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10:10.40Marexcr2, hi, are you around ?
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11:35.59rakeemAnyone there?  cr2?  goxboxlive? kioen? BabelO? alGe?
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13:44.28cr2hi Marex
13:44.44Marexcr2, hi
13:45.10Marexcr2, dunno if I asked you yesterday, but have you tried to connect to bootloader ?
13:45.20cr2i'll do the commit now. resume is not yet working, need to check the usb host once again.
13:45.38cr2what for ?
13:45.46Marexto see if it works ;)
13:45.49cr2you can dump the bootloader from RAM.
13:46.06cr2did i put this data into wiki ?
13:46.12Marexno idea
13:46.27Marexwell I was just curious since I wasnt able to connect to it using minicom
13:47.18cr2the first MB - i don't remember what it's for.
13:47.32cr2the second MB is the RAM copy of the bootloader
13:47.49cr2wince starts from the third MB
13:48.35cr2you may try to find out where are the wifi registers mmaped
13:48.52cr2because the SDIO is used only for eeprom and config.
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14:48.23cr2Marex: still here ?
14:53.28cr2hm. something new
14:53.31cr2In file included from arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.c:30:
14:53.31cr2include/asm/arch/uncompress.h:21: warning: conflicting types for built-in function ‘putc’
14:58.12Marexcr2, thats normal (bug)
14:58.22Marexyou just need to comment something out iirc
14:59.09cr2Marex: update from hh.org and do 'make looxn560_defconfig'
14:59.40cr2report the bugs. my local tree is a complete mess, i've made changes for 4 different phones with different archs ;)
15:00.20cr2i'll add usb host now, and return to the resume driver.
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15:11.53Marexcr2, enjoy the hacking :)
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15:12.16Marexcr2, I basically wanted to port N560 myself so I bought it, but I really lacked time
15:12.38Marexcr2, so well, I guess I wont be much help at least for some time
15:13.31cr2Marex: does it compile ?
15:16.11cr2BabelO: need your advice.
15:17.25BabelOhi cr2
15:27.31Marexcr2, no idea, mathematical analysis is more important for me now
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16:06.23kiozenhi
16:06.54cr2hi kiozen
16:08.10kiozencr2: any news :) ?
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16:10.02BabelOhi
16:10.32cr2kiozen: can you check if the latest n560 kernel compiles ?
16:10.50kiozenhi BabelO
16:10.53kiozencr2: ok
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16:12.01kiozencr2: anything special to do after "cvs up" ?
16:12.34cr2no.
16:12.44cr2make looxn560_defconfig
16:15.47kiozencr2:  that is still the correct path ? ":pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.handhelds.org:"
16:15.56cr2yes.
16:22.30kiozencr2: http://pastebin.ca/898763
16:22.36kiozenno defconfig
16:22.59cr2hm. i'll check
16:24.08cr2committed
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16:27.37kiozencr2: http://pastebin.ca/898775
16:28.41kiozenifdef are evil :D
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16:34.38cr2strange
16:34.56cr2can you rerun 'make menuconfig'
16:35.01cr2and diff the output.
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16:37.13kiozencr2: diff what output? it's a curses interface
16:38.00cr2.config
16:38.26kiozenok (long line)
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16:40.22kiozencr2: http://pastebin.ca/898784
16:41.00kiozencommand was diff .config arch/arm/configs/looxn560_defconfig
16:46.35cr2diff -u
16:46.39cr2is more readbale.
16:48.00cr2ok, found one more missing files.
16:48.06kiozencr2 http://pastebin.ca/898797
16:53.52cr2yes, fixing it now.
16:56.16cr2oo. killed too much.
16:56.19cr2recompiling
16:58.09kiozencr2 killed linux  :)
16:59.40cr2ok, looks much better now.
17:00.29kiozencvs up ?
17:01.20cr2done.
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17:07.04okiasHi, anyone working on porting linux to MDA Vario III (HTC P4550, Kaiser)? He have Qualcomm MSM7200..
17:08.03cr2okias: have you looked at the xda-dev wiki ?
17:08.37kiozencr2: make succeeded
17:08.59okiascr2: moment, looking right now...
17:09.07cr2kiozen: ok, then i'll add ohci
17:09.44kiozen:)
17:09.48cr2okias: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap
17:09.49okiascr2: but i dont see him... :-(
17:10.05okiascr2: thanks
17:10.38cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_CPLD
17:11.08cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO
17:11.20okiascr2: i dont see anything about working/not working linux...
17:11.24cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ
17:11.37cr2linux is not working.
17:12.13cr2more research of that kind is needed.
17:12.30cr2we are also waiting for the androids' SD driver.
17:12.38okiascr2: hmm, looks like he have same chipset... like android :-D
17:15.35okiascr2: I think will soon possible run android in this phone :-)
17:16.05cr2not the same
17:16.55okiascr2: android have 7200A and kaiser have 7200 :-)
17:17.16okiascr2: this isnt big different i think...
17:17.50cr2the usb is completely different
17:18.13cr2and there are some problems with gpio/irq
17:18.32okiascr2: it is no good :-(
17:18.43cr2and it seems that 7200A has some 3d video accel support, while 7200 has nothing.
17:18.53okias;-(
17:19.13rakeemlibqte
17:46.18rakeemHi everyone...  Can anyone tell me if there's a web browser or terminal available for Qtopia yet?
17:47.09CVirusI don't think there's a terminal
17:47.20rakeemBrowser ?
17:47.20CVirusnot sure about a browser though
17:47.44CVirusrakeem: ask in #Qtopia
17:47.50CVirusrakeem: have we met before ?
17:48.06CVirusrakeem: are you from Arabeyes ?
17:48.19rakeemHmm...  Anything else worth playing with?  I mean I can't go around bragging about having Linux on my phone if I've nothing Linuxy to show off...  ;-)
17:48.44rakeemCVirus:  'Fraid not...
17:49.01rakeemCVirus:  Unless I was drunk...
17:49.04CVirusrakeem: try OpenMoko
17:49.13CVirusrakeem: #OpenMoko
17:49.32tsdogsrakeem: http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=tree;f=src/applications/qterminal;h=d3a096a34161593bd8ccdaa917f918a44675e11f;hb=tsdogs
17:49.42tsdogsit's still very buggy though
17:49.59tsdogsno web browser afaik
17:50.08rakeemOkay, is there an image available for the Uni?
17:50.19CVirusOpenMoko has a terminal emulator and a browser
17:50.47tsdogsgoxboxlive: has it I think, if u only need the terminal I could give u the exec
17:51.48rakeemIt's cool, I'll try the whole image...  What's the main framework used by the GUI?  e.g. gtk / qt etc...?
17:52.12tsdogsopenmoko?
17:52.18okias:-D
17:52.43rakeemtsdogs:  Yeah...  Or is it something entirely new?
17:53.00cr2kiozen: haret always tell me that loox runs at 104MHz
17:53.02tsdogsopenmoko is x + gtk I think
17:53.34cr2tsdogs: can we run qtopia core on x11 ?
17:53.52tsdogscr2: in qvfb yes
17:54.21tsdogsbbl
17:54.40rakeemCUlater tsdogs...
17:55.05rakeemHi cr2...  How're things?  What deep geekery are you playing with currently?
17:55.16cr2loox n560
17:56.00rakeemloox is an architecture right?
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17:58.18okiasrakeem: Fujistu-siemens loox is PDA device.. :-)
17:58.36cr2yes, it's not a phone
17:58.53cr2hmm. make linload broken again ?
17:58.56cr2<PROTECTED>
17:58.56cr2<PROTECTED>
17:58.56cr2ValueError: substring not found
17:59.00rakeemAh...  Zaurus-alike?
17:59.37kiozencr2: you want me to turn it in because it does not have the clock as in the spec. ? :)
17:59.42cr2rakeem: it's a htc device. with gps and the same LCD as universal
17:59.59cr2kiozen: which spec ?
18:00.21kiozenat amazon.de
18:00.24kiozenlol
18:00.29rakeemOoh... Tasty VGA...
18:00.51cr2kiozen: here
18:00.54cr2HaRET(1)# dump pxa27x
18:00.54cr2Run Mode clock: 104.00MHz (*8)
18:00.54cr2Turbo Mode clock: 104.00MHz (*1.0, active)
18:00.54cr2Memory clock: 104.00MHz (/1)
18:00.54cr2System bus clock: 104.00MHz
18:01.40kiozenok :) 104MHz should be enought for everyone
18:02.36okias:-D
18:02.48cr2Kevin2: are you awake ?
18:10.23cr2some python gurus around ?
18:10.36cr2it was all plain c once...
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18:19.34kiozencr2: what's your -o option?
18:20.53cr2out/linload.exe
18:21.12cr2i'm tried to run it manually, and get the same error.
18:22.37kiozenit expects a "%v" in the string to replace it by the kernel version
18:22.43kiozenhm, pretty wired code
18:24.12cr2hehe. hardwired :)
18:24.32kiozenyou can comment line 26 to 30
18:24.54cr2hm. usb stick detected.
18:25.06cr2probably i've forgot the usb_
18:25.11cr2storage driver
18:25.48cr2kiozen: actually after i've added the cpld driver, i don't have any problems to boot.
18:26.05kiozen:)
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18:27.46cr2kiozen: should i test the garmin_gps driver ? :)
18:29.23cr2i know why i've forgot it. scsi should be enabled.
18:31.13kiozenon the loox or on the py?
18:31.18kiozens/py/pc/
18:31.44cr2on the loox.
18:31.54cr2i've logged in with the usb keyboard :)
18:32.04kiozenlol, don't think so :)
18:32.33cr2the squirrels will die of laughter
18:32.49kiozen:)))))
18:33.02cr2checking garmin
18:33.02okias:-D
18:33.22kiozenfound a wounded noar in the woods, today
18:33.28kiozenthat was bad enought
18:33.36cr2okias: kiozen wants to use loox as a garmin replacement
18:33.48kiozens/noar/boar/
18:33.48cr2i suggest to log in with the usb keyboard :)
18:34.53cr2hahaha
18:34.59kiozencr2: want's me to carry all kind of equipment just to get my position
18:35.21cr2rejected due to insufficient available bus power
18:35.28cr2i've set it to 150 mA
18:35.48kiozenlol, there must be some god :)
18:36.18cr2kiozen: i have no idea how to do it properly.
18:36.36cr2it's all with external poer supply.
18:36.50cr2so it must be capable of 500mA
18:37.21cr2it's a very dark linux corner now - the usb power management.
18:37.55kiozenpower management never has been bright
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18:38.42cr2kiozen: where is the reset button ?
18:39.04kiozenthere is a small hole onthe bottom
18:39.11kiozenyou can use the stylus
18:39.25cr2i may try to use the gps antenna
18:39.41kiozengot to go, dinner burns on the BBQ...
18:39.46kiozenbbl
18:40.15cr2bye
18:43.09cr2yes, the usb stick is detected and works.
18:47.23Kevin2cr2: Hi
18:47.43cr2hi Kevin2
18:48.03cr2the linload makefile target does not work.
18:48.29Kevin2Yeah - psokolovsky broke it and never fixed it.  :-(  I'll go fix it now.
18:48.52cr2ok. thanks.
18:52.08Kevin2cr2: Can you do a "cvs up" and retry?
18:52.47cr2ok.
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19:12.54cr2Kevin2: works now :)
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19:57.06snakefreak3anyone has a tip witch linux i should use for development with oe? system core 2 duo 4gb ati x1950xtx vga and sata2 hdd over intel ICH7 sb
19:57.37okiassnakefreak3: Gentoo? :-)
19:59.41snakefreak3ok noted ^^ anyone els a other?
20:06.57tsdogssnakefreak3: I think a debian based distro is preferred (though I'm using fedora 8)
20:07.34snakefreak3Gentoo there only cd images or dvdlive. no dvd install.
20:07.43snakefreak3ok i take a lock
20:08.45snakefreak3can should i use x86 64 or i686?
20:08.50snakefreak3-can
20:08.51AlGeI use an AM2 3800 x2 and Debian etch
20:08.51snakefreak3^^
20:08.59snakefreak3alge nice
20:09.07snakefreak3i have a question^^
20:09.25AlGeok, ask :-)
20:09.39snakefreak3your latest image for ba is runing fine but phone does not work correcli
20:10.00AlGeit doesnt work without some interaction before start
20:10.31snakefreak3i become in gomunicator error cabt get element ´mixer´
20:10.39snakefreak3wat intteractions?^^
20:10.59AlGeyou can ignore the "mixer error", but you have to set "output Mux" to "Mixer" with alsamixer
20:11.24AlGeunfortunately this gets reset to "Direct" every now and then
20:12.10AlGeand: I have disabled my PIN, gomunicator has some config option to enter the PIN but I havent tested this
20:12.31snakefreak3my pin is diabled to.
20:12.46AlGeso what doesnt work for you?
20:13.09snakefreak3i had incomin calls iam and the otherside was muted
20:13.24snakefreak3without interactions.
20:13.30okiassnakefreak3: use Gentoo x86_64 :-)
20:13.31AlGeok, thats the "Oiutput Mux" Problem
20:13.40snakefreak3ah ok
20:13.53snakefreak3and i have problem with touch
20:14.01AlGeMee too :-)
20:14.09snakefreak3ok^^
20:14.24snakefreak3anyother things runing fine
20:14.34snakefreak3bt not testet yet
20:15.02snakefreak3next week i become gps then i test bt.
20:15.38AlGeI have done some little experiments with the ts parameters, so please try my http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/default.txt file when starting haret (and use it whit my latest kernel from today)
20:16.06AlGeYou can update the kernel without starting from scratch ...
20:17.00snakefreak3you can note your image is runing fine on 4gb sd^^ i had older image from hh.0rg that doesnt run on 4gb
20:17.30snakefreak3my ba is not conerctet to inet
20:18.12AlGewhy do you have no connection? usb should work ..
20:18.16snakefreak3but when i run a fully linux on desktop he would^^
20:18.31AlGeahh, ok :-)
20:18.35snakefreak3yes i use a win server 2k3
20:18.46snakefreak3and ics does not work correct^^
20:19.42snakefreak3alge does sms work?^^
20:19.55AlGebtw, bluetooth should work, even the gpe-bluetooth applet
20:21.14AlGesms works for the original gomunicator, I fear that I broke it with my GUI restructuring (tab-based instead of menu driven). At least receive should work.
20:22.50snakefreak3ok when receive works its enought.  i will try out morgen(morning?). because girlfrind mobile is broken and she has my little ba^^
20:24.08AlGewhat also still doesnt work correctly seems to be irda, you can only see youself with irdadump and no partner device, at least with the devices I tried (garmin, zaurus, other ba, ...)
20:25.07snakefreak3irda is not used on my ba.
20:26.14AlGeI have updated my README file a liitle bit, so have a look if you want.
20:26.16snakefreak3on dell axim x51v cf is working.? integrated wlan not. can use cf pcmcia adapter and a pcmcia wlan card? can that work?
20:26.24snakefreak3ok
20:26.32snakefreak3ii want^^
20:29.16AlGecf-pcmcia? I only know pcmcia-cf . why not use a cf wlan card?
20:29.47snakefreak3we havent ^^
20:30.20snakefreak3yes a firiend has x51 and he has a adapter
20:31.28snakefreak3friend
20:31.53snakefreak3grml^^ akkumulator in wireless keybord is emty^^
20:32.30AlGebut if such adapter exists, it should work. there is not much difference between cf and pcmcia beside form factor.
20:33.13snakefreak3ok thats nice^^
20:33.22snakefreak3we try next time
20:33.24jeansebAlGe, are you the one who built gpe images ?
20:33.36AlGethe ba images, yes
20:33.39jeansebfor blue angel ?
20:33.44snakefreak3^^
20:33.58jeansebhave you got them working fine ?
20:34.23AlGewith some restrictions, ...
20:34.33jeansebhéhé
20:34.37jeanseba big one for me
20:34.43jeansebbattery not working !
20:34.47snakefreak3worx
20:34.50snakefreak3^^
20:35.03AlGekeyboard gets stuck sometimes, touchscreen very flaky ...
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20:35.36AlGejeanseb: do you have an original battery or some noname replacement?
20:36.30jeanseboriginal ones
20:36.43jeansebmodel PH26B
20:37.18AlGejeanseb: hmm, strange , these should get detected during boot
20:37.31snakefreak3as mine that should work
20:37.49snakefreak3jeansb what kernel version u use in image?
20:38.00snakefreak3do you use actual alge image?
20:38.14AlGejeanseb: If you try my latest kernel you can check the battery rom identification of your battery
20:38.58AlGejeanseb: you will see something like:
20:38.59AlGeds1wm: found rom id: 0x77000010A4FA9F30
20:39.13AlGeimportant are the last to digits: 30
20:39.20jeansebsnakefreak3, last from AlGe
20:39.37AlGelast would mean downloaded today :-)
20:40.01jeansebAlGe, nothing in /var/log/message exept some irq buffer overloaded
20:40.21jeanseblol none was last  frdiday evening !
20:41.30snakefreak3ok xd alge you have updatet^^
20:42.02AlGejeanseb: not there(messages), look at  dmesg output, but you have to capture this very early, maybe add some initscript wich calls dmesg and saves its output somewhere in /tmp
20:42.23jeansebdmesg output complain abut the same irq
20:42.32jeansebbooting linux on pda now
20:43.40jeansebtelling abouyt the battery right
20:43.51jeansebbut now there only irq mess...
20:44.12AlGethis irq overrrun happens from time to time, after kernel load - before filesystem mount. you can stop it by pressing some key,
20:44.32AlGebut it doesnt hurt. it only floods dmesg
20:44.52jeansebAlGe, comment the printk isn't possible ?
20:45.14jeansebyes it flood so dmesg is unuasble
20:45.41cr2AlGe: which subdevice/gpio is that irq ?
20:45.48AlGeof course, possible.
20:45.59AlGeIRQ 26, dont know
20:46.08jeansebAlGe, i had to calibrate screen running the script via ssh, graphic interface wasn't working
20:46.44cr226 is the offset from base ?
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20:48.21jeansebasic3_irq_demux: interrupt processing overrun: irq=26
20:48.31jeanseb^only output from dmesg
20:48.39AlGecr2: I have no clue, maybe. I print the IRQ number with this patch http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/kernel-patches/silence-asic3-demux.patch
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20:50.12AlGejeanseb: and as the name of the patch suggests: originally I wanted to comment out this printk :-) but decided first to add the irq number
20:51.26jeansebAlGe, is there a way to have a console over usb  ?
20:52.30jeansebAlGe, is batterry handled by a module  ?
20:53.15AlGejeanseb: console over usb: maybe the serial usb gadget stuff works (go to settings usb ...)
20:53.58jeansebyes but is kernel will send it from boot ?
20:54.19AlGejeanseb: battery: in theory yes, but unfortunately most of the portions that are compileable as midule dont work as module. so almost everything is static.
20:56.27AlGejeanseb: the usb gadget serial module will not be able to boot something, if I understand this correctly
21:02.24AlGesorry, but I have to leave (I'm ill since mid last week and it only slowly gets better (a flu)), bye
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21:04.12snakefreak3by alge
21:04.33jeansebAlGe, was asking if via gagdet usb console will be available at early boot time
21:04.51jeansebbye
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