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| 12:49.27 | BabelO_ | hi |
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| 13:05.47 | dcordes | hi |
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| 15:07.39 | cr2 | BabelO_: g++ is an overzealous compiler. it forces me to do static_cast<char**>() |
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| 15:21.58 | pof | cr2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2122906#post2122906 |
| 15:34.55 | kiozen | cr2: have done some context menu stuff on GT, svn up |
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| 15:45.00 | cr2 | pof: does it show up with 'lsusb' ? |
| 15:45.38 | cr2 | kiozen: ok. |
| 15:49.06 | pof | cr2: no :( |
| 15:50.48 | cr2 | pof: hmm. virtual hid. |
| 15:51.23 | cr2 | pof: maybe it just accesses the usual ps2 port over LPC bus ? |
| 15:52.19 | cr2 | do you see its io range set in the registry ? |
| 15:53.09 | dcordes | what arch is shift? |
| 15:53.16 | cr2 | pof: impressing progress btw :) |
| 15:53.54 | cr2 | dcordes: http://www.faz.net/s/Rub4C34FD0B1A7E46B88B0653D6358499FF/Doc~E7BB9EF9BC55F477E8B159DE955B67B6F~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html |
| 15:54.55 | dcordes | wow 1200 |
| 15:55.03 | cr2 | dcordes: the part i enjoyed the most is ' der Arbeitsspeicher mit 1 Gigabyte zu knapp bemessen ist' :) |
| 15:55.51 | cr2 | you can buy it for 740+240 i think. with a contract. |
| 15:58.00 | dcordes | cr2: I think they are trying to compare it with recently released high end notebook devices |
| 16:00.22 | pof | cr2: sorry, i'm at work. Will research more when I go back home |
| 16:00.30 | cr2 | pof: ok. |
| 16:00.47 | cr2 | dcordes: i think they mean for running vista. |
| 16:01.58 | kiozen | cr2: commited some more |
| 16:06.56 | dcordes | cr2: oh. I would prefer angstrom-distribution on such kind of device |
| 16:09.13 | cr2 | lol |
| 16:10.23 | dcordes | or a sleek debian |
| 16:12.52 | dcordes | cr2: watching the video now. what does he mean he can use the phone "autonom von vista" |
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| 18:21.52 | BabelO | ola kiozen |
| 18:22.01 | kiozen | ola :) |
| 18:29.32 | BabelO | kiozen: compiling qtopiacore 4.4 |
| 18:29.49 | kiozen | oh!!! |
| 18:30.15 | kiozen | I will hopefully get my new pc tomorrow or on Friday |
| 18:30.38 | kiozen | than I can get back into the compile orgie business again :) |
| 18:31.26 | BabelO | kiozen: you build computer or it is already packaged ? |
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| 18:31.43 | pikapika | hi |
| 18:32.25 | kiozen | BabelO: doing it the tought way, role my own |
| 18:32.29 | BabelO | hi pikapika |
| 18:32.54 | BabelO | pikapika: lol, pseudo letter are in wrong order |
| 18:33.10 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, that is the best |
| 18:33.21 | BabelO | kiozen: -embedded arm as no effect |
| 18:33.28 | cr2 | kiozen: i'm reimplementing qstring in c now ;) |
| 18:33.44 | kiozen | cr2: lol, are you bored :P |
| 18:33.44 | pikapika | BabelO: are you french ? |
| 18:34.14 | cr2 | BabelO: is 4.4 out now ? |
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| 18:35.12 | cr2 | kiozen: need to fix the code written in C by others, that's doing something similar to qstring. in a very braindead way. they should send their CV to m$ :) |
| 18:35.25 | BabelO | pikapika: yes |
| 18:35.59 | BabelO | cr2: no, just checking the core on arm, i want to see webkit in action |
| 18:36.15 | kiozen | cr2: either the lib works out the bock, or it's better to write it on your own |
| 18:36.25 | kiozen | s/bock/box/ |
| 18:36.38 | pikapika | BabelO: i understand better :) |
| 18:38.06 | cr2 | kiozen: i'm changing the most nasty parts, where valgrind is going crazy and (potential) buffer overflows are everywhere. |
| 18:39.04 | kiozen | cr2: uh crud, I wouldn't want to deal with such a code, have to do that all day long for money. |
| 18:39.48 | BabelO | pikapika: :) |
| 18:41.45 | BabelO | pikapika: looking for something ? you have a htc device ? |
| 18:42.11 | cr2 | kiozen: lol. me too ;) |
| 18:43.17 | dcordes | cr2: I would like to fiddle around with SD a bit but I have still problems with the ramdisk on kaiser |
| 18:43.59 | pikapika | BabelO: i have a blue angel, soon an himalaya, i'm interested in running linux/android/openmoko/whatever oss on it :) |
| 18:44.10 | dcordes | cr2: since we don't know if nand works I have no idea what to try about it |
| 18:44.13 | pikapika | and a prophet i have to repair |
| 18:45.12 | cr2 | dcordes: the most interesting problem is to understand why the LCD and SD can't be traced, while on 7500 it's not a problem. |
| 18:45.25 | cr2 | dcordes: but it's not an easy problem. |
| 18:45.50 | cr2 | pikapika: ba4, ba5 or ba6 ? |
| 18:45.56 | dcordes | cr2: well LCD works though |
| 18:46.36 | cr2 | dcordes: then the gpios. |
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| 18:47.03 | pikapika | cr2: about ? |
| 18:47.04 | pH5 | ooh, hx4700 finished charging, time to boot that acx kernel |
| 18:47.23 | BabelO | pikapika: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/Qtopia |
| 18:47.41 | pikapika | BabelO: thanks |
| 18:47.44 | dcordes | pikapika: cat /proc/cpuinfo on blueangel. cr2 would like to know which board revision you have |
| 18:47.45 | BabelO | pikapika: get .exe and bz2 on root of your sdcard, then start the exe, you need at least 200Mb free |
| 18:48.16 | pikapika | dcordes: ok thanks, but i just a wm6 on it for the moment |
| 18:48.45 | dcordes | cr2: you mean I should try to trace SD gpios? |
| 18:48.50 | pikapika | BabelO: unfortunately, page not found |
| 18:49.37 | BabelO | pikapika: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/Qtopia/ |
| 18:49.44 | dcordes | cr2: iirc that returned errors |
| 18:50.08 | pikapika | BabelO: thanks i try it now |
| 18:54.39 | BabelO | pikapika: it is a little longer on first boot |
| 18:54.50 | pikapika | ok |
| 18:55.01 | pikapika | i'm copying files on the sd |
| 18:58.47 | pikapika | BabelO: maybe i should have an ext2/3 partition no ? :) |
| 18:59.27 | BabelO | pikapika: no not needed |
| 18:59.38 | BabelO | just the two file on the root of your sd card |
| 18:59.50 | pikapika | i'll retry |
| 19:01.22 | pikapika | it works, i was stupid enough to put it not on root but in a folder |
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| 19:06.30 | dcordes | marbalon: any news about SD? |
| 19:07.15 | infernixx | dcordes: you can boot and use kernels you compiled yourself yet? |
| 19:08.09 | marbalon | dcordes: no, so little time... |
| 19:13.52 | pikapika | BabelO: it works great, but is there a term built in so i can answer cr2 ? |
| 19:14.56 | pikapika | i found it |
| 19:14.59 | marbalon | dcordes: I have one idea, toggle gpio 62-67, maybe there is PWREN for SD |
| 19:16.27 | BabelO | pikapika: ok, this version is buggy, need to install the new one :) |
| 19:18.02 | pikapika | BabelO: i see this :) |
| 19:18.09 | pikapika | can't type much ;) |
| 19:18.28 | pikapika | but it's quite impressive thougf |
| 19:18.30 | pikapika | though |
| 19:18.46 | BabelO | pikapika: with onscreen keyboard, if you key in slowly it is ok |
| 19:18.59 | BabelO | pikapika: very fast interface ;) better than wince |
| 19:19.00 | BabelO | lol |
| 19:20.08 | pikapika | sure |
| 19:20.44 | pikapika | windows is far from great, though i thought it was less worse than the desktop version of windows |
| 19:21.32 | Marex | cr2, pH5, hi, if you dont mind, check your email please |
| 19:21.40 | Marex | I used checkpatch already |
| 19:24.11 | dcordes | marbalon: I can't try because I can't boot again... |
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| 19:29.33 | marbalon | dcordes: witch smalled initrd also ? |
| 19:29.52 | BabelO | pikapika_: you have tried with sim card in ? |
| 19:30.18 | pikapika | BabelO: yes |
| 19:30.28 | BabelO | ok |
| 19:31.31 | pikapika | BabelO: i had to reboot the device the shell had gone mad |
| 19:31.41 | marbalon | dcordes: *with smaller |
| 19:32.03 | BabelO | pikapika: ok, BA keyboard is not stable |
| 19:32.20 | pikapika | i saw this ;) |
| 20:07.22 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
| 20:11.55 | dcordes | marbalon: tried both. I think I will flash a new rom tomorrow afternoon |
| 20:14.06 | marbalon | dcordes: maybe... but I made a smaller initrd ~5MB it is still works as linux box ;) |
| 20:15.08 | marbalon | try to remove haretlog.txt |
| 20:15.23 | marbalon | it's grows up every boot |
| 20:15.39 | cr2 | kiozen: hehe. still looking for a bug |
| 20:16.53 | kiozen | cr2: do you have a nice explanatory link on how to convert bitmaps to one and the same pallet. Either gimp or convert. Need that for the tutorial. |
| 20:17.41 | cr2 | kiozen: it's easy to do it formally, but not so easy to do it good. |
| 20:18.10 | cr2 | you need to create a palette first |
| 20:18.25 | kiozen | well you can do from the 1st file |
| 20:18.36 | cr2 | for gimp it's a .gpl file |
| 20:18.59 | cr2 | look at /usr/share/gimp/2.0/palettes/* |
| 20:19.06 | cr2 | the format is very simple |
| 20:19.28 | cr2 | GIMP Palette |
| 20:19.28 | cr2 | Name: News3 |
| 20:19.28 | cr2 | # |
| 20:19.28 | cr2 | 236 232 4 Untitled |
| 20:19.35 | cr2 | r g b name |
| 20:19.41 | cr2 | colorname |
| 20:19.51 | kiozen | cr2: a nice page to refere to would be enought :) |
| 20:20.00 | cr2 | don't know any. |
| 20:20.39 | cr2 | then, when you are do color reduction, you need to choose this palette. that's all. |
| 20:21.15 | cr2 | you custom palettes go into ~/.gimp-2.2/palettes/ |
| 20:21.40 | kiozen | is there a way to extract the palette from a bitmap? |
| 20:21.56 | cr2 | gdalinfo |
| 20:22.11 | kiozen | right :) |
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| 20:22.56 | cr2 | to use convert, you'd convert this palette file in a 1x256 .pnm |
| 20:23.10 | dcordes | marbalon: can you upload the small initrd? |
| 20:23.24 | dcordes | pH5: can we make a git.linuxtogo.org msm git? |
| 20:24.15 | cr2 | then you can do something like 'convert -map mypalette-8.pnm -depth 8 +dither file.jpg file8.png' |
| 20:24.40 | marbalon | dcordes: just right now ;) http://www.sendspace.com/file/in4uvu |
| 20:24.45 | kiozen | hm, that's all not nice enought for a noob tutorial |
| 20:25.59 | cr2 | do you have some sample file ? |
| 20:26.29 | cr2 | i think with gimp it's an easier way, but 'convert' is better when you have 1000 files. |
| 20:27.08 | kiozen | cr2: well, the example from the tutorial |
| 20:31.03 | cr2 | is there a 'save palette' option in gimp ? |
| 20:31.47 | kiozen | haven't found one sofar |
| 20:32.13 | marbalon | dcordes: gpio 94 works fine, when I remove card pin=1, when card inserted pin=0 |
| 20:32.42 | cr2 | Image->Mode->Indexed... |
| 20:33.12 | cr2 | is the color reduction menu where you want to chose the palette. dithering is usually a bad idea |
| 20:33.52 | cr2 | Ctrl-P |
| 20:34.27 | cr2 | there is 'edit', 'new', 'duplicate', 'delete' and 'refresh'. |
| 20:34.38 | cr2 | but not save ;) |
| 20:35.03 | cr2 | only 'new' and then 'save' |
| 20:35.35 | cr2 | or other functions. |
| 20:35.52 | cr2 | so you need to create in manually it seems ? |
| 20:36.30 | kiozen | ok, let's say: get a copy of Photoshop and feel happy :) |
| 20:37.55 | cr2 | Tools->Color picker |
| 20:38.13 | cr2 | have zero experience with photoshop myself :) |
| 20:38.33 | cr2 | BabelO: can one save the palette in gimp ? |
| 20:38.51 | cr2 | from the indexed color image. |
| 20:38.52 | kiozen | cr2: It's easy in Photoshop, I found out in 5 min. |
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| 20:39.17 | cr2 | kiozen: which format photoshop uses for a palette ? |
| 20:39.37 | BabelO | cr2: no don't know, but if it is in photoshop, gimp can do it :) |
| 20:39.40 | kiozen | did check |
| 20:39.44 | cr2 | http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/resources/palettes/howto.html |
| 20:40.11 | dcordes_ | marbalon: same in wince 94 0x5e 26 I SD0 detect |
| 20:40.26 | dcordes_ | marbalon: did you tryout the power gpios? |
| 20:41.11 | kiozen | ahhhhhhhh :) |
| 20:42.01 | marbalon | dcordes: yes but no effect, but now I have kaiser_sdcc_slot_status working fine driver detect slot status change |
| 20:43.02 | cr2 | kiozen: could have been a button ;) |
| 20:43.14 | dcordes_ | marbalon: how do you check for gpios in your linuxbox? |
| 20:44.14 | cr2 | kiozen: wtf it's in the right button menu, but the only entry missing from the standard icons ? |
| 20:44.45 | marbalon | dcordes: gpio_get_value(94); |
| 20:45.32 | kiozen | cr2: huh? what menu |
| 20:45.33 | kiozen | ? |
| 20:45.52 | dcordes_ | marbalon: is that part of code or own program? |
| 20:48.05 | marbalon | no I put this in board-htcvogue.c in function mmc_platform_data.status |
| 20:49.27 | marbalon | dcordes: like in board-halibut.c -> halibut_sdcc_slot_status |
| 20:50.35 | dcordes_ | ah I see |
| 20:50.53 | cr2 | kiozen: in the palette dialog |
| 20:51.01 | dcordes_ | marbalon: and how do you scan gpios? |
| 20:54.16 | marbalon | dcordes_: I only define this function, driver use it |
| 20:55.20 | marbalon | dcordes_: still no luck witch booting ? |
| 20:59.18 | BabelO | kiozen: you have a new fan club :) |
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| 21:02.23 | cr2 | found a bug in the tsdog's string parser. |
| 21:02.34 | cr2 | nice, now it works as expected. |
| 21:04.48 | kiozen | BabelO: where ? |
| 21:05.07 | BabelO | kiozen: your mailing list, somone tried GT |
| 21:05.24 | kiozen | ah yes, I answered that right now :) |
| 21:06.00 | kiozen | GT has much more potential the the original one |
| 21:06.27 | kiozen | s/the the/than the/ |
| 21:09.18 | kiozen | good night |
| 21:09.20 | cr2 | kiozen: writing usespace code is a much more pleasant experience than digging through disassembly :) |
| 21:09.23 | cr2 | good night |
| 21:09.42 | kiozen | cr2: lol, I belive you :) |
| 21:10.50 | cr2 | BabelO: now he needs to remove javascript there :) |
| 21:11.41 | BabelO | cr2: javascript ;) where ? |
| 21:12.06 | BabelO | cr2: we have it in our windows software at work, not a good idea |
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| 21:16.32 | cr2 | BabelO: on qlandkarte.sf.net :) |
| 21:20.01 | BabelO | cr2: very very small js script, but you right it can be done with CSS only |
| 21:25.44 | cr2 | BabelO: i always surf with js=off,java=off,flash=removed,privoxy=on |
| 21:26.28 | BabelO | cr2: lol, you miss all good thing on the web :( and you are not web 2.0 compliant |
| 21:26.55 | BabelO | cr2: i use firefox + adblock plus + filterset = no advice at all |
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| 21:30.11 | cr2 | web2.0 java-xml on rails ? no thanks ;) |
| 21:30.39 | BabelO | cr2: and flex :) |
| 21:30.54 | cr2 | i've just got 151000 warnings from valgrind. |
| 21:31.05 | cr2 | +bison |
| 21:31.07 | BabelO | cr2: or http://www.rubyonrails.org/ |
| 21:31.31 | cr2 | but strtok()+strdup() is good for me :) |
| 21:32.30 | cr2 | yes, and then such people write the C code in the same style. |
| 21:33.26 | BabelO | cr2: i just try this evening to compile qtopia on top of qtopiacore 4.4 but there are change like qpixmap classes, so i ve to wait |
| 21:33.43 | cr2 | i always get a good laugh when somebody from the OSM people write a C program, and finds out that it's 2-10 times faster :) |
| 21:33.44 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 21:54.32 | dcordes_ | infernix: ping |
| 22:03.23 | cr2 | BabelO: something for tsdogs :) |
| 22:03.30 | cr2 | http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/29-46.jpg |
| 22:04.22 | BabelO | cr2: yes quality is good enough |
| 22:40.24 | BabelO | cr2: what is your ps magics ? |
| 22:40.50 | cr2 | where ? |
| 22:41.05 | BabelO | cr2: i usually use ps axf |
| 22:41.12 | BabelO | cr2: to see RSS ? |
| 22:41.26 | cr2 | uax |
| 22:41.51 | BabelO | root 1383 27.6 21.4 47472 27256 pts/0 Sl+ 10:27 0:54 ./browser -qws |
| 22:42.25 | cr2 | 27 from 64 is not that bad. |
| 22:42.44 | BabelO | cr2: it is on BA with webkit demo |
| 22:54.49 | cr2 | 128 :) |
| 22:59.50 | BabelO | ok i confirm it is webkit ;) |
| 23:00.00 | BabelO | same bug than other version on my website |
| 23:14.00 | pikapika | BabelO: pstree is nice too, i use it as pstree -n |
| 23:14.59 | BabelO | pikapika: but not compiled on blueangel ;) |
| 23:15.10 | pikapika | oh sure sorry :) |
| 23:16.53 | BabelO | good night |
| 23:17.00 | BabelO | bonne nuit marseille |
| 23:17.34 | pikapika | bonne nuit BabelO :) |
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