jsis it?
13:49.00BabelO_don't know
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14:02.23andy_jsDamn, still doesn't work
14:04.09andy_jsUnable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
14:05.42andy_jsCan someone please help me?  I only have to stock 64mb ram, so I can't use one of those hefty all in one installers
14:06.43andy_jsI have partitioned the card correctly, and I am able to mount it via ram-disc
14:07.02andy_jsso why can't the bootloader for GPE find it?
14:15.02andy_jsgoxboxlive_: Can you confirm that all I need to do is partition the disk, extract the image, and install the bootloader?
14:18.38BabelO_kiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/sc_Thu_Jan_1_00.09.34_1970.png and for commanager http://linuxbox2.free.fr/sc_Thu_Jan_1_00.08.43_1970.png
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14:19.28andy_jsdammit, the readme files are pretty bare
14:19.44andy_jsI get the same results with the sd card removed as i do with it installed
14:19.45kiozenBabelO_: you need to downsize the font for the buttons
14:21.22BabelO_kiozen: yes a little :) i want to add a another button to switch between information mode ( altitude + direction  or full )
14:21.42BabelO_kiozen: commmanager should be generic :)
14:22.11BabelO_kiozen: no code, just a big conf file , lol
14:22.23kiozenBabelO_: always keep in mind that usually the virtual buttons should have a 1:1 with physical buttons
14:23.34kiozenBabelO_: with the n560 I will not use the touchpad too often, the vritual keys are more a hint for the real buttons
14:23.52kiozenBabelO_: however life on small phone devices might be different
14:25.00BabelO_kiozen: yes, i understand, now i can see more maps on screen :)
14:25.31kiozenBabelO_:  that is for sure :) teh layout looks nice
14:26.04kiozenBabelO_: did you notice the translate call in CInfoScreen::draw()?
14:26.28kiozenBabelO_: maybe that is the reason why you don't see your icon
14:26.35BabelO_kiozen: no , did not see
14:26.38BabelO_ahhh
14:26.50kiozenBabelO_: 0 is not top it's an offset
14:27.05BabelO_kiozen: and i fight with the inforscreen, to get two more digit on east ....
14:27.44kiozenBabelO_: because of the heading stuff for the curser or the altitude value?
14:28.09BabelO_kiozen: yes, don't understand, your high level calcul for that :)
14:28.26BabelO_kiozen: because of altitude size i think
14:28.50kiozenBabelO_: ok thus the gps position is not readable?
14:29.13BabelO_kiozen: as you can see on screenshot, i miss 2 digit
14:29.40kiozenBabelO_: ah right, this is due to bad QRect calculation
14:30.06kiozenBabelO_: on n560 I assume a certain width as I have enought space
14:30.58kiozenBabelO_: on smaller devices you have to calculate the width of a coord. and setup the QRect's according to that
14:31.54kiozenBabelO_: however if the 2nd line does not fit in total, we have a problem
14:32.53BabelO_kiozen: i also try to look if OSD is more readable, likesubtitle with black transparent backgroung
14:34.08kiozenBabelO_: yes that might be a good idea, or with white border like the waypoint label
14:34.30BabelO_yes
14:40.43kiozenBabelO_: just had a look at the phone picture on my homepage, if you place the the rectangles right, all information should fit on the infobox, without icons
14:42.27BabelO_kiozen: yes
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15:46.37dcordescr2: what about the mmutrace/fifos
15:46.45dcordeswould be nice if we could get it working
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16:11.32danielkbxCheers mates.
16:17.20kiozenhi mate
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16:26.01danielkbxHow're doing, kiozen?
16:26.29kiozendanielkbx: thanks fine
16:26.57kiozendanielkbx: I think about changing the default no map device
16:27.08kiozendanielkbx: maybe that removes your crashes
16:27.22kiozendanielkbx: but I am on the run now
16:27.25kiozenbbl
16:27.29danielkbxBye.
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16:41.13pH5hi dcordes
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16:48.23dcordes/usr/bin/synce-pcp: Could not find configuration at path '(Default)'
16:48.29dcordessomebody knows where Default is?
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17:28.32pH5hi BabelO
17:30.20BabelOpH5: pc is now working again ?
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18:06.20kiozen_BabelO: ?
18:08.45BabelOkiozen_:
18:09.06kiozen_BabelO: svn up
18:09.22kiozen_transparency should work, now
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18:13.05BabelOkiozen_: ok, i ll try back in a moment :) was looking at raw() :)
18:15.08szsoftwareDear everybody!
18:15.25pH5BabelO: yes :)
18:15.40BabelOpH5: good, so you are back :)
18:15.59BabelOpH5: is possible to have an update of 2.6.26-rc1 to 2.6.26-rc
18:16.01BabelO3
18:16.03BabelO?
18:16.23szsoftwareIs someone in this chat currently working on kernel-image for kaiser or polaris?
18:17.57BabelOpH5: it seem that suspend /resume works on artemis, but the resume broken the ext3 partition :(
18:19.29pH5BabelO: re update: sure. I'd say just merge v2.6.26-rc3 into htc-omap
18:20.22Kevin2BabelO: The mainline branch?  I can update that if you want.
18:20.23pH5suspend/resume is great news. breaking ext3 partition is probably because mmc core "ejects/reinserts" cards during suspend/resume
18:20.35pH5hi Kevin2
18:20.55Kevin2Hi pH5.
18:26.01diogene31pH5: Yet the "experimental" MMC option UNSAFE_RESUME works great here (for me at least). This one doesn't break the partition AFAIK.
18:28.00pH5diogene31: good point, thanks. and when the mmc slot is hidden beneath the battery this isn't even unsafe :)
18:28.54diogene31pH5: Ah, a good engineer designed the SD slot that I see :)
18:30.33BabelOhi Kevin2
18:31.09BabelOKevin2, pH5 yes the mainline to 2.6.23-rc3, htc-omap branch is setup to track mainine change so merge is quickly done :)
18:32.11BabelOpH5: ah good idea for eject/insert, i va to look at that, cr2 said maybe it is dma, and i see that there is dma fix for omap1, so i just hope :)
18:33.11BabelOdiogene31: :) yes i use sd slot, maybe it is a bad idea
18:33.49Kevin2BabelO: mainline branch should be updated now.  You can do it yourself - ssh into linuxtogo.org and run ~kevin/bin/gitmainline
18:33.58Kevin2(Be careful about file permissions though..)
18:34.34BabelOKevin2: thanks for tthe update :), i start htc-omap update
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18:39.43kiozen_BabelO found a bug, svn up
18:40.42kiozen_BabelO hm , still not working...
18:45.58BabelOkiozen_ rohh :)
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19:25.42kiozen_BabelO: GDAL sucks, no trival solution possible :/
19:30.27szsoftwareHey Guys, I dont wanna be annoying. Just set up IRC client and joined in here. Can you read my messages? Thanks for reply
19:31.16revertiveszsoftware: yes
19:31.34szsoftwareThank you
19:31.51revertiveyour welcome
19:31.56szsoftware:-)
19:32.51szsoftwareJust went into all that htc-linux stuff throungh xda-developers and want linux on my polaris. Contributing as much as I can.
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19:38.02szsoftwareis this -> http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm the current developing-"center" for xda-developers? Last changes are 13 days ago
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20:01.31BabelOkiozen_: so no solution :(, have to do your magix line to have only one big file ?
20:02.04kiozen_BabelO I will fix it, but not fast :)
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20:04.13dcordeshola
20:05.12dcordesszsoftware: hello :)
20:05.30BabelOkiozen_: ok, no problem :), still looking at omap resume
20:05.47BabelOkiozen_: i ve some experimental code for gt too :)
20:05.57dcordesthe development center is this place here I would say. This link there is the kernel repository for the devices with msm chipsets
20:06.09dcordeskaiser, vogue, titan, polaris and friends
20:06.16kiozen_BabelO ok, send a patch and I trow it in :)
20:06.21szsoftwareyes I know, didnt specify it
20:06.24kiozen_s/trow/throw/
20:06.36szsoftwareI am reading about msm on kaiser and pola
20:07.03szsoftwarehave read all the xda-dev thread :-)
20:07.18dcordesszsoftware: from what I have heard so far polaris is kaiser w/o keybaord
20:07.25dcordesok that's good
20:08.36szsoftwareI want to have an impression of progress and just order some things or check thatout
20:10.08szsoftwareAlso try collecting infos in the depricated Linux Page on the xda-dev wiki.
20:10.39BabelOkiozen_: i need a volume test :) scanning some maps actually
20:11.41kiozen_BabelO: I have referenced a gridless map today
20:11.42dcordesszsoftware: there is not just the deprecated xanadux page but also important research information for the different devices
20:11.50dcordestry searching for <devicename> research
20:12.12kiozen_BabelO: If you try to avoid errors while scanning, you can fit the tiles together with gimp
20:12.18dcordeshttp://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserResearch eg
20:12.32BabelOkiozen_: yes i ve tried that :)
20:12.34kiozen_BabelO: next you can reference the map with a few points.
20:12.56BabelOkiozen_: but i need 4Gb memory more
20:14.32kiozen_BabelO: my map has 26009x18655 pixel, that was still quite workable in gimp
20:15.03kiozen_BabelO: Win XP died because of the 2GB per process limit :P
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20:17.53BabelOkiozen_: lol
20:18.09BabelOkiozen_: adjust the 2Gb limit sezt it to 3Gb
20:18.38BabelOkiozen_: 3Gb is the ultimate limit
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20:20.21BabelOkiozen ? 3Gb limit ? you have the windows key for that ?
20:20.35kiozenBabelO: gimp works, it's just a PITA to rotate, scale and move the tiles, but if they have just minor errors it works
20:20.49kiozenBabelO what key?
20:21.39BabelOkiozen on windows you can change this limit and set it to 3Gb, don't remember if it is only for server edition
20:22.26kiozenBabelO never tried :) but why bother, we have linux
20:23.42BabelOkiozen yes agree
20:24.57kiozenBabelO: hugin looks quite nice but it's only for panorama views
20:24.58szsoftwaredcordes: will take a further look at the recommended site
20:25.10kiozenBabelO: no matrix of tiles
20:25.29kiozenBabelO: http://hugin.sourceforge.net/
20:27.05BabelOkiozen ah yes i see something like that already
20:27.59szsoftwaredcordes: is the LINUX/XANADUX Wiki page a really wiki or is there some coordination about its content? Don't want to change too much, if someone feels undermining his competence..
20:28.19kiozenBabelO: but I haven't figured out yet how to switch off the lens correction
20:39.19dcordesszsoftware: sorry I'm the wrong person to ask about this
20:43.10szsoftwaredcordes: the research page is not so useful for me since I'm not that hacker but compiler/tester :-)
20:44.03szsoftwaredcordes: btw, PolarisResearch doesn't exist.
20:45.18szsoftwaredcordes: conclusively the xda-dev wiki needs really to be maintained more. Will see what can I do..
20:45.55pH5szsoftware: create it then, it's a wiki for that reason. it's nice not to reorganise other people's stuff while they look the other way, but creating new pages or adding information can't be wrong
20:46.14pH5or so I think :)
20:47.09BabelOpH5: i did not see git mainline change
20:47.36pH5BabelO: it's at -rc4 now
20:47.38BabelOpH5: i ve done git fetch, then git pull origin htc-omap as usuall, but by Makefile is still -rc1
20:48.01pH5BabelO: because it won't merge automatically, you have to do that
20:48.34BabelOpH5: really ? even with the git --track i ve done to create branch .. ok i look
20:49.18pH5BabelO: try what happens when you fetch mainline
20:49.58pH5at least in the linuxtogo.org repository it's not tracking mainline
20:50.02BabelOpH5: ok, i ll ask on git channel to have more explanation :)
20:50.07szsoftwareph5: yes youre right. But when I went into that stuff I was very confused about the not good organized informations. I assume that the wiki.xda-dev Linux pages Portal Xanadux is not correct for the whole Linux issue. Isn't xanadux a special project for certain devices?
20:50.09martin__dcordes: still need help with synce?
20:52.33pH5szsoftware: I think xanadux is our roots. but when I started playing with magician the xanadux cvs repo on sourceforge.net was already abandoned more or less.
20:58.49szsoftwareph5: I don't want to waste your time. But I don't know a better place to discuss this issue. As I said, I went into that stuff some days before and it couldt be easier to find a starting point to join developement or contributing.
21:01.33pH5szsoftware: don't worry, if anybody wastes my time on irc, it's me
21:03.22BabelOpH5: ok, merging by hand , ùy create command should do it, but they don't know,  i use git merge origin/mainline now :)
21:03.23szsoftwareph5: Imagine how many current htc-devices are currently selled. Some new owners love linux and want have playing mp3 in a bash-console and they wouldt do anything for that. But less of them are enthusiatstic linux fans most of them no hackers but many potential testers of your kernel images and some want to compile their own. If information woudlt be easier to achive central and quickly, it would
21:03.39szsoftwareph5: be good for the progress
21:04.16pH5BabelO: the difference is that the fetch mainline was done on the linuxtogo server by Kevin2
21:04.28pH5but in the repo on ltg.org, htc-omap does not track mainline
21:04.56BabelOpH5: ok
21:04.57pH5in your local repo htc-omap tracks mainline, so fetching mainline in your local copy should do the merge automatically
21:05.02pH5AIUI
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21:07.38pH5szsoftware: that's probably true.
21:08.25cr2hi
21:08.55pH5hi cr2
21:09.06cr2pH5: are the htc-spi-kbd and Kevin2's s3c2442 patches in the mainline git tree now ?
21:11.32szsoftwareph5: As I consider it right, there is strong and active developement on htc-linux and the msm-stuff. Would'nt it be nice, to have a buildroot/framework for all that devices, mentioned on xda-developers, such as openwrt for wlan-devices?
21:13.57cr2szsoftware: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org
21:14.18cr2szsoftware: but there are different goals for different people.
21:14.21pH5cr2: no. mainline should only contain just that.
21:14.33cr2pH5: ok
21:14.44pH5but we could misuse master for that I guess
21:14.56cr2pH5: you've told me that it's possible to use generic gpio api for asic3 gpio ?
21:14.58cr2lol
21:15.08pH5Kevin2: any opinion on that?
21:15.43pH5we could go and create htc-pxa, htc-s3c etc. branches, but I agree with cr2 that a single development branch would be nice.
21:16.34pH5using work for this might be too much work (merging the whole hh.org history with every new -rc...)
21:16.44cr2yes, we have mostly zero overlap between these branches, and even the omap people are using the same drivers.
21:17.15paulproteuspays attention to this discussion
21:17.36cr2pH5: is there something _really_ unique in the hh.org tree ?
21:17.48cr2pH5: for the non-ipaq devices
21:18.05cr2acx100 comes to mind.
21:18.12pH5cr2: the low-level power management hooks we use for resume and the serial hooks for example
21:18.25cr2yes, i feared that too.
21:18.49cr2both are really necessary.
21:25.05tre9Hi all.  I tried the BA Qtopia image on linuxtogo.  Looks very nice, but I had trouble starting applications.  I think only the phone app started.
21:25.15tre9Is that image working well for others?
21:29.01BabelOtre9: hi, yes works well here
21:29.29tre9ok.  is it slow the first time it boots maybe?
21:36.47dcordesszsoftware: there is a kernel package for the msm git and a kaiser machine type in openembedded
21:37.10dcordes(angstrom is built with oe)
21:37.36szsoftwareI just read the angstrom pages :-). Downloading oe and bitbake...
21:37.55BabelOtre9: yes it is
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21:38.11dcordesszsoftware: currently it builds some git.android.com revision, not our own msm tree
21:38.48szsoftwarewill your development go back into the git.android tree?
21:39.01dcordesno I do not think so
21:39.21szsoftwareso there is concurrent develpment?
21:39.22paulproteusIf it hits mainline it probably would..
21:39.28dcordesbut I will try and keep up with them once we get further on kaiser
21:39.34tre9BabelO: seems to be working better now, thank you.  This is really slick!
21:39.36lamahello
21:39.40dcordesszsoftware: not really
21:40.06dcordesI wouldn't call this concurrent
21:41.04dcordesmartin__: yes I start the dccm program thing and synce-start-serial which looks fine. but then I don't know how to go on. I would like to have the nand as a filesystem
21:41.06szsoftwarebut what does it matter if you merge git.android, isn't it?
21:41.36BabelOtre9: you have tried auto install ? or you installed on ext3 partition ?
21:43.29tre9I used ext3 partition because that's what I was familiar with.  I hear the autoinstall is easy though.
21:44.33cr2tre9: but probably slower at runtime
21:45.25BabelOtre9: you have my app working on latest image :)
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21:46.07cr2BabelO: did the si47xx people answer you ?
21:46.11dcordesszsoftware: sorry not sure what you mean
21:46.18tre9cr2: I guess it needs an extra step to write to FAT file?
21:46.45tre9BabelO: which app?
21:46.52cr2tre9: loop+fat
21:47.36BabelOtre9: messenger app in application
21:50.15tre9BabelO: Oh, I just found Application button :)
21:50.36szsoftwaredcordes: your development in git.linuxtogo.org htc-msm is based on git.android. I thought, devel in git.android goes into that tree from time to time
21:50.50tre9BabelO: I don't have network connection to BA here, but will test tomorrow.
21:51.40BabelOtre9: ok :)
21:51.40dcordesszsoftware: yes you're right. That's how it's supposed to go
21:52.08dcordesszsoftware: I don't see the point in merging the git.android changes at the moment. Won't get us anywhere
21:52.10BabelOtre9: i will add a commangaer soon too, i m testing it on artemis :)
21:52.56tre9BabelO: that would be great.
21:54.35szsoftwaredcordes: Ok. But what about the angstrom/oe progress. Is that concurrent to your efforts? From there came same promisingly things
21:54.54szsoftwaredcordes: some
21:55.22dcordesszsoftware: OE is just metadata. We can use it to make images with the kernel/modules in linuxtogo
21:55.27BabelOcr2: testing rc4 there is a dma fix in it
21:55.57szsoftwaredcordes: I see.
21:57.20szsoftwaredcordes: some more questions: In the forum you provide some current images for testing.The git tree is 13days old. Did I miss something?
21:57.59dcordesszsoftware: it is made from my local tree. I tried to merge the latest changes from dzo with git.linuxtogo.org htc-msm
21:58.10dcordesbecause I'm not able to test myself I posted it on the forum ;)
21:58.31szsoftwaredcordes: :-)
21:58.39dcordesbut that was nonsense anyway because I don't need sound when I can't dial
21:59.01dcordescr2: what can we do about the mmutrace?
21:59.41szsoftwaredcordes: why not ? videofonie and in german we call it "gebärdensprache" :-)
22:00.14dcordesszsoftware: the point is we can read at commands on kaiser but not write them. So you won't be able to dial anything
22:00.56dcordeseven more important is to make booting mroe reliable
22:01.12dcordesI guess you took from the thread that there is an annoying problem
22:02.06szsoftwaredcordes: is that in context of my last statement?
22:02.30dcordesno it's just random bits of information
22:03.37dcordeswell somehow it is. You can't make video calls either when you can't dial.
22:03.41BabelOcr2: this message make me crazy :) dmesg: Stale NFS file handle
22:03.59cr2BabelO: you have nfs in your kernel ?
22:04.21BabelOcr2: yes to mount my home computer
22:04.31cr2dcordes: i think we should dissect the msm_proc_comm function and dump as much as possible
22:04.32BabelOcr2: it is after resume, so maybe ph5 is right
22:04.43BabelOcr2: i need to remove the mmc eject / insert
22:04.59cr2dcordes: where is msm_proc_comm  located
22:05.02cr2BabelO: ok.
22:05.23dcordescr2: what you mean dissect? look where it is on kaiser?
22:17.38cr2dcordes: in the kernel tree
22:18.11cr2dcordes: i wish we could track who writes things in these DEX regions.
22:18.34dcordescr2: If that's what you mean, I already tried to add the proc comm code into our tree
22:27.35dcordescr2: people in the xda forum say they can't boot my kaiser zImage with proc comm
22:38.50dzohi all
22:41.30dcordeshi dzo
22:42.20dzohow are things, have you figured out the mmutrace problems yet?
22:42.42dcordesnot really. martin__ did something yesterday
22:43.01dcordesI'm not quite sure about what it meant
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22:43.52dzoI think he just checked that you could trace a write from haret and you can so it's not harets fault.
22:45.17dzoperhaps smem is mapped to somewhere else too, are you using virtual addresses to mmutrace, doing p2v(addr) wont work because there is another mapping at 0x9bfx that it gets first.
22:47.45dcordeshm I don't know and can't test now
22:47.45dzosend me a mmu dump and I'll have a look, (dump mmu in haret)
22:47.59dcordesoh damn why does my sd have to broken now
22:48.07dcordesmartin__: you here?
22:48.08dzowhy do you need sd?
22:48.15dcordesto access
22:48.37dzowhat's wrong with usb?
22:48.44dcordesdon't have synce working
22:49.04dcordesI could install active sync on a windows machine
22:49.05dzohave you tried rndis-lite?
22:49.37dzoyou also need to change some settings on the phone i think
22:49.49dcordesdzo: I think I set it up correctly already. So I tried to install a cab file for testing but that can't find the configuration file in 'Default' path
22:49.57dcordesdzo: did that I think the connection is ok
22:50.05dcordessynce-serial-start looks ok
22:50.41dzoit should set up another eth adapter with address 169.254.2.2
22:51.22dzoare you running odccm too
22:51.23dcordesa second let me start it up
22:51.55dcordesdccm I have
22:51.58dzotry odccm -f and plug in the phone
22:53.08dcordessynce-serial-start is now waiting for your device to connect -> message shows up on kaiser saying user is ok or so
22:53.39dcordesand "dccm" is running but not odccm
22:54.06dzoI don't use synce-serial, just the rndis module and odccm.
22:54.30dzowhat are your last kernel messages, dmesg | tail
22:54.50dcordes[59915.114613] ipaq 6-2:1.0: PocketPC PDA converter detected
22:54.50dcordes[59915.116708] usb 6-2: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0
22:57.16dzoon the phone, try selecting "enable advanced network functionality" under usb settings in the settings menu.
22:58.55dcordesok
22:59.03dcordesand then?
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22:59.45dzodisconnect and reconnect and see if there are messages about rndis from kernel.
23:01.16dzopls, pcp etc.. should then work
23:01.53dcordesconnect using dccm & synce-serial-start?
23:02.53dzono, just physically connect the phone and it rndis0 should appear.
23:03.05dcordeseth1: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:1d.2-2, RNDIS device, 80:00:60:0f:e8:00
23:03.19dzook try pls
23:03.38dcordessynce-pls?
23:03.55dzoperhaps, i just have pls
23:04.40dzodccm should also say device_info_received
23:05.12dcordessynce-pls gives me this stupid config file not found error
23:05.44dzoanyway, if you follow the instructions on the synce page it should work, i've got to go now. bye...
23:07.16dcordesdzo: I will email you mmu
23:07.22dcordeshm I've already done this..
23:09.18dcordescr2: do you have the kaiser mmu dump?
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23:40.09cr2dcordes: maybe
23:40.33lama_hi cr2
23:42.37dcordescr2: can you email it to dzo?
23:47.44martin__dcordes: do you have some firewall rules?
23:48.17martin__that seems to be one of the big gotchas with synce
23:49.01martin__you need to be letting in packets over the ppp link from the phone
23:53.00martin__i couldn't get it to work the rndis way
23:53.08martin__so am doing it the ipaq way
23:54.02lama_http://wepokers.blogspot.com/2008/05/microsoft-confirms-windows-7-for-2010.html
23:54.43dcordesmartin__: nevermind can you get dzo an mmu dump?
23:54.55martin__sure
23:55.13dcordesI will install this smb program and do it over wifi when I got my sd..
23:55.21dcordesthat's great thanks.
23:56.43martin__dcordes: for synce i'm using these udev rules:
23:56.46martin__ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="ipaq", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", RUN+="/usr/sbin/synce-serial-udev-add"
23:56.49martin__ACTION=="remove", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", RUN+="/usr/sbin/synce-serial-udev-remove"
23:56.56tcccp:)
23:57.01tcccpWhat would I do without you guys
23:57.10tcccp1:57am - time for booting some linux on my pda ;)

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