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10:51.13dcordes_marbalon: ping
10:51.35marbalondcordes_: pong
10:52.32dcordes_marbalon: do you get a CMD_TIMEOUT interrupt a few ms after issuing the first command for sd?
10:55.16marbalondcordes: I don't know how SD driver really works, so I don't look inside
10:57.15marbalondcordes: maybe if i have more time... now I have only < 2h per day :(
11:00.48dcordesmarbalon: ok SanMehat say this yesterday.
11:01.20dcordeswe need to find out how to control the vreg for your SD slot
11:01.46marbalondcordes: yes, I read yesterday logs
11:01.51dcordesok
11:03.14marbalondcordes:  but writing drivers without data sheet is really hard, to much question
11:03.44marbalonwhy Qualcomm hide data sheet ???
11:05.21marbalonwe have only info from haret logs or sources for similar CPU
11:05.22dcordesmaybe SanMehat or swetland sell them
11:05.24dcordeshrhr
11:07.00marbalondcordes: do you think SanMehat or swetland have datasheet ?
11:07.10dcordesmarbalon: yes
11:07.19dcordesfor msm7500A at least
11:08.17dcordesmarbalon: since they kindly offered help you should ask them if you have a question
11:09.26marbalondcordes: ok I will ask them, but later, now work.. work...
11:09.50dcordesmarbalon: ok laters
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11:37.45nx5_offhi
11:38.10nx5is it possible to run linux (angstrom or whatever) on the htc touch?
11:39.16Marexcr2, hi
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14:08.49Pryanhi all
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14:15.41revertivehi, does anyone know where i can find the latest kernel source for the HTC Magician?
14:16.11revertivethe HTC Magician and HTC wizard use the same touchscreen and it working for the magician so i need the kernel sources
14:24.19cr2revertive: tsc2046 is not magician-specific. btw, wizard needs an spi driver for the ts port first. and the magic i2c cpld driver.
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14:30.07revertivecr2: i know it isnt magician specific but i saw it worked for the magician port, so i first need to look at the SPI ok, i dont have alot of experience so i hope i can find some info in the internet somewhere
14:30.28revertivecr2: thanks for pointing me in the right direction
14:31.27cr2revertive: it's undocumented, ask BabelO about the details
14:31.43cr2revertive: i mean the omap850 ts spi port
14:33.22revertivecr2: thats a shame, ill ask BabelO for the details, but i dont think i have enough experience to make it work but thanks for the help
14:43.09pofcr2, i think the shift touchscreen is connected through a serial port
14:43.16pofsee http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2005-August/003037.html
14:44.25pofi have tried several port/irq combinations but can't seem to find the right value
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15:07.39dcordesinfernix: ping
15:09.04dcordesinfernix: I just built kaiser zImage with MSM_SD. boots fine but I get no input from the keyboard driver. inut: vogue_keypad as /class/input/input1 appears though
15:10.07dcordesonly getting ^@ from some front keypad buttons
15:48.04Raven_codadcordes vogue_keypad is not right device
15:49.00dcordesyea I didn't realize there was kaiser added yet.
15:49.09dcordesnow I have it the right way
15:49.12Raven_codak
15:49.22Raven_codadoes his keyboard work for you?
15:49.30Raven_codaIt locks up when I add it
15:49.39dcordesbooting?
15:49.43Raven_codasame prob infernix had
15:49.46Raven_codano boots fine
15:49.54Raven_codabut when I press a key it locks up
15:49.56dcordesinside the android gui?
15:50.51Raven_codano, anywhere
15:50.51dcordesno that worked perfectly for me
15:50.51Raven_codathe zImage is great but when I compile it in....
15:50.51dcordesbut not tried it with self built kernel yet, only with marbalon's zImage
15:50.51dcordesyea same here.
15:50.51Raven_codayeah
15:50.57dcordesbut I can't test it now because I face a different problem
15:51.04dcordesenabling SD locks up on boot
15:51.11dcordesalthough it booted before
15:51.22dcordeswill disable it and try keyboad now..
15:53.03dcordesRaven_coda: did you try with usb support on?
16:00.33Raven_codano
16:00.40Raven_codais that what is needed?
16:06.30dcordesRaven_coda: ok booted w/o sd
16:06.42dcordesdies on keyboard hit
16:07.09dcordesI guess either something in the source tree has changed since he made the patch or the patch is broken ^^
16:07.11Raven_codayep, I don't think anyone but marbalon has gotten it to work
16:07.22dcordesalright
16:07.26SanMehatdcordes: Hey
16:07.32dcordeshey SanMehat
16:07.44SanMehati'm not sure if you noticed, but we pushed some more SD changes last night
16:09.33dcordesI did a git-remote update like two hours ago and built kaiser image with CONFIG_MMC_MSM7X00A=y and CONFIG_MSMSDCC_TRACE=y
16:09.57SanMehatso you have DMA then
16:10.09dcordesdurin the boot process I see several mmc system messages. It obviously tries to communicate with the controller but then dies after something like mhz=0
16:10.38SanMehatprint the messages?
16:11.29dcordesok will copy it manually
16:11.55dcordesshall I enable an option for that new DMA thing in .config before I rebuild with sd in?
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16:17.55dcordesRaven_coda: did you notice the cursor returns after a time?
16:18.03dcordes(after stroking a key)=
16:20.22Raven_codano I didn't
16:20.31Raven_codaso not complete lock up... hm
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16:23.13dcordes_sorry did I miss something? connection was gone
16:24.06Raven_codaI just said it was interesting that it's not a complete lockup
16:30.39dcordes_SanMehat: I get errors now compilling sdcc: drivers/mmc/host/msm_sdcc.c:887,904: undefined reference to `mmc_suspend_host'
16:41.55dcordeshm odd I didn't get those errors before compilling msm_sdcc.c
16:42.27dcordesdidn't do anything in between but editing .config. reverted to the config I built with sd support before but that doesn't work either
16:42.31dcordesstill get the errors
16:43.25Raven_codaSanMehat, you still okay with me sending you our work to patch in?
16:46.54SanMehatdcordes_ define CONFIG_PM
16:47.01SanMehatdcordes_ not define, but enable CONFIG_PM
16:47.16SanMehatRaven_coda: yeah, just please try to do a first pass at cleaning it up :)
16:47.46Raven_codahave done
16:47.57SanMehatsure then :)
16:47.59SanMehatsan@android.com
16:48.00dcordesRaven_coda: let's get that keyboard working first
16:48.10dcordesmarbalon is rewriting it
16:48.15Raven_codak
16:48.33Raven_codaDo you know how far along he is?
16:48.40Raven_codawould he be done today?
16:49.08dcordesI got the impression he is extremely busy but still eager to get it done
16:49.11dcordes=no idea :)
16:49.36dcordeslet's just wait until he's done. won't give us anything have a non working keypad and a ts driver for kaiser in git.android.com..
16:49.45dcordess/have/having/
16:50.06Raven_codats doesn't work?
16:50.30dcordesdidn't say that ;P
16:50.35Raven_codaah
16:51.00Raven_codawhat I'm sending is more broad then just kaiser drivers
16:51.20Raven_codamainly code to get MSM7500 and MSM7200 to boot
16:51.51dcordesSanMehat: just add a line called "CONFIG_PM=y" ? (couldn't find pm in xconfig)
16:51.57SanMehathang on
16:52.07dcordesRaven_coda: the initial patches from dzo?
16:52.12Raven_codaI'll hold out for a bit but I'd like to send it off before I leave
16:52.13Raven_codayes
16:52.21dcordesRaven_coda: that would be pretty useful
16:52.22SanMehatdcordes: its a config option..
16:52.23Raven_codabut cleaned so not vogue
16:52.24SanMehatCONFIG_PM
16:52.48dcordesSanMehat: where can I find that in menuconfig?
16:52.57SanMehatdcordes: Not sure.. I just edit .config
16:53.03SanMehathang on...
16:53.05dcordesok
16:53.22SanMehatjust comment out msmsdcc_suspend, msmsdcc_resume, and the references to it in msmsdcc_driver
16:53.35SanMehatthat should work, although you wont be able to handle sleeping.
16:53.45dcordesok
16:55.27dcordesSanMehat: comment out the complete static function things?
16:55.46SanMehatyes
16:56.34dcordesSanMehat: also static struct platform_driver?
16:56.45dcordesit says suspend and resume there too
16:56.58SanMehatyes.. AND the references to the functions in msmsdcc_driver.
16:57.11dcordesok
16:57.17dcordesh I guess
16:57.49dcordesh has no references
16:57.53SanMehatnot h
16:58.02SanMehatstatic struct platform_driver msmsdcc_driver = {
16:58.02SanMehat<PROTECTED>
16:58.02SanMehat<PROTECTED>
16:58.02SanMehat<PROTECTED>
16:58.02SanMehat<PROTECTED>
16:58.05SanMehat<PROTECTED>
16:58.07SanMehat<PROTECTED>
16:58.10SanMehat};
16:58.12SanMehatthoes
16:58.14SanMehatcomment out .suspend and .resume
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17:03.33cr2hi
17:04.02cr2BabelO: atof("0x16") does not work ?
17:07.02dcordesSanMehat: did that. built, booted no mmc/sd messages, and no freeze
17:07.13dcordeshi cr2
17:07.31SanMehatdcordes: doesn't sound like the driver is being started
17:08.00dcordesSanMehat: hm why did it start before? and also why didn't I get the errors compilling
17:08.03dcordesvery odd
17:09.19dcordesI'm trying some config editing
17:11.43dcordesSanMehat: will have the mmc system messages in a minute
17:12.06cr2dcordes: do you have board-kaiser.c ?
17:12.42dcordescr2: yep. but when I had sd messages, I built w/o it
17:13.25cr2you should init the SD like it's done in board-halibut.c
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17:16.28dcordescr2: ah now I understand. guess board-kaiser disables the sd init
17:19.07dcordescr2: how can I edit the font size?
17:19.22Raven_codadcordes, that's in the menuconfig
17:19.32dcordeswhere can I find it?
17:20.27Raven_codadevice drivers->graphics support
17:20.34dcordesthx
17:20.48Raven_codaConsole display driver support
17:22.40dcordesRaven_coda: do you know which of the available fonts/sizes is in kaiserconfig?
17:23.04Raven_coda8x8 works well
17:24.18dcordesRaven_coda: does chosing one of them overwrite the default values for font?
17:25.04Raven_codayeah if you just have 8x8 checked then that's the font you'll get
17:26.28dcordesok got 4x6 mini
17:26.43dcordesI figured that's the smallest readable for qvga
17:31.18dcordesis there any way to see the full boot process w/o keyboard? It looks like I can't reconstruct the panic after booting with mmc enabled so I can't see if there is sd init or not
17:36.25dcordescr2: any idea how I can check whether or not there's sd init?
17:45.40BabelOcr2: no, that is normal :)
17:48.11BabelOcr2:you need to use sprintf first
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18:19.13SanMehatRaven_coda: Got your patch. I am pretty busy today, but I'll try to give it a good look this weekend.
18:20.49Raven_codathx
18:21.25Raven_codait's against the most recent updates
18:24.32SanMehatRaven_coda: Is there any reason why swetlands smd driver is not sufficient?
18:24.50Raven_codathe config is very different
18:24.58SanMehatok, just curious
18:25.27Raven_codaI could try and merge but it would turn into a lot of ifdef statements
18:25.41SanMehatfair enough
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18:38.56cr2BabelO: strtol() ?
18:40.02BabelOcr2: yes, lol better solution with base 16
18:41.19cr2BabelO: hmm. does not work.
18:46.01BabelOcr2: i m looking for speaker ouput difference on BA and recording also
18:47.55cr2ok
19:11.22cr2BabelO: missed NULL there ;)
19:23.39dcordesRaven_coda: did you report the keyboad issue with his patch to marbalon?
19:26.37cr2i=atoi((char *)((unsigned long)out+3));
19:32.55cr2hmm.
19:33.07cr2awk is so easy.
19:38.55Raven_codano, haven't seen hime
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19:40.33Raven_codaI know infernix had been talking to him about it already
19:49.35kiozencr2: hi, any news?
20:08.07cr2kiozen: no. was very busy fixing bugs ;)
20:08.27kiozenhope you did not harm any char ;)
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20:08.56kiozencr2: btw GT has now a really nice diary interface
20:09.08cr2:)
20:09.13cr2need to check it.
20:09.15kiozencr2: just printing is still y bit clumsy
20:09.59kiozencr2: ok, commited some more icons, you can svn up now
20:10.41kiozencr2: with the diary you can comment tracks and waypoint, e.g. a sailing or hiking trip
20:11.44kiozencr2: you can save it to *qlb at the moment, not sure if I do it for gpx
20:13.49cr2kiozen: what do you save in .qlb ?
20:14.08kiozenthe diary text and a timestamp
20:14.58kiozenin general qlb is the nativ format, and gps is only a subset, due to limited definition
20:15.08kiozens/gps/gpx/
20:16.52cr2x,y,z too ?
20:18.09kiozencr2: what xyz?
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20:33.35cr2kiozen: lat,long,alt
20:33.53kiozenfor wpts or the diary?
20:34.06kiozenwpts have lat lon alt
20:34.11cr2wpts
20:34.13cr2ok
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20:34.58kiozencr2: anyway the qlb format is appendable without loosing compatibility
20:35.18kiozenthus futur needs are easy to add
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21:04.52cr2kiozen: wow. a lot of changes.
21:06.49kiozencr2: :)
21:07.41kiozenit's getting better than the original one
21:15.46cr2kiozen: .qlb on big-endian machine ?
21:16.43kiozencr2: handled by the QDataStream class (but I think I miss a line to set the format, but that's no big deal)
21:17.01kiozencr2: need a big endian machine to test :)
21:18.31cr2linuxppc
21:18.33kiozenhttp://pastebin.com/m12a0ddc
21:19.05kiozenthus it should be ok without changes
21:19.17cr2but the compiled qt4 hang there. maybe the older glibc is too blame
21:19.20kiozenI have learned from QLandkarte ;)
21:19.33cr2ok.
21:20.28kiozenI should port the garmin plugins to GT
21:20.58cr2which plugins ?
21:21.21kiozenthe driver plugins from original Qkandkarte
21:21.35cr2ok.
21:22.06cr2heh. i'm so spoiled by qstring, that i really began to hate stl.
21:22.07kiozenI like to use GT more than the crappy Garmin map stuff :)
21:22.20cr2as a result i write everything in C ;)
21:22.21kiozenSTL sucks
21:22.36cr2lol
21:22.37kiozenit's one of the most fucked up libs
21:22.53cr2you need a vector overlay for GT/M
21:23.12cr2i have an interestring idea now
21:23.46cr2i'm working on netcdf4 data interface now for my project purposes
21:23.48kiozenyes one day, but I have to change the subsytsem a bit for that
21:24.46cr2and will probably switch .rdm to netcdf4, because it's so easy to reuse the code :)
21:24.54kiozenHDF5 yeah! Have done a bit on that, wiredstuff
21:25.25cr2hdf5 is too complex. netcdf4 is a nice subset.
21:25.46cr2but they are equivalent to a large extent.
21:26.16kiozenbut a nice compact vector format is always good
21:26.36cr2yes.
21:26.38kiozengarmin did a nice job, but messed it up in the end
21:26.54cr2and changing .rdm into netcdf4 will be very easy.
21:27.02kiozenit looks like they fired the genius to hire the morron
21:27.46cr2but it's the only properly hacked commercial map format.
21:27.56cr2hmm. navit comes to mind :)
21:28.11kiozenthere are many good things in img
21:28.42kiozenit's just that the real maps totaly fsck it because no one seems to understand the original idea
21:29.07cr2lol
21:29.27cr2without good docs it's not going to change.
21:29.45kiozenthe garmin maps are the worst ;)
21:29.54kiozenand they should have docs
21:30.00cr2from looking into the code, and reading the .img .pdf it looks too complex to appreciate.
21:30.23cr2i have alk maps on a780
21:30.33cr2it's the same navteq
21:30.59cr2but the program is very slow on doing low zooms
21:31.03kiozenwell it's a very efficient DiffPCM for polygons
21:31.17kiozenwith less compression it gets esasier
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21:31.43cr2hmm. i need to check it. the polygon implementation in .rdm really sucks
21:31.55kiozenbut the general concept of layers, subdivs and point, poi, polyline, polygon
21:32.01kiozenis quite sane
21:32.26cr2poi is indexed point ?
21:32.37cr2i was always confused about the difference.
21:32.43kiozenyes, points with more information
21:32.50cr2cgpsmapper mostly never uses points.
21:32.55cr2ok.
21:33.07kiozenpos just have extended data fields
21:33.27kiozena point is easier to handle
21:33.57cr2geometry should be separated from data attributes. grass does it right.
21:34.04cr2but slow for historical reasons.
21:34.21kiozenwell it's kind of like that in img
21:35.03kiozenhowever extended information it cluttered as it was added later on
21:35.24cr2probably
21:35.54kiozenI am always tempted to do my own binary vector map format, but there are still more pressing things to do
21:39.18cr2there are so many of them
21:39.42kiozenyes, but none is really good :)
21:39.47cr2but i don't see any resonably documented one.
21:40.03cr2therefore it's very difficult to reuse any of them.
21:40.49kiozenlet's do a XML format as XML works everywhere :P
21:40.52kiozenno?
21:41.02cr2LOL
21:41.16kiozenand java supports XML, too
21:41.21cr2.rdm is ok for the lines.
21:41.39cr2but it does not support pois at all
21:41.47kiozenafaik rdm lacks compression
21:41.50cr2and the polygon support is a bad hack.
21:42.13kiozenevery format using ring polygons is peculiar ;)
21:42.21cr2yes, for the modern cpus it's not a problem to decompress on the fly
21:42.40cr2forbid it.
21:42.47kiozenI am always amazed how good the omap handles it
21:43.15cr2but then you need a good clipping library
21:43.40christian_hallo all, i would like to ask one question about linux on htc-magician, i can't figure out why with newer kernels(>2.6.20) my screen just goes white.
21:43.44kiozenno, you just have to layer polygons, and you have to keep them small
21:44.23cr2kiozen: cutting them in easy renderable pieces (=rectangles) is the best way imho
21:44.37cr2christian_: do you have some strange LCD ?
21:44.49kiozenyes, at least that garmin does right
21:45.05kiozenbut they mess up the drawing order constantly
21:45.56cr2christian_: when does your LCD go white ?
21:45.57christian_I don't know, it is just a normal vpac. How can i figure out with lcd i have?
21:46.47cr2kiozen: this cutting process is implemented only in mkgmap. again undocumented and only in java (=evil)
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21:49.04christian_cr2: directly after running the kernel with haret, everything else is running, i can ssh in the device.
21:49.19kiozencr2: can't be too hard to do, the bigger problem will be to keep the right drawing order for polygons.
21:50.29kiozenok it's late, have to get some sleep, as usual my son will wake me up at 6:00 on weekends (but will refuse to wake up on workday :/)
21:50.32kiozengodd night
21:51.12christian_cr2: in dmesg there are is a entry with "samsung LCD"
21:52.53cr2christian_: does it go white on boot ? or on resume ?
21:53.03christian_on boot
21:53.40christian_it just get horizontal white stripes and goes then all white.
21:56.39christian_was there a big change in the framebuffer from 2.6.20 to 2.6.21?
22:00.11cr2no, the changes should be magician-specific
22:00.28cr2can you add 'setlcd 4' to default.txt and try to boot ?
22:00.47cr2it will powerdown the LCD before booting linux.
22:02.21christian_after the bootlinux in a new line?
22:07.28cr2before
22:07.50cr2after bootlinux wince already lost all control.
22:09.18christian_it is going white again, so it turns black, then i can read, booting linux, and some more lines, and then it just goes white again.
22:11.53cr2something is wrong with the pxafb gpio init then. you'd talk to pH5
22:12.02cr2he has written this part
22:14.11christian_Ok, i will try. Thanks.
22:33.02BabelOcr2: record still does not work
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