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| 08:18.33 | BabelO_ | hi |
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| 09:33.34 | dzo | Hi All, just got android to boot on my vogue (msm7500). There's no input yet and the phone doesn't work but it's a start. I've put some stuff at cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue. Have fun. |
| 09:43.30 | cr2 | dzo: is the usb working ? |
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| 12:55.18 | Kevin2 | dzo: Can you can send a description of your haret changes (along with a patch) to haret@handhelds.org? |
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| 13:37.04 | dcordes | hi dzo, did you do any further work on kaiser boot issue? |
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| 14:45.24 | paulproteus | dzo, Is that a GSM phone? |
| 14:50.23 | cr2 | paulproteus: cmda |
| 14:50.32 | cr2 | s/cmda/cdma/ |
| 14:50.38 | paulproteus | cr2, Ah-hah, thanks |
| 14:51.06 | cr2 | there is an umts variant msm7200, but kaiser has a different setup. |
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| 15:26.54 | kiozen | cr2: some minor bug fixes and enhancements |
| 15:26.57 | kiozen | svn up |
| 15:27.41 | cr2 | hi kiozen |
| 15:27.47 | kiozen | hi :) |
| 15:28.07 | cr2 | i've finished a big georef project with GT :) |
| 15:28.15 | cr2 | a really nice program. |
| 15:29.17 | kiozen | thanks, all 200 pages ? |
| 15:29.40 | cr2 | not yet, but more than a half of it. |
| 15:30.05 | cr2 | it's for osm validation :) |
| 15:30.07 | kiozen | wow |
| 15:30.15 | kiozen | btw http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2008-March/016647.html |
| 15:30.49 | cr2 | there is some RPC support in gdal already. |
| 15:31.07 | cr2 | two ideas came into my mind while referencing: |
| 15:31.29 | cr2 | why do you show the scale bar on the non-referenced image ? |
| 15:32.02 | kiozen | that is one of my fixes |
| 15:32.49 | cr2 | it's a good idea to add the 4. gdal_addo step. i've loaded ~100 4000x4000 tiles in qgis, and it take some time to rescale on small zoom levels :) |
| 15:33.34 | cr2 | recompiling |
| 15:41.08 | kiozen | cr2: EADS is not so nice. They downed another project that converts mpr to geotiff |
| 15:42.23 | cr2 | ok, then remove it. it's not a core functionality. |
| 15:42.59 | kiozen | did already |
| 15:43.04 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:43.27 | kiozen | guess I have to look in yp for a good lawyer soon ;) |
| 15:43.49 | cr2 | the qpegps ML told about hi-res 'printing' many years ago. |
| 15:44.46 | cr2 | we have not taken over the world yet, so there is no reason for EADS whining. |
| 15:50.43 | kiozen | cr2: lawyers don't need a reason, they just need a chance to corrupt the law to their needs to get active. If EADS wants to fight it's monopoly they will. And no one will pay royalties if the format is availbale as os. |
| 15:57.13 | cr2 | kiozen: it looks like mp3 to me. |
| 15:58.54 | paulproteus | What's this about EADS and MPR? |
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| 15:59.41 | kiozen | the german authorities publish high detailed topographic maps in a format "invented" by EADS |
| 16:00.02 | kiozen | same same like GeoTiff but different |
| 16:00.03 | paulproteus | Ah, I see. |
| 16:00.08 | paulproteus | Naturally. |
| 16:00.11 | paulproteus | And the format is patented? |
| 16:00.18 | paulproteus | I guess now I can search about it. (-: |
| 16:00.27 | kiozen | you cant patent a format in germany |
| 16:00.42 | paulproteus | Thank goodness it's not the US over there.... |
| 16:00.56 | kiozen | but the whole physical prcocess of scanning and displaying the map was patented |
| 16:01.08 | kiozen | also the idea of tiling the map |
| 16:01.14 | kiozen | but that patent expired 2006 |
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| 16:02.46 | kiozen | currently no one knows on what base they downed the site |
| 16:02.56 | kiozen | it was hosted by the ETA Zuerich |
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| 16:06.15 | Sliss | does this error ring a bell? "can't get mixer element 'Phone'" |
| 16:07.45 | cr2 | stoneage gomunicator |
| 16:08.08 | Sliss | yes |
| 16:09.53 | Sliss | ok well... i will try tomorrow then... |
| 16:09.57 | Sliss | cio |
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| 17:57.48 | dcordes | Sliss, in alsamixer just set output muxer to mixer and microphone to external. Ignore the mixer element error. (in case you read log) |
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| 18:28.34 | dcordes | cr2, ping |
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| 19:00.06 | Marex | cr2, http://pastebin.ca/965038 btw I even get a response |
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| 19:10.39 | dzo | dcordes, could you try my latest kernel to see if it works on kaiser. It now boots with an unmodified haret so no patches needed. The modified haret was really useful for debugging but isn't needed now. |
| 19:14.06 | BabelO | cr2: how can i know if something in kernel already use usb port ? ( mean a gadget like g_ether) ? |
| 19:19.02 | kiozen | BabelO: parse the sys or proc tree? |
| 19:20.17 | BabelO | kiozen: module can be loaded but not used :( i do with QProcess(lsmod) then a stringlist grep g_storage_filen |
| 19:21.05 | BabelO | kiozen: yuo see my screenshot ? |
| 19:21.11 | kiozen | yes :) |
| 19:21.21 | BabelO | can be usefull for you too |
| 19:21.37 | kiozen | don't make the squirrels laugh! |
| 19:22.12 | BabelO | kiozen: to mount your n560 and copy maps directly to storage :) |
| 19:22.41 | kiozen | I wanted to do this via g_ether) |
| 19:22.49 | BabelO | :( |
| 19:22.52 | BabelO | poor |
| 19:23.08 | kiozen | why? |
| 19:23.11 | BabelO | network connection setup for windows user ? can be funny :) |
| 19:23.32 | kiozen | ok, but you said it's feasible ;) |
| 19:23.55 | BabelO | kiozen: my office computer does not accpt linux rndis since many days now :( |
| 19:24.00 | BabelO | kiozen: yes it works perfect |
| 19:24.15 | kiozen | lol |
| 19:24.34 | BabelO | kiozen: but for an obscur reason, , since i plug many device on same USB port of a M$ XP |
| 19:24.55 | kiozen | but you are right, users know the handling of bulk devices better |
| 19:25.12 | BabelO | kiozen: windoze is lost, how is it possible to get 3 linux RNDIS on same USB port, please reformat your computer :) |
| 19:25.20 | kiozen | I wonder if you can shadow directories |
| 19:25.51 | kiozen | to make just the data path visible |
| 19:26.14 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm not a big usb expert |
| 19:26.24 | kiozen | BabelO: it always says Windows Vista or better -> Linux |
| 19:27.02 | BabelO | kiozen: a data pah, no, but a partition or a small loopack file |
| 19:28.08 | kiozen | data path would be cool, partition makes it a problem again |
| 19:28.25 | BabelO | kiozen: Vista ? :) are you sure yuo plug a new device on this computer ? are you really sure ? ok .... by security this device was automatically removed because of the timeout you answer to the questions |
| 19:28.49 | kiozen | LOL |
| 19:29.16 | kiozen | haven't used Vista sofar. plan to buy XP for the new pc... if it ever arrives |
| 19:29.18 | BabelO | kiozen: i think gadgetfs let you do a path export, i have to check |
| 19:29.30 | Marex | Starting dumb terminal |
| 19:29.30 | Marex | DUMB> ATE0;V0 |
| 19:29.30 | Marex | WROTE: 0x41 0x54 0x45 0x30 0x3b 0x56 0x30 0x0a - SUM 8 |
| 19:29.30 | Marex | READ: 0x30 0x0d 0xb3 0x5f - SUM 4 |
| 19:29.30 | Marex | DUMB> |
| 19:29.36 | Marex | sable/beetles GSM :) |
| 19:30.46 | cr2 | Marex: cu -s 921600 ? |
| 19:31.01 | Marex | what's cu? |
| 19:31.08 | Marex | I wrote my own simple app |
| 19:36.16 | kiozen | BabelO: wasn't there a way to embed a file id into QIODevice object? |
| 19:39.27 | BabelO | kiozen: only i see like this is to create a losetup /dev/loop0 /path/to/myfile then QIODevice to /dev/loop0, but .... |
| 19:39.29 | Marex | cr2, check PM and please dont call me :) |
| 19:39.44 | BabelO | kiozen: gadgetfs can do what you want, but need some code |
| 19:40.38 | kiozen | BabelO: sorry i jumped a bit forward. I was thinking of a serial port now, has nothing to do with USB |
| 19:41.26 | BabelO | kiozen: what do you want to do ? |
| 19:41.43 | kiozen | that look good: bool QFile::open ( int fd, OpenMode mode ) |
| 19:41.59 | kiozen | open a serial port to a GPS :) |
| 19:42.40 | BabelO | kiozen: ah ;) this works yes, look direstly at qtopia code ;) in qtopiacomm there is code sample :) |
| 19:43.06 | kiozen | ok thanks :) |
| 19:43.43 | kiozen | cr2 flame me, but I decided to skip gpsd for now ;) |
| 19:43.56 | kiozen | s/cr2/cr2 will |
| 19:44.29 | kiozen | thinks: can we teach apt to be nice to the trailing slash? |
| 19:45.54 | cr2 | Marex: what's wrong with 'cu' and 'chat' ? |
| 19:46.24 | Marex | hmm ... no idea what cu is, that's the problem :) |
| 19:46.34 | Marex | cr2, I'll try omoko gsmd |
| 19:46.42 | cr2 | kiozen: i thought that dealing with the unsolicited data from a serial port is not easy :) but for M it may be better. |
| 19:47.12 | cr2 | Marex: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/comm/cu |
| 19:47.31 | Marex | cr2, I see, ok :) |
| 19:47.44 | kiozen | cr2: IMHO there is not much sense in exchanging problems with NMEA with problems with gpsd :) |
| 19:47.53 | dcordes | dzo, trying your image now on kaiser. do you have usb on vogue? |
| 19:48.13 | cr2 | Marex: one can easily determine the age of a person, by suggesting to use cu :) |
| 19:48.56 | cr2 | kiozen: NMEA sucks anyway. sirf binary, on sirf !=3, is the real answer |
| 19:49.03 | Marex | cr2, hehe :) yea, Im not a fossil :p |
| 19:49.08 | cr2 | LOL |
| 19:49.11 | dcordes | dzo, http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/initrd-android -> The requested URL /vogue/initrd-android was not found on this server. |
| 19:49.35 | dcordes | will try zImage only for now |
| 19:50.13 | cr2 | Marex: hmm. where is this nice link... |
| 19:50.22 | BabelO | Marex: for non fossil, try minicom :) nvurses is better, cu is much irix or sco :) |
| 19:50.28 | kiozen | well, I'll have an abstraction layer anyway, thus binary whatever will be easy to add |
| 19:50.28 | Marex | cr2, what nice link ? |
| 19:50.48 | Marex | BabelO, I know minicom, but I need some init first |
| 19:50.49 | cr2 | BabelO: do you rememenr where is the ncurses sirfmon and gsm link ? |
| 19:50.53 | Marex | and I dont have minicom in my image |
| 19:51.00 | cr2 | pe1ch something. |
| 19:51.02 | Marex | doesnt matter, Im enough with my term :) |
| 19:51.54 | BabelO | cr2: i ll look wait ;) |
| 19:52.10 | dcordes | dzo, wm freezes with haret.exe zImage default.txt (unmodified) currently on your site |
| 19:52.58 | cr2 | BabelO: found |
| 19:53.01 | cr2 | http://pe1chl.xs4all.nl/Softw |
| 19:53.37 | cr2 | Marex: gsm.c is the one true phone app :) |
| 19:54.54 | kiozen | cr2: world domination is dooooomed! |
| 19:55.10 | dcordes | dzo, also with the first two lines in default.txt uncommented it does freeze w/o fb activity (no painting blank of screen) and no error message. |
| 19:55.11 | cr2 | kiozen: ? |
| 19:55.27 | kiozen | if you use ncurses for phone apps ;) |
| 19:55.59 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, it should be ncurses with ansi colors :) |
| 19:56.08 | kiozen | lol |
| 19:56.20 | kiozen | but it has a certain geek factor, no deny |
| 19:57.07 | cr2 | kiozen: M with ascii art certainly sucks. |
| 19:57.49 | kiozen | ohhhh yes, definetly, but isn't there a lib that tranforms bitmaps into ASCII art? |
| 19:58.09 | kiozen | there is a plugin for xine |
| 19:58.18 | cr2 | kiozen: 20 layer 15000x11000 map. i'd like to see what GT will say about it. |
| 19:58.36 | cr2 | yes, libaart |
| 19:58.49 | kiozen | GT wil work :) |
| 19:58.56 | dcordes | kiozen, mplayer also has such function |
| 19:59.13 | kiozen | dcordes: only use mplayer for sound ;) |
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| 20:03.23 | cr2 | kiozen: think about sirf binary, and the survey plugin. |
| 20:04.02 | cr2 | if you are going to use raw serial, the sirfmon code has the packet parser. |
| 20:04.25 | kiozen | there is IGps as base and currently CNMEA as implementation, easy to create different interfaces |
| 20:04.34 | dcordes | kiozen, http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIgx6RxJ8s |
| 20:05.18 | cr2 | kiozen: IGps ? |
| 20:05.33 | kiozen | In M |
| 20:06.11 | cr2 | Intelligent Global Pooling Systems (iGPS) is the world's first RFID-tagged, all-plastic pallet-pool. |
| 20:07.58 | kiozen | I have to puke, I had already my share of industry madness today |
| 20:08.16 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:08.21 | lpotter | yes, we need ncurses phone! |
| 20:09.02 | kiozen | thinks there is still a geek alive, thank good! |
| 20:10.07 | cr2 | kiozen: i puke when i see qdsync taking 8MB ram in idle mode :) |
| 20:10.45 | kiozen | but it's opensource ! :P |
| 20:11.00 | cr2 | LOL |
| 20:26.45 | dcordes | also would like ncurses telephone |
| 20:34.46 | kiozen | BabelO: you know what to do to use QSerialPort |
| 20:35.02 | kiozen | I get the usual header file mess |
| 20:35.20 | kiozen | I wish qtopia would be as sane as qt |
| 20:36.29 | BabelO | kiozen: i was using it before, to test modem dialog |
| 20:36.56 | kiozen | compiler does not find all headers |
| 20:37.20 | kiozen | what is the propper way to tell qtopiamake? |
| 20:37.38 | kiozen | INCLUDES += <abs.path> ? |
| 20:38.04 | BabelO | yes , i often put sources into dirctory then do qtopiamake -project |
| 20:38.08 | kiozen | s/INCLUDES/INCLUDEPATH/ |
| 20:38.11 | BabelO | then edit pro file |
| 20:38.22 | BabelO | kiozen: http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qserialport.html |
| 20:39.22 | kiozen | BabelO: yes I know, but it does not tell what to add to *.pro to make it find the headers |
| 20:39.32 | kiozen | or I am blind |
| 20:40.00 | BabelO | kiozen: ah sorry ;) all is related to qtopia_projects() |
| 20:40.04 | BabelO | wait |
| 20:42.50 | BabelO | kiozen: qtopia_project(qtopia app) then |
| 20:43.16 | kiozen | BabelO: that is what I do already |
| 20:43.28 | BabelO | ok :( |
| 20:43.45 | BabelO | CONFIG+= |
| 20:43.56 | kiozen | make does not know that it has to search /opt/Qtopia/include/qtopiacomm/ for includes |
| 20:44.13 | kiozen | yes CONFIG+= was my 1st idea. but what to write? |
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| 20:45.40 | kiozen | I have tried comm, qtopiacomm, serialcom |
| 20:46.41 | BabelO | i see it somewhere, because i already use it... |
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| 20:47.49 | BabelO | kiozen: i think i see it in qdsync, i ll look |
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| 20:49.37 | BabelO | kiozen: lol, that is what i see it in qdsync :) |
| 20:49.51 | BabelO | kiozen: they put the whole qserialport class in external |
| 20:50.13 | kiozen | that means? |
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| 20:51.24 | BabelO | kiozen: that mean i use src/tools/qdsync/common/qserialport.* directly into project |
| 20:52.12 | kiozen | hm :/ |
| 20:52.21 | BabelO | kiozen: i was looking for serial library, that do all for me |
| 20:52.51 | kiozen | me too, but that is no solution, that is a mess |
| 20:53.30 | kiozen | qtopia is strange... |
| 20:54.01 | kiozen | ok, have to sleep about that |
| 20:54.04 | kiozen | good night |
| 20:54.10 | BabelO | night |
| 20:58.13 | BabelO | kiozen : depends(libraries/qtopiacomm) |
| 20:58.15 | BabelO | ok :( |
| 20:58.56 | lpotter | you need to add depends(libraries/qtopiacomm) in your .pro file |
| 20:59.03 | lpotter | heh |
| 20:59.05 | BabelO | yes ;) |
| 20:59.19 | BabelO | first |
| 21:11.13 | BabelO | lpotter: i don't remember why but i already use qdsync/common directory into an app .... have to look for the app to remember |
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| 21:34.47 | dzo | hi dcordes, I've put a couple of new images up to try on kaiser, can you have a go with zImage-k and then zImage-k1 |
| 21:34.59 | dcordes | sure thing |
| 21:35.16 | dzo | use the original haret and default.txt |
| 21:35.54 | dzo | you could try putting fbduringboot to 0 |
| 21:37.56 | dcordes | ok |
| 21:38.43 | dzo | also comment out the initrd line in dafault.txt |
| 21:38.51 | dcordes | did that |
| 21:42.41 | dzo | also ramaddr should be 0x10200000 |
| 21:43.08 | dzo | or is that 12000000? |
| 21:43.20 | dcordes | set RAMSIZE 0x02000000 ? |
| 21:43.37 | dcordes | your comment is |
| 21:43.38 | dcordes | set RAMADDR 0x10000000 |
| 21:43.38 | dcordes | set RAMSIZE 0x02000000 |
| 21:43.56 | dzo | let me just check on the mmap |
| 21:45.08 | dzo | ramaddr should be 0x10200000 |
| 21:45.21 | dzo | how much memory soes kaiser have? |
| 21:45.28 | dcordes | 128mb |
| 21:45.46 | dzo | ok just leave it commented out then. |
| 21:46.01 | dzo | (ramsize that is) |
| 21:48.02 | Zoolooc | hi dzo, so I heared you''re hacking the msm7200, and now I see it's true :) |
| 21:48.32 | dcordes | dzo, http://pastebin.com/m4db4b3dc could you check? |
| 21:48.45 | dzo | yep, got my msm7500 working but it looks like 7200 is a bit different. |
| 21:50.02 | Zoolooc | well, we hope those differences are not too hard to find out (being a kaiser owner myself) |
| 21:50.19 | Zoolooc | dzo: how do you mean, working ? |
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| 21:51.16 | dzo | looks like mdp may be a bit different, can you do a mmutrace |
| 21:51.48 | dcordes | dzo, I can try after boot attempt |
| 21:52.21 | dzo | working meaning kernel boots, even android boots, usb may be working, no keyboard, sd, radio etc. though |
| 21:53.26 | Zoolooc | alright, but at least it's a start, I'm glad you succeeded at least that far |
| 21:54.21 | dzo | shouldn't be much trouble to get kaiser working if you want to give it a go. my diffs are at http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue. |
| 21:55.25 | dcordes | dzo, zImage-k and set FBDURINGBOOT 1 shows now change towards previous try |
| 21:56.29 | dcordes | dzo, zImage-k1 and set FBDURINGBOOT 1 same |
| 21:57.13 | Zoolooc | I'd like to, but right now I'm sort of very short on time, all I could do right now, is try booting, as for hacking, I still have to find out a lot about kernel programming (c/c++ is not the problem, doing it at work, only in windows) |
| 21:58.18 | dzo | dcordes, ok, the thing to do is to run mmutrace 0xb2100000 0x00100000 with haret console. get the display to refresh and trace the accesses after irq 19. |
| 21:58.40 | Zoolooc | dzo: but thanks for the link to your page, will bookmark it |
| 21:58.54 | dzo | no problem. |
| 21:59.08 | dcordes | dzo, zImage-k1 and set FBDURINGBOOT 0 same. will do the trace in an instance |
| 21:59.19 | Zoolooc | and keep up the good work guys, hope to join you in few weeks |
| 21:59.46 | dcordes | Zoolooc, I'm here representing kaiser lobby ^^ |
| 22:00.41 | Zoolooc | I know dcordes, I'm very grateful you didn't lose your enthusiasm |
| 22:01.12 | dcordes | never! |
| 22:01.36 | Zoolooc | good boy ;) |
| 22:02.07 | Zoolooc | wish you all luck, got to go now, cu |
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| 22:07.32 | dcordes | dzo, ok haretconsole session open. now how exactly am I to issue those commands again? mmutrace .. does return Unknown keyword: `mmutrace' |
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| 22:11.08 | dcordes | addlist mmutrace bla bla; wirq n |
| 22:11.39 | dcordes | dzo, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ does that help? |
| 22:16.16 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.22 | dzo | ok sorry, i'm back now |
| 22:17.07 | dzo | at the console type wirq 1 |
| 22:17.44 | dcordes | w/o any addlist mmutrace? |
| 22:18.13 | dzo | yes, just to check the spurious irqs |
| 22:18.31 | dzo | you should get lots of irq 15s |
| 22:18.53 | dzo | if so, type ibit irqs 15 |
| 22:19.08 | dcordes | dzo, http://pastebin.com/m577d299a |
| 22:19.38 | dzo | then addlist mmutrace 0xb2100000 0x00100000 |
| 22:19.44 | dcordes | dzo, I did a lot of irq research yet, check URI above (just to make sure) |
| 22:21.20 | dzo | ok, you need to do wirq 10 and then get the screen to redraw by moving the haret window or something. |
| 22:21.36 | dzo | you should get some irq 19s |
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| 22:22.02 | dcordes | dzo, 19 and 16 while moving. |
| 22:22.40 | dzo | ok, a trace after 19 is the important one. |
| 22:26.54 | dcordes | dzo, ok so what am I supposed to do? |
| 22:28.26 | dzo | the mmutrace should give a long list of ldr and str instructions, does it not? |
| 22:29.05 | dcordes | dzo, could you tell me the command to put? |
| 22:29.59 | dzo | addlist mmutrace 0xb2100000 0x00100000 then wirq 10 then redraw the screen |
| 22:30.50 | dcordes | ok |
| 22:32.32 | dcordes | dzo, http://pastebin.com/m4f8e02ac |
| 22:36.00 | dzo | hi, there weren't enough 0s on 0x00100000, but it should have done something. must be very different. |
| 22:36.16 | dzo | unless the trace didn't work |
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| 22:37.06 | dcordes | dzo, ok. anything else to try? |
| 22:37.36 | dzo | try it with addlist mmutrace 0xb2100000 0x00100000, just in case. |
| 22:40.44 | dzo | there should be some writes to 0xb2110044 |
| 22:41.26 | dcordes | output of wirq does look pretty much the same |
| 22:41.37 | dcordes | I'm pasting |
| 22:42.22 | dcordes | http://pastebin.com/m7444a665 |
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| 22:46.19 | dzo | that's why there's no fb output in haret. mdp is different. unless it just doesn't trace on kaiser . somebody here said kaiser doesn't trace properly. |
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| 22:47.52 | dzo | i'll do some thinking, wince obviously does draw the screen somehow. unless its done from the arm9 side. |
| 22:48.25 | dzo | ok, got to go now. see you later. |
| 22:50.30 | dcordes | dzo, bye and thanks for help |
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| 23:44.12 | Marex | cr2, Im such a moron |
| 23:44.31 | Marex | cr2, I can redo it again tomorow, I have some problem with buffer accumulation and I cant find where |
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