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| 05:45.11 | BabelO | hi |
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| 06:06.25 | BabelO | ola kiozen :) |
| 06:06.37 | BabelO | kiozen: did you see my email ? or the log ? |
| 06:06.46 | kiozen | bonjour BabelO |
| 06:06.52 | kiozen | yes, thanks |
| 06:07.02 | kiozen | it compiles now := |
| 06:07.58 | BabelO | kiozen: i just remember why i use qdsync common ;) |
| 06:10.06 | kiozen | btw does using this lib mean that I have to compile qtopia with atopasyncagent? |
| 06:10.51 | BabelO | no |
| 06:11.13 | BabelO | kiozen: this lib is used for bt and modem dislog |
| 06:12.01 | kiozen | ok, so qtopiacomm is just a part of the normal lib? no memory waisted? |
| 06:13.43 | BabelO | no, :) |
| 06:15.11 | BabelO | kiozen: connect can only done on QWidget ? not on QObject ? |
| 06:15.20 | BabelO | goind to office |
| 06:15.36 | kiozen | connect is part of qobject |
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| 06:34.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i think i understand why, y have a class with my own signal, i just remove variable name from signal and it is ok now |
| 06:35.16 | kiozen | the slot must support at least a subset of the signal's parameters |
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| 06:37.20 | kiozen | thus signal(int) -> slot() is ok |
| 06:37.36 | kiozen | signal(int) -> slot(mytype) not |
| 06:40.31 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no its was just due to signal(int toto) -> slot(int tata) |
| 06:41.04 | BabelO_ | i have to add the usb detection to qtopia homescreen |
| 06:41.29 | kiozen | ??? IMHO that should work |
| 06:42.00 | BabelO_ | kiozen: don't want to works like this |
| 06:42.40 | kiozen | maybe wrong signal doc? |
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| 06:42.57 | kiozen | ok it's your signal :) |
| 06:44.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes it is mine, i separate my class to manage storage detection ,creation and modprobe manage from the ui |
| 06:45.11 | BabelO_ | kiozen: want to ask you also, how you read standard ouput with QProcess ? do you use ReadAll() connected to signal readStandardOutput ? |
| 06:46.25 | BabelO_ | that is the only way i found, but not sure it is the quick way |
| 06:46.47 | kiozen | have to look .. |
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| 06:49.02 | kiozen_ | BabelO: that is how I do it in GT http://pastebin.ca/965808 |
| 06:53.38 | BabelO_ | kiozen : thx, i miss this one QString str = cmd.readAllStandardOutput(); |
| 06:53.42 | BabelO_ | better with that |
| 06:56.49 | BabelO_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:56.50 | BabelO_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen_: i use waitForStarted also |
| 06:59.01 | kiozen | GT idles until the process finished, thus I just connect to the finished() signal |
| 06:59.10 | BabelO_ | ok |
| 07:00.00 | kiozen | waitForStarted() is good if you start a daemon or server process |
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| 09:11.09 | cr2 | kiozen: Qt for Embedded Linux (formerly known as Qtopia Core). |
| 09:11.53 | kiozen | ??? huh |
| 09:15.38 | cr2 | http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/qt44-preview-download |
| 09:17.25 | cr2 | you may also check wince. the world domination is coming closer :) |
| 09:20.12 | kiozen | wasn't it called qtembedded befor they called it qtopia? |
| 09:21.48 | cr2 | yes. |
| 09:22.32 | cr2 | obviously, new masters think it's better this way. |
| 09:22.48 | zoolooc | nokia? |
| 09:25.12 | cr2 | hehe. blasphemy |
| 09:25.15 | cr2 | configure.exe |
| 09:25.36 | cr2 | as a binary. |
| 09:26.26 | cr2 | configure.exe: MS-DOS executable PE for MS Windows (console) Intel 80386 32-bit |
| 09:26.31 | cr2 | wtf ? |
| 09:30.28 | cr2 | A: You need Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition (or better) |
| 09:30.40 | cr2 | is wince-gcc better ? :) |
| 09:31.15 | cr2 | Q: Do you support Windows CE 6.0? |
| 09:31.15 | cr2 | A: Yes. Although there will not be a public SDK available by Microsoft |
| 09:31.36 | cr2 | is it an apple disease ? |
| 09:32.51 | kiozen | no just activisms |
| 09:35.12 | cr2 | it's a very interesting test for wince-g++ |
| 09:35.21 | cr2 | to compile qt4 |
| 09:37.20 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i can try to replace qtopiacore subdirectory by qt4.4 embedded , to see waht happen ;) |
| 09:39.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: wither blister burn and peel :) |
| 09:40.28 | cr2 | lol. |
| 09:40.35 | cr2 | wine configure.exe works |
| 09:41.12 | cr2 | Do compile with use of IWMMXT instructions |
| 09:41.19 | cr2 | isn't it pxa27x only ? |
| 09:41.48 | cr2 | + -cetest ............ Compile Windows CE remote test application |
| 09:42.55 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 09:42.58 | cr2 | Unable to detect the platform from environment. Use -platform command lineargument or set the QMAKESPEC environment variable and run configure again |
| 09:42.59 | cr2 | See the README file for a list of supported operating systems and compilers. |
| 09:51.51 | BabelO_ | kiozen: google not able to translate what you say, and i don't understand ;) , i m not full english compliant |
| 09:53.50 | kiozen | BabelO_: somthing like: "Do this (copy qt4.4 to 4.3) and you will burn in hell for eternity" :) |
| 09:54.20 | cr2 | Creating qmake... |
| 09:54.20 | cr2 | execute: File or path is not found (nmake) |
| 09:55.33 | cr2 | kiozen: is 4.4 binary incompatible with 4.3 ? |
| 09:56.54 | kiozen | cr2: don't know, probably not a 100% match, as usual. would be the first time you could exchange a lib that easy |
| 10:02.23 | BabelO_ | kiozen: replacement done ;) configuring now ;) |
| 10:02.40 | BabelO_ | hmm WARNING: Failure to find: ../WebKit/qt/Api/qwebnetworkinterface.cpp |
| 10:02.42 | kiozen | ok, duck and cover! |
| 10:13.59 | BabelO_ | hmm qmake failed n syncqtopia |
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| 12:21.10 | cr2 | i think it should be possible to modify Makefile.win32-g++ |
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| 12:26.19 | rakeem | I truly am an amateur, unable to learn from past mistakes, and the sought of person who's not cut out for this sort of thing... I should leave... Now where's the iPhone channel? |
| 12:42.15 | kiozen | does UTC have day light saving? |
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| 12:54.42 | kiozen | BabelO_: Do you have a NMEA protocol dump from your location? |
| 12:57.44 | kiozen | never mind, found one :) |
| 13:06.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i can get one now with visualgps |
| 13:06.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok good to know if I have to verify more stuff :) |
| 13:12.01 | cr2 | kiozen: UTC is universal time. such braindead things like DST do not apply there :) |
| 13:13.12 | kiozen | cr2: I know but I was puzzled for a second because of the 2h difference |
| 13:15.03 | cr2 | :) |
| 13:15.20 | cr2 | there is also a difference between the GPS time and UTC, btw. |
| 13:15.34 | cr2 | it's all in the gpsd source. |
| 13:15.54 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what do you need exactly ;), with visualgps and gps on my desk, i walk 1km around my desk, lol |
| 13:17.49 | kiozen | BabelO_: currently I am fine, thanks. |
| 13:20.55 | rakeem | The lesson is this: There's often a very good reason you can't buy a readymade cable with a particular combination of connectors on each end. Don't let a "novel" gender-bender seduce you, all bright colours and sluttish "just-plug-me-in" convenience. They are agaainst nature and the psychotic union of Vcc and Gnd is all these satanic Anti-Connectors cherish. |
| 13:31.18 | rakeem | I now have the cannibalised bottom half of a dead Uni functioning as a colostomy-charger for a previously healthy one. |
| 13:33.58 | kiozen | cr2: I would have a simple working version of M with GPS support |
| 13:41.19 | cr2 | kiozen: today ? |
| 13:41.27 | kiozen | now ? |
| 13:41.47 | kiozen | :) |
| 13:41.57 | cr2 | can't check it now. |
| 13:42.36 | kiozen | I'll put it on the server as I have no time tonight |
| 13:42.53 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:43.05 | rakeem | A spur of the moment attempt at USB-OTG has fried the power lines on my Uni's USB port I think... Connected to XP (either in CE or Bootloader) gives the Windows "Malfunctioning!" hysterics, but connected to Linux I also get USB errors, but when I boot to Linux they both immeditately jump into CDC_Ether mode... Any ideas for living with data-lines-only USB? |
| 13:44.11 | cr2 | ground and +5v are the remaining pins |
| 13:44.48 | cr2 | kiozen: send me a link, i'll check it in the evening. |
| 13:46.00 | cr2 | kiozen: i need to sort out the exact lcd bitbang details, and teach haret about the +2*N mb offset |
| 13:46.18 | cr2 | then n560 will be usable. |
| 13:47.27 | kiozen | cr2: ok |
| 13:49.36 | rakeem | What're youse working on? |
| 13:50.16 | kiozen | rakeem: GPS app for mobile devices |
| 13:50.27 | rakeem | Don't answer: Doh, forgot I could scroll up in Windows.... I'm usually in irssi... |
| 13:57.15 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.qlandkarte.org/QLandkarteM |
| 13:57.38 | kiozen | cr2: it will connect to /dev/gps with 4800 baud |
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| 13:58.44 | T0m4rn0ld | hello, what is the best linux image for the HTC Universal? Is Google Android available? |
| 14:00.31 | cr2 | kiozen: downloaded. i'll pick the osm picture of my area for testing, and not the custom geotiffs :) |
| 14:01.30 | cr2 | T0m4rn0ld: i think qtopia. android supports the phone ? |
| 14:02.06 | T0m4rn0ld | idk, i just thought that if it can linux it should run android, right? |
| 14:02.19 | T0m4rn0ld | *s/can/ran |
| 14:02.50 | rakeem | I don't have my GPS here in HK... They're pretty cheap now though... Are you guys working to refine the map-import process, 'cos it looks bloody complicated from watching you guys talking... |
| 14:02.52 | cr2 | maybe, i don't know. |
| 14:04.26 | cr2 | rakeem: osm import is easy. you are welcome to check it, and tell your opinion. get qlandkarteGT from qlandkarte.org |
| 14:04.38 | T0m4rn0ld | where can i find new Qtopia images? |
| 14:04.49 | cr2 | rakeem: we just use GT and M short names in discussion |
| 14:05.09 | cr2 | T0m4rn0ld: linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa |
| 14:05.31 | T0m4rn0ld | thank you |
| 14:05.44 | kiozen | cr2: rakeem: OSM import is currently dormant in GT |
| 14:06.35 | kiozen | you have to uncomment the three lines in CMapEditWidget constructor |
| 14:08.08 | cr2 | ok |
| 14:08.16 | rakeem | cr2: Okay, I'll give it a whirl.... What GUI do I want on my device? |
| 14:08.42 | cr2 | qt4/qtopia, obviously. |
| 14:09.21 | cr2 | the GT is a qt4 desktop app for preparing the maps, and M is the qtopia moving map app. |
| 14:09.38 | T0m4rn0ld | hmm strange, http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/Qtopia/ has the files "Last modified" on the 20th of Jan, but the Readme states that the Qtopia is version 4.3.1-snapshot-03.12.2008 |
| 14:09.45 | T0m4rn0ld | is there something wrong? |
| 14:10.00 | cr2 | T0m4rn0ld: ask goxboxlive |
| 14:10.23 | T0m4rn0ld | ok, ty |
| 14:10.35 | rakeem | Ah. See, I'm coming from 0. I've never played with GPS under Linux... |
| 14:12.04 | cr2 | rakeem: what is GPS for you ? |
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| 14:12.53 | rakeem | cr2: ....another distraction? ;-) What do you mean? |
| 14:14.39 | cr2 | rakeem: lol. what GPS device are you going to play with ? |
| 14:14.49 | rakeem | TOm....: I've noticed that too.... cr2: Could it be something to do with an automated nightly-build thing? |
| 14:15.46 | cr2 | rakeem: goxboxlive makes some changes one can never track :) so it's better to ask him. |
| 14:16.47 | rakeem | cr2: Do I need one right now? Mine's 6500 miles away, 8 hours behind and I think the shop's shut here. I'm happy to just check out how the app's coming along... |
| 14:18.09 | rakeem | Anything I should look for when buying one? I might get one this weekend... |
| 14:19.54 | cr2 | rakeem: you will get a bt receiver ? |
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| 14:20.57 | cr2 | gps can be anything from small oem PCB to some geodetic two-frequency monster device with an external antenna |
| 14:21.53 | rakeem | Also, I've been playing a lot with linux on little Fonera routers, and I'm wondering if there's a reliable way to reboot them remotely if they've crashed ? I was thinking serial to the mainboard, but I've noticed they still return ICMP pings even when they're otherwise dead. Is there some low-level way of triggering a reboot over the LAN like a WoL? |
| 14:23.25 | cr2 | hehe, you can hack an evil icmp packet to trigger some obscure gpio. |
| 14:25.59 | rakeem | cr2: Need to see how my cash is... My crippled Uni may be joining the other unfortunates in my htc-museum of carnage... Any devices worth playing with other than the BA? |
| 14:31.16 | cr2 | a htc device ? |
| 14:31.26 | cr2 | n560 is working, but it's not a phone. |
| 14:31.58 | cr2 | athena will work, when i'll find my cpld1 gpio notes ;) |
| 14:32.07 | cr2 | i mean athena gps |
| 14:32.14 | rakeem | cr2: I'm not particularly bothered about such vulnerabitities as they're mostly non-essential, yet handy in an emergency. How about portknocking? Can that work at kernel level (or whatever it is that replies to pings when everything else is dead), to force reboot. I mean really force, in the same no-nonsense terms as Haret. |
| 14:33.09 | cr2 | dead as in software failure or a hardware failure ? |
| 14:33.38 | rakeem | What's the n560? I'm gettting confusion from google... |
| 14:33.53 | cr2 | in the recent years i've rebooted only on hardware failures. |
| 14:34.06 | cr2 | loox n560 aka htc dresden |
| 14:34.53 | cr2 | http://facts.fujitsu-siemens.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dspcontent&lid=50&page=3 |
| 14:35.08 | kiozen | http://www.htc-dresden.de/ |
| 14:35.26 | cr2 | LOL |
| 14:36.30 | kiozen | if i would have known earlier, that would have increased the WAF by decades |
| 14:36.58 | rakeem | cr2: They can be prone to lockups from a couple of things commonly, if playing with wifi, lots of switching to and from monitor mode, or adding and removing virtual NICs... Or just spazzing out with iptables and self-DOS'ing... Or. as I did last night: scp -pvr / root@....... instead of scp /scripts root@...... y'lknow? |
| 14:37.34 | cr2 | it has the same lcd as universal. a nice device, if you don't need a phone. |
| 14:38.17 | T0m4rn0ld | ok, i installed qtopia. it boots ok, but then i get a locked screen saying "No network" and i havent figured out to unlock it. Any ideas? |
| 14:38.18 | cr2 | rakeem: a generic answer is not easy. one needs to know the hardware. |
| 14:38.18 | rakeem | What do NASA do with their mars rovers? Intergalactic Ctrl+Alt+Del? |
| 14:38.53 | cr2 | T0m4rn0ld: you have disabled the pin on your sim card ? |
| 14:39.07 | T0m4rn0ld | nope |
| 14:39.14 | cr2 | rakeem: some custom firmware, obviously. |
| 14:39.41 | T0m4rn0ld | do i have to? |
| 14:39.58 | cr2 | T0m4rn0ld: do it, to test the device. i don't know if it was fixed recently. |
| 14:40.17 | rakeem | Simple as can be... Shit, for you I reckon it's clockwork.... It's an Atheros MIPS based SoC... Hang on... |
| 14:40.17 | T0m4rn0ld | kk |
| 14:40.39 | cr2 | qtopia supports entering the pin, don't know why it does not work on the uni. |
| 14:40.48 | rakeem | OpenWrt is very well supported. |
| 14:41.21 | rakeem | http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Fon/Fonera |
| 14:41.31 | kiozen | rakeem: Mars Climate Orbiter obviousely had wince with US profile running :P |
| 14:42.03 | rakeem | *Really*nice radio stage. Little beast draws 2 amps @ 5v.... |
| 14:42.11 | cr2 | rakeem: openwrt has a mips cpu ? afair there was an SD card hack using gpios. you can do the same for reset. |
| 14:45.01 | rakeem | kiozen: Well duh, and I'm sure they had the sense to contact their Microsoft representative who helped them tailor a support package to meet demands of the increasingly competitive modern spaceship market. |
| 14:45.48 | kiozen | lol |
| 14:46.20 | cr2 | rakeem: the m$ rep suggested to outsource the effort ? |
| 14:46.45 | rakeem | It's been done, and others... An mp3 decoder board, Flash upgrade, and even a (slow) LCD module displaying photos... |
| 14:47.03 | rakeem | cr2: Ha! |
| 14:49.11 | cr2 | rakeem: and at the same time fire all the developers who know something in this field. i guess it's the standard praxis these days |
| 14:50.50 | kiozen | cr2: sure by that the project leader doesn't look like a complete morron anymore, Thus quality was raised for the benefit of the customers. |
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| 14:54.49 | cr2 | kiozen: it's really not funny. many companies we know were restructured (=renamed + fired competent older people), and the younger people very often have no clue how to service the hardware. |
| 14:55.16 | rakeem | I hate dicks in suits. I sometimes envy them. How nice it must be to concentrate so totally on money, blissfully untroubled by anything like independent, abstract thought. One day we'll all be able to achieve hapiness through relentless acquisition of material wealth alone. |
| 14:57.53 | rakeem | Just got your point about the reset being on a GPIO... That is interesting... |
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| 14:58.30 | rakeem | Although I don't want to nuke the FS back to defaults. Just a kick is fine. |
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| 15:37.19 | kiozen | cr2: I improved and updated the binary on the server |
| 15:39.13 | cr2 | kiozen: downloaded |
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| 15:49.40 | Pryan | hola |
| 15:50.58 | rakeem | cr2: Is this sense or noise?: I think that USB host is not hardware implemented just because they gave more attention to differ a charger from usb charging, so they used the only "free" pin to work with charger identification. |
| 15:54.27 | dcordes | cr2, facing the same problem on kaiser even with dzo changes |
| 15:54.57 | dcordes | it's about kaiser having a different mdp- guess that's nothing new is it? |
| 15:55.35 | rakeem | I'm sure the FCC would love this Qtopia bug: BUG 173424: When entering the SIM PIN, pressing the Unlock button would unexpectedly dial emergency services if the entered PIN matched an emergency number. |
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| 16:20.24 | Sliss | connection error .. something said in between? |
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| 17:48.23 | Pryan | dice adios |
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| 18:19.28 | tsdogs | BabelO_: there? |
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| 20:58.21 | cr2 | hi tsdogs |
| 20:58.28 | tsdogs | cr2: hi |
| 20:59.56 | cr2 | i'm doing some small progress |
| 21:00.44 | tsdogs | cr2: for what I understood u don't need the one way option in roadmap anymore, right? |
| 21:03.33 | cr2 | ? |
| 21:03.52 | tsdogs | cr2: the editing buttons :) |
| 21:04.00 | cr2 | why not ? |
| 21:04.27 | tsdogs | ho, I though that having shapefile available u told me that was not needed :( |
| 21:04.56 | cr2 | this one was funny today http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=287 |
| 21:05.08 | cr2 | somebody has to create the shapefiles ... |
| 21:05.30 | cr2 | and editing on a pda/phone is the best and easiest way to do it. |
| 21:08.02 | tsdogs | lol |
| 21:08.11 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:12.18 | cr2 | tsdogs: i'm not a great gui programmer, but the oneway editor should be really easy to do :) |
| 21:12.42 | cr2 | the two-segment selection is certainly a more complex task. |
| 21:12.55 | tsdogs | cr2: yes I know, I only need to write the code that writes the data into the txt file. |
| 21:13.04 | cr2 | append. |
| 21:13.15 | tsdogs | cr2: even for duplicates? |
| 21:13.27 | BabelO | hi tsdogs :) |
| 21:13.35 | tsdogs | BabelO: hi. |
| 21:13.45 | cr2 | and a check for a free space :) |
| 21:13.58 | tsdogs | ? |
| 21:14.01 | cr2 | an error here can destroy a lot of work. |
| 21:14.28 | tsdogs | u mean open file. |
| 21:14.33 | cr2 | if the disk is full, then not just call roadmap_log() |
| 21:14.55 | tsdogs | check if an entry already exsist. then write. |
| 21:15.01 | cr2 | yes, a popup on a write error is a must. |
| 21:15.21 | tsdogs | if the write fails then notify, and ask for another action ok |
| 21:15.44 | cr2 | imho, a duplicate is not a fatal error. |
| 21:15.54 | tsdogs | ok, you always take last ok? |
| 21:16.12 | cr2 | yes, the last will be the "active" one. |
| 21:16.23 | tsdogs | ok, that should be easy. |
| 21:16.35 | cr2 | this is like a patch file anyway. |
| 21:16.40 | tsdogs | :) |
| 21:18.46 | tsdogs | BabelO: thx for the e-mail but the wid option is of no use on qtopia :( |
| 21:19.42 | cr2 | tsdogs: it's not qtopia anymore. |
| 21:19.48 | tsdogs | ? |
| 21:20.08 | cr2 | Qt for Embedded Linux (formerly known as Qtopia Core). |
| 21:20.34 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.00 | tsdogs | ok, they changed it back :) |
| 21:21.06 | BabelO | tsdogs: ah sorry :( i just found it when was looking for something else |
| 21:21.07 | tsdogs | cr2: qtopia-core != qtopia |
| 21:21.36 | tsdogs | qtopia-core == qt embedded ~= qt4 |
| 21:21.39 | tsdogs | or not? |
| 21:22.27 | cr2 | not anymore it seems |
| 21:22.53 | cr2 | and they always talk about gplv2 for some reason. on this page. |
| 21:22.56 | tsdogs | u mean that the qt44-preview of core includes the qte and phone? |
| 21:23.03 | tsdogs | hmm. |
| 21:23.05 | cr2 | but it's v2 or v3 in the source. |
| 21:23.26 | cr2 | you can check, i'll compile the x11 version now. |
| 21:23.34 | tsdogs | there is even a 4.5 snapshot :) |
| 21:24.28 | tsdogs | cr2: I think that it's only the qt toolkit and not the phone edition... |
| 21:24.57 | cr2 | ok, maybe. i don't know. |
| 21:25.12 | cr2 | compiling the wince version may be interesting too. |
| 21:26.42 | tsdogs | ok downloading 4.4.1 snapshot :) |
| 21:26.44 | ljp | ore does not contain phone |
| 21:27.54 | tsdogs | ljp: I though so. what would happen if I use the 4.4.1 with the phone 4.3.2? or we should wait for the 4.4 of qtopia? |
| 21:28.20 | tsdogs | BabelO: u tryed it right? |
| 21:28.30 | ljp | not sure. it may or may not compile or work |
| 21:28.57 | BabelO | tsdogs: does not configure :( failed on qmake ..... on Dbus |
| 21:29.00 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:29.15 | BabelO | tsdogs: maybe with more works, but doing other thing |
| 21:29.33 | tsdogs | ljp: will it be released soon? |
| 21:29.33 | BabelO | we wait until tomorrow, we can wait one month more :) |
| 21:30.42 | tsdogs | ljp: though I agree with the name change, qtopia-core was confusing people :) |
| 21:34.14 | cr2 | ljp: why is the configure.exe for wince a binary file ? |
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| 21:39.13 | ljp | cr2: dunno, youd have to ask oslo |
| 21:39.18 | ljp | or germany |
| 21:41.40 | cr2 | ok, i'd obviously like to compile it with mingw32ce |
| 21:42.53 | cr2 | so the file itself is not that much interesting. |
| 21:44.25 | cr2 | it runs in wine, btw. |
| 21:48.58 | cr2 | tsdogs: can you compile roadmap for qtopia ? |
| 21:52.05 | tsdogs | cr2: yes |
| 21:53.10 | cr2 | i've already tried qlandkarteM, but it does not work as i expected. need to wait for kiozen. |
| 21:54.39 | paulproteus_ | waves |
| 21:56.13 | tsdogs | cr2: without expat though (don't have it in the toolchain) |
| 21:56.18 | tsdogs | hi paulproteus |
| 21:56.38 | paulproteus | tsdogs, You're still using that Mio phone? |
| 21:56.59 | tsdogs | paulproteus: not me ;) it was goxboxlive |
| 21:57.04 | paulproteus | Oh, okay. (-: |
| 21:57.07 | paulproteus | Which are you on? |
| 21:58.48 | tsdogs | Uni |
| 21:59.08 | paulproteus | Yay (-: |
| 22:33.39 | BabelO | tsdogs: did you try BA image ? ;) |
| 22:33.59 | tsdogs | BabelO: nope, u told me to wait :) |
| 22:34.11 | BabelO | tsdogs: right ;) |
| 22:35.06 | tsdogs | roadmap sourcecode is such a maze :/ |
| 22:39.44 | evilrox | i'm calling al pc\vodafone stores here to find an htc universal.. after over 20 calls nothing... i hope i'll be more lucky tomorrow! |
| 22:39.50 | evilrox | all* |
| 22:40.35 | tsdogs | evilrox: probably ebay is best for finding one. |
| 22:41.03 | evilrox | tsdogs: there's just one on ebay, and it's not new |
| 22:41.20 | tsdogs | evilrox: u from ? |
| 22:41.55 | paulproteus | I bought one on eBay I think. |
| 22:41.58 | evilrox | tsdogs: italy wait one new found on ebay! |
| 22:42.07 | paulproteus | I didn't bother trying to find one that was new. |
| 22:42.11 | tsdogs | lol |
| 22:44.08 | tsdogs | evilrox: on ebay.it try "qtek 9000" |
| 22:44.22 | evilrox | not new.. paulproteus: i think ever to what i do at my stuff.. and so i prefer the new things |
| 22:44.29 | paulproteus | evilrox, Hah (-: |
| 22:44.30 | paulproteus | Good point! |
| 22:45.14 | tsdogs | Vodafone v1640 |
| 22:45.45 | tsdogs | hmm interesting: i-mate JASJAR |
| 22:46.01 | evilrox | tsdogs: yes that i was watching |
| 22:46.57 | tsdogs | http://cgi.ebay.it/Palmare-i-Mate-JasJar-Vodafone-v1640-Qtek-9000_W0QQitemZ320233664740QQihZ011QQcategoryZ32242QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:47.17 | tsdogs | has a buy it now 380 eur are a bit too much thoguh |
| 22:47.47 | tsdogs | http://cgi.ebay.it/Palmare-i-mate-Jasjar_W0QQitemZ160224416850QQihZ006QQcategoryZ32242QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:47.50 | tsdogs | more interesting |
| 22:48.37 | evilrox | second hand 380⬠he's crazy |
| 22:49.09 | tsdogs | new costed around 800 |
| 22:50.37 | evilrox | tsdogs: the second link you pasted seems perfect.. i've just to charge my card |
| 22:50.51 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:51.03 | tsdogs | just check it's not a froud |
| 22:51.26 | evilrox | there's paypal protection till 200 euros |
| 22:52.55 | tsdogs | yes, looks pretty good (I whish I had such an option when I bought mine, it took me something about 3weeks :( |
| 22:53.03 | evilrox | argh |
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| 23:17.09 | patoche | BabelO, any new kernel for wizard/artemis to try ?? |
| 23:18.12 | BabelO | patoche: no, i m on BA these days :) have to finish the spi driver |
| 23:19.50 | BabelO | good night |
| 23:20.25 | patoche | ok thanks |
| 23:20.28 | patoche | 'night |
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| 23:44.04 | tsdogs | cr2: there? |
| 23:46.08 | cr2 | yes |
| 23:47.17 | tsdogs | cr2: what is the id for the street? |
| 23:47.22 | tsdogs | the fips? |
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| 23:47.53 | cr2 | tlid |
| 23:48.06 | cr2 | fips is more the 'map id' |
| 23:48.42 | cr2 | fips is also used by roadmap as 'city id', which may confuse you. |
| 23:48.43 | tsdogs | hmm, ok, I need to find where this tild is stored :( |
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| 23:49.05 | cr2 | i think we should rename fips as city_id or something like that. |
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| 23:49.25 | cr2 | in the city related code |
| 23:50.08 | tsdogs | ok |
| 23:50.08 | cr2 | but i need to fix the utf8 problems first, so the city search code will become useful. |
| 23:50.15 | tsdogs | yes |
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| 23:50.39 | cr2 | there is the point_idx |
| 23:50.59 | tsdogs | cr2: 1416 looks good to you as a tild? |
| 23:51.13 | cr2 | i.e. the points have only an internal index. |
| 23:51.23 | cr2 | yes, any positive integer is ok. |
| 23:51.44 | cr2 | the 'tlid' is the line/road_id. |
| 23:52.07 | tsdogs | cr2: I have a line->id and a street->id (?) |
| 23:52.22 | cr2 | it should be predefined, and just stored in the db. the point_idx is generated. |
| 23:52.28 | tsdogs | well line id is always 0 |
| 23:52.45 | cr2 | which map are you using ? |
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| 23:53.12 | cr2 | "shpmp" maps use autoincrement as an id. |
| 23:53.15 | tsdogs | oslo |
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| 23:53.41 | cr2 | this feature is really important for the route planning |
| 23:54.24 | tsdogs | I think it's the street->id |
| 23:54.26 | cr2 | where you need to know "from_id", "to_id" and to which "line_id=street_segment_id" they belong |
| 23:54.48 | cr2 | iafair street is just a name in the dictionary |
| 23:55.21 | cr2 | so the "street" line segments are joined by name, to save the dictionary entries. |
| 23:55.25 | tsdogs | it's using some strange roadmap_plugin.c structures here... |
| 23:55.46 | cr2 | yes, it's a bit obfuscated there. |
| 23:56.07 | tsdogs | hmm there is also a plugin_id |
| 23:56.14 | cr2 | because the "tables" are just the arrays of 'structs' anyway. |
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| 23:57.50 | cr2 | tsdogs: i have some notes on the map API as i understand it. i need to put them into wiki some time... |
| 23:58.15 | tsdogs | ok line is line, and street is retrieved from the line if it's a street for what I understand |
| 23:58.39 | tsdogs | cr2: yes, I should put some info on how to build qt4 and qtopia :) some time... |
| 23:59.53 | cr2 | it'd be nice to build a qt4 windows version too. unfortunately it uses native mingw only ;) |