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01:08.37paulproteusexco, Hey - talk to you tomorrow.
01:48.26Kevin2miknix: pong
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06:03.51paulproteusexc1, Good morning.
06:03.55paulproteusI'm finally trying this image I made.
06:03.59paulproteusI'm untarring it right now.
06:04.07exc1Good morning
06:05.14exc1we'll I hope it works - although that would mean I'm a total incapable :-)
06:05.29paulproteusHah (-:
06:05.33paulproteusWell I hope to reproduce your failures I suppose.
06:06.21exc1the touchscreen seems to be working fine - at least if I run ts_calibrate using ssh
06:06.28paulproteusOh, huh!
06:06.40paulproteusBTW I'll see if I can bitbake x2x. (-:
06:06.52paulproteusOh, man, I'm going to have to change unstable.makesad.us's SSH key.
06:07.01exc1ipkg would also be nice
06:07.06paulproteusDid you read about the Debian security bug?  You're going to have to generate a new key too...
06:07.13exc1yes
06:07.31exc1at least in passing
06:08.52paulproteusBasically, you should really make a new SSH key.
06:10.00paulproteusI'm going to change the key on that vserver right now, so you'll also have to remove the cached host key from your system.
06:10.33exc1I'll generate a new one and paste it somewhere
06:10.45paulproteusCool.  http://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys has more info.
06:13.49exc1http://pastebin.com/m4352e95e
06:14.35paulproteusexc1, Actually you can add that yourself in your user's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys by SSHing in to unstable.makesad.us.
06:14.47paulproteusBe sure to remove your other one.
06:14.49exc1sure
06:16.14BabelOhi
06:16.19paulproteusHey now BabelO.
06:17.00exc1hi
06:19.15paulproteusD'oh, I forgot to untar as root.
06:19.19paulproteusredoes it
06:21.35paulproteusAlso, I did find a guy I can borrow a Neo battery from; it remains to be seen if the Neo has battery life good enough to make it actually worth using, though.
06:22.17exc1bbl
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07:29.23dcordeswoooooooooooooooohoo
07:44.59dcordesbaca exams finished
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07:51.29booxter_dcordes: hello! I read in irc logs that you were going to make i2c-tools bitbake file. Have you already done it?
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07:59.49dcordesbooxter_: no that was not me but I can do this
08:00.03dcordesor wait possibly. no I didn't but thanks for the reminder
08:00.23dcordesbooxter_: can you give me the official source url?
08:00.29dcordesdirectly from the projet
08:00.34booxter_http://dl.lm-sensors.org/i2c-tools/releases/i2c-tools-3.0.1.tar.bz2
08:00.37booxter_here it is
08:00.38dcordesthanks
08:00.48booxter_it's a simple 'make' project
08:00.51dcordesdoes it use automake stuffs?
08:01.16booxter_i would do it by myself, but I just don't know where to start with .bb
08:01.20dcordesbooxter_: can you hint me on what you do to compile it?
08:01.31booxter_just 'make'
08:01.33booxter_and all
08:01.34dcordesI can do this you help me with how to compile it normally
08:01.35Zooloocmorning
08:01.44dcordesbooxter_: make, make install?
08:02.12booxter_yes, make install too
08:02.40Zooloochey, dcordes, wouldn't it be nice to include a default config for the Kaiser kernel under the respective directory in the git tree?
08:02.49dcordesyou simply but an "inherit module" iirc
08:02.56dcordesis it a module?
08:03.05booxter_no
08:03.09dcordesZoolooc: good idea thanks
08:03.09booxter_it's just utils
08:03.17dcordesinherit autotools then
08:03.21booxter_no kernel deps
08:06.21dcordesbooxter_: did you cross build this before?
08:06.27booxter_yes
08:07.09dcordesdoes makefile need any patching or something else?
08:07.38dcordesbooxter_:
08:08.45dcordesNOTE: package i2c-tools-3.0.1: Succeeded
08:08.46booxter_ow, yes, there is a CC veriable hardcoded
08:08.55dcordesit built fine
08:09.08booxter_ow, fine
08:09.11dcordesERROR: runstrip: ''arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-strip' --remove-section=.comment --remove-section=.note '/media/archiv/OE/org.openembedded.dev/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/i2c-tools-3.0.1-r0/image/usr/local/sbin/i2cdump'' strip command failed
08:09.16dcordesany clue what dis is?
08:09.54dcordescooment doesn't look to important to me
08:10.02booxter_don't know
08:10.09dcordesnevermind let's just try it
08:10.11booxter_manually all goes welll
08:10.14dcordesbooxter_: what's your target arch?
08:10.31booxter_arm ep9307
08:10.39dcordeserrrr that is armv?
08:11.05dcordes5?
08:11.29booxter_armv4t
08:11.58dcordeskk
08:12.07booxter_?
08:12.11dcordesyou got an angstrom install?
08:12.15dcordeson your device
08:12.20dcordesor moko or whatever
08:12.28booxter_poky it is
08:12.34dcordesipkg or opkg?
08:12.37booxter_ipkg
08:12.49dcordes2008.1 does still make ipk I think
08:13.09dcordeswhat's your poky release? pinky?
08:13.38booxter_pre-3.1
08:13.48booxter_few days before official release
08:14.04dcordesanyway you got the buildsystem locally?
08:14.14dcordesie reachable
08:14.37booxter_yeah
08:15.07dcordesin your metadata directory create a file packages/i2-tools/i2c-tools_3.0.1.bb
08:15.32booxter_yeap
08:15.50dcordeshttp://rafb.net/p/PtEB7176.txt put this in
08:15.55dcordesrun bitbake i2-tools
08:16.06dcordess/i2-tools/i2c-tools/
08:16.22dcordestest ipk, report back
08:16.23dcordesbrb
08:17.03booxter_I can't beleave that it's SO small ;-\
08:17.05booxter_:)
08:17.31booxter_I think I should go some research on the BB regard :-/
08:17.35booxter_built fine
08:17.41booxter_thank you so much
08:19.06dcordescool look for the ipk and test. Can you provide me with a one line description in one sentence?
08:19.17dcordeswill let people push it to OE
08:21.05booxter_"heterogeneous set of I2C tools for Linux"
08:21.12booxter_wait, I'll test ipk
08:22.36dcordesno magic in openembedded
08:22.54dcordesbut it's not the usual case that it works directly
08:23.06dcordesthat's why I asked for makefile patching before
08:23.13dcordesyou often need to alter cross compile bits
08:26.44booxter_ow, wait. there is no i2c-tools package
08:26.53booxter_only -dev and -dbg
08:27.41booxter_if I specify in my 'image' bitbake i2c-tools then it fails because there is no such package found
08:27.42dcordes./armv5te/i2c-tools-dbg_3.0.1-r0_armv5te.ipk
08:27.43dcordes./armv5te/i2c-tools-dev_3.0.1-r0_armv5te.ipk
08:27.51dcordesyea noticed that
08:28.14dcordeshm so I guess we need to specify packaging instructions
08:28.16booxter_and -dev depends on i2c-tools that are absent
08:28.32dcordesok can't care about this now sorry ask #oe pls
08:28.43booxter_should we specify "PACKAGE" variable?
08:28.47booxter_ow, sorry
08:28.50booxter_FILES
08:29.04dcordesgive them your .bb and explain what happens maybe paste build log
08:29.17booxter_ok, tnx you
08:29.24booxter_I'll do it by myself I think
08:30.39dcordesgood luck can you ping me when you made it work?
08:30.47booxter_yeah, of course
08:30.48dcordesI will take care of pushing it
08:30.59dcordesto OE at least. poky devs will decide what to do with it
08:31.19booxter_poky doesn't matter ;)
08:31.25dcordesyea copy paste
08:31.42dcordesthey won't include it in their metadata anyway that's not the aim of poky
08:31.47dcordeswhat is your device btw?
08:32.58booxter_godotdb
08:33.50dcordessounds funny
08:34.05booxter_:-)
08:34.19dcordeswtf is that?
08:34.40dcordesdoes it have any sacral purpose?
08:34.43booxter_I know. Google doesn't tells too much
08:34.48dcordesnothing
08:35.07booxter_it's a development board
08:35.23booxter_we're preparing a 'intellectual house' control
08:35.30dcordes1320 godotdb                 MACH_GODOTDB            GODOTDB                 1314
08:35.44dcordesthat's nasty
08:36.14dcordesgoogle doesn't spit much about most evaluation/development boards
08:36.28dcordeshad no luck looking for halibut specs either
08:36.55dcordesbooxter_: is we your company or private entity?
08:44.19booxter_somehow I have only russian overview of the project. The board is a custom one.
08:49.22dcordesbooxter_: means you had it soldered together just for your project?
08:51.02booxter_ow, maybe i'm not quiet well in english but... what does 'you... souldered' mean?
08:52.38dcordesbooxter_: soldering is when you put electronic components together
08:53.00dcordesI mean did they make the godotdb board just for your project?
08:56.07booxter_we've done it
08:57.20dcordescool. do you have some sort of website?
08:59.38booxter_promwad.com
09:01.04booxter_belarusian company it is
09:05.44dcordeslooks like you do lots of embedded stuffs
09:06.25booxter_yeap
09:08.40booxter_that's maybe the only sphere we're working in
09:16.30BabelO_Anybody can told be the encoding charset for bulgarian in XML
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10:02.04booxter_dcordes: http://rafb.net/p/mwbqO666.html
10:02.21booxter_I know it's weird indeed:)
10:02.54booxter_how can we do CC substitution a little bit more eye-candy?
10:02.57dcordesbooxter_: I think the usual way would be to provide a .diff and set it as SRC_URI
10:03.18dcordesrather then using sed but if it works, why not
10:03.32booxter_hm, it's not I think. I've seen such sed substitutions in another packages already
10:03.40dcordesok super
10:04.00dcordesI did not understand your question regarding eye-candy
10:04.22booxter_ow, you see, there are those \t and spaces in sed-command
10:04.33booxter_rather weird I think
10:04.50dcordesI'm not a sed guru :)
10:04.56booxter_mine too :)
10:05.05dcordesI'm no guru at all lol
10:05.17dcordesI will suggest your .bb for commit in the OE bugtracker
10:05.29booxter_so I think you can try to push it upstream and then someone will change it if it really sucks
10:07.52dcordesyea if it works will be all good
10:08.35booxter_ow wait
10:08.44booxter_that's a brute hack
10:08.49booxter_i just realized:))
10:09.21booxter_I've hardcoded CC...
10:12.27dcordesok paste change if you got bbl
10:15.12booxter_dcordes: http://rafb.net/p/a6Mvf717.html
10:15.14booxter_that is
10:16.35zooloocdcordes, seen your post from few minutes ago with a new kaiser kernel build, worth trying it?
10:17.06zooloocdcordes: is it currently possible to reboot the device from android or from the console, without removing the battery?
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10:35.14zooloochi dzo
10:36.14zooloocdzo: do you know where one can get an updated android initrd, or how to customize it, is there a tutorial or something?
10:37.23dzoIt's a gzipped cpio archive. look at the tools for making an initrd for linux.
10:37.38dzoi.e. mkinitrd.
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10:53.50dcordes_marbalon: ping
10:54.49booxter_dcordes_: can you provide me with a link on openembedded bugzilla?
10:55.16booxter_(I mean on i2c-tools bug)
10:55.42dcordes_booxter_: I did not create it yet. Just hand me your updated bb and I will post
10:55.59booxter_http://rafb.net/p/a6Mvf717.html
10:56.14booxter_I thought you've seen it:)
10:56.24dcordes_oh sorry didn't check the log I'm on different machine
10:58.28dcordes_zoolooc: not really. It only has jogwheel added.
10:58.55dcordes_use gunzip, then cpio to extract the rootfs
11:02.49dcordeszoolooc: I do the extract/modify/compress as root
11:04.02dcordesonce extracted and modified use "find ./ | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > ../initrd" inside the extracted filesystem's rootdir in order to create in the above folder a ready to use initrd called initrd
11:04.13dcordeswhich obviously is a .cpio.gz file
11:05.47marbalondcordes: pong.
11:06.49marbalonbrb (15min).
11:25.24marbalondcordes: ok, I'm back.
11:26.46dcordesmarbalon: good timing. now I have to leave :) tried anything with smd write?
11:27.15marbalondcordes: no, to busy  :(
11:27.39dcordesok see you
11:27.42dcordesbbl
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11:43.51miknixKevin2, ping
12:04.40dcordesmarbalon: re
12:05.41dcordesmarbalon: our test friends in the xda forum are not amused about the ok button being remapped. they can't find a way to quit the applications
12:05.54dcordeswe need to keep them happy :)
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12:09.26marbalonhmm, PAD_CENTER = OK, PAD_OK = Back
12:10.32marbalonso if you want quit form app you press PAD OK
12:10.47zooloocfolks, can a kaiser which booted linux with haret be reset or shut down without removing the battery? what when using the android initrd?
12:12.37dcordeszoolooc: see the thread. I mentioned earlier that the reset button works again, also explaining why it didn't before
12:23.26marbalondcordes: back to smd driver
12:25.15marbalondcordes: why do you comment out ch->read = smd_stream_read; in smd_open() function
12:25.18marbalon?
12:27.27marbalondcordes: I don't know how it works now, try to change offsets to my and we will see
12:29.17zooloocdcordes: alright, I found that post, so you mean the soft-reset button should work now, the only problem I have is that I cannot even boot, haret just stops at booting linux 100%, then I have to remove the battery...
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12:38.52dcordeszoolooc: maybe that is because you read the last post mentioning it doesn't boot anymore so you only tried once being convinced that something is broken?
12:39.01dcordes(just want to make sure :) )
12:41.43zooloocdcordes: tried now 5 times I think...
12:42.04zooloocis haret the problem with booting?
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12:51.01dcordeszoolooc: did you boot before?
12:51.05dcordeswith a different image
12:51.22dcordesI'm tired of booting today
12:54.51babelO_cr2: what was the i2c radio chip you found last day ?
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12:56.06marbalondcordes: read function works fine
12:56.55marbalonrun cat /dev/smd0 and call to my mobile num, get a lot of AT command on screen every one second
12:58.42marbalondcordes: I think write works fine to but notify_other_smd() doesn't works maybe MSM_CSR_BASE is wrong for our device
12:58.57dcordesmarbalon: oh thats a good idea with the calling
12:59.26dcordesI can't think today
12:59.54dcordesfinished last of my final school tests
13:00.15marbaloncongratulations
13:00.23dcordesthanks
13:00.28dcordesnow I have to wait for the results
13:00.38dcordesanyway no school anymore
13:01.31dcordesbecause we can read, dzo said the 3 in notify other struct is good
13:01.44zooloocdcordes: good on you
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13:02.07dcordesso I think that implies that we couldn't read withot the 3
13:02.42dcordesmarbalon: here is a line that writes to all m2a numbers instead of only 3 if you wanna try
13:03.05zooloocdcordes: yes, I've booted before, the linuxbox, the angstrom and the android initrd, with the old kernel image (also, they didn't boot every time). but now your latest kernel build does not boot, I also took the latest haret posted in the thread
13:03.41dcordes<PROTECTED>
13:03.50dcordesthis writes to numbers 7-16 at the same time obviously
13:03.54dcordeszoolooc: thanks
13:04.07marbalondcordes: you don't test it ?
13:04.13dcordesmarbalon: I did
13:04.33dcordescan not write even with the line. I also tried out 0-7 before
13:04.52dcordesand 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 but that is irrelevant because I had the mknod wrong
13:04.59dcordeswas a pretty mess of time
13:05.14dcordesactually I think it is not that. 3 is ok
13:05.21infernixxhi:)
13:05.25infernixxwe have modem on kaiser?
13:05.37dcordesdrop in right when thinks get fun eh :) :P
13:05.37infernixxwas out of the loop :)
13:05.46infernixxis easy
13:05.50infernixx:)
13:05.58dcordesj/k how are you?
13:06.04majorburnwas out of the loop...  the for (i=7;i<16;i++) loop?
13:06.25dcordesinfernixx: actually we can read, but not write.
13:06.47dcordeswe are that far, that when you cat the device you get a frequent refresh of signal strength
13:07.00infernixxim good. been working on some drupal sites, saw some videos of openembedded
13:07.00dcordesand as marbalon reports incoming call specific modem messages
13:07.49infernixxbut SD and wifi are still in the same state i guess
13:08.06dcordesyeeap
13:08.14dcordesany help appreaciated
13:08.18infernixxwish i could
13:08.23dcordesyea me too :)
13:08.25dcordesoutta clue
13:08.39dcordeshope one of the gurus will assist us
13:08.54dcordesprobably dzo will attack them when he finished hist extensions to the modem functionality
13:09.09dcordeshe told me he was working on the vogue to get calling to work
13:10.26dcordesmaybe he will come up with an idea on how to get the AT write to work
13:11.23zooloocdcordes: sounds like full linux support of the kaiser hardware is around the corner ;-)
13:11.30dcordestrue
13:12.01zoolooceverything, like gps, and also 3d graphics?
13:12.46dcordes3d depends entirely on how swetland SanMehat and their bosses deal with this
13:13.47zooloocmight be a closed source library
13:13.52dcordesyes
13:13.57dcordescr2: said this
13:14.45infernixx3d graphics drievr is just a library interface for userspace
13:14.55infernixxe.g. there is no actual code that does any graphics processing
13:15.02infernixxafaik, ymmv, $0.02
13:15.15zooloocas long as we can make it work, I don't care about philosophical points of views (I can also live with nvidia's closed source driver on my desktop and even sleep at night)
13:15.29infernixxthere is no such library in existance anywhere
13:15.31infernixxand even if it would
13:15.47dcordeszoolooc: ack I'm not an extremist
13:15.55infernixxit can never be distributed with linux
13:15.58zooloocstrabge, how come that android has support for opengl es?
13:16.26dcordesbinary or source, either way will call up hundreds of thouands onto the plan which is definetly positive regarding open source software use
13:17.51marbalondcordes: tested 0-7 and 7-16, no success :(
13:17.55dcordesI'm speaking of those lurking on graphical improvements vs. WM and those being pissed because they can't use their hardware they payed for
13:18.38marbalondcordes: need to check that WM do under haret
13:18.59marbalondcordes: *that = what
13:19.05dcordesmarbalon: I think we can't trace this. cr2 pointed me to the entries in kaiser irq page
13:20.16dcordeshttp://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ
13:20.51dcordeswhen you do a "wirq n" and deactivate and activate the phone you see that irq 1 and 2 are used when the phone is on
13:21.06infernixxdcordes: if there isnt a windows CE driver for the chip, how can it be reverse engineered into an open source driver?
13:21.11dcordes*Kaiser Function* are all comments I gained this way.
13:21.28dcordesinfernixx: man they have the manuals
13:21.45infernixxfor the 3d chip too? afaik that wasnt included
13:22.13dcordesmaybe it is an evil conspiracy
13:22.45dcordeshtc did not ship the imageon drivers for the wince roms because google payed them to keep them as a new feature for android
13:22.52dcordeslolol
13:23.07zooloocyou might be right, hehe :-D
13:23.34marbalondcordes: irqs works fine, we need to tell arm9 data is ready
13:23.53dcordesmarbalon: ah now I recall dzo said something about this ready stuff
13:24.10dcordesmarbalon: where in the code is this?
13:24.31marbalonwritel(1, MSM_A2M_INT(3+ch));
13:26.47dcordesinfernixx: maybe they still got a manual for this - why would they add the register support for the imageon if no driver was planned?
13:27.36infernixxpoint in case
13:27.54infernixxbut i thought there were patent issues and/or violations in the way
13:28.01infernixxanyway i don't think i need the 3d stuff anyways
13:28.11infernixxs/^anyway //g
13:30.01dcordesinfernixx: same here
13:30.43dcordesthat's not what I'm after but it would be a cute side effect since, as I pointed out earlier, it would focus the attention of thousands of device owners
13:30.57dcordeswhich in my eyes can't harm foss
13:31.02dcordes(on mobile devices)
13:32.17zooloocis it possible to have a SPL (maybe one that has yet to be written) dual boot the flashed WM or whatever provided on the storage card (maybe configurable via a standard config file located as well on the card), like even linux from an initrd, or later, from a partition of the card?
13:34.34dcordespH5 and co. kg are working on a bootloader
13:34.48dcordesI don't know in how far this affects kaiser and other msms
13:34.59dcordesI think it's a problematic topic because brickability is high
13:37.21zooloocyeah, such damn expensive bricks is not what we want...
13:39.33dcordesyea true kaiser is really (too) expensive
13:40.08dcordestimes get hard for us when the new vga prependers show up :)
13:40.23dcordesinfernixx: did you look at audio?
13:41.14cr2babelO_: drivers/media/radio/radio-si470x.c
13:42.10cr2babelO_: this is the usb driver, so you need some changes to turn it into i2c. and the gpios to switch si470x into i2c mode, look at the .pdf docs
13:43.25infernixxdcordes: no i haven't
13:43.59infernixxzoolooc: timed haret with autoboot off SD card works for me
13:44.19infernixxe.g. autostart a countdown app that counts down X seconds, then fires haret with a startup.txt
13:44.32infernixxits not straight to linux but at least it won't brick
13:45.10dcordesinfernixx: that's a pretty nice idea, w/ the startup.txt?
13:45.42infernixxim sure there's some app that can handle the countdown autostart thing
13:45.49zooloocinfernixx: what countdown app is that, and "X" seconds from which event? I could simply count the seconds myself and start haret, isnt'it?
13:46.50infernixxthe idea is that the auto countdown app starts automatically upon windows boot, then you can cancel haret startup up and until X seconds have passed. then it'll start
13:47.03infernixxif it doesnt exist, im sure someone can code it.
13:47.14infernixxor maybe it can be added to haret itself as an extra option in startup.txt
13:48.17zooloocalright, so you're suggesting a way of automating booting with haret, now I got you
13:48.47zooloocinfernixx: first I thought you've got a solution to the boot refusal
13:50.26zooloocthe thing I'm missing in the whole "booting linux with haret on kaiser" discussion is that it's not too deterministic, like some man page where exact parameters are described for a tool, in out case, some people report that hitting "listen for connections" helps, others think the WM or the radio version matters... maybe the haret version matters...
13:50.31dcordesI'm not too much worried yet about autobooting
13:51.05majorburnis power management functional?  ie: will keeping it on charge blow the battery?
13:51.25cr2majorburn: where ?
13:51.26zooloocneither am I, as a matter of fact, I'd like to be able to reliably boot even with haret gui
13:52.20majorburnnowhere specifically.  but the palm lifedrive linux doesnt manage the battery, so I was curious if there's similar plague for the htcs.  partial bsing and partial just conversing and just curiousity
13:52.54dcordesmajorburn: depends entirely on your board I'd say
13:53.23dcordeszoolooc: well lay back about the reliably.. we need SD driver anyway
13:53.53dcordestry booting w/ zImnage=1M+3M will boot every time
13:54.25dcordesbtw I posted a small console image with instructions in a titan thread in the xda forum and people say they can boot
13:54.44dcordesI don't know if that's any new but looking at the forum they had no success with titan before
13:54.59dcordescr2: don't we have titan owners on the channel?
13:55.44cr2majorburn: ba/uni/magician/sable have charging control
13:56.07cr2dcordes: the l33thax0r and ImCokeMan
13:57.49dcordeswell I hope I woke them up with the image and results
13:57.59dcordesmaybe one of them  will show up with some ideas
13:58.38dcordescr2: btw do you have an idea on what kaisers can try about AT write?
14:00.23cr2dcordes: i can think only repairing mmutrace for kaiser.
14:00.42cr2dcordes: on non-pxa cpus it's the only option to trace things.
14:01.23dcordescr2: what's so special about pxa regarding tracing?
14:01.53dcordeshopes Kevin2 has an idea about how to fix the mmutrace
14:02.07dcordesnow that you guys are aware of the secret documents
14:02.18dcordesdzo came up with
14:02.47majorburni want to mirror all these documents publically :P
14:04.13dcordesthe one I just alluded to is public
14:04.27dcordesI think it details on the msm smem stuffs
14:04.33dcordesiirc
14:04.46majorburnyeah...  but im just talking about yet another mirror for documents that are increasing in rarity.
14:05.31majorburnand the kitchen sink
14:05.56dcordeswhat?
14:06.34dcordeshaha you mean like the marketing sheet from qc that shows the imageon in that layout scheme :D
14:06.36cr2majorburn: i have many manuals that were pulled down for some reason. non-NDA & stuff of course.
14:06.38dcordes?
14:06.52majorburndcordes: no, the stuff cr2's talking about
14:07.24dcordeswell that's just a graphic example on how quick things can disappear at least that is a case I have documented
14:07.43majorburnsorry, i didnt mean no.  i meant that wasnt the main intent, but that is also interesting
14:07.43cr2don't know what to do with the "confidential" things, though. usually i just link to them from wiki.
14:08.36dcordescr2: do you know how the cameras are conntected in kaiser?
14:09.05cr2over mddi2 and msm7200 gpios
14:09.39cr2we have the datasheets and the ov* camera driver from olpc already
14:09.45dcordeshm noting. btw do you have some document on all this? on how the peripherals are connected, some sort of 'real' scheme?
14:10.03dcordescr2: I know I downloaded them when you pasted the link
14:10.14cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserResearch
14:11.12dcordesok wasn't aware of this. But it's not to detailed. shouldn't there be something mentioning that bt is on uart?
14:11.35cr2majorburn: like this one http://www.channel-microelectronic.de/ch_html_de/halbleiter/interface-ics/usb/pdf/S1R72V03_TM_410103703.pdf
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14:40.40infernixxdcordes: ping?
14:40.56dcordespong
14:41.18infernixxa dutch friend of mine has been speeding in germany and got a mail
14:41.28infernixx"schriftliche verwarnung/anhorungsbogen"
14:41.39infernixxis this a fine or a warning?
14:41.47infernixx"schriftliche verwarnung mit verwarnungsgeld"
14:45.43kiozeninfernix: a fine
14:45.58infernixxthanks:)
14:46.03dcordesI think so
14:46.14dcordesverwarnung=warning verwarnungsgeld=fine
14:46.18kiozeninfernix: but he can explain himself, and say that he does not think the fine is right
14:46.33dcordesthat's a flash now I'm listening to dutch rap music
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14:46.55kiozeninfernix if he does not react it is assumed that he does accept the fine
14:48.41kiozendcordes: more noise: http://www.deezer.com/#music/album/1705
14:50.24dcordeskiozen: sounds interesting :) is that your prefered kind of stuff?
14:51.45kiozendcordes: on wednesdays, after sitting half at the morning at the dentist, and now all allone in my office programming boring database stuff? yes definetly
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14:53.50dcordeskiozen: oh that's cruel what did he do to you?
14:56.23kiozendcordes: removed the gold inlay, removed a bit of karies and glued the gold inlay again. Now my teeth hurt and I know why, before they just hurt and I did not know why :/
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14:57.15dcordeskiozen: now that's progress!
14:57.37kiozendcordes: somehow a bit like Kaiser :P
14:57.47kiozenyou finished school today?
14:58.18dcordesyes
14:58.38kiozenso what's next?
14:59.02dcordesin the '4th abitur cours', non written one
14:59.15dcordesnext is waiting for the results of the 3 written exams
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14:59.44dcordesand then no idea. I don't know if I'm possibly going for computer science
15:00.07tcccp"Abitur" somehow sounds german
15:01.24kiozenboy, learn something sensible :)
15:01.25dcordesbaccalaureat
15:01.41dcordesj'ai le bac
15:01.50dcordesje pense
15:01.54kiozen"computer scienc" is mostly programming databases and webpages
15:02.28dcordeswhat's the study of choise if I wanna hack on hardware?
15:02.39kiozenelectronic engineering
15:02.56dcordesthat sounds like _no_ software
15:03.00dcordesat all
15:03.14dcordesI'd need a bit of both
15:03.27kiozenthe study is mostly mathematics
15:03.29dcordesdoesn't that go together anyway?
15:03.37dcordespukes
15:04.07kiozenif you choose direction telecommunication, digital signal processing, microelectronics
15:04.22kiozenno math - no science
15:04.44dcordeshm taking note of this
15:04.45kiozenelse you faith is programming webpages or databases
15:04.50dcordeshaha
15:05.24kiozenbut honestly it's fun to understand how mpg3 and stuff works
15:05.52kiozenand this stuff needs to be programmed for digital signal processors
15:06.33kiozenthe best part is that theory == real world
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15:07.16jeansebBabelO, any news about BA ?
15:07.17majorburnOH HELLO
15:09.26dcordeskiozen: what you mean, theory == real world?
15:09.44dcordesdude that cyber alternate jazz electro s tuff is really spaced up
15:10.01dcordesam at the 5th track we drummin
15:11.11kiozendcordes: in digital signal processing the theoretic algorithm can be implemented as is
15:11.48kiozendcordes: it's not like the analog world
15:12.07kiozendcordes: it's applied math, it's fun
15:12.38dcordesI don't understand this at all. I just tried to imagine algorythms being stuffed into a usb controller
15:13.24dcordesweird in its whole appearance
15:13.57kiozendcordes: if you do a filter in analog world, you have to play with loads of hardware like coils, capacitors, resistors and operational amplifiers. -> nasty
15:14.42dcordesah yea so you just put the zeros and ones
15:14.52dcordesas long as they arrive you have no signal loss
15:15.16kiozendcordes: if you do that in the digital world, you simply solve a polynomial sytem, take the coeficients and implement the formular in the DSP
15:15.28kiozenand it works, like you have calculated it
15:15.32dcordesof course polynomdivision no problem
15:15.53dcordesI'm also king of linear algebra no doubt
15:16.06kiozenyou even can predict the error by quantification
15:16.13dcordeswhich error?
15:16.22dcordesfalse encryption?
15:16.44kiozenlinear algebrar is very usefull for digital signal processing
15:17.46kiozenconvolution matrices are pure linear algebra
15:18.36kiozenthe fun is that you can use all this boring math to create usefull systems like a mp3 encoder/decoder and similar
15:18.54kiozenand at this point math becomes fun
15:19.38dcordesyea I think so but in the way and with (most) people who tought it during the last say 10 years
15:19.48dcordesit was the opposite
15:20.32kiozenbecause our school system failes to show the fun behind it
15:21.24kiozendcordes: fyi all the lads I studyed with and I still know, do programming these days, no hardware
15:22.27kiozendcordes: they programm hardware, and no computer science guys around
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15:22.49ASUS-tekdcordes
15:23.04ASUS-tekcheers
15:23.24dcordesie computer scinece does not look like an optimal path if you're aiming in coping with hardware?
15:23.32dcordeshi asus
15:24.14kiozendcordes: that is what I try to explain
15:24.16ASUS-tekbut i didtn get what u syaing dear
15:24.39ASUS-teknice to see ya againg dear
15:25.02ASUS-tekdcordes the prices of eeepc 4 gb is not 12 k its 16 k here
15:25.09ASUS-tekrupees
15:25.37ASUS-tekbut its cheaper then hong kong and taiwan and maccu
15:25.55ASUS-tekdcordes u there
15:26.18kiozenASUS-tek: btw is the 12'' version already available?
15:26.35ASUS-teknope the 8.9 is and its avaible in the states
15:27.04kiozen8.9 is too bad for my eyesight :)
15:27.06ASUS-tekme in India its not there till now its gona be in few week in the EURO zone
15:27.45ASUS-tekokey 8.9 its haivng 1200 *700 res so that wont be the problem
15:31.31dcordesok that's good wvga is ass.
15:31.41exco!
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15:32.23dcordesI wonder in how far the bigger screen will affect battery life. ASUS-tek will you ship the big screens with a better battery?
15:33.24excoIsn't the light consuming considerably more energy compared to the screen itself?
15:34.00dcordesthey go together
15:34.07dcordesI say
15:35.49dcordesexco: tested qvga mokomoko on wizard yet?
15:36.40ASUS-tekwill catch ya later as having food
15:36.44excoI can't get the OM past the touchscreen calibration (I'm only using a Magician)
15:36.57dcordesmagician yea
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15:37.14dcordesexco: what does happen exactly after the ts cal?
15:37.32dcordesyou see the X on black white dotted background?
15:38.12excoyes, then the calibration screen (the white one with blue cross) and it apparently doesn't recognize my input or is just frozen
15:38.58dcordesmy first gess is the first option
15:39.02excoif I call  ts_calibrate (ssh) - it recognizes input
15:39.25dcordesdo you launch this from fbcon?
15:39.43excoI cant move that dotted X (on other images I can even before calibration)
15:40.04excoI don't know about fbcon
15:40.45dcordesnormal console before X starts
15:41.55excowe'll... I start it using hret from WinCE and I get a normal console then the angstrom bootsplash then X starts...
15:42.18dcordesI mean the ts_calibrate
15:42.28dcordesdo you have X startet when you run it?
15:43.06excoI guess so (I'm stuck with that calibration screen) - then ssh in and ... t&e ...
15:44.45paulproteusI can reproduce this issue. (-:
15:44.53paulproteusi.e., my Magician is stuck on that screen right now.
15:45.23dcordesI didn't even get one X image start on kaiser
15:45.27dcordesthey are all too big
15:45.33paulproteusWhat are too big?
15:45.41excohello paulproteus. Did you get some sleep within the last 48h?
15:45.41dcordesthe initrds
15:45.45dcordesat least they don't boot
15:45.48paulproteusexco, Yes! (-:
15:46.09paulproteusdcordes, You should remove the zImage symlink, as exco discovered.
15:46.19paulproteusBTW, exco, we should probably file an OE bug about that.
15:46.22paulproteusSince it's just Totally Broken.
15:46.32dcordesI tried one minimal-openmoko-image with rm -r /boot
15:46.35dcordessame
15:46.40dcordesit's just the kaiser ramdisk screwage
15:46.51dcordesit's driving me crazy we need SD on kaiser srsly
15:46.58paulproteusdcordes, *oh*, I see.
15:47.31dcordesdo you also boot w/o module support on magician?
15:48.03paulproteusWe enjoy module support.
15:50.08excoregarding bug filing... I don't know what's broken!
15:51.10paulproteusWell, the symptoms would probably be a good start.
15:51.31paulproteusIt seems based on what it prints to try to kexec the kernel in /boob/zImage.
15:51.34paulproteusEr, boot.
15:52.03exco:-)
15:53.01kiozencr2: around?
15:53.44excodo you think the zImage problem is related to the freeze after bootsplash?
15:55.04excocan't we trace what introduced the zImage problem?
15:55.31ASUS-tekBURP
15:55.56paulproteusSure, we could, but I have to do some work for now. (-:
15:56.31excoyou mean besides working on Magician :-P
15:58.04dcordespaulproteus: it's useful for testing to not have to install the modules before you try your image
15:58.24paulproteusexco, Yes, sadly! (-:
15:59.13excobtw why are there 2 different calibration screens?
15:59.33paulproteusI have no idea, I have only seen the first one!
16:00.03excoif you run ts_calibrate you get a different one (black background... nicer looking)
16:00.08paulproteusInteresting.
16:00.17paulproteusWell, whichever this one is, it should probably be removed from the startup process then.
16:00.46excoyes, I didn't find out how it's executed... yet
16:01.03paulproteusps aux, and pstree
16:01.42paulproteusOr, heck, just grep the image for the program's name!
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16:02.03excowe'll I don't know what it's called :-)
16:02.54paulproteusI should give my Magician an IPv6 address.
16:03.06paulproteusMine is still running the lame one.
16:03.13excobtw I don't get that calibration screen anymore ... just empty error messages popping up and touchscreen still not working
16:03.14paulproteusLet me SSH in and see what it's called.
16:03.30paulproteusSad that the touchscreen isn't working even after you run ts_calibrate.
16:03.31dcordesexco: one question did you start off using linux with your magician?
16:03.49dcordesit is mind kicking how fast you got a command of all this
16:04.05excohow do you mean start off ?
16:04.23dcordesbeginning
16:04.37excoyou mean if I tried linux on the desktop to get linux on the Magican?
16:04.55dcordesyes
16:05.17paulproteusHmm, I don't get a USB ethernet interface when I plug in my Magician.
16:05.28paulproteusThat is, no such interface appears on my desktop I plugged it in to.
16:05.39exconot really... I am using Linux for about 3 months now (pretty fresh) and remembered I read about linux on Magician a few years back... so I thought it could be "mature" by now and wanted to give it a try
16:05.59paulproteusexco, Also, BTW, you might want to email the htc-pxa email list.
16:06.04paulproteusAbout our problems.
16:06.19excoI will
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16:07.27excoturns out linux was a good idea... I'm setting up a boinc project as term paper
16:07.42dcordesI cya
16:07.53excobye
16:07.59paulproteusBye dcordes!
16:08.14paulproteusexco, Awesome. (-:
16:09.27excoabout your usb setup.. your usb config - I guess you have usbnet running on your desktop?
16:10.32paulproteusudev is supposed to load it automatically.
16:11.01paulproteusIt's usb0, the interface name, right?
16:11.06excoyes
16:11.16paulproteusNo such interface, I'm afraid.
16:11.33paulproteusIt's strange because the Magician's charging light goes orange, just like it should.
16:11.42excoin linux?
16:11.46paulproteusRight.
16:11.54excomine doesn't
16:12.10paulproteusI'm still stuck on the "Touch the crosshairs to calibrate the screen" stage.
16:12.46excoI think using ts_calibrate and restart got rid of it - touchscreen is still not working
16:12.57paulproteusRight, but I can't SSH in to mine, sadly.
16:13.19excofrom what I can tell - I think the output /dev/input/event1 is wrong
16:13.30paulproteusBut strangely that's independent of kernel version?
16:13.43paulproteusI wonder if something starts up in userspace that configures it, then.
16:13.50paulproteusThat configures it wrong in our image, no matter what kernel we give it.
16:13.52excoon the older image if I cat ... there's no output unless touching the screen.
16:14.08excoon this one I always get output plus additional if touching the screen
16:14.53excoalso if I use our kernel and modules with the older touchscreen works fine
16:15.06paulproteusRight, that's the curious thing.
16:15.18excoit really is
16:15.24paulproteusAt this point, I don't know how much more help I can be, so we might as well check in with the htc-pxa list.
16:15.56paulproteusI can investigate a little tonight maybe, but I'm stabbing in the dark, whereas hopefully someone there knows what's going on. (-:
16:16.08excoI can doublecheck everything but I think I pretty much hit the wall
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16:42.52patochehi all
16:43.19patochesomeone know a good tutorial to disassemble SPL ?
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16:48.28patochearm-elf-objcopy -I binary -B arm -O elf32-littlearm 80000800-SPL.nb SPL.elf ; arm-elf-objdump -D SPL.elf > SPL.asm
16:48.51patocheor there is better ?
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17:09.57p3t3r__Eine Musik-Nachrichten-Sitzung wurde angefragt. Bitte klicken Sie das MM-Icon zum Akzeptieren.
17:10.00p3t3r__Eine Musik-Nachrichten-Sitzung wurde angefragt. Bitte klicken Sie das MM-Icon zum Akzeptieren.
17:13.16cr2p3t3r__: in linux ?
17:14.23cr2patoche: why do you need objcopy ?
17:15.28patochemy first try was to open it on IDA but it only print data
17:15.53cr2you should decode it with dumprom first.
17:16.09cr2then it'll get coff headers.
17:17.03cr2objcopy is really useless, because you can force decoding from the first op in ida anyway.
17:17.49p3t3r__cr2: yes, if you mean whether i am in this room using a linux-machine
17:19.10patochecr2: thanks , will try
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17:51.06patochecr2: dumprom dont work on SPL ? if fact i want to find the code executed when a diagnostic sdcard is inserted in a wizard
17:53.10patocheactualy my SPL.nb is fetched with typhoonnbfdecode.pl from a dump on sdcard
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18:26.31cr2patoche: i think it should work.
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18:39.39cr2hi Marex
18:39.56cr2Marex: i've added the n_erhtc.c to hh.org
18:40.20cr2kiozen: i do everything right, but it does not work as i want ;)
18:40.43Marexcr2, was that really a good idea ?
18:40.59kiozencr2: that is what I said when reverse engineering the Garmin protocol :)
18:41.43Marexcr2, btw doesnt seems it was commited, see the commit log ;)
18:41.50cr2Marex: yes. because i've immediately fixed some sable compilation bugs
18:42.03MarexI see, ok
18:42.04cr2Marex: hm. yes.
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18:43.09cr2Marex: now it is
18:43.28Marexcr2, well I still dont think it's really a good idea
18:43.34Marexthe code may be not working
18:43.53cr2Marex: gpio_set_value() for asic3_* is the next.
18:44.12cr2Marex: there are 2 users of that code, so don't mind ;)
18:44.12Marexok, happy hacking
18:44.29MarexI have to learn c# till tomorow, so ...
18:44.41Marex(read: that's three hours from now ;) )
18:46.16cr2hehe.
18:46.51cr2sounds evil
18:50.24kiozenc#, brrrrrrr
18:51.13kiozenstruggle with gimp and color pallets
19:01.42cr2kiozen: already seen that ? http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
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19:05.10kiozencr2: yes someone told me, would be nice maps for my tutorial, but what projection?
19:06.15Marexkiozen, cr2, yea, it makes me puke, but I have to pass the test
19:06.47kiozenMarex: lol, it does not hurt to learn a bit of dark art :)
19:07.07cr2Marex: know your enemy :)
19:07.17Marex:D
19:07.18cr2kiozen: does not look like GK
19:07.47kiozencr2: more like lambert
19:07.55kiozencause of the degree
19:08.11cr2kiozen: yes, but which one...
19:08.29kiozencr2: It's amazing how empty the area I come from is
19:09.09kiozencr2: the maps are nice but not usable for an open tutorial :(
19:10.08cr2kiozen: hm, but all old maps look like that.
19:11.03kiozencr2:  the nice part about the current tile is that is really has the information printed on it
19:11.12kiozencr2: but also the legal notice :/
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19:13.13cr2legal notice ?
19:14.49kiozencr2: it's not allowed to copy digitize or something else
19:15.00kiozencr2: printed right on it
19:15.10cr2where ?
19:15.47kiozencr2: on the papermap, think that part is not on the example tile, but that is no reason to ignore it
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19:17.19cr2kiozen: don't see it
19:18.05kiozencr2: not the topo maps, the Dolomitie map I use for my tutorial
19:20.35cr2ah, ok.
19:23.47kiozencr2: I have two map tiles with same pallet and transparent color.
19:24.01kiozencr2: if I stitch them with gdalwarp
19:24.20kiozencr2: the transparent color seems to be dropped
19:24.47kiozencr2: gdal pollutes white spaces with black
19:24.56kiozencr2:  you had this before?
19:28.51kiozencr2: gdalwarp -srcnodata 255 -dstnodata 255 seems to be ignored :/
19:29.22cr2the 255-th entry is transparent ?
19:30.06kiozencr2: yes
19:30.29cr2strange
19:30.46kiozencr2: colortable is 1:1 but the no data color is not set
19:31.08cr2i've even stitched 2 "close palette" images with 'composite -compose overlay a.png b.png ab.png'
19:31.37cr2gdal_translate first to add nodata first ?
19:32.01kiozenthe source has the nodata filed, just the target is missing it
19:32.35cr2no, didn't happen to me.
19:32.40cr2ask on the gdal ml
19:34.34kiozencr2: arrg that is lame, it's gdal not writing over existing data without telling the user, grrrrrr
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20:18.40cr2BabelO: tgs5000 gps ? http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ArtemisHardware
20:19.08BabelOcr2: not me, i did not create the artemis entry, just add the table
20:20.01BabelOcr2: http://pastebin.ca/1018325
20:20.17BabelOcr2: why i only get 0xffff ? i miss something ?
20:22.49BabelOcr2: i ve checked each event one by one 0xfffe to 0xffff and the others
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20:27.16cr2BabelO: haha http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/05/top-50-applications.html
20:27.54cr2BabelO: what do you send ?
20:28.05paulproteuscr2, Why funny?
20:29.15BabelOcr2: lot of peolple looking for money :)
20:29.38cr2paulproteus: i vote for M, because it's a direct attack on google :)
20:29.38BabelOcr2: register are in the order, i send 0x800 then 0xc300 ....
20:29.47BabelOcr2: but always reading 0xffff
20:29.52cr2paulproteus: and roadmap, of course.
20:30.04paulproteuscr2, What's M?
20:30.19cr2BabelO: afair it was 0xd300 and 0xc300 ?
20:30.40cr2paulproteus: http://qlandkarte.org
20:30.55paulproteuscr2, Ah, nice. (-:
20:33.44BabelOcr2: the driver send the values, i just relay over my spi driver
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20:54.14kiozenBabelO: you should really stitch your Vergeze map, it's a great performance improvement and gdal does a nice job at the tile borders
20:56.39BabelOkiozen: :) fighting with ts driver, i m doing rocket science
20:57.30kiozenBabelO: watch out for flying parts :)
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21:24.12revertivei have a fealing there's a storm coming this way :p
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21:43.13cr2hi tsdogs
21:43.23tsdogshi cr2
21:44.16tsdogscr2: working on viewer to see if I can fix some bugs, and interface :)
21:44.27tsdogsany more bugs to submit?
21:46.12tsdogshmm print dialog is messed up
21:47.10cr2tsdogs: there are some segfaults here and there, but the quick and dirty things work.
21:47.26tsdogs:) ok
21:47.38tsdogsI think I've fixed a few more bugs.
21:47.53tsdogsLet me fix the print dialog then will give u a new version
21:48.04cr2tsdogs: i think there is 200-iz hardcoded somewhere, but it's not a bug, just a quick and dirty feature.
21:48.10cr2thanks :)
21:48.48tsdogsbtw, did I miss much ? Haven't been around for some time :)
21:49.05tsdogstoday I set up my first BGP router ;)
21:49.16cr2not really.
21:49.22cr2nice.
21:49.45tsdogshmm roadmap mailing list looks pretty active lately.
21:50.08tsdogsit was fun, bit complicated (to understand) but fun
21:51.00cr2yes, the iphone port, and wince-gcc working too
21:51.44cr2but i still don't take it seriously before there will be point layers.
21:51.55tsdogslol
21:52.18tsdogsat least paul is willing to do some work on it
21:52.19cr2and the route planner of course.
21:52.44cr2i began to document the .rdm access api.
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21:52.58cr2i hope he will do it for the rendering api.
21:53.12cr2i'll post the question about the doxygen
21:53.56tsdogsyes, some documentation would be of much help to anybody...
21:59.49cr2tsdogs: is the current xanadux tree up-to-date with the mainline ?
22:00.09cr2tsdogs: i'm curious what we should push to mainline next.
22:00.21tsdogscr2: hmm not really, bug I think the big things are in...
22:00.58cr2the zoom level indicator and the 2x scaling ?
22:01.12tsdogscr2: I think rdm change would be nice. As drawing things can be ported easily
22:01.39cr22^32 polygon lines ?
22:01.58cr2hmm. i'd like to have the clean .rdm upgrade.
22:02.08tsdogshmm ok, but we haven't got anything for that ourselves, and maybe discussing on changing to mercator could also be nice
22:02.27cr2beginning with the mandatory metadata tags, which should be honored by the rendering part.
22:02.47tsdogscr2: yes the 2^32
22:02.49cr2the Class tag is already there.
22:03.02cr2we may add the format version tag
22:03.17cr2to keep the binary incompatible thing away.
22:03.19tsdogsthat'd be nice too.
22:03.56cr2and the projection tag, so mercator will be possible along the usual latlong microdegrees.
22:04.12tsdogsyes that's an idea
22:04.22cr2but then the renderer code needs some changes (to not scale by cos(lat))
22:04.37cr2and the gpsd glue code.
22:05.40cr2i think we'd start with replacing all *1000000 and /1000000 with some RDM2XXX function.
22:06.30tsdogsyes
22:11.44miknixKevin2, ping
22:14.24cr2BabelO: does the SD card work on artemis ?
22:15.00BabelOcr2: yes very well, just some sd timeout on boot CMD5
22:15.23cr2ok.
22:16.08cr2BabelO: gps ?
22:16.35miknixBabelO, just checked the mux configuration for MMC and is the same. I'm going to check UART1
22:17.01BabelOcr2: gps too :)
22:17.16cr2miknix: if you'll fix the i2c-cpld power for the SD that'll be a real breakthrough.
22:17.23BabelOmiknix: good
22:17.25cr2BabelO: is it sirf ?
22:17.37BabelOcr2: yes a sirf III, why ?
22:18.03cr2BabelO: because the guy who has edited the artemis at hh.org has written some weird stuff there.
22:18.07cr2BabelO: bt ?
22:18.37cr2BabelO: can you start the siftmon, and add the firmware version into wiki ?
22:18.45BabelOcr2: bt i did not check, UART is up , just need to push the power and do the reset
22:19.06BabelOcr2: yes, if you help me to understand the TS :)
22:20.21cr2hmm. yes, TS is a must. then you can have fun with M :)
22:20.55cr2BabelO: you use your own spi_100k driver ? and what do you use for the tsc2046 ?
22:20.56miknixcr2, the sd power enable bit is available on i2c chip3 at bit 3 . Setting that pin to 0 is known to turn off mmc for people :)
22:21.09miknixs/mmc/SD/
22:21.24cr2miknix: ok, but when you set it, does the SD card work ?
22:21.43miknixcr2, yes
22:21.49BabelOcr2: yes i use my own spi driver, and i use the tsc2046_ts.c because it dial with 16 bit word, and it is easier
22:21.51cr2miknix: i.e. can you finally have the rootfs on the SD without any weird workarounds.
22:22.30cr2BabelO: 16 ? i think it was (and is) 24bit on universal ?
22:22.57cr2BabelO: so i think you need to use the 8bit transfers really.
22:23.04BabelOcr2: the spi bus dialog is set to 16 bit and ads7846 driver set it to 8bit
22:23.15cr2ok
22:23.20miknixcr2, the problem is that if we start without any sd workaround, the sd bit doesnt make any difference. but if we start with sd workaround, we can disable and enable sd power with that bit. IMHO, there should be another gpio/register that is involved
22:23.51cr2miknix: isn't there an omap SD power gpio too ?
22:24.03cr2miknix: and what about wifi/SD mux ?
22:24.10miknixcr2, didnt try it yet
22:24.30cr2miknix: on artemis you need to take care about all these 2 issues.
22:24.57BabelOmiknix: can you try omap_writel(0x00000006, 0xfffe10b4); /* PCC_CONF_REG 0x6=MMC activated 0x2=init */
22:25.08miknixcr2, I've dumped GPIO changes on haret when the card is inserted and removed both with SD fix and without it
22:25.26miknixcr2, but I dont see any difference in GPIO settings
22:25.39cr219   0x13         SD power0
22:25.54miknixmaybe the changed gpio wasnt on the watch list
22:26.06miknixhum.. gpio 19?
22:26.31cr2miknix: you need to set this gpio together with the i2c-cpld power gpio.
22:26.43cr2it's not an unusual things. i have the same on n560
22:26.55miknixwait!
22:27.00cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WizardGPIO&version=6
22:27.13miknix002.176    GPIOS GPIO1-IL: IL19(19)=1
22:27.14miknix002.176    GPIOS GPIO1-OL: OL19(211)=1
22:27.14miknix002.181    GPIOS GPIO1-IL: IL19(19)=0
22:27.15miknix(...)
22:27.22miknixThat pin appears on my dump
22:27.41cr2yes, it's the SD power0, as i've written into wiki.
22:27.52miknixI'm pretty sure its the gpio associated with the insert switch on the card reader
22:28.05cr2miknix: it's from spl
22:28.30cr2you should also check this one:
22:28.32cr2<PROTECTED>
22:28.39miknixIf you keep pressing the sd into the slot, the GPIO19 keeps changing from 0 to 1 to 0...
22:28.50cr2yes, it's the power
22:28.59miknixhum..
22:29.12cr2because it's the output gpio. SD detect is always an input gpio.
22:29.37cr2and you don't care about SD detect if your rootfs is on the SD
22:30.19cr2but it may change when we'll flash the rootfs.
22:30.19miknixcr2, http://pastebin.com/d1dfbf88f  (read the comment at the end)
22:30.19cr2tsdogs: thanks :)
22:30.36tsdogscr2: yw, still some bugs left, but it should be more usable :)
22:31.17cr2miknix: my data is from the spl, and i'm quite sure about it, because it looks very similar to artemis.
22:31.26miknixI believe you
22:31.41miknixjust wondering why it happens like that
22:32.38cr2the power is probably reapplied on a controller reset
22:35.23miknixBabelO, my UART1 has another mux config
22:36.01cr2miknix: what about documenting the mux config somewhere in wiki ?
22:36.12miknixcr2, sure
22:36.50miknixcr2, if you dont mind I'm going to put it on the linwizard wiki. SF.net wiki editor is less painful
22:37.03cr2ok.
22:37.15cr2spreading the data is a good idea anyway.
22:37.32cr2if something fails.
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22:38.14miknixcr2, do you have any wiki example for mux config for other devices ?
22:38.51cr2no, it's an omap-specific things, so i've not done it myself
22:39.00miknixok
22:40.41cr2tsdogs: i have a segfault on a 300MB file, need to debug it.
22:40.57tsdogscr2: you had it before too?
22:41.50cr2tsdogs: yes.
22:42.02tsdogsok.
22:45.19cr20x0000000000439da1 in tData::loadncc2A (this=0x781830, parent=<value optimized out>, name=<value optimized out>) at tdataitem.h:52
22:45.19cr252        void setRef (int x=-1, int y=-1, int z=-1) { varX = x; varY = y; varZ = z; }
22:45.39tsdogshmm
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22:48.22tsdogscr2: what's the output in stdout just before that?
22:48.31tsdogsadd marked: ... ?
22:49.09cr2add zfake: nvars=4 size=6
22:49.09cr2add marked: nvars=5 size=8 profn=0
22:49.09cr2Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
22:49.29cr2profn=0 does not look good.
22:50.09cr2ah. sorry.
22:50.27cr2it does not contain lat/lon vectors ;)
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22:51.22tsdogsI think that all those resize are not even needed ...
22:56.08tsdogsanyway porfn does not look good anyway
22:56.18tsdogss/porfn/profn
22:56.46tsdogsnew int [porfn], I wonder what it does
22:57.22tsdogsmaybe doing new int[profn+1] would fix it
22:57.26cr2dimensions:
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22:57.41cr2profn should be 17076
22:59.07cr2if (!strcmp(name,"lat")) profn=lups[0];
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23:01.38tsdogscr2: do you have this with the older version? source looks pretty the same
23:01.51cr2no, it's something else
23:01.54cr2found profn=17076
23:01.54cr2add marked: nvars=15 size=22 profn=17076
23:02.46cr2it's testing with a big netcdf file
23:04.32cr2for 2d name=pressure zid=10
23:04.32cr2for !2d name=pressure_psw zid=14
23:08.09cr2strange.
23:09.18tsdogscr2: maybe it's a problem with QVector
23:09.37tsdogsit changed from qt3 to qt4
23:10.04tsdogsmaybe using Q3ValueVector fixes the problem...
23:10.17cr2Q3 is not nice.
23:10.21cr2colorbarlegend.sprintf("%s z=%.2f km",data->getName(td_plotid),200.-td_zindex);
23:10.33cr2finally found the hack :)
23:11.01tsdogslol
23:11.20tsdogscr2: ok but at least we know it's the vector
23:11.56cr2ok.
23:12.04cr2i see a lot of weird things there.
23:12.33cr2it should have been easier to use a transformation matrix instead of manually rescaling the axes.
23:12.50cr2like that:
23:12.53cr2const float dlon = (range[2]-range[0]) / 360.0;
23:15.08tsdogsok, I changed the QVector handling functions, so maybe that's the problem.
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23:19.14cr2ok. good night
23:19.20tsdogsit's late, good night. Let me know if you find something...
23:19.23tsdogslol
23:19.30cr2ok
23:19.57tsdogscr2: try removing the resizes before the insert
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