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| 00:59.05 | evilrox | 'evening |
| 01:00.45 | tsdogs | evilrox: night :) |
| 01:01.07 | evilrox | :D night tsdogs |
| 01:01.22 | tsdogs | hi evilrox |
| 01:03.00 | evilrox | hi tsdogs, i wonder if cr2 build a rootfs\image bootable for my ipaq |
| 01:03.55 | tsdogs | evilrox: no idea, but he'll only get u to booting the kernel, after that them rootfs/image is up to you :) |
| 01:05.55 | evilrox | tsdogs: oh well i could use the angstrom for h5000 or similar |
| 01:06.22 | tsdogs | yes, the are pretty much the same, only need to replace kernel modules, and do some config. |
| 01:06.52 | tsdogs | but then contributing back your changes would be apreciated :) |
| 01:07.16 | evilrox | but my usb sd card reader is crappy, it goes over buffer sending files up to 5mb at time |
| 01:07.25 | evilrox | sure tsdogs, is the minimum |
| 01:08.23 | tsdogs | evilrox: the one on the phone? |
| 01:08.27 | evilrox | took me half an hour to move dir of the angstrom rootfs on the ext3 partition |
| 01:08.31 | evilrox | nope, the adapter |
| 01:08.51 | evilrox | the one on the phone is great, but with synce it only works on the fat partition |
| 01:08.59 | tsdogs | f. just killed qemu :( |
| 01:09.09 | evilrox | :o |
| 01:09.38 | tsdogs | restarting again :( no much loss though |
| 01:10.04 | evilrox | :) |
| 01:22.52 | tsdogs | ok, I need some sleep before blowing up my machine and keeping doing dumber things than normal. good night |
| 01:57.02 | evilrox | night tsdogs :) |
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| 11:27.47 | evilrox | 'morning |
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| 12:48.28 | BabelO | hi |
| 12:57.48 | tsdogs | Hi BabelO |
| 12:57.57 | BabelO | ola tsdogs |
| 12:58.56 | tsdogs | BabelO: btw using... |
| 12:59.02 | tsdogs | class QSettings; |
| 12:59.13 | tsdogs | class xyz: public QSettings ... |
| 12:59.30 | tsdogs | and then including in the .cpp file has a drawnback :( |
| 12:59.52 | tsdogs | which is that every time u include that file u also need to include <QSettings> |
| 12:59.53 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes i do the same in by app :) |
| 13:00.06 | BabelO | tsdogs: i ve added function to save structure |
| 13:00.14 | tsdogs | ? |
| 13:00.24 | tsdogs | ho in QSettings |
| 13:02.26 | BabelO | tsdogs: no i create my own class from qsettings like you do |
| 13:03.27 | tsdogs | yes ok, u have a class which also saves structures :) |
| 13:04.01 | BabelO | tsdogs: in imlife sources settings.cpp, but it is not generic |
| 13:04.04 | tsdogs | what I mean is that if u need that class in some other file, you'll always need to also include the QSettings header ... |
| 13:04.23 | BabelO | no |
| 13:04.43 | BabelO | if you include QSetitngs in header of your own class definition |
| 13:05.09 | tsdogs | hmm. strange, I have that behavier here... |
| 13:05.45 | tsdogs | ho ok, but that's not what I wanted :) |
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| 13:14.15 | tsdogs | BabelO, cr2: you know if qemu reproduces the alignment trap of ARM? |
| 13:14.55 | tsdogs | or maybe pH5? |
| 13:23.46 | cr2 | tsdogs: hi |
| 13:23.52 | tsdogs | cr2: hi |
| 13:24.01 | cr2 | tsdogs: printf the addresses you use |
| 13:25.00 | tsdogs | cr2: that code is huge and dificult to understand, I have many traps, so I was tryng to create a qemuarm which could help me debug this. |
| 13:25.18 | tsdogs | the qemu is up and running Qtopia (somehow the htcuniversal version :) |
| 13:26.43 | tsdogs | but qemu does not seem to emulate the memory mapping problem (it has the option in the kernel which probably doesn't do anything :( |
| 13:28.04 | tsdogs | cr2: if u want a look: http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=blob;f=src/3rdparty/applications/qterminal/TerminalDisplay.cpp;h=1681bc367aa01f269ade19ecade4c6a3b0a4f4bc;hb=tsdogs |
| 13:31.11 | BabelO | tsdogs: any warning at compile time ? |
| 13:31.35 | tsdogs | BabelO: nope :( I also tryed with some g++ switches but nope |
| 13:33.08 | tsdogs | ho, well I'll have to go the hard way and use the device to debug :( |
| 13:33.51 | tsdogs | BabelO: though this is cool, qemuarm, with Angstrom, and Qtopia via VNC :) |
| 13:33.58 | BabelO | tsdogs: here i boot over nfs |
| 13:34.13 | BabelO | tsdogs: and use vnc to device so all is transparent ;) |
| 13:34.18 | BabelO | like emulator |
| 13:34.56 | tsdogs | BabelO: yes, but dunno how long it would take me to set all this up :) |
| 13:35.06 | tsdogs | probably it's the best way though |
| 13:35.32 | BabelO | tsdogs: just unpack to some directory your image |
| 13:35.39 | BabelO | edit /etc/exports |
| 13:35.49 | cr2 | tsdogs: afair from alpha times there was a way to have a signal on an aligment trap, so you can get a break in gdb. |
| 13:35.51 | BabelO | build kernel with nfs root support |
| 13:35.53 | tsdogs | BabelO: what's the haret cmdline |
| 13:36.13 | tsdogs | cr2: yes echo 4 > /proc/cpu/alignment :) |
| 13:36.27 | BabelO | tsdogs: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/qtopia/startup.txt |
| 13:36.38 | tsdogs | but that way I only get the funcion name and not the exact line |
| 13:37.04 | cr2 | tsdogs: ok, then run it in gdb an catch the signal |
| 13:37.15 | cr2 | s/an /and / |
| 13:37.59 | tsdogs | cr2: yes, probably it's the best way, the problem here is that I have many traps in that code ( at least I hope it's all in there :) |
| 13:38.47 | tsdogs | btw. qtopia rotated si not really that nice :) |
| 13:44.42 | tsdogs | BabelO: with configure kernel with nfs root means building NFS into kernel and not as modules? |
| 13:45.35 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes, and allow nfs as root also :) |
| 13:50.35 | tsdogs | BabelO: where is the nfs in the kernel tree? I'm always lost in there :) |
| 13:50.54 | BabelO | tsdogs: filesystem -> network |
| 13:52.00 | BabelO | tsdogs: you need Root file system on NFS |
| 13:52.14 | BabelO | do you see it ? |
| 13:53.23 | tsdogs | ok, building |
| 13:55.34 | tsdogs | BabelO: ok now I have a problem, I need the usb0 to come up when the device comes up, how do I do this? hmm, distro specific though |
| 13:55.44 | tsdogs | probably using udev |
| 13:58.57 | BabelO | tsdogs: you have builded g_ether insite too ? |
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| 14:09.31 | tsdogs | BabelO: chrcking |
| 14:11.42 | tsdogs | scripts/basic/fixdep.c:206: error: âPATH_MAXâ undeclared (first use in this function) ??? |
| 14:12.56 | tsdogs | wtf, no config anymore, and kernel fails to build ? |
| 14:13.27 | tsdogs | ok a path problem |
| 14:26.30 | tsdogs | lol, building xfs modules ? |
| 14:32.16 | tsdogs | bbl |
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| 14:34.03 | dcordes | hi |
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| 14:57.19 | evilrox | 'evening |
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| 15:35.50 | dcordes | hi evilrox |
| 15:36.16 | evilrox | hi dcordes :) |
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| 17:00.25 | Marex | pH5, hi |
| 17:01.09 | pH5 | hi Marex |
| 17:02.02 | Marex | pH5, would you mind helping me in commiting palmtt3 to handhelds ? |
| 17:02.15 | Marex | I think it will be one big patch though |
| 17:02.31 | Marex | since the device is supported in hackndev tree and I want it upstreamed |
| 17:02.48 | Marex | (fully supported since yesterday :D ) |
| 17:11.05 | pH5 | Marex: nice. I guess I could try. will you send it to the list? |
| 17:11.19 | Marex | is the list working again ? |
| 17:11.37 | pH5 | -discuss no. but -bugs works |
| 17:11.57 | Marex | ok, I see |
| 17:12.16 | Marex | I can either direct it to you or send it to the list ;) |
| 17:14.22 | pH5 | Marex: I'd prefer the list, that way maybe somebody else will have a look at it, too. |
| 17:14.31 | Marex | sure, ok |
| 17:14.38 | Marex | I still have to prepare that patch |
| 17:14.53 | Marex | I dunno if I should work at that or hw6515d phone |
| 17:15.14 | Marex | (probably the second and leave upstreaming of palmtt3 to the original authors) |
| 17:15.20 | Marex | btw http://hackndev.com/node/140 :) |
| 17:22.56 | BabelO | Marex: palmtt3 is based on omap ? right ? |
| 17:23.11 | Marex | nah |
| 17:23.14 | Marex | pxa261 |
| 17:23.21 | BabelO | Marex: ah :( sorry |
| 17:23.28 | Marex | T1 and T2 were omap1510 :) |
| 17:23.40 | BabelO | Marex: i ve my artemis running on hh kernel with muru patch |
| 17:24.25 | Marex | :) |
| 17:24.38 | Marex | artemis is omap ? |
| 17:33.10 | pH5 | Marex: omap850 |
| 17:33.47 | Marex | I see |
| 17:33.50 | Marex | ok :) |
| 17:45.47 | LunohoD | ÐºÑ |
| 17:45.48 | LunohoD | re |
| 17:46.41 | cr2 | proj4 sucks |
| 17:46.47 | LunohoD | BabelO: any artemis news? |
| 17:46.47 | cr2 | SPHEROID["Unknown",6378137,298.257223563]] |
| 17:50.53 | BabelO | LunohoD: no i try to work a little more on blueangel ;) |
| 18:06.13 | dcordes | pH5, did you look at moko-underground? the pyneo thing |
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| 18:20.43 | pH5 | dcordes: nope. is it worth looking at already? |
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| 20:33.22 | dcordes_ | pH5, I think so |
| 20:35.27 | dcordes_ | pH5, http://www.vanille-media.de/images/Fosdem2008-Neo1973-high.m4v |
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| 22:14.09 | cr2 | pH5: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,druck-544203,00.html |
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| 22:32.55 | pH5 | cr2: heh, right. there was a talk about that during 24c3. |
| 22:33.28 | pH5 | dcordes_: interesting. now if only I could get past low-level kernel land for all those devices accumulated on my table. |
| 22:34.36 | dcordes_ | pH5, I'm trying to get it running on my BA |
| 22:34.41 | dcordes_ | will report if it works |
| 22:37.15 | cr2 | pH5: what are you hacking now ? |
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| 22:41.43 | pH5 | cr2: hx4700 and blueangel. for whatever reason neither of them likes to boot on 2.6.25 |
| 22:42.48 | pH5 | and for magician ds1wm and sound are not working yet |
| 22:44.13 | pH5 | (and with boot I don't even mean graphical userspace, but reaching the machine_init function) |
| 22:44.18 | dcordes_ | pH5, are you working in ltg git? |
| 22:44.22 | pH5 | I guess I'm doing something stupid somewhere. |
| 22:45.58 | cr2 | pH5: ok. i'm surprised about hx4700. the n560 boot/resume process is so bizarre, that i wish to reflash it now ;) but it may break wince, who knows |
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| 22:47.35 | pH5 | dcordes_: mainline. I want to prepare working patches with minimal functionality from the stuff we have in hh.org/ltg, but something is borked this weekend. |
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| 22:48.36 | cr2 | hi Kevin2 |
| 22:52.06 | pH5 | versuchts mal mit schlaf |
| 22:53.16 | Kevin2 | Hi cr2 |
| 22:56.13 | cr2 | Kevin2: i've added many new functions to haret. the linload.exe is broken=does not boot. |
| 22:56.54 | cr2 | i've checked out the 0.4.8 tag, then linload.exe works |
| 22:57.46 | cr2 | dzo has managed to boot the zimage on msm7500 by patching haret not to disable the mmu. |
| 23:11.16 | Kevin2 | Hi cr2 - sorry I was on the phone. |
| 23:11.45 | Kevin2 | My machine had a meltdown two weeks ago - I bought replacement parts - but they don't work either. :-( |
| 23:11.53 | Kevin2 | This machine I'm on now is realllllllly slow. |
| 23:12.50 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:13.05 | cr2 | should i send the haret patches to the list ? |
| 23:13.21 | Kevin2 | Yeah - that would be good |
| 23:15.37 | cr2 | can you check the linload.exe ? |
| 23:16.17 | Kevin2 | Ok |
| 23:17.28 | cr2 | i need to do something about porting the pxa2xx-specific code, and the basic asic3 dump. |
| 23:18.14 | Kevin2 | How can you run linux with mmu still on? |
| 23:19.05 | cr2 | i didn't look at his patches in big detail, but that's what he has said. |
| 23:19.17 | cr2 | i'm looking for the link |
| 23:20.23 | cr2 | http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
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| 23:30.02 | cr2 | Kevin2: haret@handhelds.org ? |
| 23:37.51 | Kevin2 | Yes |
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| 23:38.58 | cr2 | sent |
| 23:44.32 | Kevin2 | Haret list is slow. |
| 23:56.44 | tsdogs_ | cr2: resynced xanadux roadmap version to mainline (now If I keed it updated it's easyer) Hope I haven't broken anything ;) |
| 23:57.42 | cr2 | tsdogs_: i'll check |