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04:25.04rakeemI've given up. I'm thick.  Can I beg for someone to SSH into my device and do what I'm obviously too stupid to do myself?
04:25.41paulproteusWhat is that?
04:26.35rakeemGPRS on the Uni....
04:28.05rakeemI've even tried flashing different GSM / Radio stacks....  Either I'm dumb or I've got some weird, hitherto unknown hardware rev.
04:28.56paulproteusrakeem, Ah, I see.
04:29.00paulproteusrakeem, I'm afraid I don't know myself.
04:29.05paulproteusymerejt or goxboxlive might know.
04:29.09paulproteusYou're using Qtopia?
04:29.48rakeemGPE, but with a new kernel...
04:30.16paulproteusI've been meaning to find out also, but I left my Uni at my friend's place.
04:32.01rakeemIt's the last piece of the puzzle I think...   Then I can use the autorun thingy to reduce CE to nothing but a bloated bootloader...  Yay!
04:32.27rakeemWhat device are you running currently?
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04:44.57paulproteusrakeem, Yay (-:
04:45.08paulproteusrakeem, I'm just using some cheesy Motorola non-smartphone I'm borrowing from a friend.
04:50.46rakeemThose moto's are pretty shite.  I think they've finally called it quits with the phone business altogether...
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06:26.00dcordes_hey rakeem
06:27.02dcordes_I barely bought a hermes yesterday and then remembered you said you could get me old used blueangel real cheap
06:27.17dcordes_do you still have it?
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10:21.52goxboxlivecr2: what is this? http://pastebin.no/3358
10:31.09cr2hm. never seen before
10:31.50goxboxliveHMM
10:32.47goxboxliveI just dont get it, the kernel build just fine manually, but in OE it doesnt.
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11:39.30goxboxlivecr2: now i know whats going on. You have forgot to aply the header filr for mioa701 (mioa7101.h)
12:21.58cr2goxboxlive: i think it should go into include/asm-arm/arch-pxa
12:24.20goxboxlivecr2: yes, thats true, but it's not there: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/
12:29.20cr2goxboxlive: hm. ok, i'll check.
12:31.24cr2goxboxlive: yes, i'll fix it.
12:31.49goxboxlivethx
12:41.53cr2goxboxlive: fixed.
12:42.16goxboxlivethx
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13:00.57goxboxlivecr2: it still doesnt build. I guess i need to have local hacks like the ones in the patch.
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13:21.41cr2kiozen: your OSM math in GT looked a bit strange, when i've looked yesterday.
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13:31.12kiozencr2: it's still the basic formula from the OSM page
13:31.21kiozenno optimization
13:31.41cr2kiozen: the numbers, not the optimization.
13:32.03kiozenok, what's the problem?
13:32.04cr2kiozen: about the pixel size in a zoom level.
13:32.31cr2kiozen: i understand it so: the earth width=earth length
13:32.43cr2the earth width= 2*pi*R
13:32.57kiozenyes for -180..180 and -90..90
13:33.10kiozenbut tiles are for -85..-85
13:33.18cr2where R=6378137 meters.
13:33.28cr2latitude is not important
13:33.40cr2because the pixels are square
13:34.08cr2so if you have 2^z of 256pix tiles in zoom level 'z'
13:34.11kiozenhm I used proj4 to convert lon/lat to m
13:34.35cr2you only need to divide 2*pi*R/256/2^z to calculate the m/pix
13:35.51cr2proj4 is ok for cs2cs, but for the basic spherical mercator as used by not evil company, you can check yourself.
13:36.26cr285° comes out of the lat width=lon width.
13:36.45kiozenthat's what I am doing: 2*pi*R = 40075016
13:37.50cr2hm. ok.
13:38.06cr2i got some different numbers, need to check.
13:39.16cr2double resy = (40074942.42 / ((1<<zoom) * 256)); ?
13:39.43kiozen40075016 would be -90..90
13:39.51kiozen40074942. -85..85
13:40.09cr2double resx = (40075016.68 / ((1<<zoom) * 256));
13:40.13cr2this is ok.
13:40.25cr2the pixels are square.
13:40.28kiozensure that is -180..180
13:40.32cr285 is approximate.
13:40.47cr2resy should be =resx
13:41.51cr2that's the point.
13:43.24kiozenhm, after reading the stuff from OSM I am not sure if resx == rexy
13:46.53cr2then OSM is wrong.
13:47.11cr2which will not surprise me.
13:47.46kiozenhm, hard to tell it depens on what they realy do in their render software
13:48.15kiozenerror is ~1px thus it's hard to tell
13:50.27cr285.05112877980659 if you want to do it a bit better :)
13:50.52cr2but that is actually derived from resx=resy
13:53.51kiozenanyway without knowing what OSM actually does, it's hard to do it "right",
13:55.07cr2OSM should do the same as google & yahoo & m$ , for mashups to be perfect
13:56.23cr2the OSM wiki stuff about it is very confusing, and there were multiple implementation bugs too.
13:57.12kiozenok let's decide on resx = resy as it sounds kind of sane :)
13:57.39kiozensvn up!
13:57.44cr2i'm thinking about creating a pro-GIS faction in OSM :)
13:57.46cr2ok.
13:58.23kiozencurrent version has first basic track support
13:58.36kiozenyou can load tracks from gpx
13:58.51kiozenno saving no exchange sofar
13:59.20kiozenbtw qwt is too bloated I prefer my own lightweight classes
13:59.21cr2ok.
13:59.36cr2good.
13:59.52cr2have you looked at beelinegps ?
14:00.14cr2you'd make it easy to create such plugins in M
14:00.34kiozenyes I know it, it has a quite nice reputation
14:01.08kiozenhm I always wonder if I should start with plugins
14:01.12cr2i'm certainly would like to have a coordinate averager for waypoints (in XYZ or select some GK). to do land survey :)
14:02.30kiozenat geoclub.de someone wondered why Excel explodes when he tries to average 10000 points
14:02.52kiozenand why the result is still not exact
14:03.15cr2lol
14:03.36kiozenbut averageing about 10 points in the GPSr is sane
14:03.54kiozenI usually do it when hiding a cache
14:04.07cr2you start with XYZ_0 and average the differences.
14:04.18cr2over the day or so :)
14:05.12kiozenlet's see, usually you record ten points in a minute and that's it
14:05.28cr2a real postprocessor will be even better, but i don't know if gpstk is so good. or if any other free software exists.
14:05.54kiozenthat is a job for GT
14:06.36kiozenthe binary format of M/GT is pretty flexible and appendable for all kind of side information
14:06.58kiozenwithout loosing cmpatibility
14:06.58cr2with +-50m deviations and 10point the errors are only ~/sqrt(10) smaller
14:07.26cr2GT as postprocessor . yes, maybe.
14:07.34kiozen+-50m hell that would be bad!
14:07.42cr2with rinex logs :)
14:07.51kiozenIt's usually better
14:08.01cr2kiozen: it's a normal value in a forest.
14:08.12kiozenwith a bad unit
14:08.18cr276cx
14:08.23kiozenI do better with my 60scx
14:08.52kiozenthe worst I get is along cliffs and it's ~20m
14:08.55cr2it's the sat position and their number (daytime & such).
14:09.43kiozenI am always better than 20m. Can't do geocaching with less
14:10.07kiozenbut yes the receiver of the 60scx is amazing
14:10.08cr2the ionospheric correction with 1frequency receivers is not really good.
14:10.20cr260scx=76cx
14:10.32kiozenbut then it must be better
14:10.45cr2it's the worst values i've seen.
14:11.21kiozenI am always amazed how accurate it is finding plastic boxes in the woods
14:11.21cr2and you should not believe in the garmin's +- values ;)
14:11.43kiozenbut I believe in plastic boxes :)
14:11.47cr2:)
14:12.25kiozengeocaching with the 60scx is like be under remote control
14:13.03kiozens/be/being/
14:13.27cr2i want the survey accuracy. even if it takes some measurement time.
14:14.39kiozenwell, there are those guys, sometimes with a rucksack and a big antenna. You just have to.... ;)
14:15.20cr2they usually have 2frequency recv.
14:15.59kiozenyes that is what I mean, there was one of them right infront my office a couple of month agao
14:16.17kiozenbut I stayed nice :)
14:16.50cr2LOL
14:17.53cr2"it's not personal, i just need a 2frequency receiver" :)
14:19.24kiozenright :)
14:20.23kiozenhttp://shop.strato.de/epages/61250948.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61250948/Products/GPS-TR-GXT-RT&ViewAction=ViewProductDetailImage
14:20.35kiozenthat should be more of your taste
14:21.14cr2"Miete" ? it's probably more per day than a 60/76cx costs :)
14:21.32kiozen84.-€ per day
14:21.40cr2i've heard you can buy them for ~$260 on ebay.
14:21.44cr2in the us.
14:21.52cr2ok.
14:22.15kiozenno it's84.- a week
14:22.31cr2kiozen: lol, it runs wince ?
14:22.38cr2what a waste...
14:22.47kiozenyes like all trimbels
14:22.59cr2i'd like to see a haret.log :)
14:23.12kiozenhttp://shop.strato.de/epages/61250948.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61250948/Products/GPS-TR-GXT-RT
14:23.14kiozenget one
14:23.45cr2<PROTECTED>
14:23.48cr2that's cheap.
14:24.03cr2i can do it myself that way.
14:24.23cr2Der Neupreis liegt bei 4500 Euro
14:24.33cr2lol, that's an overpriced wince pda.
14:25.04kiozenwell that is trimel
14:25.14kiozenhttp://shop.strato.de/epages/61250948.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61250948/Categories/Vermessung
14:25.46cr2kiozen: somebody should do the screenshots. does it run arcpad ?
14:26.02cr2then i'd like to compile qgis for qtopia ;)
14:26.29kiozendon't know. just know the shop owners
14:26.44kiozenit's their fault that I do GPS software :)
14:27.22cr2yes, it seems you'll put a lot of lusers out of the business.
14:27.27cr2with my evil help :)
14:28.20kiozenhm, so far the economical impact is rather small
14:28.30cr2i mean, $30 for a copy of beelinegps.
14:28.53kiozenthere is Cachewolf, much better and free
14:28.58cr2or $85 for ozice with its crippled formats.
14:29.19kiozenhttp://www.cachewolf.de/wiki/pmwiki.php
14:30.15kiozenbut they are all pda apps with no itelligent power management
14:30.38cr2CacheWolf is for wince ?
14:31.02kiozenyes as usual
14:31.19cr2something for cegcc then :)
14:31.20kiozencr2: well it's java
14:31.26cr2heh.
14:31.38kiozenand is supposed to work for linux, too
14:31.52kiozensee download section
14:32.16kiozenbut I only know wince users
14:32.49cr2yes, it's java with some weird wm.
14:34.18kiozenit's pretty famous
14:34.42cr2ok.
14:34.58kiozenmore than beelinegps, or the TTQV
14:35.06cr2hm. i have an interesting problem now.
14:35.25cr2imagine i have a google-compatible geotiff
14:35.52cr2sph. mercator with the right R, and an appropriate m/pix
14:36.27goxboxlivecr2: still one file missing in the source: mioa701_bootresume.S
14:36.29cr2how do i align it with transparency to the tile borders for this zoom level
14:36.35goxboxlivewhy S and not c?
14:36.43cr2goxboxlive: ok.
14:37.03cr2goxboxlive: it's a resume hack. it can be redone as inline asm in .c
14:37.14goxboxliveok
14:37.17cr2imho, it's better
14:37.43cr2kiozen: maybe gdal* tools can do it, i'll check later today.
14:38.39cr2kiozen: i've hit one more gdal bug yesterday. a segfault, if an image has <=2 GCPs.
14:39.06kiozenthere are loads of errors, I can't compress large geotiffs
14:39.27kiozengdalwarp always failes after 30 somewhat tiles
14:39.43cr2it seems i need to mess with the qgis reoferencer gui files to add the projection ;)
14:39.53cr2don't compress while warping.
14:40.15cr2don't run gdaladdo on non-8bit paletted geotiffs.
14:40.48cr2i had to rectify some .jpeg tiles.
14:41.00kiozeni do not have anything else than 8bit palette:)
14:41.07cr2couldn't do anything better than convert .jpeg .gif
14:41.35cr2hm. then it's strange.
14:41.50kiozenI simply would like to move my 1:200000 map from GK3 to gk4
14:42.07cr2so what have you done ?
14:42.28cr2that's why i'm a spherical mercator fan, btw :)
14:42.36kiozenused gdalwarp to do the transformation -> no problem
14:42.43kiozenbut no compression
14:42.44cr2ok.
14:42.55kiozenthat I tried to tile -> crash
14:43.04cr2yes, then run gdal_translate -co
14:43.15kiozenok
14:43.17cr2is the transformed image 8bit ?
14:43.44kiozen<es
14:43.46kiozenyes
14:43.55cr2then it's strange.
14:58.35cr2kiozen: "your sytem's" :)
14:59.14kiozen?
14:59.35cr2sytem
14:59.38kiozenbtw, gdal_translate did the trick
14:59.47cr2ok.
15:00.04cr2the track is loaded ok.
15:00.12kiozenwhere "sytem"
15:00.14kiozen?
15:00.25cr2can i change the color and switch off drawing the segments ?
15:00.36kiozennot yet
15:00.44cr2setup->config->time
15:00.57kiozenahh :)
15:01.09cr2the segments off is important for very long tracks.
15:01.34cr2i miss that feature in merkaartor osm editor too
15:02.50kiozensvn up
15:03.14kiozenI applied the same assumptions on the Np value now
15:03.30cr2enjoying the track overlay so far :)
15:04.37kiozenyes, but still loads to do, tracks are the most compilcated elements to overlay
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15:09.11Snake_krankhi all
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15:25.41Snake_krankCan someone tell me where I have a shell script has to be positioned at the start of the system is loaded?
15:25.52Snake_krankgrml
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17:02.12Snake_krankcan anyone help me to solve problems on ba? with alsamixer and i need startup script for bluetooth.
17:03.59tsdogsSnake_krank: what's the prob?
17:04.56Snake_krankon alsamixer i have to set output mux to mixer every reboot and every time i closed gomunicator.
17:05.13Snake_krankalsactl store doesnt work
17:05.44tsdogsSnake_krank: do you already know how to restore this settings?
17:05.57Snake_krankasound.state in /etc is corect
17:06.22Snake_krankno not really how?^^
17:06.42tsdogsSnake_krank: u sure is "store" what u need and not "restore"?
17:07.43Snake_krankyes but when its stored and i close gomunicator and open it again then the setting is the old (outoutmux direct.
17:07.46Snake_krank)
17:08.37tsdogsso it must be something in the gomunicator, goxboxlive whould probably know better
17:08.51Snake_krankok thx
17:09.06tsdogsafair u have more alsa configuration files which are loaded when a special situation occurs
17:09.37Snake_krankand i need to know how to run a command on startup
17:09.50Snake_krankhciattach /dev/ttyS3 any
17:10.04tsdogswell on startup it's easy, it'a linux so you have a full init
17:10.36Snake_krankyes but iam noob^^
17:11.03Snake_kranki know what init is hand what they do but not how to make this runing
17:11.22tsdogsjust put a script that calls it  to the /etc/init.d/
17:12.37tsdogsor better u can put it at the end of /etc/rc.local
17:13.03cr2hi tsdogs
17:13.05tsdogshmm no sorry rc.local does not exsist on angstorm
17:13.10tsdogscr2: hi
17:13.24Snake_krankok i make a file hci.sh
17:13.41tsdogsyou can put it at the end of /etc/init.d/rcS though
17:14.21cr2tsdogs: i've converted a map for a guy from Thailand from official data. the polygon names in their funny script look nice :)
17:14.40tsdogsfunny script? :)
17:14.53cr2thai
17:14.59tsdogsho :)
17:15.31cr2there were 2 columns: english and thai names. i've used the native one.
17:15.59cr2that prevents stupid coding.
17:16.33cr2now i need to convert 'buildus' into 'buildwidx'
17:16.49tsdogscr2: I see kiozen is proceding fast with M, do u plan to add routing support to it?
17:17.07cr2because it's allergic to utf8, and i'm tired of inventing pseudocounty names.
17:17.29cr2no, it's a raster gps program.
17:18.05cr2routing should stay a plugin, even in the roadmap.
17:18.17Snake_kranktsdogs do you speak german?
17:18.40tsdogscr2: ok, Iwas wandering why of all this gps/map apps, and not concentrate on one...
17:18.47tsdogsSnake_krank: nope, cr2 does :)
17:18.58Snake_kranki dont know wwhat to do.
17:19.12Snake_krankcr2 kannst du mir helfen?
17:19.14cr2imho, we don't actually need the graph data in .rdm, but we need to fix namesearch and city names.
17:19.45cr2Snake_krank: mit gpe ?
17:20.02tsdogsSnake_krank: create a hci.sh, then create a link to it like ln -s /etc/init.d/hci.sh /etc/rc5.d/S99hci
17:20.14Snake_krankich möchte folgendes komando beim start ausführen lassen.:
17:20.32Snake_krankhciattach /dev/ttyS3 any
17:21.17Snake_krankhabe nun eine leere datei namens hci.sh
17:21.27Snake_krankwas kommt dort nun rein?
17:21.29cr2ok, du schreibst dann 'hciattach /dev/ttyS3 any' in hci.sh
17:21.41Snake_krankah ok
17:21.43tsdogscr2: city names are in the map so it's only a matter of displaying them (and in the right place too :)
17:21.44cr2echo 'hciattach /dev/ttyS3 any' > hci.sh
17:22.06cr2so geht es am einfachsten
17:22.09Snake_krankdas war das was ich nicht verstanden hab^^
17:24.50cr2Snake_krank: und du willst auf dem niveau das gpe ans laufen bringen ? :)
17:25.27Snake_kranknein bin schon ganz zu frieden wie es läuft.
17:25.50Snake_krankwenn ich telefonieren kann ist alles gut^^
17:26.38cr2Snake_krank: wie haben da noch einige probleme zu lösen ...
17:26.57Snake_krankund bluetooth (gps) und wlang gehen ja schon. aber alles per befehle in der konsole. hatte noch nie mit init oder scripten zu tun.
17:27.45cr2tsdogs: can you fix the landmark label font size and color ?
17:29.11Snake_krankcr2 ja das mit dem touchscreen ist auch noch problematisch^^
17:32.39cr2Snake_krank: leider ist es schon seit langem so ;) BabelO kämpft mit der grafischen oberfläche, and auch mit dem touchscreen-treiber. gestern wollte es einiges an dem treiber rückgängig machen ;-)
17:33.55cr2Snake_krank: wir sollten lieber aufhören. der channel sollte für alle lesbar bleiben.
17:34.43Snake_krankok
17:35.09Snake_kranki can read english near perfectly but writing is very bad.
17:35.10Snake_krank^^
17:36.07cr2ok. there is always place for improvement.
17:38.34Snake_krankcan i  abort startup screen to view boot outputs?
17:39.50cr2with angstrom ?
17:40.25cr2it was something like splash=no in the kernel command line.
17:42.31Snake_krankyes anstrom
17:42.43Snake_krankthe hciattach does not work
17:42.50cr2what is your kernel command line in haret ?
17:43.06Snake_krankwait secound
17:44.41Snake_krankset KERNEL "sImage.bin"
17:45.04Snake_krankz
17:45.08Snake_kranknot s^^
17:45.24cr2it's the kernel
17:46.33cr2set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 mem=128M rootdelay=5"
17:46.39cr2do you have something like that ?
17:47.38Snake_krankyes
17:47.43Snake_krankplease wait
17:48.31Snake_krankits from alge ^^ set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 mem=128M rootdelay=15 ts-adc.debug=1 ts-adc.sample_timeout=40 ts-adc.max_jitter=6 ts-adc.min_pressure=2 ts-adc.xy_window_size=1 ts-adc.num_xy_samples=10 ts-adc.z_window_size=1 ts-adc.num_z_samples=3 ts-adc.pressure_factor=100000 adc-battery.sample_timeout=-1 ro"
17:48.56cr2ok. add ' psplash=no' at the end.
17:49.16cr2or psplash=0
17:49.25cr2i don#t remember.
17:50.48Snake_krankok
17:51.25Snake_kranki go sleep thank you a lot.
17:53.38cr2good night.
18:00.35tsdogscr2: yes, I'll use pois.labels ...
18:04.39cr2ok.
18:09.00BabelOalready sleep ? :)
18:09.15BabelOtsdogs: did you try my messenger app ?
18:09.42BabelOcr2: it seem i m not able to boot ba with latest hh kernel tag
18:09.58tsdogsBabelO: nope
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18:13.39BabelOtsdogs: it is multi protocols too :) just need multi protocols simultaneous
18:14.29tsdogsI've seen it though, nice work btw
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18:15.42cr2BabelO: you think i've broken something ?
18:16.12BabelOcr2: no, not you, ithink alge told me that latest hh had problem some week ago
18:16.14cr2BabelO: ah, with the 'tag'
18:16.21cr2ok.
18:16.39cr2n560 works.
18:16.40BabelOcr2: it just display jump to kernel and stay here, i ve to roll abck to thing the good tag
18:16.51cr2i need to check the linload.exe
18:17.06BabelOcr2: suspend / resume too ?
18:17.12cr2yes, that's nice about the tags.
18:17.20cr2no, not yet.
18:17.34cr2some devices use really bizarre reboot schemes.
18:17.40cr2ba too ;)
18:17.59cr2universal is really simple here.
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18:18.21BabelOcr2: reboot command work on universal ?
18:18.35cr2BabelO: worked last i've tried
18:18.46cr2the kernel compiled by goxboxlive
18:18.50cr2hi diogene31
18:18.55diogene31cr2: hi there.
18:19.15cr2diogene31: i've made some minor changes to a701 kernel
18:19.21BabelOcr2: can you help me to figure why my new computer lose date/time on power off ? bad RTC driver ? i think it is
18:19.27BabelOhi diogene31
18:19.36cr2diogene31: can you boot it ?
18:19.41cr2BabelO: new computer ?
18:19.43diogene31cr2: Good, improvements, in which field ?
18:20.20cr2diogene31: #include  <asm/arch/mioa701.h>
18:20.21BabelOcr2: yes ;) very fast, but time is always bad when i shut it off
18:20.40cr2BabelO: you use the rtc driver ?
18:20.47diogene31cr2: Very good. Will check in.
18:21.34cr2diogene31: but there is a lot of place for code simplification there.
18:21.54goxboxliveok, done building a rootfs for mio, soon booting :-)
18:22.11cr2goxboxlive: you have mio too ? :)
18:22.34goxboxlivecr2: i bought a used one :-) 160 euro
18:22.42cr2btw, who have said that it has tmc ?
18:22.43goxboxlivei need more sd card
18:22.46BabelOcr2: how can i determine what is the correct rtc driver ? loading all modules ?
18:23.08BabelOcr2: mine has TMC :) and i m sure of that
18:23.14cr2BabelO: x86 ? i usually don't use the rtc driver directly.
18:23.30goxboxlivehere in Norway we dont have TMC support
18:23.38cr2BabelO: hh.org wiki says mio supports tmc
18:24.01BabelOcr2: yes intel x86, how do you use it ? like me with NTP ?
18:24.22diogene31cr2: Of course, I love simplification. Go ahead.
18:24.37cr2BabelO: where do you _really_ use the rtc driver ?
18:25.17cr2diogene31: i need to write the resume code for n560 first. heh. and the gps driver.
18:25.30diogene31cr2: Jealous ? :)
18:25.39cr2i may just clone your code :)
18:26.04cr2but i know that we can greatly simplify it
18:26.10BabelOcr2: just to save / retrieve time on boot / startup
18:27.00diogene31cr2: Ah :)
18:27.00cr2BabelO: but it's very often done by reading the registers directly. without the rtc driver
18:27.28BabelOcr2: ok, so there is a bug, it does not works
18:27.38cr2diogene31: when we have 10 similar devices, we'd like the driver to be as generic as possible.
18:28.10cr2BabelO: run strace on 'hwclock'
18:29.30cr2diogene31: goxboxlive told me that i forgot your .S resume file. can you convert it into .c inline ?
18:29.36BabelOcr2: it is ok with that it use /etc/localtime and also /dev/rtc i have rtc-cmos driver only
18:30.25cr2BabelO: but there are some motherboards which use different rtc interface.
18:31.14diogene31cr2: No, I can't. This is because resume code has to be located in data section, in order to have relative load (pc+0x..). Why does assembly bother you that much ?
18:31.18BabelOcr2: i have to look better, else i continue with NTP , but i can't wakeup computer well then
18:31.23BabelObbl
18:32.40cr2diogene31: you are the only who does it :) and we need separate rules for .S files.
18:32.56diogene31cr2: http://82.243.122.54/trac/mio_a701/browser/arch/arm/mach-pxa/mioa701/mioa701_bootresume.S?rev=13e14f9cb2b0b4020f3fd46a61e636d16dd04638 if you missed it.
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18:37.51tsdogscr2: is it ok FontName FontColor and FontSize ? or u need the buffering and other stuff things?
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18:41.32cr2tsdogs: i don't think we need buffering for the polygons.
18:41.52cr2tsdogs: but it's a nice to have for the poi names.
18:42.14tsdogscr2: yes I mean for poi labels
18:43.00tsdogsAnyway I need to standardize all this parameters for "PEN" styles, they seem to called in every little piece of the software.
18:44.24cr2yeah.
18:45.14tsdogsho well, I commit what I have (font size, color and name)
18:45.21tsdogscr2: u can cvs up
18:45.48tsdogsu need the preferences file too or add:
18:45.49tsdogsPoiLabels.FontName: Arial Black
18:45.49tsdogsPoiLabels.FontSize: 10
18:45.49tsdogsPoiLabels.FontColor: #cf6464
18:46.15cr2ok, updating :)
18:46.17tsdogsor whatever to the preferences file (I think you can even change this in the preferences dialog :)
18:47.11diogene31BabelO: I almost forgot : hello. Missed in my cooking :)
18:47.35tsdogslol when I zoom in, I have too many poly labels :)
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18:48.40cr2yes, because there is no common poi cache ?
18:50.05tsdogscr2: stupid me, I should have used the layer pen which also has decluttering ... hmm
18:50.19cr2tsdogs: can we unify the install files and icons ?
18:50.20tsdogsand all the stuff for the font
18:50.35tsdogscr2: what u mean? put them all in one place?
18:51.25cr2no. let them be packed into the .ipk and installed via 'make install'
18:51.57cr2i'm running without the icons now, and have everything in ~/.roadmap
18:52.13cr2but the class file in /usr/local/share/roadmap/...
18:52.19cr2which is a horrible mess.
18:52.42tsdogsso u mean to put all of them into ~/.roadmap
18:52.43tsdogs?
18:54.31cr2is it possible to add the class file in ~/.roadmap ?
18:54.35cr2btw,
18:54.38cr2~/XANADUX/haret/GPS/roadmap/src> ldd qt4/qtroadmap
18:54.38cr2<PROTECTED>
18:54.38cr2<PROTECTED>
18:54.57cr2it's linked to libshp
18:55.02cr2which is weird.
18:55.15cr2only buildmap needs to be linked to libshp.
18:55.19tsdogscr2: I think it's your modification :)
18:55.39cr2yes, but i need it for buildmap only.
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18:57.22tsdogscr2: I think u need to do something like BMLIBS and use it only on buildmap targets
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18:58.52cr2tsdogs: ok.
18:59.09cr2tsdogs: so it's a fixed color for all pois now.
18:59.27tsdogscr2: I'm trying to use the layer pen insthead now
18:59.43cr2otherwise we need the full point class support, like it's done fo lines and polygons.
18:59.45cr2ok.
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19:00.23tsdogscr2: what are the polygon layers ?
19:01.35tsdogsyes, it seems to be working.
19:01.56cr2lakes and so on.
19:02.01cr2forests.
19:03.47kiozenhi
19:03.48tsdogscr2: cvs up, now it uses styles defined in the default/All or default/Polish
19:03.58tsdogskiozen: hi
19:04.09kiozentsdogs: do you know how toprogram text with white border in qt?
19:04.40tsdogskiozen: using buffer or to display it with some settings?
19:04.51kiozenbuffer
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19:04.56tsdogsyes
19:05.06kiozenlistening :))))
19:05.15tsdogsseeking :)
19:05.25kiozena pointer into roadmap code will be fine :)
19:05.36kiozenor a pastebin
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19:05.47tsdogskiozen: xanadux cvs roadmap/qt4/qt_canvas.cc
19:06.00kiozenline ?
19:06.06tsdogsseeking :)
19:06.54cr2roadmap_canvas.c: In function 'roadmap_canvas_mouse_event':
19:06.54cr2roadmap_canvas.c:398: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
19:07.05tsdogs?
19:07.25cr2sorry. it's gtk2.
19:07.33tsdogskiozen: 404
19:07.54tsdogskiozen: 437 to be more specific
19:08.24cr2wow
19:08.34cr2tsdogs: you rule :)
19:08.52tsdogscr2: code was all there, we only needed to hook it up :)
19:09.16tsdogskiozen: 477 for roatated text too
19:10.45cr2tsdogs: it may be good to check if the label bbox is bigger than the polygon bbox.
19:10.58kiozenhey that's a cool idea to draw the string several times!
19:11.27tsdogskiozen: I have taken it from somewhere, actually cr2 pointed me to the code :)
19:11.41tsdogscr2: u sure this is what we want?
19:11.55kiozenI toyed around with font scaling and weighting for over 2h!
19:12.15cr2kiozen: hehe. it's faster than to builtin the postscript path renderer ;)
19:12.26kiozen:)
19:12.45cr2tsdogs: it's bad when the polygon is 2 pixels big, but the label is half of the screen
19:13.27cr2tsdogs: maybe when the label bbox exceeds the polygon bbox too much (preferences)
19:14.02tsdogscr2: ok, that makes more sense for me.
19:14.22cr2it's good that you don't use antialising.
19:14.38cr2otherwise it'll be too slow.
19:15.11cr2hm. and i need to add sensible decluttering parameters to the class file.
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19:16.14cr2tsdogs: i have a funny font rendering artefact.
19:16.35cr2don't know where does it come from, but it was there before your recent changes.
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19:18.35tsdogscr2: I see it pretty good.
19:19.52cr2i'll make a screenshot
19:19.56tsdogsok
19:22.32cr2http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/pics/fontbug.png
19:24.35cr2ok, it's the S glyph
19:24.58cr2probably the font is broken or so.
19:26.18tsdogscr2:  I think so, what's the font?
19:26.45cr2no idea. it's qt4 black magic
19:26.56cr2some weird narrow font.
19:27.28tsdogscr2: Arial Black ?
19:27.29cr2btw, where should i put the label icons in ~/.roadmap ?
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19:27.38cr2tsdogs: no, it's somethign else.
19:27.42tsdogscr2: ok
19:28.16tsdogsthe icons should go somewhere in /usr/local/share/pixmap
19:28.33cr2and if i want to override them by my own ?
19:28.46tsdogsI don't think it looks in ~/.roadmap, but u can try with pixmap
19:28.55tsdogswait, looking at the code
19:29.25tsdogscr2: in ~/pixmaps
19:29.35cr2~/roadmap/pximaps ?
19:29.39cr2~/.roadmap/pximaps ?
19:29.46tsdogsnope, ~/pixmaps
19:30.17cr2that's not nice.
19:30.23tsdogsor u can specify ROADMAP_CONFIG_DIR when building
19:31.06cr2yes, it works with ~/pixmaps
19:31.19tsdogsand put all the share stuff in there, but I have no idea if doing ROADMAP_CONFIG_DIR=~/.roadmap would lead to something like reading twice the same file
19:31.28cr2no real tooltips ?
19:31.35tsdogscr2: it's all in unix/roadmap_path
19:31.39cr2ok.
19:31.45tsdogs? that's stange
19:33.02cr2they clone the text label
19:33.18tsdogscr2: what u mean?
19:34.07tsdogsIf I use the mouse on the tool button I have: "Show the current destination"
19:34.26kiozenOh my god, this has been so easy! I spent way too much time this afternoon http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot.png, need some wine :)
19:34.54cr2lol
19:34.57tsdogskiozen: very nice :)
19:35.09cr2tsdogs: then it's some installation problem here.
19:35.23kiozenyes, now, but you don't wnat to see the results from the afternoon
19:35.27cr2tsdogs: i don't have the popup menus too
19:36.01cr2kiozen: what is the m/pix ?
19:36.09kiozen1
19:36.10tsdogscr2: do u have a roadmap.popup file?
19:36.25kiozenand 25mx25m DEM
19:36.46kiozenbut it's zoomed out 4x
19:37.13cr2kiozen: the DEM is not always the same as the tiff color code :)
19:37.45kiozenit's a transparent overlay :)
19:40.18kiozensame without relief shading http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot2.png
19:40.56cr2not so nice.
19:41.05kiozenhehe
19:41.11cr2i'm curious how fast it will work on a pda
19:41.16kiozenthe eye is easy to trick
19:41.17cr2at 104MHz :)
19:41.35cr2kiozen: i'm running at 624 now ;)
19:41.37kiozenI am more interested in how much power it will suck
19:41.52cr2at 1/6 ?
19:41.58dcordescr2: with which device?
19:42.04cr2n560
19:42.22kiozenwas it wrong clock frequency or wrong reading?
19:42.33cr2kiozen: it's the LCD/backlight mainly anyway.
19:42.59kiozenthat will be turned off most of the time anyway
19:43.06cr2kiozen: it's what haret says. i think it's the right speed.
19:43.11kiozenI plan to use the mic button for that
19:43.22cr2goog idea.
19:43.29kiozenthus wince only use 104?
19:43.36cr2yes.
19:43.53kiozenbecause it's idle or in general?
19:44.11cr2probably because it's idle
19:44.32kiozencan you throttle the cpu further down?
19:45.16cr2it's the SDRAM refresh speed
19:45.34cr2maybe, we need to read the pxa270 specs, and the errata.
19:46.06kiozenok
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19:46.55tsdogstime to g home. bbl
19:48.52kiozenbye
19:50.16cr2kiozen: add the gpsd interface.
19:50.44kiozenusb bt and gps mouse are scheduled for tomorrow or the day after
19:50.53kiozensays amazon :)
19:50.54cr2i guess that since you have a slippy map already, it's easy to move it with an external event.
19:51.02cr2:)
19:51.12kiozenmoving is simple
19:51.22cr2gpio81 is ir/gps switch.
19:51.23kiozenslippy map is ~5 lines of code
19:51.34cr2should i disable IR ?
19:51.39kiozenyes
19:51.42cr2ok.
19:51.45kiozenno need for that
19:51.58kiozenbut bt should work
19:52.15kiozenI am not sure if I am happy with the built in sirfIII
19:52.36kiozenwlan would be nice, but not crucial
19:53.00kiozenand LED control could be usefull
19:53.12cr2not yet, mainly because of the sdio.
19:53.27kiozenI am just dreaming :)
19:53.30cr2do you have an external antenna
19:53.35kiozenno
19:53.52cr2LED should be easy, it's just not a big priority for me now.
19:54.01cr2ok.
19:54.26cr276cx works with my old billionton CF mcx antenna. that's nice.
19:54.47kiozenFSC has some special stuff
19:54.57cr2yeagh.
19:55.05kiozenand I want to rugg it http://www.andres-industries.de/rugged_pda/varianten/n560.html
19:55.16kiozendont know what connector they use
19:55.58cr2i like that n560 is so lightweight and thin.
19:56.04cr2compared to the universal ;)
19:56.36kiozenyes it's a nice device, but FSC stoped producing pdas
20:15.57cr2diogene31: still here ?
20:19.29diogene31cr2: Yep, fire it up.
20:20.48cr2diogene31: can you check the docg3 driver ?
20:22.06diogene31cr2: Not in the near present. I'm working hard on "recent" kernel integration, and that consumes all my time. I heard goxboxlive bought a mio. If it's only compiling an existing driver, perhaps he'll accept to do it ... ?
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20:22.32diogene31cr2: This means my current branch is different. A rollback will be long (10min on my laptop).
20:23.47cr2ok.
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20:46.37BabelOcr2: how can i check my current cvs revision ?
20:46.45BabelOi want tag name
20:48.26cr2in the CVS/ dir
20:48.51BabelO;) ok i don't think to this, but i check, thx
20:49.24cr2diogene31: the serial port setup -> http://rafb.net/p/Yu5vXW16.html
20:51.56cr2hm. expired.
20:52.13cr2http://pastebin.ca/910239
20:52.20cr2BabelO: you may use it too.
20:52.39cr2it's a recent paste by pH5
20:53.10BabelOcr2: interesting, i m not using it like this
20:53.42BabelOcr2: but if you want to switch between gps /irda to setup a bridge, you always switch of gps, so it never lock ?
20:53.59cr2yes.
20:54.10cr2irda is too oldschool.
20:54.26cr2i don't know why you'd like to use it.
20:54.59BabelOcr2: don't know but i m a geek, so i like to use thing like this
20:55.00BabelOlol
20:55.02cr2unless you are ultra-paranoid about the inter-pda sync security :)
20:55.19cr2BabelO: you have bt and wifi :)
20:56.36BabelOcr2: an example for bt on BA http://pastebin.ca/910252
20:59.40BabelOcr2: usefull to wakeup device from bt headset ;)
21:00.41cr2BabelO: what is bt irq ?
21:08.56cr2dcordes: it's something for you: http://bp1.blogger.com/_tu2ddMSzCxs/R7MnG1Mp-uI/AAAAAAAAABo/8rr49c0Uu9o/s1600-h/you_are_being_watched.jpg
21:10.02dcordescr2: what's up with this?
21:11.05BabelOcr2: irq is on asic3
21:20.03dcordescr2: I first thougt you would come up with some breaking msm* news
21:20.56diogene31_cr2: Seen it. I don't feel really enthusiastic. The reason behind is that you pair uart startup/shutdown with gps chip startup/shutdown. This IMHO is not appropriate. Think of the GSM part for example. The UART is shutdown on suspend, but the chip has to remain up to receive calls. That could apply to every serial driver, as GPS can be configured for only certain notifications every X secs/mins/hours.
21:22.31cr2diogene31: GSM is really difficult, without any docs.
21:23.07cr2dcordes: it's a picture taken from a model plane or something like that.
21:23.55dcordescr2: for now I froze my quadrocopter plans
21:24.16diogene31_cr2: Yes, agreed. I had the chance to find some doc for the MIO for one part, and disassembled the wince dll on the other to complete my knowledge. But that is very time consuming.
21:28.06dcordescr2: is that photo from http://paparazzi.enac.fr ?
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21:36.26kristoffer__Any haret expert here?
21:36.53kristoffer__I wonder if its possible to state in startup.txt where I want the linux kernel placed in memory
21:37.22kristoffer__I suspect it currently extracts into first ram area (0xa0000000) and I don't want that.
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21:50.03cr2kristoffer__: it depends on the cpu arch
21:50.34kristoffer__cr2, nevermind, looks like haret didn't mind. Kernel boots
21:50.43cr2kristoffer__: and it's not so easy to change it.
21:50.46cr2kristoffer__: ok.
21:51.26cr2kristoffer__: the dma and pxa usb is shutdown, so it should not really matter.
21:52.59kristoffer__agreed. worked alot smoother than I expected
22:00.10diogene31Time to go for me as well. Night.

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