| 00:00.21 | cr2 | interesting |
| 00:01.16 | cr2 | sort|uniq |
| 00:11.49 | dcordes | 00: Mapping ac000000(@00000000) accesses to e1100000 (tbl 00000402) |
| 00:12.09 | dcordes | oh and lockup |
| 00:12.14 | dcordes | phone and wifi were on |
| 00:13.35 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:13.57 | cr2 | good night |
| 00:14.26 | dcordes | gnight |
| 00:17.09 | miknix | dcordes, do you have a i2c bus on your htc? |
| 00:23.38 | dcordes | miknix, er yes I think so. the touchscreen is connected to it afaik |
| 00:24.29 | miknix | dcordes, on linux-2.6.25 the i2c_init was removed from plat-omap/devices.c to i2c.c |
| 00:25.33 | dcordes | ok. the source tree http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm is based on is still 2.6.24 |
| 00:26.03 | miknix | dcordes, its a good version |
| 00:26.22 | miknix | on 2.6.26 they removed a lot of board dependent code from devices.c |
| 00:26.38 | miknix | it was a major breakage on wizard |
| 00:28.43 | dcordes | miknix, I'm not too good with all the kernel stuff. do you say devices.c for all the board-*.c files or is it something different? |
| 00:29.22 | miknix | dcordes, devices.c on arch/arm/plat-omap/device.c |
| 00:29.45 | miknix | that sounded a little contradictory : \ |
| 00:30.13 | miknix | that file has a lot of device initialization there full of exceptions for omap1 and omap2 |
| 00:30.21 | miknix | on 2.6.26 it was all removed |
| 00:30.38 | miknix | I guess we have to handle it ourselves on board file |
| 00:31.50 | dcordes | ah ok. the kaiser stuff is moving in arch/arm/mach-msm |
| 00:32.02 | miknix | ohhh |
| 00:32.12 | miknix | I thought it was omap too |
| 00:32.23 | dcordes | no htc kaiser is msm7200 |
| 00:32.53 | dcordes | maybe the confusion is because I asked you about prophet earlier or so |
| 00:33.38 | miknix | ah right |
| 00:33.44 | miknix | prophet is omap |
| 00:33.57 | miknix | dcordes, but you dont own a prophet? |
| 00:34.25 | dcordes | a former classmate of mine |
| 00:38.17 | dcordes | miknix, I won't be too much help there though. Could get him here for a day to haret it |
| 00:39.02 | dcordes | I tried one of the linwizard.sf images on it once. it booted with a perfect fb but then panniced at some point |
| 00:39.11 | miknix | panic? |
| 00:39.17 | miknix | that should be the filesystem |
| 00:39.21 | dcordes | could be |
| 00:39.26 | dcordes | was not too early |
| 00:39.34 | miknix | was it a tiny initrd? |
| 00:39.41 | dcordes | at least I saw some stuff initializing |
| 00:39.47 | dcordes | sorry can't recall |
| 00:40.02 | dcordes | I will have to dig through my stuff maybe I can find recordings |
| 00:40.20 | miknix | no problem |
| 00:41.30 | paulproteus | exco, rehi |
| 00:41.53 | dcordes | hi paulproteus |
| 00:42.16 | dcordes | miknix, btw since when are you working in mainline? last time I checked with you guys silven told me something about mvista |
| 00:42.29 | dcordes | I was fetching from a walrus server then :) |
| 00:42.45 | miknix | dcordes, we are in sync with linus |
| 00:42.59 | miknix | dcordes, and sometimes we merge with mvista |
| 00:43.40 | dcordes | miknix, can you make calls? |
| 00:43.48 | dcordes | or better do you have some status page? |
| 00:44.09 | paulproteus | dcordes, FYI I'm generating locales now in that build. |
| 00:44.24 | miknix | walrus.. hehe. not anymore. now the repo is on silven server at work. and we have mirroring on a gentoo server |
| 00:44.27 | dcordes | paulproteus, there is some conf/local.conf bit to cut that off |
| 00:44.35 | miknix | dcordes, http://linwizard.sourceforge.net |
| 00:44.43 | dcordes | miknix, I had a lot of fun with the walrus flash cartoon. |
| 00:44.50 | miknix | lol |
| 00:45.18 | miknix | I only saw the oooops page not found. with an image made on paint or something |
| 00:47.05 | dcordes | miknix, can't recall the url |
| 00:51.10 | paulproteus | dcordes, It's okay, that part finished at least. |
| 00:55.17 | exco | paulproteus: rehi |
| 00:56.53 | exco | BabelO's image starts booting °Angström but breaks after a while with an lcd problem |
| 01:01.17 | exco | Segmentation fault ... sth like toppoly LCD power off!) failed with error ... |
| 01:01.18 | exco | http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/953/pict6736bf6.jpg |
| 01:06.41 | paulproteus | exco, Boy, that's pretty weird. |
| 01:07.36 | dcordes | exco, is that the prophet? |
| 01:07.37 | exco | all I did was extract the image to the ext partition, copy the modules to it, and start it with hret? |
| 01:07.44 | exco | blueangel |
| 01:08.02 | exco | I mean extract the tar |
| 01:08.05 | dcordes | no that's definetly not blueangel |
| 01:08.27 | dcordes | blueangel is like a boat and has a keyboard |
| 01:08.38 | paulproteus | That's a photo of Magician running a BA imgae. |
| 01:08.40 | exco | http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/Qtopia/ |
| 01:08.44 | paulproteus | exco, That should do it - you're sure you removed everything else on the ext3 partition? |
| 01:09.01 | exco | I started with a blank sd card |
| 01:09.03 | dcordes | exco, you tried to boot a blueangel image on this device on the photo? |
| 01:09.29 | exco | yes, but I replaced the modules and started it with the according zimage |
| 01:09.30 | dcordes | that is a charmer, isn't it? |
| 01:09.36 | exco | it is a Magician |
| 01:09.38 | dcordes | I see |
| 01:10.33 | exco | what I still don't understand is why the contents of the generated image differ from the extracted tar |
| 01:10.38 | paulproteus | exco, Er, they do? |
| 01:10.38 | dcordes | no clue, sorry. never cam across that error |
| 01:11.23 | exco | well, if I understand BabelO correct, they should be equal |
| 01:11.57 | exco | that's what I'm trying to figure out for the last like 2 days :-) |
| 01:12.45 | exco | paulproteus: you tried the OM only from the generated image, or did you extract and use it with hret? |
| 01:13.04 | paulproteus | exco, I'm just using the image you gave me. |
| 01:13.55 | exco | what I did is - extract the tar of that OM image then update modules and run it with haret |
| 01:14.13 | exco | after that the usb didn't work - and I could not understand why |
| 01:14.19 | paulproteus | exco, Oh, I see. |
| 01:14.23 | paulproteus | And you umounted? |
| 01:14.28 | exco | yes, |
| 01:14.35 | paulproteus | Interesting. |
| 01:14.37 | exco | checked multiple times |
| 01:15.02 | exco | so then I mounted the generated img to a folder and tried to find the differences to the extracted tar |
| 01:15.08 | exco | turns out |
| 01:15.54 | exco | 2secs |
| 01:17.41 | exco | extracted : http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6251/extractedgp6.png |
| 01:18.03 | exco | mounted : http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3043/mountedbi7.png |
| 01:18.32 | exco | I would say there could be substantial differences |
| 01:19.25 | paulproteus | 3817 files in one, 3202 in the other. |
| 01:20.03 | exco | maybe it's because with the image there get's sth executed the first run, that causes these changes, |
| 01:20.06 | exco | (initrd?) |
| 01:20.18 | dcordes | you have problems extracting a rootfs? |
| 01:20.28 | exco | ? |
| 01:20.29 | dcordes | try extracting as root |
| 01:20.37 | paulproteus | Yes, be sure to. |
| 01:20.37 | exco | that's what I'm doing |
| 01:20.45 | exco | I'm running krusader as root |
| 01:21.22 | exco | there is still a difference - the img boots at least one time |
| 01:21.42 | exco | but as I said like usb and other stuff is missing if I only extract and run |
| 01:21.49 | dcordes | sudo tar xvf myrootfs.tar.gz |
| 01:22.05 | exco | so maybe I'm just supposed to pass an extra parameter in hret that I'm forgetting about |
| 01:22.08 | dcordes | maybe that gui is doing some crap |
| 01:23.04 | exco | I was trying to synchronize those dirs, but krusader hangs each time (must be some permission problems because the files in the image have different owners?) |
| 01:26.22 | miknix | meh |
| 01:26.23 | miknix | http://pastebin.com/d591a2541 |
| 01:26.27 | miknix | i2c is finally running |
| 01:26.33 | miknix | cr2, ping |
| 01:33.28 | exco | do I need to set initrd |
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| 01:49.00 | exco | paulproteus: still here? |
| 01:49.10 | paulproteus | exco, Yes |
| 01:49.14 | paulproteus | A bit distracted. |
| 01:52.55 | exco | can you verify my the outcome ? |
| 01:52.56 | exco | mount -t ext2 -o loop ../openmoko.linux.img .../mountfoler/ |
| 01:52.56 | exco | extract the tar and compare |
| 02:06.08 | exco | well... maybe you can make sth of it... http://pastebin.com/m44e8716a |
| 02:10.52 | exco | goin' for a reboot |
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| 02:24.37 | exco | back |
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| 03:40.36 | exco | paulproteus: ... that couldn't have gone worse ... what a gigantic waste of time ... |
| 03:40.36 | exco | the different filecount results from first boot ... so all set for the next step then |
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| 03:53.35 | exco | !pastebin |
| 03:53.38 | exco | pastebin |
| 03:54.36 | exco | paulproteus: http://de.pastebin.ca/1008985 |
| 03:59.00 | exco | still some way to 2007.11 |
| 04:46.48 | exco | wiki |
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| 05:00.51 | exco | good morning |
| 05:01.06 | goxboxlive | hi |
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| 05:43.41 | exco | can I restart the OM ui using ssh |
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| 08:03.20 | BabelO_ | hello |
| 08:03.52 | kiozen | BabelO_: hi |
| 08:04.34 | BabelO_ | kiozen: avout the elevation display, is it possible to turn the shadow light ? |
| 08:04.49 | kiozen | you mean direction? |
| 08:06.14 | kiozen | BabelO_: direction can't be changed, the ilusion does not work the other way around, blame your brain :) |
| 08:07.06 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok :( |
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| 08:08.08 | kiozen | BabelO_: well take it easy, every map with contour shading is like that. |
| 08:08.43 | kiozen | Big advantage of living in the southern hemisphere :) |
| 08:09.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, so there is no other method ? i'll try to look with the nvidia cuda toolkit to implement something :) |
| 08:09.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: the problem is that our brain does not accept it. |
| 08:10.36 | kiozen | BabelO_: the other way round mountains would sink into the map, instead of rising |
| 08:11.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so the plan need to be shown as 3D |
| 08:12.51 | cr2 | hi |
| 08:13.02 | kiozen | BabelO_: but that would need propper OpenGL graphic adapter. |
| 08:13.29 | BabelO_ | hi cr2 |
| 08:13.30 | cr2 | kiozen: GT was segfaulting on a missing DEM when i've downloaded the maps from BabelO |
| 08:13.39 | BabelO_ | cr2: fixed :) |
| 08:13.43 | cr2 | ok |
| 08:13.46 | kiozen | BabelO_: you can try it by chnaging line 381 in CMapDEM.cpp to "*pixel++ = 128 - data[i] * 100 / f;" |
| 08:14.17 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, else that's a good idea for me to play / use CUDA toolkit |
| 08:14.18 | cr2 | BabelO_: fixed in the code, or by adding the missing file ? :) |
| 08:14.41 | kiozen | cr2: the first |
| 08:15.19 | kiozen | BabelO_: I would have a good idea for the CUDA toolkit |
| 08:15.24 | BabelO_ | cr2: kiozen fix bug fastest than you can found a new one |
| 08:15.33 | kiozen | lol |
| 08:15.50 | kiozen | imho cr2 always hold some back for this case :) |
| 08:16.38 | kiozen | cr2: you can tell your fellow that there is an offical binary release on sf.net now |
| 08:22.28 | cr2 | ok. |
| 08:24.36 | kiozen | cr2: btw any new from the infamous lcdspi? |
| 08:26.26 | cr2 | kiozen: have fear :) i'm rechecking all other gpio setup, and the cpld gpios. will try today in the evening, and will write the ba6 driver too. |
| 08:27.34 | kiozen | cr2: thus you blow up the Loox this evening and i have to tell my wife that I need an ASUS696? |
| 08:30.52 | cr2 | lol |
| 08:31.35 | kiozen | cr2: but seriously what can happen? |
| 08:31.55 | cr2 | kiozen: btw, there is a linux patch for asus696. it looks ugly but can be cleaned up. i'll add it to hh.org CVS. at least some parts of it. |
| 08:32.39 | cr2 | kiozen: a bit may slip, and the LCD will get some weird timing, or will switch something off while running other parts. |
| 08:33.26 | kiozen | how large is the risk to brick it? |
| 08:33.27 | cr2 | kiozen: we have no idea what these bits are doing. toppoly keeps it top secret for some reason. |
| 08:33.38 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what is your idea fopr cuda toolkit ? |
| 08:33.56 | cr2 | even the moko phone sends such bits without any explanation. |
| 08:34.12 | kiozen | BabelO_: let's pm, not to spam the channel |
| 08:34.33 | cr2 | kiozen: if i'll check all things and will do exactly what wince is doing, then nothing should go really wrong. |
| 08:34.54 | kiozen | cr2: let's see, no risk no fun :)) |
| 08:35.07 | cr2 | :) |
| 08:35.20 | cr2 | don't want to brick such nice device. |
| 08:35.31 | kiozen | cr2: I belive you |
| 08:40.50 | cr2 | kiozen: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/MyPal696SeriesHardware |
| 08:41.28 | kiozen | cr2: does it resume :) |
| 08:41.44 | cr2 | hmm. don't think so. |
| 08:42.12 | cr2 | Suspend/Resume - |
| 08:42.20 | cr2 | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/MyPal696 |
| 08:44.19 | kiozen | cr2: let's better stick to the Loox :) |
| 08:44.52 | cr2 | sure |
| 08:45.26 | cr2 | he could have done better if posted the haret output and the pxa27x dump. |
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| 09:18.05 | BabelO_ | cr2: did you start to clone mobile linux git ? |
| 09:34.23 | cr2 | BabelO_: no. i'll wait for it to stabilize. |
| 09:35.43 | cr2 | BabelO_: if you'd add n560 and athena there, that will be nice. |
| 09:36.07 | BabelO_ | cr2: i add artemis, easier for a start project |
| 09:36.13 | cr2 | BabelO_: i'll test the lcdspi today, and will update the n560 and ba6 |
| 09:36.28 | BabelO_ | cr2: you have done the code ? |
| 09:38.05 | cr2 | yes, but i need to remove the unnecessary gpios, and add gpio_dir() calls. |
| 09:38.16 | cr2 | on suspend/resume |
| 09:43.39 | cr2 | BabelO_: athena support is 2 files now http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcathena |
| 09:44.09 | cr2 | BabelO_: n560 is a bit more, but i'll add gps/bt to athena too. the setup is mostly the same as n560 |
| 09:44.40 | BabelO_ | cr2: ok, i hope that running 2.6.25 on artemis can solve me some part |
| 09:49.59 | cr2 | yes, if not that asic3_mmc we'd have switched long ago. |
| 09:50.38 | cr2 | here. kaiser uses cpld gpio bitbanging ;) but for other nasty purposes. |
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| 10:10.34 | BabelO_ | cr2: the keys on cpld gpio are i2c bitbang ? |
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| 10:52.34 | cr2 | BabelO_: on wizard et al. ? yes. all cpld gpio ops are normal i2c |
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| 11:47.54 | miknix | BabelO, hey |
| 11:57.20 | exco | hossa |
| 12:04.02 | miknix | hossa? |
| 12:09.52 | exco | (I feel like singing the song... probably I should have gone to bed...) |
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| 12:46.02 | miknix | cr2, hey |
| 12:49.39 | marbalon | hi everyone! |
| 12:49.53 | marbalon | I have a problem with input driver |
| 12:50.02 | marbalon | here is a source http://baliniak.pl/~balon/android/new_kbd.c |
| 12:51.40 | marbalon | input device is registered, open function called, gets DBD info about press and rel btn but no keys send to console :( |
| 12:51.45 | cr2 | hi miknix |
| 12:52.02 | miknix | cr2, I finally got the I2C driver working |
| 12:52.25 | miknix | cr2, I can create a char device node for the i2c bus |
| 12:52.50 | cr2 | marbalon: i've added more kaiser gpio/cpld/DMA/DEX data. have even more data about cpld. need to think how will we overcome the SD problem. |
| 12:52.58 | cr2 | miknix: i2c tools work ? |
| 12:53.09 | miknix | cr2, from lm_sensors? |
| 12:54.17 | cr2 | yes |
| 12:54.29 | cr2 | it's the first thing to check next. |
| 12:54.36 | miknix | cr2, I'll try then |
| 12:54.36 | marbalon | cr2: ok, thanks. when finish I kbd driver, try to write mmc |
| 12:55.09 | marbalon | cr2: can you look at my kbd driver ? |
| 12:56.20 | cr2 | marbalon: it works ? btw, i guess to don't handle the gpio_alt funcs ? |
| 12:58.25 | marbalon | cr2: evertyting works fine IRQs occurs, but no keys event to console |
| 12:59.17 | cr2 | strange. |
| 12:59.30 | marbalon | cr2: DBG info looks ok "key rel: row..." key rel:....." |
| 13:01.17 | marbalon | ""press: row..." to ofcourse |
| 13:01.47 | cr2 | marbalon: ok, the _alt() is something to think about, but it's a real can of worms :) |
| 13:03.01 | marbalon | _alt() ?? |
| 13:03.37 | cr2 | you need to configure all these gpios on suspend/resume |
| 13:04.00 | cr2 | it's all documented in the wiki, but the actual gpio control code needs to be implemented. |
| 13:04.14 | cr2 | android code moves that to the rpc. |
| 13:05.09 | cr2 | there are some other things we need to do ourselves, instead of relying on some non-existent amss microkernel. |
| 13:05.32 | cr2 | like the clock control, VREG / power IC communication. |
| 13:06.15 | cr2 | the DMOV code needs some changes IMHO. it's used by bluetoooth. |
| 13:13.28 | kiozen | cr2: do we have a rootfs that boots without flaws into linux to demonstrate M on the N560? |
| 13:13.37 | kiozen | cr2: resume is not important. |
| 13:13.57 | kiozen | just to show that M is working on the device |
| 13:14.20 | kiozen | cr2: it should boot into M directly |
| 13:16.37 | cr2 | kiozen: if you'll add it to inittab, as you wanted. but you may get a problem if exited. |
| 13:17.16 | cr2 | i'm using your rootfs with removed weird files, added gpsd and roadmap. |
| 13:17.37 | cr2 | with disabled LCD suspend it works as expected. |
| 13:17.52 | kiozen | I need something to show off on Thursday evening |
| 13:17.56 | cr2 | will test it today evening |
| 13:18.19 | kiozen | I think I have to add some reboot option, right? |
| 13:18.30 | cr2 | the backlight control works, but you should do something on the qtopia side to use it. /sys/blabla/generic-bl |
| 13:18.47 | cr2 | reboot works from the command line. |
| 13:19.04 | cr2 | resume resumes into wince yet, so it's not very helpful ;) |
| 13:19.24 | kiozen | cr2: no worries, as long as it shows a map and opens the gps to show the position it's great |
| 13:19.39 | cr2 | my main goal is to prevent resuming into wince first. then it will mean that linux will get control. |
| 13:20.02 | kiozen | and it has to switch bach to wince propperly |
| 13:20.11 | cr2 | yes, that one works for me since i#ve added the gps driver, and you've fixed the GSOD |
| 13:20.27 | kiozen | a fellow geocacher bought a loox and wants demonstration |
| 13:20.50 | cr2 | implement reboot or resume qtopia hooks, then you'll get back into wince. |
| 13:20.54 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:20.58 | kiozen | thus if I can't show i loose my reputation |
| 13:21.03 | kiozen | :) |
| 13:21.14 | cr2 | i'll add the BT too. |
| 13:21.29 | kiozen | did you test gps on BT |
| 13:21.41 | cr2 | on Th i'm away |
| 13:22.33 | cr2 | no, bcause one my bt gps is dead (at least the BT side), and i can't find the other one. hcitool scan on the notebook sees it. |
| 13:22.56 | cr2 | it=loox |
| 13:22.59 | kiozen | then we stick to the internal one |
| 13:23.27 | kiozen | let's try to assemble a rootfs this evening |
| 13:23.33 | cr2 | ok, recompile the rootfs then. and add the bkl/reboot hooks. |
| 13:23.42 | kiozen | I will be online around 21:30 |
| 13:23.44 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:24.14 | kiozen | hope this works litterally out-of-the box |
| 13:24.28 | kiozen | can't test it befor show time |
| 13:24.29 | cr2 | lol, i can hook 76Cx :) |
| 13:25.01 | cr2 | btw, it works as i've told you. |
| 13:25.14 | kiozen | what? |
| 13:25.39 | cr2 | i can mount the microsd card, don't have a program to use usb datalink. |
| 13:25.52 | cr2 | hooking 76Cx to loox over usb. |
| 13:25.58 | kiozen | ok |
| 13:26.13 | kiozen | right now I am happy with a simple solution |
| 13:26.33 | cr2 | i routinely use the usb keyboard and mouse for loox. |
| 13:27.14 | cr2 | with external power you can connect a stick. and i guess a hdd. i may check it ;) |
| 13:27.17 | kiozen | it's monthly gechaching meeting (stammtisch) on Thurthday, so enought public around to make a complete ideot out of myself |
| 13:27.50 | kiozen | cr2: please, a simple working rootfs is ok |
| 13:27.55 | cr2 | works stable for me, when i don't press wrog buttons. |
| 13:28.09 | kiozen | no stunts! |
| 13:28.25 | cr2 | i'm just checking the peripherals. |
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| 13:28.41 | cr2 | the usb host driver worked always before. |
| 13:29.22 | cr2 | check the BKL handler in BabelO's qtopia code. |
| 13:29.54 | cr2 | pick the fresh hh.org CVS kernel and compile the linload.exe |
| 13:30.11 | cr2 | i'll do a completely clean test then. |
| 13:30.35 | cr2 | bbl |
| 13:30.43 | kiozen | thanks, bbl |
| 13:33.18 | exco | is there a top or htop for smartphone? |
| 13:35.21 | dcordes | can somebody hint me on how to try out AT communication? |
| 13:46.29 | exco | sth like this: ? Phonesim is strictly a developer tool, segfaults a lot and is supposed to run on the desktop, or wherever youâre coding, although it can run anywhere. It simulates a dummy GSM modem, you can run Qtopia or other tool that talks to a modem (QEMU, gsmd, gnokii) and make it connect to phonesim. Sometimes it will work and sometimes it wonât because phonesim understands just a minimum subset of standard AT |
| 13:49.02 | exco | dcordes: at communication: http://unadventure.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/qpe-430-plus-qemu/ |
| 13:52.56 | dcordes | moin exco |
| 13:53.13 | exco | guten Morgen |
| 13:53.29 | dcordes | been working all night on magician images? |
| 13:54.05 | exco | well... basically I'm trying to read up on how stuff is done in linux... (a whole new world) |
| 13:54.26 | exco | and... yes... but I wasn't too lucky |
| 13:55.50 | exco | the img from BabelO's blueangel boots partially ... the goxboxes gives me the black screen after dpkg upgrade... |
| 13:56.03 | dcordes | ipkg? |
| 13:56.03 | exco | ipkg... of course |
| 13:56.44 | exco | we'll but I had a small success... I turned my led's red orange green blue and purple :-) |
| 13:56.49 | dcordes | that can probably be caused when ipkg fetches kernel modules for a new kernel version but you do not upgrade your zImage accordingly |
| 13:57.21 | exco | but shouldn't it put those new kernel modules in a separate folder? |
| 13:57.38 | miknix | revertive, can you show your i2c dumps to cr2 plz? |
| 13:58.04 | dcordes | exco, ah right. don't let me confuse you :) |
| 13:58.10 | revertive | miknix: http://pastebin.com/m534aeae <- this is the only thing ive got so far |
| 13:58.23 | miknix | cr2, http://pastebin.com/m534aeae |
| 13:58.32 | exco | we'll I can still ssh but freezes on first command like ping google.de |
| 14:00.25 | exco | It was just a try anyways... I could upgrade 2007.2 but then I tried upgrading to 2007.11 |
| 14:05.40 | exco | did someone besides goxbox ever compile an image for Magician? |
| 14:08.44 | cr2 | miknix: what about running 'i2cdump' ? |
| 14:09.01 | revertive | cr2: http://pastebin.com/maaaf043 |
| 14:09.10 | revertive | cr2: it crashed after that |
| 14:09.36 | miknix | cr2, crashed with blinking backlight and keyboard lights |
| 14:13.12 | exco | what are the interesting files to look at in an image? (to learn from) |
| 14:16.42 | cr2 | revertive: ok. was it an oops ? |
| 14:17.01 | exco | is there a command to recalibrate the touchscreen (I tried if it was as fancy as Win.. - it is not!) |
| 14:17.26 | revertive | cr2: oops? |
| 14:17.53 | cr2 | oops in the kernel, or just hanged without any message on the console ? |
| 14:18.27 | cr2 | exco: ts_calibrate is a console framebuffer command |
| 14:18.35 | dcordes | hi cr2 |
| 14:18.42 | exco | thx, cr2 |
| 14:18.52 | miknix | cr2, yeah it looks like a kernel panic. but without blinking caps_lock it was blinking backlight |
| 14:19.07 | revertive | cr2: just hangs without any message |
| 14:19.26 | revertive | cr2: whitescreen + blinking keypad backlight |
| 14:19.47 | miknix | cr2, but I've some panics before and backlight didn't blink. this is something new and has to do with i2c |
| 14:21.47 | cr2 | exco: but you need to install the tslib tools to use it |
| 14:22.19 | cr2 | miknix: i don't know exactly how the backlight is controller on omap850. |
| 14:22.30 | cr2 | s/controller/controlled/ |
| 14:22.54 | cr2 | miknix: if you see an oops, put it ito wiki. |
| 14:23.21 | dcordes | cr2, I received some intel from NZ concerning SMD1 and AT regs. do you know how I can try out if the channels operate? |
| 14:23.55 | cr2 | dcordes: no, because the mmutrace does not work on DEX shareable areas for some reason. |
| 14:24.10 | cr2 | dcordes: do you know some details on DEX ? |
| 14:24.12 | dcordes | cr2, what's DEX now? |
| 14:24.56 | cr2 | don't know for sure, but it's some DataEXchange "protocol" between ARM9 aka mARM and ARM11 aka aARM |
| 14:24.59 | dcordes | he gave me SMD1 (which is a data channel) and AT regs |
| 14:25.30 | cr2 | i only know that SMD7 is gps, that's all |
| 14:25.43 | cr2 | whatever that means. |
| 14:26.25 | dcordes | 122b0: data send, head and tail at 122a4 and 122a8, size=1520 |
| 14:26.25 | dcordes | 404d8: data receive, head and tail at 404cc and 404d0, size=1b68 |
| 14:26.25 | dcordes | 04200: AT send, head and tail at 041fc and 04200, size=1018 |
| 14:26.25 | dcordes | 32430: AT receive, head and tail at 32424 and 32428, size= 1674 |
| 14:26.53 | dcordes | I put them as AT tx rx and SMD1 tx rx |
| 14:27.00 | cr2 | checked with out wiki ? |
| 14:27.42 | BabelO_ | cr2: it seem that miknix and revertive have same issue than me on artemis, so it is not my fault with doing wrong thing while merging hh and omap tree |
| 14:28.06 | dcordes | cr2, yes values are similar and some match |
| 14:28.29 | miknix | BabelO, the oops? |
| 14:29.13 | BabelO_ | miknix: no oops for me, the device freeze |
| 14:29.22 | BabelO_ | miknix: same while accessing mmc |
| 14:29.37 | miknix | BabelO, whats connected to the i2c? |
| 14:29.44 | miknix | BabelO, besides dpad? |
| 14:29.45 | cr2 | dcordes: well, add them to the source and check. |
| 14:30.00 | cr2 | miknix: do you know the cam model ? |
| 14:30.17 | miknix | cr2, cam model how so? |
| 14:30.19 | cr2 | BabelO: which cam/i2c id do you have ? |
| 14:30.26 | dcordes | cr2, I did and that's where I am: I have no clue how to test. Dmesg looks same as before. (it gives the smd initialized correctly message) |
| 14:30.29 | cr2 | BabelO: does fm use i2c ? |
| 14:30.42 | miknix | cr2, oh no, I dont know it |
| 14:31.06 | cr2 | dcordes: start android ramfs ? |
| 14:31.15 | cr2 | miknix: ok. |
| 14:31.56 | dcordes | cr2, kernel is too big so I ripped some stuff outta the conf but that made booting freeze. Ripping th initrd made android loading freeze |
| 14:32.15 | dcordes | could you look at my .config? It's just some 400K I need |
| 14:32.44 | cr2 | dcordes: i have no idea how it's used. |
| 14:33.00 | dcordes | nvm I'll just try out some changes |
| 14:34.50 | dcordes | cr2, but should not SMD driver provide a serial interface or anything? I tried hexdump /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttySA but these nodes are not active |
| 14:34.51 | exco | android... for propaganda? |
| 14:35.00 | miknix | cr2, its not a oops |
| 14:35.05 | miknix | cr2, ssh still works |
| 14:36.42 | cr2 | after i2cdetect ? |
| 14:36.50 | miknix | cr2, yes |
| 14:37.15 | cr2 | dcordes: i think that AT interface should be on some serial tty |
| 14:37.38 | cr2 | exco: yes, for some upaid google propaganda |
| 14:37.45 | dcordes | cr2, at least dmesg doesn't mention any |
| 14:37.49 | miknix | cr2, oh.. it stopped blinking |
| 14:38.14 | cr2 | miknix: the LED control is on some omap850 pwm ? |
| 14:38.17 | miknix | cr2, i2c_omap.1 controller time out |
| 14:38.27 | exco | well... I think you'll get a lot of hits on even partially working Android images |
| 14:38.45 | miknix | cr2, i2c_omap i2c_omap.1: RDDY IRQ while no data requested |
| 14:39.03 | cr2 | miknix: but maybe they have something in the cpld for other leds. leds is the last thing to worry about. |
| 14:39.23 | cr2 | miknix: so, mybe the bus was just confused by probing all addreses. |
| 14:39.26 | miknix | cr2, backlight is definitively controller by i2c |
| 14:39.30 | BabelO_ | cr2: there is already a Backlight driver on 2.6.26 for omap |
| 14:39.42 | BabelO_ | cr2: i did not check the i2c trame for camera and FM |
| 14:40.03 | cr2 | hmm. ok i don't know the details. i'll say gpio comes first. |
| 14:40.04 | BabelO_ | cr2: no sure about FM if it is i2c or not i did not check in nk |
| 14:40.37 | cr2 | BabelO_: but if you see the i2c traffic for cam, you'd see it for the fm too. if any. |
| 14:40.39 | miknix | cr2, BabelO after all this blinking party, the screen brightness is higher |
| 14:41.12 | BabelO_ | cr2: yes i think to but i was able to trace camera because i use USB network, for FM i cannot do like that |
| 14:41.45 | miknix | cr2, BabelO echo 1 -n > /dev/i2c-1 turns off screen, backlight and keyboard leds |
| 14:41.47 | BabelO_ | miknix: maybe i ve done something wrong with my i2c ack |
| 14:42.22 | BabelO_ | miknix: and device qtill works ? |
| 14:42.30 | BabelO_ | s/qtill/still/ |
| 14:42.37 | miknix | BabelO, yes |
| 14:42.48 | miknix | BabelO, I have a lot of timeouts on dmesg |
| 14:43.51 | miknix | I have to work on university stuff |
| 14:44.03 | miknix | I'll be back a night |
| 14:44.35 | BabelO_ | miknix: ok |
| 14:44.43 | miknix | PS: IMHO, i2c has something to do with backlight brightness control, keyboard leds and some other power stuff. |
| 14:45.17 | BabelO_ | miknix: yes that is what cr2 say while looking at nk.exe :) |
| 14:45.33 | miknix | that blink party seemed some kind of hardware fault message to "unknown command" |
| 14:45.36 | miknix | or something |
| 14:48.56 | miknix | BabelO, http://polaris.lurian.net/linwizard-kernel.git/ branch MMC2 |
| 14:49.03 | miknix | BabelO, is the one we are using |
| 14:49.55 | miknix | fetching it should not take too long since both repos are based on mainline linus |
| 15:02.33 | dcordes | cr2, made a 900K kernel image now. hope that boots. do you know how we can check how reset button is used? |
| 15:03.36 | dcordes | cr2, it is not working since I have htc-egpio |
| 15:05.01 | dcordes | booting. now booting with android initrd |
| 15:13.58 | cr2 | miknix: you'd create the WizardCPLD wiki page like ArtemisCPLD |
| 15:18.48 | dcordes | cr2, I didn't trace keyboard irqs yet with the second irq register in haret |
| 15:20.29 | dcordes | android shows provider username and service password now when I pass them in cmdline |
| 15:20.37 | dcordes | but freezes at some point |
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| 15:27.23 | BabelO_ | kiozen: around ? |
| 15:29.50 | dcordes | ah no luck |
| 15:30.16 | dcordes | I pushed the register settings in case somebody is brave and going to try them with their android |
| 15:30.18 | dcordes | bbl |
| 15:30.38 | dcordes | ~ping infernix |
| 15:30.39 | apt | pong infernix |
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| 16:41.41 | infernix | pong |
| 16:45.07 | exco | which folder is ds2760-battery.0 normally located in? |
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| 17:01.19 | dcordes | infernix, can you try and build from linuxtogo with kaiser smd and boot android? |
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| 17:52.45 | BabelO_ | ola pH5 :) |
| 17:53.59 | pH5 | hej BabelO_ |
| 17:54.32 | BabelO_ | pH5: your htc egpio driver in mainline looks very good |
| 17:54.41 | BabelO_ | pH5: i ve some question about it |
| 17:57.22 | pH5 | BabelO_: thanks. that's what one or two rounds of review can do for you :) |
| 17:58.36 | BabelO_ | pH5: http://pastebin.ca/1009549 this is what i do for artemis |
| 17:58.54 | BabelO_ | pH5: but if i understand well , i need to declare each gpio bank one by one ? |
| 17:59.06 | BabelO_ | pH5: like the asic3 struct ? |
| 18:00.06 | BabelO_ | oups i forgot to remove resources |
| 18:00.09 | pH5 | BabelO_: you can fit up to 32 gpios in adjacent registeros into one htc_egpio_chip |
| 18:01.09 | BabelO_ | pH5: can you show me an example ? i see that i can set one by one bits and not pins declaration like it is done in hh cvs |
| 18:01.43 | pH5 | BabelO_: don't you have 4 16-bit registers on artemis? |
| 18:02.21 | pH5 | the ArtemisCPLD page still has the '8bit registers', but I think that can't be true if they are accessed with ldrh/strh |
| 18:02.40 | pH5 | (because your B,D,E offsets are not 16bit aligned) |
| 18:04.02 | BabelO_ | pH5: only thing i m sure is that i can initialize each gpio like this and it works http://pastebin.ca/1009554 |
| 18:04.15 | BabelO_ | this is what i do with hh cvs sources |
| 18:05.28 | pH5 | wait, so you really have 7 8bit registers but they are 16bit spaced? |
| 18:05.47 | pH5 | then the offsets given in ArtemisCPLD are wrong |
| 18:06.56 | pH5 | and D is counted twice, so they end with F, not with G |
| 18:07.41 | pH5 | if this is true, you should have .reg_width=8, .bus_width=16 |
| 18:08.14 | pH5 | you have to split into two egpio_chips because you have >32 gpios |
| 18:08.25 | BabelO_ | ok :) |
| 18:08.59 | BabelO_ | pH5: yes cr2 remove all MSB because not used |
| 18:09.00 | pH5 | so that'd be one egpio_chip with .reg_start=0, .num_gpios=32 and one with .reg_start=4, .num_gpios=24 |
| 18:09.44 | pH5 | is that cpld strictly output only? |
| 18:10.04 | cr2 | pH5: all these cpld chips are equal. with alpine being the only exception |
| 18:10.19 | BabelO_ | pH5: with only the disassembly, it looks yes output gpio only |
| 18:10.46 | BabelO_ | pH5: why reg_start=4 ? |
| 18:10.47 | cr2 | pH5: but the number of registers differ. |
| 18:10.57 | BabelO_ | pH5: where i set the cpld base adress ? |
| 18:11.09 | pH5 | BabelO_: first gpio_chip has 32 gpios, that's registers 0,1,2,3 with 8 gpios each |
| 18:11.25 | pH5 | the second chip is for registers 4,5,6 |
| 18:11.53 | pH5 | the actual memory address is calculated from bus_width, reg_width and the iomem start address |
| 18:12.13 | BabelO_ | pH5: ah i miss the iomem parameters then |
| 18:12.58 | pH5 | BabelO_: it's the IOMEM_RESOURCE .start |
| 18:13.31 | cr2 | pH5: hm. asic3 will need 4 htc-egpio in such classification ? |
| 18:16.55 | pH5 | cr2: yes, one gpio_chip for each bank would make sense |
| 18:17.49 | pH5 | but I'd keep htc-egpio for fixed-direction gpio expanders only. asic3-gpio probably should have its own implementation. |
| 18:18.19 | pH5 | can be simplified because it's fixed register size (16bit) |
| 18:27.02 | BabelO_ | bbl , back to home :) |
| 18:27.07 | cr2 | pH5: ok. |
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| 18:56.42 | BabelO | good |
| 19:15.45 | BabelO | hmm, nobody, everybody sleeping |
| 19:15.58 | BabelO | need to wait kiozen then |
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| 19:16.53 | BabelO | i say, he come :) |
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| 19:20.53 | BabelO | kiozen: done :) |
| 19:26.58 | exco | BabelO: I ran your img (blueangel) with Magician kernel & Modules ... goes well to about 1/4th |
| 19:26.59 | paulproteus | waves |
| 19:27.19 | exco | then I get a white screen every 2seconds and some lcd error |
| 19:27.46 | exco | waves back :-) |
| 19:27.54 | BabelO | exco: what is 1/4th ? |
| 19:28.16 | exco | 1/4th of the Angstrom status bar (lodading bar) |
| 19:28.51 | BabelO | exco: ah ok, and you wait enough, because on first boot it stop at 1/4th |
| 19:29.23 | exco | says toppoly LCD power off!) failed with error `N |
| 19:30.29 | exco | now I could use it as signal light for an airplaine :-P |
| 19:30.49 | BabelO | exco: strange, not related to ba image |
| 19:31.10 | exco | paulproteus: well... I haven't built a new image - but : http://de.pastebin.ca/1009640 |
| 19:31.12 | majorburn | http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ Download Speed: 53842 kbps (6730.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 7617 kbps (952.1 KB/sec transfer rate) |
| 19:31.44 | BabelO | majorburn: fiber ? |
| 19:32.17 | exco | BabelO: we'll I honestly don't know |
| 19:32.36 | majorburn | from the traceroutes' path's dns it looks like it's a gige trunk |
| 19:33.37 | paulproteus | exco, Interesting - can you try using http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/ instead of http://buildhost.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/ perhaps? |
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| 19:35.45 | kiozen_ | BabelO: done what? |
| 19:35.54 | exco | I can try... it's a bit of a pain ... because if sth doesn't work you have to try to find out which package ... try again in a different order... as you see there were dozen's of updates - but is it sensible - and do we expect to get a decent image doing so? |
| 19:36.08 | kiozen_ | hi btw :) |
| 19:36.08 | BabelO | kiozen_: Hough transform, if you see what i mean :) |
| 19:36.18 | pikapika | hi |
| 19:36.37 | kiozen_ | errrrr, what ...? |
| 19:36.59 | kiozen_ | BabelO: you did the stitching? |
| 19:37.40 | BabelO | kiozen_: yes on a test image, but not the stitching only detection |
| 19:37.52 | kiozen_ | ahhhh |
| 19:38.13 | kiozen_ | screeny? |
| 19:38.39 | BabelO | at office , sorry, tomorrow :) |
| 19:39.57 | BabelO | it is a school case, need to fix bugs i send you C code, don't know how to implement it in GT |
| 19:40.35 | kiozen_ | ok |
| 19:41.02 | kiozen_ | cr2: BabelO: what is the best way to tell Linux to reboot from a QT app? |
| 19:41.18 | BabelO | system('reboot'); |
| 19:41.20 | BabelO | lol |
| 19:41.23 | majorburn | heh |
| 19:41.29 | BabelO | with sticky bit |
| 19:42.04 | BabelO | or writing 1234 to interrupt vector... but that is for windows |
| 19:43.51 | kiozen_ | ok system('reboot'); thought there is a smarter way :) |
| 19:44.41 | kiozen_ | cr2: in the current state of the n560 kernel this would boot into wince right? |
| 19:45.05 | paulproteus | exco, "Expect" is a little strong. |
| 19:45.21 | cr2 | kiozen_: yes |
| 19:45.41 | exco | paulproteus: won't it be the "cleaner" solution to build a new image? |
| 19:45.55 | paulproteus | exco, Absolutely. I will retry that in a few hours. |
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| 19:46.47 | exco | I also installed all the neccessary stuff ... but for configuring :-* |
| 19:46.53 | exco | hahaha |
| 19:46.59 | kiozen__ | grrr, my wifi connection is shit |
| 19:47.18 | exco | that was not the intended smily |
| 19:49.39 | cr2 | kiozen__: yes, it's enough |
| 19:49.56 | cr2 | kiozen__: if reboot is in the PATH :) |
| 19:50.19 | kiozen__ | cr2: is it? (don't really know) |
| 19:50.40 | kiozen__ | hm looks like |
| 19:51.36 | exco | paulproteus: made a backup and will now try to upgrade some more :-) |
| 19:51.44 | paulproteus | exco, Cool (-: |
| 19:51.56 | paulproteus | exco, But BTW if you want to try building an openmoko-devel-image in OE, that's the best thing to try. |
| 19:52.05 | exco | btw. is there a way to start haret using autostart ? (the win2003se setup each time sucks) |
| 19:52.07 | paulproteus | I will retry that myself later today, unless I get even busier than I think I am. (-: |
| 19:52.17 | paulproteus | exco, It does suck. I don't know of a way that would survive a hard reset. |
| 19:52.39 | exco | I was wondering if goxbox would be so kind to give us his config ? |
| 19:53.44 | paulproteus | Apparently he's just using the stock kernel config, and the build could be failing just because my machine is weird (perhaps - I don't really think this should be the case...). |
| 19:54.30 | exco | so tell me what I need to do and I will try if I run into the same problems |
| 19:56.09 | paulproteus | Well, GettingStarted on the OE site has all you need. |
| 19:57.14 | exco | btw, paulproteus the only noticable thing the updates brought so far ... more responsible ui similar to the armstrong one, gsm does only work after telling it to ... I guess now there's no qvga version anymore? |
| 19:57.21 | exco | I already have OE |
| 19:57.38 | paulproteus | exco, Wait, hold on. |
| 19:57.43 | paulproteus | You already have OpenEmbedded set up? |
| 19:57.50 | paulproteus | Then just bitbake an openmoko-devel-image. |
| 19:58.02 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.qlandkarte.org/QLandkarteM |
| 19:58.06 | exco | I guess so ... although I don't have a clue what I'm doing :-) |
| 19:58.39 | kiozen | can you add it to inittab and test it. In the About dialog is a nice button to reboot :) |
| 19:58.43 | exco | so I yould just need to create a config file I guess |
| 19:58.47 | paulproteus | nods |
| 20:00.24 | exco | I tried to figure out what works in the different images we have and wrote it down |
| 20:00.55 | paulproteus | Yes - that's what I wanted you to write on the hh.org wiki page. |
| 20:01.04 | exco | I will. |
| 20:01.20 | exco | not tonight - tonight I'm getting some sleep |
| 20:01.42 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 20:02.26 | exco | so I run mtn --db=OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev |
| 20:02.38 | paulproteus | OE.db I thought. |
| 20:02.39 | paulproteus | But yeah. |
| 20:02.44 | paulproteus | Whatever the docs say (-: |
| 20:03.53 | exco | btw... did you know the Magician led can be purple |
| 20:03.59 | paulproteus | Er, no I had no idea. |
| 20:04.54 | BabelO | kiozen: did you see my pm ? |
| 20:05.07 | kiozen | yes |
| 20:05.18 | kiozen | reading it at the moment |
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| 20:05.50 | BabelO | kiozen: my code is working with that, works like a charm :) |
| 20:06.09 | BabelO | kiozen: only limitation is the old cr2 map |
| 20:06.14 | kiozen | lol |
| 20:06.29 | kiozen | guessed so from the wiki info |
| 20:06.39 | exco | I'm done updating all that stuff (what am I doing) |
| 20:06.55 | exco | time for a config - mind pasting me yours? |
| 20:06.57 | kiozen | what about distortions in the bitmap? |
| 20:07.01 | BabelO | kiozen: and i found a way to extract character and get direction, but only for word > 5 char |
| 20:07.26 | BabelO | kiozen: distortion can be around +/- 5° without any problem |
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| 20:10.06 | kiozen | BabelO: pm |
| 20:10.49 | kiozen | cr2: does it work? |
| 20:13.28 | cr2 | reboot ? yes. |
| 20:13.37 | paulproteus | exco, Sure, okay |
| 20:14.11 | kiozen | cr2: ok, what's next to get this rootfs |
| 20:14.29 | kiozen | cr2: can we extract it from the SD card? |
| 20:15.20 | paulproteus | paulproteus.acm.jhu.edu/local.conf , exco |
| 20:18.24 | exco | right on it |
| 20:23.02 | exco | I have one more thing to do - bitbake environment - I don't have ~/.profile nor /etc/profile |
| 20:30.32 | cr2 | kiozen: what do you mean ? |
| 20:31.01 | kiozen | cr2: I need a working rootfs with M and all |
| 20:32.12 | kiozen | cr2: if the one you use for the loox works |
| 20:32.27 | kiozen | cr2: it would be best to extract it |
| 20:32.56 | kiozen | cr2: then I can copy it to my SD card |
| 20:34.16 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:34.39 | cr2 | i thought you wanted to compile a new one. |
| 20:34.51 | exco | paulproteus: http://de.pastebin.ca/1009714 |
| 20:35.43 | kiozen | cr2: no to much work and I can't test it |
| 20:35.48 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:37.29 | kiozen | do you have a place to store it for download? |
| 20:38.42 | paulproteus | exco, That's strange. |
| 20:39.56 | paulproteus | exco, Try doing the bitbake anyway. |
| 20:41.04 | exco | btw the error I'm getting with BabelO's image ... 6 sec vid http://www.zippyvideos.com/8717441227574186/pict6743/ |
| 20:41.18 | cr2 | kiozen: yes. |
| 20:41.23 | exco | paulproteus: the pastebin error is if I try to update the image with the daily stuff |
| 20:41.43 | paulproteus | exco, Yes - so just try the bitbake instead, forget about the daily stuff. |
| 20:41.46 | kiozen | cr2: ok I wait for mail :) |
| 20:41.51 | paulproteus | exco, Boy, that's strange - hopefully we can bitbake our way out of it! |
| 20:42.54 | cr2 | kiozen: hm. dd will be too big |
| 20:43.17 | kiozen | cr2: how much is it without maps |
| 20:43.48 | cr2 | mounting |
| 20:44.56 | exco | ok, ready. what do you want to get bitbaked ? |
| 20:45.11 | cr2 | kiozen: 245363K full |
| 20:45.24 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll remove the maps |
| 20:46.40 | exco | ( I don't have enoug space for world ) |
| 20:46.58 | cr2 | kiozen: 210M now |
| 20:47.01 | cr2 | kiozen: strange |
| 20:47.26 | cr2 | 155MB in usr |
| 20:47.34 | cr2 | 10 copies of M ?? |
| 20:47.46 | kiozen | lol |
| 20:47.53 | exco | what about Bond |
| 20:48.09 | cr2 | kiozen: 67799 ./include/c++ |
| 20:48.32 | cr2 | 63449 ./include/c++/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bits/stdc++.h.gch |
| 20:48.33 | cr2 | hehe |
| 20:48.56 | kiozen | gch?? what's that? |
| 20:49.16 | cr2 | don't know. i'll check |
| 20:49.27 | cr2 | 3779976 10. Dez 22:16 libstdc++.so.6.0.8 |
| 20:49.30 | cr2 | a bit fat too |
| 20:49.39 | exco | paulproteus: I just need to know the exact name for bitbake (OpenMoko?) |
| 20:49.42 | cr2 | 7499814 10. Dez 22:16 libstdc++_pic.a |
| 20:49.51 | cr2 | 7425266 10. Dez 22:16 libstdc++.a |
| 20:49.52 | kiozen | cr2: guess it's debug version |
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| 20:49.56 | cr2 | even worse |
| 20:50.08 | paulproteus | bitbake openmoko-devel-image |
| 20:50.11 | cr2 | 495108 10. Dez 22:16 libproj.a |
| 20:50.28 | cr2 | 6812762 10. Dez 22:16 libgdal.a |
| 20:50.46 | cr2 | 1828654 10. Dez 22:16 libcrypto.a |
| 20:50.46 | exco | .... drum roll ... |
| 20:50.49 | cr2 | a lot of bloa |
| 20:51.21 | cr2 | kiozen: but the size is not a problem for me. i guess more for you :) |
| 20:51.45 | kiozen | cr2: if it is on a nice ftp server it's ok for me |
| 20:52.01 | exco | help2man missing :-) that wasn't mentioned before |
| 20:52.14 | cr2 | O0g.gch: GCC precompiled header (version 013) for C++ |
| 20:52.14 | cr2 | O2g.gch: GCC precompiled header (version 013) for C++ |
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| 20:52.21 | cr2 | kiozen: http |
| 20:52.33 | cr2 | 32262936 10. Dez 22:16 O0g.gch |
| 20:52.46 | cr2 | 32451416 10. Dez 22:16 O2g.gch |
| 20:52.54 | kiozen | cr2: ok too, as long as it serves my 6Mbit line |
| 20:52.57 | cr2 | 65MB of headers :) |
| 20:53.13 | cr2 | tar or dd ? |
| 20:53.18 | kiozen | cr2: as long as this image is working out-of-the box I am fine |
| 20:53.29 | cr2 | i'll remove the headers. i doubt you need them. |
| 20:53.46 | kiozen | cr2: ok, but please do a test |
| 20:54.04 | kiozen | cr2: guess dd and tar would be best |
| 20:54.04 | cr2 | BabelO: what does the backup expert say ? |
| 20:54.56 | exco | today I really enjoyed having linux (though I'm still a greenhorn) ... setting up vpn (client) was so much easier than dealing with that cisco crap |
| 20:55.51 | BabelO | cr2: dd is wrong for sd because when you output it to another sdcard , you keep your signature and you keep also your sdcard size. SD partition is like you say just do a cp -a |
| 20:55.58 | BabelO | i do it often for ba :) |
| 20:56.26 | BabelO | then the usual tar cvjf |
| 20:56.47 | exco | It still works with dd even if you put it on a different card |
| 20:57.09 | cr2 | BabelO: cfvjp ? |
| 20:58.22 | exco | now I'm waiting on that 238kB for more than 5 minutes... ?! |
| 20:58.28 | cr2 | kiozen: doing tar now |
| 20:58.52 | kiozen | ok, M is in inittab |
| 20:58.53 | kiozen | ? |
| 20:58.57 | kiozen | cr2: |
| 20:59.29 | kiozen | cr2: thus it's booting right into M? |
| 20:59.46 | cr2 | kiozen: ? |
| 21:00.01 | cr2 | it's not in inittab, i get a normal getty login |
| 21:00.23 | kiozen | cr2: I will not have a chance to connect via PC to the device. |
| 21:00.24 | cr2 | and need to connect over usb, or attach the keyboard to the usb host |
| 21:00.28 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:00.39 | kiozen | cr2: this has to work out of the box |
| 21:00.50 | kiozen | loadlin -> QlandkarteM |
| 21:01.15 | BabelO | cr2: why p ? |
| 21:01.27 | kiozen | cr2: and can you please check if gps is working |
| 21:01.29 | cr2 | ok, qtopia does not care |
| 21:02.07 | exco | paulproteus: MACHINE = "htcblueangel"? |
| 21:02.09 | cr2 | what should i change in inittab ? |
| 21:02.15 | paulproteus | exco, Er, oops, I was testing that out. |
| 21:02.19 | paulproteus | Use MACHINE = "magician"! |
| 21:02.42 | kiozen | cr2: wait, have to boot my media center to look :) |
| 21:03.03 | cr2 | i don't want to mess too much in /etc/init.d |
| 21:04.00 | cr2 | BabelO: have you already created the egpio conf for arte ? |
| 21:04.10 | cr2 | BabelO: the 2.6.25 version |
| 21:04.36 | kiozen | try something like: "J0:3:respawn:/bin/bash -e /usr/bin/QLandkarteM -qws" |
| 21:05.05 | kiozen | cr2: maybe you have to write a shell script to setup some variables |
| 21:05.17 | BabelO | cr2: doing it like pH5 say, but i ve another issue |
| 21:06.13 | exco | paulproteus: so how how long does it usually run till it crashes? |
| 21:06.27 | paulproteus | I think an hour or so for me. |
| 21:06.35 | BabelO | cr2: doing Alp map around Annecy and Lac leman :) t osee the mountain effect, i like it :) |
| 21:06.50 | exco | what CPU? |
| 21:06.58 | paulproteus | Core 2 Duo 2 Ghz or so. |
| 21:07.19 | kiozen | BabelO: just go to the mountains and you get the hell of a mountain effect :) |
| 21:07.35 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, i'll check. |
| 21:07.58 | cr2 | kiozen: J0:5 |
| 21:08.05 | exco | so I can go to bed - and I will :-) If we want to do this more often from now on (depending on how it goes) we can use my fileserver as (auto)build machine |
| 21:08.20 | kiozen | cr2: depends on the runlevel :) |
| 21:09.52 | cr2 | kiozen: default is 5. |
| 21:10.07 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll check now. unmounting |
| 21:10.52 | cr2 | kiozen: i've used haret+zimage to boot. it was easier. |
| 21:11.04 | cr2 | kiozen: but i can compile the linload.exe |
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| 21:11.20 | kiozen | cr2: yes I need something simple |
| 21:11.44 | kiozen | cr2: the audience will be no linux hackers |
| 21:11.54 | kiozen | cr2: more the windows kind of type |
| 21:12.54 | kiozen | cr2: but if they are impressed, word will spread, and others will join |
| 21:13.11 | cr2 | ok, -qws first |
| 21:13.25 | kiozen | cr2: same will happen if it fails |
| 21:14.36 | cr2 | hehe. QLandkarteM now found. |
| 21:14.47 | cr2 | editing |
| 21:15.27 | cr2 | QLandkarteM.6 QLandkarteM.7 QLandkarteM.8 |
| 21:16.24 | kiozen | ? |
| 21:16.24 | exco | that's so funny... now all of a sudden the update is also running |
| 21:17.04 | cr2 | kiozen: i have multiple copies. made by wget |
| 21:17.26 | kiozen | cr2: no need to start them all, only one screen |
| 21:17.35 | cr2 | J0 respawning too fast |
| 21:18.13 | kiozen | cr2: guess it's missing some environment variables |
| 21:18.35 | cr2 | so i need to write a script anyway. |
| 21:18.41 | kiozen | cr2: most likely the suff I wrote to /etc/profile |
| 21:20.08 | cr2 | yes, there is something there. |
| 21:21.33 | cr2 | kiozen: bash -e ? |
| 21:22.12 | cr2 | kiozen: /bin/ash |
| 21:22.23 | kiozen | hm, got that form my media center, setup is years ago :) |
| 21:27.10 | cr2 | started |
| 21:27.23 | kiozen | drums!:) |
| 21:27.27 | cr2 | no map |
| 21:27.32 | kiozen | yes |
| 21:27.35 | cr2 | need to go out |
| 21:27.41 | kiozen | ok |
| 21:30.29 | cr2 | hmm |
| 21:30.38 | cr2 | it's too windows-like now |
| 21:30.55 | cr2 | the "cursor" is in the left upper corner |
| 21:31.14 | cr2 | the ts works (buttons, etc) |
| 21:31.25 | cr2 | but the cursor can't be moved |
| 21:31.25 | kiozen | cr2: did you get a gps signal? |
| 21:32.00 | cr2 | no 'columns' in the window |
| 21:32.15 | cr2 | i'll connect over usb |
| 21:32.21 | kiozen | cr2: columns? |
| 21:32.25 | cr2 | hehe. it's the deleted /dev/gps ;) |
| 21:32.41 | cr2 | i need to create /dev/gps in the same script ;) |
| 21:32.48 | cr2 | exiting |
| 21:33.06 | cr2 | M should probably create a popup or so. |
| 21:33.17 | kiozen | cr2: the cursor seems to be ok without map |
| 21:33.18 | cr2 | GPS source |
| 21:33.30 | cr2 | may need the port |
| 21:33.41 | cr2 | since you dislike the gpsd |
| 21:34.14 | cr2 | haha. exit reloaded M :) |
| 21:34.14 | kiozen | cr2: there is still loads of stuff missing in M |
| 21:34.35 | kiozen | cr2: sure :) it's inittab |
| 21:34.52 | kiozen | use the button in the about dialog to reboot |
| 21:35.24 | cr2 | a windows user will pull his hair out about the way of starting M :) |
| 21:36.01 | cr2 | gps is /dev/ttyS2. |
| 21:36.02 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:36.07 | kiozen | cr2: a windows user wants to click on an icon |
| 21:36.23 | kiozen | cr2: the he will wait until the app shows up |
| 21:36.40 | kiozen | cr2: he will get pissed if the app does not show up |
| 21:36.58 | kiozen | cr2: the quality of the app itself is secondary |
| 21:37.07 | cr2 | yes, but there are no icons. |
| 21:37.17 | cr2 | that's what we can learn from ms |
| 21:37.18 | kiozen | cr2: the loadlin.exe icon |
| 21:37.31 | cr2 | .cab is even better :) |
| 21:37.48 | cr2 | but n560 has its \Storage\ Card in a funny place |
| 21:38.36 | cr2 | ok, the PRN numbers appeared. that's a progress. |
| 21:38.40 | cr2 | going out. |
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| 21:45.05 | cr2 | kiozen: 8 prns, 3d fix |
| 21:45.11 | cr2 | the coordinates are ok |
| 21:45.21 | cr2 | the second cursor appeared |
| 21:45.36 | cr2 | but its still in the upper left corner. |
| 21:45.41 | cr2 | no map |
| 21:46.03 | kiozen | cr2: ok, guess that is normal without projection |
| 21:46.22 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:46.31 | cr2 | the sats are blue |
| 21:46.42 | kiozen | cr2: do you have a small map to test :) |
| 21:47.10 | cr2 | very confusing since everybody and his friend are cloning garmin |
| 21:47.49 | kiozen | there is no sense in making them look like the rainbow |
| 21:47.59 | kiozen | and I am not a friend of garmin :) |
| 21:48.06 | cr2 | :) |
| 21:48.42 | cr2 | but you see 1 blue sat, and have no idea what's going on |
| 21:48.54 | cr2 | then 8 pop up, but there is no fix. |
| 21:49.16 | kiozen | cr2: bah, details :) |
| 21:49.27 | cr2 | after some time you switch to the map window and see the coordinates |
| 21:49.45 | cr2 | yes, but that's the only that counts for a windows user :) |
| 21:50.00 | kiozen | cr2: this is a demo of a very alpha software. |
| 21:50.23 | cr2 | i'm even worse than a windows user, i don't have their patience for crashes and hangs :) |
| 21:50.25 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:50.47 | kiozen | cr2: it mustn't be perfect |
| 21:50.59 | cr2 | is there a way to shut down ? |
| 21:51.19 | kiozen | cr2: About dialog -> "dont pnaic" |
| 21:52.15 | cr2 | small gsod on exit, and restart |
| 21:52.44 | kiozen | hm, it does "system("reboot")" |
| 21:52.46 | cr2 | seems to be robust |
| 21:52.55 | cr2 | where ? |
| 21:53.21 | kiozen | the "don't panic" button |
| 21:53.23 | cr2 | i'm in about now |
| 21:53.23 | exco | paulproteus: next stop: kernel :P |
| 21:53.24 | exco | Good Night everyone |
| 21:53.37 | cr2 | kiozen: which one ? |
| 21:53.47 | kiozen | cr2: no button? |
| 21:54.04 | cr2 | map -> <- empty |
| 21:54.12 | paulproteus | exco, Wait, you got an openmoko-devel-image? Awesome! |
| 21:54.18 | paulproteus | I wonder what what wrong with my setup... |
| 21:54.25 | exco | nonono |
| 21:54.32 | exco | don't say that... yet |
| 21:54.33 | kiozen | cr2: you got today's binary from www.qlandkarte.org? |
| 21:54.35 | paulproteus | Okay. (-: |
| 21:54.58 | exco | I'm only compiling less than half as fast as you... hope that helps :-) |
| 21:54.59 | cr2 | kiozen: no |
| 21:55.17 | kiozen | www.qlandkarte.org/QLandkarteM |
| 21:55.22 | cr2 | kiozen: it's the old trusty one. |
| 21:55.26 | cr2 | ok |
| 21:57.17 | exco | wow... awesome project btw |
| 21:58.25 | kiozen | cr2: and? dositwork? |
| 21:58.41 | cr2 | kiozen: rebooting |
| 22:00.51 | kiozen | cr2: kaboom? |
| 22:02.24 | cr2 | rebooted to wince |
| 22:02.31 | kiozen | yessss! |
| 22:02.36 | cr2 | :D |
| 22:03.06 | cr2 | btw, it's better to boot in turbo mode |
| 22:03.26 | kiozen | cr2: turbo mode? |
| 22:03.26 | cr2 | because linux runs at 624MHz |
| 22:03.29 | kiozen | ok |
| 22:03.50 | cr2 | if it will hang at boot, do soft reset |
| 22:03.57 | kiozen | cr2: but will it drop down after booting? |
| 22:04.18 | kiozen | cr2: how is softreset doen? |
| 22:04.24 | cr2 | it depends on your setup |
| 22:04.47 | kiozen | cr2: better make it failsafe |
| 22:04.55 | cr2 | with stilus left from the multi connector. |
| 22:05.18 | kiozen | cr2: a ok thought that is hardreset :) |
| 22:05.33 | cr2 | no. |
| 22:05.55 | cr2 | i don't know ho to do a hard reset on n560 |
| 22:06.20 | kiozen | cr2: throw it to the wall always helps |
| 22:06.28 | cr2 | ok, copying the SD. |
| 22:06.35 | kiozen | ok :) |
| 22:07.43 | kiozen | can you mail me a link? I have to survive a birthday party with 10 kids tomorrow. Don't know when I have time to do the download |
| 22:08.39 | kiozen | cr2: and I need the loadlin.exe, too |
| 22:08.54 | kiozen | cr2: are you around tomorrow evening? |
| 22:09.22 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:09.30 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.32 | cr2 | yes |
| 22:10.28 | kiozen | cr2: the most obnochious TODO ever :P |
| 22:10.35 | cr2 | omg. |
| 22:10.48 | cr2 | you have included .a libs and c++ headers. |
| 22:11.10 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.15 | kiozen | cr2: it's the complete develop environment |
| 22:11.24 | kiozen | cr2: you can compile M on the loox |
| 22:11.41 | cr2 | very important /mnt/usr/include/openssl/ebcdic.h |
| 22:11.54 | kiozen | blame oe |
| 22:12.04 | cr2 | what's that ? /mnt/usr/bin/.debug/gpsflash |
| 22:12.20 | kiozen | ask oe :) |
| 22:12.24 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:13.00 | kiozen | hey I was glad that I got a running rootfs |
| 22:13.16 | kiozen | never said it's beatifull :) |
| 22:14.06 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:14.36 | cr2 | 45175448 7. Mai 00:15 LOOX_QT_SD.tar.bz2 |
| 22:14.44 | cr2 | 45MB |
| 22:14.56 | kiozen | cr2: do you have a fast uplink? |
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| 22:15.56 | okias | Hi, what status have HTC Kaiser? I tried linux on it, but it boots only once :-( |
| 22:16.32 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:17.12 | okias | what? :-D |
| 22:17.12 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, i'll send you the link |
| 22:17.12 | cr2 | okias: is your kaiser dead now ? |
| 22:17.12 | kiozen | cr2: we have to agree on the format of the SD |
| 22:17.12 | okias | cr2: no :-D |
| 22:17.17 | okias | cr2: but linux boot only first time i tried, now not working |
| 22:17.55 | okias | cr2: windows mobile working still terrible :-D |
| 22:18.43 | kiozen | cr2: partition is /dev/mmcblk0 and should be ext2 right? |
| 22:19.28 | cr2 | kiozen: sent |
| 22:19.37 | cr2 | kiozen: hmm. it's haret.exe now |
| 22:19.54 | cr2 | need to compile linload.exe |
| 22:20.08 | okias | know anyone what status have wifi support on Kaiser? :-) |
| 22:22.37 | kiozen | cr2: tar xvfj to untar? |
| 22:22.59 | kiozen | cr2: tar cvfj to untar? |
| 22:23.13 | kiozen | no the first right? |
| 22:23.15 | *** part/#htc-linux okias (i=ejabberd@poseidon.kraja.cz) |
| 22:23.32 | paulproteus | kiozen, tar xvf |
| 22:23.35 | cr2 | xfvj |
| 22:23.43 | paulproteus | kiozen, These days tar detects bzip2 and gzip iirc. |
| 22:23.49 | kiozen | ok |
| 22:24.28 | kiozen | cr2: /dev/mmcblk0 looks like it is partitionless, right |
| 22:29.03 | cr2 | yes |
| 22:29.13 | cr2 | but you can choose |
| 22:29.31 | cr2 | but linload.exe must have it hardcoded. |
| 22:29.31 | kiozen | cr2: let's leave it like it is |
| 22:29.37 | cr2 | which partition and so on. |
| 22:29.45 | cr2 | i have all 3 config |
| 22:30.15 | kiozen | cr2: I choose the one that fits /dev/mmcblk0 :) |
| 22:31.27 | kiozen | cr2: ok 5 hours sleep left, sorry have to go now. |
| 22:31.39 | kiozen | cr2: can you mail me the loadlin.exe, please |
| 22:31.53 | kiozen | bbl |
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| 22:35.01 | kiozen | cr2: sorry forgot to say thank you :) |
| 22:35.05 | kiozen | good night |
| 22:44.48 | BabelO | good night |
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| 23:26.04 | miknix | cr2, we could turn on blinking leds, redim backlight brightneess, turn off/on lcd turn on keyboard keys just by writing to the i2c bus |
| 23:26.26 | miknix | cr2, and reading the i2c bus we can get data comming when press the dpad |
| 23:27.34 | miknix | cr2, do you know which address the i2c chip is located? |
| 23:36.51 | miknix | cr2, revertive found that the eeprom is located on 0x80 |
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| 23:48.10 | dcordes | cr2, you there? |
