| 00:34.23 | swc666 | is the cvs down? |
| 00:35.07 | swc666 | nevermind* working now |
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| 06:01.25 | Bradley | is anyone aware if it's possible to port android to an htc (blue angel or ppc-6700) phone? |
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| 08:29.13 | swc-666 | is there any documentation anywhere for porting apps to angstrom ? |
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| 16:19.28 | BabelO_ | ola AlGe |
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| 16:34.29 | dcordes | hi all |
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| 18:47.11 | AlGe | Hi, Babelo are you still here? my laptop crashed in the wrong moment ... |
| 18:47.19 | BabelO_ | lol |
| 18:47.34 | BabelO_ | AlGe: yes, i rollback to old driver and it works better now |
| 18:47.44 | BabelO_ | i can send you the full patch ;) |
| 18:48.06 | AlGe | I just wanted to ask about the kernel changes you made ... yes please send |
| 18:55.06 | BabelO | AlGe: mail sent |
| 18:59.16 | AlGe | thanks, got it |
| 18:59.46 | AlGe | Did I miss any other BA changes during the last weeks? |
| 19:03.08 | BabelO | AlGe: change for line discipline ( one bug fix ) |
| 19:03.27 | BabelO | AlGe: only that |
| 19:03.44 | BabelO | AlGe: and i work on qtopia, i got call / sms working |
| 19:04.00 | BabelO | just sending sms had a little problem |
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| 19:08.44 | AlGe | ok, is the recent kernel version still 2.6.21-hh20-r6? |
| 19:14.29 | AlGe | Babelo: BTW, I tried to compile 2.6.21-hh20-r6 for my Uni, but it didnt boot. Is htcuniversal/defconfig in oe (angstrom-2007.12-stable) wrong? |
| 19:15.22 | BabelO | AlGe: i don't know , better is to use the kernel defconfig |
| 19:15.35 | BabelO | htcuniversal_defconfig or ask goxboxlive |
| 19:15.55 | AlGe | ok, will try this, have to try your patch first ... |
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| 19:23.04 | BabelO | ola goxboxlive :) |
| 19:23.15 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i just notice how internet works in qtopia :) |
| 19:23.17 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 19:23.26 | goxboxlive | what you mean? |
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| 19:31.07 | Pryan | hi cr2 |
| 19:37.40 | AlGe | Babelo: I get some rejects with your patch, and it stops to be applied with: |
| 19:37.43 | AlGe | patch: **** `>' expected at line 253 of patch |
| 19:38.08 | AlGe | could you try to generate a unified diff (-u) ? |
| 19:44.13 | BabelO | AlGe: yes i restart it |
| 19:54.15 | BabelO | AlGe: mail sent |
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| 20:05.35 | AlGe | thanks, arrived |
| 20:09.42 | cr2 | kiozen: gdalwarp is a very fragile tool with a lot of bugs and quirks |
| 20:10.19 | kiozen | cr2: :) gdal is in a quite bad shape at the moment |
| 20:10.35 | kiozen | several issues on the mailing list |
| 20:11.29 | cr2 | well, if you avoid the WellKnownBugs, it works well :) |
| 20:11.47 | cr2 | i've just hit one more. |
| 20:12.14 | kiozen | try svn for GT, some more referencing fun - no it's not working - yet |
| 20:13.17 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:14.21 | kiozen | I should code a similar 1-2-3 scheme for the other dialogs, too |
| 20:16.20 | cr2 | wow. a wizard-like dialog scheme. that's the way to world domination :) |
| 20:17.00 | cr2 | it shows overzoom, but not the zoom level ? |
| 20:17.49 | kiozen | well it was thought as a warning, but, yes maybe it's a good idea to show the zoom level in general |
| 20:17.58 | kiozen | a scale bar is missing, too |
| 20:19.20 | cr2 | nice cursor :) |
| 20:20.36 | kiozen | as a rule the curser has to show it's function in GT |
| 20:20.47 | kiozen | that is a mess in original QL |
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| 20:21.02 | kiozen | my father is a hard test case |
| 20:21.18 | kiozen | and he gets confused easily |
| 20:21.49 | cr2 | yes, it's a simple and very friendly way to show the current state. |
| 20:22.09 | kiozen | and it must match the menu icons |
| 20:22.32 | kiozen | I wish there would be more artist willing to help for open source |
| 20:22.58 | kiozen | fighting with inkscape for hours is no fun |
| 20:23.57 | cr2 | yeah, that's the major problem. there are a lot of technically superior tools which lack any appeal for a "normal" person because of that. |
| 20:25.20 | kiozen | it's crazy but eye candy is 80% of the reason why an app is successfull |
| 20:25.28 | cr2 | i've just imagined how i'll explain the gdal_translate+gdalwarp + avoiding bugs to a layman in that area. |
| 20:25.52 | kiozen | build a nice gui for it |
| 20:25.52 | cr2 | evidence wince ;) |
| 20:26.20 | cr2 | can't do everything... |
| 20:26.20 | kiozen | layman love to press 1 buttun that does what they have got in mind |
| 20:26.31 | kiozen | :) |
| 20:26.54 | cr2 | and for 1000+ images it's easier to use a shell script. |
| 20:27.16 | cr2 | adding GCPs is a gui task. |
| 20:27.52 | cr2 | looking up row/col in gimp, and editing the .gcp file is a real PITA ;) |
| 20:28.08 | kiozen | lol, that's how you did it? |
| 20:28.38 | cr2 | before qgis had some automation. |
| 20:29.18 | kiozen | well hope we get that running soon. the best part will be step 3 - the real work |
| 20:29.33 | cr2 | now i reprocess the .points file written by qgis with a shell script+awk+gdal_translate+gdalwarp |
| 20:29.40 | kiozen | btw how is resume proceeding? |
| 20:30.13 | cr2 | didn't do anything today, was playing with the nice pics after a hard day ;) |
| 20:30.15 | kiozen | or shouldn't i ask :) |
| 20:30.28 | cr2 | asm -> that's what weekends are for :) |
| 20:30.34 | kiozen | nice pics :) ? |
| 20:30.48 | cr2 | geotiff :) |
| 20:31.05 | kiozen | ok, no gif |
| 20:31.18 | cr2 | a nice pic is a pic with geotiff tags :) |
| 20:34.21 | kiozen | ok, http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot.png but still without tags :) |
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| 20:34.58 | kiozen | that is the start of a brilliant mountain tour |
| 20:35.06 | cr2 | there is a grid there ? |
| 20:35.41 | kiozen | utm printed on the map |
| 20:35.49 | kiozen | tabbacco map |
| 20:36.12 | kiozen | they have brilliant maps, but still paper only |
| 20:36.24 | cr2 | looks like a 1m/pix map |
| 20:36.48 | kiozen | 1:25000 scanned with 300 dpi |
| 20:37.30 | dcordes_ | kiozen, this geo referencing wizard looks very impressive! |
| 20:37.51 | kiozen | thanks, let's wait until it works |
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| 20:38.17 | dcordes_ | :-) keep up the good work guys |
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| 20:38.39 | kiozen | you should see the other two map creation dialogs |
| 20:38.46 | kiozen | they are ugly as hell :) |
| 20:39.01 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, 1:25000 is more a qualitative thing. it's m/pix that counts in the end. |
| 20:40.08 | kiozen | hm not really, you won't get more precision from the map if you scan it with 1200 dpi |
| 20:40.29 | kiozen | but 1:25000 and 300 dpi is a nice match |
| 20:40.52 | cr2 | if your roads are 100pix wide, then not :) |
| 20:41.18 | cr2 | it's more about the proportion between the features and the pixel size. |
| 20:41.30 | kiozen | yes, that's why resolutions >300 dbpi get insane |
| 20:41.51 | cr2 | yes, sometimes 300dpi is an overkill too. |
| 20:42.10 | cr2 | i scan at 300dpi only to preserve the text labels. |
| 20:42.25 | kiozen | it's good for zooming out |
| 20:42.51 | kiozen | but tiff algo failes misserably on those scanned maps |
| 20:43.08 | kiozen | especially with those shaded ones |
| 20:44.29 | cr2 | btw, are you going to warp the image in place ? |
| 20:44.57 | kiozen | haven't decided yet, pobabliy not in the beginning |
| 20:45.38 | cr2 | imho with 2 GCPs it can be already positioned more or less properly. |
| 20:46.26 | cr2 | you only need to refine by adding more points in the distorted regions. |
| 20:47.21 | kiozen | imho 3 should remove all basic errors |
| 20:48.12 | cr2 | yes, but usually the printed maps have square pixels. |
| 20:48.32 | cr2 | so the affine transform may make things worse. |
| 20:49.02 | kiozen | hm, let's see when I reach the 3rd stage |
| 20:49.12 | cr2 | and if the map was distorted intentionally, you need a TPS of a lot of GCPs anyway. |
| 20:49.17 | cr2 | ok :) |
| 20:50.00 | kiozen | btw do you think I can use M for that area in July? |
| 20:50.09 | cr2 | heh. sure. |
| 20:50.44 | cr2 | it's not that i need to do some painful research like ATI ;) |
| 20:51.10 | kiozen | hm, I think there will be more problems in detail. |
| 20:51.30 | kiozen | that SD access thing scares me |
| 20:51.47 | kiozen | and propper energy handling |
| 20:51.52 | cr2 | GSOD ? |
| 20:51.55 | kiozen | yes |
| 20:52.05 | cr2 | the charger is autonomous. |
| 20:52.27 | kiozen | not charging, preserving energy over a long time |
| 20:52.54 | cr2 | there are no bizarre devices like ATI or even asic3. |
| 20:53.13 | cr2 | and we are not using wifi. |
| 20:53.47 | cr2 | making wifi work may be a pita because of the SD/wifi mux. |
| 20:54.03 | kiozen | but would be cool for exchanging data |
| 20:54.09 | cr2 | BabelO: do you have IR working on BA ? |
| 20:54.32 | BabelO | cr2: last time i test it yes it was ;) |
| 20:54.54 | BabelO | cr2: with current sources, try to use same as h4000 source |
| 20:54.59 | cr2 | kiozen: it's the control over muxing, but the the mux itself that is a problem. |
| 20:55.02 | BabelO | it is the same i use currently |
| 20:55.23 | cr2 | BabelO: i mean switching between rs232 and IR. |
| 20:55.48 | BabelO | cr2: ah i don't know, i haven't any rs2532 cable |
| 20:56.10 | cr2 | kiozen: gps on n560 is muxed with IR, and it's 1 gpio that switches between them. i guess i'll just switch to gps permanently. |
| 20:56.34 | kiozen | yep, have nor IR counter part at all |
| 20:56.51 | cr2 | i don't any any sane mechanism to switch, only the /sys interface. |
| 20:57.17 | kiozen | no one needs it anyway |
| 20:58.09 | cr2 | that's true. |
| 20:58.49 | cr2 | may be nice for secure key exchange though. |
| 20:59.36 | kiozen | pah, most useless serial bus, no that was something different... |
| 21:02.09 | cr2 | wow, no i need to fix the offset by 1 tile it seems. |
| 21:02.15 | cr2 | s/no/now/ |
| 21:04.35 | kiozen | ??? |
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| 21:07.55 | cr2 | kiozen: i've written a small hack - gtiff2osm |
| 21:08.31 | kiozen | gtiff2osm or osm2gtiff? |
| 21:08.57 | cr2 | gtiff2osm |
| 21:09.24 | cr2 | file.gtif -> a set of z/x/y.png |
| 21:09.37 | cr2 | something like gdal2tiles |
| 21:10.24 | kiozen | ok, but wouldn't one single file be easier? |
| 21:11.00 | cr2 | for M - yes. |
| 21:11.31 | cr2 | the only remaining issue. for GT/M |
| 21:11.47 | cr2 | is to join the 8 palettes. |
| 21:12.16 | cr2 | it's not going to be easy. |
| 21:12.22 | kiozen | hm, that is hard to solve |
| 21:12.48 | cr2 | maybe pull out all single palettes, and create 1 common ? |
| 21:13.11 | kiozen | not working if there are too many colors |
| 21:13.13 | cr2 | but it will work only if the palettes are close to each other. |
| 21:13.26 | kiozen | for osm -> gtiff I think about rendering osm data into one file |
| 21:13.34 | cr2 | yes, it must the 8bit too. |
| 21:13.42 | kiozen | the download is too slow anyway |
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| 21:14.16 | cr2 | you want to do vector rendering yourself ? |
| 21:14.25 | kiozen | hope there is a lib :) |
| 21:14.31 | cr2 | mapnik |
| 21:14.42 | cr2 | but it requires the postgis db. |
| 21:14.55 | kiozen | hm, not good |
| 21:14.56 | cr2 | i don't know the .shp support status. |
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| 21:15.30 | cr2 | but it should be doable. to patch the osm2pgsql for .shp/.mif |
| 21:15.33 | kiozen | I thing scanned map support is more important |
| 21:15.43 | cr2 | agreed. |
| 21:15.49 | kiozen | leads to nicer maps more quickly |
| 21:15.49 | Winkie | oh hey, so there's actually an active linux project |
| 21:15.53 | Winkie | awesome :) |
| 21:16.12 | cr2 | lol. activelinux ? |
| 21:16.33 | Winkie | no i mean an active project to port linux to the HTC phones |
| 21:16.41 | Winkie | i'm getting increasingly frustrated having windows mobile on mine :) |
| 21:16.54 | kiozen | how comes ? ;) |
| 21:16.56 | cr2 | which phone do you have ? |
| 21:17.00 | Winkie | a hermes |
| 21:17.06 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 21:17.10 | cr2 | ati... |
| 21:17.41 | Winkie | well i'm not expecting it to work right away :) |
| 21:17.53 | Winkie | but it's a cool project, and i'm glad to see that it's apparently active |
| 21:18.15 | cr2 | Winkie: the SD driver is a bit unfinished. |
| 21:18.31 | cr2 | otherwise it works better than you may expect. |
| 21:18.46 | cr2 | i mean the port in general. |
| 21:18.52 | Winkie | cr2: can i make and recieve phone calls? because at the moment it's the phone i use for work |
| 21:19.04 | Winkie | if not i'll have to wait until i get a kaiser / whatever is available in a couple months |
| 21:19.24 | cr2 | Winkie: no. not the hermes. |
| 21:19.50 | cr2 | kaiser is going to be an even more PITA. stay with hermes. |
| 21:19.59 | dcordes_ | :-) |
| 21:20.01 | cr2 | if you want linux. |
| 21:20.07 | Winkie | well i can get a new one for free in a couple months, so i can have both :) |
| 21:20.14 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:20.16 | Winkie | that way i can use the hermes for development, although I presume it's mostly C and i'm mostly Perl |
| 21:20.49 | cr2 | it's mostly .asm ;-) |
| 21:20.55 | Winkie | oh beautiful |
| 21:21.13 | Winkie | i've always wanted to learn more about this so i can't make any excuses :) |
| 21:21.34 | cr2 | the "applied" C part is not that different from perl. |
| 21:21.55 | Winkie | well i'm quite interested in helping out so it doesn't bother me what language it's in |
| 21:21.57 | cr2 | it's unsupported and undocumented hardware that makes the troubles. |
| 21:22.01 | Winkie | yeah i can imagine |
| 21:22.20 | Winkie | there are likely legal issues with reverse engineering too i would suspect |
| 21:22.30 | Winkie | brb |
| 21:22.43 | dcordes_ | fbi :( |
| 21:22.57 | cr2 | hehe. the fud seems to be effective. |
| 21:24.46 | cr2 | kiozen: the z/x/y tiling has an advantage that it does not need gdal. only libm and libpng. |
| 21:25.35 | kiozen | and a good and fast filesysttem |
| 21:25.48 | cr2 | and that it's a proper 2^z model which makes zoom scaling very easy. |
| 21:26.46 | cr2 | a common palette is still a problem, though. |
| 21:27.07 | kiozen | but not as bad as with stiching |
| 21:27.33 | cr2 | yes, just some resource waste. |
| 21:27.56 | cr2 | which is not nice on a small pda. |
| 21:29.23 | kiozen | thus you want to make distributed osm servers, just like the seti project |
| 21:30.41 | dcordes_ | I can offer a free htckaiser for distributed computing but only for good purposes lol |
| 21:30.46 | cr2 | yes, i think that the current web 2.0 model is not scalable and will fade away soon. |
| 21:32.15 | cr2 | kiozen: and the z/x/y model allows the osm-based viewers like maemo-whatever to switch to some nice raster maps easily. |
| 21:32.39 | kiozen | well that is right |
| 21:32.47 | cr2 | goxboxlive was talking about such app recently too. |
| 21:33.33 | cr2 | but a gdal approach is better. |
| 21:34.00 | cr2 | for the general purpose portable programs like GT. |
| 21:34.26 | cr2 | and we can use ogr formats too, not only gdal. |
| 21:35.12 | kiozen | what about routing ogr, is it possible (never looked into it) |
| 21:36.26 | cr2 | wow. that kicks ass now :) |
| 21:36.45 | cr2 | no, ogr is not designed for routing |
| 21:37.18 | BabelO | AlGe: i do a mistake , you have to remove reference to &bluenagel_phone in blueangel.c to compile |
| 21:37.47 | cr2 | kiozen: i've fixed 'off by one' tile bug, and it's amazing. |
| 21:38.27 | kiozen | cr2: url ? ;) |
| 21:38.38 | cr2 | kiozen: i've using this one as a viewer http://www.irule.be/bvh/c++/merkaartor |
| 21:39.34 | kiozen | looks like winows |
| 21:39.52 | cr2 | qt4 is portable |
| 21:40.05 | cr2 | i compiled from svn |
| 21:40.47 | cr2 | he was using yahoo as a background, but it was considered politically incorrect. |
| 21:41.56 | cr2 | i've using the homebrewn local tiles. |
| 21:42.44 | cr2 | it should be used with the brain switched on mode. |
| 21:44.29 | cr2 | one can see it as a poor man WMS |
| 21:45.49 | kiozen | as long as it has a html frontend |
| 21:46.39 | cr2 | it's easier to setup apache than apache+mapserver+mapserver config. |
| 21:51.35 | kiozen | ok stage2 is in the svn. stage3 is for the weekend :) enought for today |
| 21:55.17 | cr2 | ok :) i feel exhausted too. |
| 21:56.55 | kiozen | good night :) |
| 22:30.35 | BabelO | cr2: gprs works perfect with qtopia ;) |
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| 22:32.14 | cr2 | BabelO: so only sms remains ? |
| 22:32.18 | cr2 | sending sms |
| 22:32.32 | BabelO | cr2: yes ;) and also pcmcia qtopia management ;) |
| 22:32.52 | BabelO | hmm i need to eat a little before |
| 22:34.02 | AlGe | Babelo: I splitted your patch a little bit, now it applies (It contained lots of stuff I already applied) and Im boot just now. |
| 22:37.52 | AlGe | Babelo: touchscreen works great now, even the onscreen keyboard is usable now, no jitter in line drawings too. Thanks |
| 22:39.21 | BabelO | AlGe: not thanks to me, thanks asylumed who have made first this driver ;) , it would be great to use adc stuff once it is stable |
| 22:39.33 | AlGe | so I'm uploading my new alge-Ba images now to algepop.net, kernel update time :-) |
| 22:41.43 | BabelO | AlGe: as i talk you , i ve to add adc capabilities to tsc2200 driver, then you can see the second battery status |
| 22:43.00 | AlGe | ok, is that also a driver that already was there and had been replaced by the tsadc thing? |
| 22:43.55 | BabelO | AlGe: it was long time ago, but for this we can use adc :) |
| 22:44.14 | AlGe | If this works too, only the keyboard stuck error is remaining, correct? |
| 22:47.52 | BabelO | AlGe: yes, and sound record, video but missing ati registers |
| 22:50.56 | AlGe | Babelo: another question: last week I updated a hx4700 from my colleague to a recent angstrom, everything went well (he was happy to have wireless working the first time, it's acx) but we also played with his bluetooth gps mouse |
| 22:51.59 | AlGe | we installed roadmap-gtk2, but it refuses to start with some "no classes to load message"? do you have any clue what this is? no maps available maybe? |
| 22:52.50 | BabelO | AlGe: no idea, is it the current roadmap cvs ? or another package ? |
| 22:53.24 | AlGe | it is from oe, we got it from the angstrom 2007.12 feed I guess |
| 22:53.56 | AlGe | I also tried it on my BA, same result. |
| 22:54.04 | BabelO | AlGe: no idea, i did not use it, just try the qt version |
| 22:54.12 | AlGe | :-) |
| 22:54.14 | BabelO | maybe cr2 now more |
| 22:54.28 | BabelO | AlGe: once i finish qtopia, you have to test it ;) |
| 22:55.06 | AlGe | of course, I'm a long term qtopia user (my main pda is a sharp SL6000 :-) |
| 23:09.39 | tsdogs | AlGe: usually that message means u are missing default/All file somewhere... |
| 23:10.06 | tsdogs | AlGe: /usr/local/share/roadmap is default path |
| 23:13.32 | AlGe | I thought we had put some files to that place, but may it was the wrong place. |
| 23:14.15 | BabelO | AlGe: use strace |
| 23:14.46 | tsdogs | AlGe: u only need to check how it's built I think. |
| 23:16.09 | tsdogs | AlGe: It should be /usr/share/roadmap/default/All |
| 23:16.43 | AlGe | I think i've put it in sdcard and called roadmap with --maps, maybe i mixed it and put the path behind --config ... |
| 23:17.03 | AlGe | I'll try again. |
| 23:17.41 | tsdogs | AlGe: it really depends on the version u using, I'd suggest CVS as it has some OSM support too, but maps are incompatible though with previos version |
| 23:18.01 | AlGe | ok, so I'll try this, thanks |
| 23:18.19 | tsdogs | uw :) |
| 23:21.41 | cr2 | hi tsdogs |
| 23:21.47 | tsdogs | cr2: hi |
| 23:22.02 | AlGe | Babelo: I have a problem with some of the gpio-keys (or are these the asic3-keys?) now: they worked initially and now stopped (after some suspend/resumes (cal, contacts, up, down, left right)) |
| 23:22.08 | cr2 | tsdogs: i have "osm" raster tiles working now :) |
| 23:22.20 | tsdogs | cr2: wow cool :) |
| 23:22.34 | cr2 | AlGe: which roadmap version are you using ? |
| 23:23.19 | cr2 | tsdogs: if we had mercator-based coordinate system in roadmap, then using these tiles would have been trivial. |
| 23:23.34 | cr2 | tsdogs: it already works for me with merkaartor |
| 23:23.35 | AlGe | cr2: that from current oe, |
| 23:24.11 | tsdogs | cr2: ok, but I think png is better for general use. |
| 23:24.11 | AlGe | cr2: roadmap-gtk2-1.1.0-r0 |
| 23:24.49 | cr2 | AlGe: ok, but unless you are in the US, you need to generate the maps and your own class. |
| 23:25.35 | AlGe | ah, ok, but I only wanted to try the demo maps |
| 23:25.52 | cr2 | heh. and you are limited to the simple drawing style and font support, because it's not ported from the qt4 version. |
| 23:29.09 | tsdogs | cr2: the ported style is actually only in xanadux cvs, I'd need to do some work on it, and try submitting a patch. |
| 23:30.28 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:33.31 | AlGe | now I untarred demo_maps.tar.gz into a subdirectory /usr/share/roadmap/default/All, now it complains "cannot access class file /usr/share/roadmap/default/All" |
| 23:36.51 | tsdogs | AlGe: the All is a file, and maps should go either in ~/.roadmap/maps or /usr/share/roadmap/maps |
| 23:37.10 | tsdogs | the All file is found in the source... |
| 23:37.43 | AlGe | ok, I'll have closer look into that sources ... |
| 23:38.32 | tsdogs | AlGe: u only need the "All" file, and put the maps in one of those paths, but u probably would need a few more files. |
| 23:40.07 | cr2 | tsdogs: imho it should be possible to generate the class file by scanning the .rdm files and using some wide generic class like Polish. |
| 23:40.18 | cr2 | which may be extended. |
| 23:42.15 | AlGe | tsdogs: probably some more files, because now with maps and "all" in place it segfaults. I'll continue on this later, going to sleep now. |
| 23:42.16 | AlGe | thanks all |
| 23:42.16 | tsdogs | cr2: I actually have no knoledge of the rdm structure, then u'd miss colors, styles and decluttering |
| 23:42.58 | tsdogs | AlGe: I think it's a problem with the file format dos2unix All should do the trick |
| 23:43.07 | tsdogs | AlGe: good night |
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