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00:00.08paulproteus#
00:00.08paulproteus| net/netfilter/xt_MARK.mod.c:19: fatal error: error closing /tmp/ccRwTxzg.s: No space left on device
00:01.02excosh...
00:02.27excostarted out with like 10GB free yesterday... how fast that went away :-)
00:06.35miknixKevin2, I'm modifying your driver to be attached as chip to the i2c bus
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00:14.49excopaulproteus: that really wasn't too clever (shouldn't have happened)... btw monotone?
00:14.55paulproteusWorking on it.
00:26.10Kevin2miknix: Which one?  the bb-keys one?  It'd be really odd to have that attached to a real i2c bus.
00:26.31miknixKevin2, why?
00:27.37Kevin2It's not a real i2c chip.  I'd be surprised if an i2c bus could handle it.
00:27.50Kevin2Is the chip you found control backlight and front keypad?
00:27.57miknixKevin2, yes
00:28.20miknixKevin2, no matter what address I read, I always have the dpad press value
00:28.23Kevin2Can you drive the pins in use via gpio instead of i2c?
00:29.33miknixKevin2, how'd I do that? attaching this into the i2c bus only needed a simple pooling
00:29.56Kevin2pooling?
00:30.01Kevin2miknix: What is the device?
00:30.07miknixKevin2, htc wizard
00:30.21Kevin2That is omap, right?
00:30.24miknixKevin2, yes
00:30.34miknix850
00:30.50Kevin2And it is using the omap850 i2c logic block?
00:30.57miknixyes
00:31.04Kevin2Does it use it under wince?
00:31.10miknixdont know
00:31.21miknixerr.. yes
00:31.24miknixit uses it
00:31.42Kevin2Most of these SoC type things allow you to use the pins as either gpio or one of the logic blocks.
00:32.11Kevin2It usually comes up as a gpio "alternate function".  So, for example, one can say pin 28 is either a gpio or the clock of i2c.
00:32.25miknixKevin2, oh.. the mux you say
00:32.47Kevin2Yeah - something like that.  If you can turn the 2 pins back to gpio, you may be able to use the driver directly.
00:33.01miknixKevin2, didnt know that
00:33.25miknixKevin2, but I still need to attach to the i2c bus
00:33.40miknixto export something into sysfs to control backlight and leds
00:35.13BabelOgood night
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00:37.08Kevin2miknix: I'm not sure why using i2c would help with that.  Take a look at what I've done with apache and hermes.
00:37.48miknixKevin2, I know which addresses to read for enabled leds, dimming backlight intensity, etc.
00:38.10paulproteusexco, re: monotone: It'll take some time, I have to upgrade a bunch of other stuff first (I'm trying to keep my server mostly on Debian stable).
00:39.28miknixKevin2, I dont see backlight control in this driver.. do you have more separately=
00:39.29miknix?
00:39.35excopaulproteus: sorry, I didn't want to cause any trouble
00:40.43paulproteusexco, It's okay, I want to do my builds on rose also. (-:
00:41.00Kevin2miknix: The bbkeys driver just provides gpio and lcd functions.  One needs to map gpios to lcd and backlight controls.  See the htcapache.c and htchermes.c files.
00:41.32miknixKevin2, hum... thats was a good idea
00:41.50paulproteusexco, It's doing the upgrades now, slowly but surely.
00:42.00excocool
00:42.11miknixKevin2, ok, I'll enable gpios for it tomorrow and use your driver then
00:42.27excobtw, paulproteus, do we need other branches than o.e.dev
00:42.32miknixKevin2, thanks
00:42.35paulproteusexco, I don't think so.
00:44.27Kevin2miknix: No problem.  (BTW, I meant bbkeys just provides kbd and gpio functions -- one must map backlight and led via high level code.)
00:44.55miknixKevin2, I did understand :)
00:48.02miknixgoing to sleep
00:48.05miknixhave a good night
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01:41.23excopaulproteus: gotta get up in about 5 hours... see you tomorrow
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05:36.56excogood morning
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05:59.55paulproteusexco, Wow, you're awake already!
06:06.54excoyes... btw the monotone update doesn't seem to have gone through
06:12.31surgex0(*) If you think that sounds pathetic, go talk to JFK's speech-writers. They did get to the moon though...
06:12.32surgex0lol
06:12.33surgex0:P
06:12.36surgex0i like the wiki page
06:13.06paulproteussurgex0, Er, which wiki page?
06:13.21surgex0the 1 in topic, xanadux
06:16.18kiozenwell, of course it's all about world domination
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06:21.16paulproteusexco, It's not going to work to give you a shell on my main server, so I'm creating a Debian unstable virtual server and moving your account there.
06:21.26paulproteus(It's not going to work in that getting mtn to update there is too much hassle.)
06:23.34excopaulproteus: just if it's not too much of a hassle
06:23.40paulproteusIt's not. (-:
06:28.24excoI have to get going - ttyl paulproteus
06:28.28paulproteusttyl, exco
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08:02.55paulproteusIf exco gets back and I'm asleep, tell him to log into unstable.makesad.us with his usual key.
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09:05.21dcordesdzo: hi, do you have a minute to send me testing rootfs?
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09:30.45uplinkedanyone know the mtype for hermes, off the top of their head? :)
09:31.00uplinked(and does it matter, if haret autodetects it as a hermes?)
09:45.38dcordeshttp://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/?action=list&id=1213
09:52.42uplinkedsweet, thanks!
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09:53.59miknixcr2, hello
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11:27.43BabelOcr2: hi, can you tell me if the dxf structure is ok for you ? can you do something with it ?
11:28.08miknixBabelO, the i2c-gpio bitbang driver works for me
11:28.19miknixBabelO, its much faster in I/O than omap-i2c
11:30.28BabelOmiknix: good ;), but you need to pilot cpld too
11:31.36miknixBabelO, we have acquired a lot of info
11:31.53miknixBabelO, we know which bits to set to enabled each led color, backlight intensity
11:32.10miknixBabelO, rumble, keypad backlight....
11:33.46BabelOi need to go
11:33.47BabelObbl
12:02.42miknixcr2, hi
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12:06.06marbalondcordes: hi
12:07.24marbalondcordes: there is a bug in Makefile in mach-msm, you should move kaiser-smd.o to obj-$(CONFIG_MACH_HTCKAISER)
12:08.03marbalonand change CONFIG_MSM_KAISERSMD to CONFIG_MSM_KAISER_TTY as option
12:08.41marbalonnow if you get errors when you compile without CONFIG_MSM_KAISERSM option
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12:34.24miknixcr2, I found the bitmask for chips 4 and 5 connected to i2c: http://pastebin.com/d754ecf03
12:35.02miknixcr2, we can now control backlight brightness, leds and keypad brightness.
12:35.31miknixcr2, chip 6 has some control about rumble and dpad light. didnt dump it yet
12:42.16dcordesmarbalon: hi. can you send me a diff together with your other changes like egpio?
12:44.35marbalonit isn't requied now I have access to git repository too ;)
12:44.36marbalonhttp://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/mobile-linux/
12:45.50dcordesmarbalon: are you Angelo?
12:46.14marbalonnow I need to learn git usage, till now I only works with CVS
12:46.36dcordesah I see you in the list
12:47.00dcordeslooks like we are three msmlers by now :)
12:50.02marbalondcordes:  hmm somethings wrong with wiki.xda-developers.com, cant access to CPLD info
12:50.42dcordesmarbalon: me n'either. seems kinda down
12:51.48dcordesI won't change anything gpio or cpld related in the tree until you have your stuff done. so we don't do dual work
12:51.56dcordesI'm currently playing with AT
12:53.47dcordesneeds local copy of the wiki pages
12:56.18marbalonI'm still playing with keyboard but, if I finish we have full keyboard working, arrow keys, back light, leds etc..
12:57.12dcordesdid you find a solution for control?
12:58.37marbalondcordes: control of what ?
12:59.38marbalondcordes: all gpio num related with keyboard are known
12:59.57dcordesmarbalon: sorry <ctrl> I mean
13:00.47marbalondcordes: yes ctrl work fine with leds status - two leds on
13:01.01marbalonmenu key = ctrl
13:01.29marbalonand it is 3-state like Fn and caps
13:01.46dcordesok
13:02.04dcordeswhere did you put they key for <ctrl>-modifier?
13:02.18marbalonthere is only one problem, no irq rated with egpio, so I need to use pooling mode to wath arrow keys
13:02.36marbalonmenu key is modifier
13:03.51dcordesI have no idea about egpio+irq
13:03.51marbalondcordes:  *rated = related
13:04.04dcordesI though we only use egpio for the gpios which are on the cpld
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13:17.49dcordesmarbalon: do you have the second IRQ register in your haretconsole regs-msm.py?
13:17.54dcordes<PROTECTED>
13:18.52marbalonI don't use haret console till now
13:19.08dcordesit's useful
13:20.01dcordesI don't have network access to my kaiser right now. could you get haretconsole, add the linem establish a connection, run wirq, press arrow keys and see if you get an irq?
13:20.19dcordess/linem/line/
13:21.11marbalondcordes: read this registers and check irq status changes but nothing changed when press arrow keys
13:22.05marbalondcordes: irq 31+2 occurs when press other keys
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13:27.41dcordesmarbalon: hm shit. so you have the two irq registers in regs-msm.py?
13:28.51marbalondcordes: I use kernel module to read values in regs etc
13:29.55marbalondcordes: I know that is no the easiest way but works for me ;)
13:30.26dcordesmarbalon: what is that module's name again?
13:31.11marbalondcordes: I add some lines in keyboard driver
13:31.17marbalonbbl, work->home
13:33.36infernixxdcordes: havent tried to build the kernel tree yet
13:33.40infernixxhows driver progress?
13:33.57dcordesgood to see you
13:34.22dcordesnothing much happened. don't know what's your status though. just see gitweb
13:46.57infernixxbusy with work :)
13:47.03infernixxthats my status
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14:48.28uplinkedso i just spent the last 6 hours reading everything i could find on hermes linux
14:49.50uplinkedpretty much came to the conclusion that it's "close" but not done, the rest of the work is "very tricky/tedious", and cr2 (the only guy who's mentioned working on it) has other projects (n560) to finish before he goes back to the hermes/athena/etc
14:50.19uplinkedthat being the case, and assuming that i'm talking to empty space and irc bots at this point, i want to help :)
14:50.56kiozenuplinked: :) no bots here, but cr2 is away for today
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14:51.17uplinkedwell, logs at least
14:51.41uplinkedi'm pretty familiar with the logs. i read every one since 2007-09-30 that contains the word "hermes"
14:53.32uplinkedthat being said, my hardware/asm/c skills are... undeveloped. but i'm a quick learner and a steady worker, and if anyone wouldn't mind taking a few minutes to aim me in the right direction, i'd like to start with testing NAND and work my way up to the ATI SD stuff.
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15:03.59amd64loverBabelO, http://pastebin.com/d4401f121
15:06.24dcordesuplinked: iirc ATI is the biggest problem on hermes cr2 faces
15:07.53uplinkeddcordes: when you say ATI, you mean the ATI SD card slot, right?
15:08.21dcordesI think so. But there are also other things probided by the ATI chip
15:08.33uplinkedahh, gotcha
15:09.02dcordesunfortunately I have no idea where hermes development goes on
15:09.33dcordesit's not in hh.org tree, is it?
15:11.38uplinkedhaven't been able to figure that out yet, either
15:11.55BabelOmiknix: good
15:12.19uplinkedcr2 mentioned that the NAND driver was also giving him trouble on his hermes, 4/15/2008, ~1300h  here: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/20080415.html.gz
15:12.23BabelOkiozen: hi, how can i found parallele of a map i have ? i mean the long /lat line ?
15:12.30miknixBabelO, Chip 5 seems to give other output than the dpad status
15:12.40miknixBabelO, I think its the battery charge
15:12.59kiozenBabelO: huh?
15:13.24uplinkedi figured that looked like something simpler for me to test; like i said, i'm not exactly a hardware guy typically, but i want to learn enough to help
15:14.01uplinkedis wiki.xda-developers.com down for anyone else?
15:14.01BabelOkiozen: i ve two map with the blue grid, but without information on it
15:14.26kiozenBabelO: hm, that is hard
15:14.38BabelO:(
15:14.40miknixuplinked, the website goes fine
15:15.04uplinkedhmm, everything else loads alright for me, just not wiki.
15:15.13kiozenyou need at least two known point, mustn't be on the grid
15:16.01kiozenBabelO: with these ref. points you can try different projections / datums
15:16.18BabelOkiozen: ok, it is in the Alp :)
15:16.34kiozenBabelO: do not use mountain tops!
15:16.45kiozenBabelO: use road crossings :)
15:17.01BabelOkiozen: btw, do you have an idea how can i convert the Tiff to pgm ?
15:17.08BabelOkiozen: that is what i do now ;)
15:17.18kiozenBabelO: gimp?
15:18.05BabelOkiozen: in the code, it is to implement the binarize / symbol system in gt
15:18.56kiozenBabelO: ah ok, QT surely fails, doesn't it?
15:19.33BabelOkiozen: i did not check if the happy let me do it
15:19.46BabelOkiozen: elese i ve to depend from imagmagick devel
15:19.57kiozenBabelO: yuck
15:20.52kiozenBabelO: maybe there is a small lib
15:20.57BabelOkiozen: i don't really like that :-(
15:21.29BabelOkiozen: ok, else i change the qgar library code, to extact tiff directly, but i need grey level to do
15:21.37kiozencan't you work on a RGB buffer directly?
15:22.35kiozenBabelO: QT will convert 8 bit indexed to RGBA automatically
15:26.18BabelOkiozen: ok i ll look, it is just math formula after all
15:27.01dcordesuplinked: yyep wiki also down for me
15:27.05kiozenBabelO: that's what I would say, and RGBA is stored in a 32 bit iteger commonly
15:31.08BabelOkiozen: do you download the bz2 i post yesturday ?
15:31.31kiozenBabelO: yes but don't know how to look at dxf
15:31.49BabelOkiozen: ok, the binarize system is ok
15:32.25BabelOkiozen: the connex system too, i can extract text ( actuaally just the coord of box contaiining text :)
15:33.25kiozenBabelO: any chance that will work on a high color map like mine?
15:33.47kiozenBabelO: because many hiking maps are like thiat
15:34.12BabelOhumm
15:35.31BabelOkiozen: if you found the publication here http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/ related to maps or color process, i can do it :) you to :)
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15:37.35BabelOola marbalon
15:37.58BabelOmarbalon: did you found your kerboard issue ?
15:39.24marbalonBabelO: I found everything except EGIPO irq
15:40.35marbalonBabelO: but you talking about input_events ?
15:40.53BabelOmarbalon: yes :)
15:40.59BabelOdid you solve it ?
15:42.08marbalonBabelO: yes, add set_bit(kaiser_buttons[row][col].key, keyboard_dev->keybit) instead old method and just works
15:42.26BabelOgood :)
15:42.48BabelOmarbalon: and you did not found the cpld irq :(
15:44.09marbalonBabelO: yes, I hope pooling gpio don't kill CPU
15:45.01marbalonBabelO: ts driver based on pooling mode and works fine
15:45.14BabelO:
15:45.35marbalonBabelO: now learning about git usage
15:48.38dcordesmarbalon: ping me if you have a question
15:48.59marbalondcordes: ping ;)
15:49.01dcordesI'm not too advanced but I know the most important commands
15:50.00marbalondcordes: let start what is correct path for our repository ?
15:50.58dcordesgit clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git
15:51.07dcordesgit checkout -b htc-msm origin/htc-msm
15:51.27dcordesthat will clone and setup the branch you need (htc-msm)
15:52.07marbalonI missed home in path, but was close ;)
15:52.27dcordeswhat I used beyond that is git-diff git-add git-rm git-status
15:54.52marbalonbbl, I have only 1MBit/s
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15:59.53BabelOkiozen: found interesting thing ? :)
16:00.24kiozenBabelO: did not look, currently hack Garmin plugins into GT
16:07.39dcordesbbl
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16:32.52dcordeslol http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Ubuntu-fuer-PDAs--/meldung/107645
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16:36.18kiozenBabelO: doomsday :) let's see if that rootfs of cr2 works. Wish me luck.
16:36.20kiozenbbl
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18:31.48marbalonback
18:33.52dcordesare ey
18:34.04dcordeslol
18:34.10dcordeshi marbalon
18:34.17dcordesgit cloned?
18:34.30marbalonyes
18:35.15marbalonok, try to apply egpio fixes and try to commit
18:38.01dcordesok
18:38.05dcordesbbl
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19:08.43miknixcr2, sound device is also enabled/disabled by i2c. I've just found the address
19:14.00miknixand I think chip 3 returns the volume level
19:23.28marbalondcordes: ping
19:27.01marbalonpH5: hi
19:32.03pH5good evening
19:32.17marbalon<PROTECTED>
19:32.58marbalonI cloned git repository, switch to htc-msm branch
19:33.37marbalonadd some changes, and use git commit <some files>
19:34.14marbalonand now a wat to send this changes to server
19:34.36marbalonhow can I do this ?
19:35.01pH5ok, you can use "git-push ssh://marbalon@linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git htc-msm"
19:35.11pH5do you have user.email and user.name set up correctly with git-config?
19:35.33marbalonyes
19:36.45marbalonit sends only commited changes ?
19:37.38pH5yes. this command sends only the refs leading up to htc-msm that are not yet in the remote repository.
19:38.10marbalonwell done. thanks ;)
19:39.41pH5great
19:40.55pH5marbalon: you should try to have a look at the htc-egpio driver from mainline, it would be good if you could get that one to work instead of the hh.org one.
19:41.47pH5If you spend a lot of time on gpiodev2 and the old htc-egpio it might not be worth it because you have to update anyway when you want to push the kaiser code towards mainline.
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21:05.53excohi paulproteus
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21:33.57paulproteusexco, Hey - inspired by you, I started a build.
21:34.03paulproteusexco, You can ssh to unstable.makesad.us and build there if you like too.
21:34.35paulproteusI got a uclibc image finished, and I'm on task 1022 of 4982 for the openmoko-devel-image.
21:34.45paulproteusIt's been going since about six hours ago, I think.
21:34.57exconice.
21:35.05excoon your local machine?
21:35.11paulproteusNo, on unstable.makesad.us.
21:35.18paulproteusWhich is the same machine as rose, just a Vserver that runs Debian Unstable.
21:35.27paulproteusIt's in my $HOME on unstable.makesad.us.
21:35.46excothat's another one of your servers?
21:35.52excowasn't the other one rose?
21:36.19paulproteusIt's the same machine as rose.
21:36.26paulproteusIt's just a virtual server that runs Debian unstable.
21:36.42paulproteusSame physical hardware, different OS install, different IP address.
21:37.02excook... so you could just install monotone without messing with your configuration?
21:38.11excowell... if it is already building ... I can't do anything more - can I?
21:38.27paulproteusexco, I couldn't just install the more recent mtn, that's right.
21:38.36paulproteusBut yeah - it's already building, so I guess there's nothing for you to do on that front.
21:39.30excothis is then a latest build of Angström&OM?
21:41.22paulproteusYup, that's what's building.
21:42.04excoI hope it's working at least the things that are working with the dec07 images
21:42.17uplinkedanyone else slightly confused by nokia's marketing strategy? http://www.symbian.com/phones/nokia_n93i.html
21:43.22excowhat are you getting at, uplinked?
21:43.23uplinkedit appears, and i might just be colorblind, that they're trying to sell a big, expensive, 3.2mp/qwerty/wifi phone in europe and africa
21:43.57uplinkedas... opposed to... i don't know, where might there be more market demand for such a phone? china? the u.s.? japan?
21:44.15uplinkedi'm sure it sells very well in europe. but africa?
21:44.28uplinked[i shouldn't forget australia, too]
21:45.01excoguess they'd rather buy the iphone for "status symbol"... even in africa...
21:45.20uplinkedsorry, just struck me as odd. i'm sure that nokia's team of salespersons have far more experience with the global economy than i do, but...
21:47.08excothey just closed down their factory in de... so they don't have good press around here atm...
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21:48.00excoMy second mobile was a Nokia ... it did it's job quite well ... never had one since though
21:48.21uplinkedyeah, first 3 phones were all nokia, loved them to death
21:48.38uplinkedthis was back in the day when i only wanted a phone that made calls- and they did so. with great efficacy.
21:49.25uplinkednow, i look at the n560, and can't really see anything past it's accute lack of GSM, or even CDMA.
21:49.26excoyes (bet you didn't "waste" as much time on those)
21:49.46uplinkedoh, for sure
21:50.05uplinkedit was "dial, click, call, hang up."
21:50.20excodon't you sometimes miss those days?
21:51.24uplinkedlast night, on wm6/hermes, i was calling voicemail to see what my mom had left, and mid-call, i heard the call-connecting ring. *shrugs* ok, i looked at the phone, and it still said "voicemail, connected" without indicatinig that i was in two calls. three rings later and my mom picks up...
21:51.32excoI sometimes just want to throw all that tech stuff out the window... being an eco ... NOT
21:51.32uplinkedi don't know how/why it decided to call her
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21:52.04uplinkedand especailly not at 4am. and especially not after some extra bonding time with jim beam...
21:52.08excoapparently the phone new?
21:52.20excooh... that sounds bad
21:52.27uplinkednew? no, 5 months old.
21:52.45excoand you couldn't just hang up either ... or she'd be scared sth happened to you
21:53.23uplinkedhaha, it'd have been a lot worse, except my phone is well reputed among my friends for it's sense of independance. most people i call have either gotten spontaneously dialed, or been dropped mid-convo due to hermes dialing someone else.
21:54.08uplinkedthis is why i want linux ATI SD support on hermes :-P
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22:15.38excogood night y'all
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