| 00:00.00 | cr2_ | android-phone. |
| 00:00.28 | cr2_ | i think it is. |
| 00:01.07 | cr2_ | it seems that htc is out of engineering steam now. |
| 00:01.34 | cr2_ | the shift+vista was a patently stupid idea |
| 00:01.59 | cr2_ | and athena has included everything possible in a pxa270 phone. |
| 00:02.15 | dcordes | didn't shift sell? |
| 00:02.24 | cr2_ | $$$$ |
| 00:02.42 | cr2_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381915 |
| 00:04.03 | cr2_ | when it comes to an SD driver, i prefer to stick it to ati, not the androids. |
| 00:04.48 | cr2_ | dzo can do a lot by tracing the SD area |
| 00:05.18 | cr2_ | i'm wondering why we can't trace SD and MDP on kaiser |
| 00:05.54 | cr2_ | i just don't have time to look at these drivers once again. |
| 00:06.06 | cr2_ | finishing n560 is more important. |
| 00:06.13 | dcordes | I can always borrow you kaiser in case you'd like to fiddle around a bit |
| 00:06.28 | dcordes | but I gather you're still quite busy with hermes, right? |
| 00:06.40 | cr2_ | i'm busy with everything :) |
| 00:07.05 | cr2_ | i need to finish the n560, then i'd switch to ati SD. |
| 00:07.16 | cr2_ | i.e. hermes/trinity/athena |
| 00:07.26 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:09.27 | dcordes | cr2_, you think dzo will find a way out of the SD and mdp struggle with kaiser? |
| 00:10.16 | dcordes | (I wish I could do anything about it myself besides accomplishing commands ^^) |
| 00:14.50 | cr2_ | don't know. the best way is to analyse the bootloader. |
| 00:17.34 | dcordes | cr2_, we have dumps of it present don't we? |
| 00:18.41 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 00:18.53 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:18.56 | cr2_ | because there is a copy in ram |
| 00:19.24 | dcordes | odd |
| 00:19.35 | dcordes | (to me) |
| 00:19.40 | cr2_ | ok, it's too late now. |
| 00:19.43 | cr2_ | good night |
| 00:19.57 | dcordes | that's true. have to get up in 4 hours |
| 00:19.59 | dcordes | good night cr2_ |
| 01:32.35 | *** join/#htc-linux joschkop179 (n=joschi@92.226.197.14) |
| 04:26.38 | *** join/#htc-linux goxboxlive (n=goxboxli@195.159.97.196) |
| 05:19.07 | *** join/#htc-linux kiozen (n=kiozen@p5492A66F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:24.15 | *** join/#htc-linux SmallR2003 (n=SmallR20@79-77-49-138.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 05:57.22 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@unaffiliated/babelo) |
| 06:10.27 | *** join/#htc-linux rob_w|laptop (n=rob@p549B9644.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:18.44 | *** join/#htc-linux SmallR2002 (n=SmallR20@79-77-62-200.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#htc-linux Zoolooc (n=fredsiba@nrbg-4dbfe47a.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 06:44.35 | *** join/#htc-linux rmoravcik (n=rmoravci@gtsgw.ttc.cz) |
| 07:18.39 | *** join/#htc-linux noelcragg (n=noel@adsl-64-175-45-13.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 07:19.16 | *** part/#htc-linux noelcragg (n=noel@adsl-64-175-45-13.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 07:20.44 | *** join/#htc-linux Marex (n=marex@vasut.kolej.mff.cuni.cz) |
| 07:41.23 | kiozen | cr2_: I had a look at M's memory usage |
| 07:41.30 | kiozen | cr2_: see http://www.qlandkarte.org/QLandkarteM_mem.pdf |
| 07:41.39 | kiozen | cr2_: and http://www.qlandkarte.org/QLandkarteM_mem.txt |
| 07:41.53 | kiozen | it's not that bad, most is libtiff :) |
| 07:43.19 | *** join/#htc-linux lpotter (n=ljp@c210-49-127-23.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 07:48.19 | *** join/#htc-linux lpotter (n=ljp@c210-49-127-23.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 08:30.49 | cr2_ | kiozen: hi. is it just the call statistics ? is it possible to create an allocation map ? |
| 08:31.49 | kiozen | cr2_: that should be the memory usage over time |
| 08:33.32 | cr2_ | if somebody allocated 4K and freed it 1000 times, it's not a problem. |
| 08:34.30 | cr2_ | i'm more interested which functions allocated 28MB ram while displaying only some tiles. |
| 08:36.58 | kiozen | cr2_: http://valgrind.org/info/tools.html#massif |
| 08:37.17 | kiozen | it has been the massif test, I would say it does waht you want |
| 08:37.37 | cr2_ | it seems that some more careful approach to the included layers in GT is needed. and/or to create overviews. |
| 08:37.46 | cr2_ | ok, i'll try it. |
| 08:39.30 | kiozen | cr2_: btw, did you read the log about GSOD? |
| 08:45.19 | cr2_ | yes, i was away for a whole day. i'll test it today. |
| 08:47.21 | kiozen | cr2_: that bug was really stupid :) I totally forgot that I changed the softkeys to emit real key events like the hw keys. |
| 08:48.47 | kiozen | by that the top right soft key emitted a Key_back event as the hw button. |
| 08:49.20 | kiozen | and that will tell the qtopia framework, to close/background the app |
| 08:50.10 | cr2_ | hehe :) |
| 08:50.59 | kiozen | Somehow yesterday morning my brain got a reset and started to remember again :) |
| 08:51.14 | cr2_ | the LCD screwup happens because -qws powercycles the LCD. i don't think it's a very smart idea in general, but that's how it is. |
| 08:51.29 | kiozen | maybe the coffeen level was raised above a certain level :P |
| 08:52.11 | cr2_ | the GSOD pushed me to do more LCD research, that it was good for the cause :) |
| 08:52.21 | kiozen | lol |
| 08:52.56 | kiozen | but that softkey back business will be still a problem in future. |
| 08:53.29 | kiozen | as I do not use qpe, I can code the hw keys to F1..F4 and use them as intended |
| 08:53.52 | cr2_ | yes |
| 08:53.53 | kiozen | but for qpe the layout is fixed, and the top right button is Key_back |
| 08:54.43 | kiozen | thus the complete 4 key usage pattern of M has to be tweaked to something different |
| 08:55.03 | kiozen | the idea is to use a menu on the top left button |
| 08:55.22 | kiozen | but I guess that has to be done by someone using M with qpe |
| 08:55.36 | kiozen | to make it user friendly |
| 08:57.45 | CVirus | When people tried to get Linux to run on any mobile device .. for instance the HTC-Universal ... did they have to reverse engineer all it's existing hardware and write drivers for it or what ? |
| 09:00.57 | kiozen | CVirus: more ore less, yes |
| 09:01.32 | kiozen | as these systems aren't as well defined as a common PC achitecture |
| 09:01.42 | *** join/#htc-linux hlbot506 (n=adm@iclem.net) |
| 09:02.02 | kiozen | however there aren't too many different components |
| 09:02.21 | kiozen | by that different devices can share results |
| 09:02.43 | CVirus | I see |
| 09:02.57 | CVirus | I wonder why not the same happens for nokia and SE devices |
| 09:02.57 | CVirus | ? |
| 09:03.45 | kiozen | because cr2_ et al know most about pxa27x architecture :P |
| 09:04.37 | kiozen | in fact the n800 by nokia is supported |
| 09:04.47 | CVirus | I'm talking about the other nokia phones |
| 09:04.51 | CVirus | not the internet tablets |
| 09:06.26 | kiozen | well, i don't know either what nokia builts into it's devices, I am sure cr2_, BabelO or goxboxlive can tell |
| 09:28.33 | cr2_ | CVirus: because the sa11x0/pxa cpus are general-purpose, and have excellent documentation. |
| 09:31.14 | cr2_ | CVirus: nokia/SE use some obscure cpus and other components. we have most problems with omap850 and msm7x00 phones, because they are in the same league. |
| 09:32.48 | CVirus | cr2_: but it's not impossible to see Linux running on a nokia 6600 ... right ? |
| 09:37.15 | cr2_ | do you know the cpu used there ? what other hardware components are used ? |
| 09:38.01 | CVirus | nope |
| 09:38.05 | CVirus | why can't we know ? |
| 09:44.01 | kiozen | CVirus: because companies think it's there interlectual property and of no ones other concern |
| 09:44.13 | kiozen | s/there/their/ |
| 09:49.02 | cr2_ | CVirus: it's the same problem as with the iphone |
| 09:50.47 | cr2_ | CVirus: unlike the htc devices, which are rather consistent in hardware and use an easily hackable/debuggable os (wince) |
| 10:02.47 | CVirus | I see |
| 10:24.28 | *** join/#htc-linux patoche (n=root@lns-bzn-33-82-252-3-194.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 10:26.31 | *** join/#htc-linux ecze (n=ecze@eczema.ecze.com) |
| 10:35.22 | BabelO | hi |
| 10:48.21 | *** join/#htc-linux disturbedsaint (n=IBM@84-105-33-111.cable.quicknet.nl) |
| 10:54.45 | *** join/#htc-linux SmallR2002 (n=SmallR20@79-77-62-216.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 11:02.28 | *** join/#htc-linux dcordes (n=snoopdog@unaffiliated/dcordes) |
| 11:08.25 | *** join/#htc-linux Marex (n=marex@vasut.kolej.mff.cuni.cz) |
| 11:51.52 | *** join/#htc-linux skodde (n=skodde@unaffiliated/skodde) |
| 12:36.26 | kiozen | cr2_: is there a limit of how many satellites can be seen at a time? (there must be one, 12?) |
| 12:50.49 | cr2_ | right now there are 12 |
| 12:52.38 | kiozen | ok |
| 12:57.34 | *** join/#htc-linux raph_ael (i=raphael@kikoolol.orbus.fr) |
| 13:54.25 | Marex | cr2_, I managed to make a phone call from htc beetles :p |
| 13:55.53 | BabelO | Marex: hello :) good news |
| 13:56.05 | Marex | hi BabelO, yup |
| 13:56.40 | Marex | for now it was just dialing a number and the phone on the other side started ringing, but it's nearly done this way :) |
| 13:56.45 | BabelO | Marex: your phone is CDMA ? |
| 13:56.50 | Marex | nah, GSM |
| 13:56.59 | BabelO | ah, line discipline ? |
| 13:57.00 | Marex | we have no CDMA here at all |
| 13:57.04 | Marex | BabelO, yup |
| 13:57.20 | Marex | I wrote n_erhtc.c as cr2_ suggested |
| 13:57.22 | BabelO | Marex: you use n_tihtc module ? |
| 13:57.25 | BabelO | ah ok |
| 13:57.32 | Marex | nah, I have ericsson chip |
| 13:57.39 | BabelO | ok i understand |
| 13:57.53 | BabelO | Marex: there is a plugin in qtopia to manage ericsson gsm |
| 13:58.16 | Marex | ah really ? |
| 13:58.20 | Marex | I will check it out |
| 13:58.32 | BabelO | Marex: yes wait i look on my hardrive |
| 13:59.19 | Marex | I will download the qtp sources |
| 13:59.39 | BabelO | hmm wait i only see the wavecomm sources |
| 14:00.50 | Marex | ah ok, thanks |
| 14:01.43 | BabelO | Marex: ok found :) |
| 14:02.32 | Marex | BabelO, ok |
| 14:02.47 | BabelO | it is not the demux plugin but can help you http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=tree;f=src/plugins/phonevendors/ericsson;h=e5601fdabac25073dfdc53dbbd06b9d2df564b87;hb=4.3.2-snapshot |
| 14:04.15 | BabelO | i rememeber ericsson at command now, all with * as prefix |
| 14:04.16 | *** join/#htc-linux rob_w (n=bob@Mac37.m.pppool.de) |
| 14:05.06 | Marex | BabelO, that's probably different |
| 14:05.30 | Marex | I have something like 0x02|size size|type type|data........|crc16 crc16 |
| 14:05.51 | Marex | 0x00 0x81 is data type for AT channel |
| 14:07.02 | BabelO | ok |
| 14:07.12 | BabelO | do you found the other channels ? |
| 14:07.13 | Marex | thanks anyway :) |
| 14:07.30 | Marex | 0x00 0x00 is configuration or something, it's used to init the GSM with three commands |
| 14:16.43 | BabelO | Marex: no gprs or edge channel ? |
| 14:17.00 | Marex | havent tried yet |
| 14:17.10 | Marex | btw it doesnt support edge |
| 14:17.33 | cr2_ | Marex: great news :) |
| 14:18.34 | cr2_ | Marex: the purpose of n_erhtc.c is to have the same user api as n_tihtc, so we can use the same userspace software |
| 14:18.57 | Marex | cr2_, right |
| 14:19.03 | cr2_ | BabelO: i think the tt ericsson code has very little in common with sable/beetles |
| 14:19.06 | Marex | I still have to tweak it a bit though |
| 14:19.23 | Marex | gsmd doesnt like it :S |
| 14:19.36 | cr2_ | Marex: so you'd be able to use the BabelO's image for ba. |
| 14:19.54 | cr2_ | gsmd has a lot of weird things hardcoded. |
| 14:20.11 | Marex | Im building my own |
| 14:20.30 | cr2_ | gsmd is a too broad name for the current state. |
| 14:20.47 | Marex | hehe :) |
| 14:20.53 | Marex | I guess I will add new plugin :) |
| 14:39.46 | kiozen | cr2_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilution_of_precision_(GPS) |
| 14:40.07 | kiozen | any idea how to visualize that kind of information to the user |
| 14:50.33 | BabelO | kiozen: draw a precision circle , visualgpsxp as something to display dop if i remember |
| 14:51.27 | kiozen | BabelO: but how to calulate it? DOP is a quality value with no physical unit |
| 14:52.19 | BabelO | kiozen: that is a good question, i see it on most wince woftware i use |
| 14:53.30 | kiozen | BabelO: yes garmin has it too, but I wonder how I should get this info from NMEA, mybe they do sirf binary |
| 14:55.23 | kiozen | http://www.developerfusion.co.uk/show/4652/3/ |
| 14:55.30 | kiozen | Accuracy of GPS Device * DOP = Maximum Allowable Error |
| 14:55.46 | kiozen | hm, that reads more like voodoo science |
| 15:09.32 | *** join/#htc-linux patoche (n=root@lns-bzn-61-82-250-93-234.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 15:09.53 | cr2_ | kiozen: DOP is a pure geometry thing |
| 15:10.21 | cr2_ | i think there are some hints in the gpsd source docs |
| 15:10.37 | cr2_ | anyway, it has very little with the "real" DOP |
| 15:11.00 | kiozen | cr2_: but it's the only value we have and people love it :) |
| 15:27.05 | kiozen | ok, gpsd just uses bullshit values, it it does not get the real information |
| 15:33.44 | kiozen | cr2_: new binary on server, a bit more gps fun |
| 15:33.53 | cr2_ | ok |
| 15:33.59 | BabelO | kiozen: wehre where ? ;) |
| 15:34.10 | cr2_ | kiozen: we can implement the math, if you want. |
| 15:34.33 | cr2_ | but it needs some raw gps data transmitted only in sirf binary. |
| 15:34.41 | kiozen | BabelO: http://www.qlandkarte.org/QLandkarteM |
| 15:34.59 | kiozen | cr2_: the math isn't the real problem currently, |
| 15:35.24 | kiozen | cr2_: it's just missing data |
| 15:35.29 | BabelO | kiozen: thx |
| 15:35.32 | cr2_ | kiozen: it's needed for the survey plugin too :) |
| 15:35.35 | *** join/#htc-linux Marex (n=marex@vasut.kolej.mff.cuni.cz) |
| 15:35.37 | cr2_ | kiozen: in NMEA ? |
| 15:36.06 | cr2_ | kiozen: it's actually mentioned in your link |
| 15:36.07 | kiozen | cr2_: yes my current device only transmittes the HDOP and VDOP value |
| 15:36.09 | cr2_ | The DOP factors are functions of the diagonal elements of the covariance matrix of the parameters, expressed either in a global or a local geodetic frame. |
| 15:36.30 | cr2_ | either you will calculate all of them, or nothing. |
| 15:37.14 | cr2_ | i don't know why they do it wrong for nmea output. |
| 15:37.17 | cr2_ | very often. |
| 15:37.37 | kiozen | cr2_: the sirf chip should have the real precision in meter |
| 15:37.48 | cr2_ | not really |
| 15:37.56 | kiozen | cr2_: thus sirf binary may be a good idea |
| 15:38.13 | cr2_ | i have 20minutes (1170 seconds) of raw ECEF XYZ data logged by sirfmon |
| 15:39.16 | cr2_ | so i got some data on the accuracy. |
| 15:40.03 | cr2_ | maybe i really need to look at the gpstk source. |
| 15:40.11 | kiozen | ok, I will get back to you if I do a sirf binary implementation :) |
| 15:40.34 | kiozen | for now I will take HDOP simply by 2 |
| 15:40.51 | cr2_ | i'm actually working with implementing similar math algorithms |
| 15:41.32 | cr2_ | just take the old sirfmon source. |
| 15:41.45 | cr2_ | and look at the sirf binary docs |
| 15:42.08 | kiozen | ok, thus we will get a nice module from you? :) |
| 15:43.29 | cr2_ | i want to do a survey module for M, yes. |
| 15:43.41 | cr2_ | with docs and nice pictures. |
| 15:44.29 | cr2_ | since you dislike qwt, you'd tell me what is a better option :) |
| 15:45.18 | kiozen | I always use my own implentation. it's in qlandkarte source code :) |
| 15:45.47 | cr2_ | ok, i'll have a look. |
| 15:45.51 | cr2_ | i like wget |
| 15:46.02 | kiozen | guess I will port it to M anyway |
| 15:46.03 | cr2_ | it handles the M versioning very well |
| 15:46.26 | cr2_ | ok, i'll take care of the math and the docs |
| 15:46.44 | kiozen | hehe, right no version numbers. |
| 15:47.00 | cr2_ | we will squeeze every last bit of it. |
| 15:47.12 | kiozen | in M? |
| 15:47.21 | kiozen | ah ok from sirf |
| 15:48.08 | kiozen | have a look at IGps.cpp and CNMEA.cpp in M's source code |
| 15:48.41 | kiozen | every device based on the IGps interface will fit nicely into M |
| 15:48.50 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 15:49.01 | kiozen | that is the nice part of C++ |
| 15:49.10 | cr2_ | yes |
| 15:49.32 | kiozen | reinterpret_cast is the bad |
| 15:49.41 | kiozen | and dynamic_cast is cool :) |
| 15:50.07 | cr2_ | i'm not really happy with the sirf3 in n560 |
| 15:50.47 | cr2_ | it is simply not good without an external antenna |
| 15:51.22 | kiozen | right, it's really a pitty |
| 15:51.34 | kiozen | we should sue FSC :D |
| 15:52.30 | cr2_ | yeah. |
| 15:52.46 | cr2_ | small, light and thin has its price. |
| 16:00.51 | *** join/#htc-linux Zoolooc (n=fredsiba@nrbg-4dbfe47a.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 16:10.45 | BabelO | sdptool add --channel 1 SP |
| 16:10.55 | BabelO | rfcomm listen /dev/rfcomm0 1 |
| 16:10.58 | BabelO | oups |
| 16:11.03 | BabelO | sorry |
| 16:11.22 | cr2_ | hehe. compiled and started the kernel with 2MB offset |
| 16:11.41 | cr2_ | the LCD goes all white... |
| 16:12.21 | cr2_ | oh. i know what's wrong. |
| 16:12.55 | *** join/#htc-linux patoche (n=root@lns-bzn-61-82-250-93-234.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 16:15.39 | cr2_ | hmm. did not really help. |
| 16:29.50 | cr2_ | BabelO: what is the #warning directive syntax ? |
| 16:30.13 | cr2_ | i'd like to print the PHYS_OFFSET value |
| 16:30.42 | BabelO | cr2_: don't know |
| 16:31.54 | cr2_ | ok |
| 16:57.22 | *** join/#htc-linux tsdogs (n=tsdogs@net-84-18-144-39.c.bkom.it) |
| 16:58.26 | BabelO | ok i just found how to export my artemis gps, i ve to try now |
| 17:17.41 | *** join/#htc-linux dcordes (n=snoopdog@unaffiliated/dcordes) |
| 17:18.10 | cr2_ | kiozen: GSOD is still there |
| 17:21.26 | cr2_ | pressing 'exit' creates the green screen. |
| 17:55.25 | *** join/#htc-linux TimRiker (n=timr@68.27.116.177) |
| 17:56.05 | *** join/#htc-linux kiozen (n=kiozen@rgnb-4db1d9f0.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 18:00.56 | *** join/#htc-linux rob_w (n=bob@Mac37.m.pppool.de) |
| 18:03.36 | *** join/#htc-linux JohnnyK (n=johnnyk@area1-33-gw.hkfree.org) |
| 18:07.14 | *** join/#htc-linux dark_reaper (n=dark_rea@80.104.113.91) |
| 18:09.15 | kiozen | BabelO: does M work for you? |
| 18:09.49 | BabelO | kiozen: did not try, was trying to create an incomming serial port on my ba ( bluetooth) |
| 18:10.02 | kiozen | ok :) |
| 18:10.03 | BabelO | now it works, i can share my artemis gps |
| 18:10.15 | tsdogs | kiozen: I have tryed it yesterday evening. |
| 18:10.26 | kiozen | tsdogs: did it work? |
| 18:10.34 | tsdogs | beside the fact that probably I did something wrong with the maps :( |
| 18:10.46 | tsdogs | I get an IMap() and ~IMap() |
| 18:11.03 | tsdogs | it worked on x86_64 qvfb. |
| 18:11.14 | kiozen | that is not too bad, do you have a map of your area? |
| 18:11.36 | tsdogs | kiozen: I know u don't like qpe, but when run inside qtopia the dialogs don't get displayed :) |
| 18:12.08 | kiozen | they are transparent, I know, don't have a clue why, qpe is a miracle to me :) |
| 18:12.11 | tsdogs | kiozen: I have a geotiff I created from google maps with gdal. |
| 18:12.19 | tsdogs | kiozen: ok |
| 18:12.51 | tsdogs | so I created the qmap file with qlandkarteM and I can see the map. |
| 18:13.08 | tsdogs | s/M/GT |
| 18:13.25 | tsdogs | thenn launched M, but no map visible. |
| 18:13.50 | kiozen | yes you have to select it first, but for that you have to see the dialog :) |
| 18:14.11 | tsdogs | kiozen: I tryed also with -qws, and selected it. |
| 18:14.32 | tsdogs | though I only get a debug IMap() ~IMap() that's all |
| 18:15.15 | kiozen | well that is the destruction of the dummy map object and the creation of the real one. that is ok |
| 18:16.00 | kiozen | most likely your view port is not in the map area |
| 18:16.09 | tsdogs | ok, but I seem to not be able to select it. |
| 18:16.36 | tsdogs | ho btw, if GT does not find the associated tif when launched it crashes |
| 18:16.50 | tsdogs | kiozen: view port? |
| 18:17.02 | kiozen | oh, still? I thought I found all bugs on that |
| 18:17.20 | kiozen | viewport == area of your screen |
| 18:17.30 | tsdogs | no if u open the file which is in svn (but tif are not) it will crash |
| 18:17.39 | tsdogs | hmm ok |
| 18:18.34 | tsdogs | kiozen: private message, that's the file I used as example... |
| 18:18.43 | kiozen | ok i try it |
| 18:21.11 | tsdogs | btw is it a smart idea to use the relative paths in the qmap file? moving it around will make it unusable... (though also moving tif files :) |
| 18:21.17 | tsdogs | ? |
| 18:21.19 | BabelO | kiozen: i still can't build gdal for arm, can you provide me your pkg ? ;) |
| 18:22.06 | kiozen | tsdogs: yes by that you can move the files, you couldn't do if they are absolute |
| 18:22.24 | kiozen | BabelO: what do I have to do to make a pkg? |
| 18:22.53 | BabelO | kiozen: gdal is needed for QLankarteM ? right ? |
| 18:23.11 | tsdogs | ok only if they are in the same folder, now I get it |
| 18:23.12 | kiozen | BabelO: yes definetly |
| 18:23.29 | kiozen | tsdogs: or you have to move the subfolder, too |
| 18:24.05 | tsdogs | ok but I had them in completley separate folders :) like ../../../geotiff/file.tif |
| 18:24.12 | tsdogs | not smart ok :) |
| 18:24.40 | tsdogs | BabelO: isn't there ipk from angstrom? |
| 18:25.39 | BabelO | tsdogs: into feed ? i ll try |
| 18:28.25 | BabelO | tsdogs: not into feed :( i use opkg |
| 18:28.44 | kiozen | BabelO: no problem I can do it if I know how :) |
| 18:29.34 | BabelO | kiozen: just tgz me so files ;) that is enough |
| 18:30.03 | kiozen | ack... |
| 18:32.41 | tsdogs | kiozen: I get strange info for the map (?) |
| 18:34.13 | kiozen | tsdogs: strange infos? |
| 18:34.32 | tsdogs | testmap.qmap |
| 18:34.39 | tsdogs | topleft: |
| 18:34.48 | tsdogs | Area: -x- |
| 18:34.49 | kiozen | BabelO: http://www.qlandkarte.org/gdal.1.4.2.tar.gz |
| 18:35.06 | tsdogs | At least yesterday I had info on it... |
| 18:35.10 | cr2_ | kiozen: i'm back from driving around with M |
| 18:35.14 | cr2_ | hi tsdogs |
| 18:35.20 | tsdogs | hi cr2_ |
| 18:35.41 | cr2_ | tsdogs: maybe it's time to drive around with roadmap :) |
| 18:36.07 | tsdogs | cr2_: lol, actually I never tryed beside going out on the balcony :) |
| 18:36.18 | tsdogs | I need a good area map though . |
| 18:37.08 | kiozen | tsdogs: http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot.png |
| 18:37.15 | kiozen | that is how it should look like |
| 18:38.10 | kiozen | and that should be the output on console http://pastebin.ca/971403 |
| 18:38.16 | tsdogs | kiozen looked like this yesterday, but with this new qmap it's wrong ... |
| 18:38.28 | cr2_ | kiozen: i have some questions |
| 18:38.45 | kiozen | ok |
| 18:39.19 | BabelO | cool , aplpciation started ;) |
| 18:39.22 | BabelO | now need a map :) |
| 18:39.38 | tsdogs | kiozen ok still this stupid relative paths. not it works :) |
| 18:39.44 | cr2_ | the 240pixels (480/2) is too little for the coordinate popup, so it's clipped |
| 18:39.51 | BabelO | kiozen: you have to learn me how to do this transparent windows :) |
| 18:40.13 | kiozen | BabelO: and you tell me how to fill them :P |
| 18:40.41 | BabelO | lol |
| 18:40.58 | kiozen | cr2_: you talk about the blue area on top? |
| 18:41.21 | tsdogs | kiozen: crashed :( |
| 18:41.29 | cr2_ | kiozen: blue ? |
| 18:41.39 | kiozen | cr2_: baby blue |
| 18:41.54 | kiozen | tsdogs that is bad, what did you do? |
| 18:41.57 | cr2_ | light greyish blue |
| 18:42.10 | tsdogs | just moving around... |
| 18:42.16 | tsdogs | and I got this message: |
| 18:42.26 | tsdogs | Instructed to quit by Virtual Keyboard |
| 18:42.47 | kiozen | did you press the back key? |
| 18:43.22 | tsdogs | kiozen: nope, and not it did it again |
| 18:43.57 | cr2_ | kiozen: the moving map didn't work for me. |
| 18:44.18 | kiozen | cr2_: slippy or moving? |
| 18:44.58 | cr2_ | kiozen: i got the coordinates, have seen the blue sat & so on. but no moving map. it just stayed at the original position |
| 18:45.14 | kiozen | didn't the red cursor move? |
| 18:45.18 | BabelO | kiozen: where is the serial port config ? |
| 18:45.28 | cr2_ | btw, the blue sat columns are shown even if there is no fix. |
| 18:45.40 | cr2_ | red cursor ? wtf is that ? |
| 18:45.45 | kiozen | BabelO: not yet implemented, it's /dev/gps and 9600baud |
| 18:45.56 | cr2_ | only the fix coord font was redish. |
| 18:46.23 | cr2_ | BabelO: you'd run gpsd and switch it to nmea and 9600 speed |
| 18:46.29 | kiozen | cr2_: you have to press "gps mode" to lock user and gps cursor |
| 18:46.47 | cr2_ | hmm. ok. |
| 18:46.52 | BabelO | hmm :( |
| 18:47.00 | kiozen | there is a red gps cursor and black user cursor |
| 18:47.01 | cr2_ | but it's too late now :) |
| 18:47.22 | kiozen | once you move the user cursor, the moving map is disabled until |
| 18:47.29 | kiozen | you switch it back to gps mode |
| 18:47.49 | cr2_ | kiozen: if you don't want to use qpe, you'd have some widget at least for the battery status. |
| 18:48.00 | cr2_ | and for the backlight(s) |
| 18:48.27 | kiozen | cr2_: sure already planed for the baby blue grayish box |
| 18:48.33 | tsdogs | kiozen: http://www.pastebin.ca/971421 (program exited normally hmm...) |
| 18:48.34 | cr2_ | otherwise i had no idea of battery status and was driving with "standard" LCD brightness. |
| 18:49.15 | BabelO | kiozen: have you already added support for uploaded maps ? |
| 18:49.21 | kiozen | tsdogs: something must trigger the Key_back event |
| 18:49.24 | BabelO | i just compile gt and see the menu |
| 18:49.44 | kiozen | BabelO: not yet, you have to dump them in /home/root for now |
| 18:49.59 | tsdogs | kiozen: yes probably. But I only used the mouse, not using your skin though, maybe that's why |
| 18:50.42 | kiozen | the top right virtual button will emit Key_Back event, too |
| 18:50.56 | BabelO | kiozen: i like your gt interface :) |
| 18:51.29 | kiozen | there are only to kind of users, those who hate it and those who love it :) |
| 18:51.39 | tsdogs | lol |
| 18:51.45 | tsdogs | time to go. bbl |
| 18:51.48 | cr2_ | BabelO: it can do better screen area management |
| 18:51.49 | kiozen | bbl |
| 18:52.22 | cr2_ | 15% for the georef area is too little |
| 18:53.07 | cr2_ | kiozen: btw, the GSOD is intermittant, it's some qws artefact. |
| 18:53.17 | kiozen | I thought about splitting the 1, 2, 3 stuff into a tabed widget |
| 18:53.49 | cr2_ | i've offset the n560 kernel by 2MB, and now get the WSOD :) |
| 18:53.54 | kiozen | cr2_: you don't get GSODs if you handle the keys in a sane way ;) |
| 18:54.03 | kiozen | lol |
| 18:54.07 | cr2_ | everything seems to be done right... |
| 18:54.43 | cr2_ | kiozen: i get GSOD on double-clicking the 'exit' right button |
| 18:55.03 | cr2_ | but it goes away in 1 sec, and the getty appears. |
| 18:55.15 | cr2_ | i've disabled the LCD powerdown gpios for now. |
| 18:55.33 | kiozen | cr2_: hm, double click is still not intercepted |
| 18:55.34 | cr2_ | so the LCD spi data stays intact. |
| 18:56.37 | kiozen | ok |
| 18:57.15 | cr2_ | otherwise everything looks very promising. |
| 18:57.34 | kiozen | cr2_: guess I have to do several infoscreens for the different resolutions |
| 18:57.53 | kiozen | there is no way to find a good common designe for 480/240/... |
| 18:58.00 | BabelO | kiozen: from where can i extrack nice tiff file ? ;) |
| 18:58.16 | cr2_ | BabelO: you obviously start google earth, set 4 GCPs, do a screenshot, and import it into GT :D |
| 18:58.49 | cr2_ | kiozen: i may try your image on sable. 240x240 LCD |
| 18:58.55 | kiozen | BabelO: or you enable OSM download |
| 18:58.58 | kiozen | in GT |
| 19:00.35 | BabelO | kiozen: how ? |
| 19:00.47 | cr2_ | BabelO: you need a 8bit image btw. |
| 19:00.52 | BabelO | i like cr2_ solution too :) |
| 19:01.17 | BabelO | cr2_: what do yuo mena by GCP ? |
| 19:01.43 | cr2_ | convert foo.XXX foo.gif, or convert -depth 8 -colors 255 +dither |
| 19:01.55 | cr2_ | a point with known coordinates |
| 19:02.05 | cr2_ | Ground Calibration Point |
| 19:02.57 | kiozen | BabelO: CMapEditWidget::CMapEditWidget() uncomment the three lines |
| 19:03.31 | cr2_ | kiozen: is the OSM tiles path configurable ? |
| 19:03.58 | kiozen | not the way you like to have it ;) |
| 19:04.34 | cr2_ | in merkaartor i use the ouput of my tile generator :) the osm people will burn me if they'd have known :) |
| 19:05.05 | cr2_ | but i know what i'm doing. so it's the right thing(tm). |
| 19:06.06 | kiozen | 240x240 output looks really bad |
| 19:07.31 | *** join/#htc-linux dcordes (n=snoopdog@unaffiliated/dcordes) |
| 19:12.28 | kiozen | cr2_: ok, for now I will concentrate on the 480x640 display. For smaller ones we have to tweak quite some stuff. |
| 19:15.47 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 19:16.13 | cr2_ | but the coordinates are clipped even on the vga screen |
| 19:16.59 | kiozen | do you have 135x135 dpi ? |
| 19:20.13 | cr2_ | i have the real dpi. |
| 19:20.13 | cr2_ | 122 if i'm not mistaken. |
| 19:20.52 | kiozen | ok then I have to change that for the emulator |
| 19:21.43 | *** join/#htc-linux SmallR2003 (n=SmallR20@79-77-81-119.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 19:24.49 | cr2_ | sqrt(480*480+640*640)/3.6 |
| 19:25.16 | cr2_ | oh. 222 |
| 19:25.44 | BabelO | ok i need my coordinate |
| 19:25.50 | cr2_ | lol |
| 19:26.12 | cr2_ | BabelO: you GE |
| 19:26.20 | cr2_ | s/you/use/ |
| 19:26.35 | cr2_ | +xwd |
| 19:28.09 | BabelO | cr2_: we need a tool to do that ;) |
| 19:28.45 | cr2_ | BabelO: you are a pirate :) zero respect for intellectual property :) |
| 19:29.04 | BabelO | cr2_: why you say that ? |
| 19:29.17 | cr2_ | LOL |
| 19:29.33 | cr2_ | i've drunk too much :D |
| 19:29.56 | BabelO | lol |
| 19:31.10 | cr2_ | BabelO: there are(were) such tools |
| 19:31.32 | BabelO | cr2_: how can i convert this coordinate ? 43.646759,4.041252 to one needed for qlandkarte |
| 19:32.06 | cr2_ | why do you need it ? |
| 19:33.39 | BabelO | cr2_: i look at coordinate with google maps to get top left and bottom right |
| 19:34.21 | cr2_ | you need at least 2 points with known coordinates on a map. |
| 19:34.37 | cr2_ | if it's google then the projection is known. |
| 19:34.56 | kiozen | cr2_: think BabelO wants to use GT / OSM |
| 19:35.13 | cr2_ | the "original" m/pix is also known, but i don't know if this ajax stuff rescales it. |
| 19:35.28 | kiozen | BabelO: you can use QLandkarte with the img I sent you |
| 19:35.29 | cr2_ | it's a good question , i need to check it. |
| 19:35.42 | cr2_ | ah, qlandkarte |
| 19:35.51 | cr2_ | not GT/M |
| 19:36.02 | kiozen | next you point with the cursor->right click and copy the location |
| 19:36.17 | kiozen | then you can copy it into GT |
| 19:36.22 | cr2_ | yes, that's a clever idea too. |
| 19:36.40 | cr2_ | i was doing GT->GT |
| 19:41.52 | kiozen | BabelO: Chateau Saint Auriol ou Domain Coudoulet? c'est le question! |
| 19:42.10 | BabelO | kiozen: LOL |
| 19:42.44 | kiozen | I could choose Tormaresca, too, and make tsdogs happy :) |
| 19:43.54 | BabelO | kiozen: i don't know those bottle |
| 19:44.26 | kiozen | the one (I oopened) is a Corbieres |
| 19:44.44 | BabelO | ah ah not so far from me ;) |
| 19:44.59 | kiozen | the other one has a too minimalistic label to know where it's from :) |
| 19:45.04 | *** part/#htc-linux TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 19:45.22 | BabelO | kiozen: what i need to do with osm then ? coordinate, i losst your img file |
| 19:45.25 | kiozen | and the italian is great stuff from the southern part |
| 19:46.01 | kiozen | you have to define to top left and bottom right corner in the OSM dialog of GT |
| 19:46.23 | kiozen | next a filename and some nice comment |
| 19:46.30 | kiozen | that's it. |
| 19:46.36 | kiozen | after a lengthy download |
| 19:46.51 | BabelO | kiozen: i understand, but what are they from here -> http://maps.google.fr/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.646759,4.041252&spn=0.167443,0.458679&t=h&z=12 |
| 19:46.53 | kiozen | you should have 3 tifs (zoom levels) and a qamp |
| 19:48.39 | kiozen | anything between: |
| 19:48.41 | kiozen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.44 | kiozen | and |
| 19:48.53 | kiozen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.06 | kiozen | you may like to choos a samller area |
| 19:49.12 | kiozen | to speed up downlaod |
| 19:52.26 | BabelO | kiozen: thx starting download |
| 19:52.36 | BabelO | osm is bad for my region |
| 19:52.56 | kiozen | yes, I have noticed |
| 19:53.16 | kiozen | wait until M can record tracks, and change it ;) |
| 19:53.44 | kiozen | adding baudrate selection to M |
| 19:53.49 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, else i ve todo like cr2 say |
| 19:54.12 | BabelO | kiozen: other question, how i see gps fix in M ? |
| 19:54.27 | kiozen | the cursor turns red |
| 19:54.46 | kiozen | the will be a 2D/3D icon in the futur, too |
| 19:56.56 | BabelO | ok, i ll try again |
| 19:57.04 | BabelO | whil e downloading 1839 tiles |
| 19:58.56 | kiozen | BabelO: the latest version even got a satellite snr view |
| 20:13.27 | kiozen | cr2_: new binary, can you check if coord value can be read now? |
| 20:28.39 | cr2_ | yes |
| 20:29.57 | kiozen | ok good to know :) |
| 20:31.46 | cr2_ | 770K/s on usb |
| 20:32.42 | *** join/#htc-linux diogene31_ (n=rj@mur31-2-82-243-122-54.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:33.13 | cr2_ | yes, now it's ok |
| 20:33.34 | cr2_ | kiozen: the altitude is over wgs84 ? |
| 20:34.17 | kiozen | AKAIK yes |
| 20:35.43 | cr2_ | pick the simple geoid correction from gpsd |
| 20:35.56 | cr2_ | i've written it, so it's not a problem :) |
| 20:36.36 | kiozen | there is a corrention value with NMEA |
| 20:38.05 | cr2_ | it's not always there. and not always right. |
| 20:38.24 | cr2_ | atfer all it's the same tabulated correction. |
| 20:39.15 | cr2_ | it was unpleasant to see Hamburg at -20m :) |
| 20:42.50 | kiozen | cr2_: it subtracting both values? |
| 20:43.35 | cr2_ | ? |
| 20:46.26 | kiozen | cr2_: http://pastebin.ca/971554 |
| 20:46.46 | kiozen | it's (9) - (11) right? |
| 20:48.30 | kiozen | but without (11) the elevation matches the official data better |
| 20:49.21 | cr2_ | 9=10+11 |
| 20:49.28 | cr2_ | or 9=10-11 |
| 20:49.39 | kiozen | huh ? |
| 20:49.55 | kiozen | (10) is the unit |
| 20:50.10 | BabelO | kiozen: ok i ve maps , all is ok now ;) |
| 20:50.26 | cr2_ | looking for a link |
| 20:50.50 | kiozen | 9 = Antenna Altitude above/below mean-sea-level (geoid) (in meters) |
| 20:51.03 | kiozen | I think that is what we want, don't we? |
| 20:52.06 | cr2_ | http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/gpsd/trunk/geoid.c?rev=4257&view=markup |
| 20:52.41 | cr2_ | ah, units. |
| 20:53.17 | cr2_ | so you think 9-11 is the wgs84 altitude ? |
| 20:54.15 | kiozen | don't know, to late for this :) |
| 20:54.17 | cr2_ | sirf binary is the only sane output. |
| 20:54.47 | kiozen | BabelO: did you compile M yourself, or did you use my binary? |
| 20:54.50 | cr2_ | that's why gpsd is capable of converting xyz itself. |
| 20:55.10 | BabelO | kiozen: i use your |
| 20:55.29 | kiozen | ok, I will upload a new one, you can setup the baud rate |
| 20:56.02 | cr2_ | kiozen: 'menu' at the left side made it difficult to operate M by one (right) hand in the car :) |
| 20:56.31 | kiozen | you just need longer fingers :P |
| 20:56.44 | cr2_ | kiozen: my copy says baud rate 4800 ? |
| 20:57.07 | kiozen | cr2_: not working with yours |
| 20:57.09 | cr2_ | or you have a newer version ? |
| 20:57.11 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:58.32 | cr2_ | kiozen: think about backlight(s) control. |
| 20:59.29 | kiozen | cr2_: yes when I get the device back, makes no sense to fiddle with hardware you do not have |
| 20:59.40 | kiozen | ok uploaded new binary |
| 21:00.13 | cr2_ | ok |
| 21:01.09 | kiozen | cr2_: can you read "gps mode" on the top right virtual button when using the user cursor? |
| 21:02.42 | cr2_ | i have exit there now ? |
| 21:03.17 | cr2_ | ah, ok |
| 21:03.33 | cr2_ | 'g' and 'e' are cut in half |
| 21:03.36 | kiozen | you have to move the cursor |
| 21:03.48 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 21:03.51 | kiozen | ok |
| 21:04.33 | kiozen | I change that to "gps" |
| 21:05.17 | kiozen | the "exit" thing is just for debugging |
| 21:06.22 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.45 | BabelO | hey kiozen i see satellites ;) |
| 21:06.51 | BabelO | 8 sat |
| 21:07.01 | kiozen | whatout that they don't hit you! |
| 21:07.11 | cr2_ | echo 46 > /sys/class/backlight/generic-bl/brightness |
| 21:07.36 | cr2_ | BabelO: tilfoil hat on ? |
| 21:07.40 | cr2_ | s/til/tin/ |
| 21:08.10 | cr2_ | i'm going to search for satellites too |
| 21:08.20 | BabelO | but i use 4800 not 9600 |
| 21:08.27 | BabelO | tinfoil ? |
| 21:08.46 | kiozen | for nuklear experiments? |
| 21:10.42 | BabelO | ok, now i need real maps :( |
| 21:11.12 | BabelO | it seem that qpe disconnect my gps automaticcaly because it look for bt headset |
| 21:12.43 | cr2_ | kiozen: n560 has really hard time to get a fix at this place |
| 21:13.06 | kiozen | BabelO: tinfoil: http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1139580,00.jpg |
| 21:13.13 | kiozen | cr2_: yes it sucks |
| 21:15.38 | cr2_ | kiozen: there must be an external antenna for it. |
| 21:15.58 | cr2_ | even my sd501 has an external antenna included. |
| 21:16.34 | BabelO | kiozen: ah ghost busters ;) |
| 21:16.36 | cr2_ | hmm. where is pH5 when one needs him. |
| 21:17.02 | kiozen | cr2_: sure there is one, FSC just choose the more expensive connector, |
| 21:17.04 | cr2_ | i could have checked sd501 on n560 with the 2.6.25 kernel. |
| 21:17.23 | kiozen | and it's not really nice to hike and have an external antenna |
| 21:17.48 | kiozen | BabelO: no that one is more "Back to the future" |
| 21:17.51 | cr2_ | yeah. |
| 21:18.23 | cr2_ | kiozen: btw, you'd have a widget for the CPU speed, and cpu voltage setting. |
| 21:18.31 | kiozen | but it's a nice example on how you should dress when using my software :P |
| 21:18.31 | cr2_ | heh. i need to put it into wiki. |
| 21:18.40 | cr2_ | LOL |
| 21:19.10 | kiozen | cr2_: don't thing I want to see that on the GUI, but in a log |
| 21:19.22 | kiozen | s/thing/think/ |
| 21:19.39 | BabelO | kiozen: there is a bug, sometimes i see gps mode menu |
| 21:19.47 | BabelO | and now screen is green :) |
| 21:20.55 | kiozen | qtopia has it's own problems to hide a dialog :) |
| 21:21.03 | cr2_ | BabelO: GSOD ? :) |
| 21:21.21 | BabelO | cr2_: green screen is when qlandkartem is down |
| 21:22.00 | cr2_ | BabelO: yes, i call it GSOD. |
| 21:22.09 | BabelO | ok ;) |
| 21:22.37 | BabelO | so it is not a bug if we ll see it on all devices ;) |
| 21:22.44 | cr2_ | kiozen: in the log ? |
| 21:22.55 | cr2_ | BabelO: yes, it's some weird -qws feature. |
| 21:23.17 | kiozen | cr2_: I would like to record this info as log |
| 21:23.47 | cr2_ | kiozen: ok, but you don't want the user to change it ? |
| 21:24.42 | kiozen | no, I want M to change it at it's need. |
| 21:25.07 | kiozen | see the kernel will power up the cpu on every tiny task |
| 21:25.18 | kiozen | but many things are not time critical |
| 21:25.39 | kiozen | thus it's sensless to power the cpu to 624Mhz |
| 21:25.52 | kiozen | but on some tasks it's important to do |
| 21:26.01 | kiozen | like moving the map |
| 21:26.16 | BabelO | kiozen: conservative governor do such |
| 21:26.20 | kiozen | in this case M will tell the cpu to power up |
| 21:26.35 | kiozen | of course only without qpe |
| 21:26.55 | kiozen | BabelO: if the kernel does it right I am happy :) |
| 21:27.18 | kiozen | but I doubt because it can't read my mind |
| 21:27.29 | cr2_ | kiozen: yes, the kernel does it. |
| 21:27.54 | BabelO | kiozen: i just have to export qmap file now |
| 21:28.10 | kiozen | BabelO: export ? |
| 21:28.32 | BabelO | kiozen: ok i select export then directory output for qmap file |
| 21:28.49 | *** join/#htc-linux Marex (n=marex@gwfm10-3-250.802.cz) |
| 21:29.19 | kiozen | ah in the OSM dialog |
| 21:29.48 | kiozen | hm not sure, haven't seen that dlg for a long time :) |
| 21:29.52 | BabelO | kiozen: i also generate the qlb file |
| 21:30.37 | kiozen | you don't need such a thing for M |
| 21:31.54 | cr2_ | kiozen: have you unpatched GT for OSM ? |
| 21:32.48 | kiozen | no, I removed OSM form my version, don't use it, don't like the dialog, haven't decided what to do with it :) |
| 21:33.28 | kiozen | hm, somthing is buggy if I switch to "No GPS" |
| 21:35.34 | BabelO | kiozen: ok now can i move on screen ? |
| 21:36.08 | kiozen | you need the cursor keys for that or you have to use the stylus |
| 21:38.53 | kiozen | cr2_: aren't satellite prn over 30 WAAS? |
| 21:39.03 | kiozen | EGNOS |
| 21:39.25 | cr2_ | yes |
| 21:39.37 | cr2_ | AOR-E and Artemis |
| 21:39.44 | kiozen | have to check with my garmin |
| 21:39.55 | cr2_ | garmin has funny numbers for them |
| 21:42.59 | kiozen | wow, 4 downloads of GT today, I get famous! |
| 21:43.33 | kiozen | oh only 3, 4 is the web hit number :/ |
| 21:45.23 | *** join/#htc-linux goxboxlive (n=goxboxli@208.84-48-176.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:45.56 | cr2_ | kiozen: i'm surprised somebody knows about it :) |
| 21:46.22 | kiozen | kde-apps :) |
| 21:48.04 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 21:48.17 | kiozen | it's my 3rd OS project ;) |
| 21:49.03 | cr2_ | you'd compile a wince version for M |
| 21:49.11 | cr2_ | then you'll be famous :) |
| 21:49.37 | cr2_ | i'm really curious how qt4.4 will perform on wince. |
| 21:49.37 | kiozen | hm, there are many other apps for wincem that are quite nice |
| 21:51.02 | cr2_ | yes, but they are 1. not free 2. i don't know any real survey app for wince. |
| 21:51.40 | kiozen | there is some free stuff like cachewolf |
| 21:52.16 | cr2_ | java ? |
| 21:52.23 | kiozen | funny my gps mouse receives more sats than my garmin |
| 21:52.46 | kiozen | yes java |
| 21:52.57 | cr2_ | different firmware |
| 21:53.46 | kiozen | except the annoying static nav the mouse is pretty good |
| 21:57.27 | kiozen | ok, enought for today, my son will not have any mercy in the morning :) |
| 21:57.31 | kiozen | good night |
| 22:17.21 | *** join/#htc-linux disturbedsaint (n=simon@84-105-33-111.cable.quicknet.nl) |
| 22:18.53 | disturbedsaint | Is there anybody here who has another e-mail address from Vivien from http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/ (or knows an IRC channel where he usually resides)? |
| 22:19.53 | BabelO | disturbedsaint: adress is written on link you provide :) |
| 22:20.00 | disturbedsaint | I kno |
| 22:20.02 | disturbedsaint | w |
| 22:20.09 | disturbedsaint | but he doesn't respond |
| 22:20.15 | disturbedsaint | at least within last week |
| 22:20.25 | disturbedsaint | that's why I am asking |
| 22:21.42 | BabelO | i see him on #git few days ago |
| 22:22.36 | disturbedsaint | OK |
| 22:22.42 | disturbedsaint | ill be on the lookout there |
| 22:22.44 | disturbedsaint | thx! |
| 22:25.00 | disturbedsaint | What nick does/did he use? |
| 22:37.14 | *** join/#htc-linux disturbedsaint (n=Saint_@84-105-33-111.cable.quicknet.nl) |
| 22:58.55 | *** join/#htc-linux TimRiker (n=timr@70-7-69-200.area7.spcsdns.net) |
| 23:08.40 | BabelO | cr2_: why i see two circle in M |
| 23:08.42 | BabelO | ? |
| 23:10.21 | cr2_ | two circle ? |
| 23:10.43 | BabelO | yes a red and a black |
| 23:13.20 | BabelO | but no fix, that is strange |
| 23:14.44 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 23:15.10 | BabelO | fix in tomtom is ok, i ll try again |
| 23:17.31 | BabelO | ok now it is ok |
| 23:20.21 | cr2_ | good night |
| 23:32.26 | BabelO | good night |
| 23:38.56 | *** join/#htc-linux Raven_coda (n=wtg@64.50.35.215) |
| 23:44.04 | *** join/#htc-linux LunohoD_ (n=alex@e180069220.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
