| 00:01.29 | dcordes | the interesting thing about this is why does X not start automatical with my custom kernel but with the OE built kernel? |
| 00:01.45 | dcordes | if it wouldn't start at all I wouldn't wonder |
| 00:03.56 | tsdogs | dcordes: probably some module failed loading or there is a bug somewhere, I'd check for configuration files, and maybe enable syslog to have the kernel log for it. |
| 00:04.24 | tsdogs | Maybe u forgot to build some module, or the module should go into the kernel ... |
| 00:05.18 | dcordes | tsdogs, no everything is just fine: when I ssh into it (had mistake in interfaces) I can start init.d/xserver-nodm and X appears |
| 00:05.30 | dcordes | it just doesn't start automagically |
| 00:05.58 | dcordes | it looks like even gsm is working ootb now |
| 00:06.52 | tsdogs | dcordes: is the /etc/rc.3/SXXxserver.. there? |
| 00:07.53 | tsdogs | sorry no .3 but .5 |
| 00:07.56 | dcordes | 01256 have xserver-nodm |
| 00:08.09 | dcordes | which is the needed script |
| 00:08.48 | tsdogs | dcordes: what do u have in /etc/inittab for the line id:X:initdefault: |
| 00:08.53 | tsdogs | what is X |
| 00:08.54 | tsdogs | ? |
| 00:10.14 | dcordes | tsdogs, it doesn't show X there are just some runlevels shown |
| 00:10.32 | tsdogs | yes i want to know what it's X :) |
| 00:10.46 | tsdogs | X=5 ? |
| 00:11.44 | dcordes | tsdogs, can't see no X= there :/ sorry I can't think so good it's late |
| 00:12.26 | dcordes | tsdogs, 949714 |
| 00:12.51 | tsdogs | dcordes: let's try this way |
| 00:13.07 | dcordes | oops http://pastebin.ca/949714 |
| 00:13.09 | dcordes | -_- |
| 00:13.17 | tsdogs | do u have id:5:initdefault: or id:3:initdefault: ? |
| 00:13.40 | tsdogs | ok it's 5 so default run level is 5 |
| 00:13.55 | dcordes | what does that mean default run level? |
| 00:14.14 | dcordes | I should read a big manual I guess :) |
| 00:14.15 | tsdogs | ok, maybe doing a "init 3" and then an "init 5" would tell u what's wrong |
| 00:14.20 | tsdogs | :) |
| 00:15.02 | tsdogs | run level is what needs to be run. u have different run levels 0 = shutdown 6=reboot |
| 00:15.10 | dcordes | #init 3 is quiet |
| 00:15.21 | tsdogs | hmm, try init 5 now |
| 00:15.27 | dcordes | nothing |
| 00:15.33 | tsdogs | is X still running |
| 00:15.34 | tsdogs | ? |
| 00:15.37 | dcordes | yep |
| 00:15.51 | tsdogs | ok runlevel 3 is not good |
| 00:16.10 | tsdogs | dcordes: try stopping X and then repeat init 3; init 5 |
| 00:16.27 | dcordes | btw for my comprehension: the runlevel fsckup is due to my module install? |
| 00:16.36 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:17.07 | tsdogs | dcordes: no, I guess run level 3 is not used/ configured, hmm oe is debian based |
| 00:17.16 | dcordes | # /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop ; init 3 ; init 5 both empty |
| 00:17.24 | dcordes | ah wait |
| 00:17.27 | dcordes | x started now |
| 00:18.05 | dcordes | ok x starts on 5 but not on 3 |
| 00:18.30 | tsdogs | on 3 it should stop, but I think on debian 3 is 2 ... |
| 00:18.54 | tsdogs | do u have a KXXxserver-nodm where XX is a number |
| 00:19.23 | tsdogs | in /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 00:19.24 | tsdogs | ? |
| 00:19.54 | dcordes | S99xserver-nodm |
| 00:20.23 | dcordes | I notice my gsm show no reaction after all that restarting now |
| 00:20.37 | tsdogs | ok then probably doing a init 2; init 5 should stop X and start it, though it worked before... |
| 00:21.06 | dcordes | I'll try |
| 00:21.10 | tsdogs | I think u better reboot and check X.log if it's generated |
| 00:21.16 | dcordes | k |
| 00:21.28 | tsdogs | dcordes: don't think it's needed ... |
| 00:21.29 | dcordes | where should that log go? |
| 00:21.38 | dcordes | (log) |
| 00:21.43 | tsdogs | hmm, good question: /var/log ? |
| 00:22.13 | tsdogs | I never used X on my device :) only opie / qtopia |
| 00:23.08 | dcordes | tsdogs, comes to my mind there is some delay problem |
| 00:23.29 | tsdogs | ok, maybe that's the reason... |
| 00:23.43 | dcordes | xserver nodm wants to start too early and there's not the depends ready yet |
| 00:23.57 | tsdogs | maybe simply adding a "sleep 2" at the beginning of xserver-nodm |
| 00:24.10 | tsdogs | dcordes: is it S99xserver-nodm |
| 00:24.11 | tsdogs | ? |
| 00:24.24 | dcordes | yea in /etc/rc2.d |
| 00:24.36 | tsdogs | no in /etc/rc5.d |
| 00:24.50 | tsdogs | u told me that rc2.d had K99xserver... |
| 00:25.08 | tsdogs | hm sorry my mistake :) |
| 00:25.10 | dcordes | nah xserver-nodm |
| 00:25.16 | dcordes | rc5 has same |
| 00:25.37 | dcordes | it's only xserver-nodm in moko images. in good old x11-images you get gpe-dm |
| 00:25.46 | tsdogs | ok edit /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm and add a "sleep 2" at the start |
| 00:26.01 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:26.10 | dcordes | 2=seconds? |
| 00:26.13 | tsdogs | yep |
| 00:26.21 | dcordes | hm I will make 6 |
| 00:26.27 | tsdogs | lol |
| 00:26.44 | dcordes | is there a way to echo something in the first line of a file?? |
| 00:26.46 | tsdogs | put it /bin/sleep 6 |
| 00:26.57 | tsdogs | simply "echo aaaa" |
| 00:27.11 | dcordes | doesn't that overwrite all file? |
| 00:27.15 | tsdogs | or better "/bin/echo aaa" |
| 00:27.35 | tsdogs | ho, sorry missunderstood question |
| 00:27.48 | tsdogs | don't u know VI ? |
| 00:27.53 | dcordes | I'd better have me nano |
| 00:27.56 | dcordes | haha no :) |
| 00:28.14 | tsdogs | it's easy (I use to program with it :) |
| 00:28.37 | tsdogs | simply vi xserver-nodm |
| 00:28.41 | dcordes | it was always a mystery to me |
| 00:28.57 | tsdogs | move the cursor to the position u want to insert the line |
| 00:29.01 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:29.14 | dcordes | under #!/bin/sh I guess? |
| 00:29.18 | dcordes | there is a white line |
| 00:29.19 | tsdogs | press "i" and write "/bin/sleep 6" |
| 00:29.21 | tsdogs | yes |
| 00:29.30 | tsdogs | then press ESC |
| 00:29.48 | tsdogs | now in a sequence ":wq!" |
| 00:30.06 | tsdogs | obviously without " |
| 00:30.13 | dcordes | write quit ? |
| 00:30.19 | tsdogs | yep |
| 00:30.25 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:30.35 | dcordes | I guess that's all I need to know about vi. |
| 00:30.39 | tsdogs | lol |
| 00:30.59 | tsdogs | it has some nice features which other editors miss :) |
| 00:31.02 | dcordes | how to exit w/o write? :q! ? |
| 00:31.08 | tsdogs | yes |
| 00:31.10 | dcordes | yes I know there is vigor |
| 00:31.17 | dcordes | the evil paperclip |
| 00:31.25 | tsdogs | lol |
| 00:31.30 | dcordes | you know him? |
| 00:32.01 | tsdogs | vigor? yes, but never used it |
| 00:32.36 | dcordes | rebooting... |
| 00:32.40 | tsdogs | there's wimgor too |
| 00:32.41 | tsdogs | ok |
| 00:32.46 | dcordes | I installed him ones, crashed my X |
| 00:32.55 | dcordes | s/ones/once |
| 00:33.13 | tsdogs | if it starts I'm going to bed. 1:32 here :) |
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| 00:33.43 | dcordes | same here in .de where are you? |
| 00:33.55 | dcordes | booting linux.............. |
| 00:34.12 | tsdogs | it |
| 00:34.27 | tsdogs | not that far away |
| 00:34.31 | dcordes | k |
| 00:34.46 | dcordes | hi rakeem |
| 00:36.54 | rakeem | Hey dcordes... Hey, Robot, if you're around: I patched the ACX driver from the HH Kernel with the aircrack ACX injection mode patch. It's not great (maybe nothing) at injecting, but it's much more stable in monitor mode (less freezes) and generally... Works sweet in Master mode too.... |
| 00:36.57 | dcordes | tsdogs, looks bad :( I see system console |
| 00:37.33 | tsdogs | :( try looking at log file and see what's wrong... |
| 00:37.36 | rakeem | Bin away for a while... Any news? Any more toys for my Uni? ;-) |
| 00:37.37 | dcordes | rakeem, cool I just got acx working on my ba :) |
| 00:38.31 | dcordes | rakeem, don't know about uni but there is a significant advance in msm machinese. somebody came here today and prsented us haret patches and msm git patches which allowed him to have usb and fb support on his htc vogue |
| 00:38.35 | dcordes | (msm7500) |
| 00:38.35 | tsdogs | rakeem: http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=tree;f=src/games;h=8f59ab17704ade6c25f347679bb1abd9cfaf098f;hb=tsdogs qnetwalk and qsamegame |
| 00:39.18 | dcordes | rakeem, did you commit your acx patches to hh.org cvs? |
| 00:39.31 | rakeem | dcordes: I tried the same on the BA with the same results... There's a link from the aircrack site... Also, FYI, iwconfig wlan0 sens can really help stability. |
| 00:39.46 | tsdogs | http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=tree;f=src/applications/imlife;h=011a368a798f2c7f4e0b5ae1937ae57dda92a0cb;hb=babelo |
| 00:39.50 | tsdogs | lol |
| 00:40.21 | rakeem | dcordes: Oooer, I've never done a commit, I just downloaded the tarball and ran the script, honest! |
| 00:40.44 | dcordes | whre can I find it :) ? |
| 00:41.09 | rakeem | Hang on.... |
| 00:42.14 | rakeem | http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=install_drivers&DokuWiki=c1e43ddbe6a7f0d28ee2b7b200467063 |
| 00:42.27 | rakeem | Click ACX obviously... |
| 00:46.08 | tsdogs | rakeem: against which kernel? 2.6.21 ? |
| 00:46.22 | dcordes | rakeem, did the patch run through proper with hh.org acx module? or did you use the driverthey have |
| 00:46.26 | rakeem | tsdogs: Yes. |
| 00:46.35 | tsdogs | ok |
| 00:47.11 | tsdogs | rakeem: u updated firmware too? |
| 00:47.58 | dcordes | can't you upload the binaries somewhere :) |
| 00:48.45 | rakeem | It's a while ago, but I'm sure it was on the module included with hh.org... I did screw around trying vatious firmware versions, but I reverted to whatever is standard for Uni / BA rootfs images, once I was running the patched driver... |
| 00:52.40 | tsdogs | ok n8 |
| 00:54.49 | dcordes | good night tsdogs |
| 00:55.17 | dcordes | and thanks a lot for your help |
| 00:59.34 | rakeem | My main machine's currently injured so I can't get the bins right now... Sorry... |
| 01:03.54 | rakeem | Can anyone please help with GPR$ on the Uni.... Pleeease! |
| 01:09.55 | tsdogs | rakeem: I guess this should go somewhere in the wiki http://www.pastebin.ca/949778 |
| 01:10.06 | rakeem | Anyone else having trouble with usbserial or Uni? |
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| 01:11.08 | tsdogs | rakeem: there needs to be a modprobe with some code before too afair |
| 01:11.37 | rakeem | Thanks man... What's CU? (As in "OPEN CU AND DO...").... |
| 01:12.00 | tsdogs | cu is a serial program like minicom or so |
| 01:12.46 | rakeem | tsdogs: You mean something like modprobe usbserial Ven=0x0000 Dev=0x0000? |
| 01:13.01 | tsdogs | rakeem: but it's in between :) |
| 01:13.16 | tsdogs | u first need to power it up |
| 01:13.21 | tsdogs | then load the module |
| 01:13.34 | tsdogs | then dial |
| 01:13.40 | rakeem | Gotcha... Can I leave another console running tail -f on /dev/ttyxxx to catch responses in an emergency? |
| 01:14.07 | tsdogs | yes |
| 01:14.16 | tsdogs | at least I think so |
| 01:15.33 | rakeem | What device /OS you running again? |
| 01:16.03 | tsdogs | ? |
| 01:16.26 | rakeem | Uni? BA? Newton? etc... |
| 01:16.31 | tsdogs | ho UNI |
| 01:16.51 | tsdogs | never tryed gprs though |
| 01:17.03 | rakeem | You on Qtopia? |
| 01:17.04 | tsdogs | goxboxlive and cr2 are the ones |
| 01:17.33 | tsdogs | yep, trying to catch segfault with latest sources :/ |
| 01:18.56 | rakeem | Yeah man, cr2 is among the most computer literate people I've ever spoken to. Nice chap too... |
| 01:19.21 | tsdogs | yes, great mentor :) |
| 01:20.45 | tsdogs | ok, said good night 25mins ago now I mean it ;) good night |
| 01:22.13 | tsdogs | ho, rakeem cu must be run on the phone tty, but I think u already guessed that |
| 01:22.28 | rakeem | 0. |
| 01:22.50 | rakeem | Nite! |
| 01:23.00 | tsdogs | lol |
| 01:23.36 | tsdogs | should be ttyS0 at 115200 |
| 01:23.48 | dcordes_ | :) |
| 01:25.20 | rakeem | One last thing, what's the syntax for CU? I just get "type cu --help for help".... |
| 01:25.42 | tsdogs | rakeem: to be hones I have no idea |
| 01:26.30 | rakeem | Cheers... ;-) |
| 01:26.52 | tsdogs | cu -l /dev/ttyS0 -s 115200 |
| 01:26.59 | tsdogs | found in irc logs :) |
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| 08:43.18 | BabelO_ | hi |
| 08:43.46 | BabelO_ | kiozen, Cr2 : there is some end user progress to do on A380 -> http://www.gillesvidal.com/blogpano/cockpit1.htm |
| 08:48.37 | kiozen | lol, where are those stripping stewardeses they always talk about? |
| 08:50.17 | kiozen | BabelO_: btw did you know that even the NASA recommends using QLandkarte? So watch out for low orbiting satelites ;) http://gcmd.nasa.gov/records/QLandkarte.html |
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| 08:53.15 | cr2 | kiozen: good morning |
| 08:53.26 | kiozen | morning |
| 08:53.59 | cr2 | kiozen: these are certainly the America-hating liberals at GSFC who recommend qlandkarte :) |
| 08:54.05 | BabelO_ | morning cr2 |
| 08:54.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes, you are well referenced ;) |
| 08:55.48 | kiozen | what was that: "even if you stick an American flag on a French pig, it won't be an American pig" (but that was from a Democrat senator) |
| 08:55.52 | cr2 | kiozen: fix the frontpage. 76Cx works perfectly with qlandkarte. |
| 08:58.09 | kiozen | I wont fix M$ frontpage, but I changed the index page. will update with next release. |
| 08:59.29 | cr2 | ok |
| 08:59.57 | kiozen | fixed a bug in GT, stop tiles from wobbling around :) |
| 09:01.00 | kiozen | cr2: is gdal able to stitch referenced files to on e big file? |
| 09:01.30 | cr2 | kiozen: http://www.cafepress.com/solopress.66721694 :) |
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| 09:01.58 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, gdalwarp file1.tif file2.tif ... fileOut.tif |
| 09:02.02 | Marex-louise | cr2: hi |
| 09:03.30 | cr2 | hi Marex-louise |
| 09:05.07 | cr2 | kiozen: if you exceed the environment size with the commandline parameters (32K on x86), you should use --optfile |
| 09:05.42 | kiozen | lol, how many gcs do you need for that? |
| 09:06.33 | cr2 | kiozen: tss. not the gcs, but the tqrs... |
| 09:07.07 | kiozen | huh??? |
| 09:08.17 | cr2 | http://modestmaps.mapstraction.com/trac/wiki/TileNamingConventions |
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| 10:45.30 | BabelO_ | cr2: i read the logs, all works perfect with current defconfig, only thing activated that are not needed is hostap and maybe ppp if user don't want gprs, else acx works well with pccardctl tools to insert/eject and power save is well too, when acx card is ejected all wifi is of, only thing remaining is the suspend/resume stuff. I ve fixed it but it seem it does not work on h4000 , but current cvs works on h4000 and not on BA |
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| 12:42.32 | dcordes_ | hi BabelO |
| 12:42.48 | dcordes_ | BabelO, defconfig is perfect |
| 12:43.03 | dcordes_ | only thing which doesn't work on my ba is resume because of boardid6 |
| 12:43.20 | dcordes_ | problem was that I used OE defconfig and not from cvs |
| 12:51.55 | dcordes_ | cr2, btw did you see results of attempt to write kaiser fb? |
| 12:54.23 | cr2 | dcordes_: no. |
| 12:55.02 | dcordes_ | cr2, maintenet le log c'est en course de maintenance |
| 12:55.43 | cr2 | ok. |
| 12:55.48 | dcordes_ | bzo did another haret for kaiser- when I tried to boot kernel with it, screen was painted black for less than a second and haret segfaultet leaving wince in usable sate |
| 12:56.02 | dcordes_ | you could see elements in the bottom taskbar stay black until they were redrawn |
| 12:56.59 | cr2 | there are many things hardcoded in that version of haret, that may be specific to his LCD |
| 12:57.11 | cr2 | not only the fbaddr. |
| 12:57.14 | dcordes_ | bzo explained me that we actually accessed the fb and that the error occured because kernel and somethign else were moved at that same place - he just would have to reallocate this position |
| 12:57.19 | cr2 | does usb work ? |
| 12:57.55 | dcordes_ | he writes fb to kernel postition so I can't test |
| 12:58.09 | dcordes_ | haret is killed directly |
| 12:58.31 | cr2 | yes, you need to load the kernel with 1MB RAM offset. that may be tricky to do. |
| 12:58.34 | dcordes_ | so I can't test usb |
| 12:58.48 | cr2 | does usb work for him ? |
| 12:59.10 | dcordes_ | I didn't really understand honestly - he said it would show or something but he coouldn't quite test |
| 12:59.13 | cr2 | it's just not so easy to boot on kaiser because of the fb position. |
| 12:59.24 | dcordes_ | it's at the end, right? |
| 12:59.43 | cr2 | no, at the start |
| 12:59.57 | dcordes_ | -where one usually puts kernel? |
| 13:00.18 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap |
| 13:00.31 | kiozen | brain yawns, reach physical limits, need coffee.. |
| 13:00.38 | cr2 | yes, exactly where the kernel is loaded. |
| 13:00.58 | dcordes_ | kiozen, no sleep yet? |
| 13:01.20 | kiozen | who needs sleep? |
| 13:01.38 | dcordes_ | people who try to code :D |
| 13:02.06 | kiozen | the problem is that I do not have to try, but actually have to do |
| 13:02.44 | kiozen | python C wrappers around sick UDP/TCP protocolls are so boring |
| 13:03.39 | cr2 | kiozen: a short question about gcps. do you have the keyboard handler ? i'd like to delete the blue highlighted gcp by clicking 'Del' |
| 13:04.03 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll be testing gps on n560 today. the code is ready. |
| 13:05.54 | kiozen | cr2: the problem is that highlighting the gcp does not mean that the canvas has the keyboard focus, too |
| 13:06.18 | kiozen | thus the del key might be handled wrong |
| 13:06.20 | cr2 | kiozen: hmm. middle button ? |
| 13:06.29 | cr2 | yes, i see. |
| 13:06.46 | kiozen | once you click on the canvas, it would be ok |
| 13:07.10 | kiozen | but that is no safe and sound gui programming |
| 13:07.21 | cr2 | i'm looking for some way to delete the gcps 'visually' |
| 13:07.52 | kiozen | the recommended way is a context men :/ |
| 13:08.01 | kiozen | s/men/menu/ |
| 13:08.09 | rakeemflex | Aha... cr2... Just the felllow..... |
| 13:08.13 | kiozen | ~lart apt |
| 13:08.13 | apt | shoots kiozen in his sleep |
| 13:08.17 | kiozen | lol |
| 13:08.29 | cr2 | lol |
| 13:08.47 | kiozen | hate apt |
| 13:08.52 | rakeemflex | Hey dcordes... |
| 13:09.03 | dcordes_ | ~lart rakeemflex |
| 13:09.03 | apt | duct-tapes rakeemflex to the floor and drools on him |
| 13:09.05 | cr2 | hi rakeemflex |
| 13:09.11 | rakeemflex | cr2: I've been given a weird device... |
| 13:09.16 | dcordes_ | ^^ nice welcome eh |
| 13:09.44 | dcordes_ | rakeemflex, what sort of? |
| 13:09.46 | rakeemflex | It's a fake Nokia N95 (really nice build quality).... |
| 13:09.53 | cr2 | kiozen: is it easy to extend the popup context menu ? |
| 13:09.56 | dcordes_ | fake?! |
| 13:10.28 | kiozen | cr2: extending is not the problem itself |
| 13:10.32 | cr2 | rakeemflex: is it running wince ? |
| 13:10.47 | kiozen | but routing the signal to the correct class |
| 13:11.08 | rakeemflex | That's what I said! I actually derided the poor girl for her naiveite, telling her it's not a handbag. But she's right. |
| 13:11.09 | kiozen | additionally the menu must be context sensitive like the cursor |
| 13:11.32 | kiozen | that would need some restructuring |
| 13:11.34 | cr2 | kiozen: yeah, it's the evil of the qt signal architecture. |
| 13:11.39 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:11.49 | kiozen | it's somehow on my list for other purposes |
| 13:12.16 | kiozen | qt signal/slot is not to blame |
| 13:12.18 | rakeemflex | It's not running CE, and it appears to be from the same genus as a number of cut-price (but nice hardware) Korean phones that have appeared in Hong Kong over the last year or so.... |
| 13:12.27 | kiozen | it's more a problem of data encapsulation |
| 13:12.48 | cr2 | kiozen: for me it's easier sometimes to generate some extra gcps and kill them later. |
| 13:12.53 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:13.08 | rakeemflex | It has a touchscreen, camera (crappy), functioning bluetooth, microSD, USB... |
| 13:13.14 | rakeemflex | QVGA I think |
| 13:13.16 | cr2 | rakeemflex: cpu ? |
| 13:13.29 | kiozen | the trolls, sorry nokia, should start to implement focus-follows-mind |
| 13:13.39 | cr2 | rakeemflex: ram size ? |
| 13:13.46 | cr2 | lol |
| 13:13.52 | rakeemflex | cr2: That's what you're here for... ;-) |
| 13:14.19 | dcordes_ | no ce no haret :( |
| 13:14.31 | rakeemflex | Oh yeah, weird, non-standard, slightly flattened USB connector. WHY???!!!! |
| 13:14.34 | cr2 | rakeemflex: yeah, not for the poor girls. |
| 13:14.46 | dcordes_ | the interface doesn't look x11ish does it? |
| 13:15.00 | rakeemflex | Lemme give it some juice... Been in the drawer for a couple of weeks.... |
| 13:15.11 | kiozen | damit, how to do UDP socket? |
| 13:15.27 | cr2 | kiozen: AF_ |
| 13:15.44 | dcordes_ | rakeemflex, you god picz? |
| 13:15.50 | dcordes_ | s/god/got/ |
| 13:16.25 | cr2 | kiozen: SOCK_DGRAM |
| 13:16.45 | rakeemflex | There's pics on the Nokia site apparently... Looks like the real thing. Nice smooth slidy action. The power button on top has become an LED flashlight though.... 8) |
| 13:17.29 | rakeemflex | Trying to work out how to switch it on now...@ |
| 13:17.36 | kiozen | carries 2kg W. Richard Stevens "Programming Unix Networks" from the atic. |
| 13:22.45 | dcordes_ | rakeemflex, that's cool I like the korean designers. all smartphones should have flashlights |
| 13:23.39 | rakeemflex | I only recently saw the Uni's LED switched on. Three years (and three Uni's) and I've never seen the light on.... |
| 13:23.55 | rakeemflex | Anyway, this Kokia thing is dead. |
| 13:24.33 | rakeemflex | Reminds me of my Tornado. Charge circuit doesn't kick in if the battery's completely drained.... |
| 13:30.52 | rakeemflex | I've got to dash out. I've left it charging.... cr2: If you have any quick 'n' dirty things to try, to identify it, just type them here and I'll get them from the log.... |
| 13:34.04 | BabelO_ | dcordes_: you can do virtual BA suspend with your board id 6 just edit blueangel_lcd.c look at funciton suspend / resume and set the gpio switch off in comment. It is not a real suspend because lcd is still powered on |
| 13:34.29 | dcordes_ | BabelO, but rest of the hardware does suspend? |
| 13:43.58 | dcordes_ | BabelO, could you give me boardid6 blueangel_lcd.c ? |
| 13:44.06 | dcordes_ | I don't quite understand what to do |
| 13:46.08 | BabelO_ | dcordes_: yes the rest is suspended , only lcd power is kept alive, someone one year ago have done this, and it seem it works enough |
| 13:47.52 | dcordes_ | couldn't one set a bit for boardid6 in Kconfig? |
| 13:49.27 | BabelO_ | dcordes_: in file blueangel_lcd.c look for blueangel_lcd_suspend and comment blueangel_lcd_hw_off(); sale for blueangel_lcd_resume_pre. But like cr2 say, it is better to do a bitbanging ddriver for this, and use real shutoff |
| 13:50.56 | dcordes_ | I can't bang bits |
| 13:51.25 | kiozen | ~bang bits |
| 13:51.42 | kiozen | apt can't either |
| 13:56.12 | dcordes_ | ~lart apt |
| 13:56.12 | apt | does a little 'dpkg -P dcordes_' action |
| 13:57.16 | dcordes | can somebody tell me what the significant difference between a normal usb host port and a usb otg device is? |
| 14:18.02 | BabelO_ | dcordes: look at wikipedia :) else as i understand OTG is mostly used to connect a camera to a hard drive on fly, it is only possible with OTG, OTG is to connect peripheral together, in this case camera do the host side with its OTG capabilities |
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| 14:25.52 | cr2 | BabelO: this is the really nice old-school software :D |
| 14:25.55 | cr2 | http://pe1chl.xs4all.nl/Softw |
| 14:26.48 | cr2 | not some ruby on xml trails with pyqt4 interface ;) |
| 14:28.37 | cr2 | afair i've only added the color support to sirf.c |
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| 14:29.02 | cr2 | and the gsm.c can be a good base for the ncurses phone. |
| 14:30.10 | kiozen | damn it, no class no inheritance, no garbage collection - that code sucks |
| 14:34.44 | BabelO_ | lol, that's good code, no delay between a touchscreen press and dialing contact :) |
| 14:35.00 | BabelO_ | cr2: i ve an ICOM IC706 somewhere in garage ;) |
| 14:38.07 | cr2 | BabelO_: how does one support ts with ncurses ? |
| 14:38.25 | cr2 | for mouse there was gpm. |
| 14:40.09 | cr2 | kiozen: when you'll compile qtopia for n560, please remove at least the qdsync. don't know about the media server. |
| 14:40.11 | BabelO_ | cr2: yes, i think it is not really hard to use directly tslib to decode touchscreen reinject it as a dummy mouse ? |
| 14:40.36 | kiozen | qdsync? what is that? |
| 14:40.59 | cr2 | BabelO_: how do you differentiate between moving and clicking ? |
| 14:41.20 | cr2 | kiozen: it's 8MB of PDA RAM wasted. |
| 14:41.57 | BabelO_ | cr2: like laptop touchpad ? double click to lock then move ? |
| 14:42.06 | kiozen | lol, ok, it's more a question of where to hit it in the config |
| 14:42.29 | cr2 | BabelO_: good idea. |
| 14:42.52 | cr2 | BabelO_: i guess gsm.c should work with n_tihtc loaded. |
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| 14:43.19 | cr2 | gsm.c + sirf.c will make a nice combination. |
| 14:44.36 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.geoclub.de/ftopic21631-30.html |
| 14:44.46 | BabelO_ | cr2: i can try just for fun this evening, i think i ve already ncurses compiled on BA |
| 14:45.30 | BabelO_ | cr2: i don't remember the name of old graphic library for console mode, is it svgalib ? |
| 14:48.11 | kiozen | cr2: ok disabled qtopiasyncagent for future builds |
| 14:48.26 | cr2 | kiozen: based on the atmel antaris chip like moko2 ? what about the firmware ? |
| 14:48.54 | cr2 | kiozen: ok. because nobody uses it, and 8MB waste is too much. |
| 14:49.37 | kiozen | cr2: crawl back the thread, there are some screenshots |
| 14:49.42 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:50.02 | kiozen | guess there is still too much garbage in my qtopia tree |
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| 14:50.31 | kiozen | maybe I should start my own device tree on eday |
| 14:50.33 | cr2 | kiozen: lol. think about 32 (and 64) MB flash. |
| 14:50.42 | dcordes | BabelO, do you know instructions on GSM in BA? |
| 14:50.49 | dcordes | I don't know where to begin |
| 14:50.54 | Marex-louise | cr2: hi ;-) |
| 14:51.13 | kiozen | cr2: he should have used a better display |
| 14:51.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i remeber well how to drive this kind of lcd with 68hc11 in 4 bits mode :) |
| 14:51.37 | BabelO_ | s/remeber/remember/ |
| 14:52.40 | kiozen | anyway it's a nice project, maybe the next version is linux/map capable |
| 14:53.14 | kiozen | another drawback is the casing |
| 14:53.29 | kiozen | where are thos §D printer when you need them ;) |
| 14:53.40 | kiozen | s/§D/3D/ |
| 14:54.55 | cr2 | kiozen: btw, look at the 'ECEF to LLA' chapter here http://www.u-blox.com/customersupport/docs/GPS.G1-X-00006.pdf |
| 14:55.07 | cr2 | kiozen: to know why i hate NMEA |
| 14:56.17 | cr2 | the poor arm cpu without fp must do it :( |
| 14:57.03 | kiozen | and GDAL is all double, that is expensive :( |
| 14:58.33 | cr2 | yes, we have some space to make things faster there. |
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| 15:40.39 | dcordes | cr2, BabelO is there a way to change tty in ba console? |
| 15:40.47 | dcordes | it always bootup into system messages screen |
| 15:40.53 | dcordes | although I build console image? |
| 15:42.22 | BabelO_ | dcordes: there is chvt tools to change console like chvt 3 to go to console 3, else you can force your boot command line to something else console=tty8 for example, then unless you change to console 8 you never see meesage i think |
| 15:42.41 | noelcragg | has anyone had any luck making a keyboard map for the console driver that allows one to get symbols + the control key? (have both sable and blueangel devices here) |
| 15:43.09 | garyr | Hi all, wondering if anyone can tell me the various status of linux on a hermes? Other than the obvious info at xda-developers and the various files available on handhelds.org, the last herm-linux appears to be from september last year. |
| 15:43.38 | dcordes | BabelO, ah interesting. in default.txt from haret? |
| 15:43.48 | BabelO_ | dcordes: yes |
| 15:44.15 | dcordes | set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=10 console=ttyS0,115200n8 console=tty0" <- this brings me to useless system message |
| 15:44.37 | dcordes | so I do console=ttyS8? |
| 15:45.10 | noelcragg | dcordes: ttyS8 == serial port, try tty8 |
| 15:45.15 | BabelO_ | dcordes: console=ttyS0,115200n8 console=tty0 <- i told you to remove console=ttyS0,115200n8 ... and console=tty8 is what you want |
| 15:45.36 | BabelO_ | thx noelcragg |
| 15:46.27 | noelcragg | dcordes: also I believe the console driver sends all data for tty[0-9] to the same place anyways; if you set up a getty in /etc/inittab for both tty0 and tty1, you'll get two sets of messages overlapping |
| 15:46.29 | BabelO_ | noelcragg: it is like usual linux, works with loadkey de for example, maybe try to look at h4300 keymap, it look the same |
| 15:46.59 | dcordes | set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=10 console=tty8" ? |
| 15:47.05 | BabelO_ | dcordes: yes |
| 15:47.12 | dcordes | ok I will boot this now |
| 15:47.13 | dcordes | thanks |
| 15:47.21 | BabelO_ | noelcragg: what kind of image are you running on ba ? qtopia or gpe ? |
| 15:47.35 | noelcragg | BabelO_: great, couldn't find any keymaps in the angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild disties |
| 15:48.06 | noelcragg | BabelO_: do you have a recommended distribution? |
| 15:48.23 | cr2 | noelcragg: check the kernel source for the keycodes |
| 15:48.23 | BabelO_ | noelcragg: ah :( h4300 use a kbd driver, and it look like the one for ba |
| 15:48.59 | BabelO_ | noelcragg: no, i just need to upload a new qtopia image to linuxtogo, with a preworking qtopia image ( phone call / receive + sms receive ) but it is buggy |
| 15:49.11 | cr2 | noelcragg: then you can create the keymap. |
| 15:49.43 | noelcragg | cr2: thx; when I get a serial cable this will also help |
| 15:49.46 | dcordes | BabelO, unfortunately with this line I also ended in system messages |
| 15:49.59 | dcordes | is there no key combination taht let me change? |
| 15:50.07 | dcordes | in zaurus I do control left right |
| 15:50.28 | cr2 | noelcragg: why don't you login over usb ? |
| 15:50.34 | noelcragg | dcordes: afaik, no virtual consoles in htc driver yet |
| 15:50.41 | noelcragg | cr2: no cable, sadly |
| 15:50.57 | cr2 | noelcragg: no docking station ? |
| 15:51.03 | noelcragg | cr2: nope :( |
| 15:51.16 | cr2 | ok, i'll check in the evening. |
| 15:51.56 | dcordes | noelcragg, if htc or not, it is a pxa device here and zaurus is also pxa. I wonder why I can have virtual console there and not here. are you sure? |
| 15:51.58 | cr2 | garyr: the hermes development is stuck on atiw_mmc |
| 15:52.20 | BabelO_ | noelcragg: remote connection over wifi ;) |
| 15:53.11 | cr2 | garyr: what can be (relatively) done on hermes is the serial port setup. bt, ir and phone AT port. |
| 15:53.28 | cr2 | s/done/easily done/ |
| 15:53.48 | noelcragg | cr2: initial sable results: leds ok, bluetooth driver loads, having trouble with graphic apps yet (the X server doesn't want to start without being able to listen on a net connection; just need to mess with the startup options) |
| 15:54.10 | garyr | cr2: I assume atiw_mmc is for talking to mmc/sd card? |
| 15:54.25 | noelcragg | dcordes: I believe the console driver is the arbiter of whether or not virtual consoles are implemented. Let me go read the source. |
| 15:54.56 | cr2 | garyr: i've committed the code for testing, but it's not complete. the most tricky thing is the irq handler. |
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| 15:55.02 | BabelO_ | dcordes: try loglevel=0 |
| 15:55.06 | dcordes | ok |
| 15:55.20 | noelcragg | dcordes: or add 'quiet' also |
| 15:55.55 | BabelO_ | dcordes: all is in Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
| 15:56.00 | cr2 | garyr: but it may be tested in the full sync mode probably. simply by blocking interrupts, but the error will mean hanged device then. |
| 15:56.00 | dcordes | set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=10 console=tty8 loglevel=0 quiet" |
| 15:56.23 | noelcragg | BabelO_: gotta get my keyboard working before I can configure the wifi, or else it's a lot of swapping this MMC card around for small file edits.... :-) |
| 15:56.28 | BabelO_ | dcordes: and you can decrease rootdelay to 1 or 2 i think |
| 15:56.46 | dcordes | BabelO, rootdelay already 10 |
| 15:56.51 | cr2 | noelcragg: btw, create the suspend shell script on the SD card. |
| 15:57.00 | cr2 | noelcragg: and then run it. |
| 15:57.07 | noelcragg | cr2: yes, doing that presently |
| 15:57.08 | BabelO_ | noelcragg: keyboard ned a little fix to avoid key repetition, i ve started a asic3_spi but never finished |
| 15:57.48 | cr2 | BabelO_: where is the asic3_spi ? :) |
| 15:58.19 | cr2 | BabelO_: it will be used by beetles/sable for gps. |
| 15:58.21 | dcordes | is fastest wm3 booter in west |
| 15:59.13 | BabelO_ | cr2: on my hard drive ;) just need to remove some thing before you look at it, lol |
| 15:59.14 | cr2 | dcordes: you can press 'soft reset' after the screen calibration. |
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| 15:59.25 | garyr | cr2: ok, thanks for the update. Now I have a new phone I want to try and find some time to devote to fiddling with my hermes :) |
| 16:00.10 | cr2 | garyr: disassembling the ati dlls is not an easy task ;) |
| 16:00.31 | noelcragg | back in 60 mins |
| 16:01.12 | dcordes | BabelO, with set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=10 console=tty8 loglevel=0 quiet" I see usual init with asic3 error message, then, psplash, then I end up in system message and only see usual asic |
| 16:01.22 | dcordes | no VT :(( |
| 16:01.34 | dcordes | BabelO, did you ever have a VT on BA? |
| 16:01.39 | garyr | cr2: well, i'm not likely to be able to do that unfortunately. But hopefully I can get to a stage where I can help with testing :) |
| 16:04.20 | kiozen | cr2: is gdalwarp able to split large files? |
| 16:04.51 | BabelO_ | dcordes: i thinkyes, it just depend of your inittab |
| 16:07.12 | cr2 | kiozen: gdal_translate |
| 16:07.44 | cr2 | kiozen: i cut the geotiffs into tiles this way. |
| 16:08.24 | kiozen | cr2: -srcwin? |
| 16:08.43 | cr2 | yes |
| 16:08.47 | goxboxlive | pH5 is not here |
| 16:08.56 | cr2 | kiozen: gdal_translate -quiet -of png -srcwin `expr ${ix} \* 256` `expr ${iy} \* 256` 256 256 AusgabedateiG.tif ${zxy} |
| 16:09.34 | dcordes | CONFIG_VT=y |
| 16:09.34 | dcordes | CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y |
| 16:09.34 | dcordes | CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE=y |
| 16:09.34 | dcordes | # CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING is not set |
| 16:09.34 | dcordes | # CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set |
| 16:09.40 | kiozen | cr2: the result will be referenced, too? |
| 16:09.44 | dcordes | BabelO, at least it is in the kernel |
| 16:10.08 | cr2 | goxboxlive: http://qlandkarte.org/shot.png |
| 16:11.01 | cr2 | kiozen: if the output is tiff then yes. .png will also save some .xml file with the ref params |
| 16:11.06 | dcordes | BabelO, http://pastebin.com/m4680e32c that's my inittab. can you look? |
| 16:11.33 | goxboxlive | that was a good old one :-) |
| 16:12.09 | cr2 | kiozen: btw, this map is not very accurate. i've made an OSM overlay :) |
| 16:12.20 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i liked the northmen :) |
| 16:12.28 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 16:12.59 | kiozen | and look at France, whole France is occupied by the Romans. Whole France? No... |
| 16:13.11 | goxboxlive | cr2: its 900 AC right? |
| 16:13.21 | kiozen | cr2: I tested some tracks on it |
| 16:13.28 | kiozen | wasn't that bad ;) |
| 16:13.31 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes. |
| 16:14.02 | kiozen | and you hav eto take the continental drift into account |
| 16:14.14 | cr2 | LOL |
| 16:16.03 | BabelO_ | dcordes: so i think it is normal, loko at inittab for your host computer, and you see the difference |
| 16:16.26 | BabelO_ | lol kiozen |
| 16:17.12 | dcordes | BabelO, ubuntoo has no /etc/inittab |
| 16:21.16 | BabelO_ | dcordes: unbuntoo is not unix like ? ;) or not sysv ? |
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| 16:21.39 | kiozen_ | cr2: grrr http://pastebin.ca/950445 |
| 16:22.05 | dcordes | BabelO, I don't know. maybe it's plan9 ^^ I notice last line in BA inittab S:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyS0 vt100 |
| 16:22.17 | dcordes | it is the serial console right? |
| 16:22.30 | kiozen_ | cr2: looks like I have to role my own :/ |
| 16:22.36 | BabelO_ | dcordes: remove this one too , else gsm does not works |
| 16:22.36 | dcordes | maybe I chnage that to /sbin/getty tty8 vt100 |
| 16:22.43 | dcordes | BabelO, ok :) |
| 16:23.45 | BabelO_ | dcordes: 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2 for each ttyx youwant to add it is the example of tty2 here |
| 16:25.49 | BabelO_ | dcordes: if mingetty is in your image |
| 16:26.19 | goxboxlive | stupid openmebedded |
| 16:26.27 | goxboxlive | BabelO: have you build with OE lately? |
| 16:26.42 | goxboxlive | BabelO_: ^ |
| 16:26.44 | cr2 | kiozen: is by010_n.tif 8bit ? |
| 16:27.04 | cr2 | kiozen_: gdalinfo by010_n.tif ? |
| 16:27.44 | BabelO_ | goxboxlive: yes yesturday, and all failed , it take me around 1 hour to update my OE with monotone, i try to build angstrom-2008.1, but cannot get it runnig |
| 16:27.44 | cr2 | kiozen_: i did have this problem only with gdalwarp. and gdaladdo. |
| 16:27.48 | goxboxlive | BabelO_: fr.patsebin.ca/950455 |
| 16:27.56 | kiozen_ | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/950457 |
| 16:28.05 | cr2 | kiozen_: maybe you are overwriting the by010_nn.tif ? |
| 16:28.26 | cr2 | it's a libtiff bug on updating the compressed files. |
| 16:28.32 | kiozen_ | cr2: did rm by010_nn.tif |
| 16:29.04 | cr2 | does the problem persist ? |
| 16:29.19 | goxboxlive | I havedone this: | /media/embedded/stuff/build/angstrom/deploy/uclibc/images/mioa701// does not exist, you may need to bitbake it separately |
| 16:29.28 | BabelO_ | goxboxlive: :( |
| 16:29.34 | kiozen_ | cr2: yes, is there another compression mode? |
| 16:29.37 | dcordes | BabelO, no mingetty |
| 16:29.55 | dcordes | BabelO, can I just copy any armv5te mingetty to /usr/bin/ ? |
| 16:29.57 | BabelO_ | dcordes: then add it or look at zaurus |
| 16:30.05 | kiozen_ | cr2: can't do this without compression -> file to big |
| 16:30.07 | BabelO_ | dcordes: yes |
| 16:30.10 | dcordes | ah look at zaurus is very good idea |
| 16:30.34 | cr2 | kiozen_: srcwin is in pixels |
| 16:30.56 | cr2 | kiozen_: don't tell me your image is 333000 pixels wide :) |
| 16:31.38 | kiozen_ | yes, it is |
| 16:31.52 | cr2 | ? |
| 16:32.17 | dcordes | BabelO, those are last 3 lines of zaurus inittab |
| 16:32.17 | dcordes | z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin |
| 16:32.18 | dcordes | S:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyS0 |
| 16:32.18 | dcordes | 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 |
| 16:32.26 | cr2 | kiozen_: -srcwin x_pix y_pix x_size y_size |
| 16:32.36 | cr2 | kiozen_: all in pixels |
| 16:33.15 | kiozen_ | cr2: it half of Bavaria with 1m/px resolution |
| 16:33.17 | cr2 | you get the x_size X y_size pixels image. |
| 16:33.38 | cr2 | hehe. how big is this file ? |
| 16:34.18 | kiozen_ | cr2: 2797389378 |
| 16:34.34 | kiozen_ | the south part is 3075288298 |
| 16:34.48 | kiozen_ | would be more as EADS mpr format |
| 16:34.59 | cr2 | 2.7G ? |
| 16:35.03 | kiozen_ | yep |
| 16:35.21 | cr2 | send a bug report to the gdal ML |
| 16:35.43 | kiozen_ | someone did and was told that this is no bug :/ |
| 16:36.09 | kiozen_ | it's stupid because it is just copying data block by block |
| 16:36.47 | kiozen_ | I have to do this because GDAL Win32 gets the creeps with files >2GB |
| 16:39.17 | cr2 | gdal/ogr has a lot of 32bit bugs |
| 16:39.52 | cr2 | you can't read a .mif file longer than 2GB for no good reason. it's a text file. |
| 16:40.48 | kiozen_ | install all this stuff as compile version is such a PITA on Win32, |
| 16:40.56 | cr2 | win32 sucks, but you know that :) |
| 16:41.01 | kiozen_ | else I would have fixed it allready |
| 16:41.06 | cr2 | fwtools ? |
| 16:41.09 | kiozen_ | yes |
| 16:41.18 | kiozen_ | but fwtools is binary |
| 16:41.18 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:41.46 | kiozen_ | I told Frank, but his >2GB reference works :/ |
| 16:42.25 | kiozen_ | thus I thought splitting the file is fine |
| 16:42.57 | cr2 | can you use a non-tiff format like erdas .img ? |
| 16:43.27 | kiozen_ | hm, if gdal knows it |
| 16:43.32 | cr2 | yes. |
| 16:43.46 | cr2 | there is also pcidsk, but i never used it. |
| 16:43.47 | kiozen_ | gdal_translate xxx.tif xxx.img ? |
| 16:44.04 | cr2 | -of img |
| 16:44.13 | kiozen_ | let's try ... |
| 16:44.46 | cr2 | http://www.gdal.org/formats_list.html |
| 16:45.34 | kiozen_ | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/950476 |
| 16:45.39 | cr2 | -of hfa |
| 16:45.47 | cr2 | sorry |
| 16:46.18 | kiozen_ | hope this works with win32 |
| 16:47.32 | cr2 | maybe i should write the .ozf2 driver :) |
| 16:47.43 | cr2 | but it's 32bit limited too. |
| 16:48.28 | kiozen_ | cr2: 63430560141 20. Mär 17:48 by010_n.ige |
| 16:49.15 | kiozen_ | don't know if that is a good idea |
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| 16:53.56 | dcordes | BabelO, I tried several inittab/default.txt combinations now |
| 16:54.11 | dcordes | z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin |
| 16:54.11 | dcordes | 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty8 |
| 16:54.22 | dcordes | and in default.txt cmdlin=tty8 gave me complete black screen |
| 16:54.42 | dcordes | the same with tty2 shows me a blinking cursor |
| 16:54.50 | dcordes | I think I now have a command line w/o login |
| 16:57.32 | cr2 | kiozen_: with compression ? |
| 16:57.32 | dcordes | can somebody hint me on correct login line? |
| 16:58.52 | kiozen_ | cr2: gdal_translate -of hfa -co tiled=yes -co blockxsize=256 -co blockysize=256 -co compress=deflate by010_n.tif by010_n.img |
| 16:59.24 | kiozen_ | does not support compression |
| 17:00.22 | kiozen_ | I'll make my own block copy tool |
| 17:00.40 | dcordes | cr2, any hint for me? |
| 17:04.27 | kiozen_ | bbl |
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| 17:11.37 | dcordes | Marex, can you help me with VT on blueangel, please? |
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| 17:12.03 | dcordes | http://pastebin.com/m7b2eb2e8 that's my inittab. I don't get login on console. only see blinking cursor |
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| 17:33.58 | dcordes | BabelO, ping |
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| 18:04.52 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: hi |
| 18:05.29 | tsdogs | I have the same problem with OE, and it seems to be the fact that OE thinks that building glibc-2.6.1 failed |
| 18:05.35 | tsdogs | though this is not true :( |
| 18:05.51 | tsdogs | I had a talk last night on #oe |
| 18:12.55 | dcordes | tsdogs, goxboxlive also have problem in OE with gliv |
| 18:13.04 | dcordes | tsdogs, can you help me with VT problem? |
| 18:13.17 | tsdogs | dcordes: I might try |
| 18:13.54 | dcordes | tsdogs, inittab problem again |
| 18:14.03 | dcordes | according to BabelO |
| 18:14.17 | tsdogs | ok, have u looked at X log? |
| 18:14.37 | dcordes | I put X by side now. I would like to have a VT for now |
| 18:14.52 | dcordes | very important to me on embedded device |
| 18:14.59 | tsdogs | dcordes: ok |
| 18:15.08 | dcordes | tsdogs, do you get a VT on uni after boot? (when not starting X) ? |
| 18:15.16 | tsdogs | yes |
| 18:15.23 | tsdogs | as many as I want :) |
| 18:15.25 | dcordes | ok. can you show me your uni /etc/inittab? |
| 18:16.43 | tsdogs | http://www.pastebin.ca/950597 |
| 18:17.29 | dcordes | tsdogs, pastebin.ca doesn't work for me sometime |
| 18:17.38 | tsdogs | lol |
| 18:18.12 | tsdogs | ok this is the relevant part: "1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1" anyway |
| 18:18.43 | dcordes | what does 38400 do? |
| 18:18.56 | rakeemflex | tsdogs: You th'man brutha... I finally got GPR$ up! The rest of you may now sleep in peace. One Unixy question: How do I put a <CR> in quotes? I see minicom comes preset with a bunch of ^M 's in the init string. |
| 18:19.40 | tsdogs | "\r" ? |
| 18:20.17 | dcordes | tsdogs, what's the according default.txt cmdline for haret? |
| 18:20.30 | tsdogs | hmm... wait |
| 18:21.09 | tsdogs | set CMDLINE "rootdelay=1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 mem=64M fbcon=rotate:1" |
| 18:21.26 | rakeemflex | As in "echo "at+blah-blah\r" > /ttyS0 ? Will that do it? I realy need to sit down and read a proper old-chool Unix ook. Also, if any body's interested I've got this interesting fake Nokia I'd like to probe... |
| 18:21.29 | rakeemflex | (b) |
| 18:21.46 | tsdogs | rakeemflex: echo -en "blabla" |
| 18:22.11 | tsdogs | remove the -n if u want a \n too |
| 18:22.32 | rakeemflex | Oh... Didn |
| 18:22.59 | rakeemflex | 't imagine echo having switches... 8) |
| 18:23.09 | tsdogs | lol |
| 18:23.35 | dcordes | tsdogs, why do you make console=tty0 while in inittab is tty1? |
| 18:24.03 | tsdogs | dcordes: tty0 should be any active terminal |
| 18:24.59 | tsdogs | dcordes: do u have /dev/ttyX ? X=1234567... |
| 18:25.20 | dcordes | can't check right now |
| 18:25.27 | dcordes | I got the sd out to edit according to your settings |
| 18:25.52 | tsdogs | well, BA is different. |
| 18:25.56 | dcordes | set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=10 console=tty0 loglevel=0 quiet" |
| 18:26.31 | tsdogs | should be ok (wow 10sec for rootdelay :) |
| 18:26.57 | tsdogs | dcordes: is rootfs on mmcblk0p2 ? |
| 18:27.00 | dcordes | z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin |
| 18:27.00 | dcordes | 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 |
| 18:27.03 | rakeemflex | Does anyone think there's anything weird I should know about running iptables on the Uni? |
| 18:27.03 | dcordes | those are my last two |
| 18:27.07 | dcordes | yes that's correct |
| 18:27.29 | tsdogs | rakeemflex: lol, never tryed it though I think it should just work |
| 18:28.28 | rakeemflex | I need to compile it in yeah? |
| 18:29.46 | rakeemflex | The Uni's is really starting to feel like a proper little linx box now... 8-] |
| 18:29.49 | dcordes | tsdogs, hell yea!!! you da man ^^ |
| 18:29.54 | tsdogs | don't think modules are builded by default... |
| 18:30.15 | tsdogs | dcordes: good :) |
| 18:34.01 | rakeemflex | I'm running a prebuilt kernel at the moment, and the ipkgs are for others... I love switching kernels just when you've got everything perfect... {-( I hear BSD works differently... |
| 18:34.11 | Marex | dcordes, hi, sorry for slight delay |
| 18:34.32 | dcordes | tsdogs, I wonder what did the trick now: the tty0 in default.txt or last line in inittab |
| 18:34.48 | dcordes | I didn't have 38400 ini nittab |
| 18:34.50 | tsdogs | last line in inittab |
| 18:35.29 | dcordes | and why is it in kernel boot line tty0 and in inittab 1? |
| 18:37.32 | tsdogs | dcordes: tty0 = console inittab is running getty on tty1 u can have a new terminal using tty2 and so on |
| 18:37.46 | tsdogs | look at your linux distro, u should have 6 of them |
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| 18:42.16 | Marex | pH5, hi, thanks |
| 18:43.38 | pH5 | hi |
| 18:44.05 | rakeemflex | Hey pH5... |
| 18:44.54 | pH5 | hi rakeem...flex? |
| 18:46.32 | rakeemflex | pH5: Oh yeah... I'm on mIrc on XXXXXXX <expletive deleted> and it's set as a fallback... There's an impostor out there.... |
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| 18:48.43 | dcordes | Marex, nevermind I'm glad I have it fixed now |
| 18:50.29 | Marex | dcordes sorry :X |
| 18:52.23 | dcordes | pH5|A2, can we alter inittab of blueangel so one gets a console on bootup? |
| 18:53.25 | dcordes | pH5|A2, in OE I mean |
| 18:54.10 | pH5|A2 | dcordes: why not just build console-image then? |
| 18:54.28 | dcordes | pH5|A2, I did |
| 18:54.47 | dcordes | for other machines I also get console with x11-image |
| 18:55.06 | dcordes | but htcblueangel doesn't have console on x11-image and on console-image |
| 18:55.06 | pH5|A2 | doen't this do what you want? |
| 18:55.21 | dcordes | pH5|A2, no you boot into system messages screen |
| 18:55.40 | pH5|A2 | dcordes, are you talking about onscreen or serial console ? |
| 18:55.47 | dcordes | and you can't get away from it. don't think that's the purpose of console image. onscreen |
| 18:55.52 | dcordes | sorry |
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| 18:55.57 | pH5|A2 | that sounds wrong... |
| 18:56.37 | dcordes | pH5|A2, would you like to patch? I can post my haret default.txt and inittab with which it works now |
| 18:56.38 | pH5|A2 | x11 should obviously boot into x |
| 18:56.48 | dcordes | it does |
| 18:57.00 | pH5|A2 | console-image should have a working on-screen console |
| 18:57.01 | dcordes | but not with self compiled kernel |
| 18:57.43 | dcordes | pH5|A2, x11-image for ba with OE kernel has working X but no acx100 module |
| 18:57.56 | dcordes | because OE defconfig is dorky |
| 18:59.02 | pH5|A2 | we have to fix it then |
| 18:59.02 | dcordes | and when I build custom kernel it doesn't start X automagically because runlevels are strange so I required a console |
| 18:59.05 | pH5|A2 | and this I don't understand. never had such a problem |
| 18:59.55 | dcordes | me and tsdogs figured it has to do something with the runlevels being changed when you make modules_install to the OE built rootfs |
| 19:01.38 | pH5|A2 | not quite sure how kernel modules relate to runlevel changes, but I'll try to reproduce that over the weekend if you want |
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| 19:02.07 | dcordes | pH5|A2, I think in any case it would be useful to end bootprocess in onscreen console |
| 19:02.42 | dcordes | http://pastebin.com/m9f0e3e7 <- maybe check that later. I don't want you to risk anything on the autobahn :D |
| 19:03.07 | kiozen | sante |
| 19:03.17 | pH5|A39 | dcordes, for console-image |
| 19:03.26 | dcordes | at least for console image yes |
| 19:03.52 | dcordes | pH5|A39, but on other machines like akita I notice the presence of a terminal with login screen beneath X11 |
| 19:04.16 | dcordes | so if you crash X or decide to not like X anymore you still have your VT as backup |
| 19:04.35 | pH5|A39 | heh, I'm not driving :) |
| 19:04.36 | kiozen | cr2: more tps stuff http://pastebin.ca/950647 |
| 19:05.30 | pH5|A39 | dcordes, true |
| 19:05.58 | dcordes | pH5|A39, in your last OE builds, did you notice glibc-2.6.1 failing? |
| 19:06.17 | dcordes | 2 persons here complained about the same |
| 19:07.05 | pH5|A39 | no.. my build is (will be) still running and it went past glibc on tuesday |
| 19:07.36 | dcordes | ok |
| 19:08.54 | pH5|A39 | bbiab |
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| 19:19.04 | tsdogs | dcordes: are u sure u didn't take x11 image and adapted it to console, or messed around with inittab yesterday when trying to make X startup at boot? |
| 19:20.14 | tsdogs | there's no relation between inittab and modules_install :) |
| 19:20.20 | dcordes | tsdogs, no I simpy had an OE x11-image with kernel built with dorky OE defconfig= no acx100. So I make manual kernel and install it to OE x11-image |
| 19:20.41 | dcordes | after that: no more X autostart. only with manual start over ssh (or now on screen) |
| 19:20.59 | dcordes | tsdogs, yes I already figured that by what pH5 said. sorry if I got this wrong |
| 19:21.25 | tsdogs | ok then it's a fact that X11-image is different to console-image i guess. |
| 19:21.25 | tsdogs | ok |
| 19:22.10 | tsdogs | hmm where is pH5, damn I missed him |
| 19:25.47 | tsdogs | dcordes: failing X startup is somehow strange... |
| 19:26.05 | cr2 | kiozen: interesting paper. i'm solving similar math problems but in a different context. |
| 19:26.31 | dcordes | as I say: all I do is "# INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/media/disk/ make modules_install" |
| 19:26.43 | dcordes | after that: no more xserver autostart |
| 19:26.50 | dcordes | I still guess it is either a delay or module thing ^^ |
| 19:27.10 | tsdogs | dcordes: yes I think so too :) |
| 19:27.56 | cr2 | kiozen: compression is supported on hfa: http://www.gdal.org/frmt_hfa.html |
| 19:28.13 | cr2 | kiozen: but there are no geotiff-like tilesize options. |
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| 19:48.05 | dcordes | tsdogs, raising the delay for runlevel containing xserver-nodm didn't work iirc |
| 19:48.08 | kiozen | cd |
| 19:48.18 | kiozen | cr2: gdal_translate -of hfa -co compressed=yes by010_n.tif by010_n.img |
| 19:48.35 | tsdogs | yes, u might want to remove the sleep :) |
| 19:48.42 | kiozen | that works but file size is still the same |
| 19:49.11 | tsdogs | ? |
| 19:49.44 | tsdogs | wrong channe sorry :p |
| 20:06.43 | cr2 | kiozen: strange. |
| 20:07.10 | kiozen | never mind, i can do it in C |
| 20:07.34 | cr2 | kiozen: i still think that stitching the whole Bayern with 1m/pix in one file is not very smart |
| 20:07.59 | kiozen | I want to do the oposite ;) |
| 20:08.11 | kiozen | I want to break the 2 big blobs in 4 |
| 20:09.25 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:10.32 | kiozen | hope gdal win32 can digest them after that |
| 20:13.55 | kiozen | referencing A4 tiles sucks, really need access to a larger scanner... |
| 20:14.49 | cr2 | yes, but they also have distortions |
| 20:16.14 | kiozen | the worst are at the borders, thus the less borders, the better the map |
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| 20:17.01 | cr2 | i'm trying to find out the code which uses gpio 114, 115,116, but it's not easy.. |
| 20:19.47 | kiozen | maybe the call-microsoft-n-tell-them-all device? |
| 20:20.51 | rakeemflex | cr2: That dodgy "Kokia" device is breathing again. It's quite polite on powerup too: USB can be Mass Storage, Webcam or Serial |
| 20:21.05 | rakeemflex | http://www.pastebin.ca/950737 |
| 20:21.29 | cr2 | kiozen: wince says 624MHz too. why does haret tell 104MHz ? |
| 20:22.16 | cr2 | kiozen: i didn't have any problem with the haret on other devices. and this code is picked out the kernel anyway. |
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| 20:22.58 | kiozen | cr2: some bit offset? |
| 20:23.12 | cr2 | rakeemflex: does not look like wince ? |
| 20:23.31 | cr2 | kiozen: need to recheck the code. |
| 20:24.09 | cr2 | kiozen: wince may lie too, but the overall speed is not as it was 104MHz |
| 20:25.11 | rakeemflex | Could be, I've not had a good play with licensed (non-WM) CE devices.... Lemme get it... |
| 20:26.14 | cr2 | rakeemflex: but you can see it in the look-and-feel if it's wince |
| 20:30.28 | rakeemflex | In that case no. Feels like.... GPE? English language fonts are pretty crappy. Multiple Chinese input methods supported. Very limited UI. Bluetooth works, File manager... |
| 20:33.29 | rakeemflex | Oh, and they use the Quicktime logo for the media player. That's what raised my suspicions. It looked weird on it's own without the decorative legal messages.... |
| 20:34.49 | rakeemflex | Oh, it has two SIM slots too.... |
| 20:38.40 | cr2 | kiozen: it's be nice to have a cs2cs widget like one in qgis |
| 20:41.15 | kiozen | one of those ideas deep in the catacombs of my brain is to summon a small coordinate dialog on lineedit widgets, that allows to enter coordinates other than longlat/WGS84 |
| 20:42.01 | kiozen | but it's just an idea, no real plan what is needed or how the gui has to be structured |
| 20:42.26 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:42.56 | kiozen | it's a bit like mobile phones, you don't need them in general, just once a year, but then, yes, would be good to have it |
| 20:44.11 | cr2 | yes, it's easy to remember the latlong, but certainly not the respective GK |
| 20:46.11 | kiozen | GPS_Math_Str_To_LongLat is something in that direction |
| 20:47.02 | kiozen | has only 5 more tiles to reference - got already an aching mouse hand |
| 20:47.38 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:48.09 | kiozen | on the other hand side it's only half of the map, and wrong resolution |
| 20:50.33 | kiozen | btw recommended resolution is 300dpi, 75dpi |
| 20:51.16 | kiozen | never do 600dpi, as this is better than the offset print resolution |
| 20:51.29 | kiozen | it will result into a greasy map |
| 20:52.33 | cr2 | what is the original number of colors ? |
| 20:54.28 | kiozen | don't know, I converted directly into M$ standard palette |
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| 21:05.07 | Robot_kolej | should the RAM on hx4700 survive when i change the main battery ? |
| 21:06.52 | cr2 | Robot_kolej: unlikely |
| 21:09.09 | cr2 | Run Mode clock: 104.00MHz (*8) |
| 21:09.57 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 21:10.02 | cr2 | turbo setting |
| 21:10.05 | cr2 | Run Mode clock: 208.00MHz (*16) |
| 21:10.05 | cr2 | Turbo Mode clock: 624.00MHz (*3.0, active) |
| 21:10.05 | cr2 | Memory clock: 208.00MHz (/2) |
| 21:10.05 | cr2 | System bus clock: 208.00MHz |
| 21:10.36 | cr2 | standard setting |
| 21:10.39 | cr2 | Run Mode clock: 208.00MHz (*16) |
| 21:10.39 | cr2 | Turbo Mode clock: 416.00MHz (*2.0, active) |
| 21:10.39 | cr2 | Memory clock: 208.00MHz (/2) |
| 21:10.39 | cr2 | System bus clock: 208.00MHz |
| 21:11.02 | Robot_kolej | cr2: why so ? |
| 21:11.27 | cr2 | energiesparmodus |
| 21:11.30 | cr2 | Run Mode clock: 104.00MHz (*8) |
| 21:11.30 | cr2 | Turbo Mode clock: 104.00MHz (*1.0, active) |
| 21:11.30 | cr2 | Memory clock: 104.00MHz (/1) |
| 21:11.30 | cr2 | System bus clock: 104.00MHz |
| 21:12.07 | cr2 | Robot_kolej: you think that the backup battery is enough ? |
| 21:14.07 | Robot_kolej | cr2: isnt it enough to keep the content intact ? |
| 21:14.20 | cr2 | lccr4 double bit is always set. |
| 21:14.37 | cr2 | Robot_kolej: for some short time maybe |
| 21:15.04 | cr2 | kiozen: actually the speed settings seem to be reasonable |
| 21:15.36 | Robot_kolej | cr2: shouldn't it last at least few seconds ? |
| 21:16.17 | kiozen | cr2: thus 104MHz is lowest clock rate? |
| 21:18.12 | cr2 | in wince yes. |
| 21:18.30 | cr2 | is is the same setting as the memory clock. |
| 21:18.36 | cr2 | can it be underclocked ? |
| 21:18.56 | cr2 | you'd read the pxa27x datasheet. |
| 21:19.13 | cr2 | or the pxa cpufreq docs. |
| 21:19.23 | kiozen | ok |
| 21:19.39 | cr2 | i'm hunting the gpios |
| 21:20.29 | kiozen | doing dull referencing |
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| 21:27.37 | kiozen | damn distortions at the borders: http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot.png, http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot2.png :( |
| 21:30.20 | cr2 | kiozen: it's probably what pH5 talked about. the gpio cpu voltage regulator. |
| 21:31.10 | kiozen | doesn't it have stable voltage? |
| 21:31.37 | cr2 | other devices have max15xx chip controller over pwr_i2c |
| 21:31.48 | cr2 | i need to trace i2c . |
| 21:32.23 | cr2 | the 3bit pattern correlates with the cpu speed settings. |
| 21:32.48 | cr2 | the transition to the 'spar' mode has an intermediate step. |
| 21:33.06 | cr2 | need pH5 to ask about the voltage -> speed relation |
| 21:33.55 | kiozen | but why is it controlling the voltage cyclicly? |
| 21:34.07 | kiozen | shouldn't it be stable in a certain mode |
| 21:35.07 | cr2 | because the default setting is the 'Automatische moduswahl' |
| 21:35.31 | cr2 | i don't see this gpio activity in other "hard" settings. |
| 21:35.42 | cr2 | only during the changes between them. |
| 21:36.05 | kiozen | ok , thus it's always busy to detect the right mode to save power :) |
| 21:36.17 | cr2 | i only need to document the state machine. |
| 21:36.30 | cr2 | it's probably some hw timer in action. |
| 21:37.00 | cr2 | tmr1 maybe. but i've masked its output :) to reduce spam. |
| 21:37.54 | cr2 | ok, so this problem is also solved . |
| 21:38.16 | kiozen | did you already solved the resume/lcd issue? |
| 21:38.37 | cr2 | no, but i have tracked what i do wrong with the gpios. |
| 21:38.50 | cr2 | wrong = different from wince |
| 21:39.16 | kiozen | sounds promissing :) get tired programming GT, looking forward to M |
| 21:39.39 | cr2 | :D |
| 21:39.51 | cr2 | you are mostly done with M. |
| 21:39.56 | kiozen | however if I look at #qtopia I don't think that is a good moment |
| 21:40.07 | cr2 | ? |
| 21:40.55 | kiozen | OE seems to be fucked up, and thus latest qtopia does not work. BabelO and tsdogs have fun :) |
| 21:41.03 | tsdogs | kiozen: lol |
| 21:41.10 | cr2 | kiozen: do you put some weight on the scanner ? |
| 21:41.36 | kiozen | Meyer's Konverstionslexicon A-D |
| 21:41.36 | cr2 | kiozen: oe is always in this state. use an older tag. |
| 21:42.09 | kiozen | s/Konverstionslexicon/Konversationslexikon/ |
| 21:42.25 | BabelO | kiozen: lol, yes i restart oe build and currently task 373 of 1470 |
| 21:42.50 | kiozen | BabelO: you have to guide me in a few weeks. |
| 21:43.04 | cr2 | kiozen: i use a real "Bleiziegel" :) |
| 21:43.11 | kiozen | LOL |
| 21:43.31 | kiozen | the problem is that the scannes did have a real flat bed |
| 21:43.44 | kiozen | it had 5mm border |
| 21:43.48 | cr2 | a real lead brick. then the book scans look good. |
| 21:44.02 | cr2 | otherwise i have a similar effect. |
| 21:44.20 | kiozen | the book already punched holes into the map at the edges |
| 21:45.31 | cr2 | now i'd like to know how to switch off the blue keyboard backlight. |
| 21:45.47 | kiozen | oh yes |
| 21:47.02 | cr2 | maybe it's the pwm1 |
| 21:47.25 | kiozen | gdalwarp suck: http://pastebin.ca/950854 |
| 21:47.34 | cr2 | it seems there is no direct wince control, so i need to guess |
| 21:48.02 | cr2 | kiozen: i've told you not to compress while warping. |
| 21:48.22 | cr2 | this bug is at least 4 years old. |
| 21:48.34 | kiozen | grr, wanted to do gdal_translate, always get confused |
| 21:48.57 | cr2 | Frank has written something in trac that it's fixed some years ago, but it's _not_. |
| 21:48.59 | kiozen | it's Domain Coudoulet's fault ;) |
| 21:49.29 | cr2 | use translate after warping for compressing and tiling. |
| 21:49.44 | cr2 | i think the bug was fixed for the non-tiled compression. |
| 21:50.03 | cr2 | but tiles+compression still bug and segfault. |
| 21:50.59 | kiozen | yes translate works, I always mix up those two :/ |
| 21:54.04 | kiozen | btw performance (zooming / moving) is much better with one large file than with 15 small ones |
| 21:54.39 | cr2 | you use the IO() interface ? |
| 21:54.45 | cr2 | not the raw tiles ? |
| 21:55.12 | kiozen | yes RasterIO() |
| 21:55.47 | kiozen | but you have to mess with up to 4 tiles, and touch every tile to check visibility |
| 21:56.50 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.56 | kiozen | with one file scrolling is smooth on my Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, with 15 tiles it's a bit slow |
| 21:57.14 | cr2 | and having a common palette for all files is good too. |
| 21:57.41 | cr2 | and you'd use 'gdaladdo' too |
| 21:57.46 | kiozen | hm, block access does not really help in this case, as you have to copy the block into QImage |
| 21:57.58 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:58.07 | kiozen | with RasterIO() i can copy into the QImage buffer directly |
| 21:58.25 | cr2 | the only thing i dislike about gdaladdo is that it uses hardcoded 128x128 tiles. |
| 21:58.29 | kiozen | if the pixel number of the line is a multiple of 4 |
| 21:59.04 | kiozen | btw all of my tiles have common palette |
| 22:00.12 | cr2 | yes, i'll try to enforce it too. |
| 22:00.20 | kiozen | :) it's amazing how inaccurate the official trails on the map are |
| 22:00.23 | cr2 | maybe we can set some flag. |
| 22:00.28 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:00.34 | kiozen | the tracks match roads 100% |
| 22:00.42 | kiozen | but the trails are a mess |
| 22:01.06 | cr2 | are you sure it's not your gps in the mountains ? |
| 22:01.16 | kiozen | and I remember some errors that confused me badly last summer |
| 22:01.53 | cr2 | osm is the answer :) |
| 22:02.06 | kiozen | yes I am sure. I know the areas the accuracy wasn't good |
| 22:02.30 | kiozen | well the tracks on the official roads / gravel roads are perfect |
| 22:02.40 | kiozen | it's just the hiking trails |
| 22:02.58 | cr2 | kiozen: use -co zlevel=9 |
| 22:03.06 | cr2 | otherwise gdal sets 6. |
| 22:03.19 | cr2 | ZLEVEL=[1-9]: Set the level of compression when using DEFLATE compression. A value of 9 is best, and 1 is least compression. The default is 6. |
| 22:03.35 | kiozen | one thing I definetly have to do is recording the gps accuracy with the track points |
| 22:03.58 | cr2 | hehe. save the pseudoranges and PRNs :) |
| 22:04.02 | kiozen | think 6 is quite a nice trade of for compression and performance |
| 22:04.14 | kiozen | pseudoranges and PRNs? |
| 22:04.24 | cr2 | afaik only compression performance. |
| 22:04.56 | kiozen | ok pseudoranges != pseud oranges |
| 22:04.57 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, instead of the latlong, or ECEF. |
| 22:05.33 | cr2 | then you can postprocess the data |
| 22:05.50 | cr2 | gpsd still does not support RINEX ? |
| 22:06.33 | kiozen | don't know, never got gpsd to work corectly with my gps mouse |
| 22:07.26 | cr2 | i don't like bt gps. |
| 22:07.38 | cr2 | it's too fragile |
| 22:08.00 | cr2 | and the bt chip broke already twice for me. |
| 22:08.12 | kiozen | hm, I have more the impression that sw support is fragile |
| 22:08.46 | cr2 | in linux ? |
| 22:08.56 | kiozen | gpsd/linux/bt |
| 22:09.17 | cr2 | the firmware bugs are annoying too. they put a whole bt stack there. |
| 22:09.30 | cr2 | yes, that one too. |
| 22:09.31 | kiozen | the mouse is working perfectly - with static nav. |
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| 22:10.25 | kiozen | but I fear with the mediocre gps of the Loox I have to deal with BT/GPS mouse |
| 22:10.35 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:10.46 | cr2 | ext. antenna ? |
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| 22:11.07 | kiozen | ext antenna is bad to carry |
| 22:11.32 | kiozen | I don't want to look like Bender the robot from Futurama |
| 22:11.53 | kiozen | the squirrils you know... |
| 22:12.02 | kiozen | btw gdal 1.5.1 was released this moment |
| 22:14.37 | cr2 | need to download :) |
| 22:17.22 | kiozen | cr2: fyi http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2008-March/016282.html |
| 22:21.42 | cr2 | he does not provide the gdalinfo output |
| 22:22.10 | cr2 | sometimes gdalwarp creates 3band 16bit sampled tiff for no good reason. |
| 22:22.17 | cr2 | btw, 'convert' too. |
| 22:26.29 | cr2 | ok, his conclusions are the same as mine. warp and then translate. |
| 22:27.03 | cr2 | but it can go bad if the intermediate uncompressed tiff is >2GB |
| 22:28.07 | kiozen | right, and this happens to me when splitting the big blob |
| 22:29.08 | cr2 | so warp into -of hfa |
| 22:29.22 | cr2 | and then _translate into geotiff |
| 22:30.06 | kiozen | no, do a blockwise copy in C ;) |
| 22:30.21 | cr2 | yes, it's a good idea too. |
| 22:30.49 | cr2 | i think we'd eventually get rid of system("gdal*") |
| 22:32.07 | kiozen | not too soon, at the moment it's working pretty good, and we can do changes pretty fast |
| 22:32.48 | kiozen | for linux it's fine, but for win32 it's not very user friendly |
| 22:32.54 | kiozen | don't know about OSX |
| 22:35.42 | cr2 | no. TMR1 is sound-related |
| 22:36.28 | kiozen | no rush OE is broken anyway :P |
| 22:40.35 | kiozen | ok, good night :) |
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| 23:26.11 | cr2 | hi tsdogs |
| 23:26.30 | tsdogs | cr2: hi |
| 23:27.04 | cr2 | your ssplit() is very nice :) |
| 23:27.56 | tsdogs | cr2: nice to hear :) |
| 23:28.58 | tsdogs | I read something about intel patent on a shield against cosmic radiations, I think I've just been bombarded by them. notebook freezed :( |
| 23:29.22 | tsdogs | finally it started up again. |
| 23:29.41 | cr2 | use ecc. |
| 23:30.04 | tsdogs | ehat's that? |
| 23:30.17 | tsdogs | s/ehat/what/ |
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| 23:32.35 | cr2 | ram with the ECC |
| 23:32.37 | tsdogs | cr2: u mean ecc ram? |
| 23:32.39 | tsdogs | lol |
| 23:32.59 | cr2 | i've actually disabled it |
| 23:33.20 | cr2 | because i've never seen an error, but it takes a lot of time to check in bios |
| 23:33.48 | tsdogs | well it's the notebook acpi which is evil I think. I had problems from the starting whith this notebook (and I'm not the only one) |
| 23:34.31 | tsdogs | I bought it 'cause it's x86_64x2 ... but I regret it ever since. |
| 23:34.33 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:35.26 | cr2 | i have x86_64x2 too. |
| 23:35.42 | tsdogs | turion? or athlon |
| 23:35.51 | cr2 | turion |
| 23:36.01 | tsdogs | hmm which brand? |
| 23:36.11 | cr2 | nx6325 |
| 23:36.27 | tsdogs | hmm I have a dv6022 |
| 23:37.02 | cr2 | i use acer 1501lmi as an xterm |
| 23:37.16 | cr2 | it was the first x86_64 notebook |
| 23:37.33 | tsdogs | lol |
| 23:37.50 | cr2 | the hdd was dead after 1 year of continuous use :) |
| 23:37.57 | cr2 | but the rest is rock solid |
| 23:38.11 | cr2 | only the suse 10.3 xserver sucks. |
| 23:38.26 | cr2 | oo often crashes it. |
| 23:38.44 | cr2 | so i gave up using oo ;) |
| 23:39.05 | tsdogs | :) we had many touubles with acer, we moved on selling toshiba / hp and asus lately |
| 23:39.33 | cr2 | it's 3 years old now. i think |
| 23:39.47 | cr2 | hmm. maybe even older. |
| 23:40.52 | cr2 | it's running 24x7/365 |
| 23:41.25 | tsdogs | well luky u :) |
| 23:41.49 | cr2 | with 2GB ram it's ok. |
| 23:41.57 | cr2 | as an xterm :) |
| 23:42.01 | tsdogs | lol |
| 23:42.44 | cr2 | with 512MB it was slow. |
| 23:43.17 | tsdogs | xterm? ho yeah suse is a bit heavy :) |
| 23:43.51 | cr2 | xserver |
| 23:44.23 | cr2 | i don't run anything else locally. |
| 23:45.05 | cr2 | even the home is mounted over nfs. |
| 23:45.47 | tsdogs | hmm, I think I'd have toubles with slow line ... |
| 23:47.05 | cr2 | osm is becoming better an better every day. |
| 23:47.18 | tsdogs | cr2: btw what do u think about intel's patent on this comsmic-rays? |
| 23:47.19 | cr2 | i need to fix the indexer utf8. |
| 23:48.02 | cr2 | tsdogs: it's a legitimate patent as long it's about hardware design |
| 23:48.09 | tsdogs | cr2: not if u live where I am, I tryed starting some editing, but it's not my work, only gps traks are fun |
| 23:48.27 | cr2 | :) |
| 23:49.01 | cr2 | i did a lot of tracing. as a solitair replacement. |
| 23:49.22 | cr2 | but now i'd like to do some postprocessing. |
| 23:49.50 | cr2 | because the data model is rather incompetent when it comes to routing. |
| 23:50.01 | tsdogs | agreed |
| 23:50.36 | cr2 | so i need some tools to do it. |
| 23:51.05 | cr2 | maybe i'd simply write some grass module. |
| 23:51.24 | cr2 | but the grass vector library needs some learning to understand the api. |
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| 23:51.57 | cr2 | the data model and handling is exactly what's needed. |
| 23:52.02 | tsdogs | yeah and docs ain't much there... |
| 23:52.28 | cr2 | yes, they are too elitist. |
| 23:52.44 | cr2 | as a manpage it's ok. because you know what you are doing. |
| 23:52.53 | cr2 | but you can't learn from them. |
| 23:53.18 | cr2 | and the examples are very strange. for a "normal" person. |
| 23:54.12 | tsdogs | yes, I tryed to have some reading, but didn't get much :) |
| 23:55.03 | tsdogs | and the funny thing is that it's an italian project :) |
| 23:55.05 | cr2 | it supports routing, but not the turn restrictions. |
| 23:55.13 | cr2 | yes :) |
| 23:55.59 | cr2 | i've already modified one tool to create sane roads. |
| 23:56.15 | tsdogs | though the wiki has grown since I last looked at it |
| 23:56.26 | cr2 | but it needs more parameters to match the user tags. |
| 23:57.04 | tsdogs | cr2: well it's a start, have u tryed submitting a patch? |
| 23:57.14 | cr2 | you'll never know that for removing the redundant polygon borders one needs to call 'v.extract' ;) |
| 23:57.31 | cr2 | no, i need to do it right. |
| 23:58.10 | cr2 | and the linear algebra lib in grass is awful. |
| 23:58.42 | cr2 | it's used for calibration, but cloned in several variations many times. |
