| 00:02.11 | cr2 | ======== Connecting to haret ======== |
| 00:02.11 | cr2 | Minimal virtual address: 00010000, maximal virtual address: 7FFFFFFF |
| 00:02.11 | cr2 | Detected machine Loox5xx/PXA27x (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='FUJITSU SIEMENS COMPUTERS Pocket LOOX 5xx') |
| 00:02.11 | cr2 | CPU is Intel ARM arch 5TE revision 0 product 17 stepping 7 running in system mode |
| 00:02.11 | cr2 | Enter 'HELP' for a short command summary. |
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| 00:03.09 | dcordes_ | Haret is not running in 'system' mode. Major functionality will not be present. |
| 00:03.10 | dcordes_ | Exception on cpu id detect |
| 00:03.10 | dcordes_ | Welcome, this is HaRET pre-0.5.2-20080304_084227 running on WindowsCE v5.2 |
| 00:03.10 | dcordes_ | Minimal virtual address: 00010000, maximal virtual address: 7FFFFFFF |
| 00:03.10 | dcordes_ | Detected machine Default/generic (Plat='SmartPhone' OEM='HP iPAQ 514 Voice Messenger') |
| 00:03.10 | dcordes_ | CPU is ? running in user mode |
| 00:03.12 | dcordes_ | Enter 'HELP' for a short command summary. |
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| 00:04.51 | dcordes_ | cr2, early log http://pastebin.com/m4064ff3c |
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| 00:06.47 | cr2 | Old KMode was 0 |
| 00:06.52 | cr2 | it's user mode |
| 00:07.34 | cr2 | CPU is ? running in user mode |
| 00:07.37 | cr2 | this is bad. |
| 00:07.48 | cr2 | ? and user |
| 00:07.50 | ASPj | I guessed so |
| 00:08.09 | cr2 | Haret is not running in 'system' mode. Major functionality will not be present. |
| 00:08.48 | cr2 | ok, you can't examine the memory without knowing the cpu type... |
| 00:09.20 | cr2 | since it's a "SmartPhone", it probably locked out nonsigned apps. |
| 00:10.02 | cr2 | you can sign haret (nontrivial), or disable this check by editing registry (i think) |
| 00:10.25 | ASPj | editing registry should be too hard |
| 00:10.36 | cr2 | signing is even more complex. |
| 00:10.38 | dcordes_ | PHM RegEdit |
| 00:10.58 | cr2 | because you don't know the htc key :) |
| 00:11.36 | cr2 | usually a user key is installed |
| 00:11.41 | cr2 | if it's possible. |
| 00:12.09 | ASPj | well, i can easily access the registry with total commander on the phone |
| 00:12.35 | ASPj | if its really a registry thing, i just need to know where to edit |
| 00:12.48 | cr2 | i don't remember the exact details, check xda-dev |
| 00:15.11 | dcordes_ | ASPj, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ApplicationUnlocking |
| 00:15.35 | ASPj | thx |
| 00:17.02 | cr2 | wow, i can set power now. |
| 00:19.21 | dcordes_ | cr2, which machine? |
| 00:21.15 | cr2 | with a haret command |
| 00:23.14 | ASPj | hm, cant set the registry value, access denied |
| 00:24.15 | cr2 | ok, this time they did it right. |
| 00:24.47 | cr2 | this is an omap850 phone ? |
| 00:25.10 | dcordes_ | nods |
| 00:25.56 | dcordes_ | http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=713 |
| 00:26.09 | ASPj | yes it is |
| 00:26.13 | ASPj | i keep trying |
| 00:26.33 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:26.35 | cr2 | ROM capacity: 128 MB |
| 00:26.42 | cr2 | what kind of device is that ? |
| 00:27.09 | cr2 | hm. you can also try testwm5 |
| 00:27.18 | cr2 | wait. |
| 00:27.27 | cr2 | try 'ps' and 'lsmod' in haret |
| 00:27.40 | ASPj | hp ipaq 514 voice messenger |
| 00:27.55 | ASPj | that should already be somewhere in the haret logfile |
| 00:27.59 | cr2 | device=128MB rom. |
| 00:28.01 | ASPj | and btw, KILL didnt work ;) |
| 00:28.25 | ASPj | http://pastebin.com/m4064ff3c |
| 00:28.25 | ASPj | here is the link again |
| 00:29.04 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:29.12 | cr2 | what about ps,lsmod ? |
| 00:29.36 | ASPj | it works and you can find its output in the logfile, just scroll down |
| 00:30.31 | ASPj | pretty much at the end |
| 00:30.56 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:32.01 | dcordes_ | HaRET(34)# ps, HaRET(18)# lsmod |
| 00:34.07 | cr2 | eaglend5sdio.dll |
| 00:36.32 | cr2 | http://www.pudn.com/downloads76/sourcecode/embed/detail284837.html |
| 00:37.13 | dcordes_ | Marvell 88W8686 ? |
| 00:37.40 | ASPj | thank god my GF is chinese |
| 00:38.44 | dcordes_ | ç«é
hm |
| 00:38.58 | ASPj | ^ lol |
| 00:39.01 | cr2 | so it should be Marvell 88W8686 wifi ? |
| 00:39.13 | cr2 | utf8 rules |
| 00:39.30 | ASPj | Well, the wifi pretty much SUCKS in this phone |
| 00:39.45 | dcordes_ | Wireless LAN: 802.11b, 802.11g is what pda db says |
| 00:40.12 | ASPj | at least now I got the source code to that mess :D |
| 00:40.16 | dcordes_ | ASPj, I somehow doubt it is hardware issue ^^ |
| 00:40.30 | ASPj | yea, its no hardware issue |
| 00:40.33 | ASPj | thats for sure |
| 00:41.00 | cr2 | ASPj: if it's also connected over SPI like at this pudn link, it will suck ;) |
| 00:41.06 | cr2 | http://www.pudn.com/downloads97/sourcecode/embed/detail396197.html |
| 00:41.12 | cr2 | here is the linux driver |
| 00:42.06 | swc666 | ASPj: which phone are you using? |
| 00:42.19 | cr2 | hmm. how to grab the archive ? |
| 00:43.05 | ASPj | ä¸è½½ = download |
| 00:43.25 | ASPj | see, I told you, thank god I learned a bit chinese :D |
| 00:43.26 | dcordes_ | register pls |
| 00:43.52 | cr2 | :D |
| 00:44.09 | ASPj | yep |
| 00:44.14 | dcordes_ | ASPj, ah you are showing off. it has that green arrow ;P |
| 00:45.04 | ASPj | people, pls, I want that fucking windows to die as fast as possible :D |
| 00:45.43 | ASPj | anyone knows a way to get that stupid 1 into the registry? |
| 00:48.04 | tsdogs | ASPj: (If you are not able to run any unsigned program to change your registry, try MobileRegistryEditor, ... |
| 00:48.17 | tsdogs | though u need activesync and win :( |
| 00:48.27 | ASPj | dont have |
| 00:49.44 | ASPj | the thing is, I CAN run any program, but I cannot write the registry values |
| 00:50.04 | ASPj | does this tool really help in this case? |
| 00:56.23 | cr2 | oh. 2:00 already. |
| 00:56.27 | cr2 | good night. |
| 00:56.44 | dcordes_ | cr2, good night |
| 00:57.16 | ASPj | gnite |
| 01:20.24 | ASPj | hm, now I got that 1 in the registry, but haret still doesn't start in System mode |
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| 10:11.06 | k34sD | BabelO|mobile, there are you? |
| 10:23.59 | k34sD | currently only htc artemis that does not support linux? |
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| 10:30.30 | AlGe | Hi, Babelo |
| 10:30.47 | AlGe | just tried your image :-) |
| 10:31.13 | BabelO | hi AlGe |
| 10:31.19 | BabelO | AlGe: does it works ? |
| 10:31.34 | AlGe | yes and sometimes no |
| 10:31.52 | BabelO | AlGe: yes i know, i ve to do more works on modem |
| 10:32.26 | AlGe | I need a bit luck to get qtopia starting, first time worked out of the box, second boot hangs on message "no network" and leaves quicklaunch as zombie |
| 10:32.32 | BabelO | AlGe: do you have sound once you set mixer with alsamixer |
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| 10:33.23 | BabelO | AlGe: ok, when it display no network, and you have no seem card, you have to edit qpe in init.d and set VENDOR to no same for device |
| 10:33.25 | AlGe | I got not as far to test this. (I could test itr on the first boot, but now I restarted with a newly formatted image and tsill can not get arounf "no betwork ...) |
| 10:33.35 | Heini62 | hi @ all |
| 10:33.48 | BabelO | hi Heini62 |
| 10:34.50 | BabelO | AlGe: my BA need to boot twice under wince, because first time it never start network properly, i can see that on boot screen where it does not display radio rom version |
| 10:35.15 | Heini62 | ;) playing arround with the openmoku stuff. is there a way to install additional software to my htc magican phone? |
| 10:36.01 | AlGe | Babelo: ok, I try , didnt look carefully enough to remember boot message ... |
| 10:37.57 | AlGe | Babelo: Is that qtopia some stripped down smartphone version only? It is very different from (ok very old) Qtopia on my Sharp SL6000? |
| 10:37.58 | BabelO | k34sD: hi, htc running omap850 are still in development |
| 10:38.32 | BabelO | AlGe: yes it is the qtopia phone edition, only gpl since september last year |
| 10:39.58 | AlGe | Babelo: I think you should add "auto usb0" to your shipped /etc/network/interfaces :-) |
| 10:40.50 | AlGe | Babelo: yes, booting wince twice seemd to help. |
| 10:40.51 | BabelO | AlGe: no :) |
| 10:41.09 | BabelO | AlGe: if you go in settings->internet-> add ethernet interface |
| 10:41.18 | k34sD | BabelO, I found a guy who on a htc p3300 was able to put suse |
| 10:41.28 | BabelO | AlGe: then set your network, you can just ifup by clicking on it |
| 10:41.48 | BabelO | k34sD: really ? do you have a link ? |
| 10:42.01 | k34sD | Babel0, one moment |
| 10:42.44 | BabelO | k34sD: anyway kernel is not stable and no touchscreen |
| 10:43.02 | AlGe | Babelo: yes, but it only helps if qpe starts correctly :-) |
| 10:43.16 | k34sD | Babel0, http://linux.wordpress.com/2007/04/29/pics-my-htc-artemis-runnig-suse-linux/ |
| 10:43.30 | BabelO | AlGe: yes, else you have to edit your partition, with sd card reader |
| 10:43.48 | AlGe | yes, no problem ... :-) |
| 10:44.37 | BabelO | k34sD: this guiy should speak to cr2 to learn him gimp :) |
| 10:44.46 | k34sD | BabelO, ;) |
| 10:46.00 | BabelO | k34sD: else if it is true, i wait for the video :) |
| 10:47.15 | k34sD | BabelO, i sent a mail. Who knows if it meets |
| 10:47.22 | k34sD | :) |
| 10:49.29 | k34sD | Babel0, I followed this guide: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/O.P.I.E-II/README |
| 10:50.20 | k34sD | Once linload.exe start from the bot but then I left the screen as if he were loading. |
| 10:55.03 | BabelO | k34sD: on your magician ? you have one too ? |
| 10:57.12 | AlGe | Babelo: there is no sound module loaded after startup, had to modprobe snd-soc-blueangel manually ... |
| 10:57.23 | k34sD | Babel0, I have Artemis. But when linload start from the boot linux. I think you can install it. |
| 10:57.39 | BabelO | AlGe: ah ah, i do image quickly yesturday, have to change my bb file |
| 10:58.15 | BabelO | k34sD: this linload cannot boot on your artemis, that is not possible, not same processor are running |
| 10:58.43 | AlGe | Babelo: :-) , and alsamixer doesnt run because there are no terminal types available ... setting TERM to vt100 doesnt help |
| 10:59.18 | BabelO | AlGe: first time i see this, let me check |
| 11:00.35 | k34sD | Babel0, know xda-developers? |
| 11:02.09 | BabelO | k34sD: yes i know |
| 11:02.53 | AlGe | maybe you have to inlcude the ncurses or ncurses-terminfo package ... |
| 11:03.11 | k34sD | BabelO, have managed to install Linux on htc universal. Is so different from other models? |
| 11:04.34 | BabelO | k34sD: all model are different , and each model need a specific linux kernel |
| 11:05.39 | AlGe | Babelo: yes, no sound on the BA side while calling, I guess same as with my image without changing that alsa switch ... |
| 11:06.18 | Heini62 | babel0: is there a howto, to set up a buildroot for the magican and openmoku? i know a litte about buildroot's from openwrt devices and avm fritzbox buildroot. like to play with the openmoku stuff... |
| 11:06.48 | k34sD | BabelO, nderstand. It would be a big step forward with flashing linux :) |
| 11:07.09 | AlGe | Babelo: How do I suspend the qtopia image? power button doesnt work, power long press gives "reboot" options? |
| 11:08.28 | BabelO | Heini62: you can if you follow openembedded.org, there is already the machine setup |
| 11:08.49 | Heini62 | thxs. will try. |
| 11:09.23 | BabelO | AlGe: lot of thing to finish ;), i need some help. it is in /opt/Qtopia/etc/defaultbutton.conf i don't understand why apm -s is not called |
| 11:10.08 | AlGe | Babelo: ok, if I can help, I would be glad to do so |
| 11:10.46 | BabelO | AlGe: all is here http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/syscust-index.html |
| 11:10.50 | AlGe | Babelo: did you build qtopia "manually" or somehow under openembedded (this would make thinks much simpler)? |
| 11:11.11 | AlGe | s/tinks/things/ |
| 11:11.45 | BabelO | AlGe: i build qtopia manually, it is easiern=, checkout this git http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Qtopia and use my branch, then download qtopia.net toolchain |
| 11:12.02 | BabelO | AlGe: i explain you, it is just a configure to do |
| 11:12.36 | AlGe | ok, I will try it, but I have to leave now for lunch, maybe this evening |
| 11:15.13 | BabelO | AlGe: ok, git clone take a long time |
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| 12:24.26 | tsdogs | BabelO: hi |
| 12:28.05 | BabelO | hi tsdogs |
| 12:28.24 | BabelO | tsdogs: i m thinking to do a small application to pilot usbstorage ;) |
| 12:28.51 | tsdogs | BabelO: we had same problems with modem on uni, but now it's more stable, u can check what ymeryed has done there |
| 12:29.15 | tsdogs | BabelO: hmm, usbstorage like SD? |
| 12:29.42 | BabelO | tsdogs: i found the modem issue on ba, but i can't explain it. it is related to buffer data |
| 12:30.01 | tsdogs | still the same problem he ;) |
| 12:30.41 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes usbstorage like wm5 storage, actually we boot from sd part, like this we can share other partitions ;) or a single 64M file as a partition |
| 12:31.05 | tsdogs | sounds good |
| 12:31.48 | tsdogs | BabelO: what would be the effort to merge htc phones in qtopia? are they so different? |
| 12:32.05 | BabelO | tsdogs: i pre setup my image to have gprs / usbnet / wifi ok on first startup |
| 12:32.54 | tsdogs | hmm interesting. |
| 12:32.59 | BabelO | tsdogs: nobody is agree :) if you take key driver as example |
| 12:33.22 | tsdogs | ? |
| 12:33.45 | tsdogs | I think I lost something here... |
| 12:34.20 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes for keys driver, there is different point of view, some want to use the kerneldriver from qt , and some other want to use htcbuthandler we have made in the past |
| 12:35.01 | tsdogs | hmm, ok |
| 12:36.26 | tsdogs | BabelO: I don't really see the point here, u are the only one working on ba, goxboxlive is magician and universal, yrmeyet is universal, who other is there? |
| 12:37.22 | tsdogs | hmm just found this: sl5000$QPEDIR/qtopiacore/qt/src/gui/embedded/qkbdsl5000_qws.cppKeyboard specific to the Sharp Zaurus 5500 |
| 12:40.14 | BabelO | tsdogs: does bluetooth works on Universal ? |
| 12:40.25 | BabelO | tsdogs: with standard console-image |
| 12:40.30 | tsdogs | BabelO: haven't tryed it... |
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| 12:45.23 | tsdogs | BabelO: seems to be working, though need to get some bt device :) I have a grps mouse in the car. |
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| 12:49.02 | BabelO | tsdogs: i don't understand, it seem that hciattach is not started, i ll try again |
| 12:50.46 | tsdogs | BabelO: I run it manually (hciattach /dev/ttyS1 -s 115200 texas &) |
| 12:51.14 | BabelO | tsdogs: ok |
| 12:51.29 | BabelO | tsdogs: it is not normal i think |
| 12:57.11 | tsdogs | hmm, something is not working properly: hci_cmd_task: hci0 command tx timeout |
| 12:59.02 | tsdogs | BabelO: if I don't start it manually then bt app says there is no bt available |
| 12:59.52 | BabelO | tsdogs: yoh ! it works ;) my presetup for gprs / usbnet /wlan ;) |
| 13:00.05 | tsdogs | BabelO: good :) |
| 13:12.24 | BabelO | ok now need to understand why hciattach is not started |
| 13:12.35 | tsdogs | hmm can't connect to the PC, though I think it's some config problem (I can see devices though) |
| 13:13.00 | tsdogs | BabelO: u have hcid working? |
| 13:13.35 | tsdogs | U think it should go into qtopia device config somewhere? |
| 13:14.24 | BabelO | tsdogs: no, there is blueprobe script |
| 13:14.33 | tsdogs | hmm enable/disable bt does not work, so probably yes. I could not find any info on bt config |
| 13:14.38 | BabelO | tsdogs: this script setup correctly /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth file |
| 13:14.57 | BabelO | and i think this script miss some line |
| 13:15.29 | BabelO | tsdogs: i think you can test ba you have :) |
| 13:15.33 | tsdogs | BabelO: maybe this: PROBE=no |
| 13:15.48 | cr2 | hi |
| 13:15.58 | tsdogs | hi cr2 |
| 13:16.10 | dcordes_ | hi all |
| 13:16.50 | dcordes_ | BabelO, I just read the log. Do you know how alge got terminal? |
| 13:16.52 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
| 13:17.09 | BabelO | dcordes_: wait i finish a new image, with more setup :) |
| 13:17.31 | tsdogs | BabelO: I think that qtopia should handle bt enable/disable (weren't u developing a net app?) |
| 13:17.31 | BabelO | dcordes_: Alge use usb networking |
| 13:17.42 | tsdogs | dcordes_: having a cable is pretty handy :) |
| 13:17.50 | dcordes_ | ok but I don't have cradle/cable yes |
| 13:18.15 | dcordes_ | BabelO, can you include qpe-qterminal in image? |
| 13:18.22 | tsdogs | I know, but without it hacking is pretty impossible imho |
| 13:18.47 | dcordes_ | yes with wifi it is like roulette to get only or not |
| 13:19.07 | tsdogs | BabelO: btw, when u build qterminal can u check if u get kernel traps too when run? |
| 13:19.27 | BabelO | tsdogs: ok, but i need help from you ;) |
| 13:19.39 | BabelO | tsdogs: how can i just get your application into my git ? |
| 13:20.16 | BabelO | dcordes_: yes that what i want to do |
| 13:20.28 | dcordes_ | great |
| 13:20.46 | dcordes_ | I'm going to breakfast |
| 13:21.10 | BabelO | dcordes_: ok |
| 13:21.45 | tsdogs | BabelO: hmm, no idea on how to merge only portions of trees with git |
| 13:22.33 | tsdogs | btw I moved my apps to the 3rdparty dir |
| 13:22.44 | BabelO | tsdogs: ok |
| 13:29.59 | tsdogs | BabelO: http://www.sfr-fresh.com/unix/misc/git-1.5.4.4.tar.gz:a/git-1.5.4.4/Documentation/howto/using-merge-subtree.txt sounds complicated though :( |
| 13:31.52 | Marex | http://disk.jabbim.cz/marex@jabber.cz/magicianbl.png |
| 13:31.57 | Marex | http://disk.jabbim.cz/marex@jabber.cz/magicianbl2.png |
| 13:32.00 | Marex | ;-D |
| 13:32.48 | BabelO | Marex: looks very interesting ;) |
| 13:35.04 | cr2 | Marex: can you replace the 8x16 vga font with a smaller one ? |
| 13:35.26 | Marex | probably yes |
| 13:35.51 | Marex | but right now Im more interested in looking at the loader itself |
| 13:36.12 | Marex | looks like I got even further than with beetles |
| 13:36.43 | cr2 | load the wince emu rom, then you'll move even further :) |
| 13:37.00 | Marex | :D |
| 13:43.42 | Marex | cr2, .msi ...hmm |
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| 13:53.20 | Marex | damned msi package |
| 13:54.08 | BabelO | Marex: wine msiexec a.msi /extract ;) |
| 13:55.44 | Marex | doesnt seem to like /extract switch |
| 13:59.53 | BabelO | tsdogs: an you zip qterminal from your git please ;) |
| 14:00.08 | tsdogs | BabelO: sure :) |
| 14:01.59 | tsdogs | BabelO: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/qtopia/qterminal.tar.gz |
| 14:02.32 | BabelO | tsdogs: thx a lot, should be fast like this |
| 14:02.41 | tsdogs | yep |
| 14:03.00 | tsdogs | I still have problems with git ... |
| 14:03.27 | BabelO | Marex: look more at /? maybe |
| 14:03.36 | Marex | I just managed to install that |
| 14:03.43 | BabelO | ok |
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| 14:35.21 | Marex | it seems to read pcmcia a lot and then crashes qemu |
| 14:36.13 | dcordes_ | BabelO, does terminal work? |
| 14:36.21 | BabelO | dcordes_: yes |
| 14:37.03 | dcordes_ | BabelO, did you manually add it or include it into your build? |
| 14:37.17 | BabelO | dcordes_: manually add it |
| 14:37.43 | dcordes_ | how can I do it? |
| 14:38.15 | cr2 | Marex: can you disable pcmcia ? |
| 14:39.08 | Marex | cr2, the device image does it ;) |
| 14:39.33 | Marex | cr2, so you cant since it's compiled by m$ guys in that image |
| 14:39.48 | Marex | I can emulate pcmcia, no idea why it crashes |
| 14:40.03 | Marex | but I have to study some more for tomorow's exam ;D |
| 14:40.17 | cr2 | ok :) |
| 14:44.08 | BabelO | dcordes_: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/qtopia/Angstrom-QtopiaPhone-image-080324.tar.bz2 |
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| 14:57.27 | dcordes_ | BabelO, thanks I'm downloading |
| 14:58.03 | BabelO | dcordes_: ok, sound should work, and i add qterminal, and some default internet like gprs setup, you have to change it with interface to fit your provider |
| 14:59.05 | dcordes_ | BabelO, you set provider in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 14:59.29 | BabelO | dcordes_: nooooo, i use qtopia -> settings -> internet |
| 14:59.46 | dcordes_ | that's awesome |
| 14:59.53 | dcordes_ | qtopia seems very stable nice and complete |
| 15:00.24 | dcordes_ | and even better that you made it on top of angstrom. I always thought it was own buildsystem for everything |
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| 15:07.13 | dcordes_ | BabelO, does qtopia run as root? |
| 15:07.24 | Marex | BabelO, Im downloading too :D |
| 15:07.49 | Marex | BabelO, do you think it will be usable on 6515's smallscreen ? |
| 15:08.06 | dcordes_ | 320 240 is very fine here |
| 15:08.12 | dcordes_ | for qtopia |
| 15:10.29 | BabelO | Marex: don't think, you have to try to play with settings |
| 15:10.39 | BabelO | dcordes_: yes it run as root |
| 15:10.45 | BabelO | dcordes_: already booted ? |
| 15:10.53 | dcordes_ | right now booting |
| 15:11.01 | BabelO | dcordes_: ok ;) |
| 15:11.23 | BabelO | dcordes_: first try to make a call ;) then look into settings -> internet |
| 15:11.49 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 15:11.57 | dcordes_ | I hope alsa is cool with me |
| 15:15.06 | dcordes_ | ah non. "No network" |
| 15:15.16 | BabelO | dcordes_: no problem |
| 15:15.22 | BabelO | dcordes_: long press on power button |
| 15:15.27 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 15:15.28 | BabelO | then select restart |
| 15:15.35 | BabelO | restart qtopia |
| 15:15.55 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 15:16.42 | dcordes_ | BabelO, now it works. Is this because gsm was not ready when qtopia started for the first time? |
| 15:20.21 | BabelO | dcordes_: don't know, have to solve that |
| 15:28.50 | dcordes_ | I have a little problem with hanging up |
| 15:28.55 | dcordes_ | but sound is perfect |
| 15:29.02 | dcordes_ | BabelO, will try gprs now |
| 15:31.39 | BabelO | dcordes_: what is your hangup problem ? |
| 15:32.05 | dcordes_ | I got to menu after pressing hang up key |
| 15:32.12 | dcordes_ | and call was still running |
| 15:32.17 | dcordes_ | active |
| 15:32.51 | BabelO | strange, it is ok for me , i press the red button, call stop and then return to menu |
| 15:37.20 | dcordes_ | now it worked |
| 15:37.27 | dcordes_ | I also just received sms perfectly |
| 15:38.04 | BabelO | dcordes_: for gprs, just go to settings -> internet -> select gprs with up /down and options -> edit |
| 15:38.17 | dcordes_ | I'm on it |
| 15:38.19 | BabelO | change your apn, user /password |
| 15:38.28 | BabelO | mine is orange everywhere |
| 15:44.02 | BabelO | dcordes_: to activate it, simply click on profile |
| 15:44.46 | dcordes_ | I have free wap service |
| 15:44.54 | dcordes_ | it is online now. How can I start browseR? |
| 15:45.08 | BabelO | lol |
| 15:45.23 | BabelO | dcordes_: no web browser available at the moment, sorry :) |
| 15:45.33 | BabelO | you see the G in top left ? |
| 15:46.09 | dcordes_ | yyep |
| 15:46.43 | BabelO | now, time to fix sms sending , and some bad thing i do in code |
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| 15:46.58 | BabelO | ola goxboxlive :) |
| 15:47.15 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 15:47.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive: you can try my image on magician, just need to rebuild kernel |
| 15:48.08 | goxboxlive | BabelO: while i moved i had my speakers (hifi) ouside a period over the garage. That was not so clever, i think i have to get new ones :-/ |
| 15:49.13 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes, i can let mine uotside if i want, but temperature outside is more here |
| 15:49.37 | goxboxlive | BabelO: :-) yes, they where out in minus 10 here |
| 15:49.42 | goxboxlive | stupid m |
| 15:49.44 | goxboxlive | e |
| 15:49.52 | dcordes_ | BabelO, can't we use old opie browseR? |
| 15:50.05 | goxboxlive | They play with my hometheater, but in stereo they dont |
| 15:50.11 | BabelO | dcordes_: no, we have to wait qtopia 4.4 |
| 15:50.17 | goxboxlive | dcordes_: diffrent qt version |
| 15:50.34 | goxboxlive | BabelO: do yu know when Qtopia 4.4 is out? |
| 15:50.46 | goxboxlive | a least a preview version? |
| 15:51.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no, ljp say soon :) i hope it is soonish than android, because yesturday, swetland say soon too |
| 15:51.08 | BabelO | lol |
| 15:51.25 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 15:58.31 | dcordes_ | BabelO, people hear me silently only while in call. alsamixer in terminal -> Error openning terminal: vt100. |
| 16:01.12 | dcordes_ | iwconfig wlan0: no such device |
| 16:02.00 | BabelO | dcordes_: pccardctl insert |
| 16:02.09 | BabelO | then iwconfig is ok |
| 16:03.46 | dcordes_ | keyboard works better for me than in alge |
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| 16:04.05 | dcordes_ | pccardctl insert |
| 16:04.11 | dcordes_ | iwconfig wlan0 |
| 16:04.18 | dcordes_ | wlan0 No such device |
| 16:04.28 | BabelO | ? |
| 16:04.36 | BabelO | it works here |
| 16:05.04 | BabelO | try pccardctl eject && pccatdctl insert |
| 16:05.12 | BabelO | try pccardctl eject && pccardctl insert |
| 16:05.48 | dcordes_ | acx is loaded |
| 16:06.07 | BabelO | pccardcl info |
| 16:06.15 | BabelO | pccardcl ident |
| 16:06.42 | dcordes_ | ah eject && insert made it work |
| 16:07.59 | dcordes_ | keyboard driver killed ^^ |
| 16:17.01 | dcordes_ | BabelO, when I try run alsamixer from ssh client it says Error openning terminal: linux |
| 16:18.35 | BabelO | dcordes_: export TERM=linux && export TERMCAP=linux |
| 16:18.54 | BabelO | i ve to look why it is not working now, in previous image it was :( |
| 16:19.48 | dcordes_ | BabelO, it starts now but it's a very strange alsamixer. Has no colour and when I press left/right/up/down it dies |
| 16:20.24 | dcordes_ | I think I have to select microphone=external in alsamixer |
| 16:20.40 | dcordes_ | after this people were able to hear me clearly in algi |
| 16:21.13 | BabelO | dcordes_: maybe try directly to edit /etc/asound.state |
| 16:22.33 | BabelO | dcordes_: did you try tsdogsgames ;) |
| 16:22.47 | BabelO | s/tsdogsgames/tsdogs games/ |
| 16:23.20 | dcordes_ | I played snake asteroids |
| 16:24.24 | BabelO | dcordes_: now you have same and netwalk |
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| 16:25.39 | dcordes_ | ah netwalk I know from openmoko |
| 16:25.48 | dcordes_ | how do you rotate in netwalk? |
| 16:26.36 | BabelO | just click |
| 16:28.38 | dcordes_ | hehe very nice |
| 16:29.01 | BabelO | dcordes_: do you have sound ? |
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| 16:39.38 | p3t3r__ | Hi, I`m sorry, but I've some (newbie) problems. I tried to use goboxlive's newest QTopia image (available) on my (WM6) HTC Universal - but I always get Kernel panic as described here (http://linmob.blogspot.com/2008/03/happy-easter.html). Any ideas? |
| 16:44.02 | BabelO | p3t3r__: where are images ou download ? |
| 16:45.00 | p3t3r__ | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/Qtopia/ |
| 16:49.04 | p3t3r__ | any suggestions? |
| 16:49.09 | BabelO | p3t3r__: ok, how do you install ? you put both file on top of your sdcard on a vfat partition, then start exe file and wait ? |
| 16:49.26 | p3t3r__ | yes. that's what i did. |
| 16:50.11 | dcordes_ | BabelO, I hear the other person perfect but they hear my very silent only |
| 16:50.40 | cr2 | p3t3r__: wm6 enables the pxa27x watchdog, which can't be disabled, and you need to feed it with data periodically. othewise the machine crashes |
| 16:51.50 | p3t3r__ | cr2: ok... but i tried to do the same before on WM5 (T-Mobile branded), and had exactly the same errors |
| 16:54.55 | BabelO | dcordes_: do you change alsamixer like you say ? |
| 16:55.53 | dcordes_ | BabelO, I can start with the variables you told me but I can't use it. It is killed when I press an arrow key. |
| 16:56.22 | dcordes_ | and the silent mic problem is easy to solve with alsamixer for me |
| 16:56.43 | BabelO | dcordes_: i told you also to edit /etc/asound.state, last line |
| 16:56.49 | dcordes_ | oh ok |
| 16:56.50 | BabelO | Internal Mic, set it to external |
| 16:59.12 | p3t3r__ | cr2, BabelO: If you (or somebody else) has got ideas why it doesn't work for me, I'd be very thankful because I bought that device to use it with Linux... |
| 17:00.14 | BabelO | p3t3r__: you have only sdhc card ? |
| 17:01.03 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: It isn't SDHC |
| 17:01.37 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: But I should have some 2GB microSD somewhere |
| 17:02.26 | BabelO | p3t3r__: what is your sd card directory name ? Storage Card ? |
| 17:04.05 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: yes (the german translation) |
| 17:04.39 | BabelO | p3t3r__: ah , that is the problem i think |
| 17:05.25 | BabelO | p3t3r__: do you know the registry key to rename that ? |
| 17:05.57 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: no, but if nobody knows I think I can "google" it |
| 17:06.00 | dcordes_ | cr2, maybe you have had a wm5 rom which also had a watchdog?? |
| 17:06.07 | dcordes_ | p3t3r__, I mean sorry |
| 17:06.57 | p3t3r__ | dcordes_: I don't know it, I am new to this Windows Mobile stuff... |
| 17:07.10 | BabelO | dcordes_: no i don't think |
| 17:07.29 | cr2 | dcordes_: no, this is not a watchdog problem |
| 17:07.32 | BabelO | dcordes_: Storage Card was hard coded, i think goxboxlive_ have a solution now, but not sure |
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| 17:08.03 | cr2 | p3t3r__: which distribution did you use ? and which kernel ? |
| 17:08.58 | p3t3r__ | cr2: I used the image from http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/Qtopia/ |
| 17:10.01 | BabelO | cr2: it is the autoinstall issue i think, it create the loopnack file then mount it |
| 17:11.19 | BabelO | cr2: yes it is thatn it fail just after switch_root |
| 17:11.37 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: indeed |
| 17:16.00 | BabelO | p3t3r__: http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:1NtUfEpwLq8J:www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t51176.html+change+Storage+Card+name+wince&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=fr |
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| 17:19.27 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: Thanks |
| 17:27.11 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: Tried again after changing values as in your link to "Storage Card", soft reset, and tried again, same error... |
| 17:27.46 | BabelO | p3t3r__: now you see all your date under Storage Card ? |
| 17:28.10 | BabelO | the other directory ( translated ) bo more exist ? |
| 17:29.33 | dcordes_ | BabelO, when I press send button after writing sms qtopia freezes |
| 17:30.13 | BabelO | dcordes_: i know, that is why i say sms send need fix |
| 17:30.23 | dcordes_ | just wanted to report ;) |
| 17:32.07 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: It's now Storage Card, no more 'Speicherkarte' |
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| 17:37.46 | BabelO | p3t3r__: both files are une Storage Card ? is there some other file created here ? |
| 17:39.05 | p3t3r__ | both files are on storage card root, and there is now a new file called qtopia-linux (there was one before, but as it didn't work, i deleted it) |
| 17:40.16 | BabelO | p3t3r__: ok, how much is this file ? |
| 17:40.30 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: 100MB |
| 17:41.47 | BabelO | p3t3r__: it seem ok, this file is created for the first stage, then it take while to unpack the bz2 file into |
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| 17:43.09 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: Yes, it said something like that and there was an error message saying 'invalid tar magic' (like all the times before) |
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| 17:46.20 | BabelO | p3t3r__: look like a bad download or upload of the file |
| 17:47.00 | p3t3r__ | ok |
| 17:48.50 | BabelO | p3t3r__: what say your linux computer ? with tar tvjf |
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| 17:51.40 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: on my pc everythings fine |
| 17:51.44 | p3t3r__ | no errors |
| 17:52.00 | BabelO | hmm |
| 17:52.33 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: Maybe it was a transfer error... my cardreader isn`t able to handle this 4GB sd.... |
| 17:53.09 | BabelO | p3t3r__: try to use wm5 storage in wince |
| 17:53.35 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: so i had to use my E680i in usbnet mode... ;) |
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| 17:55.02 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: 'wm5 storage in wince' <-- does that work with linux (i`m on ubuntu 7.10 using standard kernel) |
| 17:55.32 | BabelO | p3t3r__: yes i do with that sometimes |
| 18:03.16 | p3t3r__ | well... nothing shows up, dmesg shows some errors... I might try it on M$ later today, because I think it doesn't work with that SD-Card.. I`ll try my 2GB one... |
| 18:06.46 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: Thanks for your help, I have to leave now, I'll try it again later... |
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| 18:47.55 | BabelO | AlGe: i upload a new image |
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| 18:52.20 | AlGe | Babelo: Ok, will download immediately. |
| 18:53.00 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:08.22 | AlGe | BAbelo: download finished, kernel semms to be the same, no need to redownload? |
| 19:08.52 | dcordes | AlGe, don't think so |
| 19:09.04 | dcordes | you can reuse from previous sd |
| 19:09.48 | AlGe | Babelo: where should I put some test files (jpg, mp3) so that they will be found? I tried similar path than on Zaurus SL6000 (home/root/Documents/Music_Files/) but it didnt find it in last image |
| 19:21.20 | AlGe | I'm hanging again at the "no network" problem with a died qpe, ... |
| 19:26.32 | dcordes | AlGe, for me it works when I hold down BA's power key until a menu appears: I select restart qtopia; after a reboot I got network. |
| 19:27.49 | AlGe | dcordes: but this only works if qpe has not died yet, which seemed to be the case here (tried the hold-power thing too) |
| 19:28.16 | dcordes | it died for me only when I hit compose sms |
| 19:28.44 | AlGe | it dies during startup at the "no network" message |
| 19:29.11 | dcordes | that's odd. I think the no network thing happens because the modem is not ready |
| 19:29.28 | dcordes | Babel0 said he's working on it |
| 19:31.12 | AlGe | i've read this, I'll try to ssh in to look whats up, last time some quicklaunch process hang around as zombie |
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| 19:44.30 | BabelO | AlGe: put file in /home/root is ok, then go to menu -> documents ( bottom right ) |
| 19:44.57 | BabelO | AlGe: laybe difference are our radio rom ? |
| 19:46.47 | AlGe | my radio rom is 1.13.00 if I remember correctly, meanwhile it is running again, but it is somewhat random if qpe start succeeds |
| 19:48.10 | BabelO | AlGe: hmm ok, mine is 1.06 i think |
| 19:48.57 | AlGe | I have to reboot soon anyway, :-) so i will note down my rom versions |
| 19:50.04 | BabelO | AlGe: ok |
| 19:51.06 | dcordes | how can I find out rom version BabelO AlGe |
| 19:51.17 | AlGe | Babelo: could you include http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/kernel-patches/tsc2200-keys-repeat.diff in your kernel for key repaet on front keys? |
| 19:51.27 | BabelO | dcordes: on your boot screen |
| 19:51.52 | AlGe | dcordes: wince boot screen very early |
| 19:52.04 | BabelO | AlGe: ok, i look, what does it do ? |
| 19:52.21 | dcordes | 1.22.0 |
| 19:52.45 | AlGe | Babelo: adds autorepeat to tsc keys (directional keypad e.g.) |
| 19:52.50 | BabelO | AlGe: ah ok, i set it on blueangel_kp :) |
| 19:53.06 | AlGe | but that are different keys |
| 19:53.13 | BabelO | have to do same on tsc |
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| 19:54.22 | p3t3r__ | hi |
| 19:55.00 | p3t3r__ | i'm earlier back than I thought... QTopia runs my Universal right now. |
| 19:55.02 | AlGe | Babelo: why does key or ts event not reenable background light? |
| 19:55.08 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: yes |
| 19:55.24 | dcordes | p3t3r__, nice :) |
| 19:55.37 | BabelO | AlGe: don't check at the moment, sometimes it do |
| 19:55.51 | BabelO | p3t3r__: so what was wrong ? |
| 19:55.56 | p3t3r__ | 2GB SD was the solution... |
| 19:56.18 | BabelO | p3t3r__: And mùaybe the Strorage Card too |
| 19:56.36 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: yes, Storage Card too |
| 19:56.54 | dcordes | BabelO, AlGe first line says R (is that r for radio?) 1.06.00 |
| 19:57.24 | AlGe | Babelo: trying to play mp3: "the media system is not configured to handle this request" |
| 19:57.30 | AlGe | dcordes, right |
| 19:57.57 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: But I can't run any other image... the cab stuff doesn't work, it's always killed after some time... but that QTopia .exe not - funny, isn't it? |
| 19:58.03 | BabelO | AlGe: i think my version has only ogg support |
| 19:58.28 | BabelO | p3t3r__: the cab stuff is like cr2 say earlier |
| 19:58.38 | BabelO | p3t3r__: watchdog issue it seem |
| 19:58.49 | BabelO | p3t3r__: it is just a kernel version issue |
| 19:58.54 | dcordes | then we know AlGe's freeze problem is due to rom version since BabelO and me both have 1.06.00 and don't get freezes, only init problem |
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| 19:59.20 | dcordes | BabelO, did you reconstruct alsamixer in qterminal problem? |
| 19:59.25 | BabelO | dcordes: but Alge radio rom i snewer, so better maybe ;) |
| 19:59.56 | BabelO | dcordes: yes i ve same, i miss some file instandard image, don't know why |
| 20:00.20 | AlGe | Babelo, dcordes: wait until i reboot, i might be wrong with the rememberd version |
| 20:00.32 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: how to you start bluetooth on universal ? hciattach seem not managed by blueprobe script ( i ve added it for blueangel) |
| 20:01.25 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: hmm AFAIR you have to do hciconfig hci0 up or something after runing hciattach |
| 20:01.28 | dcordes | BabelO, did you also notice qterminal is very slow and the cursor is in a wrong position? |
| 20:01.28 | p3t3r__ | BabelO: yes.. so it would be the best to create exe-files for the other images, i guess... because openmoko.cab and qtopia both appear to use 2.6.21-hh20... but OpenMoko.cab does not work (I am really sad about that, I'd prefer it and GPE over QTopia..) |
| 20:01.37 | AlGe | Babelo: backlight on after dim on ts or key event works, after I modify the brightness value in settings/power... from max to near to max value |
| 20:01.53 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: not that problem it works since i change blueprobe script a little |
| 20:01.56 | goxboxlive_ | p3t3r__: whats wrong with my cab file for openmoko |
| 20:02.18 | BabelO | dcordes: qterminal issue are for tsdogs :) |
| 20:02.34 | BabelO | guy, we 've to start a xanadux bugtracker, lol |
| 20:02.47 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: ok,m what did you do to the blueprobe script? |
| 20:03.03 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: wait , i post mine |
| 20:03.09 | goxboxlive_ | ok |
| 20:03.14 | p3t3r__ | goboxlive_: Nothing I guess, but as my Universial runs WM6, it's killed after some time. Your QTopia one isn't - it is started with an .exe |
| 20:03.43 | AlGe | Babelo: before I reboot, how to install tsdogs qterminal qpk, there is no ipkg in the rom and opkg doesnt like the qpk file? |
| 20:04.12 | goxboxlive_ | p3t3r__: thats houldnt matter. Only diffrents with the exe and the cab file is that i have merge all the files togehter and made it installed. They are running the same kernel. |
| 20:04.47 | goxboxlive_ | AlGe: why dont you just make a ipk of qterminal instead |
| 20:05.23 | goxboxlive_ | only qtopia can handle qpk, and it has to be installed from a web server. |
| 20:05.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: http://pastebin.ca/955680 |
| 20:05.36 | goxboxlive_ | thx |
| 20:05.48 | BabelO | AlGe: it is already in image ;) |
| 20:05.50 | p3t3r__ | goboxlive_: Yes. But that QTopia stuff runs successful, and the other stuff is killed by that nasty watchdog ;) .. |
| 20:06.05 | goxboxlive_ | ok i c |
| 20:06.23 | goxboxlive_ | p3t3r__: openmoko sucks on universal anyway, so use Qtopia instead :-) |
| 20:06.27 | AlGe | Babelo: Ahh, I didnt check this :-) |
| 20:06.51 | dcordes | tsdogs, qterminal seems to be reacting a bit slowly for me and the cursor is in wrong place ;P it appends the last written letter about 4 lines |
| 20:06.55 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: There is an update of glibc today in OE repo |
| 20:07.21 | p3t3r__ | goboxlive_: is there a way to run QTopia in Landscape Mode? .... what about GPE? Does it run better than OpenMoko? |
| 20:07.52 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: nooooo, now it compile, i touch nothing ;) you are right yesturday, it was the parallel bb option, so i only keep parallal make option |
| 20:07.53 | cr2 | p3t3r__: landscape mode is always slower on the universal |
| 20:08.22 | cr2 | p3t3r__: because there is no hardware rotate, it's all done in software. |
| 20:09.12 | p3t3r__ | cr2: maybe, but it'd be nice because of the keyboard, even if it's slow as hell |
| 20:09.25 | goxboxlive_ | p3t3r__: yes there is, but the Touchscreen goes crazy so it's not useable. Gpe, is too slow. |
| 20:09.33 | dcordes | BabelO, do we use hardware accerlation in qtopia? |
| 20:09.39 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: Opie(1) ran just fine in landscape mode |
| 20:09.46 | dcordes | BabelO, graphic I mean |
| 20:10.09 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: seems like it's handle better with QT than xserver/matchbox |
| 20:10.21 | BabelO | dcordes: not really we use the w100fb accel driver from kernel, no more stuff, if we want real accel we need to write a directfb plugin for qtopia |
| 20:10.24 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: opie1 must be slower too. |
| 20:10.44 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: that might be, but it's not noticeable |
| 20:11.07 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: ok, i juts did a mtn pull |
| 20:11.10 | cr2 | if you want to fill a line in the landscape mode, it's a quite annoying operation. |
| 20:11.24 | goxboxlive_ | i guess |
| 20:12.11 | p3t3r__ | is ram size a limitation? |
| 20:12.38 | cr2 | sram size is 256K |
| 20:12.50 | cr2 | but it's the same for portrait and landscape. |
| 20:13.05 | cr2 | 256K is not enough for 16bit vga |
| 20:13.38 | p3t3r__ | sure |
| 20:14.38 | cr2 | 640*480*2=614400 bytes |
| 20:17.58 | p3t3r__ | ok. |
| 20:21.27 | p3t3r__ | so if I want to use it as a micro laptop, i have to use windows mobile |
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| 20:29.04 | p3t3r__ | I now tried to boot GPE from *.exe; doesn' t work, but I guess it is another version of haret. But it is funny that QTopia is not killed by that Watchdog |
| 20:35.36 | dcordes | cr2, ASPj has haret in system mode now on ipaq 514 |
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| 20:38.06 | cr2 | dcordes: ok, is the cpu detected ? |
| 20:38.22 | dcordes | he's testing right now |
| 20:41.11 | dcordes | cr2, booting linwizard kernel makes screen turn black after loading w/o any signs of life afterwards |
| 20:43.11 | AlGe | BabelO: when i try gprs in qtopia, do I have to use /dev/ttyS0 or ttyS8 or is qtopia aware of the BA ttyS0 (chat) -> ttyS8 (pppd) switch? |
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| 20:43.16 | tsdogs | dcordes: known problems... |
| 20:43.38 | tsdogs | for 2nd u need to put dejavu-mono fonts in qtopia |
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| 20:43.56 | tsdogs | for 1st issue I still have to find out exactly what's wrongs. |
| 20:44.13 | tsdogs | can u check if dmesg is talking about kernel trap ? |
| 20:44.47 | dcordes | ok |
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| 20:45.34 | dcordes | tsdogs, how do you type a pipe with ba keyboard? |
| 20:45.39 | dcordes | hi ASPj |
| 20:45.47 | tsdogs | goxboxlive_: I have used qtopia in landscape mode today, and it works good (though I need to update mmWidth as I resulted stretched :) |
| 20:45.58 | BabelO | AlGe: you have to let like i setup :) just set you apn and user name the rest is ok |
| 20:46.11 | tsdogs | dcordes: no idea, why is the pipe needed :) |
| 20:46.13 | dcordes | lol keyboard repeat |
| 20:46.15 | BabelO | AlGe: i setup plugin into qtopia to do the thing for you |
| 20:48.23 | dcordes | would be great if one could at least get rid of the keyboard output after a key is stuck |
| 20:48.33 | dcordes | so one could continue using on screen |
| 20:50.14 | AlGe | Babelo: ok, works ( and soon I dont have to change anything, cause my provider (one) has been purchased by orange this year :-) |
| 20:50.40 | cr2 | BabelO: asic3_spi ? |
| 20:51.09 | BabelO | AlGe: lol :) if you found DNS ip i want ;) |
| 20:52.08 | tsdogs | p3t3r__: if u want to use in landscape simply change QWS_DISPLAY in /etc/init.d/qpe and change Rotate:0 to Rotate:270, u probably should need to switch the mmHeight and mmWidth value |
| 20:53.15 | BabelO | cr2: no :( and not sure it can help according to h4300_kbd driver |
| 20:55.58 | p3t3r__ | tsdogs: thank you, i might try that |
| 20:56.32 | cr2 | BabelO: h4300_kbd driver is an incorrect driver |
| 20:57.49 | cr2 | BabelO: the original code of cp15 does what wince does on ba. all other asic3_spi "users" do different things, use different speed settings, send different code to the keyboard controller, etc. |
| 20:58.01 | p3t3r__ | well, though I really don't understand why QTopia doesn't have the watchdog problem on my Universal, I want to thank all the guys that helped me. bye! |
| 20:58.09 | BabelO | cr2: why ? before doing asic3_spi, i was looking at it and compare to ba driver. some thing differ |
| 20:58.12 | BabelO | cr2: ok |
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| 20:58.35 | cr2 | BabelO: because i've looked at the disassembly of all asic3_spi drivers. |
| 20:58.52 | BabelO | cr2: the only spi driver i have ready is the one for omap, it is simple, maybe just replacing funciton call can be enough ? |
| 20:58.55 | cr2 | h4350, sable, ba, beetles |
| 20:59.38 | cr2 | BabelO: the speed divisor setting and some other magic bits need to be considered. |
| 21:00.05 | dcordes | cr2, after setting RAMADDR var correctly display is initialized. he sees backlight and scrolling green and white pixel mashup |
| 21:00.26 | ASPj | yes |
| 21:00.46 | cr2 | dcordes: isn't RAMADDR autodetected for all omap850 devices ? |
| 21:00.52 | ASPj | and when i press buttons wildly, i can see this pixels scroll up |
| 21:00.59 | cr2 | ASPj: can you pastebin the haretlog ? |
| 21:01.05 | BabelO | cr2: do you want my omap_spi driver ? it does not use dma and it is simple |
| 21:01.05 | ASPj | yes |
| 21:01.07 | dcordes | lol even an inpuzt driver present |
| 21:01.23 | cr2 | ASPj: it's known bug. |
| 21:01.39 | cr2 | BabelO: asic3_spi does not use dma in wince. |
| 21:01.44 | ASPj | fine, im just rebooting the phone to copy the log |
| 21:01.50 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:02.20 | cr2 | the core omap850 problem is the i2c cpld. |
| 21:02.28 | cr2 | and then the ts spi port driver. |
| 21:03.02 | cr2 | kiozen: ? |
| 21:03.09 | kiozen | yep |
| 21:03.27 | cr2 | GT is great. |
| 21:03.27 | BabelO | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/955782 |
| 21:04.01 | BabelO | cr2: that why i try to do this driver omap_spi_100k for ts port |
| 21:04.02 | cr2 | kiozen: now i need to think how i'll proceed with the kernel on n560 |
| 21:04.54 | kiozen | Had my dad to test GT. Very interesting experience ;) |
| 21:05.12 | kiozen | cr2: what's the problem with the kernel? |
| 21:05.14 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. you may also look at the locomo SPI driver from sl5500 |
| 21:05.16 | ASPj | here it is: http://pastebin.com/m481aa8ac |
| 21:05.24 | AlGe | BabelO: checked my Radio ROM version again: 1.13.00 |
| 21:05.42 | cr2 | kiozen: what driver should i support next. probably BT. |
| 21:05.59 | BabelO | cr2: ok good idea, i did not check this one, i just look to the more simple driver with register access only |
| 21:06.18 | kiozen | BT is important. Wifi would be nice to have to exchange data, but USB is ok too |
| 21:06.22 | BabelO | AlGe: ok, so you need to debug in qtopia maybe |
| 21:06.30 | cr2 | kiozen: and then what should be done on the qtopia side. |
| 21:06.42 | kiozen | good question :) |
| 21:06.57 | kiozen | I use qtopia without qpe |
| 21:07.05 | cr2 | kiozen: i may tell you what works already, and what one can expect. |
| 21:07.11 | kiozen | ok |
| 21:07.12 | cr2 | in 10min :) |
| 21:07.16 | kiozen | lol |
| 21:07.16 | cr2 | bbl |
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| 21:15.08 | dcordes | tsdogs, [ 485.920000] Alignment trap: qterminal (1398) PC=0x0004dac4 Instr=0xe5902007 Address=0x000cb15b FSR 0x013 <- dmesg is full of such lines |
| 21:16.08 | tsdogs | dcordes: ok it's a general cross compile bug :(, I really have no idea how goxboxlive_ can use it like this... |
| 21:16.39 | cr2 | tsdogs: it's not a bug, just bad coding style |
| 21:17.09 | dcordes | ~lart tsdogs |
| 21:17.09 | apt | eats tsdogs's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 21:17.24 | cr2 | ASPj: i don't understand why you need to force the RAMADDR, i thought omap850 haret code has it hardcoded since some times. |
| 21:17.40 | tsdogs | still makes the app unusable, 'cause device is busy reporting the traps :( |
| 21:17.58 | ASPj | dont know, haret just asked me about the RAMADDR |
| 21:18.08 | cr2 | dcordes: i'd like to upload a hacked haret version, can you check the PASIC3 command ? |
| 21:18.09 | tsdogs | dcordes: u need to lart konsole app writers ;) |
| 21:18.33 | dcordes | cr2, msm or omap hack? |
| 21:18.36 | cr2 | dcordes: there are other new commands there too. to control BT, IR, and device power |
| 21:18.46 | cr2 | dcordes: generic wince. |
| 21:18.54 | dcordes | oh of course |
| 21:19.05 | dcordes | where can I find it? |
| 21:19.10 | cr2 | dcordes: i have some asic3 and pxa specific things, but i'll wait for Kevin2 first. |
| 21:19.19 | cr2 | dcordes: uploading |
| 21:19.33 | dcordes | I will test it on blueangel |
| 21:22.31 | cr2 | dcordes: jornada820.sf.net/files/haret/haret-w.exe |
| 21:26.42 | kiozen | cr2: ten min are over :D |
| 21:27.34 | dcordes | cr2, PASIC3 requires parameters |
| 21:27.57 | AlGe | BabelO: my other BA has Radio ROM 1.06.00, I'll tesst there too, but as thats my everyday mobile with lots of stuff installed I test there only from time to time cause of the long backup restore time it needs afterwrads |
| 21:28.02 | dcordes | tsdogs, sorry. I thought you made console |
| 21:28.10 | dcordes | ~lart console app writer |
| 21:28.10 | apt | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on console app writer |
| 21:29.09 | BabelO | AlGe: you have not wm5 on ba ? ;) |
| 21:29.09 | kiozen | hehe, this alignment thing was a big problem in original QLandkarte |
| 21:29.36 | BabelO | kiozen: what was the cause ? |
| 21:29.36 | tsdogs | dcordes: I ported konsole4, hmm maybe I need to check if kde4.02 updated it ... |
| 21:29.42 | AlGe | Babelo: yes, Radio ROM 1.13.00 seems to be better than 1.06.00 (which fails often to take calls, or dies otherwise) |
| 21:30.24 | kiozen | BabelO: I loaded the img file into memory and used structure pointers to access data |
| 21:30.39 | kiozen | this is a problem for big endian arch in the first place |
| 21:30.43 | dcordes | BabelO, AlGe can I flash wm5 from sd? |
| 21:30.59 | dcordes | I seriously need to get rid of reboot configuration |
| 21:31.00 | kiozen | but also a problem for cpus with strange alignment |
| 21:31.03 | BabelO | dcordes: it seem yes, look at xda-developpers |
| 21:31.04 | AlGe | Babelo: wm5? no both are still wm2003, and I could resist upgrading them, will upgrade to angstrom only :-) |
| 21:31.06 | tsdogs | kiozen: u have a source/line example |
| 21:31.07 | kiozen | like SPARC |
| 21:31.39 | kiozen | tsdogs: avoid assumtions about byte packed structures |
| 21:31.54 | tsdogs | though this might be a problem they are all over the place |
| 21:32.11 | kiozen | yes, that is right |
| 21:32.31 | kiozen | thus either eliminate cpus with a bad mmu |
| 21:32.45 | kiozen | or do it the slooooow way |
| 21:33.01 | tsdogs | kiozen: it's not my code, but how should I change something like char *p = &_image[y*lines] to? |
| 21:33.07 | kiozen | by copying the stuff byte by byte into locla vars |
| 21:33.30 | tsdogs | memcpy u mean? |
| 21:33.36 | kiozen | yes |
| 21:34.01 | kiozen | I used QDataStream in QLankdarte M to avoid that problem |
| 21:34.08 | kiozen | the crux is |
| 21:34.24 | kiozen | that some cpus address 32bit |
| 21:34.35 | kiozen | with each address inc. |
| 21:34.46 | kiozen | thus a char is 32 bit |
| 21:35.01 | kiozen | to do different the arm cpu has an exception |
| 21:35.23 | kiozen | that traps into some code that doing it by shift and mask |
| 21:35.29 | kiozen | but that is slow |
| 21:35.33 | tsdogs | so it should be something like char p[100]; memcpy (p, _image+(y*lines),100); |
| 21:35.36 | kiozen | thus it emits a warning |
| 21:35.48 | tsdogs | ok so that's why it's not segfaulting :) |
| 21:36.16 | kiozen | yes the exception is saving your ass |
| 21:36.23 | kiozen | but it's sloooow |
| 21:36.57 | kiozen | had to learn this my selve twice |
| 21:37.02 | kiozen | the hard way :) |
| 21:37.08 | cr2 | kiozen: i'm back |
| 21:37.13 | cr2 | dcordes: help pasic3 |
| 21:37.15 | kiozen | ok :) |
| 21:37.29 | cr2 | kiozen: reading the log |
| 21:39.52 | dcordes | cr2, http://pastebin.ca/955836 |
| 21:40.02 | cr2 | tsdogs: isn't the _image 4byte aligned ? |
| 21:40.30 | cr2 | dcordes: compare it with the xda-dev wiki |
| 21:40.38 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, the n560 drivers. |
| 21:41.05 | kiozen | tickling the drum slowly |
| 21:41.11 | cr2 | dcordes: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianAIC3 |
| 21:41.16 | kiozen | lol |
| 21:41.29 | AlGe | Babelo: did you eliminate the asic3 demux irq warnings in your image? Maybe this correlates with my "no network" problem ... |
| 21:41.30 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, the subsystems. |
| 21:41.56 | cr2 | kiozen: gps works, usb client works, usb host works. |
| 21:42.06 | cr2 | kiozen: backlight works |
| 21:42.10 | tsdogs | cr2: I think so, it's an array of pointers to class Character |
| 21:42.16 | BabelO | AlGe: yes i remove it |
| 21:42.55 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: around ? i can connect to linuxtogo to upload the image :( |
| 21:42.58 | cr2 | kiozen: the LCD works, but i need to clone the driver from universal, so it can be controlled as other pxa2xx-fb devices. |
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| 21:43.49 | cr2 | kiozen: touchscreen works, the battery monitor is in /sys ... /ads7846*:aux. i think, but you can check. |
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| 21:44.12 | AlGe | Babelo: I will try to put my kernel into your image, maybe that warning is related to this, ... |
| 21:44.56 | cr2 | kiozen: usb charge, AC charge should work, but i've not tested it. there are some other cpld gpios related to the charging process, but i'm not 100% sure of their purpose. it's similar on the universal |
| 21:45.12 | cr2 | kiozen: maybe they do something special in the lowerpower mode. |
| 21:45.59 | BabelO | AlGe: maybe yes |
| 21:46.35 | kiozen | cr2: ok - you tell me when you are finished |
| 21:46.37 | cr2 | kiozen: for BT i only need to modify the gps driver to replace the gpios, so it looks the same as the universal & other brf6150 devices |
| 21:47.17 | cr2 | kiozen: finished is a process :) |
| 21:47.30 | kiozen | lol |
| 21:47.42 | cr2 | kiozen: wifi will not work soon. |
| 21:47.51 | kiozen | finished with your summarization |
| 21:47.56 | cr2 | we need to switch to 2.6.25 |
| 21:48.18 | cr2 | sound. |
| 21:48.39 | cr2 | traced the gpios, but have not tried yet. |
| 21:48.58 | cr2 | mdoc-g4 does not work. |
| 21:49.20 | cr2 | we need to make the g3 code work on ba/uni first. |
| 21:49.47 | dcordes | between 0x10 and 0x14 are inconsistencies. also 0x29 is different in wiki |
| 21:49.48 | cr2 | resume is an unpleasant thing because of the jump to 0xa0020000 |
| 21:50.43 | cr2 | because if your kernel is <2MB your resume may fail ;) |
| 21:51.07 | kiozen | dynamic drivers ? ;) |
| 21:51.41 | cr2 | reflashing a modified ipl may be a better option. |
| 21:51.50 | cr2 | but a rather dangerous one. |
| 21:52.22 | cr2 | i doubt we will really do it. |
| 21:52.58 | cr2 | but then we need some hacks inside the kernel to guarantee the RAM integrity over resume. |
| 21:53.58 | cr2 | if you make an error during resume the device is either dead, or the bootloader will overwrite the 1 MB of ram. |
| 21:54.16 | kiozen | I plan to distribute a rootfs with loadlin.exe for the n560 |
| 21:54.41 | cr2 | the simpliest thing is to load the kernel with 2MB offset, to mimick the wince layout. |
| 21:54.52 | cr2 | but it's a gross hack. |
| 21:55.09 | kiozen | thus things have to work out-of the-box for windows users and linux noobs |
| 21:55.12 | cr2 | we did something like that on jornada820 some time ago for other resons. |
| 21:55.26 | cr2 | yes, i always keep that in mind. |
| 21:55.59 | kiozen | geocachers aren't the tecjh freaks they think they are ;) |
| 21:56.16 | cr2 | if we can afford to drop these 2 MB, then it's relatively easy to do. |
| 21:56.50 | kiozen | drop 2M from 64M ? |
| 21:56.52 | cr2 | what do you think ? |
| 21:56.54 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:56.58 | kiozen | that should be ok |
| 21:56.58 | cr2 | 62MB RAM. |
| 21:57.11 | cr2 | ok, that's the most painless option. |
| 21:57.48 | cr2 | hmm. there must be such option in the kernel config... |
| 21:57.52 | kiozen | yes I prefere solutions easy to use for the average user, and least pain for dev. |
| 21:58.46 | cr2 | # CONFIG_TXTOFFSET_DELTA is not set |
| 21:58.54 | cr2 | i think this one. |
| 21:58.57 | kiozen | the biggest problem will be to persuade wince users to boot into Linux |
| 21:59.03 | cr2 | but there are other ways to achieve it. |
| 21:59.23 | dcordes | cr2, any further testing required? |
| 21:59.28 | kiozen | thus it must work on the 1st try without problems |
| 21:59.36 | cr2 | we need to bash Kevin2/psokolovsky to repair the broken linload.exe generation. |
| 21:59.39 | kiozen | and has to return to wince easily |
| 22:00.08 | cr2 | ok, then loading at 2MB offset is the best solution. |
| 22:00.34 | cr2 | you even preserve the SPL at 1MB. |
| 22:00.51 | cr2 | only the wince kernel at 2MB is replaced by linux kernel. |
| 22:01.08 | cr2 | ok, then there are the LEDs. |
| 22:01.30 | cr2 | do you want working leds ? |
| 22:01.47 | cr2 | because i didn't even look at them :) |
| 22:01.52 | kiozen | would be nice to have fill control |
| 22:02.01 | kiozen | s/fill/full/ |
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| 22:02.06 | cr2 | left green/blue blinking |
| 22:02.18 | kiozen | yes for bt |
| 22:02.43 | kiozen | leds are always nice for user interaction |
| 22:02.44 | cr2 | and right red/green. blinking or not. red+green=amber |
| 22:03.08 | cr2 | yes, but i need to find out if they have a pwm behind. and how to control it. |
| 22:03.11 | kiozen | like low bat, proximity alarm... |
| 22:03.28 | cr2 | there are some devices where pwm is hardcoded. |
| 22:03.54 | kiozen | ok, finished? |
| 22:04.03 | cr2 | ok, so i'll say +2MB loader and resume have the highest priority. |
| 22:04.05 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:04.42 | kiozen | ok I have made some notes :) |
| 22:04.58 | kiozen | battery monitor |
| 22:05.23 | cr2 | i think doc-g4 and wifi are unrealistic goals to set for near future. |
| 22:05.30 | kiozen | there is a way to check capacity via sys/...? |
| 22:05.45 | cr2 | either you look at /dev/apm as it's done on other devices |
| 22:05.56 | kiozen | waht was doc-g4 about once again? |
| 22:05.59 | cr2 | of you watch the direct ADC output. |
| 22:06.13 | cr2 | flash with wince. |
| 22:06.39 | kiozen | ok so no flash |
| 22:06.39 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_DiskOnChip |
| 22:07.08 | kiozen | as long as SD is working in a sane state that is acceptable |
| 22:07.12 | cr2 | yes, only SD or usb stick. |
| 22:07.33 | cr2 | yes, SD is pxamci. buggy hardware, but very well supported in linux. |
| 22:08.08 | cr2 | runs on 2.5.25 and has sdio support. |
| 22:08.11 | kiozen | " buggy hardware, but very well supported in linux." that sounds like "same, same but different" |
| 22:08.19 | cr2 | s/2.5.26/2.6.25/ |
| 22:08.59 | cr2 | there are "hardware limitations", but the linux driver does its best to deal with them. read the driver source :) |
| 22:09.38 | kiozen | lol |
| 22:09.44 | cr2 | therefore wifi has better future here than on asic3-style phones. |
| 22:09.53 | kiozen | but back to bat. mon. If I understand you right, it's readable but might need some driver tweaking? |
| 22:10.22 | cr2 | not driver, you just need some hooks in qtopia to deal with this data |
| 22:10.30 | cr2 | not kernel driver i mean |
| 22:10.44 | cr2 | the kernel does its best for what it should do. |
| 22:11.11 | cr2 | enable the charging, and providing you with the running voltage et al. |
| 22:11.34 | kiozen | ok, if I want to use qtopia API. I test for qpe anyway, If there is no qpe I role my own |
| 22:11.38 | cr2 | it's qtopia task what to do with this data. |
| 22:11.56 | tsdogs | kiozen: it's pretty easy I think: http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=blob;f=devices/htcuniversal/server/htcuniversalbattery.cpp;h=135df18b6d1c23721d24e18ae997fcf9d733a9de;hb=tsdogs |
| 22:12.06 | cr2 | it's a custom.cpp area, look how it#s done on other devices. |
| 22:12.29 | cr2 | the best thing you can dois too look how it's done in opie. |
| 22:12.31 | kiozen | ok tsdogs I'll ask you again if this gets a real topic :) |
| 22:12.38 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:12.54 | kiozen | ok, next charging |
| 22:13.01 | cr2 | kiozen: if you want some fine-tuned power-dependent control you need to do it. |
| 22:13.13 | cr2 | charging is "automatic" |
| 22:13.28 | cr2 | the same as on the universal |
| 22:13.28 | kiozen | so it's DAU proof? |
| 22:13.48 | cr2 | i can't give you a 100% answer. |
| 22:14.03 | cr2 | we think that on BA it is, because the have all the datasheets. |
| 22:14.09 | kiozen | hehe, don't want to get accused for destroying batteries with M |
| 22:14.36 | cr2 | wince destroys the batteries in the uni. so we are in a good company. |
| 22:14.45 | kiozen | LOL |
| 22:14.49 | cr2 | i'm not 100% sure about the uni too, btw. |
| 22:15.02 | cr2 | yes, it's a real problem on the uni |
| 22:15.13 | cr2 | there is even a wike page on xda-dev |
| 22:15.36 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBatteryIssue |
| 22:15.54 | kiozen | ok you can still retard to wince, if you want |
| 22:16.19 | kiozen | next wifi, nice to have but not necessary, we had this alrready |
| 22:16.27 | kiozen | sound would be nice for proximity alarm |
| 22:16.41 | cr2 | ok, we just need to do some tests, and i need to dig deeper into the battdrv.dll |
| 22:16.51 | kiozen | leds important (nice to have) |
| 22:17.02 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:17.12 | tsdogs | hmm, cr2, disabling the LCD makes Uni pretty usable, I had it running for 1 day without suspending anything beside turning off power on backlight and LCD, and battery got down only ~15-20%, this would make it stay up for 5 days... |
| 22:17.12 | cr2 | lol "Solution 1: Buy new battery" |
| 22:17.36 | kiozen | cr2: screen backlight, no screen |
| 22:17.48 | cr2 | tsdogs: there is 1 extra battery-related gpio on the uni we don't support. has to be said :) |
| 22:17.55 | kiozen | there are 3 operational states I need |
| 22:17.57 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:18.14 | cr2 | kiozen: BKL works, LCD - i'll do it like on the universal. |
| 22:18.42 | kiozen | screen with backlight, screen w/o backlight, no screen at all but cpu recording data |
| 22:18.53 | cr2 | kiozen: the backlight intensity is pwm-controlled. like on all other our devices. 0-0xa1 |
| 22:19.11 | kiozen | I would like to switch these 3 modes with the rec key |
| 22:19.30 | cr2 | you may push it higher, but i don't advise you to do it. i've hardcoded 0xa1 now. |
| 22:19.31 | kiozen | ok intensity is a config dlg |
| 22:19.44 | cr2 | key handling is the qtopia issue. |
| 22:20.02 | cr2 | yes, bkl intensity is a continous slider. |
| 22:20.13 | kiozen | right just need a working api to map key event -> action |
| 22:20.27 | cr2 | 0x10 (standard) is a bit dimmed, but 0x48 is rather bright. |
| 22:20.43 | cr2 | yes, talk to tsdogs about this one :) |
| 22:21.04 | kiozen | ok, tsdogs, I will.... you know |
| 22:21.10 | cr2 | M handles the arrow events already ? |
| 22:21.25 | kiozen | should do |
| 22:21.33 | cr2 | yes, so it works. |
| 22:21.53 | kiozen | ok that was my list |
| 22:22.01 | cr2 | bt ? |
| 22:22.05 | cr2 | sound ? |
| 22:22.24 | kiozen | bt = yes please |
| 22:22.26 | cr2 | headset ? |
| 22:22.44 | kiozen | sound = yes please, (proximity alarm) |
| 22:23.12 | kiozen | headset = if it works I have some ideas |
| 22:23.18 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:23.44 | kiozen | there are some caches with sound data ;) |
| 22:23.55 | cr2 | ok, i'll work on the 2MB offset loading, and the LCD driver. |
| 22:24.11 | cr2 | then it'll be usable without the rebooting. |
| 22:24.22 | cr2 | the rest is just the modules. |
| 22:24.43 | kiozen | yes, to create confidence in the whole project is really important |
| 22:24.58 | cr2 | the backlight name is generic-bl, not corgi-bl |
| 22:25.05 | kiozen | the n560 is quite famous among geocachers |
| 22:25.18 | cr2 | i think a generic name is better for the future. |
| 22:25.38 | tsdogs | cr2: yes thx, so we can use same code for many devices :) |
| 22:25.41 | kiozen | thus it's a good base to recrute test persons |
| 22:25.44 | cr2 | yes, it#s a nice lightweight low-power device with an excellent LCD. |
| 22:26.37 | cr2 | tsdogs: i think there is a 2.6.24 patch already, but i've done it for 2.6.21 so we may do the usespace right. |
| 22:26.40 | kiozen | and you can read the LCD in sunlight without baclight ;) |
| 22:27.11 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:27.46 | cr2 | kiozen: you may take care of the n560 wiki page |
| 22:28.16 | kiozen | if I would know what to do |
| 22:28.32 | cr2 | once i'll have +2MB with appropriate resume working, i'll send you the device back. |
| 22:28.38 | kiozen | ok |
| 22:28.39 | tsdogs | cr2: 2.6.24 on uni? In all my code I put a define to those paths, as they have changed many times :) |
| 22:28.49 | cr2 | write some nice notes, question, todo etc. |
| 22:28.56 | kiozen | ok |
| 22:29.00 | cr2 | tsdogs: the asic3_mmc :( |
| 22:29.24 | tsdogs | :(( |
| 22:29.29 | kiozen | good to do anyway, as I will forget most of it after a while :) |
| 22:29.37 | cr2 | kiozen: i have done some extensive gpio logs, and i2c and battery spi logs. |
| 22:29.58 | *** part/#htc-linux ASPj (n=root@p4FC7DD7F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:30.24 | cr2 | so i've done all tasks for which i needed the physical device. |
| 22:31.09 | kiozen | hehe, guess that was fastet than to remote control me |
| 22:31.09 | cr2 | and i've finally ported most gnu-haret things to mainline, and will finish the port soon. |
| 22:31.19 | cr2 | btw, the IR. |
| 22:31.25 | BabelO | tsdogs: usb storage is in the good way ;) |
| 22:31.35 | tsdogs | kiozen, cr2: ok I think I got the point on the alignemnt thing (I'm slow :). Basically I need to access data like _image[x] and not &_image+x, right? |
| 22:31.44 | cr2 | if you'll come up with a sane idea to to manage the switch in qtopia, we may enable it. |
| 22:31.45 | tsdogs | BabelO: :) |
| 22:31.45 | BabelO | tsdogs: i add an option to pilot a loopback file also |
| 22:31.58 | cr2 | tsdogs: yes. |
| 22:32.24 | cr2 | kiozen: but keep in mind that IR and GPS are mutually exclusive. |
| 22:32.42 | tsdogs | BabelO: that's good. |
| 22:32.43 | kiozen | cr2: no one will cry for IR |
| 22:32.48 | cr2 | the serial cable is a possibilty too, but i can't test it. |
| 22:33.24 | cr2 | kiozen: the GSOD is some qtopia/M thing |
| 22:33.26 | kiozen | cr2: can net over USB work for Win32 too? |
| 22:33.43 | cr2 | rndis ? never tried it. |
| 22:33.59 | kiozen | let's see I have to debug this GSOD, |
| 22:34.15 | cr2 | tsdogs: have you tried rndis ? |
| 22:34.19 | BabelO | cr2: yes it works |
| 22:34.27 | kiozen | fine :) |
| 22:34.35 | BabelO | cr2: i tried it on BA |
| 22:34.43 | cr2 | kiozen: the fb itself is ok after GSOD, and the power gpios are not touched. |
| 22:34.54 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. |
| 22:35.12 | kiozen | I will recompile all from scratch one I have the device back, then we will see |
| 22:35.18 | cr2 | kiozen: i can do cat zImage > /dev/fb0 to see a nice picture |
| 22:35.19 | BabelO | kiozen, cr2 : just need linux.inf file from kernel Documentation directory |
| 22:35.43 | cr2 | and i can restart M from usb, so it' not broken really. |
| 22:36.29 | kiozen | we will fix it, that can't be a show stopper |
| 22:36.46 | cr2 | just annoying that you press the ts or push the buttons and nothing visible happens. |
| 22:36.50 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:38.15 | cr2 | kiozen: one extra wish :) pick qt4roadmap into the image too. |
| 22:38.46 | kiozen | ok, I will ask you for compilation aid |
| 22:38.48 | cr2 | that will push me to do utf8 namesearch working. and the route planning. before sommer :) |
| 22:38.55 | cr2 | ask tsdogs |
| 22:39.35 | kiozen | thus things look promissing, I scheduled the real life test for mid of July. |
| 22:40.00 | kiozen | I have to visit some montain peeks in the Dolomities |
| 22:40.28 | tsdogs | kiozen: there are .pro projects (which need to be refined a little for install) in xanadux cvs :) |
| 22:41.27 | kiozen | tsdogs: ok, I will ask you in a few weeks :) |
| 22:41.30 | cr2 | i'll do some real life testing when it'll become warmer :) need more non-car tracks for osm here around. |
| 22:41.36 | tsdogs | ok |
| 22:41.59 | kiozen | there is no bad weather, just bad clothing ;) |
| 22:42.18 | cr2 | snow here = disaster |
| 22:42.32 | kiozen | lol |
| 22:42.42 | cr2 | it's the first day this year that we have snow. |
| 22:43.03 | kiozen | no snow around Regensburg, just fog |
| 22:43.09 | BabelO | cr2: about asic3_spi, what do i use for ba kdb ? generic kbd spi driver from kevin2 ? |
| 22:43.34 | dcordes | in Ratingen some snow available |
| 22:43.54 | cr2 | BabelO: you need a client driver fo asic3_spi |
| 22:44.24 | cr2 | dcordes: Ratingen is not _that_ far away :) and does not have such mountains like here. |
| 22:44.30 | kiozen | ok, have to get up early tomorrow, good night |
| 22:44.35 | cr2 | good night. |
| 22:44.38 | tsdogs | good night |
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| 22:45.40 | cr2 | dcordes: can you control the BT and IR with new haret ? |
| 22:45.59 | dcordes | cr2, did only try pasic |
| 22:46.00 | cr2 | dcordes: it should be possible to do backlight on/off too. |
| 22:46.21 | dcordes | connection open |
| 22:47.34 | cr2 | the 0x10-0x14 are some timing generator params. |
| 22:48.23 | cr2 | given some patience it may be tracked down what's actually happens there. |
| 22:48.58 | cr2 | BabelO: the locomo spi is undocumented and RE like asic3_spi |
| 22:50.06 | dcordes | cr2, how can I check if bt works? |
| 22:50.50 | cr2 | btctl 20 |
| 22:50.54 | cr2 | and btctl 21 |
| 22:50.55 | dcordes | HaRET(8)# BTCTL 11 |
| 22:50.55 | dcordes | line 8: err: service_start('BAG0:') |
| 22:50.55 | dcordes | HaRET(9)# BTCTL 10 |
| 22:50.55 | dcordes | line 9: err: service_stop('BAG0:') |
| 22:51.09 | dcordes | HaRET(11)# BTCTL 20 |
| 22:51.09 | dcordes | bthsetmode(20) poweroff |
| 22:51.16 | dcordes | HaRET(12)# BTCTL 21 |
| 22:51.16 | dcordes | bthsetmode(21) connectable |
| 22:51.25 | cr2 | does the blue led status change ? |
| 22:52.16 | dcordes | no tried all commands again in a sequence with little pause and no blue led visible |
| 22:52.30 | dcordes | I run wm2003 |
| 22:52.34 | cr2 | use only 20 and 22 |
| 22:52.49 | cr2 | worked for me in gnu-haret |
| 22:53.16 | dcordes | gnu-haret? |
| 22:53.57 | cr2 | yes, the old one. |
| 22:54.16 | cr2 | i've just ported the code to mainline. |
| 22:54.36 | dcordes | I see |
| 22:54.55 | dcordes | just turned bt on manually and seem to can't turn it off now either |
| 22:55.29 | cr2 | hmm. strange. |
| 22:55.48 | cr2 | can you check the IR ? |
| 22:57.35 | dcordes | how can I check effect? |
| 22:59.31 | cr2 | the checkbox in connections dialog ? |
| 23:02.50 | dcordes | cr2, I can only see Uebertragen in Verbindungen but only an auto accept incoming connections checkbox |
| 23:02.59 | cr2 | i'll check |
| 23:04.01 | cr2 | hehe. the battery on universal is empty. |
| 23:05.02 | dcordes | is haret supposed to print an error message in case IR state does not set? |
| 23:16.14 | cr2 | if the function call fails |
| 23:16.35 | cr2 | it's just an ioctl on device OBX0: |
| 23:17.28 | cr2 | wince system programming is just as cryptic and hideous as VMS ;) |
| 23:17.48 | cr2 | and inconsistent. |
| 23:18.24 | cr2 | unix is simply sweet in comparison . |
| 23:20.06 | BabelO | cr2: unix is only pipe and file access :) |
| 23:20.24 | cr2 | BabelO: and ioctl :) |
| 23:20.55 | BabelO | cr2: i try to understand why there is to APM on nokia n800 :( |
| 23:21.01 | cr2 | i like it when open(),close(), seek(), powerup(), powerdown() in a wince driver are not implemented. |
| 23:21.17 | cr2 | and there is 1 huge ioctl() with 1000000 cases. |
| 23:22.11 | cr2 | with some cryptic undocumented numbers which are different for different drivers. |
| 23:23.16 | cr2 | it's like the zaurus kernel code :) |
| 23:23.32 | dcordes | cr2, what's wrong with zaurus kernel? |
| 23:24.07 | cr2 | the original kernel from sharp was written in the same way. |
| 23:24.43 | cr2 | there was even some (c) HTC there in the binary drivers. |
| 23:25.01 | dcordes | I see. did you participate in the porting? |
| 23:25.10 | cr2 | and some primitive asic3 support obfuscated as hell. i guess, intentionally. |
| 23:25.33 | cr2 | no, but i had sl5500 pretty early. |
| 23:25.49 | cr2 | still have it, and it's a nice device :) |
| 23:25.53 | cr2 | with 64MB RAM. |
| 23:26.29 | cr2 | only the binary locomo spi driver for SD buried it into irrelevance. |
| 23:26.32 | dcordes | it's the poodle right? |
| 23:26.46 | cr2 | no. |
| 23:26.52 | cr2 | collie |
| 23:27.09 | dcordes | I have c1000 akita |
| 23:27.34 | cr2 | it has pxmci, so the normal SD driver was written pretty fast. |
| 23:27.55 | cr2 | instead of this binary-only shit. |
| 23:31.52 | dcordes | I think it even supports sdhc |
| 23:32.16 | dcordes | at least that's what I read in forums |
| 23:32.27 | cr2 | there is nothing magic about sdhc. |
| 23:32.45 | cr2 | it's just bigger blocksize, not just 512byte |
| 23:33.17 | dcordes | didn't rw speeds increase? |
| 23:36.02 | cr2 | it depends on the hardware |
| 23:36.43 | dcordes | controller or card? or both |
| 23:37.13 | cr2 | if you can write a 2048byte block using the same time as 512byte block, and the transmission bandwidth is ok, then you'll get 4x speedup. in theory. |
| 23:37.28 | cr2 | a card. |
| 23:37.39 | cr2 | the controller sends the packets anyway. |
| 23:37.50 | cr2 | it does not care about the packet contents. |
| 23:48.31 | dcordes | ok. time for some sleep |
| 23:48.33 | dcordes | cr2, good night |
| 23:55.59 | cr2 | good night |
| 23:56.22 | BabelO | good night |
