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| 00:18.14 | pH5 | dcordes: now I am |
| 00:28.04 | cr2_ | hi pH5 |
| 00:28.13 | pH5 | 'evening cr2_ |
| 00:28.21 | cr2_ | lol |
| 00:28.52 | cr2_ | pH5: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GoPalP4225 |
| 00:29.38 | cr2_ | one more funny cpu |
| 00:29.57 | cr2_ | 284K of code for the GPS DSP. |
| 00:30.17 | cr2_ | WM8712 touchscreen and sound. |
| 00:31.12 | cr2_ | haret detects it as omap, which is wrong. |
| 00:32.59 | cr2_ | http://www.sirf.com/products/Atlas-IIIProductInsert.pdf |
| 00:34.46 | dcordes | pH5: I didn't get a kernel built with OE yet because gettext-native qa issue fails now instead of bison-native |
| 00:35.21 | dcordes | I havev a poky kernel locally though. could you hint me on how to compile the driver against that kernel? |
| 00:35.52 | dcordes | s/the driver/the driver for prism cf you refered to/ |
| 00:35.59 | pH5 | cr2_: look for TN2X0BD and AT4X0A on the arm-linux kernel list, I think there were some patches |
| 00:37.37 | cr2_ | pH5: interesting |
| 00:38.12 | cr2_ | http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg44828.html |
| 00:40.04 | cr2_ | pH5: looks very interesting :) |
| 00:40.51 | pH5 | dcordes: something's gotta be wrong with your OE checkout or bitbake version. I don't understand where those QA errors come from. |
| 00:41.25 | pH5 | dcordes: I guess the driver could be compiled by unpacking into the kernel tree at the right place and changing Makefile/Kconfig to include it. |
| 00:41.43 | pH5 | I don't know how to build external drivers against a given kernel, never done that. |
| 00:42.18 | dcordes | checkout is up to date and bitbake version is 1.8.10 |
| 00:42.19 | cr2_ | pH5: i've tried to offset the pxa kernel by 2MB, like it's done for aximx50. it makes the LCD very unhappy :( |
| 00:44.24 | cr2_ | tn2x0bd_wm9712_resources |
| 00:46.21 | pH5 | dcordes: RP (or the other OE folks) would know if that is new enough |
| 00:46.35 | pH5 | always uses bitbake from svn trunk |
| 00:52.04 | dcordes | pH5: cf card came with cd also including linux drivers |
| 00:52.37 | dcordes | wl_lkm_718_release.tar.gz wl_lkm_722_abg.tar.gz |
| 00:58.58 | cr2_ | pH5: you've saved me a lot of time :D |
| 01:01.56 | dcordes | for linux 2.4.x |
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| 11:53.13 | BabelO | bonjour |
| 12:04.15 | Marex | BabelO, konnichiwa |
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| 12:04.50 | BabelO | Marex: lol :) |
| 12:05.15 | BabelO | Marex: how is beetles ? |
| 12:05.27 | Marex | fine, but gsmd is still useless |
| 12:05.38 | Marex | I need OE, then I can start hacking on it |
| 12:05.57 | Marex | (need to patch gsmd a little bit) |
| 12:08.47 | BabelO | Marex: you can use http://algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/settihtc.c |
| 12:08.56 | BabelO | i use this to run on qtopia |
| 12:09.20 | Marex | BabelO, I wrote something like that myself too ;) |
| 12:10.03 | BabelO | ok |
| 12:10.21 | Marex | thanks though, I took a look on that too |
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| 12:27.47 | cr2_ | hi |
| 12:28.21 | cr2_ | BabelO: phmregedit does not want to work for me. are there any other registry editors ? |
| 12:28.36 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 12:28.45 | BabelO | cr2_: yes, i use totalcommander ;) |
| 12:28.53 | cr2_ | testwm5 does not work too. the gui looks like wince2.11, but says it's wince5.0 |
| 12:29.05 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 12:29.14 | BabelO | cr2_: http://www.ghisler.com/ce.htm |
| 12:29.36 | BabelO | cr2_: do you find why it see OMAP850 as processor ? |
| 12:29.57 | cr2_ | arm926js |
| 12:30.06 | BabelO | ah ok |
| 12:34.46 | BabelO | cr2_: a friend have a wince gps like this and it is locked, he found an application to unlock it and run all software on |
| 12:35.40 | cr2_ | nothing is locked on this model, you press 2 buttons on bootup and get into wince. |
| 12:35.54 | cr2_ | which runs in system mode. |
| 12:35.56 | BabelO | ok |
| 12:36.51 | cr2_ | afair the older 'locked' models use s3c24xx |
| 13:01.48 | BabelO | cr2_: i m still with qlandkarte or roadmap, how can i export my curent maps from qgis for one of this app ? |
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| 13:08.29 | kiozen | BabelO: raster or vector maps? |
| 13:08.52 | BabelO | kiozen: i want to use it with qlandkarteM so i think raster ? |
| 13:09.18 | kiozen | are they already in raster format? |
| 13:09.53 | BabelO | kiozen: no i transform from rus -> shp file in qgis |
| 13:10.34 | kiozen | BabelO: ok, that is really a case for cr2_, I don't know how to render these files to a bitmap |
| 13:11.10 | BabelO | kiozen: ok so i ll look for a plugin |
| 13:11.42 | BabelO | kiozen: qlandkartem works well on ba, the transparent is due to stylesheet on widget |
| 13:11.56 | kiozen | BabelO: once you have a referenced raster file of any GDAL compatible format it's easy |
| 13:12.01 | BabelO | and some strange thing happen because of the height of your form |
| 13:12.13 | BabelO | ok |
| 13:12.22 | kiozen | which height? |
| 13:14.29 | BabelO | kiozen: form height, because of top bar and bottom bar in qpe |
| 13:15.32 | kiozen | BabelO: doesn't qtopia do it right? Do not use -qws if you use qpe |
| 13:16.04 | BabelO | kiozen: no it look strange, i m doing screenshot to show you ;) |
| 13:22.26 | BabelO | kiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/qtopia/screenes/qlandkartem/ |
| 13:23.50 | kiozen | BabelO: that looks ok to me except the transparency |
| 13:23.59 | BabelO | ok |
| 13:24.09 | BabelO | so i need a maaaapppp |
| 13:24.11 | BabelO | :) |
| 13:24.16 | BabelO | let me try fix now |
| 13:24.44 | kiozen | yes a map will help definetly ;) |
| 13:25.03 | cr2_ | BabelO: deactivate and desactivate are 2 different things :) |
| 13:26.04 | cr2_ | BabelO: you can save the .png screenshots in qgis, but it sounds like a PITA for me to import them into M. |
| 13:28.48 | BabelO | :( |
| 13:28.58 | BabelO | cr2_: no qgis plugin to export raster map ? |
| 13:29.29 | kiozen | BabelO: or you can grab a scanner and try out my map referencing tutorial :) |
| 13:34.15 | BabelO | kiozen: yes, i just need to wait my wife, because maps are in car |
| 13:34.28 | kiozen | lol |
| 13:34.37 | kiozen | no hiking map around? |
| 13:39.10 | BabelO | kiozen: yes one map of montpellier |
| 13:40.14 | BabelO | kiozen: is jpeg format ok to do that |
| 13:40.48 | kiozen | BabelO: you can convert it with gimp to a 8bit pallet tiff |
| 13:41.36 | cr2_ | BabelO: convert file.jpg file.gif |
| 13:42.24 | cr2_ | BabelO: convert -depth 8 -colors 255 +dither file.jpg file.png |
| 13:42.42 | cr2_ | 255 may be lower, depending on the map. |
| 13:43.27 | BabelO | ok i ll try with my office scanner ;) |
| 13:45.39 | BabelO | cr2_: http://www.ipaperlessoffice.com/koi6seii6i6s.html with this one i can do nice picture ;) |
| 13:46.24 | kiozen | BabelO: but how does the map fit into the tray? |
| 13:46.57 | BabelO | kiozen: i can do two half at the same time |
| 13:47.42 | cr2_ | BabelO: size/dpi ? |
| 13:48.07 | kiozen | will be interesting to see what happens at the tile borders |
| 13:48.40 | BabelO | wa scan A3 format with it, i just have tocrif i remember this one can do up to 600 |
| 13:48.55 | cr2_ | ok |
| 13:49.40 | BabelO | cr2_: but 30 000$ for scanner is a bt cheaper :) |
| 13:51.19 | kiozen | BabelO: 300dpi is enought, with 600dpi you will see the points of the offset print. |
| 13:53.15 | BabelO | kiozen: yes :), image quality should be better, because it is roller feed.. not a home scanner with a feed |
| 13:54.15 | kiozen | if that works, I'll sent you some paper maps via snail mail :P |
| 13:55.11 | BabelO | :) |
| 13:58.24 | cr2_ | :) |
| 13:58.43 | Marex | woohoo ... DoC G3 on palmtt5 is detected by that universal's docg3.c |
| 13:58.45 | Marex | :) |
| 14:07.43 | cr2_ | Marex: there is only 1 minor problem with docg3.c, otherwise it will work. |
| 14:07.54 | cr2_ | Marex: 16bit or 8bit access ? |
| 14:07.55 | Marex | which is ? |
| 14:08.07 | Marex | I just gave it a shot |
| 14:08.17 | Marex | I havent looked into the code much |
| 14:08.30 | cr2_ | the mdoc size is hardcoded. and the data read is 32bit. |
| 14:08.57 | Marex | I have two 128mb chips |
| 14:09.37 | Marex | ok, I will look at it |
| 14:10.55 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.56 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.56 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.56 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.14 | cr2_ | this is a bit questionable, if it'll really. |
| 14:11.19 | cr2_ | work |
| 14:11.40 | Marex | :D |
| 14:11.51 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.52 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.10 | cr2_ | the 0x4000000 is bad too. not everybody has 64MB |
| 14:12.46 | cr2_ | Marex: the IPL uses a different address here tmp = ReadDOC_32(g3->virtaddr, DoC_G3_IO+4); |
| 14:12.57 | cr2_ | otherwise the code is ok. |
| 14:13.36 | cr2_ | Marex: and the IPL does a 16bit read (ldrh). on the machines with 16bit access. don't know about 8bit. |
| 14:14.43 | Marex | I see |
| 14:14.51 | Marex | cr2_, I will check it later |
| 14:14.56 | Marex | gotta leave for a train now |
| 14:15.07 | Marex | bye and thanks :) |
| 14:17.51 | Marex | cr2_, btw could it be that those two chips are both mmaped to 0x0 ? |
| 14:18.10 | Marex | maybe they are wired together |
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| 14:31.11 | cr2_ | this is evil ;) |
| 14:31.14 | cr2_ | linux/kernel26/arch/arm/mach-pxa/Makefile.boot |
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| 14:38.47 | cr2_ | kiozen: i've got your e-mail. found a problem with the +2MB offset, rebooting. |
| 14:40.17 | kiozen | cr2_: sound promissing :) |
| 14:43.05 | cr2_ | hmm. WSOD went away, but it still does not boot. |
| 14:43.57 | cr2_ | BabelO: totalcommander works. how can i see the registry ? |
| 14:44.27 | cr2_ | ah. i'm dumb. |
| 14:44.38 | cr2_ | set MTYPE 1234 |
| 14:46.06 | BabelO | cr2_: in file navigator go to // |
| 14:46.19 | cr2_ | wow |
| 14:46.50 | cr2_ | kiozen: booted with 2MB offset now. and 32MB RAM, will check 62MB ram now. |
| 14:46.54 | cr2_ | BabelO: ok. |
| 14:47.30 | cr2_ | dcordes: are you here ? |
| 14:49.13 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:49.13 | cr2_ | Mem: 29460 20136 9324 0 984 14100 |
| 14:50.09 | kiozen | that's not 62MB :) |
| 14:51.10 | cr2_ | 32 |
| 14:51.16 | BabelO | cr2_: qgis -> print -> export image :) |
| 14:51.43 | cr2_ | BabelO: but only the onscreen ? |
| 14:52.00 | cr2_ | dd if=/dev/mem skip=2621440 bs=1024 of=2MB count=2048 |
| 14:52.06 | cr2_ | segfault :) |
| 14:52.25 | cr2_ | why ? |
| 14:52.45 | cr2_ | awk '{print 0xa0000000/1024}' |
| 14:52.51 | cr2_ | 2621440 |
| 14:53.42 | cr2_ | <1>[ 335.640000] Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address bfe00000 |
| 14:53.42 | cr2_ | <1>[ 335.650000] pgd = c10f0000 |
| 14:53.42 | cr2_ | <1>[ 335.650000] [bfe00000] *pgd=00000000 |
| 14:53.42 | cr2_ | <4>[ 335.660000] Internal error: Oops: f5 [#1] |
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| 14:55.29 | cr2_ | kiozen: dmesg |
| 14:55.31 | cr2_ | <6>[ 0.000000] Memory: 32MB = 32MB total |
| 14:55.32 | cr2_ | <5>[ 0.000000] Memory: 29348KB available (2684K code, 267K data, 112K init) |
| 14:56.13 | kiozen | only 32 MB build in? |
| 14:57.02 | cr2_ | i'll change to 62. |
| 14:57.13 | cr2_ | hmm. still resumes into wince... |
| 14:58.04 | BabelO | ok, now i got a png image , need to co,vert to tiff |
| 14:59.19 | BabelO | kiozen: 1334*853 pix, in gimp what are correct tiff params for gt ? |
| 14:59.44 | dcordes | cr2_: yep |
| 15:01.32 | cr2_ | dcordes: i've booted the kernel on pxa with a 2MB offset |
| 15:03.11 | dcordes | what does that mean/do? |
| 15:03.35 | cr2_ | kiozen: FSC made everything to make resume a PITA |
| 15:03.59 | cr2_ | dcordes: the first two megabytes of RAM are invisible to the kernel and are not used. |
| 15:04.41 | dcordes | so what advantage does that bring? |
| 15:04.50 | kiozen | BabelO: that sounds ok, QLandkarte can digest huge files, gimp is more a problem |
| 15:05.06 | cr2_ | dcordes: you can leave your FB ram as is. |
| 15:05.40 | BabelO | kiozen: how i set it to 8 bit , and which compression ? |
| 15:05.53 | cr2_ | BabelO: 1334*853 is peanuts. i've used 24000x21000 |
| 15:06.09 | BabelO | :) |
| 15:06.34 | dcordes | cr2_: so we can use FB ram from wm? |
| 15:06.47 | cr2_ | dcordes: yes. |
| 15:06.54 | cr2_ | dcordes: with vsfb |
| 15:07.02 | dcordes | could one try that on kaiser? |
| 15:07.09 | dcordes | if any useful |
| 15:07.13 | kiozen | BabelO: in gimp picture->mode->indexed |
| 15:07.27 | cr2_ | dcordes: in theory. |
| 15:07.50 | kiozen | BabelO: or you do as cr2_ said: convert -depth 8 -colors 255 +dither file.jpg file.png |
| 15:08.05 | cr2_ | dcordes: msm is a different arch, so the bootup may be different. |
| 15:08.11 | BabelO | kiozen: it is already png ;) |
| 15:08.28 | kiozen | with 8 but pallet? then it's fine |
| 15:08.33 | cr2_ | BabelO: convert -depth 8 -colors 255 +dither file.png file8.png |
| 15:08.35 | kiozen | s/but/bit/ |
| 15:08.45 | dcordes | cr2_: I'm always happy to test things in case you'd like to make something up |
| 15:09.03 | cr2_ | BabelO: or just 'convert file.png file.gif' |
| 15:09.07 | BabelO | kiozen: ok done |
| 15:09.19 | cr2_ | kiozen: i doubt BabelO uses 8bit screen depth :) |
| 15:09.40 | cr2_ | dcordes: ok. |
| 15:10.14 | dcordes | bbian |
| 15:10.17 | dcordes | bbiab |
| 15:10.46 | BabelO | kiozen: good now i see it in gt, i use 3 points |
| 15:11.09 | kiozen | ok |
| 15:11.15 | cr2_ | kiozen: now it looks so |
| 15:11.18 | cr2_ | <6>[ 0.000000] Memory: 62MB = 62MB total |
| 15:11.18 | cr2_ | <5>[ 0.000000] Memory: 59776KB available (2684K code, 267K data, 112K init) |
| 15:11.36 | kiozen | ok , now I can waste mem again :D |
| 15:11.41 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.41 | cr2_ | Mem: 59932 20024 39908 0 864 14100 |
| 15:12.19 | cr2_ | i don't understand why the /dev/ram access segfaulted ;) |
| 15:12.38 | cr2_ | bs=4096 |
| 15:12.50 | cr2_ | awk '{print 0xa0000000/4096}' |
| 15:12.58 | cr2_ | 655360 |
| 15:13.03 | cr2_ | offset in pages |
| 15:13.44 | cr2_ | dd if=/dev/ram bs=4096 skip=655360 count=1 of=firstpage |
| 15:13.50 | cr2_ | should work imho. |
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| 15:14.20 | cr2_ | not ram, mem :) |
| 15:15.42 | cr2_ | strange |
| 15:17.27 | cr2_ | iomem looks good |
| 15:17.29 | cr2_ | a0200000-a3ffffff : System RAM |
| 15:17.30 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:17.30 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:17.51 | cr2_ | the kernel is huge :) |
| 15:18.17 | cr2_ | kiozen: we wanted to run it on 60/76Cx with 2MB SRAM ;) |
| 15:18.59 | kiozen | cr2_: guess we can strip a lot of stuff |
| 15:19.02 | cr2_ | but xip in nor flash could help. |
| 15:19.20 | cr2_ | n560 can't do xip. |
| 15:19.51 | cr2_ | kiozen: yes, i think there are a lot of unneeded things there. |
| 15:20.40 | kiozen | how easy to find out the minimum requirements |
| 15:20.42 | kiozen | ? |
| 15:20.59 | BabelO | kiozen once i found my point on map how can i set coordiante ? |
| 15:21.24 | cr2_ | kiozen: by removing the unneeded drivers |
| 15:21.24 | kiozen | BabelO: you are in the referencing dialog? |
| 15:21.38 | BabelO | kiozen: yes, i set point with step two |
| 15:22.07 | kiozen | BabelO: "add ref." and move the marker on the map |
| 15:22.23 | kiozen | then you have to add the coord. in the list |
| 15:22.56 | cr2_ | kiozen: the kernel data is 274391, it is in RAM, but the .text can be in xip. so M has 1.7MB to run :) |
| 15:22.59 | BabelO | sorry don't understand, i do addref, i move marker on the map to a known position, how i add coord now ? |
| 15:23.02 | kiozen | use google earth/map to get the coord. |
| 15:23.45 | kiozen | BabelO: doble click on the empty field in the list |
| 15:24.24 | cr2_ | kiozen: btw, is ctrl-v the only option to paste into this field ? |
| 15:24.26 | BabelO | kiozen: yes i use gmaps already, but in fields list,point are in pixel, should i replace them with double click in |
| 15:25.01 | cr2_ | BabelO: x and y are changed by moving the 'air balloon' |
| 15:25.32 | BabelO | cr2_: yes i understand this part, but don't found how to insert point coord in |
| 15:25.39 | cr2_ | BabelO: you can change the label, and the coordinates table fields. |
| 15:25.49 | BabelO | i can double click in x column and change value |
| 15:26.01 | kiozen | cr2_: yes it's generic to the widget |
| 15:26.08 | cr2_ | BabelO: usually you don't need to. |
| 15:26.23 | kiozen | BabelO: sure you can, but it's easier to move the marker :) |
| 15:26.29 | cr2_ | LOL |
| 15:26.55 | BabelO | ok i do screenshot, wait |
| 15:27.39 | cr2_ | BabelO: can i save the registry into a text file ? |
| 15:28.14 | BabelO | cr2_: ah, don't emember with totalcommander :( isn't a dump ? |
| 15:31.06 | kiozen | BabelO: eh mec, ca marche? |
| 15:31.12 | BabelO | kiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/qtopia/screenes/qlandkartem/qlandkartegt.png |
| 15:31.57 | kiozen | BabelO: just the coords missing :) |
| 15:32.25 | cr2_ | BabelO: you should have selected mercator+wgs84 in qgis, but ok. |
| 15:32.28 | BabelO | kiozen: yes, but still don't understand how to enter coord here :( |
| 15:32.59 | kiozen | see the treewidget with the coord. collumn? |
| 15:33.03 | cr2_ | because it'd be a user-defined projection for some reason, it's not easy for a beginner :) |
| 15:33.20 | BabelO | kiozen: yes i see |
| 15:33.35 | BabelO | kiozen: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 15:33.45 | kiozen | what happens if you double click column at ref 5... ok |
| 15:34.04 | BabelO | kiozen: now i see the coord column, maybe a small text saying <enter coord>, should be good :) |
| 15:34.05 | kiozen | oh la la, le mec!! :) |
| 15:34.13 | cr2_ | 88.7MHz |
| 15:34.20 | kiozen | BabelO: ok that is feasible |
| 15:34.51 | kiozen | cr2_: radio station? |
| 15:36.27 | BabelO | kiozen: hmmm my coord are bad, i just copy paste the one from google :) |
| 15:36.40 | kiozen | what is the format? |
| 15:37.14 | BabelO | ok good i remove the , |
| 15:37.46 | cr2_ | kiozen: RDS for TMC, but it seems TMC uses uart ? |
| 15:38.06 | cr2_ | MX9080ZC chip |
| 15:38.11 | cr2_ | who is MX ? |
| 15:41.08 | BabelO | hmmm |
| 15:41.18 | kiozen | ? |
| 15:42.12 | BabelO | cr2_: mx is motorola too i think |
| 15:43.05 | BabelO | kiozen: one i press on go on, i close the wizard |
| 15:43.39 | kiozen | BabelO: shouldn't close |
| 15:44.01 | BabelO | i got a lunel_ref.tif now |
| 15:44.55 | cr2_ | 480x272 LCD is fun |
| 15:45.34 | kiozen | BabelO: that is ok, now create a *.qmap file for it |
| 15:46.13 | cr2_ | 2MB video memory. |
| 15:49.54 | BabelO | kiozen: when i reload _ref tif file, orientation of map is bad |
| 15:49.59 | BabelO | 90° |
| 15:50.24 | kiozen | lol, maybe you swaped lon/lat? |
| 15:50.57 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's lon lat, not lat long in the table |
| 15:51.32 | BabelO | :( poor me |
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| 15:57.25 | kiozen | hehe, google does it lat / lon, I can see in your screenshot |
| 15:57.40 | cr2_ | kiozen: btw, does gpsmapedit use plate carrée ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equirectangular_projection |
| 15:57.50 | cr2_ | kiozen: what about garmin ? |
| 15:58.44 | kiozen | cr2_: IMHO garmin uses mercator |
| 15:59.35 | cr2_ | kiozen: does it reproject the lat/long in realtime ? |
| 15:59.53 | kiozen | AFAIK yes |
| 16:00.07 | cr2_ | hm. interesting |
| 16:00.11 | kiozen | that is why they take more time to render, but less memory |
| 16:00.40 | cr2_ | then there should be some clever integer log(tan()) approximation. |
| 16:01.27 | kiozen | cr2_: sure and they have a nice DSP |
| 16:01.44 | cr2_ | i've found some contradictory statements what is the fastest integer sqrt() |
| 16:01.59 | cr2_ | i doubt they use dsp. |
| 16:03.25 | cr2_ | evil FSC. maybe i'd write the lcd spi driver first ;) |
| 16:03.47 | kiozen | cr2_: I think they use DSP, else it would take ages to render the map |
| 16:06.11 | kiozen | BabelO: you had success? |
| 16:06.43 | BabelO | kiozen: yes now i create a qmap from scratch with wizard |
| 16:07.03 | kiozen | ok, you are close to success :) |
| 16:07.19 | kiozen | and tell me what to do better! |
| 16:07.55 | BabelO | kiozen: looking for elevation maps at www.terrainmap.com |
| 16:09.02 | kiozen | BabelO: http://srtm.csi.cgiar.org/ |
| 16:09.17 | kiozen | but 90m DEM is no fun wit GT |
| 16:09.32 | cr2_ | kiozen: add a per GCP projection to make it better :) |
| 16:09.33 | kiozen | my interpolation is too bad for that |
| 16:10.04 | kiozen | cr2_: why on earth do you want a different projection for each GCP |
| 16:10.50 | cr2_ | kiozen: latlong from GPS + latlong in weird datum + GK grid |
| 16:11.22 | kiozen | if you have a GK grid you are fine |
| 16:11.40 | cr2_ | kiozen: and the draw grid option |
| 16:11.53 | kiozen | yes that might be nice |
| 16:12.05 | cr2_ | some maps have the GK grid, but no numbers :( |
| 16:13.46 | cr2_ | or you are not an expert in projections, so you can't use the numbers in a right way. |
| 16:14.10 | cr2_ | i.e. the zone number is missing. |
| 16:14.59 | cr2_ | i've read a lot about the problems people have with ozi |
| 16:15.20 | kiozen | if you have no knowledge of projectios, I doubt you will ever be able to reference a map. |
| 16:15.57 | kiozen | or you stick to known points via GPS or GE |
| 16:16.24 | cr2_ | latlong from gps + mercator is the easiest "generic" option |
| 16:16.41 | cr2_ | btw. |
| 16:17.10 | cr2_ | does GE show real wgs84 latlong ? |
| 16:17.54 | cr2_ | i think yes. but the GE tiles are not +proj=merc +ellps=WGS84 |
| 16:18.10 | kiozen | now you ask... but I would say yes, as most users know coords just from their GPS |
| 16:18.12 | BabelO | kiozen: where did you store maps with M ? i still see old |
| 16:18.44 | kiozen | BabelO: /home/root for both *.qmap and tif |
| 16:18.52 | cr2_ | kiozen: yes, i think so too. otherwise you'll get a position-dependent offset, and the people will be unhappy. |
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| 16:19.12 | kiozen | BabelO: and watch out for the correct relative path in qmap |
| 16:19.42 | kiozen | the only users I know not using WGS84 are the Swiss |
| 16:19.52 | kiozen | they stick to their Swiss Grid |
| 16:20.33 | cr2_ | ? |
| 16:21.16 | cr2_ | datum=potsdam is not wgs84 too. |
| 16:21.21 | kiozen | cr2_: if there are question concerning different coord style for Garmin, they are from Swiss people that want to use Swiss Grid |
| 16:22.00 | cr2_ | i think each EU country uses its own datum+projection. which is a PITA of course. |
| 16:22.12 | kiozen | cr2_: yes but in GT you will never hear a thing about postdam or similar, it's all WGS84 to the user |
| 16:22.23 | cr2_ | kiozen: garmin lets you set the user datum too :) |
| 16:22.44 | kiozen | cr2_: but unly the Swiss seem to do it :) |
| 16:22.51 | cr2_ | lol |
| 16:23.14 | cr2_ | btw, it can't set the +lat_0= there |
| 16:23.40 | kiozen | ? lat_0 where? |
| 16:23.46 | cr2_ | and garmin is EVIL for not showing the altitude in the sat menu. |
| 16:23.57 | cr2_ | in user projection |
| 16:24.10 | cr2_ | +lon_0= is there. |
| 16:24.12 | BabelO | kiozen: http://pastebin.ca/974145 |
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| 16:24.55 | cr2_ | BabelO: looks good |
| 16:24.58 | cr2_ | zoomLevelMax=4 |
| 16:24.58 | cr2_ | zoomLevelMin=1 |
| 16:25.17 | cr2_ | only kiozen can understand this :) |
| 16:25.29 | cr2_ | imho normal people should use 'gdaladdo' |
| 16:26.08 | kiozen | BabelO: bottomright and topleft look fishy |
| 16:26.26 | kiozen | and two home sections, too |
| 16:26.30 | kiozen | is that from GT? |
| 16:27.12 | BabelO | kiozen: yes from export |
| 16:27.36 | cr2_ | kiozen: bottomright = topleft |
| 16:27.46 | cr2_ | kiozen: but are they really used ? |
| 16:28.12 | kiozen | BabelO: did you select a real area or just a point? |
| 16:28.42 | kiozen | cr2_: I think M uses them, but not sue :) |
| 16:29.04 | kiozen | BabelO: why don't you just copy the original qmap and tif |
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| 16:29.24 | BabelO | kiozen: ahhhh, it is an area, lol i click on export, it does not display dialog box, so i click on map :) |
| 16:29.47 | kiozen | click-n-move |
| 16:30.19 | kiozen | BabelO: the tool tip does tell you ;) |
| 16:38.57 | BabelO | kiozen: i does not see the map.. |
| 16:39.35 | kiozen | can you see it with GT? |
| 16:39.49 | BabelO | kiozen: yes |
| 16:39.59 | kiozen | and use the same path for qmap and tif |
| 16:40.11 | kiozen | (no subdir) |
| 16:40.55 | kiozen | center=" some coord. " must be in your map area |
| 16:42.05 | BabelO | kiozen:http://pastebin.ca/974169 this is qmap in /home/root and tif file at same place |
| 16:43.24 | kiozen | hm looks ok, is it listed in M? |
| 16:43.31 | BabelO | kiozen: and i can see 12 satellites :) |
| 16:43.41 | BabelO | yes listed in M |
| 16:43.47 | BabelO | should i select map ? |
| 16:43.57 | kiozen | and you selected the map? by select button? |
| 16:44.34 | kiozen | ah, that can be the problem, |
| 16:44.36 | BabelO | now, it is selected |
| 16:44.49 | kiozen | you have to use the hw keys |
| 16:46.09 | BabelO | kiozen: |
| 16:46.12 | BabelO | "+proj=merc +lon_0=0 +k=1.000000 +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +ellps=WGS84 +datum=WGS84 +units=m +no_defs " |
| 16:46.13 | BabelO | 458314 5.38785e+06 462261 5.3839e+06 |
| 16:46.25 | BabelO | red circle and black circle |
| 16:46.39 | kiozen | ok it seems to load the file |
| 16:47.04 | kiozen | maybe it's referenced badly and is not visible at your coord. |
| 16:47.18 | kiozen | did you test with a known point in GT? |
| 16:47.26 | BabelO | no ;) |
| 16:48.22 | BabelO | kiozen: point seem ok N43° 41.097 E004° 07.757 |
| 16:48.51 | kiozen | and the GPS coord is valid, too? |
| 16:49.12 | kiozen | can you upload the files? |
| 16:49.23 | BabelO | kiozen: displayed in red color is N43° 01.059 E00411.9m |
| 16:50.31 | kiozen | try to lock the cursors with "gps mode" |
| 16:51.27 | kiozen | ok, I have to barbeque now, I will watch with one eye, back later |
| 16:51.48 | BabelO | kiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/qtopia/QLandkarteM/ |
| 16:51.54 | BabelO | ok |
| 16:54.10 | BabelO | cr2_: did you see your position in M ? |
| 16:56.24 | cr2_ | BabelO: i don't get a fix here |
| 16:56.34 | cr2_ | BabelO: i need to download a bigger map. |
| 16:56.43 | cr2_ | and check it elsewhere. |
| 16:57.31 | BabelO | cr2_: it seel there is an error here N43° 41.097 E004° 07.757 (on gt ) and N43° 01.059 E00411.9m ( on device ) |
| 16:57.38 | BabelO | s/seel/seem/ |
| 16:58.07 | kiozen | BabelO: that is because the font size |
| 16:58.25 | kiozen | it's the coord mixed up with the elevation value |
| 16:58.32 | BabelO | ok |
| 16:58.49 | BabelO | but 41.0 vs 01.059 |
| 17:00.26 | kiozen | oh right that is bad |
| 17:00.51 | kiozen | you know your home coord? |
| 17:02.30 | BabelO | kiozen: 43.684277, 4.129756 |
| 17:03.35 | kiozen | use the search to convert |
| 17:03.37 | kiozen | N43° 41.057 E004° 07.785 |
| 17:04.30 | kiozen | strange that the NMEA value (red) does not match |
| 17:08.42 | BabelO | kiozen: good point is that i get same gps value than in tomtom :) |
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| 17:18.57 | cr2_ | kiozen: do you have https on qlandkarte.org ? |
| 17:33.38 | BabelO | cr2_: can i use another theme in qgis ? ;) |
| 17:34.22 | cr2_ | BabelO: which files are you loading ? |
| 17:35.13 | BabelO | cr2_: shp file extracted from rus :) |
| 17:35.30 | cr2_ | how did you extract it ? |
| 17:37.16 | BabelO | cr2_: like you told me ;) with cgsmapper |
| 17:37.58 | BabelO | now i see my map if i don t use gps position |
| 17:46.47 | kiozen | cr2_: no https yet |
| 17:47.09 | kiozen | have to check what the provider allows |
| 17:47.25 | kiozen | but forgot the url for admin access |
| 17:47.31 | cr2_ | BabelO: i think you can use 'individual value' renderer on 'type' column, and save the style to a .qml file ? |
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| 17:48.03 | cr2_ | kiozen: i think that a user cert is better than a plaintext password. |
| 17:48.51 | kiozen | cr2_: it's more to keep google out ;) I just don't want these pages idexed |
| 17:49.03 | BabelO | kiozen: i think it is a bad parsing of gps coor, because else values are ok ;) |
| 17:49.35 | kiozen | let's see, I have to ground my son first |
| 17:50.52 | cr2_ | kiozen: http://www.garex.net/apache |
| 17:51.50 | kiozen | cr2_: it's more the question what the provider let me do |
| 17:52.15 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 17:52.49 | cr2_ | kiozen: you may run ssl on port 80 :) but that will piss off a lot of people :) |
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| 18:15.57 | kiozen | BabelO: you use my binary, or compile your own? |
| 18:16.18 | BabelO | kiozen: your binary |
| 18:16.34 | kiozen | ok, I make one with debug output |
| 18:16.42 | BabelO | ok |
| 18:25.43 | kiozen | BabelO: uploaded |
| 18:26.04 | kiozen | this will dump the NMEA sentence for position via qDebug |
| 18:26.12 | kiozen | can you pastebin the result? |
| 18:35.16 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, i just restart artemis, gps hang |
| 18:40.45 | BabelO | kiozen: http://pastebin.ca/974302 |
| 18:41.55 | BabelO | kiozen: it looks good, 4341.0506 and not 4301.0506 |
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| 18:47.56 | BabelO | kiozen: did you see my pastebin ? |
| 18:48.46 | kiozen | yes, bt is just kind of fucked up |
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| 18:55.54 | kiozen | stupid error! |
| 18:56.09 | kiozen | ~lart kiozen |
| 18:56.09 | apt | slaps kiozen around with a large trout |
| 18:56.19 | kiozen | ok that's fair |
| 18:57.12 | kiozen | my home coords are too close to a confluence point :) |
| 18:57.19 | BabelO | :) |
| 18:57.28 | kiozen | BabelO: new binary to download |
| 18:57.31 | BabelO | ok |
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| 18:59.51 | BabelO | kiozen: same thing, , i ll check if i use the good one |
| 19:01.41 | kiozen | hm, my debug output says it's ok now |
| 19:02.41 | BabelO | kiozen: ok |
| 19:02.48 | BabelO | kiozen: i mean it works now :) |
| 19:02.49 | kiozen | yes! |
| 19:03.30 | kiozen | yes, that was a stupid bug. |
| 19:03.45 | kiozen | got confused by QString::mid() |
| 19:04.11 | BabelO | kiozen: i need to extract google maps now ;) look better with stret name |
| 19:04.31 | kiozen | and cr2_ must be close to a confluence point, too, as he did not notice |
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| 19:05.28 | BabelO | kiozen: what about the top display with coord ? can you shift elevation ? |
| 19:05.48 | kiozen | shift elevation? |
| 19:06.13 | BabelO | kiozen: yes put elevation to the right in top label bar :) |
| 19:06.28 | kiozen | ah ok, yes second .. |
| 19:06.48 | BabelO | and a small led green/red to see fix or sat number ? |
| 19:06.55 | BabelO | lol , i ask too much :) |
| 19:08.26 | kiozen | BabelO: that is planned , the info screen has place holders for 4 16x16px icons |
| 19:08.51 | BabelO | good, i hope soon |
| 19:09.35 | BabelO | i ve a poblem here, qtopia disconnect my gps because it think it is an headset :( |
| 19:10.36 | kiozen | qtopia assumes too much |
| 19:11.06 | kiozen | compared to qt I am not happy with it |
| 19:11.27 | kiozen | BabelO: new binary uploaded |
| 19:11.32 | BabelO | ok |
| 19:12.10 | BabelO | kiozen: i m very happy to be able to create maps myself :) i prefer your app |
| 19:13.09 | kiozen | thanks, that what I thought, too, and that's why I do not push the original QLandkarte any further |
| 19:13.41 | kiozen | trying to mimik Garmin is no fun on the long run |
| 19:14.22 | kiozen | and raster maps look so much nicer. |
| 19:14.39 | kiozen | as long as you do not need navigation they are to prefer |
| 19:15.14 | kiozen | would be fun to make an invisible oberlay with OSM data |
| 19:15.34 | kiozen | jus to do navigation on raster maps |
| 19:16.31 | BabelO | kiozen: perfect now :) |
| 19:17.07 | BabelO | kiozen: and my maps is well done with 3 points ;) |
| 19:17.35 | kiozen | as long as you do not have any non-linear distortions 3 points are perfect |
| 19:20.03 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, now i ll wait for next release ;) |
| 19:20.17 | kiozen | lol |
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| 19:20.37 | kiozen | depends on how much work I have during the week |
| 19:22.54 | BabelO | kiozen: http://www.silber2004.narod.ru/trevel.htm |
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| 19:24.34 | kiozen | BabelO: err, my russian is definetly worse than my french |
| 19:24.34 | kiozen | in fact it's non existence |
| 19:24.37 | BabelO | kiozen: lol, google translate works fine |
| 19:24.52 | kiozen | ok :) |
| 19:27.25 | kiozen | BabelO: ts, ts, ts, that is naughty software ;) |
| 19:27.36 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's nothing more than wget for gullible windows users. |
| 19:27.48 | kiozen | "For technical reasons, the spread of the programme temporarily suspended." lol |
| 19:28.42 | cr2_ | translation :"because it does not work anymore." |
| 19:28.56 | BabelO | kiozen: was using this one until you create your http://aeguerre.free.fr/Public/PocketPC/NoniGPSPlot/index.php |
| 19:29.43 | cr2_ | kiozen: there are other naughty programs you don't want to know about :) |
| 19:30.19 | kiozen | don't tell me, my ears get red! |
| 19:31.12 | cr2_ | :D |
| 19:31.30 | cr2_ | BabelO: what is the yahoo coverage in your area ? |
| 19:32.25 | BabelO | cr2_: do you have link ? |
| 19:32.37 | BabelO | i never use it |
| 19:33.25 | cr2_ | BabelO: i used it only in the osm edit window :) |
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| 19:36.08 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's as a good as not so evil company :) |
| 19:36.09 | BabelO | cr2_: eh eh stupid me, i ve already this map tools :) |
| 19:39.58 | BabelO | hmmm bad code, does not work in wine :( |
| 19:42.29 | cr2_ | BabelO: which one ? |
| 19:42.52 | BabelO | cr2_: googleMV |
| 19:43.35 | cr2_ | hehe. |
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| 20:10.44 | Marex | cr2_, hi |
| 20:10.52 | Marex | cr2_, would you mind commiting a palmtt5 for me ? |
| 20:11.06 | Marex | cr2_, I will prepare the patch soon, it will be quite big |
| 20:55.21 | BabelO | cr2_: does gt paste maps together ? i have 3 maps |
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| 20:56.54 | BabelO | cr2_: this app is sso so good ;) |
| 20:56.55 | cr2_ | BabelO: are they already referenced ? |
| 20:57.09 | BabelO | cr2_: yes it is ok i found, it is a multisel |
| 21:00.40 | BabelO | cr2_: what about your new gadget ? ;) |
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| 22:27.09 | Marex | cr2_, ping ;) |
| 22:37.59 | Marex | cr2_, really ... ping |
| 22:40.23 | CVirus | What is the most linux compatible HTC phone after the HTC Universal ? |
| 22:44.17 | univac | CVirus: maybe it will be beetles in nearest future ;p |
| 22:49.23 | dcordes_ | lol hh.org in OE broken again |
| 22:52.18 | dcordes_ | or rather still |
| 22:55.50 | Marex | yea, saw that too |
| 22:55.53 | Marex | not only hh |
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