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00:22.37martin__Anyone had any luck with the msm_serial driver?
00:23.38martin__dcordes: I'm on it! If I can just get a working /dev/ttyMSM0, I think I can get Bluetooth.
00:27.16martin__The driver loads, but the probe doesn't find anything and I don't understand how probing works and where to start changing things.
00:28.57martin__The emulator image for android has the BRF6300 firmware in it, /etc/firmware/brf6300.bin, and the /etc/init.rc has the details of how to hciattach it.
00:29.14martin__So we just need to get at the port.
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01:08.36martin__Ah! It's commented out in board-htckaiser.c. Anyone know why?
01:14.18martin__...cos it hangs on boot, I see.
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01:29.54martin__Bizarre. I'd have thought adding it to the platform_add_devices() would just mean msm_serial_probe gets called on it, but printks at the top of that aren't appearing before the hang...
01:35.23Kevin3miknix: pong..
01:55.15dcordes_martin__: yo
01:55.39dcordes_so you don't see the printks
02:00.01dcordes_martin__: so does it hang before you see anything?
02:00.44dcordes_cr2: that's the problem I don't know what head and tail for the AT send fifo to set in order to make it working. I assumed that iwas just a matter of that setting but still didn't figure which
02:00.55dcordes_that's why I sent you the dumps initially
02:06.11dcordesmartin__: are you using the firmware from the google image?
02:13.57martin__dcordes: I haven't got as far as loading firmware yet, still trying to get the msm_serial driver going.
02:17.23martin__but I think that's the firmware we need
02:17.42martin__probably just left in by accident when they did the emulator images.
02:19.21dcordesmartin__: in which image did you find them?
02:19.23dcordesfrom dzo website?
02:19.37martin__no, ramdisk.img from the android sdk.
02:21.01dcordesdzo: is the person who wrote the initial patches for the git.android.com tree for his vogue which allowed us booting
02:21.17dcordeshe knows much about the msm
02:21.26martin__yeah, i'm aware of his stuff
02:25.35martin__dcordes: why are the phys_io and io_pg_offset fields in the kaiser MACHINE_START set like that?
02:27.08martin__everything seems to suggest you only want those settings if you're running a debugger off UART1.
02:27.33martin__the vogue just has zero set for both
02:30.40dcordesmartin__: no idea just change it I can commit it
02:30.52dcordesif that's wrong in the current state
02:31.24martin__i think it might be what's stopping the serial port working
02:31.38martin__but right now i can't seem to get a kernel booting at all
02:31.42martin__so i can't check for sure.
02:31.45dcordeshow's that?
02:31.55dcordeshangs in haret?
02:32.16martin__yeah, progress bar at the end but nothing happens
02:32.20dcordeswhat do you boot? angstrom console?
02:32.24martin__yup
02:33.10dcordesyep that's just the usual ramdisk screwage. I boot like that: First of all I have all the stuff on nand. I softreset, copy the initrd I use from sd to nand overwriting the old initrd, then I boot immedeately
02:33.15dcordesalmost works always
02:33.48martin__ah
02:33.57martin__i haven't been using sd at all
02:34.08dcordessounds like nonesense and probably is.
02:34.32dcordesI always use sd as pc<>kaiser
02:34.48martin__i've been using synce
02:35.07dcordesdoesn't work for me somehow
02:35.14dcordesbtw did you try the AT recv?
02:35.18martin__nah not yet
02:40.01martin__if you want to try this serial fix, change those two fields i mentioned to zeroes and uncomment the msm_serial0_device line from the devices array on line ~284.
02:41.48dcordesI don't have access between my local tree and kaiser now
02:42.14martin__ok
02:42.24martin__i'll keep trying to get this booting again...
02:42.43dcordestry what I said
02:42.49dcordesare you in stock wince rom?
02:42.54martin__yup
02:43.07dcordesme too voda germany and that always works for me
02:43.20dcordeswe seriously need the SD card though to get rid of this
02:43.42martin__hmm
02:43.47martin__i can boot your kernel
02:43.59dcordeswhich?
02:44.10martin__maybe just my tree that's fucked up
02:44.23martin__the one you uploaded when i first came on here
02:44.34dcordesok then looks like it's your tree
02:46.07martin__but that's seriously bizarre, because the only change currently in that tree is a couple of printk's in the serial probe
02:46.56dcordesalso bizarre is that I can boot the huge android initrd but a tiny X11 image never boots
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02:47.16martin__is it initrds that haret seems sensitive to, or kernels?
02:50.18martin__okay, seems more reliable doing it through haretconsole
02:50.34martin__in any case changing that doesn't seem to help
02:58.08martin__hmm
02:58.28martin__in haretconsole i see "Framebuffer overlaps with kernel destination"
02:58.43martin__that doesn't sound like a great idea
03:06.23martin__okay
03:07.28martin__dcordes: confirmed it still boots with phys_io and io_pg_offset set to 0 as per the vogue. I'm pretty sure that's the right thing to have.
03:08.20martin__however with or without that change, adding the msm_serial0 platform device makes it hang after "Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x40"
03:09.23martin__which on a normal boot is when the msm_serial_probe gets called
03:09.46martin__so there's something wrong there
03:10.12martin__but i'm still confused because the first thing i have in that probe is a printk
03:10.27martin__so it seems like there's a problem before it even gets into the probe
03:11.07martin__somewhere in the platform_driver_probe call stack
03:11.37martin__i'll try some more debugging on that tomorrow
03:11.49martin__but now it is well past my bedtime, goodnight :)
03:17.16mistadmanIs there a limitation to how large an image haret can load?
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03:42.11dcordesmartin__: according to my observations, initrds, not kernel what haret is sensitive to.
03:42.30dcordesmartin__: the overlap error is common. also have it
03:43.21dcordesmartin__: I also hat a freeze on the switching to color fb after I changed *something*
03:43.56dcordesI doubt this helps :)
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08:51.19danielkbxHello everybody.
08:55.15martin__dcordes: if you can remember what it was you changed to get that, i'd be interested.
08:55.29martin__i'll pepper it with printks later and see what i can find out
08:56.50BabelOhi
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09:24.50kiozenhi BabelO
09:25.09BabelOhi kiozen
09:25.14kiozenBabelO: I still have this nsi stuff on my stack :)
09:25.29BabelOoh, wait i send you changes :)
09:31.26danielkbxHi kiozen.
09:31.36kiozenhu danielkbx
09:31.36danielkbxI tested QLandkarteM.
09:31.42kiozen:)
09:31.44danielkbxWithout maps :-)
09:31.47kiozenlol
09:32.03kiozenhm, how do we get a map for you
09:32.14danielkbxSo I just wanted to see, that the GPS light starts to blink.
09:32.19danielkbxDon't worry, I'l get it.
09:32.29kiozenis OSM for your area detailed enought?
09:32.38danielkbxI just wanted to say, that it crashed with a great bang :-).
09:32.44danielkbxOSM?
09:32.51kiozenM crashed?
09:32.58danielkbxJap, it did.
09:33.02kiozen:(
09:33.23danielkbxSince the linux crashes after a while I am not sure, that it really was M.
09:33.30danielkbxCould have been Linux as well.
09:33.34kiozencan you reproduce it?
09:33.42danielkbxI'll try in a few minutes.
09:33.55danielkbxI just tapped around a bit :-)
09:34.00kiozenOSM == OpenStreetMap project
09:34.51kiozenhm, the NoMap default isn't tested to deeply
09:36.54BabelOdanielkbx: what do you see when it crash ??
09:40.58danielkbxOkay, I did it again.
09:41.05danielkbxCall me Britney :-)
09:41.13danielkbxI started M.
09:41.13kiozenyuck :P
09:41.33danielkbxIn the menu two time the right bottom button.
09:41.59danielkbxI could see the gps settings a second, than a nice black screen.
09:42.16danielkbxSaid: /dev/rtc not found.
09:42.24danielkbxSo I think it is a kernel problem.
09:43.21danielkbxkiozen: What do you think of a little website pimping?
09:44.19kiozendanielkbx: ? :)
09:44.42danielkbxI am a web developer.
09:44.44kiozenBabelO: do you have the F1-F4 key event assigend to anything in qtopia?
09:44.52danielkbxNope.
09:44.56danielkbxSorry.
09:45.06BabelOkiozen: F1 and F2 yes
09:45.36kiozenBabelO: hm, I use these internally
09:46.07BabelOdanielkbx: not a kernel problem, /dev/rtc is nor here this is normal
09:46.26danielkbxOkay.
09:46.51kiozenBabelO: I do a version with other keys, I need 4 key events that are clean. Which ones to use?
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09:47.35BabelOkiozen: wrong; i use F11 and F12
09:47.40kiozenok
09:47.59kiozenBabelO: can you reproduce the crash?
09:48.18BabelOi can try :)
09:48.57BabelOdanielkbx: to leave M just press GPS button one time then exit :) back button does not work for M
09:49.27danielkbxI did not press any buttons
09:49.41danielkbxJust the ones on the screen.
09:49.45kiozendanielkbx: that is ok
09:49.52danielkbxA wait.
09:50.00danielkbxI remeber another thing.
09:50.18kiozendanielkbx: back to the Webpage :) sure you can. I hate doing that stuff
09:50.30danielkbxThe first error message was "process 1 caught sigterm"
09:50.58danielkbxkiozen: Would be a nice way to say thanks for the introduction to this topic.
09:51.20danielkbxI'll be available for this at the end of july.
09:51.45kiozenI am happy about every help :) no rush - after all it's just a hobby
09:53.10danielkbxDoes BabelO needs some kind of project page?
09:53.51danielkbxkiozen: I think you don't insist on Joomla?
09:54.34kiozendanielkbx: not really, it just works for me on my limited server, without too much problems
09:54.47kiozendanielkbx: and it's easy to edit for me
09:55.19kiozenthat's how I did it befor joomla: http://qlandkarte.sourceforge.net/
09:56.41danielkbxHave a look at one of my project pages: http//delaware.keksbox.com
09:57.02danielkbxWe could a page like this or any PHP or ASP.NET system.
09:57.09danielkbxI hate verbs.
09:57.49BabelOkiozen: mail for you :)
09:58.35kiozendanielkbx: looks a bit lost on my 30'' TFT :P
09:58.38kiozenBabelO: ok
09:59.43danielkbx:-D Player!
10:00.02BabelOdanielkbx: what is your project page ?? it point me here http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol
10:00.20danielkbxhttp//delaware.keksbox.com
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10:00.38danielkbxkiozen: It's cooperate design.
10:00.45danielkbxNo choice so far.
10:01.00danielkbxcannot make links.
10:01.04kiozendelaware, that name rings some bells...
10:01.15BabelOroh not french website :)
10:01.24danielkbxNope, BabelO.
10:01.31kiozendanielkbx: you just forgot the ':'
10:01.47danielkbxIt is a newsletter tools.
10:01.52danielkbxThanks kiozen.
10:02.20danielkbxSee, we stupid mac users have just 3 buttons and ":" is not with it.
10:02.47kiozenLOL
10:03.16kiozenI always wonderes how you can live with just 1 mouse button
10:03.23danielkbxThat is a lie!
10:03.38danielkbxIt looks like one button.
10:03.42kiozenno the old mac mice just have one
10:03.56kiozenah ok :)
10:04.05danielkbxYou're right, but that's ten years ago.
10:04.24danielkbxI think, the next generation of macbook does not have a single mouse button.
10:04.46danielkbxJust a wonderful huge multitouch pad,
10:04.58kiozenso steve jobs implemented "focus follows mind"
10:05.15kiozenwith an uplink to Apple Inc.
10:06.35danielkbxExactly.
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10:07.13danielkbxJust in case you'll be sitting in front of a maacbook: just tap the pad with two fingers: violà, right mouse bottun.
10:08.10kiozenI have to admit I am a mouse lover, I never use the touchpad, always have my usb mouse with me
10:09.08danielkbx:-)
10:09.34danielkbxWait til I have my iPhone :-)
10:10.14danielkbxBabelO will port Linux, right?
10:10.33BabelOdanielkbx: lol, already running linux, no ?
10:10.49danielkbxYes and no.
10:10.57danielkbxOS X is not a real linux.
10:11.09danielkbxIt is a darwin kernel = UNIX.
10:11.37danielkbxAnd you do not see any of it (as long as you do not want to).
10:11.45kiozenBabelO: is the FWTools section a good place? What happens if FWTools is preinstalled and the FWTools section is unchecked
10:12.04kiozenWouldn't QLandkarte section be better?
10:14.37BabelOkiozen: yes, better idea, anyway i miss the register of PATH=%PATH%;%FWTOOLS%
10:16.01kiozenBabelO: register what?
10:16.06BabelOkiozen: normally, you can check that all variable are well registered by pressing WIN + PAUSE, in the user part
10:16.32BabelOkiozen: all variable are set like in *.bat, but not added to the path
10:18.10kiozenBabelO:
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10:19.56BabelOlol, baned :)
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10:20.14kiozenshit
10:20.18kiozensorry
10:20.18kiozenBabelO: wanted to say :
10:20.18kiozenBabelO: !include: could not find: "WriteEnvStr.nsh"
10:20.19kiozenBabelO: best you send me the complete nsi
10:20.36kiozenI allways forget that mouse selection does not copy to clipboard in win32
10:20.55BabelOkiozen: i added the file to mail, just copy it to the include folder wqhere other .nsh are
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10:21.31holycowhallo htc
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10:24.42BabelOcr2: http://pastebin.ca/1026951 nice random, don't know the purpose :)
10:25.32kiozenBabelO:
10:25.33kiozenReadRegStr expects 4 parameters, got 3.
10:25.33kiozenUsage: ReadRegStr $(user_var: output) rootkey subkey entry
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10:26.12kiozenBabelO: the offending line is: ReadRegStr $0 HKLM "Software\FWtools\Install_Dir"
10:26.37BabelOkiozen: humm, i need to check
10:32.34kiozenlunch time, pizza pizza :)
10:36.02BabelOkiozen: ReadRegStr $0 HKLM "Software\FWtools" Install_Dir
10:36.08BabelObut something else is missing ...
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10:55.23kiozenberp...
10:58.16kiozenBabelO: much better, now the projection is done right
10:58.44kiozenBabelO: but some peculiar warnings during nsi build
10:58.49BabelOkiozen: really ? but FWTools is not added to path ..
10:59.29kiozenBabelO: ah wait, still install the bat instead of exe....
10:59.50BabelOkiozen: wait ;
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11:00.39kiozenBabelO: yes right path is missing :)
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11:11.03BabelOkiozen: mail :)
11:11.13BabelOjust replace the section part :)
11:13.46kiozenBabelO: stil get these warnings: warning: uninstall function "un.WriteEnvStr" not referenced - zeroing code (0-24) out
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11:20.24BabelOkiozen: now it should work
11:20.50BabelOfor the warning , it is due to the tool script writeenv
11:21.04kiozenBabelO: hm, not yet I have to move the FWTools section infront of the QLandkarte section, still testing...
11:24.42kiozenBabelO: it fails, still no gdal_fw.dll in path
11:25.01kiozencan you send me your script, maybe I fsck mine
11:28.27kiozenBabelO: PATH=%FWTOOLS_DIR%\bin;%FWTOOLS_DIR%\python;%PATH%
11:28.35kiozenfor user
11:28.51BabelOkiozen: good so it works, you can see other variable too
11:29.38kiozenBabelO: FWTOOLSDIR=C:\Programme\FWTools2.1.0
11:29.45kiozenthat can't work :)
11:30.40BabelOwhy ?
11:30.48BabelOah sorry :)
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11:31.03BabelOcan you change it :)
11:31.38kiozenBabelO: try to find out where
11:32.18kiozenok, now I know
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11:57.01kiozenBabelO: Bingo, now it works :) Thanks!
12:00.13BabelOkiozen: now,  you can do something for me :)
12:00.24kiozenok :)
12:04.57BabelOkiozen: i send you a dsp code, a friend want dynamic sound normalization
12:05.25kiozenoh gosh :)
12:05.30BabelOkiozen: he use this code, because it works fine
12:06.58BabelOkiozen: but hard to understand what this do
12:09.48kiozenBabelO: definetly :)
12:10.16lamaHello World!
12:10.53kiozenBabelO: so you want me to extract the math ?
12:12.59BabelOkiozen: i ve to ask him before, because he started to transform this to C
12:13.14BabelOkiozen: now qlandkarte time :) i try to compile it :)
12:13.37kiozenBabelO: current svn failes in win32
12:13.52kiozennearbyintf is undefined :/
12:14.16BabelOkiozen: i mean M, i need a commmanager app too
12:14.51kiozenQSerialPort should do the setup
12:15.32BabelOkiozen: i prefer driving power over /sys so i can do what i want
12:16.07kiozenok, thought it's just for speed and stuff
12:16.31BabelObecause like it is done each time you start qlandkarteM it power up GPS
12:17.08kiozenhm, but isn't that the wanted behaviour?
12:17.28kiozenI could add a "no gps" entry
12:18.12BabelOkiozen: humm, if i take bt as example, when device is suspended, you want to keep bt powered, to allow wakeup from headset or something else
12:18.29BabelOfor gps, maybe i want to use M without gps just for map
12:19.00BabelOcan 't reproduce danielkbx step :( i press back twice
12:19.09cr2hi
12:19.22BabelOi cr2
12:19.33BabelO[12:27] <BabelO> cr2: http://pastebin.ca/1026951 nice random, don't know the purpose :)
12:19.34kiozenBabelO: thus a "no gps" entry would be the right way, wouldn't it?
12:19.40cr2BabelO: there are some register differences between g4 chips too, not only the address space.
12:19.54BabelOcr2: ok , that s explain the error
12:19.58cr2BabelO: so there are 3 chips: g3, g4_1 and g4_2
12:20.14cr2BabelO: n560 and arte are g4_2
12:20.30cr2BabelO: athena and sable are g4_1
12:20.46BabelOkiozen: yes can be ok too, i just like the wince way to let user decide topower on /off device too , maybe that :)
12:21.09kiozendoes anyone know: is nearbyintf() the same as (int)(double + 0.5)
12:21.33cr2i think you can't "detect" any difference between g4_1 and g4_2, so one must be very careful.
12:22.22cr2i'll document the differences. it's certainly a good idea to load zimage from g4 on n560, arte and others.
12:23.11cr2kiozen: i'm always wondering why it's not in libm
12:24.08kiozencr2: win32 does not know it, but it's just normal rounding isn't it?
12:24.55cr2kiozen: yes.
12:25.48cr2kiozen: nearbyintf() is probably (int)(float + 0.5)
12:26.03cr2but it does not matter.
12:26.23kiozenok
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12:31.34kiozencr2: and lrint is the same, too=
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12:53.03kiozenBabelO, cr2: http://qlandkarte.org/QLandkarteGT.exe
12:53.24kiozenBabelo_n800: you ahve got a n800?
12:53.52Babelo_n800kiozen: yes i ve one
13:10.50Babelo_n800kiozen: M can look nice on this device ;) with 800x480, just need a new ui, like for universal in landscape mode
13:11.21kiozenBabelo_n800: screeny!!!
13:13.08lamahttp://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/268599/the-htc-kaiser-6-1-performance-update-is-here/
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13:34.10mistadmanlama: Thanks for the info!
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13:52.27cr2kiozen: http://members.shaw.ca/mmontour/satscan/
13:52.55cr2http://openmoko.togaware.com/survivor/SatScan.html
13:53.42kiozencr2: lol curses comes into my mind
13:54.36cr2lol. he could have used color ncurses
13:54.44kiozenthat reminds me that I wanted to improve the sat screen of M
13:55.12kiozenfilled bars for fix, line bars for no fix
13:55.25cr2you may also add some indicator that the port can't be opened.
13:55.37kiozenright
13:55.55cr2and a status line showing raw nmea. (with a checkbox, for debugging).
13:56.05lamalooks like fallen dungeon from nethack :P
13:56.12cr2lol
13:56.30cr2lama: ncurses rules.
13:56.39kiozencr2: hm, don't know if users want to see that, qDebug() to console shozuld be ok
13:57.08cr2kiozen: many wince gps tools do that.
13:58.18cr2i have a similar pita with roadmap on wince. because it's too unix-like for gps uart control/debugging ;)
13:58.25lamaProblem report: I've turned GPS on and then saw Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die...
13:58.28lama:P
13:58.53lamacr2: I like ncurses I browse a lot with elinks
13:59.46lamaI would like to have native elinks on my phone (would be better than opera mini)
13:59.50cr2vt52 original pacman ncurses port will be nice :-)
14:00.05cr2it's written in vax assembler.
14:00.05lama0verkill is nice :P
14:00.39cr2yes.
14:01.10miknixcr2, do you have any info about the HTC touch cruise?
14:01.17miknixcr2, a friend of mine has one
14:01.38lamahttp://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~brain/0verkill/index.cgi?mainpage#screenshots 0verkill is bloody 2D action deathmatch-like game in ASCII-ART running under Linux, OS/2 and Windows. :P
14:02.10miknixcr2, AFAIK it has a qualcomm with 400Mh.. linux should run beautifully there
14:02.13kiozenholly shit!
14:03.29cr2miknix: isn't it some titan/vogue-style phone ?
14:03.38cr2miknix: is t a 7500 or 7200 cpu ?
14:03.49miknixcr2, 7200
14:04.25cr2miknix: compare with kaiser.
14:04.33miknixcr2, ok thanks
14:05.27cr2miknix: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap
14:05.52cr2miknix: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserResearch
14:06.13cr2dcordes: are you alive ?
14:12.48cr2lama: how will it look like at 240x240 ?
14:15.25kiozencr2: as disgusting as with 400x640 :P
14:20.38lama0verkill? ugly, maybe with really small fonts in Xterm
14:21.39cr2kiozen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT52
14:23.31kiozenfrom the times a computer looked like an office chair...
14:26.53lamaoh it's mobile :P
14:30.50dcordescr2: semi
14:32.18dcordes16:01 < miknix> cr2, a friend of mine has one <- same here
14:32.26dcordeswill be able to test builds and stuff
14:32.40dcordestouch cruise==polaris
14:34.30cr2dcordes: ok, so it's kaiser without the keyboard.
14:35.28dcordesaccording to the smem?
14:35.31cr2dcordes: i've looked at the latest patch by dzo, he describes some new 0xfc0000 areas (as not working) for msm_proc_comm() and sound/vibra
14:35.33dcordesor also other elements
14:35.38cr2dcordes: smem
14:35.55dcordesdoes it have smae ram?
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14:36.04dcordess/smae/same/
14:36.05cr2yes
14:36.49dcordescr2: do you have the dzo link around? it's on a different machine
14:41.27dcordesok it's in the forums
14:42.16dcordescr2: we should first have the AT send working. you told me it's easy and all but I still don't know what head and tail to set
14:43.12miknixnice
14:43.29miknixI'll talk to my friend cause he is interested in running android there
14:43.41miknix400Mhz is plenty of power for java :p
14:43.49dcordesmiknix: we definetly need a working angstrom x11 image he can forget android because we can't test anything w/o the keyboard or any sort of networking
14:44.08dcordesa nice console with TS input
14:44.45dcordesunfortunately I didn't manage to boot one x11-image yet. They are getting  heavy when extracted
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14:50.21cr2dcordes: xserver+fvwm does not take so much space. you must have a lot of bloatware in your x11-image
14:50.58dcordeshm
14:51.09dcordesinfernix: had a stripped down one but that doesn't boot either here
14:51.36infernixit did
14:51.41dcordesnot there
14:51.45infernixoh
14:51.59dcordesdid you get a windowmanager?
14:52.02infernixwell i managed to run x but it froze
14:52.15dcordesI didn't get further as 100%
14:52.35infernixand that was just Xfb sever
14:52.37infernix*server
14:52.44infernixwith the -videoTest option
14:53.38cr2BabelO: are there better sdio docs ? http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/RFC-MMC-driver-model-ftopict365237.html
14:56.07dcordesinfernix: initrd-xdadev-x1127-Apr-2008 initrd-xdadev-x1127-Apr-2008 27-Apr-2008 01:43 initrd-xdadev-x1127-Apr-2008  16M
14:56.14dcordesare we both talking about this image?
14:56.32infernixhttp://dx.infernix.net/kaiser/initrd-xdadev-x11
14:56.47dcordesok it didn't boot here one time
14:56.58dcordescould you try and throw even more stuff over board?
14:57.51infernixhardly
14:58.00infernixits 16mb
14:58.04infernixwhat else is there to strip
14:58.15cr2dcordes: who sets the TX head and tail in android ?
14:59.37dcordescr2: I assumed that was set in the *-smd.c all the time. I didn't try it one time w/ android
15:01.15cr2dcordes: there should be some kernel mechanism for setting these values. can you grep for it ?
15:04.30dcordescr2: the *-smd.c are full of them
15:05.17dcordeshttp://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/kaiser-smd.c;h=a6bc694de468fd62db072974a89925380321e699;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm
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15:08.22dcordescr2: dzo patch does a arch/arm/mach-msm/android_keyboard.c
15:08.41dcordesI don't understand why google confuses kernel and userland so heavily
15:10.20dcordesbbiab
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15:15.07cr2dcordes: you obviously didn't look too much at the "commercial" linux code. they'll put all kinds of junk into the kernel to meet a deadline.
15:18.15majorburnlike web servers
15:23.22cr2majorburn: http://www.fenrus.demon.nl/
15:24.16majorburn(that was my point)
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15:26.36cr2/* how many bytes we are free to write */
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15:27.35cr2dcordes: maybe you need to apply some gpios to reset the arm9 AT interpreter
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16:19.19BabelOcr2: so it is really close to pcmcia, i ll look if i can adapt my acx_cs driver, according to the libertas wifi driver
16:20.13BabelOcr2: ctw, any idea, why chip id 0x10 on i2c give random values ? bad power ? or an opendrain mode ?
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16:27.43cr2BabelO: what is the i2c_id of the fm chip ?
16:28.24BabelOdon't know, i m looking at the doc right know, i have activated gpio 0x7c to see chip 0x10
16:28.45BabelOcr2: and you name it related to fm
16:38.19BabelOcr2: no information :(
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17:03.12BabelOola kiozen
17:03.45BabelOkiozen: i m looking at M now, i just see where you have png button, and size ... how to you want i implement a new layout ?
17:05.00kiozenBabelO: take CKeysFourButton as example
17:05.15kiozenBabelO derive a new class from IKeys
17:05.19BabelOkiozen: yes i ve open it, i know what to do in .
17:05.24BabelOah ok
17:06.11kiozenBabelO: eye candy goes to src/keys
17:06.43BabelOyes already seen, i m in gimp :)
17:07.33kiozenBabelO and in IWidget::IWidget(..) you have to probe for the screensize (don't know how) and to load the correct key class
17:08.30kiozenBabelO CKeysSoftMenu is as failed attempt to be nice to qpe :)
17:09.15kiozenBabelO that's it
17:11.56BabelOok
17:12.07BabelOand for the information ?
17:12.31BabelOkiozen: sorry another question, can you fix transparence export in GT ?
17:21.56kiozenBabelO what information?
17:22.15BabelOkiozen: the dialog on top with coordinate
17:22.20kiozenok
17:23.04kiozenBabelO CInfoScreen no base class, dooooh...
17:23.14kiozenBabelO you have to make one :)
17:23.27BabelOrooh :)
17:24.06kiozenBabelO it's instatiated in CCanvas::CCanvas(..)
17:24.59kiozenBabelO it's all cr2 fault, he was pushing me to do gps fast, thus I did it the dirty way :)
17:25.15BabelOlol
17:25.21kiozenthinks it's always good to blame someone else :)))
17:30.51BabelOkiozen: interesting -> ::execute("pidof qpe")
17:31.44kiozengoxboxlive and tsdogs where discussing it, I found it in the logs :)
17:32.24cr2kiozen: lol, you mean "without using gpsd" ? :)
17:32.47kiozen??
17:32.54kiozenah ok :)
17:33.55cr2"I did it the dirty way :)"
17:34.40kiozencr2: yes but that as nothing to do with or wothout gpsd, it's more the way how the info screen is integrated into M
17:34.46cr2BabelO: have you added si4705 to wiki ?
17:34.53kiozencr2: adn that is a bit sloppy :)
17:34.53cr2kiozen: i'm joking
17:35.06cr2BabelO: i'll look into the datasheet.
17:35.38cr2kiozen: the apm on n560 does not work. i've seen it yesterday. but the battery voltage is measured.
17:35.49cr2kiozen: and the charging should work.
17:36.16cr2it seems there is no detailed w1 monitoring on this device.
17:36.28kiozencr2: it's not working because of the cheesy oe image or because of wiered hw?
17:37.14kiozencr2 "w1 monitoring" that means?
17:37.24BabelOcr2: no, because not sure this 0x10 is that, icant confirm dur to the random values
17:38.13cr2kiozen: the hardware is done this way. wince does not show the battery current and temperature too.
17:38.38BabelOkiozen: what's your qtopiamake command line ?
17:38.39cr2kiozen: w1 is onewire bus. used for the monitoring sensors
17:38.56kiozencr2: what about the battery live?
17:39.06BabelOkiozen: isn't  a CONFIG_ ... to pass ?
17:39.23kiozenBabelO yes moment...
17:39.43cr2kiozen: i was logged over usb in for 3 hours yesterday. at least it was working :)
17:39.45BabelOkiozen: i got it
17:40.04kiozenBabelO ok :)
17:40.29cr2kiozen: the wm8750 is used by a lot of devices, including many zaurus machines.
17:40.43kiozencr2:  but there must be some feedback about the battery fill level
17:41.06cr2kiozen: the ADC measures some voltage.
17:41.13p3t3r__damn, my sdhc seems to be close to death... superblock is damaged
17:41.27cr2p3t3r__: there are many backup copies.
17:42.00kiozencr2: ok can that be used? and what would "battery current and temperature" be good for?
17:43.03cr2battery current (integrated) is used for measuring battery charge
17:43.13p3t3r__cr2: sure, the problem is that i hate defected hardware ;)
17:43.30cr2q=\int i dt
17:45.21kiozencr2 while charging or decharging?
17:46.03cr2kiozen: both
17:46.20kiozencr2: hm, that sounds bad
17:46.31cr2usually there is also a eeprom in the battery with some useful data.
17:47.02cr2unless you buy some fake chinese stuff.
17:47.31cr2see ds276x
17:47.50kiozencr2:  thus how do we get a battery live value to tell the user?
17:49.19cr2BabelO: 0011
17:49.22cr2is 3
17:51.01cr2kiozen: you should deal with the battery voltage decline or increase. the li-ion battery has 4.2V nominal voltage being fully charged
17:51.34cr2kiozen: and at 3.5-3.7V universal shuts down.
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17:51.50p3t3r__fixed my superblock ;) didn't work in universal, but my pc did it :)
17:52.05cr2i've recorded the voltage/current curves with 'powermon'
17:52.07BabelOkiozen: switching from C to C++ give :
17:52.08cr2in wince
17:52.10BabelOkiozen: undefined reference to `CKeysSmallButton::CKeysSmallButton(IWidget*)'
17:52.29BabelOcr2: i ve nothiing at id 3 when i power up fm gpios
17:52.39BabelOcr2: only this id 10 appear
17:52.59cr2BabelO: it's only 1 part of the address, i need to read further.
17:53.07BabelOkiozen: ok found bug
17:53.15cr2BabelO: can you enable the radio in wince ?
17:53.32kiozenBabelO *.cpp not in *pro file?
17:53.44BabelOkiozen: yes :)
17:53.47kiozenlol
17:53.54BabelOkiozen: ok can make a test :)
17:54.05BabelOcr2: enable radio ?
17:54.45cr2yes
17:54.46kiozencr2: ok, let's if we can get some usefull feedback from that. A good powerstatus is important
17:54.52cr2BabelO: it can't be 0x10
17:55.36cr2kiozen: look what other devices do (pda_power). not everybody can measure the current.
17:55.47BabelOcr2: if you mean fm radio, then yes,
17:56.05cr2BabelO: sorry
17:56.09cr2the 2-wire mode
17:56.23cr20010000
17:56.30cr2is 0x10
17:56.35kiozencr2: ok we will see :)
17:57.02BabelOcr2: ah ok, so it seem good, just need to find why wrong values, maybe bus speed
17:57.36cr2BabelO: write to the usb-si470x driver people.
17:58.00BabelOcr2: ok
17:58.07cr2i think the changes will be minimal, you only need to set the right gpio values.
17:58.55cr2BabelO: the 0x0 register is device_id
18:00.37BabelOcr2: yes i look at driver, and change is minimal once i can dialog with device
18:05.18cr2BabelO: you can scan from 76 to 108MHz with 50K step :)
18:06.13cr2i think we have a TV channel at around 76
18:06.31cr2so you'll be able to see some tv sound too :)
18:06.35BabelOlol, not here
18:07.24BabelOkiozen: any idea to get screensize in qtopia ?
18:07.31BabelO~ping lpotter
18:07.31aptpong lpotter
18:07.37cr2BabelO: it's a good idea to dump all registers in wince, but i don't know how to do it.
18:07.58kiozenBabelO: nope, a environment variable maybe?
18:07.59BabelOcr2: only thing i have is the dump i send to you
18:08.22BabelOkiozen: i think it is a QApplication
18:08.24cr2BabelO: something like devioctl("i2c1:",...)
18:08.36cr2BabelO: pick the fb size
18:08.53cr2qtopia runs as root :)
18:09.06kiozenBabelO QtopiaApplication
18:09.36cr2BabelO: /dev/rds
18:09.38BabelOkiozen: else QScreen
18:10.11BabelOcr2: yes i hope i can see some TMC traffic on it ... it is just RDS register with all trame, i ve a doc about each trame
18:10.37kiozenBabelO QScreen has height and width
18:10.39cr2BabelO: you know how to decode rds ?
18:11.04BabelOkiozen: yes screenSize() retrieve from fb
18:11.33BabelOcr2: yes i ve done an old student project decoding rds with pic16F84
18:11.39cr2ok.
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18:15.11BabelOkiozen: hmm have to ask somewhere
18:15.54kiozenBabelO "Mouse Calibration Example" talks about it, but it does not say where to get it :(
18:16.17kiozenqtopia dox has still a long way to go ...
18:17.52kiozenBabelO guess qt_screen is some global qtopia var.
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18:22.34kiozenhm, osm people start to develop a http server from scratch :/
18:22.59kiozensometimes I question their sanity..
18:26.32dcordescr2: hm gpios to reset the arm9 at interpreter you say? If needed, wouldn't something similar be in dzo's vogue code?
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18:55.51cr2kiozen: i'm interested who is paying for the wasteful technology producing an enormous amount of useless ip traffic. i guess yahoo.
18:56.38kiozenhuh?
18:56.48kiozenyou mean osm?
18:57.06cr2yes.
18:57.44cr2kiozen: there was a time when 90% of the .osm file was <tag k='created_by' value='JOSM' />
18:58.05cr2don't know how much it's now.
18:58.56BabelO<PROTECTED>
18:59.58kiozenBabelO: I define their QRect and center the text / icon into that QRect
19:01.24kiozencr2: http://pastebin.ca/1027296
19:01.35kiozencr2: let's hope it's not raining
19:02.47cr2kiozen: lol. wait for the postings that the server should use ruby on rails :)
19:03.00kiozenLOL
19:08.37cr2kiozen: another thing i enjoy about osm is the xsl .osm parser that produces .svg to be converted into .png with inkscape.
19:09.19BabelOkiozen: look better :) have to move some info now
19:09.33kiozencr2: you have to love them :)
19:11.02cr2kiozen: i'm there since 2005. it's an unbelievably incompetent, but funny community :)
19:12.47kiozencr2:  I definetly adore their einthusiasm
19:13.39kiozencr2: have you read today's article about osm in heise.de?
19:21.15cr2kiozen: yes.
19:21.59kiozencr2: from the quality of that article: they even write theri own articles :)
19:22.29cr2kiozen: i still remember drawing A1, when there was really nothing there.
19:22.38cr2lol
19:23.01kiozenIn the beginning there was: the A1
19:23.10cr2:)
19:24.08cr2kiozen: for certain areas google can have a break.
19:25.24kiozenI should add osm track transfer to osm via modem in M
19:26.01cr2it's a good idea.
19:26.36kiozenyes, on day after I have done my http server and get bored...
19:26.57cr2;)
19:27.09kiozencr2:  did you test the live log feature in GT?
19:28.31kiozenI am adding now a backup of the live track to hdd. That's what is needed in M, too.
19:30.38cr2kiozen: no, i'm only hacking around n560 recently.
19:31.06kiozengood boy :)
19:31.40kiozenmaybe I can test it in the Dolomities at end of July
19:31.44kiozen:)
19:32.22kiozenbut for that I should rugg it up first
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19:45.57cr2miknix: the wizard status page at wiki.*.sf.net looks outdated ?
19:52.16BabelOkiozen: how can i draw icon of infoscreen out of the window ?
19:52.51kiozenBabelO: don't understand
19:53.16BabelOkiozen: wait i show you :)
19:59.07miknixcr2, yeah.. a little
20:01.09BabelOkiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/screen.png
20:02.32kiozenBabelO: so where do you want to draw the icons?
20:02.48kiozennext to the buttons?
20:02.50BabelObottom right :)
20:03.17BabelOkiozen: but in CInfo, parent is the rec
20:04.31kiozenBabelO just do it, CInfoScreen is no widget, just an object, the QPainter is the painter of the canvas
20:04.50kiozenBabelO thus if you know the canvas size you can place the icons where you want
20:05.03BabelOah, strange
20:06.13kiozenBabelO: well as qtopia insists to place big green titlebars to widtgets, I had to do my own way of widget system :)
20:07.03kiozenthink of the info screen as OSD
20:08.03kiozenM is a huge pile of frameless, stacked widgets, with some OSD components
20:09.43kiozenBabelO but looks nice so far :) you can skip the battery icon when in qpe, but you need it for -qws
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20:10.58kiozenBabelO and there has to be some m/km switching (and feet/miles one day, too)
20:13.05BabelOkiozen: that what i want to do, i need to think how to place coord alues now
20:13.21kiozenI know
20:14.39kiozenBabelO but wouldn't they fit if the alt and heading is moved to the right and the icons to the right bottom?
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20:35.18BabelOcr2: so you found g4_2 registers ? :)
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21:38.21cr2BabelO: suse103 xserver crashed again.
21:38.48BabelO:( no problem for me with nvidia driver
21:38.52BabelOcr2: use vesa :)
21:40.32BabelOcr2: do you have a haret to decode cpld dialog ?
21:40.53cr2BabelO: g4_2 has +0x12 and +0x114 regs
21:40.58cr2decode cpld ?
21:41.39BabelOcr2: yes i have cpld movement when sound occur, but not able to decode
21:44.42BabelOcr2:
21:44.44BabelOhttp://pastebin.ca/1027440
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21:47.50miknixKevin3, ping
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21:51.13cr2BabelO: modify the .py file
21:51.24cr2BabelO: look at hermes
21:51.42BabelOcr2: ok
21:51.58BabelOcr2: if you want me to test some g4 experiment, tell me :)
21:54.53BabelOcr2: ok i see py no :)
21:55.27cr2BabelO: can you mmutrace the g4 ?
21:55.36cr2register area
21:56.18BabelOyes ,tell me where 0x0 +12 width 0x200 ?
21:59.45BabelOcr2: no not possible,
22:01.54cr2BabelO: 0x201000 + 0x1000
22:04.48BabelOcr2: nothing appear
22:05.04cr2ok.
22:05.18cr20x201000 size 0x1000 ?
22:15.03BabelOcr2: no
22:17.00martin__dcordes: update on the serial stuff
22:17.43martin__i traced onwards from that console switching message
22:18.05martin__which comes from drivers/char/vt.c
22:18.17martin__and is invoked, ultimately, by fb_console_init
22:18.50martin__which completes okay
22:18.52martin__so
22:19.19martin__either msm_serial_init comes next and isn't even getting as far as getting executed
22:19.50martin__or there's something in between that breaks if the msm serial port is in the platform device list.
22:20.23martin__i'm not sure where the actual loop is that calls all the init functions
22:20.31martin__in this newfangled driver model
22:20.47martin__so any tips on that from anybody welcome
22:22.18martin__but for now, goodnight...
22:29.34cr2BabelO: hmm. these were decimal offsets.
22:30.05BabelOcr2: ah :)
22:30.17BabelOcr2: i think i found a new clock :)
22:30.27cr2but there are still some strange things there.
22:30.33cr2which one ?
22:33.02cr2408:   e59f0248        ldr     r0, [pc, #584]  ; 0x658 --> 0x0000020e
22:33.33cr2but this is impossible
22:33.35cr220c:   e59f0418        ldr     r0, [pc, #1048] ; 0x62c --> 0xff80f0f3
22:33.36cr2<PROTECTED>
22:36.24BabelOcr2: silething i2c related
22:40.08cr2ok
22:40.26cr2why is it not seen in spl ?
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22:42.42BabelOcr2: don't know, but it is strange not the same for camera and radio, so maybe it is not i2c but device
22:48.17cr2BabelO: which register is that ?
22:48.25cr2BabelO: what is eors ?
22:48.41BabelOcr2: 0xfffe0834 PCC_UPLD
22:49.04BabelOeors ?
22:49.24cr2EOR arm asm
22:49.33BabelOExclusive OR
22:49.37BabelOXOR
22:50.12cr2ok.
22:52.16cr2eors r6,r6,r0
22:53.02cr2ok, r6 is BIPO
22:53.19cr20x4F504942
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22:54.18cr2strange way of reading data.
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23:11.38BabelOcr2: crypto ?
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23:14.57marexhello
23:15.06marexno blackmailing please
23:49.41Kevin3miknix: pong
23:49.56miknixKevin3, hi.
23:50.26Kevin3Hello
23:50.32miknixKevin3, the htc-bbkeys input driver works on wizard
23:51.08Kevin3The driver I wrote?  Cool!
23:51.13miknixyeah
23:51.17miknixKevin3, however I'm not being able to set cpld bits
23:51.41Kevin3huh?  You can't set the gpios on the bbkeys chip?
23:51.53miknixkind of
23:52.55miknixKevin3, ignoring the gpios interface for now.. using the bbkeys_write() function doesnt work
23:53.55Kevin3miknix: What's wrong with it?
23:54.34miknixI change cpld bits on address I know that should turn leds on.. and nothing happens
23:55.04miknixKevin3, this is how I'm trying to test the driver: http://pastebin.com/d27363058
23:55.15miknixis there any obvious error there?
23:56.10miknixKevin3, echo "r 3" > /sys/devices/platform/htc-bbkeys/cpldio
23:56.10Kevin3miknix: Can you pastebin the diff?
23:58.05miknixKevin3, http://pastebin.com/d295e3c2e
23:59.22Kevin3miknix: I don't know much about the sysfs stuff.  What are you trying to write?

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