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| 05:21.51 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: hi |
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| 05:56.02 | rakeem | hello? Is this working? |
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| 06:21.12 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, hey |
| 06:21.14 | paulproteus | rakeem, Yes! |
| 06:23.44 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: i tried merging "goxboxlive" with 4.3.2, but it failed. Can you try? |
| 06:24.15 | goxboxlive | i want my branch to track 4.3.2-snapshot and not 4.3.1 now. |
| 06:24.41 | goxboxlive | bb in 30 min |
| 06:24.59 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Hmm, okay, I'll try. |
| 06:27.04 | goxboxlive | thx |
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| 06:58.25 | goxboxlive | re |
| 07:14.50 | rakeem | Hey, goxboxlive, I saw something in the logs about some kind of driver to allow booting into linux from WM6 on the Uni. Is this in the CVS tree or do I need to do it manually. If so how/where? |
| 07:23.54 | paulproteus | rakeem, Haret works for that normally ,no? |
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| 07:30.15 | goxboxlive | re |
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| 08:13.03 | rakeem | paulproteus: I tried three different WM6 ROMs, but only one would let it boot. Even though, I suspect (feel free to comment anyone) that it may be interfering with the GSM or USB somewhere, because after inserting usbserial and starting gsmd, I can see ttyUSB0 & 1 (and the appropriate gubbins under lsusb) but as soon as I pass *anything* to ttyUSB0 it freaks out and I get 'USB disconnect ttyS0' and the same for ttyUSB1. After this lsusb show |
| 08:15.06 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: did you test merging with 4.3.2? |
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| 12:37.39 | snakefreak | startup script in init.d doesnt work. i had make a file echo 'hciattach /dev/ttyS3 any' > hci.sh and created link ln -s /etc/init.d/hci.sh /etc/rc5.d/S99hci but doesnt work. |
| 12:38.33 | snakefreak | whats wrong any idea? |
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| 13:45.32 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
| 13:45.48 | cr2 | yes |
| 13:46.08 | kiozen | cr2: need some bt support |
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| 13:46.40 | cr2 | got your receiver ? |
| 13:46.49 | kiozen | hcitool info <addr> |
| 13:46.52 | kiozen | yes |
| 13:47.03 | kiozen | bt can see it |
| 13:47.10 | cr2 | do you see it with 'hcitool scan' ? |
| 13:47.10 | kiozen | but how do i connect? |
| 13:47.15 | kiozen | yes |
| 13:47.25 | cr2 | hmm |
| 13:47.36 | cr2 | :) didn't do it for a long time. |
| 13:47.37 | cr2 | looking |
| 13:48.01 | kiozen | I tried "hcitool cc <addr>" |
| 13:48.07 | kiozen | but it won't connect |
| 13:48.14 | kiozen | I tried "hcitool info <addr>" |
| 13:48.20 | kiozen | shows me some info |
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| 13:48.58 | cr2 | can you try it in kde ? |
| 13:49.07 | kiozen | not working |
| 13:49.15 | kiozen | dialog freezes |
| 13:49.24 | cr2 | ok |
| 13:49.53 | kiozen_ | http://pastebin.ca/911073 |
| 13:50.17 | cr2 | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_use_Bluetooth_GPS_device_(_with_GPSD_) |
| 13:50.25 | kiozen | in windows it works w/o problems |
| 13:51.01 | snakefreak | http://www.frontiernet.net/~beakmyn/bluetooth%20Ipaq%203975.htm |
| 13:51.11 | snakefreak | can be help |
| 13:51.36 | snakefreak | or http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/h2200-port/40/4030.html |
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| 13:51.44 | cr2 | so it's 'rfcomm connect' |
| 13:53.02 | snakefreak | i do the same at this times i want to conect bt gps to ba. and it schould work at boot then i want to use kismet. |
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| 14:54.07 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Yes, and there were some conflicts. |
| 14:54.14 | paulproteus | Then I went to bed. |
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| 15:03.46 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: yes i had them myslf. Are you able to fix them, or should i just delete my branch and handle it manually |
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| 15:20.17 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, I'll help you merge your branch. |
| 15:20.22 | paulproteus | But later today. |
| 15:21.28 | goxboxlive | thx |
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| 16:35.05 | adrian15 | Hello. I need a PDA that: Can run java inside an installed linux system, that has wifi support and SD read/write capabilites. Any advice? |
| 16:41.46 | tsdogs | adrian15: wifi with WPA? |
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| 16:59.05 | adrian15 | tsdogs: with and without it (it might matter but I am not sure) |
| 17:00.30 | tsdogs | well, it's a tough question. I know HTC Universal, but probably u should choose something like a HP iPaq probably. |
| 17:02.27 | tsdogs | no idea if u can still buy it though: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqHx4700 |
| 17:02.49 | tsdogs | also java should be supported, but I never tested |
| 17:08.53 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
| 17:09.21 | tsdogs | adrian15: I'd suggest u to try asking on OE channel. |
| 17:10.05 | tsdogs | paulproteus: I have merged the new 4.3.2-snapshot, but now I have issues with license (?), my tree won't even configure |
| 17:10.18 | paulproteus | tsdogs, That's weird.... |
| 17:10.42 | kiozen | tsdogs: did you ever understand the advantage of using gpsd over acessing the serial port directly? |
| 17:12.04 | tsdogs | kiozen: no idea, my experience is limited to roadmap which uses gpsd. |
| 17:12.17 | kiozen | ok |
| 17:12.39 | tsdogs | probably it's simply a matter of having an hardware abstraction layer... |
| 17:13.07 | tsdogs | also u can use it with a network, (not much usefull on a PXA though) |
| 17:13.53 | kiozen | hw abstraction is done by the serial driver |
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| 17:14.07 | kiozen | but serial -> network is kind of nice |
| 17:14.18 | kiozen | but most times it's useless |
| 17:14.30 | diogene31_ | Hello. |
| 17:14.31 | tsdogs | kiozen: also u can use raw file, which is != serial |
| 17:15.07 | kiozen | hm, NMEA should be fine :) |
| 17:15.40 | tsdogs | goxboxlive has a device which is using a propietary driver and it puts everyting into a file, thus gpsd is nice to have |
| 17:15.48 | tsdogs | yep |
| 17:15.53 | tsdogs | diogene31_: hi |
| 17:18.26 | cr2 | kiozen: not all gps devices talk nmea, nmea is quite limited in scope, and you don't want to reimplement all binary protocol parsers available in gpsd |
| 17:19.10 | kiozen | but gpsd will output NMEA for all devices? |
| 17:19.38 | snakefreak | i play with gps to but iam on beginning (conectinf to ba) and its heavy with ba touch^^ |
| 17:20.43 | kiozen | snakefreak: well I have got it working with manual setup |
| 17:20.58 | kiozen | still need some script |
| 17:22.12 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, nmea output is the purpose of having gpsd |
| 17:22.52 | cr2 | kiozen: since gpsd has zero access control, no ssl & such, its network capabilities are questionable. |
| 17:23.59 | cr2 | i've added the gpl'd gpsd copy to xanadux CVS, because i'd like to make some changes there which were rejected from the mainline gpsd because they are gpl licensed. |
| 17:24.17 | cr2 | things like magnetic variation and a better geoid correction scheme. |
| 17:24.41 | kiozen | cr2: ok, now I just have to find out how to start all this on BT detecting a gps mouse |
| 17:25.42 | cr2 | ok. the main problem is the reconnect. |
| 17:25.49 | cr2 | i don't know if it's solved now. |
| 17:26.55 | kiozen | is there a place the bt stuff is checking for a new device? |
| 17:27.17 | cr2 | where ? in gpsd ? |
| 17:27.34 | snakefreak | kiozen a script will be nice |
| 17:27.42 | kiozen | no for the bt stuff |
| 17:28.11 | kiozen | I would expect some script to execute if a certain device is detected |
| 17:28.48 | kiozen | or doesn't bt scan for devices continously? |
| 17:32.03 | kiozen | ok got to go, bbl |
| 17:32.36 | snakefreak | i think not because hcitool scan Takes some time to scan. |
| 17:32.52 | snakefreak | and when scanning in baground then it should be faster |
| 17:32.57 | snakefreak | i think |
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| 18:14.52 | tsdogs | paulproteus: my git tree is officially fskuped up. |
| 18:15.15 | paulproteus | Aww, everyone's git tree is a mess. )-: |
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| 18:15.30 | paulproteus | Is this due to the 4.3.2 migration? |
| 18:21.37 | tsdogs | paulproteus: I think so |
| 18:22.14 | tsdogs | when I run configure on my merged tree I get License problems, this is not so if I run it against 4.3.2 though |
| 18:22.49 | tsdogs | I think I'll rebuild my tree with original 4.3.2 source, and add changes manually |
| 18:23.17 | tsdogs | I think merge did not get it right :( |
| 18:27.43 | paulproteus | tsdogs, For goxboxlive's tree also, there were some conflicts. |
| 18:27.47 | paulproteus | I wonder what mistake merge made. |
| 18:28.27 | tsdogs | paulproteus: I tryed to resolve the conflicts with checkout 4.3.2 version of the files, though this did not do the trick |
| 18:30.35 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: DO not name the branch the version since we track the latest snapshots. Just name it qtopia-snapshot, then when TT move over to 4.3.3 it will be easy to track our own branches again. |
| 18:32.30 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: well, master should be aligned so traking master whould trak latest snapshot |
| 18:32.58 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: ok |
| 18:33.21 | goxboxlive | i tracked 4.3.1 in my branch, if i tracked master it would have worked right? |
| 18:34.00 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: when u do a push, then the branch will track the pushed one afai understand |
| 18:34.37 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:34.48 | tsdogs | hmm, maybe this is a 4.3.2 problem, cause I get the license problem even copiing the whole snapshot over the git tree |
| 18:35.05 | paulproteus | tsdogs, Hmm, does the 4.3.2 snapshot tarball work for you? |
| 18:35.13 | paulproteus | The 4.3.2 branch should be strictly equivalent to the tarball. |
| 18:35.18 | tsdogs | paulproteus: trying |
| 18:35.22 | paulproteus | But obviously when you merge things in, that's not true. |
| 18:37.33 | tsdogs | paulproteus: I tryied configuring on the tarball and get the same error, so probably it's a bug in the 4.3.2 source |
| 18:37.47 | paulproteus | tsdogs, Okay, "good" (-; |
| 18:37.54 | paulproteus | tsdogs, Now you should but ljp in #qtopia. (-: |
| 18:38.05 | paulproteus | Not that he's there.... |
| 18:38.34 | tsdogs | he's not online... |
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| 18:42.26 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: do u also get a license problem? |
| 18:42.39 | cr2 | lol |
| 18:42.53 | cr2 | tsdogs: what is "a license problem" ? |
| 18:43.29 | tsdogs | cr2: configuring qtopia-opensource says I do not have a valid license key :) |
| 18:43.30 | Peenix | the crack expired ;) |
| 18:43.36 | tsdogs | lol |
| 18:44.04 | cr2 | tsdogs: lol. edit the .configure |
| 18:44.21 | cr2 | Peenix: we have an advantage of having the source code here ;) |
| 18:45.02 | tsdogs | cr2: ok but didn't want to go through all that before I know others have it too, maybe it's just my perl version which is doing something strange |
| 18:45.22 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: yes, so i havent tested further |
| 18:45.42 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: ok, then it's a snapshot problem |
| 18:45.59 | goxboxlive | i havent tried downloading the tar ball |
| 18:46.02 | goxboxlive | ican try |
| 18:46.39 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: ok, but if u get my same error it must be a bug. |
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| 18:48.42 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: i downloaded the today source and it extract just fine for me |
| 18:49.04 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: u tryed to configure it? |
| 18:49.10 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: no |
| 18:49.18 | goxboxlive | i cant on ,y laptop |
| 18:49.42 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: I get the problem during the configure... |
| 18:50.41 | goxboxlive | ok, i havent tested. Make sure ljp get noticed about it |
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| 18:57.41 | paulproteus | lol, Peenix! |
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| 21:00.50 | kiozen | cr2: oh my god this bt/gps stuff is lousy!!! |
| 21:01.29 | kiozen | neither linux nor windows manages to switch the device properly from sirfIII to NMEA |
| 21:02.27 | kiozen | the only thin persistant is static navigation :( |
| 21:02.44 | kiozen | s/thin/thing/ |
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| 21:19.17 | cr2 | kiozen: sirfmon ? |
| 21:20.37 | kiozen | sirfmon sucks |
| 21:20.58 | kiozen | cr2: it messes up the interface speed to something unknown |
| 21:21.34 | cr2 | that's true. |
| 21:21.44 | cr2 | i was using my own version. |
| 21:22.01 | kiozen | removing battery helps but then static navigation is back in |
| 21:22.30 | cr2 | because i've found it in the inet, and adapted. even before gpsd had any sirf code ;) |
| 21:22.54 | kiozen | it's hilarious to publish software that does not honor the plug and play character of bt |
| 21:23.22 | cr2 | kiozen: it's "open source" now :) |
| 21:23.57 | kiozen | that is no reason to publish defective software as working version |
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| 21:24.44 | kiozen | there are many hints to that problem but still none of the solutions went into main stream |
| 21:24.54 | majikins | hi-investigating putting linux on my htc universal |
| 21:25.06 | majikins | anyone done this successfully? |
| 21:28.37 | kiozen | cr2: the only consolation: the windows software to solve that problem is equal bad :( |
| 21:30.03 | cr2 | kiozen: hardcode the 57600 speed for sirf |
| 21:30.20 | cr2 | majikins: successfully ? |
| 21:30.53 | kiozen | cr2: it's not the problem to get into sirfII mode, it's the problem to get out of it into a sane NMEA state |
| 21:31.49 | cr2 | isn't there a 'switch to nmea' binary sirf command ? |
| 21:32.12 | cr2 | the only problem is with setting the speed, i don't know how it's honored by firmware |
| 21:32.22 | cr2 | nmea standard speed is 4800 |
| 21:32.29 | kiozen | well sirfmon doc says :http://gpsd.berlios.de/sirfmon.html |
| 21:33.07 | majikins | what I meant is, has anyone installed and run it on this device |
| 21:33.58 | cr2 | kiozen: "at current speed" |
| 21:34.15 | majikins | I've looked at handhelds.org which directs me to linuxtogo.org for more information but that site seems dead? |
| 21:34.30 | cr2 | majikins: yes, it works last i've tried. |
| 21:34.33 | kiozen | cr2: using b command fuck up the device |
| 21:35.01 | majikins | dead meaning I can't get to it |
| 21:35.05 | cr2 | kiozen: i've not looked at the source for ages. i have my old copy somewhere in the zaurus flash. |
| 21:35.12 | cr2 | majikins: i'll check |
| 21:35.50 | cr2 | majikins: yeah, it seems dead right now. |
| 21:36.19 | majikins | cool-which site do I go to for howto and so forth? |
| 21:36.19 | majikins | thanks |
| 21:36.20 | majikins | try again in a few hours? |
| 21:36.22 | cr2 | kiozen: btw, sirf binary at 4800 is silly. |
| 21:36.25 | cr2 | majikins: yes. |
| 21:36.52 | cr2 | kiozen: n 4800 would have been a good idea. |
| 21:38.05 | majikins | thank you cr2 |
| 21:38.25 | kiozen | cr2: does not work :( |
| 21:38.46 | cr2 | kiozen: if it'd been implemented ;) |
| 21:39.15 | cr2 | it's trivial to do i guess |
| 21:39.17 | kiozen | this whole bt stuff is broken and not ready for users |
| 21:39.41 | cr2 | in general ? |
| 21:40.05 | cr2 | it's broken by design |
| 21:40.06 | kiozen | why do I have to do a "rfconn bind ..."? |
| 21:40.51 | kiozen | If I switch on the gps I expect a /dev/ttyXXX whatever ready working |
| 21:41.29 | kiozen | kbluetooth does not work at all |
| 21:41.34 | cr2 | bt is not only about the serial port, that's the problem. |
| 21:41.46 | kiozen | the hci... stuff seems to work |
| 21:41.46 | cr2 | hm. works for me here. |
| 21:42.01 | kiozen | usb is not just serial too, and works |
| 21:43.13 | BabelO | hi |
| 21:43.20 | cr2 | usb is not over radio. |
| 21:43.46 | kiozen | the channel is not of interest. both are plug and pray |
| 21:43.54 | cr2 | :) |
| 21:44.07 | cr2 | i agree. |
| 21:44.53 | kiozen | any other idea how to tell that f... sirfIII to switch of static navigation? |
| 21:45.12 | goxboxlive | kiozen: you are a gps guy. I have a gps on ttyS2, how can i see the nmea output with gpsd? |
| 21:45.33 | kiozen | gpsd -p /dev/ttyS2 |
| 21:45.51 | kiozen | and then "telnet localhost 2947" |
| 21:46.00 | kiozen | next "r" return |
| 21:46.20 | goxboxlive | thx, i''l try |
| 21:46.41 | kiozen | but you should check with "cat /dev/ttyS2" first if the port is in a sane state |
| 21:46.55 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:47.06 | snakefeak | all have problems with gps. its amazing. |
| 21:47.06 | kiozen | :) |
| 21:48.22 | goxboxlive | kiozen: ttyS2 is dead |
| 21:48.27 | goxboxlive | i have the modules loaded |
| 21:48.33 | cr2 | kiozen: stty -F /dev/ttyS2 first |
| 21:48.41 | goxboxlive | mioa701_gps 2592 1 |
| 21:49.26 | cr2 | goxboxlive: stty -F /dev/ttyS2 speed 4800 |
| 21:49.29 | cr2 | before cat |
| 21:50.37 | goxboxlive | root@mioa701:/etc/ipkg# stty -F /dev/ttyS2 speed 4800 |
| 21:50.37 | goxboxlive | 9600 |
| 21:50.38 | goxboxlive | ?? |
| 21:50.57 | goxboxlive | but gpsd -p is not working |
| 21:51.07 | kiozen | does cat work? |
| 21:51.14 | goxboxlive | nope |
| 21:51.24 | kiozen | than gpsd can't either |
| 21:51.46 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it's on stuart ? |
| 21:51.54 | snakefeak | on wich device you all work? |
| 21:52.15 | goxboxlive | cr2: i think it is on ttyS2 |
| 21:52.27 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'll check wiki |
| 21:52.30 | goxboxlive | cr2: http://82.243.122.54/download/mio_a701/rootfs/home/root/bin/nmea.sh |
| 21:52.36 | cr2 | snakefeak: many devices. |
| 21:53.04 | cr2 | goxboxlive: wtf is that ? |
| 21:53.14 | cr2 | goxboxlive: sirf2nmea switch ? |
| 21:53.15 | goxboxlive | ?? you ask me i ask you |
| 21:53.39 | snakefeak | i work on and with ba. but its really Difficult because touch^^ |
| 21:53.40 | cr2 | goxboxlive: try sirfmon |
| 21:53.46 | goxboxlive | this failes http://82.243.122.54/download/mio_a701/rootfs/home/root/bin/decode_hexa.sh |
| 21:54.14 | cr2 | a hack. |
| 21:54.20 | cr2 | try sirfmon |
| 21:56.01 | goxboxlive | what is sirfmon, it doesnt exist in OE |
| 21:57.42 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it's part of gpsd |
| 21:58.31 | goxboxlive | ok, it's not included |
| 21:58.57 | kiozen | yes, same with SuSE, I had to compile gpsd |
| 21:59.57 | goxboxlive | [ 15.700000] MioA701 gps: GPS turned on. |
| 22:00.49 | goxboxlive | if it's not ttyS2 what else could it be? |
| 22:02.30 | goxboxlive | it's running |
| 22:05.47 | cr2 | what is running ? :) |
| 22:07.50 | goxboxlive | root@mioa701:~# cat /dev/ttyS2 |
| 22:07.50 | goxboxlive | <644>0<>A 6<Imn<4 4< A6<44<607[66>40<<4>0 |
| 22:08.04 | goxboxlive | telnet doesnt work |
| 22:08.07 | cr2 | goxboxlive: use 'od -x' |
| 22:08.27 | cr2 | od -x /dev/ttyS2 |
| 22:08.33 | cr2 | it's the binary protocol |
| 22:08.59 | goxboxlive | oot@mioa701:~# od -x /dev/ttyS2 |
| 22:08.59 | goxboxlive | 0000000 9241 d8b6 d1bc 94be 9cd0 83fd b6bc 2c5a |
| 22:09.03 | goxboxlive | and a lot |
| 22:09.09 | goxboxlive | of other numbers |
| 22:12.30 | cr2 | goxboxlive: start gpsd now, with -d 6 |
| 22:12.38 | cr2 | i think :) |
| 22:12.47 | cr2 | so it logs in syslog |
| 22:13.36 | cr2 | -D |
| 22:14.32 | *** join/#htc-linux rmoravcik (n=rmoravci@ip-89-102-255-171.karneval.cz) |
| 22:16.32 | goxboxlive | but sstill no outputs |
| 22:17.45 | cr2 | telnet localhost 2947 |
| 22:18.38 | goxboxlive | it seems like it runs a little with od -x and then stop |
| 22:19.51 | cr2 | strange. |
| 22:20.13 | goxboxlive | i dont get any /var/log/messages |
| 22:20.16 | cr2 | it should be an endless loop, even if you don't have a fix |
| 22:20.21 | cr2 | ok. try |
| 22:20.31 | cr2 | stty -F /dev/ttyS2 speed 57600 |
| 22:20.36 | cr2 | od -x /dev/ttyS2 |
| 22:21.24 | goxboxlive | yes it doesnt stop now |
| 22:21.32 | goxboxlive | now it runs with od -x |
| 22:22.54 | goxboxlive | maybe i need to change some ownership of ttyS2 |
| 22:23.36 | goxboxlive | cr2: now it's working with gpsd. I guess 57600 was the correct speed |
| 22:23.49 | goxboxlive | i have a fix allready |
| 22:24.03 | cr2 | yes, it's standard with sirf binary. |
| 22:24.21 | goxboxlive | cr2: but how do i know if i use nmea or sirf? |
| 22:24.47 | cr2 | you should not care. |
| 22:25.06 | cr2 | it's gpsd's business |
| 22:28.18 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:28.31 | goxboxlive | testing rodmap |
| 22:30.05 | goxboxlive | what is the correct to set in roadmap |
| 22:30.09 | goxboxlive | i cant set ttyS2 |
| 22:30.13 | goxboxlive | as gps port |
| 22:30.25 | cr2 | localhost |
| 22:30.42 | cr2 | you don't need to know the port. |
| 22:30.47 | cr2 | it's gpsd config |
| 22:31.34 | goxboxlive | ok again |
| 22:32.42 | goxboxlive | invalid protocol in url localhost |
| 22:33.52 | goxboxlive | oh yes |
| 22:33.58 | goxboxlive | roadmap is working |
| 22:34.08 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, What hardware? |
| 22:34.21 | goxboxlive | mioa701 |
| 22:34.44 | cr2 | gpsd://localhost |
| 22:34.49 | goxboxlive | i know |
| 22:35.23 | paulproteus | Hmm, looks nice and thin compared to Uni. |
| 22:35.31 | cr2 | does it point you to your map location ? |
| 22:36.04 | cr2 | roadmap config is an example of the real geek insanity :) |
| 22:36.12 | goxboxlive | cr2: i dont have any maps now |
| 22:36.23 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the Oslo map i've sent you ? |
| 22:36.35 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes, but i dont have it on my device |
| 22:36.41 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:36.52 | cr2 | you can preinstall it in your image. |
| 22:36.53 | goxboxlive | i can upload it |
| 22:36.54 | cr2 | it's free. |
| 22:36.58 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:37.09 | goxboxlive | yes i know, but i am the only geek in Norway |
| 22:37.18 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:37.38 | paulproteus | lol, goxboxlive |
| 22:38.02 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 22:38.41 | goxboxlive | seems like the gps is quite good on the mio, it recieve inside where my NEO didnt get any signals |
| 22:39.48 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: it's allmost the same size as magician |
| 22:40.03 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Ah, okay |
| 22:42.18 | rakeem | Is the mio one of those non-htc devices? |
| 22:42.36 | goxboxlive | rakeem: i dont know actually who made it |
| 22:42.46 | cr2 | paulproteus: is the osm map good in your area ? |
| 22:42.59 | paulproteus | cr2, I don't have any GPS hardware so I haven't looked into it very well. |
| 22:43.11 | paulproteus | Let me check on the WWW. |
| 22:43.14 | rakeem | I've seen them around here.... Kinda reminds me of the Gigabyte units... |
| 22:43.30 | cr2 | paulproteus: roadmap is ok as a viewer too. and for address search, if it's built. |
| 22:45.53 | rakeem | Hey, cr2... I tried flashing a different GSM "radio stack" to my Uni, but it's still the same. Do you think it's worth rolling back to WM5 in case there's some weird interaction? |
| 22:45.55 | paulproteus | http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.78687&lon=-122.39942&zoom=16&layers=B0FT - looks pretty good. |
| 22:46.50 | paulproteus | Hah, they label bars. |
| 22:47.42 | cr2 | rakeem: i've reflashed mine back to wince5 |
| 22:47.56 | *** join/#htc-linux dcordes (n=user0815@e179096033.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:48.08 | rakeem | paulproteus: Can't I'm afraid. My desktop machine's in about the same state as my Uni: New motherboard, so I just transplanted the drive. I must've spent about 5 hours trying to get X running. Still in 70's mode... 8-( |
| 22:48.26 | paulproteus | rakeem, What distro? |
| 22:48.28 | cr2 | paulproteus: it's TIGER |
| 22:48.36 | paulproteus | cr2, Yeah, I figured as much. |
| 22:48.39 | paulproteus | Go TIGER! |
| 22:49.24 | rakeem | paulproteus: Please tell me you have a binary! FC6: 2.6.20 / 2.6.22 |
| 22:49.44 | paulproteus | rakeem, A binary for what? |
| 22:49.57 | paulproteus | I run Ubuntu and Debian mostly, though I have an emulated FC8 machine I'm building a FC8 live DVD on right now. |
| 22:50.41 | rakeem | Doh... Tired... I meant for my Intel GMA chip... |
| 22:52.29 | paulproteus | rakeem, Hmm, it should be easy enough to upgrade to Fedora 7 or 8 that will surely have a driver. |
| 22:52.33 | paulproteus | Or to just install Debian or Ubuntu. (-; |
| 22:53.00 | paulproteus | BTW, it's very brave of you to come onto IRC without a graphical client. (-: |
| 22:53.28 | rakeem | I think it's a toss-up between Debs and Fedora just 'cos I know that they've most things covered. Am I right in thinking that Ubuntu is pre-schoolers Debian? |
| 22:54.01 | paulproteus | Well, I run Ubuntu *and* Debian: Ubuntu on laptop, Debian on desktop. |
| 22:54.11 | paulproteus | Well, plus Ubuntu on my roommate's desktop. |
| 22:54.24 | paulproteus | Pre-schooler's isn't right. "Integrated and optimized for a fun GNOME time" is closer. |
| 22:54.38 | paulproteus | BTW this Debian desktop uses the Ubuntu GNOME theme still. |
| 22:57.07 | rakeem | paulproteus: I always use this client (irssi), 'cos I can run it on my router and leave my machine off, with the added bonus of SSHing in (and using screen) from the Uni over GPRS. Helps me compensate for the time difference with most of you.... |
| 22:57.16 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 22:57.25 | paulproteus | I'm pretty attached to X-Chat. |
| 22:58.33 | goxboxlive | cr2: i added a map, works fine |
| 22:59.23 | dcordes | rakeem: do you still have your spare blueangel? |
| 22:59.55 | rakeem | One thing I'd like to do, with a clearer head, is pick everybody's brains, and try to put together a leech's guide to cross-compiling (common issues and solutions)... |
| 23:02.53 | rakeem | Hey, dcordes... I saw you asking in the logs, you must have just missed me... Unfortunately, the BA is somewhat toast. A mate spazzed out in the pub and drowned it. I gave it a good baptism in distilled water, followed by 72 hours to dry. There's life, but not as I once knew it... |
| 23:03.45 | rakeem | Saying that though, there's at least 2 more in the shop... I took one back because of a wobbly USB port... |
| 23:04.29 | cr2 | goxboxlive: nice. i need to fix the buildindex to allow the countries. |
| 23:04.30 | dcordes | is that common, putting mobiles into destilled water to clean them? |
| 23:05.44 | dcordes | I openned my laptop completely yesterday and got out tons of dust |
| 23:05.49 | dcordes | now it's like new ^^ |
| 23:06.26 | rakeem | A month or two back they were HK$1,200 (HK$1 = US$7.78)... Yeah, it's counterintuitive, but quite effective. Tear out the battery and drown it. |
| 23:08.19 | rakeem | Hey, after the Uni and BA, which device is comes next in the compatibility stakes? |
| 23:09.50 | dcordes | I guess heremes is a candidate |
| 23:11.03 | rakeem | What's the main thing missing? |
| 23:11.09 | dcordes | ATI chip |
| 23:11.17 | dcordes | which provides many components |
| 23:11.31 | rakeem | Ah... Not just speedier GFX then? |
| 23:11.38 | dcordes | not just that |
| 23:11.45 | dcordes | cr2: is the man to ask |
| 23:11.49 | rakeem | What else does it do? |
| 23:11.59 | dcordes | I can't tell exactly |
| 23:15.41 | rakeem | Yeah, he was telling me the other day, that the Uni has less VRAM than the LCD needs. System RAM as FB?! No ATI chip?! Yet the BA does get the ATi chip despite having a quarter of the work to do... |
| 23:17.12 | dcordes | htc hermes is lacking ati support |
| 23:20.12 | goxboxlive | cr2: i have to send stty -F to have the gps working. Why doesnt it remeber the port setting. It defaults down to 4800 |
| 23:20.30 | goxboxlive | id it a gpsd setting maybe |
| 23:21.18 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it _was_ a gpsd setting. |
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| 23:21.38 | cr2 | but some opensource people wanted to do it plug'n'pray |
| 23:22.00 | cr2 | which become a miserable failure. |
| 23:25.32 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 23:25.41 | goxboxlive | too bad |
| 23:25.48 | goxboxlive | i have to make a script then |
| 23:26.00 | goxboxlive | well it's late good night |
| 23:26.49 | cr2 | good night |
| 23:48.19 | rakeem | Is there an known trick to reuse a GPE rootfs from my BA on the Uni? |