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| 01:43.12 | BabelO_ | Kevin2: it is a s3cxxx kernel with some driver for tomtom gps, maybe it can help you with hermes http://www.tomtom.com/page.php?Page=gpl |
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| 06:43.25 | Pryan | hi Kevin2 have you modified the driver of the keyboard to work on athena ? |
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| 11:56.51 | BabelO | hi |
| 11:58.24 | tsdogs | BabelO: hi |
| 11:59.10 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 11:59.12 | goxboxlive | bi tsdogs |
| 11:59.18 | tsdogs | hi goxboxlive |
| 11:59.24 | goxboxlive | s/bi/hi/ |
| 11:59.27 | goxboxlive | -) |
| 11:59.49 | BabelO | pH5: i need your help |
| 11:59.55 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: there was a user which tryed magician images, but had troubles with the phone. |
| 12:00.09 | tsdogs | Is the phone working on magician with Qtopia? |
| 12:00.10 | BabelO | tsdogs: my friend try to implement another solution for voice recogntion |
| 12:00.13 | goxboxlive | i installed kde4 two days ago. My machine failed and i had to reinstall debian |
| 12:00.28 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, yes, the magician doesnt work iwth QTopia |
| 12:00.28 | tsdogs | BabelO: that's ok for me :) |
| 12:00.40 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: anybody working on it? |
| 12:00.55 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: openmoko works right? |
| 12:03.04 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, BabelO is working on BA, and it's quite similar to Magician. With Openmoko the phone should work. Have no idea about sms though |
| 12:03.41 | BabelO | tsdogs: you have a magician ? |
| 12:04.02 | tsdogs | BabelO: nope, but there was a guy with dialup asking :) |
| 12:04.46 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, i also think pH5 is working on the bootloader |
| 12:06.46 | tsdogs | any news on the fixed for universal with suspend? I had Qtopia running 1 night and it blew up the battery :) |
| 12:07.02 | pH5 | BabelO: here |
| 12:07.26 | BabelO | pH5: good :), i found why qtopia segfault on magician / ba now |
| 12:07.47 | BabelO | pH5: it seem sometimen_tihtc return a \n on first position of the frame |
| 12:08.06 | BabelO | and i don't now from where it come, wait i post a trace |
| 12:08.32 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: u think that /opt/Qtopia/share/roadmap is good for the config and maps ? |
| 12:08.40 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, yes with ymerejts patches it last for several days. If you want them i can mail them to you |
| 12:09.19 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, Yes why not. But if we choose that path we cant use the mailine version right? |
| 12:09.28 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: yes thx |
| 12:09.47 | goxboxlive | it should be common i think, so people can choose wich versiob they want to use |
| 12:09.54 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: there is a define which can change where the default is, so it will work with both |
| 12:10.44 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: hmm that's problematic, as there are slightly different configuration options and maps too I think |
| 12:10.45 | goxboxlive | ok, good, then yes |
| 12:10.52 | goxboxlive | o |
| 12:10.53 | goxboxlive | k |
| 12:11.08 | goxboxlive | pathces sent. Just notice the date in the subject |
| 12:11.17 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: thx |
| 12:11.37 | BabelO | pH5: as you can see here http://pastebin.ca/924492 an \n come sometimes on first position, but does not seem to come from modem |
| 12:12.04 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: why were they not applied to the kernel? |
| 12:12.57 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, because cr2 says they are not clean and they may influent other devices |
| 12:13.10 | goxboxlive | but, they work :-) |
| 12:13.24 | BabelO | pH5: i use currently the n_tihtc from hh |
| 12:16.43 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: hmm for what I can see it is only this function which is not htcuniversal specific... sa1100dog_init |
| 12:16.55 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, ok |
| 12:18.42 | pH5 | BabelO: you are right, this looks like a bug in n_tihtc. some leftovers from the last received frame maybe, or some off-by-one counter error. |
| 12:20.12 | BabelO | pH5: ok, i m agree that qtopia should be able to handle this kind of frame, i found the bug in code, but should be good if we can fix the one in driver before |
| 12:30.55 | pH5 | BabelO: this http://en.pastebin.ca/924508 looks like a fuck-up that only gets hit if the user space process reads into small buffers. |
| 12:31.34 | BabelO | pH5: yes qtopia read with very very small buffer ;) |
| 12:31.43 | pH5 | but I don't see how this could be the reason for our case. maybe there's still something hiding around there. |
| 12:32.06 | BabelO | pH5: i am recompiling with another dump_buffer |
| 12:32.09 | pH5 | if we're lucky this helps, if not we have to add some more printks there. |
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| 12:38.10 | BabelO | pH5: good :) it help |
| 12:38.40 | BabelO | pH5: i don't understand why, but it help |
| 12:39.42 | tsdogs | pH5: if the buffer was too small, it returned the size of the buffer, but then the remaining bits whould be lost... |
| 12:40.45 | BabelO | tsdogs: ahh ok, qtopia use unbuffered access to serial |
| 12:45.09 | tsdogs | hmm, I might be wrong though :/ |
| 12:49.10 | tsdogs | BabelO: this does not look right:copy_to_user(buf, rx->buf, rx->count) |
| 12:50.24 | tsdogs | so pH5 fix is ok, so probably was some fsck up memory leading to this (I wonder why it did not segfault or even panic) |
| 12:51.32 | tsdogs | BabelO: I defenatly think this fixes the problems :) |
| 12:52.19 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes it fix the problem, but now qtopia stop after sending AT+CSCS? |
| 12:53.38 | tsdogs | BabelO: hmm that's strange, have u tryed with a buffer of 256 ? |
| 12:54.22 | BabelO | tsdogs: no |
| 12:54.45 | tsdogs | ok, but that would be a work around of this problem... |
| 12:55.06 | tsdogs | BabelO: if u use cu to send this commands what do u get? |
| 12:55.25 | BabelO | tsdogs: i want to use qtopia standard and send a bugtracker to trolltech instead ;) |
| 12:55.44 | tsdogs | BabelO: "work around" != fix :) |
| 12:56.32 | tsdogs | BabelO: now u don't get the \n anymore right? |
| 12:57.10 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes i never get it now, i do lot of retry, and i get always good frame |
| 12:57.35 | tsdogs | BabelO: ok so the problem was the small buffer, u know why it hangs now? |
| 12:58.36 | BabelO | tsdogs: i think yes |
| 13:05.01 | BabelO | hmm <7>[ 248.430000] AT <7>(20)\n\r\n+CBC: 0,0\r\n\r\nOK\r\n |
| 13:13.30 | tsdogs | BabelO: U sure it ain't coming from the modem? |
| 13:14.29 | BabelO | tsdogs: maybe it is just the dump on wrong buf |
| 13:15.21 | tsdogs | BabelO: should not be the dump... |
| 13:20.48 | tsdogs | BabelO: what is the line just before that? |
| 13:22.38 | tsdogs | BabelO: I think then it might be the filter... as the first dump of the line is ok, the second is not... |
| 13:24.02 | BabelO | tsdogs: i m looking at qtopia now, i ll look after |
| 13:24.09 | tsdogs | BabelO: ok |
| 13:28.34 | goxboxlive | stupid bluetooth mouse. I allwys have to run hidd --server --connect bt.adr after been away from my comptuer for a while. The connection doesnt stay |
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| 13:46.16 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: can u send me the initrd u use for the image_rootfs mount? |
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| 14:01.55 | BabelO | welcome back cr2 :) |
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| 14:32.56 | Kevin2 | Pryan - I got keyboard working on Hermes. I haven't looked at any other device. |
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| 14:35.08 | Kevin2 | BabelO - thanks for the link. I haven't had much time to look at Hermes unfortunately. |
| 14:36.53 | BabelO | Kevin2: it was just if it can help, TomTom device use same processor |
| 14:44.05 | cr2 | hi. i'm again into the small tiny arm cpus, back from the fat multiprocessor gear :) |
| 14:44.53 | BabelO | hi cr2, i got a new tiny arm cpu > BCM1160 |
| 14:45.25 | cr2 | broadcom ? is it documented ? |
| 14:46.10 | BabelO | cr2: don't know, but i have source code |
| 14:46.19 | cr2 | i've learned some nice things this week. that gcc supports openmp, and the 'restrict' keyword in c99 syntax. |
| 14:46.25 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. |
| 14:47.34 | cr2 | the 'intel thread checker' reminded me Kevin's haret work. |
| 14:48.12 | cr2 | it's a pity we don't have a real multicore arm cpu :) |
| 14:51.09 | BabelO | cr2: http://en.pastebin.ca/924592 |
| 14:52.29 | Pryan | ok Kevin2 |
| 14:52.57 | cr2 | BabelO: CPU implementer : 0x41 |
| 14:53.10 | cr2 | BabelO: are they enumerated somewhere ? |
| 14:53.11 | Pryan | hi cr2 |
| 14:53.15 | cr2 | hi Pryan |
| 14:53.50 | cr2 | Pryan: i've used athena do gather gps tracks last week. it's a shame that it still runs wince ;) |
| 14:54.09 | Pryan | hahahaha |
| 14:54.44 | Pryan | lets see when i can buy the cable |
| 14:55.44 | BabelO | cr2: i don't know what is it |
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| 15:10.05 | BabelO | cr2: how can i see dmesg if command is not here, and /var/log/messages is truncated |
| 15:23.52 | cr2 | dmesg is the kernel ringbuffer |
| 15:55.19 | BabelO | cr2: so i can't access |
| 15:55.32 | BabelO | goxboxlive: does universal boot if you have no sim inside ? |
| 15:58.37 | cr2 | BabelO: it boots but then hangs in qtopia |
| 15:59.05 | cr2 | BabelO: the dmesg buffer is somewhere in RAM :) |
| 15:59.22 | BabelO | cr2: ok thanks. now i get qtopia hang |
| 15:59.47 | BabelO | cr2: i can compile a dmesg, there is also a wifi chipset i think it is broadcom too |
| 15:59.55 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:00.07 | cr2 | i need to look at the dmesg source too :) |
| 16:00.13 | cr2 | probably it's some ioctl. |
| 16:01.27 | cr2 | gimp is probably ok for the 'artists', but it's a real PITA to rotate/clip by selecting 4 points points ;) |
| 16:01.28 | BabelO | cr2: it is close to this one ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/wip300/v1.00.09/WIP300_v1.00.09.zip |
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| 16:22.58 | goxboxlive | BabelO, yes it boots. Are you talking about starting Qtopia? |
| 16:22.59 | goxboxlive | if so |
| 16:23.12 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes |
| 16:23.20 | goxboxlive | with previoues version you needed to have sim, but not the new source |
| 16:23.46 | goxboxlive | but if you have a sim and uses pin code then you cant access qtopia if you are using the finxi theme. |
| 16:23.59 | goxboxlive | with other themes the pin code activation work |
| 16:25.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok |
| 16:26.07 | BabelO | goxboxlive: actually qtopia hang after an init step, i m looking at it |
| 16:27.55 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:28.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive: so there is some progress |
| 16:28.16 | BabelO | just need to found what i miss now |
| 16:28.38 | cr2 | goxboxlive: weird. what is then fscked in the finxi theme (whatever that is :) |
| 16:29.26 | goxboxlive | cr2, yes, the theme is new, the others are old |
| 16:29.39 | goxboxlive | well new, it's from prewiev-4.3.0 |
| 16:31.23 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 18:30.38 | solar_ant | hi all ! |
| 18:35.26 | Pryan | hi |
| 18:36.30 | solar_ant | hi Pryan :) |
| 18:36.57 | solar_ant | I am looking forward to get linux on my blue angel |
| 18:37.52 | Pryan | sorry, i have an athena and the compatibility isnt very good |
| 18:53.40 | tsdogs | solar_ant: BabelO is working on BA, and I think it's pretty close to be usable :) |
| 18:59.57 | solar_ant | thanks tsdogs :) |
| 19:00.03 | solar_ant | will look into it |
| 19:00.30 | solar_ant | babel0 ?? |
| 19:01.31 | tsdogs | BabelO: u there? |
| 19:02.10 | tsdogs | solar_ant: I think he's got a social life after all :) |
| 19:06.04 | solar_ant | tsdogs: lol :) |
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| 19:06.26 | ivucica | cheers |
| 19:06.46 | ivucica | i'm trying to work out compiling a 2.4 kernel using codesourcery's toolchain with gcc 3.4.4 |
| 19:06.50 | solar_ant | I picked up a second hand BA for 150$ today |
| 19:06.52 | solar_ant | is it a good deal |
| 19:07.42 | ivucica | (im compiling for ipaq 3800) |
| 19:10.12 | ivucica | in any case ... im getting a lot of "interworking" (whatever that is) related errors |
| 19:10.12 | ivucica | panic.c:1: warning: target CPU does not support interworking |
| 19:10.16 | ivucica | warnings, i mean |
| 19:10.27 | ivucica | it seems to appear for every file |
| 19:10.57 | ivucica | additionally, cpufreq.c generates errors |
| 19:11.00 | ivucica | e.g. |
| 19:11.11 | ivucica | cpufreq.c:413: error: initializer element is not constant |
| 19:11.11 | ivucica | cpufreq.c:413: error: (near initialization for `ctl_cpu_vars[0].data') |
| 19:11.19 | ivucica | similar thing repeats several times |
| 19:11.37 | ivucica | it's this line: |
| 19:11.37 | ivucica | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:17.11 | ivucica | it's totally incredible, 47 other people on the channel and nobody says a damned thing. |
| 19:19.20 | solar_ant | ivucica: I dont know what you are talking about |
| 19:19.25 | solar_ant | so that makes it 46:) |
| 19:20.06 | cr2 | ivucica: you just ask weird things :) |
| 19:21.11 | cr2 | solar_ant: get the hh.org CVS kernel code, and compile it. the usespace things are a bit broken recently. |
| 19:22.58 | ivucica | cr2 hehe well ... |
| 19:23.28 | ivucica | ah, nevermind, i searched my mail a bit and i found that i need gcc 4.2 |
| 19:23.44 | ivucica | i messed it up again -- will get new gcc and try again :) |
| 19:24.08 | ivucica | cr2 -- i'll grab your hand soon to lead me through compiling this; that ok with you? :) |
| 19:24.38 | cr2 | 2.4 ? i've not done it for ages, but it's interesting for me too. |
| 19:24.41 | ivucica | i just want a working haret-loaded 2.4 kernel on my pocketpc, im sick of windows mobile lately |
| 19:24.48 | cr2 | ok |
| 19:25.00 | ivucica | haha, yes, 2.4; 2.6 doesnt have any drivers |
| 19:25.14 | ivucica | they're in the kernel tree, but not working |
| 19:25.18 | ivucica | not adapted for 2.6 |
| 19:25.32 | ivucica | no mmc, no backlight management ... |
| 19:25.58 | cr2 | backlight should not be very difficult, but mmc is a bigger problem. |
| 19:26.01 | ivucica | ah well; cr2, will you be here monday evening? |
| 19:26.34 | cr2 | probably |
| 19:26.44 | ivucica | if you're willing to be my mentor, we can even try to port drivers from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 19:26.51 | ivucica | i wanted to do it for months, but i'm totally lost |
| 19:26.51 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:27.06 | ivucica | (and i dont expect it to be a one-evening work, dont worry) |
| 19:27.09 | ivucica | :) |
| 19:27.48 | ivucica | ok in any case, cr2, see you monday evening |
| 19:27.57 | ivucica | i dont have gcc that i need right now, and 28.8k doesnt help |
| 19:28.02 | ivucica | (modem9 |
| 19:28.05 | ivucica | (modem) * |
| 19:28.17 | ivucica | i dont expect being on a faster connection until monday |
| 19:28.23 | ivucica | see you, cr2 -- nice to see you again |
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| 19:52.57 | cr2 | goxboxlive: is it possible to enable gcc-4.2.2 in oe ? |
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