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00:56.50 | mib_ydcq90 | how would I find out if the kaiser touch screen is i2c or not? |
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07:27.48 | BabelO_ | morning |
07:29.59 | Marex-louise | BabelO_: hi |
07:30.12 | BabelO_ | Marex-louise: how is wired your pcmcia ? is there a wifi on it ? ;) |
07:45.59 | Marex-louise | BabelO_: yea, wifi from marvell |
07:46.14 | Marex-louise | no docs to it and it's pretty hard to reverse engineer on palmos |
07:46.33 | Marex-louise | I managed to load firmware into it, looks like marvell doesnt change this patch way too often |
07:46.42 | Marex-louise | s/patch/part/ |
07:47.04 | Marex-louise | but anyway, I havent gotten any further since it hanged when I tried some more commands |
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14:09.36 | Marex-louise | cr2: hi ;-) |
14:09.47 | Marex-louise | cr2: I still havent solved those issues with opie on palmtt5 |
14:13.03 | cr2 | ok |
14:15.02 | Marex-louise | but I have no idea what to do with it |
14:15.19 | Marex-louise | it works perfectly on palmld and I have no idea whether it's bug in opie or in kernel |
14:15.31 | Marex-louise | doesnt seems to be kernel bug though |
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14:24.02 | cr2 | Marex-louise: opie does not support the phone, and is not really source-compatible with qt2/3. so it's dead for me. |
14:24.19 | cr2 | BabelO: uwire is spi ? |
14:27.48 | Marex-louise | cr2: and gpe is bloated and slow :/ |
14:28.12 | Marex-louise | and it uses gtk so I dont like it much, I like opie more |
14:28.26 | Marex-louise | that's just my personal prefference though |
14:32.32 | cr2 | Marex-louise: i use qtopia |
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14:33.27 | cr2 | because it has phone support, and we have nice gps programs for it. |
14:33.42 | cr2 | which are portable. |
14:37.38 | Marex-louise | cr2: the one based on qt2 ? |
14:39.36 | cr2 | qt4 |
14:45.48 | Marex-louise | hmm ... some of us still have 32 and less megs of ram, you know ... |
14:47.15 | cr2 | hima/ba have 128, the most wince5 devices have 64 |
14:47.26 | cr2 | even my old sl5500 has 64 |
14:47.35 | Marex-louise | my old palmz71 has 16 |
14:47.39 | Marex-louise | most palms has 32 |
14:47.42 | cr2 | with its 208MHz sa1110 |
14:48.09 | cr2 | ok. |
14:53.55 | BabelO_ | Marex-louise: qoptia is ok with 32Mb too, really fast |
14:54.08 | BabelO_ | cr2: yes uwire is referenced under spi.x device |
14:54.24 | Marex-louise | cr2: hm, you mean that opie2 thing ? |
14:54.30 | BabelO_ | on omap it look same but faster, diff is written in an omap doc |
14:54.33 | Marex-louise | (or something similar) |
14:57.00 | cr2 | BabelO_: ok. i was looking at sirf |
14:57.36 | cr2 | BabelO_: i've found an old backup of my home from 2004 |
14:57.55 | cr2 | there are a lot of interesting things there |
14:58.05 | cr2 | which were lost later |
14:58.07 | BabelO_ | cr2: on omap850 ts is connect on mcspi which is mcspi bus |
14:58.29 | cr2 | BabelO_: the docs say 'uwire' |
14:58.43 | cr2 | and it's arm7tdmi cpu |
14:59.33 | cr2 | hmm. i think there should be linux for arm7tdmi |
15:04.26 | Raven_coda | If the arrow keys don't change any gpios or irq then how else could they work? |
15:04.41 | Raven_coda | Could HaRET just not see it? |
15:07.30 | cr2 | Raven_coda: on which machine ? |
15:07.36 | Raven_coda | kaiser |
15:08.01 | Raven_coda | cr2: I know that's not what you wanted to hear |
15:08.10 | cr2 | Raven_coda: the kaiser buttons are documented |
15:08.27 | Raven_coda | really? where |
15:09.02 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO |
15:09.44 | Raven_coda | but the arrow keys aren't included |
15:09.44 | cr2 | it looks like a matrix keyboard controller. on pxa |
15:09.56 | cr2 | trace the CPLD |
15:10.09 | Raven_coda | yeah, I'm trying to model after the halibut board |
15:10.12 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_CPLD |
15:10.21 | Raven_coda | unless you know of a better fitting keyboard driver |
15:11.44 | Raven_coda | I just noticed that for all the other keyboard keys those gpios move but for the arrow keys none of them do |
15:12.31 | Raven_coda | I'm still very green and thought doing the keyboard may just be a small enough job that I could handle |
15:23.17 | cr2 | Raven_coda: please check if CPLD gpios change. |
15:23.54 | cr2 | Raven_coda: the keys on blueangel are also split between the tsc2200 controller and asic3 gpio (i.e. CPLD) |
15:24.52 | Raven_coda | cr2: sorry for the noob question but I how do I monitor CPLD with Haret? |
15:25.20 | Raven_coda | I'll look over the blueangel keyboard driver to see if I can learn anything from it |
15:25.44 | cr2 | addlist gpios ... |
15:25.56 | cr2 | and then 'watch gpios' |
15:26.20 | cr2 | or you can check reads/write with 'addlist mmutrace' |
15:26.43 | cr2 | i don't remember if kaiser cpld is write-only or not. |
15:27.06 | cr2 | if it's write-only, you can't use watch gpios |
15:27.19 | Raven_coda | so would I do addlist gpios GPIOB0 or addlist gpios 0x001 ? |
15:27.27 | Raven_coda | k |
15:31.06 | Raven_coda | looks like I have some googleing to do, thanks for the help :) |
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16:56.02 | Nickbee | Hello All |
16:56.37 | Nickbee | a question: how can one flash hx4705 from SD card (i want to install windows on it) |
16:57.34 | Nickbee | it currently has got linux installed (qtopia) ... |
17:30.43 | dcordes | Nickbee, you want to boot from SD card within windows? |
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17:35.51 | Nickbee | dcordes: yes |
17:36.02 | dcordes | Nickbee, have a look at haret |
17:36.08 | Nickbee | actually want to flash windows mobile from SD card |
17:36.23 | dcordes | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET |
17:36.31 | dcordes | oh |
17:36.41 | Nickbee | no, the device currenly has linux |
17:36.43 | dcordes | I don't know whether that is possible |
17:36.54 | dcordes | I don't see the point in using both ;p |
17:37.25 | Nickbee | for me, i just want to remove linux and install windows instead |
17:37.52 | Nickbee | but i don't have the USB cab ... |
17:38.00 | Nickbee | so need to do it from SD card or CF card |
17:38.04 | dcordes | as long as you did not overwrite the first stage bootloader/flash tool no problem I think |
17:38.13 | dcordes | that I don't know |
17:38.29 | dcordes | maybe ask in #angstrom or google |
17:38.50 | Nickbee | i googled it a lot, but couldn't get anything |
17:39.03 | Nickbee | let me try the othe channel you recommened ... thanks! |
17:39.48 | dcordes | to me it looks like you require a USB cable in order to flash |
17:40.17 | Nickbee | yup, i ordered the USB cable on ebay and have been waiting for 2 months now ... still no delivery |
17:40.27 | Nickbee | so thought if i can get it somehow from SD |
17:40.55 | Nickbee | i know other windows devices can be flashed from SD card |
17:41.04 | Nickbee | but don't know how to do that with hx4705 |
17:41.08 | dcordes | oh that's frustrating (th ebay thing) |
17:41.24 | Nickbee | yup ... |
17:42.28 | Nickbee | its even frustrating when you can see the device in front of you but know you can't use it ... |
17:42.29 | Nickbee | :) |
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17:52.33 | pH5 | Nickbee: I always point people to http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/hx4700/wince when this comes up |
17:54.06 | Nickbee | WOW! |
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18:07.16 | psionfenix | either i'm stupid today, or i'm missing something. Can someone point me in the direction to connecting with haretconsole to do a gpio dump |
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18:13.45 | Raven_coda | psionfenix, can you see the device by IP? |
18:14.25 | psionfenix | no |
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18:14.32 | psionfenix | well, i've no idea how to see that IP of it |
18:14.37 | psionfenix | i looked through HAL |
18:14.46 | psionfenix | but just see /dev/ttyUSB0 |
18:14.50 | Raven_coda | Do you have a windows or linux PC |
18:14.53 | psionfenix | linux |
18:16.20 | Raven_coda | I'd reccommend using synce to setup the ip connection to the device |
18:16.31 | psionfenix | bleh, I hate synce. lol |
18:16.36 | Raven_coda | then you can just use the haret tools |
18:16.52 | Raven_coda | well, you can use whatever just as long as you can get an IP |
18:17.39 | psionfenix | yeah, synce doesnt like me...wait, there it went |
18:17.40 | Raven_coda | once there just start haret click list and the on the host PC type console [PDA IP address here] |
18:19.15 | psionfenix | ok, i got synce connected, haret is running on the pda with "Waiting for connection" |
18:19.17 | psionfenix | where do i find the IP? |
18:25.08 | Raven_coda | I think if you use pstats it will tell you |
18:25.16 | Raven_coda | *pstatus |
18:29.01 | psionfenix | it just pops up a warning |
18:29.39 | cr2 | psionfenix: i hate synce too, and always use haret over wifi |
18:30.05 | psionfenix | i like to BT files to myself, you think i could get the IP from there? |
18:30.28 | psionfenix | synce is too finicky for me, maybe i'm doing it wrong. (the only thing ms did semi-right was activesync, and even then, it's a load of bullocks) |
18:31.43 | cr2 | if i was forced to use synce, i'd really hate linux. |
18:32.46 | Raven_coda | You could use vxUtil on the phone to find it's ip |
18:32.52 | psionfenix | Part of my problem is i'm just getting BACK into linux |
18:32.58 | psionfenix | vxUtil, i have that on there, duh. lol |
18:33.12 | psionfenix | I always played with linux for a few days, then went back to windows for games and pda stuff |
18:33.30 | psionfenix | but on easter winxp crashed HARD and i thought, i have ubuntu dual booting, why not just use that instead |
18:35.55 | psionfenix | of course, the last time i REALLY played with linux was before they had support for my wifi card. But it seems that's changed (though i'm wired now) |
18:38.37 | dcordes | wifi in linux can be a lot of frustrating when you convert |
18:39.30 | psionfenix | yeah |
18:39.34 | psionfenix | ok...socket error... |
18:40.27 | dcordes | psionfenix, close and open haret |
18:40.30 | dcordes | make sure wifi is up |
18:40.45 | dcordes | or usb whatever connetion you use |
18:40.58 | psionfenix | k, i'll play for a minute |
18:41.03 | psionfenix | heh (thats dangerous usually) |
18:41.46 | dcordes | usually works for me when I get this error message on "listen". think that happens when haret didn't close the last connection |
18:42.54 | psionfenix | still giving me a connection refused |
18:42.55 | psionfenix | hm |
18:43.52 | BabelO | cr2: how can i create a linux live like goxboxlive do on uni ? ;) |
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18:47.30 | psionfenix | so i connect through synce, but then try to console and it says connection refused still |
18:48.11 | Raven_coda | can you ping the device? |
18:48.47 | cr2 | BabelO: the .cab ? or the linuxload.exe ? |
18:49.23 | cr2 | BabelO: linuxload is broken. for .cab there is some perl script. |
18:49.47 | BabelO | cr2: linuxload, i can use older revision |
18:49.55 | cr2 | but this script is a bit dumb, because it needs \Storage Crad |
18:51.16 | psionfenix | Raven_coda: doesnt look like it |
18:53.31 | Raven_coda | hmm, not sure then. At this point it may be easier to do as cr2 said and work over wifi |
18:54.46 | psionfenix | my device can ping my computer |
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18:58.40 | psionfenix | well i feel stupid. I was trying to use the cell line ip. |
18:58.41 | psionfenix | heh |
19:01.00 | psionfenix | well, it doesnt seem to be connecting anyway... |
19:07.05 | psionfenix | connection timed out. |
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19:33.07 | psionfenix | bleh. |
19:38.26 | merc | psionfenix: no luck ehh? |
19:38.57 | psionfenix | nada |
19:39.06 | psionfenix | wont even let me ping the device |
19:39.19 | psionfenix | i can ping myself though. |
19:39.42 | merc | sux, I've been lurking for the day pumping myself up for when I get home from work to play with this |
19:39.46 | psionfenix | though it doesnt seem like it wants to let me ping anything else |
19:41.49 | dcordes | psionfenix, tried out wifi? |
19:42.02 | psionfenix | vxutil didnt give me an ip for it |
19:43.05 | psionfenix | ok, i can ping this chat server now, but not my device. |
19:43.23 | psionfenix | merc: pumping yourself up for what? |
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19:44.20 | merc | messing with my kaiser |
19:44.40 | merc | remoted into my box now getting the reps downloaded |
19:44.56 | psionfenix | oh, you guys are much closer with the kaiser |
19:45.07 | psionfenix | i'm fooked with this titan |
19:45.12 | merc | it will come along |
19:45.29 | merc | I'm gonna see if I can make some headway with the key mappings |
19:45.33 | psionfenix | i think the problem is the ram, to be honest. |
19:45.45 | psionfenix | its working on vogue and kaiser, both have 128 RAM |
19:45.48 | psionfenix | i've got 64. |
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19:46.27 | merc | take it you have already tried to slim down initrd |
19:49.57 | psionfenix | ethereal got it down to like 12MB |
19:50.48 | psionfenix | 12.5 MB zipped |
19:53.00 | merc | damn and it still wont boot 4 u? |
19:53.42 | psionfenix | correct. |
19:53.56 | psionfenix | you could probably use it to boot up on the kaiser easily though |
19:54.25 | merc | is it posted somewhere? |
19:54.54 | psionfenix | i actually posted the full package for l33t |
19:55.00 | psionfenix | i'll get you the url |
19:55.23 | psionfenix | http://www.sendspace.com/file/qchjlu |
19:57.05 | merc | getting it now, but gotta ftp it to my site so I can grab it on my phone since I'm @ work |
20:02.32 | merc | is out...will be tinkerin later |
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20:21.52 | BabelO | ~ping Kevin2 |
20:21.52 | apt | pong Kevin2 |
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20:33.53 | cr2 | BabelO: you may check if linload.exe works on ba. the CVS version certainly does not work on n560, but the older versions (with the same zimage/config) work. |
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20:34.59 | plot02 | hi all |
20:36.13 | BabelO | cr2: linload works yes, but i use Kevin2 repository at linuxtogo |
20:36.20 | BabelO | hi plot02 |
20:36.20 | plot02 | i want information |
20:36.35 | plot02 | i want boot linux on my prophet but i have a problem |
20:36.36 | BabelO | hmmm plot02 be carefull with n=WinNT |
20:37.07 | plot02 | i set RAMSIZE to 0x01900000 |
20:37.09 | BabelO | plot02: prophet is omap850 ? |
20:37.13 | plot02 | yes |
20:38.04 | plot02 | and CMD "root=/dev/ram0" |
20:38.08 | cr2 | a huge ramdisk. |
20:38.21 | plot02 | ??? |
20:38.31 | cr2 | 25MB |
20:39.02 | plot02 | ok |
20:39.08 | cr2 | linload.exe uses some tricks to load such big ramdisk |
20:39.09 | plot02 | but what i set???? |
20:40.07 | cr2 | i guess it's a decompressor problem, when it has not enough space |
20:40.27 | plot02 | ok but what i do? |
20:40.41 | plot02 | i change the RAMSIZE to other? |
20:40.55 | plot02 | sorry for my english i'am french :) |
20:41.20 | cr2 | no, if your ramdisk is so big, you can't make much. |
20:41.52 | cr2 | maybe try to compile the linload.exe ? |
20:42.38 | plot02 | ok i reduce the Ramsize?? |
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20:53.36 | psionfenix | this is driving me crazy. lol |
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21:17.26 | Raven_coda | cr2, before I bang my head too much I thought I'd check with you. Do you know the i2c address of the kaiser touch screen? |
21:17.34 | Raven_coda | Is that documented somewhere? |
21:20.28 | cr2 | Raven_coda: in KaiserMemoryMap |
21:21.48 | psionfenix | still can't even ping my device. |
21:21.53 | psionfenix | this is...annoying to say the least. |
21:22.00 | Raven_coda | are there links to these pages somewhere so I can quit bugging you? the kaiser wiki only has the gpios and irqs linked on it |
21:23.27 | cr2 | Raven_coda: it's the main page |
21:23.48 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap |
21:26.21 | psionfenix | throws pos mogul outside in the snow. |
21:26.26 | psionfenix | i've had enough of that. |
21:26.51 | psionfenix | now i have to call up and get myold phone activated. |
21:26.52 | psionfenix | doh |
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22:37.15 | dcordes | Raven_coda: do you have a kaiser? |
22:41.42 | Raven_coda | I do |
22:42.58 | dcordes | did you find everything you need on xda wiki? |
22:43.06 | dcordes | best thing is to just search for "kaiser" |
22:43.17 | dcordes | will show you everything there is. memory map gpios irqs etc |
22:43.35 | Raven_coda | ah, yes that works great |
22:44.16 | dcordes | may I ask what you're about to do with touchscreen if we can't even access the display? |
22:44.30 | Raven_coda | we can |
22:44.50 | dcordes | did you boot seeing something? |
22:45.19 | Raven_coda | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383695 |
22:46.05 | Raven_coda | work with same initrd that works on vogue so display must not be that diff |
22:46.31 | Raven_coda | I know you, cr2 and dzo did a lot of research into iy |
22:46.33 | Raven_coda | *it |
22:48.06 | psionfenix | how do a dump the cpld with hareconsole? |
22:48.21 | Raven_coda | hey you got it working! |
22:49.08 | psionfenix | yeah |
22:49.41 | Raven_coda | I think you have to do addlist gpios to monitor the cpld |
22:49.55 | Raven_coda | cr2 tried explaining it to me earlier |
22:50.35 | dcordes | Raven_coda: dzo's vogue images do not work for me on kaiser. |
22:50.52 | Raven_coda | they didn't work for me a first ether |
22:51.10 | dcordes | so? |
22:51.27 | Raven_coda | I had to run the from main memory, uninstall any voice command software and do a softrest |
22:51.43 | Raven_coda | basically free as much memory as you can |
22:51.54 | Raven_coda | otherwise it just sits at go go go |
22:52.30 | dcordes | did you modify the boot settings? |
22:52.55 | Raven_coda | I flashed my ROM to a cut and dry version but I hear other people have it working on dutty's ROMs |
22:53.02 | Raven_coda | no |
22:53.09 | Raven_coda | at least not to get it to boot |
22:53.23 | dcordes | dutty? |
22:53.51 | Raven_coda | he makes a lot of windows ROMs with lots of extras |
22:54.24 | dcordes | I wonder how I could free ram in my windows mobile |
22:55.05 | psionfenix | install linux on it :P |
22:55.27 | dcordes | Raven_coda: have no voice command software running I could kill |
22:55.32 | dcordes | or anything extra |
22:55.53 | dcordes | no background application.. most likely I'm at minimum usage because there's nothing on my kaiser |
22:56.08 | dcordes | s/usage/ram usage/ |
22:56.10 | Raven_coda | hmm, did you try running it right after a softrest |
22:56.16 | dcordes | no |
22:56.33 | dcordes | I will give that a shot tomorrow. |
22:56.51 | Raven_coda | and without it plugged in (activesync gives it trouble) |
22:57.05 | Raven_coda | also, don't let the screen go dark |
22:57.06 | Raven_coda | my always locks up if that happens |
22:57.14 | dcordes | good |
22:57.48 | dcordes | cr2: how can I determine free ram in wm? |
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23:07.06 | psionfenix | ok...well, i didnt get cpld because i've got no idea how, but i did get mmu and gpios and all that. |
23:11.11 | dcordes | anyhow that's great news |
23:11.27 | dcordes | I will get it working tomorrow and porbably create a different filesystem |
23:11.48 | dcordes | bye |
23:32.33 | psionfenix | too bad there isnt a linux distro for my pos phone!!! |
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23:44.47 | merc | psionfenix: u get it working yet? |
23:45.04 | psionfenix | i got haretconsole to work, not sure how to get the cpld stuff though |
23:45.23 | merc | ahh what was the prob? |
23:46.05 | psionfenix | well, it wouldnt let me connect via usb, i ended up having to turn on the internet on the phone and connect that way |
23:48.05 | merc | ahhh |