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| 05:30.23 | goxboxlive | good morning |
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| 05:54.14 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: i am starting to understand more and more of the git stuff |
| 06:02.18 | ellisway | morning all |
| 06:03.11 | goxboxlive | hoi ellisway |
| 06:03.29 | ellisway | hi goxboxlive hows it going |
| 06:04.32 | goxboxlive | i'm fine, tired though. What about you? |
| 06:04.46 | goxboxlive | Have had any luck yet to run Qtopia on your Uni? |
| 06:04.58 | ellisway | tired been up all night rebuilding a ris server |
| 06:05.40 | ellisway | yeh still cant yet use it as a daily phone |
| 06:05.48 | ellisway | but its getting close |
| 06:06.43 | ellisway | bit more control of the audio better bluetooth and wifi and 3g/gprs and landscape mode |
| 06:06.58 | ellisway | will be me sorted |
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| 06:08.09 | ellisway | i boot the qtopia image almost daily but keep having to reboot to wince to use the wireless modem |
| 06:09.08 | ellisway | so landscape a 3g/gprs modem emulator so i can use the phone as a modem are the main things for me to be able to use the uni with qtopia as my daily system |
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| 06:50.58 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 06:51.09 | goxboxlive | but the phone works for u now righht? |
| 06:53.29 | ellisway | yes |
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| 08:16.30 | kiozen | cr2: OSM download is working, GUI is still a bit shaky and sometimes tiles are missing, but it does the expected. |
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| 08:57.46 | BabelO | good morning |
| 09:16.12 | Foxdie | morning |
| 09:18.17 | cr2 | morning |
| 09:18.32 | cr2 | kiozen: what do you think about this one -> http://www.navigation-professionell.de/garmin-colorado-gps-gerate |
| 09:20.24 | kiozen | cr2: Don't know too much details but it looks like same shitty, limited firmware, same senseless price diffrerence Europe <-> US. |
| 09:20.40 | kiozen | cr2: 1000 waypoint, why that limit |
| 09:20.58 | kiozen | cr2: surely name and comment fields are limited, too |
| 09:21.26 | cr2 | kiozen: do they support raster maps ? |
| 09:21.43 | kiozen | cr2: no, why should they |
| 09:21.55 | cr2 | my 76Cx the US version anyway. |
| 09:22.13 | kiozen | cr2: they can make more money by releasing more and more detail maps year fter year |
| 09:22.56 | kiozen | cr2: now they use shading to give you the impression of a high detail map. |
| 09:22.58 | cr2 | ok, so you think that "Integrierte U.S. topographische Karte" is just a hires vector. |
| 09:23.02 | cr2 | ok. |
| 09:23.14 | Foxdie | same for tomtom |
| 09:23.45 | Foxdie | Fuelled by greed. |
| 09:24.13 | cr2 | Foxdie: is tomtom a "rugged, waterproof outdoor handheld GPS" ? |
| 09:24.28 | kiozen | well at least tomtom, tries to change that by allowing you to report errors, and get patches in exchange |
| 09:24.30 | Foxdie | Depends if its in my 4x4 or not ;) |
| 09:24.45 | kiozen | lol |
| 09:24.48 | Foxdie | true kiozen, but you still have to pay for map updates |
| 09:24.50 | kiozen | nice casing |
| 09:24.56 | Foxdie | which I don't believe in |
| 09:25.17 | Foxdie | if you're spending £300 on a PND you should at least get free updates x.x |
| 09:25.38 | cr2 | kiozen: the only place where i'll report errors is the OSM :) |
| 09:25.53 | Foxdie | I'd use that open source map thing that cr2 showed me |
| 09:26.09 | kiozen | that's is better anyway. |
| 09:26.11 | cr2 | why there is a difference between basemap -> "Satellite" and DEM ? |
| 09:26.12 | Foxdie | but it doesn't know a lot of side roads, which effetively makes it useless if you want to navigate to a place you've never been before |
| 09:26.35 | Foxdie | it relies on local people taking their own personal time to document roads |
| 09:26.36 | cr2 | Foxdie: save the tracks an upload them :) |
| 09:26.48 | Foxdie | yes, but thats only good if I'm local to the area |
| 09:27.23 | kiozen | however with the new GT feature I driver their network host close to getting bankruped |
| 09:27.27 | Foxdie | I wonder what the proper name is for someone who goes around using a gps system to map out road systems |
| 09:27.31 | cr2 | Foxdie: well, but i know many areas there OSM is better than anything else, exactly because of that. |
| 09:27.35 | Foxdie | its not like cartographer, or geomapper or something |
| 09:28.01 | kiozen | enthusiast |
| 09:28.01 | cr2 | kiozen: maemo mapper does the same. |
| 09:28.02 | Foxdie | yeah, tomtom doesn't even know about a new major bypass that was built near my house over a year ago |
| 09:28.26 | Foxdie | not even google maps knows about it I don't think, one sec |
| 09:29.13 | kiozen | cr2: yes but I still feel bad about it. I wonder if they have a c libary for rendering ... |
| 09:29.38 | Foxdie | lol nope, google maps still thinks that the A38, one of the longest roads in britain, runs through the local town center :) |
| 09:29.45 | Foxdie | must try with OSM... |
| 09:30.49 | Foxdie | okay |
| 09:30.52 | Foxdie | credit where its due |
| 09:30.57 | Foxdie | OSM knows about the bypass :) |
| 09:31.30 | Foxdie | but sadly, doesn't know much about my local area :( |
| 09:32.07 | Foxdie | I must document! |
| 09:32.49 | Foxdie | is it against their terms of service, or in anyway illegal, to get traces with my GPS, but then copy the road names from say google maps? |
| 09:34.40 | Foxdie | and is there something similar to google maps that runs on windows mobile? |
| 09:34.50 | Foxdie | but uses the OSM maps so I can see what roads haven't been documented? |
| 09:36.25 | kiozen | Foxdie: QLandkarte M ;) |
| 09:37.02 | kiozen | cr2: cleaned up the GUI, you can svn up and test :) |
| 09:39.15 | cr2 | Foxdie: when you are driving, you can check if the street names match. sometimes there are errors in the maps, so just copying is bad. for many reasons. |
| 09:39.16 | kiozen | Foxdie: but be warned: It still has som way to go, befor you can call it user compatible |
| 09:39.34 | Foxdie | its a catch 22 though |
| 09:39.49 | Foxdie | only enthusiasts / geeks will have the interest in doing the mapping |
| 09:39.56 | Foxdie | but everyone would want to use it if it was "complete" |
| 09:40.19 | Foxdie | on top of that it takes effort to go out and get traces |
| 09:40.47 | kiozen | well, people buying portable GPS are geeks anyway |
| 09:41.10 | Foxdie | the only motivation is that you know someone else might benefit from knowing the road you document |
| 09:41.17 | cr2 | Foxdie: you can get the osm->img tiles, and use them on wince with some software. ask BabelO |
| 09:41.33 | cr2 | Foxdie: getting out is an effort ? :) |
| 09:43.12 | Foxdie | yes, and costs fuel ;) |
| 09:43.27 | Foxdie | its a shame I couldn't just get some software to automatically record and upload traces as I'm driving around |
| 09:43.36 | Foxdie | and then I just log into the website and tag the traces as roads |
| 09:43.58 | Foxdie | or maybe let someone else do the tagging |
| 09:44.43 | cr2 | Foxdie: http://www.freemap.co.il/roadmap |
| 09:45.09 | cr2 | Foxdie: but it still needs some adjustments for OSM. |
| 09:47.38 | cr2 | bbl |
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| 09:48.26 | Foxdie | I have a couple of gps navigating software |
| 09:49.11 | Foxdie | Franson GPSGate, GPSTuner, Google Maps for Mobile, TomTom 5 and 6, MemoryMaps Navigator Mobile |
| 09:49.19 | Foxdie | if any of those can be useful then all the better :) |
| 09:50.07 | cr2 | kiozen: CCreateMapOSM.cpp:35: Warnung: deprecated conversion from string constant to »char*« |
| 09:50.43 | kiozen | cr2: yes i know, haven't found out how to do it right |
| 09:51.04 | kiozen | cr2: gcc is getting more and more restrictive |
| 09:51.08 | cr2 | const char * |
| 09:51.14 | cr2 | instead of char * |
| 09:51.27 | kiozen | GDAL wants char * |
| 09:51.47 | cr2 | do a cast for gdal. |
| 09:51.55 | kiozen | hm, :/ |
| 09:52.27 | cr2 | i doubt gdal really wants to overwrite the string. |
| 09:52.56 | cr2 | it's just sloppy old-school programming. |
| 09:53.11 | cr2 | which affects the optimizer and runtime speed btw, |
| 09:53.43 | cr2 | i still hear some fortran people whining about C being slower :) |
| 09:54.27 | kiozen | You still hear them? I thought they are burried below a crust of dust. |
| 09:54.56 | cr2 | no, there is still a lot of legacy code around. |
| 09:55.52 | kiozen | spagetti code |
| 09:56.16 | cr2 | and still overwriting the const char * is not a problem, if you _really_ want it. |
| 09:56.26 | cr2 | i like 'goto' :) |
| 09:56.52 | kiozen | me too, for error handling :) |
| 09:57.02 | cr2 | yes. |
| 09:57.25 | kiozen | customer was close to kill me, but I told him to grep the linux kernel |
| 09:57.43 | kiozen | that shut him up very fast |
| 09:57.50 | cr2 | yes, i agree. |
| 09:57.59 | kiozen | cr2: that download stuff is sloooooooooow |
| 09:58.40 | cr2 | hehe. "sytem's hardware clock is set to UTC" |
| 09:58.45 | kiozen | did you hear of a c api for the osm renderer |
| 09:59.29 | cr2 | no, i think it's c++ |
| 09:59.40 | kiozen | lol |
| 09:59.48 | cr2 | and you need postgis. |
| 09:59.52 | kiozen | any link? |
| 10:00.10 | kiozen | grr, another dependcy |
| 10:00.26 | cr2 | http://www.giswiki.org/wiki/Mapnik |
| 10:00.35 | cr2 | i'm looking for a better link. |
| 10:00.44 | kiozen | I have to make SuSE to add more GIS software |
| 10:01.14 | cr2 | i think somebody creates the .rpms for suse. |
| 10:01.27 | cr2 | and these things are already included in debian. |
| 10:02.18 | cr2 | kiozen: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapnik |
| 10:02.39 | kiozen | I am lazy, I like the DVD, but I told them already |
| 10:04.10 | cr2 | hehe. i may try to do it. |
| 10:05.14 | kiozen | to do what? |
| 10:06.08 | kiozen | hm, that doesn't look nice and easy to fit into a gui... |
| 10:06.50 | cr2 | to render the tiles myself. |
| 10:12.36 | cr2 | kiozen: the DMS is annoying :) it took some time before the progress bar appeared, so i've seen that it wants to download 2000000 tiles. |
| 10:13.00 | cr2 | btw, you are using the 'tiles at home' and not mapnik ? |
| 10:20.59 | kiozen | DMS ? |
| 10:21.27 | kiozen | cr2: yes mapnik did not give me any high resolution tiles |
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| 10:47.36 | cr2 | kiozen: the lat/long format DegreeMinuteSecond |
| 10:49.14 | kiozen | cr2: you can add other formats to GPS_Math_Str_To_Deg. The format is geocaching international ;) |
| 10:55.24 | kiozen | cr2: with mapnik my color palette trick does not work. why? |
| 10:59.08 | kiozen | hm, too many colors |
| 10:59.11 | cr2 | kiozen: imho the parser should understand just 51 7 entered there. google can that :) |
| 10:59.41 | cr2 | i think it uses antialiasing in 24bit space, so there are too many colors. |
| 11:00.34 | kiozen | they are reduced to 255 colors, but they can't be mapped into the standard palette of course. |
| 11:01.30 | kiozen | is gimp able to coff out the palette in a usable format? .. |
| 11:12.29 | cr2 | .gct ? |
| 11:12.51 | cr2 | you can define the palette in this format |
| 11:13.10 | cr2 | to read it in. if you can save it, i don't know. |
| 11:13.39 | kiozen | hm, I would still have to reduce it, let's stick with tiles at home |
| 11:14.13 | kiozen | goxboxlive: if you need a map for QLandkarte M you can create one with the GT version. |
| 11:14.23 | kiozen | http://www.qlandkarte.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=4 |
| 11:14.47 | goxboxlive | kiozen: i look at it when i get home |
| 11:14.48 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 11:14.56 | kiozen | welcome :) |
| 11:23.51 | BabelO | kiozen: can i try windows compilation for GT ? |
| 11:48.29 | goxboxlive | kiozen: ccmake ../QLandkarteGT the file doesnt exist |
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| 12:00.32 | kiozen | goxboxlive: do you have the cmake system installed? |
| 12:00.35 | kiozen | http://www.cmake.org/HTML/Index.html |
| 12:00.59 | kiozen | BabelO: chances are really good, that it will compile from scratch |
| 12:03.03 | goxboxlive | kiozen: i have ccmake but the file QLandkarteGTis missing |
| 12:03.53 | kiozen | goxboxlive: that what you get from SVN |
| 12:04.03 | kiozen | it a directory |
| 12:04.15 | goxboxlive | kiozen: forget it, i'm stupid :-/ |
| 12:04.16 | kiozen | s/it/it's/ |
| 12:04.28 | kiozen | :) |
| 12:11.55 | goxboxlive | hmm porblems with gdal headers |
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| 12:12.36 | kiozen | pastebin? |
| 12:13.40 | kiozen | btw some map comparison: |
| 12:14.00 | goxboxlive | http://pastebin.no/3232 |
| 12:14.56 | kiozen | did you install gdal and proj4 on your system? |
| 12:14.56 | goxboxlive | i've installed libgdal1-dev |
| 12:15.04 | goxboxlive | proj4 no |
| 12:15.36 | kiozen | can you search for gdal_priv.h, mybe it's in a different path than /usr/include |
| 12:15.50 | kiozen | you need proj4 |
| 12:16.20 | kiozen | cr2: that is the reason why i want to keep dependencies low :) |
| 12:16.46 | kiozen | but screenshots: |
| 12:17.11 | kiozen | offical high detail map (raster): http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot1.png |
| 12:17.32 | kiozen | garmin (vector): http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot2.png |
| 12:17.52 | kiozen | osm (raster from vector): http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot3.png |
| 12:19.27 | kiozen | better you never trust a map :) |
| 12:22.20 | cr2 | kiozen: i think that compiling gdal without proj4 is criminal ;) |
| 12:22.45 | kiozen | have you heard goxboxlive :) |
| 12:23.55 | cr2 | kiozen: you should overlay the screenshots using different transparency. |
| 12:24.40 | kiozen | cr2: that is the longterm plan :) |
| 12:26.01 | cr2 | ok, if the screenshots are georeferenced (or have the same bbox) you can use qgis |
| 12:26.29 | goxboxlive | /usr/include/gdal/gdal_priv.h |
| 12:26.35 | goxboxlive | thats where my header is |
| 12:27.50 | cr2 | kiozen: is it ok to include gdal_priv.h ? |
| 12:28.19 | cr2 | i thought it's a private header for internal use. |
| 12:28.42 | kiozen | goxboxlive: hm, the official packet install will copy that stuff into /usr/include |
| 12:28.53 | kiozen | best you make some links |
| 12:29.04 | kiozen | cr2: from my point of view: no |
| 12:29.41 | kiozen | but it won't work with gdal.h (but I don't know if that was fixed lately) |
| 12:29.47 | cr2 | kiozen: ok. |
| 12:30.18 | cr2 | yes, many very useful functions are not exported. |
| 12:30.58 | cr2 | i had a problem with a >2GB .mif file recently. need to check 1.5.0 |
| 12:31.07 | kiozen | I am pragmatist :) |
| 12:31.26 | kiozen | btw, gtiff > 4GB should work with 1.5 and libtif |
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| 13:27.01 | kiozen | BabelO: the latest version in svn compiles for windows, but with my version of FWTools is get projection glitches |
| 13:38.37 | BabelO | kiozen: ok thx |
| 13:39.13 | BabelO | cr2: did you get loox gps working ? |
| 13:39.29 | kiozen | BabelO: but you must edit CMakeLists.txt to point o your FWTools installation |
| 13:40.04 | BabelO | kiozen: there is a cmake for windows, or is it cygwin part ? |
| 13:40.30 | kiozen | http://www.cmake.org/HTML/Index.html |
| 13:40.54 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, good surprise |
| 13:41.12 | kiozen | I use the QT commerial version for Windows and VC8.0 |
| 13:43.39 | cr2 | BabelO: not yet, but it should be easy. |
| 13:45.21 | BabelO | cr2: i see that omap850 have a lot of register with different shift than omap730 |
| 13:46.24 | BabelO | cr2: i just found yesturday why uart on artemis are never detected a 16750 port... because of hardcoded shift |
| 13:52.11 | kiozen | found the source of the projection problems: it has to be proj4 4.6 (4.5 will make trouble) |
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| 14:19.26 | cr2 | BabelO: good. add that to wiki, so we are not confused. |
| 14:20.49 | BabelO | cr2: yes |
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| 15:53.55 | cr2 | kiozen: have you seen http://www.geonames.org ? |
| 15:55.58 | kiozen | cr2: well, even it is a few 100m off, it finds the Zugspitze better than google |
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| 15:58.02 | cr2 | lol |
| 15:58.07 | kiozen | cr2: let's see if they have a nice interface I'll add them |
| 15:58.36 | cr2 | kiozen: i wish to have such GCP management, like it's done with their POI editing gui. |
| 15:59.43 | cr2 | you click on the GCP and can name it, can move it, and can edit the GCP properties in a QTable. |
| 15:59.55 | kiozen | link? |
| 16:00.01 | cr2 | i'm too dumb myself to write it in qt ;) |
| 16:00.17 | cr2 | search for something on geonames, and click 'show on the map' |
| 16:00.36 | cr2 | then you can click on the marker. |
| 16:00.59 | kiozen | ah ok, Isee what you mean |
| 16:02.18 | kiozen | cr2: well you can edit/move a waypoint in QLandkarte and GT/M will have it too soon |
| 16:03.45 | cr2 | ok. a GCP in GT/M needs the pixel coordinates, real coordinates, projection and name properties. |
| 16:04.21 | cr2 | i need to recompile qlandkarte, didn't use it for some time. |
| 16:04.36 | kiozen | cr2: sounds feasible |
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| 16:38.37 | kiozen | cr2: you can center map, now with GT |
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| 16:43.16 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:43.49 | cr2 | btw, you can also have a look how the GCPs are handled here http://www.globalmapper.com |
| 16:44.06 | cr2 | works in wine ;) |
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| 18:39.35 | BabelO | pH5: hi, what do you know about LOOP test on serial port ? |
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| 18:47.02 | pH5 | BabelO: no. you mean something like http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/cable/RS-232.html#loop ? |
| 18:47.47 | BabelO | pH5: not this one ;) |
| 18:47.55 | BabelO | pH5: this -> ttyS0: autoconf (0x0000, 0xfefb0800): LOOP test failed (00) type=unknown |
| 18:48.04 | BabelO | pH5: i try to setup UART on omap |
| 18:48.14 | BabelO | i found error in the code |
| 19:04.48 | BabelO | ok, so it is just a single test |
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| 19:13.10 | BabelO | cr2: what is your magic command for gps in command line ? ;) |
| 19:13.50 | cr2 | BabelO: lol |
| 19:13.59 | cr2 | cat /dev/ttyS0 |
| 19:14.41 | cr2 | for sirf there is a 'sirfmon' tool. |
| 19:14.56 | BabelO | cr2: ok is it part of gpsd package ? |
| 19:15.34 | cr2 | http://gpsd.berlios.de/sirfmon.html |
| 19:15.37 | cr2 | yes. |
| 19:15.51 | cr2 | only if you want sirf binary |
| 19:16.20 | BabelO | hum i miss libstdc++ to run sirfmon :( |
| 19:16.33 | cr2 | BabelO: 'cat' is ok for nmea |
| 19:16.47 | cr2 | heh. 'opensource' ;) |
| 19:17.01 | BabelO | cr2: serial8250.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0xfffb0000 (irq = 47) is a 16450 |
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| 19:17.09 | BabelO | serial8250.0: ttyS1 at MMIO 0xfffb0800 (irq = 46) is a 16450 |
| 19:17.11 | cr2 | wtf it has c++ dependency ? |
| 19:17.18 | cr2 | nice :) |
| 19:17.24 | cr2 | bt ? |
| 19:17.31 | BabelO | only thing strange to me is that in trm they say it is 16750 |
| 19:17.38 | BabelO | maybe i should force type too |
| 19:17.42 | cr2 | ir ? |
| 19:17.46 | cr2 | does not matter. |
| 19:18.01 | cr2 | 450 is without fifo, afair. |
| 19:18.19 | cr2 | for gps you'd be happy with 8250 ;) |
| 19:18.44 | cr2 | you don't really need fifo for gps anyway. |
| 19:19.31 | BabelO | cr2: yes it is bt for the ttyS0 and gps for ttyS1 |
| 19:19.43 | BabelO | i m looking for mknod parameters for ttyS1 :) |
| 19:19.48 | BabelO | ok found |
| 19:20.04 | cr2 | root uucp 4, 65 |
| 19:20.14 | cr2 | does your bt work ? |
| 19:20.21 | cr2 | it's brf6150 after all. |
| 19:20.57 | BabelO | for bt i ve not coded power pin, i can use demem after all ;) |
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| 19:23.58 | BabelO | cr2: but still no sd card :( |
| 19:24.11 | BabelO | that is why i look to other thing ;) |
| 19:27.25 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:27.54 | LunohoD | BabelO: do you know if the ir is also connected to the uart? |
| 19:28.15 | BabelO | LunohoD: in trm they say connected to uart2 |
| 19:28.24 | LunohoD | ok |
| 19:28.37 | LunohoD | prophet has no qwerty keyboard |
| 19:28.50 | LunohoD | but i've got an ir keyboard |
| 19:29.31 | cr2 | BabelO: you don't have ir ? |
| 19:30.10 | BabelO | cr2: no ir on artemis |
| 19:31.04 | cr2 | ok |
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| 19:38.03 | goxboxlive | hi ymerejt |
| 19:38.08 | paulproteus | Morning. |
| 19:38.08 | ymerejt | goxboxlive: hi |
| 19:38.18 | goxboxlive | I have some problems with our last build, or two last builds |
| 19:38.33 | goxboxlive | the battery doesnt last ling now. It's empty in one day |
| 19:38.43 | goxboxlive | s/ling/long |
| 19:38.55 | goxboxlive | have you noticed it? |
| 19:39.08 | ymerejt | goxboxlive: interresting ... yes ... and I don't know why at this time ... |
| 19:39.28 | goxboxlive | hmm, have you done something to gprs? |
| 19:39.46 | ymerejt | goxboxlive: nothing in the kernel ... |
| 19:40.13 | goxboxlive | ok, but in the qtopia source? |
| 19:40.32 | ymerejt | something but nothing relevant |
| 19:40.38 | goxboxlive | I have allways ttyUSB0 running. Maybe that can have something to do with it |
| 19:40.41 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:41.04 | ymerejt | goxboxlive: ttyUSB0 is not running on mine and I have power problem too |
| 19:41.11 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:41.12 | ymerejt | A list of question |
| 19:41.27 | ymerejt | goxboxlive: on your last release which works fine which hh?? did you use ? |
| 19:41.41 | goxboxlive | 21 |
| 19:41.52 | goxboxlive | + your changes |
| 19:42.16 | goxboxlive | i think it happend when i moved over to your git kernel |
| 19:42.40 | goxboxlive | i have noticed this only the last week |
| 19:42.56 | ymerejt | so from saturday |
| 19:43.02 | goxboxlive | i guess so |
| 19:43.21 | paulproteus | I had some power problems three weeks ago (like it would not last a full day), but I wasn't sure if they were due to my battery being bad or what, and then I left my Uni with some friends by accident and haven't gotten it back yet. |
| 19:47.53 | ymerejt | goxboxlive: did you have my old htcuniversal_acx.c patch ? |
| 19:48.32 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: yes i have it, but i havent included it in the git kernel |
| 19:48.43 | ymerejt | could you pastebin it please ? |
| 19:50.28 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: now i remember when i noticed it. It was the day i sent you pics of my keyboard. I was playing with the keyboard backlight, an i noticed the battery drained so fast. I thought it was the backlight, but it drained out after i charged the battery |
| 19:50.33 | goxboxlive | yes i can pastebin it |
| 19:51.18 | ymerejt | goxboxlive: you send me the pics on saturday |
| 19:51.46 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: http://pastebin.ca/880311 |
| 19:51.55 | goxboxlive | right, then it was saturday i noticed |
| 19:52.10 | goxboxlive | so i guess it has something to do with the new git kernel then |
| 19:55.22 | ymerejt | goxboxlive: please apply it again ... do a one day test and let me know if the problem disappear or not |
| 19:55.49 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:56.01 | ymerejt | goxboxlive: and think to load the htcuniversal_acx module of course (and never the acx) |
| 19:59.23 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: the htcuniversal_acx modul was not loaded |
| 20:00.04 | ymerejt | probably but you need to load it to do the test |
| 20:01.15 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i'll try the new kernel i made now |
| 20:02.52 | ymerejt | ok |
| 20:04.15 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, paulproteus: it's diner time ... come back soon |
| 20:04.26 | paulproteus | Lunch time here anyway (-: |
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| 20:37.05 | vekexasia | hi people |
| 20:37.38 | vekexasia | did you get memory card access control for trinity or hermes? |
| 20:37.40 | vekexasia | Kevin2? |
| 20:38.05 | cr2 | BabelO: what is ABB_VC* ? |
| 20:38.44 | cr2 | BabelO: i like the radio interface there :) |
| 20:38.54 | joschkopf | hi BabelO i'm trying to get the haret stuff working... but the physical to virtual mapping does not work as you told me... could you or anybody else help? |
| 20:40.18 | BabelO | cr2: where did you see ABB_VC* ? which line |
| 20:40.26 | BabelO | joschkopf: what did you try ? |
| 20:42.02 | joschkopf | actuall |
| 20:42.04 | joschkopf | ups |
| 20:42.10 | joschkopf | actually the p2v command does not work |
| 20:42.29 | joschkopf | do i really have to go through the mmu-dump? :-/ |
| 20:42.35 | BabelO | joschkopf: it works perfect on my device |
| 20:42.44 | joschkopf | haret 0.5.1 ? |
| 20:42.50 | BabelO | can you past your command ? |
| 20:43.19 | joschkopf | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.42 | BabelO | joschkopf: ok and then wi ? |
| 20:44.11 | joschkopf | yes... doesn't show any memory action... |
| 20:44.11 | BabelO | maybe it is like for me you see no trace ? |
| 20:44.32 | cr2 | BabelO: after wlan_reset |
| 20:44.42 | BabelO | joschkopf: can you test it on i2c adress ? |
| 20:44.47 | joschkopf | and addr2mod p2v(0xfffc1000) sais that address doesn't belong to a process |
| 20:46.25 | joschkopf | HaRET(43)# addr2mod p2v(0xfffc1000) |
| 20:46.25 | joschkopf | Address b80c1000 not process specific |
| 20:46.27 | cr2 | it belongs to the kernel. |
| 20:47.25 | joschkopf | mh, i see, i thought it would belong to touch.dll or so |
| 20:48.10 | cr2 | joschkopf: is the 0xfff 1:1 mapping ? |
| 20:48.38 | cr2 | BabelO: it may have been better to run sed over the .lst file with the data from wiki ;) |
| 20:48.55 | cr2 | BabelO: what is 0xfffe1020 ? |
| 20:49.18 | joschkopf | i didn't have a chance to look at the mmudump, because i didn't manage to log it into a file :( |
| 20:49.22 | BabelO | cr2: SPARE1 config register |
| 20:49.53 | cr2 | ok. do you set it the same way as wince ? |
| 20:49.58 | joschkopf | or, i did... i thought it would dump to my linux machine ... ?!?! fool me |
| 20:50.34 | BabelO | cr2: which value ? |
| 20:50.56 | cr2 | BabelO: the sd setup configures a lot ;) |
| 20:50.58 | BabelO | joschkopf: you use log toto.txt |
| 20:51.08 | BabelO | joschkopf: then command to dump mmu |
| 20:51.13 | BabelO | joschkopf: then unlog ? |
| 20:51.26 | BabelO | cr2: yes a lot, but did not see any power related |
| 20:51.30 | cr2 | PCC_SOFT_REQ |
| 20:51.33 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:52.03 | cr2 | 0x79 and 0x8d are docuemnted ? |
| 20:52.44 | BabelO | cr2: i set 0x2 to SPARE1 |
| 20:52.51 | joschkopf | BabelO: i was dumb... i though it would log to linux machine instead of the pda |
| 20:52.51 | BabelO | cr2: only the bit |
| 20:53.13 | cr2 | |4 and then |0x1000 |
| 20:53.32 | cr2 | on 834 |
| 20:53.47 | BabelO | cr2: hum i set 0x2 to 1020 then 0x4 to 10b4 then 0x1000 to 0834 |
| 20:53.48 | cr2 | sorry. |
| 20:53.58 | cr2 | 4 is on 10b4 |
| 20:54.03 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:54.35 | BabelO | cr2: and to finish ;) set gpio 0xa3 to 1 |
| 20:54.35 | cr2 | BabelO: 79 and 8d ? |
| 20:54.41 | BabelO | cr2: i set this two gpios to 0 |
| 20:55.00 | cr2 | r0=0 |
| 20:55.06 | BabelO | cr2: what value did you want me to try ? |
| 20:56.00 | cr2 | yes. that's ok. |
| 20:56.33 | cr2 | and for wifi ? |
| 20:56.38 | BabelO | cr2: i ll try to add more trace to mmc then |
| 20:56.43 | vekexasia | dio porco |
| 20:57.12 | cr2 | 79=1 8d=0 |
| 20:57.24 | cr2 | BabelO: dump gpio on a running machine. |
| 20:57.43 | vekexasia | hei? |
| 20:57.50 | vekexasia | what's about hermes or trinit? |
| 20:57.52 | BabelO | cr2: where are these gpios adress ? |
| 20:57.53 | cr2 | BabelO: and check the values. |
| 20:58.12 | cr2 | BabelO: run 'watch gpio 1' |
| 20:58.36 | cr2 | vekexasia: no, i'm lazy. |
| 20:59.14 | cr2 | BabelO: what is 0x896 ? |
| 20:59.27 | cr2 | 0x890 | 6 |
| 20:59.54 | cr2 | ah, it's some mmc reg |
| 20:59.57 | cr2 | 7806 |
| 21:00.53 | joschkopf | BabelO: i also don't see anything on the i2c address, no irqs masked |
| 21:01.14 | cr2 | BabelO: but there is nothing else before CMD0 |
| 21:02.49 | cr2 | BabelO: how is the SD clock controlled ? |
| 21:03.16 | BabelO | joschkopf: try to pd 0xfffe1074 0x40 and check all ioconf |
| 21:03.59 | cr2 | BabelO: |2 for 24MHz and |0x18 for 2MHz. which reg is that ? |
| 21:04.04 | BabelO | cr2: that is the big clock question :) i did not found it on setups |
| 21:04.29 | cr2 | it's 7806. |
| 21:04.31 | BabelO | cr2: mmc under linux, test and reply me 24Mhz |
| 21:04.47 | cr2 | which is set to 0x890 | 6 as i've written. |
| 21:05.20 | cr2 | BabelO: pd 0xfffb7806 4 |
| 21:06.17 | cr2 | BabelO: pd 0xfffb7804 4 |
| 21:06.28 | cr2 | 6 is unaligned |
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| 21:06.51 | BabelO | cr2: ok i try |
| 21:10.03 | cr2 | BabelO: while reading from the card. |
| 21:10.50 | BabelO | cr2: ok, i can see a MMC clock request also , the 0x6 |
| 21:13.33 | cr2 | BabelO: 6=4+2 |
| 21:13.49 | cr2 | 2 is 24, 4 is start ? |
| 21:13.52 | BabelO | cr2: yes ;) 0x2 is always here |
| 21:14.01 | cr2 | it's strange that they start at 24MHz |
| 21:14.20 | cr2 | but ok, in case of timeout, you can switch to 2. |
| 21:14.35 | BabelO | cr2: bad news pd 0xfffb7800 0xff return me always 0 for all registers |
| 21:15.14 | cr2 | ati SD starts at 315kHz and then can go up to 80MHz/4. |
| 21:15.26 | cr2 | BabelO: are you running the latest haret ? |
| 21:15.33 | BabelO | cr2: yes 0.5.0 |
| 21:16.15 | cr2 | something is wrong there. it can be an untraceable i2c/spi too ;) |
| 21:16.46 | BabelO | very strange, as i can trace i2c when i power up my camera |
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| 21:18.03 | BabelO | cr2: 0x2 is Internal APPL 48Mhz and 0x6 is MMC/SDIO clock request 48 Mhz |
| 21:18.11 | BabelO | sorry 0x4 |
| 21:18.38 | cr2 | ok, but where is the divisor ? |
| 21:19.32 | BabelO | cr2: in the other manual :) |
| 21:21.36 | joschkopf | BabelO, cr2: sorry for bothering you again with dumb questions... just tell me if you are too busy... what should the dump of the ioconf registers tell me? |
| 21:22.19 | BabelO | joschkopf: it tell you pin setup up for spi bus, so maybe you can know which spi port is used |
| 21:23.50 | joschkopf | BabelO: ok... and the numbers in omap register map at xda-dev are really physical addresses? |
| 21:24.42 | BabelO | joschkopf: yes |
| 21:25.06 | joschkopf | BabelO: i am asking because i cannot find any addresses similar to these in the mmu dump |
| 21:25.52 | joschkopf | anyway, thanks a lot... i try to figure out the ioconf thing |
| 21:25.55 | BabelO | joschkopf: really ? can you pastebin your ? |
| 21:26.13 | joschkopf | sure, just a second |
| 21:26.52 | joschkopf | maybe i'm too unexperienced to read it... but wait |
| 21:29.05 | joschkopf | http://pastebin.com/m60e8c72e |
| 21:32.16 | BabelO | joschkopf: yes don't understand your mmu dump :( |
| 21:33.14 | cr2 | joschkopf: the 0xfff is usually mapped 1:1 |
| 21:33.47 | cr2 | BabelO: but what does the tornado et al. do with these regs ? |
| 21:34.06 | cr2 | BabelO: isn't mmc driver from omap1 tree ? |
| 21:34.45 | BabelO | cr2: it is omap.c from omap tree and patched mmc from hh tree, but i do a merge |
| 21:34.46 | joschkopf | cr2: then it should be the same result with or without p2v, right? |
| 21:34.54 | BabelO | cr2: have to try with wizard tree then |
| 21:35.13 | cr2 | joschkopf: fff00000 | | UNMAPPED | |
| 21:35.31 | cr2 | joschkopf: hmm. there should be a 4k mapping then. weird. |
| 21:36.15 | joschkopf | cr2: maybe it is because i have wm6 on wizard? |
| 21:36.28 | BabelO | joschkopf: i ve wm6 too |
| 21:37.00 | joschkopf | BabelO: wiza200 ? |
| 21:37.14 | BabelO | joschkopf: no i ve arte1000 |
| 21:37.16 | BabelO | :) |
| 21:37.26 | joschkopf | joschkopf: hm :) |
| 21:39.18 | joschkopf | BabelO: cr2: too bad... maybe i'll try with wm5... thanks again for your kind help :) |
| 21:39.23 | joschkopf | good night |
| 21:40.22 | BabelO | good night |
| 21:48.51 | cr2 | BabelO: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space |
| 21:49.22 | BabelO | cr2: no heap, i hate this message... |
| 21:49.52 | BabelO | cr2: if you are under windows , you have a special reg key to update for more heap allocation :) |
| 21:50.27 | cr2 | -Xmx1024M |
| 21:50.39 | cr2 | lol. "under windows" |
| 21:51.29 | BabelO | cr2: yes i know, "windows". at work we got lot of issue with heap and running services |
| 22:08.39 | cr2 | BabelO: the send_sdcmd function is missing, but you can easily guess where it is. |
| 22:09.01 | cr2 | BabelO: actually the SD does not look very complex. |
| 22:09.32 | cr2 | but i don't see any other gpios, so it should be the MMC regs... |
| 22:09.47 | BabelO | cr2: not very complex, it seem that setup i ve done look ok, i just miss clock or power |
| 22:09.54 | BabelO | i think clock is ok |
| 22:11.33 | cr2 | BabelO: does your gps work ? and bt ? |
| 22:11.56 | BabelO | cr2: i continue to test other possibility with 0xa3, 0x79 and 0x8d, it seem that 0x79 disable mmc detection |
| 22:12.37 | BabelO | cr2: it freeze when i cat /dev/ttyS1, so it is a clock issue i think, but just found a potential mistake from me |
| 22:16.14 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:16.54 | BabelO | cr2: http://pastebin.com/m3b4fef35 |
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| 22:25.46 | BabelO | cr2: it seem i got only full result when gpio 0xa3 is set, the one called megasim power on ;) |
| 22:26.07 | BabelO | cr2: maybe megasim is microsd, big sim :) |
| 22:28.01 | cr2 | no, it's something else. |
| 22:28.55 | cr2 | what is mpuio_msim ? |
| 22:29.50 | cr2 | e1078 |
| 22:30.10 | cr2 | BabelO: what is set_1078 doing ? |
| 22:30.30 | BabelO | cr2: ah ah same question... i see it too |
| 22:33.33 | BabelO | cr2: 1078 is whgat i do too it is pin mux for mmc set up |
| 22:33.57 | BabelO | 000: SDMC_CLK, SDMC_CMD, SDMC_DAT_0, |
| 22:33.57 | BabelO | SDMC_DAT_1 |
| 22:34.06 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:34.31 | BabelO | hmm no, it reverse, it set pin to gpio mode not mmc mode |
| 22:34.52 | cr2 | this megasim operates through SD . |
| 22:35.14 | cr2 | there are 0,1,2 values for mux. |
| 22:35.28 | cr2 | 0 is SD, 1 is wifi and 2 is megasim. |
| 22:35.47 | BabelO | cr2: ok so it is why i mmc is verbose when i set gpio a3 |
| 22:35.52 | paulproteus | "Megasim"? Good Lord, what is that? |
| 22:35.54 | cr2 | they all send some SD commands. |
| 22:36.11 | cr2 | paulproteus: google ? |
| 22:36.40 | paulproteus | http://www.sandisk.com/OEM/ProductCatalog(1271)-SanDisk_Family_of_SIM_Cards.aspx - freaky-deaky |
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| 22:45.26 | BabelO | cr2: this one is the more verbose i can get http://pastebin.com/m1375e6df |
| 22:46.02 | goxboxlive | test |
| 22:46.12 | BabelO | norvegian test ;) |
| 22:46.29 | BabelO | goxboxlive: where are you connected ? |
| 22:46.40 | goxboxlive | good :-) i upgraded my router today, and everything has been a mess. AT last i'm back online |
| 22:46.56 | goxboxlive | BabelO: what do you mean? |
| 22:46.59 | goxboxlive | at home |
| 22:47.32 | BabelO | ok ;) i home someone at tapioca fix the irc module, so you can connect to freenode with my app |
| 22:48.17 | goxboxlive | oh cool. Is it added to OE? |
| 22:48.22 | cr2 | BabelO: why 400kHz ? and what is EOC ? |
| 22:48.47 | BabelO | cr2: 400Khz is the clock f_min it seem and 24Mhz f_max |
| 22:49.05 | BabelO | after that don't understand what are other CMD trace and response |
| 22:52.25 | cr2 | BabelO: are there any wince settings for f_min ? |
| 22:53.30 | BabelO | goxboxlive: not at the moemnt, my compilation step are ok, but need to add compilation step for MSN / yahoo module too |
| 22:54.01 | cr2 | Vdd 20 looks weird. |
| 22:54.43 | BabelO | cr2: don't know wince setting, register dump always return me 0 |
| 22:55.37 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok |
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| 23:05.00 | BabelO | cr2: what are the unk_xxxxx meaning ? |
| 23:06.58 | cr2 | references. |
| 23:09.17 | cr2 | BabelO: i think sed will be very helpful :) |
| 23:09.27 | cr2 | don't know how to do it directly. |
| 23:10.52 | elmo40 | do all htc phones use the 'sim chip' ? |
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| 23:18.47 | cr2 | elmo40: don't know about the US CDMA. |
| 23:19.05 | cr2 | elmo40: but afaik nobody used them as a phone so far. |
| 23:19.09 | cr2 | in linux. |
| 23:20.58 | elmo40 | cant use them as a phone when you run linux? |
| 23:21.19 | elmo40 | how about messengers? wifi? web? |
| 23:21.23 | elmo40 | skype? :) |
| 23:23.30 | cr2 | afaik nobody really tried |
| 23:28.39 | cr2 | BabelO: there are some small funcs at the beginning, which may be described better. |
| 23:30.10 | BabelO | cr2: at the beginninh ? |
| 23:30.18 | cr2 | yes. |
| 23:30.21 | BabelO | cr2: do you have a line number ? |
| 23:30.29 | cr2 | i think there are leds and such. |
| 23:30.48 | cr2 | 8c001400 |
| 23:30.58 | cr2 | and 1418 |
| 23:32.36 | cr2 | 1434 |
| 23:34.56 | BabelO | cr2: i see |
| 23:48.40 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: who is maintaining branch ficgta01? |
| 23:48.47 | paulproteus | ljp! |
| 23:48.52 | paulproteus | Wait, *branch*? |
| 23:48.53 | goxboxlive | is he active? |
| 23:48.54 | paulproteus | Lemme see. |
| 23:49.17 | paulproteus | http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=summary has no "branch" ficgta01, but it has a directory of that name - you mean that directory, right? |
| 23:49.34 | paulproteus | I'm pretty sure it's ljp, but if not ljp then it must be some other Troll because updates keep coming in the snapshots. |
| 23:49.51 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: 2007-12-24Asheesh LaroiaBranching ficgta01 |
| 23:50.19 | paulproteus | Oh, that was just me trying to merge ymerejt's changes in a reasonable way. |
| 23:50.31 | paulproteus | By "branching" I just meant copying the ficgta01 directory, and then applying ymerejt's changes. |
| 23:50.56 | goxboxlive | ok, so it is a branch then, right? I can check it out and add mp3 support and other applications right? |
| 23:51.01 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 23:52.07 | goxboxlive | and then commit it again right? |
| 23:52.34 | goxboxlive | i want a ficgta01 branch like openezx and htcuniversal |
| 23:52.44 | goxboxlive | am i able to create that? |
| 23:52.46 | paulproteus | Yes |
| 23:52.57 | paulproteus | IMHO you should base your new branch off htcuniversal, not "master". |
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| 23:53.58 | paulproteus | The reason I made the branches is not to separate *devices* but to separate *developers*. |
| 23:54.37 | paulproteus | I'm not sure if you want the changes from the htcuniversal branch or not in the ficgta01 branch. |
| 23:54.42 | paulproteus | If you don't, all you have to do is: |
| 23:55.00 | paulproteus | 1. git branch --track neo origin/master |
| 23:55.06 | paulproteus | 2. git checkout neo |
| 23:55.16 | paulproteus | (3. Hack and "git commit") |
| 23:55.24 | paulproteus | 4. git push origin neo:refs/heads/ficgta01 |
| 23:55.31 | paulproteus | There, does that make sense? |
| 23:56.18 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: yes, i dont want htcuniversal hacks in qtopia source for openezx and ficgta01. They are for htcuniversal only |
| 23:56.24 | paulproteus | Got it - then do the above. |
| 23:57.26 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: yes, and building for several devices in one tree with diffrents branches doesnt work . It has breaked for me while building. Thats way you need diffrents branch for diffrents devices |
| 23:57.31 | goxboxlive | i(i think) |
| 23:57.34 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 23:57.38 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 23:57.45 | paulproteus | Can't say I've tried it.... |
| 23:58.46 | goxboxlive | it failed for me once, but that might be a covincidense |
