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10:03.26cr2hi
10:03.55CoW_hi
10:04.02CoW_brb
10:05.21BabelOhi CoW_, cr2
10:05.48CoW_hi Babel0
10:11.20CD_Fighte1hi
10:11.54CD_Fighte1is the keyboard working on hermes?
10:23.24BabelOCD_Fighter: i think yes, Kevin2 has done keyboard driver, but his driver is on linuxtogo.org git
10:24.32CD_Fighteri have used the git
10:27.03LunohoD_re
10:27.16CD_Fighterbut i don't know which kernelsettings.... in hermes_defconfig the keyboard didn't work
10:29.00BabelOkiozen: lol very funny dialog box on qlandkarte
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11:16.42aLeSD_hi all
11:19.09kiozenBabelO: which dialog?
12:25.16cr2kiozen: qgis warps the geotiff in realtime now, if it has the GCP tags available.
13:33.01kiozencr2: warp == reproject ?
13:34.23cr2yes.
13:34.31cr2gdalwarp in "realtime"
13:35.23cr2we don't need it, but i'm still searching for an efficient tool for adding GCPs.
13:35.27kiozencr2: even with big files?
13:35.51cr2yes, i've checked it on one 4000x4000 file.
13:37.06cr2i have some resampling problems with 3 tiles of 200, which i don't fully understand.
13:41.07kiozencr2: can qgis stitch the files together after rerojecting them?
13:44.52cr2gdalwarp can do it
13:45.35cr2if the tiles have different palettes, i guess it will create 3band rgb.
13:46.50cr2which is not nice. i don't know a commandline tool to resample/reduce the colors. imagemagick ?
13:53.36kiozencr2:  http://www.pc-erfahrung.de/linux/linux-imagemagick.html
13:54.24cr2hmm. but it will hurt the geotiff tags ? how do we restore them ?
13:56.30cr2http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage
13:57.57cr2http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/quantize/#colors
13:58.50kiozencr2 gtif -> tiff -> image magic -> tiff -> gtiff
13:59.46kiozencr2: I could ask in the gdal news group
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13:59.59kiozencr2: we can't be first doing this
14:00.08cr2yes.
14:00.41cr2are you going to use gdaltindex shapefile ?
14:01.13cr2i think it's more efficient in many cases than creating a full rectangular geotiff.
14:02.36kiozennever thought about it, isn't the base always rectangular?
14:03.05kiozenunles you reproject the file it should
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14:03.37drengurevenin
14:04.34drengurso.... linux on a HTC....
14:04.44drenguris it viable yet?
14:05.25cr2drengur: it depends on the device
14:06.24cr2kiozen: the geotiff is always rectangular, but it you have may disjoint tiles it's better to use an index.
14:06.38drengurhrm
14:07.35cr2kiozen: on the other hand the compressed tile filled with transparency does not take much space ?
14:07.56goxboxlivedrengur: you dont need the model number, just the name of the device.
14:08.12kiozencr2: that is right. and if you have disjoint files you have several maps
14:08.19drengurHTC P3600i
14:08.43drengurthat may be so, however none of this is immediately obvious
14:08.54kiozenM version is planned to auto select the right map on current location
14:09.01cr2kiozen: my test set has about 200 tiles, but they have very strange 'filling' pattern.
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14:09.10kiozen?
14:10.04cr2kiozen: they cover 300x400 km rectangle, but not all maps are available.
14:10.35kiozencr2: ok, btw, is there a way to exchange the files. that would help me to understand
14:10.58cr2kiozen: look what gdaltindex does. you don't need it for TOP*, that's for sure.
14:11.13cr2ok, i'll have a look how big is the full archive.
14:11.49kiozencr2: anyway one big file is easier to handle than 200 single ones
14:12.15drengurcr2: is it worth my time looking at this? is there any help I can offer?
14:12.44cr2kiozen: 100MB+280MB of raw data.
14:13.35kiozentoo big for mail, ok for ftp, wait ...
14:13.39cr2kiozen: there are GCPs for them, so the conversion is automated.
14:14.44cr2drengur: Samsung 500 MHz processor ?
14:14.51cr2drengur: is it s3c2442 ?
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14:16.18drengurcr2 that's the one
14:16.38drengursorry, it's been a good 3 years since I've been on here
14:16.46drengurI've forgotten it all
14:16.48drengur:-S
14:16.49cr2drengur: can you run haret on it ?
14:17.05drengurit's an SC32442B
14:17.26drengurI haven't tried anything as of yet
14:17.53cr2ok. let's hope that it uses s3c2442 SD, then your changes to run linux are good.
14:18.16drengurbut in the last few months we've merged from .NET to Java I've had the freedom to switch OS's
14:18.34cr2kiozen: i'll prepare the data and send you an e-mail.
14:18.42drengurand some of this fucking MS shit is really driving me nuts
14:19.16cr2drengur: you need to get familiar with running haret, and tracing the gpios.
14:19.22drengurwhy do they need to tell me the battery is low every 10 secs.... and disrupt what I'm doing
14:19.53cr2drengur: we also need to find out if they use some cpld there.
14:20.55drengurwhat sort of basic functionality does it have?
14:21.04kiozencr2: wait, I have setup an ftp server...
14:21.32drenguror are we talking real experimental here....
14:21.33cr2drengur: haret ? read the docs.
14:21.50cr2hm. real experimental for now.
14:21.51drengurlooking now
14:23.45drengurcool cool, if it is just running over the current firmware that's all good
14:23.56drengurlong as I can make and recieve calls :P
14:24.19kiozencr2: you have got mail
14:24.42cr2kiozen: not yet.
14:25.42cr2kiozen: ok.
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14:38.55kiozencr2: lol http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,528797,00.html "Das iPhone hat es schon"
14:42.33cr2kiozen: lol. they all hope for $$$ :)
14:43.06cr280k/s
14:44.22kiozencr2: I would like to see one of those iPhone dandies right in the middle of the woods. (Or in N48° 20.984 E011° 57.325 )
14:44.49cr2hehe. no umts there ? :)
14:45.25kiozenwhat?! trees exist in real !
14:45.32cr2:)
14:45.56cr2the <cellid> gpx tag may be helpful for logging.
14:46.20cr2kiozen: here is the clue: Um das tun zu können, müssen die Hersteller allerdings Lizenzen für die Skyhooks-Software kaufen.
14:47.53kiozenthe best is in the beginning: because gps receivers use too much current you have to fireup WIFI
14:48.44cr2it's not so dumb as it sounds.
14:49.09kiozenonly as long as you disable the transmitter
14:49.16cr2you only need to pick the broadcast.
14:49.18cr2yes.
14:49.34cr2well, you do the same with gps after all.
14:49.35kiozenbut without that you can't pull the maps from google
14:49.59kiozenor any other pay per use server
14:50.00cr2lol. unless you do evil :)
14:50.36kiozenI never do evel. I am small, blond and unguilty
14:51.00cr2btw, that's why downloading and stitching OSM tiles is such a big deal.
14:51.44cr22GB sd card vs. how much minutes of umts fees ?
14:52.16kiozenwell right in the woods you will grow roots :)
14:53.19cr2kiozen: and near the country border you can only hope not to enable roaming :)
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14:53.52kiozenwell, if you can afford overpriced phones..
14:54.42cr2yeah, iphone owners will pay for 'wps' anyway.
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15:32.20cr2kiozen: that will be an interesting real-life test. these pictures are not copyrighted, which is a good thing too.
15:33.33kiozencr2: yes, lets see, do have a qmap file, too?
15:34.06cr2kiozen: i'll upload the conversion script, and qmap too.
15:34.16kiozenack
15:34.26cr2these maps are very good, but a bit outdated.
15:35.00cr2overlaying OSM was an interesting experience for me :)
15:35.37cr2but we should put a legal note for somebody who is really going to use them.
15:36.29BabelOcr2: do you have something to extract OSM to qlandkarteM or roadmap format ?
15:37.01cr2it's illegal to posess some information from these maps in certain countries.
15:37.01kiozencr2: let's put a legal notice in every 256x256 tile :)
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15:37.54cr2BabelO: roadmap and M are different.
15:38.05dcordeshi all
15:38.44cr2BabelO: you can use wget to fetch the prerendered OSM tiles, but we need some handy tool for stitching them into a geotiff used by M
15:38.47cr2hi dcordes
15:39.11cr2BabelO: for roadmap i usually use a script to convert .mp into .rdm
15:39.35dcordescr2, good to see you. is there any news?
15:39.42cr2no.
15:43.50dcordesit's a very deflating situation - just sitting and waiting
15:49.53dcordesswetland, will you guys ever release your SD driver for msm7200a?
15:52.06dcordeshat von euch mal jemand einen quadrocopter gebaut?
15:52.23dcordessry
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16:10.23cr2kiozen: sending the GCPs and the script
16:11.59cr2kiozen: ready.
16:13.06cr2hmm. gdalwarp is not very bright. it picked the first (or the last) palette for all tiles.
16:14.09kiozencr2:  I can close the server ?
16:15.32kiozencr2: can't find qmap
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16:22.02cr2kiozen: sorry, i'll upload qmap now.
16:22.17kiozenok
16:22.42cr2kiozen: but it's easy to to recreate it by doing 'ls *.tif' :)
16:23.14kiozenhate shell scripting, was never good in it :)
16:25.22cr2done.
16:26.32cr2you need to unzip the gcps, maybe adjust the dir= path in the convert script.
16:27.01cr214m/pix is an empirical value.
16:28.08kiozenok, I will have a look at it in the evening, have to collect my son, soon
16:29.06cr2ok.
16:40.57kiozenbbl
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17:50.07ymerejtall: hi
17:51.27cr2hi ymerejt
18:01.26goxboxliveola
18:01.32goxboxliveymerejt: any good news?
18:01.47goxboxlivehave you solved the bugs?
18:02.12goxboxliveAnd cr2? What about the cam drivers? You make i build :-)
18:05.32ymerejtI'm trying to upload my last kernel version on the diogene31 git repository ... ;)
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18:11.48goxboxliveymerejt: cool, can that be commited to the hh.org source or will it break other devices?
18:12.26ymerejtbreak, break I don't think so but some new features need to be discuss I guess
18:12.57goxboxliveymerejt: ok, what is the changes?
18:16.30ymerejta big refactoring on htcuniversal part
18:16.37ymerejta new tool to manage power on devices
18:17.00ymerejtdisable some things during the suspend
18:19.47goxboxliveok
18:21.37ymerejtmerge with my last qtopia change, the airplane mode works and the modem is correctly managed
18:27.01goxboxliveymerejt: ok, so should do a git pullnow then?
18:27.14ymerejtof qtopia ?
18:27.42goxboxliveyes
18:27.50goxboxlivei havent done that for weeks now
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18:27.58ymerejtif you don't need the call history, you can
18:28.42goxboxliveymerejt: ok, i need call history :-)
18:29.08goxboxlivewhy is that broken?
18:29.52ymerejtgoxboxlive, I don't know it came with the last qtopia snapshot ...
18:30.18goxboxliveok, so it might work again now then. It has been an update again today
18:30.58goxboxliveymerejt: should i use your new kernel source now, or should i wait with that too?
18:31.32ymerejtI'm currently doing many git add/commit/push cycles
18:31.40ymerejtwait a moment
18:34.47ymerejtgoxboxlive, I just merged with the really last qtopia_snapshot ... I'm building it
18:35.58goxboxliveok good
18:36.35ymerejtgoxboxlive, and now the airplane mode really works fine ;)
18:36.44ymerejtgoxboxlive, very useful during the night
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19:08.25cr2ymerejt: can you create a working image ?
19:08.53ymerejtof what ?
19:09.46ymerejtkernel ?
19:16.29ymerejtcr2, goxboxlive, my last kernel is the htcuniversal branch on http://82.243.122.54/git/kernel_pda.git
19:17.32ymerejtgoxboxlive, and my last qtopia version is already online
19:18.04ymerejtgoxboxlive, you have to change the qpe.sh line : export QWS_KEYBOARD="htckbdhandler:/dev/input/event0 htckbdhandler:/dev/input/event1 htckbdhandler:/dev/inpu
19:18.04ymerejtt/event2"
19:18.21ymerejtand be careful, now all is module !
19:18.33ymerejtso do the correct change on modutils
19:20.38diogene31MichouX|NA: If you're here but don't see my messages on the other topic, ring a bell please.
19:22.51ymerejtgoxboxlive, and use the root .config file instead of the defconfigs (I know it's ugly but ... :^))
19:25.02kiozencr2: ?
19:25.38BabelOhi kiozen
19:25.48kiozenhi BabelO
19:26.22BabelOkiozen: on windows i made some test this afternoon at office, when i set COM3: to devices then it say can't open port, but no dbg trace, and if i say COM3 it hang
19:27.14kiozenBabelO: hm, don't know if you can do an open() on a port in Win32
19:27.19kiozenI doubt it
19:27.34kiozenwhat about the NMEATcp ?
19:29.38BabelOkiozen: i try also nmeatcp but it found nothing
19:29.39kiozencr2: trying to understand your shell script. too much awk for my taste!
19:30.03kiozenBabelO: that is frustrating
19:30.19kiozenbest you ask Juan, maybe he can help
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19:31.04BabelOkiozen: ok
19:38.40cr2kiozen: the GCPs are in +proj=latlong, so they are first reprojected with 'cs2cs' into marcator.
19:39.33kiozencr2:  I was just wondering how to iterate over all files, but I found out myself :)
19:39.42cr2the *.gcp file contains the GCPs as it's expected by gdal_translate
19:40.03cr2for file in * ; do xxx ; done
19:40.11kiozenyou love mercator, don't you
19:40.41cr2for the global dataset it's the most simple thing :)
19:41.26kiozenuntil you want to know distances...
19:41.33goxboxliveymerejt: ok, i'll try
19:41.37goxboxliveymerejt: thx
19:41.50cr2kiozen: i find transverse mercator confusing. don't remember why gauss and the military like it ;)
19:42.18kiozenwhat about Eckert II :)
19:43.19cr2it's not as easy as log(tan(x)) to convert.
19:44.36kiozenok, got all tiles referenced
19:44.49kiozendid you ever test how accurate it is?
19:45.28goxboxliveymerejt: now, how do i check out the new kernel source?
19:45.34cr2loaded it in qgis and overlaid the OSM vector. it's very accurate.
19:46.06cr2kiozen: OSM for that area can't even be compared with the shit google provides ;)
19:46.54kiozenlol, there is no market value for google
19:47.12ymerejtgoxboxlive, git clone http://82.243.122.54/git/kernel_pda.git
19:47.20goxboxlivedone that
19:47.26goxboxlivebut hat is the branch
19:47.34goxboxliveorigin/htcuniversal?
19:47.37cr2kiozen: lol, the land and houses there cost more than in Bavaria :)
19:47.55ymerejtgoxboxlive, git branch --track htcuniversal origin/htcuniversal
19:48.11ymerejtand checkout htcuniversal of course
19:48.17kiozenthats why people can't spent money for stuff google want to advertise :)
19:48.18goxboxliveright thx
19:48.37goxboxliveso the call history worked too right
19:48.44cr2kiozen: lol
19:48.55goxboxliveWhat about dynamic rotation, was it in the source from Trolltech?
19:49.05goxboxliveor isent it added yet
19:49.45ymerejtgoxboxlive, I didn't seen it in the last sources
19:49.56goxboxliveok, then it isent added yet
19:53.52goxboxliveymerejt: what should export QWS_KEYBOARD be changed to? Should i just remove the line?
19:54.18ymerejtto the value I printed above
19:54.30ymerejtif nothing has changed it's ok
19:55.05kiozencr2: I wonder why every tile has such a different color table, looks like they are from different sources
19:55.44goxboxliveymerejt: so the TS is now event3
19:56.04goxboxlivedoesnt matter, it also Touchscreen0
19:56.06ymerejtgoxboxlive, but the touchscreen0 link is good
19:56.08ymerejt;)
19:56.10goxboxlive:-)
19:59.07goxboxliveIt really takes a while to clone the git tree
20:02.51diogene31goxboxlive: Sorry ...
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20:04.03cr2kiozen: yes, it's from different years and from different sources
20:05.17kiozenAh, thus the missmatch at the tile borders is tectonic movement :P
20:05.38d-harryhi
20:06.31goxboxlivediogene31: why sorry?
20:06.51diogene31goxboxlive: It's my server you're downloading from.
20:07.17goxboxlivediogene31: yes i know, but i am thankfull for that :-)
20:08.48cr2kiozen: i think they can be recalibrated to fix this problem, but one needs some comfortable gui for managing GCPs :)
20:09.04diogene31goxboxlive: :)
20:09.38cr2kiozen: where one can move the GCPs by drag-and-drop.
20:10.28kiozenlet's see either qgis or GT
20:12.43cr2qgis is more "professional" tool, but we can make GT more user-friendly. the calibration tool in ozi is not bad, but IMHO we can do better.
20:13.50cr2i think that moving GCPs by clicking is a must, but both tools do not support it.
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20:16.08goxboxliveymerejt: i dont understand this. The root .config isent a htcuniversal config. It misses a lot, in example "htcuniversal" :-)
20:16.16goxboxlivedid you forget to add it?
20:17.11ymerejtwhat is the last commit hash ?
20:17.59goxboxlivejrs@centrino:~/git/kernel_pda$ cat .git/ORIG_HEAD
20:17.59goxboxlive8a0dc2bd856f77e38466faab3a73676ad230532c
20:18.02kiozen_grr, I hate my wifi... let's see I have to get more into this map calibration business to understand what a good GUI has to offer.
20:19.06ymerejtgoxboxlive, ok it's normal
20:19.34goxboxliveymerejt: ?
20:19.45ymerejtpush problem I think
20:19.48goxboxliveso should i just run make then?
20:19.51goxboxliveok
20:19.52ymerejtno
20:19.55goxboxliveok
20:21.54ymerejtgoxboxlive,....... working on it .........
20:22.03goxboxlive:-)
20:22.07ymerejtchmod +x .git/hooks/post-update
20:22.10ymerejtand try to fetch
20:22.42ymerejtand run this damn post-update
20:24.21goxboxlivenope didnt help
20:25.55cr2kiozen_: the main problem for free software in this area is that people who know GIS are very bad in doing GUI, and vice versa ;) we have a good chance to change it.
20:28.51goxboxliveymerejt: cant you just pastebin the .config
20:29.25ymerejtnop because in fact you have the base branche and none of my changes
20:29.34ymerejtdiogene31 is currently checking why
20:30.08cr2kiozen_: and people doing calibration often have no clue about the projections, so they prefer lat/long, while it's not always the best solution for the nonlinearily distorted maps.
20:30.08kiozen_I always wonder why. I try to make my everyday's work as simple as possible. Thus I make myself easy to use inferfaces/GUIs. Using cryptic scripts all day long make you insane in the brain.
20:31.12goxboxliveymerejt: ok :-)
20:31.45ymerejtgoxboxlive, and I think that my current bugs on qtopia are probably relative to some new variable and that a configure and make should fix it
20:31.47cr2kiozen: it depends on the job. my conversion script does it much better than the monkeys with photoshop will ever do ;)
20:31.50ymerejtgoxboxlive, configure in progress
20:32.29goxboxliveymerejt: good
20:32.38cr2kiozen: and stitching _is_ normally done with photoshop.
20:33.23goxboxliveymerejt: i need to rebuild qtopia anyway. ljp gave me patch that might fix screenshot application and that is in the qt source
20:33.24cr2kiozen: i judge it after reading the ozi ML and other forums.
20:33.41kiozenyes, but most likely it's just setting some parameters and executing scripts. That can be automated with a nice HTML frontend. That is how I tame my GB of VDSL connection status data.
20:34.14ymerejtgoxboxlive, you mean the qt library source ?
20:34.22cr2kiozen: gui+script requires expertise in both, which is very seldom.
20:34.48kiozenbut obviously highly needed
20:35.21cr2kiozen: yes, because this job can benefit from both.
20:36.27goxboxliveymerejt: yes
20:37.41ymerejtgoxboxlive, so if it works (after your test), we will push it on the git repository
20:38.00goxboxliveymerejt: yes, do you have screnshot added to the source?
20:38.48ymerejtgoxboxlive, no, but we should add it at the same time
20:39.23goxboxliveyes,a slo simplefm if you dont have it. Tetrix also
20:40.24ymerejtwhy not
20:41.09ymerejtbut this week-end I want to work on the keyboard/button kernel and qtopia parts
20:42.37goxboxliveymerejt: good. Have you noticed that the caps lock isent working well
20:42.50ymerejtgoxboxlive, yes ;)
20:43.18goxboxliveand also that when you hit the select button (middle of pad) it gives to inputs
20:43.42ymerejtgoxboxlive, what do you mean I don't understand
20:44.01goxboxliveymerejt: do you knw wih button i am talking about?
20:44.35ymerejtyou mean when you are writing in notes application for exemple and press the select keys the application dead
20:44.37ymerejt?
20:44.54goxboxliveno, the middle one in the navigation pad
20:45.20ymerejtno about which part of my sentence ?
20:45.37goxboxlivewhen you hit it in the menus it actuallt do two things. One on hit, and another on hit-out
20:45.54goxboxlivelike a light switch
20:46.01goxboxliveon/off
20:46.41goxboxliveit should be only one handlingwhen hitting it, not one for pressing the button and another one for letting it back
20:47.31goxboxlivei still dont have the .config file
20:47.55ymerejtgoxboxlive, I still dont have news from diogene31
20:48.02goxboxliveok :-)
20:48.16ymerejtAnd now it's my diner pause
20:48.21ymerejt30-40 minutes
20:51.27goxboxliveok
20:53.50cr2kiozen: this is one more example of photoshoppers bastardizing the nice GK maps http://www.npemap.org.uk
20:55.11kiozendoesn't look too bad to me :)
20:55.29kiozenthose ordonance survey maps are quite nice
20:55.37kiozenbut a real rip off
20:56.00cr2kiozen: yes, but they really used photoshop for orthorectification on this site...
20:56.26kiozenfor prices :) http://www.satmap.com/ukstore/index.php?cPath=16_17&osCsid=f3a12c747ce34cba9bc89b4fc342bf63
20:56.33cr2and used affine transform to do it.
20:56.44kiozenpounds no euro!
20:56.47cr2kiozen: these maps are old and out of copyright.
20:57.18cr2yeah.
20:57.44kiozenthat unit would be still my dream, but with my own firmware
20:57.59cr2:)
20:58.44goxboxliveymerejt: i tested your latest image with the "old" kernel, and i have history working, and cant see tha anything is not working. I dont have the dialog box "No Network" either
20:58.52cr2hehe, the map screenshot looks familiar :)
21:13.59kiozencr2: btw did you try out the gps on the loox?
21:15.20cr2kiozen: no, i need to resolve the boot crashing first.
21:15.31cr2found 6 more gpios, btw :)
21:16.24kiozenI wonder how much they need for power up! But I meant if you tried it with wince to judge the quality of the receiver.
21:16.49cr2no, but i can try.
21:17.49BabelOcr2: how is wifi on loox ?
21:18.42cr2BabelO: it's ok, i run haret over it.
21:19.07cr2BabelO: and i don't see the wifi data going over sdio. which gives us a lot of hope.
21:19.12BabelOcr2: but under linux, any luck ? is it sdio ?
21:19.24BabelOok :)
21:19.30cr2yes, it has some sdio setup/init.
21:19.45cr2i guess sdio is just a replacement for the pcmcia interface.
21:20.09cr2BabelO: btw, it may be the same on artemis.
21:20.41BabelOcr2: ok i see it in arte.S from you ;)
21:20.50ymerejtgoxboxlive, cool have you made a configure ?
21:20.52cr2BabelO: but i don't know how to find the mmaped regs. it was the problem on BA too, if you remember.
21:21.12goxboxliveymerejt: configure for what?
21:21.15goxboxlive.config?
21:21.22ymerejtgoxboxlive, for qtopia
21:21.22cr2BabelO: i think it's the same on all other omap850 wifi phones.
21:21.24BabelOcr2: yes i remember
21:21.32goxboxliveymerejt: no, i just rebuilded with make
21:22.02BabelOcr2: i think i ve i2c working on artemis, i ll try to boot over nfs to test with tools
21:22.03ymerejtso it's strange
21:22.06goxboxlivebut stupid me had did a configure before i tested the screenshot app so i am doinag that too
21:22.08cr2BabelO: but i think the address area choice is not that big
21:22.22goxboxliveymerejt: i am about to upload some screenies now
21:22.31cr2BabelO: interesting. do you have some SD related cpld gpios ?
21:23.24BabelOcr2: that is what i m looking for in asm file
21:23.54BabelOcr2: Ti1250(SDIO interface)
21:24.14BabelOcr2: what is SDMC ? set SDIO: 0-WLAN ;1-SDMC
21:25.28cr2BabelO: the "normal" use for the SD is the SD card, but the wifi sdio config needs some switch to redirect the port.
21:25.36cr2BabelO: it's the same on n560
21:25.43cr2BabelO: aka loox
21:26.47goxboxlivefor thoose of you who likes screenies like me: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/screenies/new/
21:27.39BabelOcr2: ok, it is hard to me to understand diff between MMC and SD, on arte MMC  clock is 12Mhz and SD clock is 24 Mhz
21:28.19kiozengoxboxlive: I like the second last on e:)
21:28.37ymerejtgoxboxlive, how to access devtools ?
21:28.39goxboxlivekiozen: QLandkarte :-)
21:28.57kiozencr2: dont't we have a map for goxboxlive
21:30.09goxboxliveymerejt: add it to your projects.pro file
21:30.19goxboxliveadd the pathc to the devtools foolder
21:30.45ymerejtwhy don't you push changes like that ?
21:31.19cr2kiozen: your map is copyrighted, the map i've sent you is politically incorrect :)
21:31.53kiozenok what about osm tiles?
21:32.20cr2kiozen: it needs a stitch tool.
21:32.53cr2hmm. the easiest thing to do is to calculate the world file for the OSM tile.
21:32.54kiozenah yes they have 256x256 tiles don't they
21:33.30cr2i know how to do it for the not so evil company, and for yahoo. but it's PI too.
21:33.44kiozenbut if these tiles are perfectly alligned and referenced stitching should be easy
21:34.07cr2the algorithm is the same afair.
21:34.18cr2because they are interchangable.
21:35.08goxboxliveymerejt: becsue i dont have my own banch, and i dont know how to push. But i can mail you my device fiolder
21:35.20cr2kiozen: where is the OSM wiki page describing the OSM tile naming scheme ?
21:35.44kiozendon't know :) no link at hand
21:36.32kiozenhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Slippy_map_tilenames
21:36.46kiozenforgot about my internal blog :)
21:36.56cr2kiozen: it's mercator, but there is something peculiar.
21:36.57cr2ok.
21:37.10ymerejtgoxboxlive, ok maybe pasbin a git diff
21:37.17ymerejts/ok/or
21:37.45goxboxliveymerejt: it will be to huge because of the Makefiles and the binaries i have
21:38.04kiozenshould be defining the area, downloading tiles, save to tiled gtiff
21:38.05ymerejtgoxboxlive, so send me it by email
21:38.12kiozenadding geo tags
21:38.14goxboxlive:-)
21:39.27cr2kiozen: the m/pix for a zoom level is known. we only need the tile corner coordinates.
21:40.20kiozenyes and as the tiles are perfectly aligned it shouldn't be more work than my mpr2gtiff converter
21:41.33cr2the converter for these 3 numbers is needed   http://tile.openstreetmap.org/8/127/85.png
21:42.19cr2the first number is the zoom level afair.
21:42.52kiozencould be some dialog in GT to define the area, and voila - you get your map.
21:42.55cr2hm. no.
21:43.10kiozenno?
21:43.29cr2yes, afaik it's already done in maemo mapper
21:43.41cr2no -> the first number is not the zoom level.
21:43.58cr2where is the maemo mapper source ?
21:44.18cr2huh. wiki says Filename(url) format is /zoom/x/y.png
21:44.34cr2Each zoom level is a directory, each column is a subdirectory, and each tile in that column is a file
21:44.52cr2so the stitching is easy.
21:45.05cr2but we still need 1 reference point.
21:45.48cr2the projection is spherical mercator : http://www.spatialreference.org/ref/user/6/
21:46.58kiozenimoh the wiki page tells how to do it
21:47.18goxboxlivediogene31: i still dont have the changes. Whats the status
21:47.20goxboxlive?
21:48.21diogene31goxboxlive: I think ymerejt push didnd't work, my server has no object updated. I'm looking with him ...
21:48.33goxboxliveok good
21:49.06goxboxliveymerejt: what hould i notice has changed in your last qtopia changes? Or wouldnt i see it with the "old" kernel source?
21:51.16ymerejtsome improvement on outgoing calls
21:51.30ymerejtyet even this without my last kernel should not be visible
21:51.43goxboxliveymerejt: ok
21:56.37cr2kiozen: if you can sort it out fast...
21:56.58goxboxliveymerejt: do you know that it exist a kernel for htcuniversal in version 2.6.23 ?
21:57.14ymerejtI have heard about it
21:57.30ymerejtgoxboxlive, is it works fine ?
21:58.12kiozencr2: let's see, it's just a matter of free time - as told my sone wants to solder some cirquit with a micro chip. Never let children listen to modern stuff like "Ritter Rost"
21:59.21cr2:)
22:01.08kiozennot funny - he is just 5! But they have quite a nice electronic experimental kit in kindergarten (!) and now he wants to build someting noisy and blinking himself
22:01.14ymerejtgoxboxlive, you should be able to fetch
22:01.37goxboxliveymerejt: shoudl i fetch or pull?
22:01.46goxboxlivei thought pull where the right to do
22:02.08ymerejtthen do pull
22:02.18goxboxliveymerejt: 2.6.23 doesnt work good, there where a lot of stuff that where missing
22:03.27ymerejtgoxboxlive, maybe with diogene we will try the 2.6.24 a day
22:03.28goxboxliveyes now it works
22:03.31diogene31goxboxlive: git pull origin htcuniversal I think.
22:03.33goxboxlive:-)
22:03.49ymerejtok
22:03.54ymerejtso good luck
22:04.12goxboxliveymerejt: just a question , why modules, and not in to the kernel zImage?
22:04.50ymerejtbecause there is not really differences for users and it's pretty easiest for developper
22:05.05cr2kiozen: ok.
22:05.42goxboxliveymerejt: ok, so i cant just make it as usuall an add  them in to the kernel zImage instead?
22:06.04goxboxliveI thinksit's easier to just change the zImage than look formodules
22:06.41ymerejtgoxboxlive, do what you want ;)
22:07.08goxboxlivehmm cant have phone and bluetooth in the zImage anymore
22:09.37ymerejtah
22:09.49ymerejtI look at it ....
22:10.16goxboxlivethx
22:11.57ymerejtgoxboxlive, set the POWER_DRIVER as static
22:12.40goxboxliveymerejt: first i try to build it with your .config
22:12.45goxboxliveit gives me this
22:12.48goxboxlive<PROTECTED>
22:12.48goxboxlivemake[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds', needed by `__build'.  Stop.
22:12.48goxboxlivemake: *** [arch/arm/kernel] Error 2
22:12.48goxboxlivejrs@centrino:~/git/kernel_pda$
22:13.16ymerejtI look at it
22:13.20goxboxlive:-)
22:13.57ImCoKeMaNhey guys, any of you hear of the new titan rom that allows gps it's a leaked rom so it has MFG bootloader and might even be the linux phone core on it
22:14.38ImCoKeMaNi know i'm generally the only titan guy here, but this rom might have something.... it's new though so i havne't had much time to look
22:17.51cr2ImCoKeMaN: there was no gps before ?
22:17.56ImCoKeMaNnope!
22:18.07cr2but on kaiser it's there.
22:18.11ImCoKeMaNit was mentioned, but it works now, i haven't loaded it yet
22:18.19ImCoKeMaNyeah titan never did though
22:18.44ImCoKeMaNthat was one thing that made me jealous of the tilts
22:18.53cr2ImCoKeMaN: ok. can you confirm that the SD is traceable on titan ? and the irq too .
22:20.04ImCoKeMaNi don't think i've traced them
22:20.07cr2this is what is seen on kaiser http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ
22:20.49ImCoKeMaNi'd probly need a walk through when i have more time
22:21.36cr2ok.
22:22.33ImCoKeMaNi think later this weeekend and next week i'll have a bit though
22:25.01ImCoKeMaNnot sure if the files would interest you or not but i could link the dl if ya want
22:25.11kiozengood night
22:37.32ymerejtgoxboxlive, some files are missing in your git repostory ... work in progress with diogene
22:37.47goxboxlive:-)
22:43.23ymerejtgoxboxlive, two files missing in fact ;)
22:44.15goxboxlive:-) are the pushed yet?
22:44.33ymerejtnop discussion about it in progress ;)
22:44.35goxboxliveymerejt: i am about together with ljp to solve landscape mode now
22:45.21ymerejton the qtopia channel ?
22:46.00goxboxliveIf you look at my configure fle you will see that i have added dynamic rotation, and now it works better, but still the calibration take the input like it was in portrait mode
22:46.43ymerejtgoxboxlive, very interresting ! ;)
22:46.50goxboxlive:-)
22:47.31goxboxliveymerejt: the dialer isent ready for landscpape yet though
22:47.43ymerejtnot a problem for me ;)
22:49.58ymerejtgoxboxlive, kernel build in progress to be sure that only two files were missing
22:52.12goxboxliveymerejt: me neither, becuase you can dial with the keyboard
22:52.50ymerejtmoreover when I use my uni as phone I always use it on portrait mode
22:54.50goxboxliveymerejt: yes, but for now you have to add change Rot0 -> Rot270 in your startup script.
22:55.15ymerejtgoxboxlive, shouldn't it dynamic ?
22:55.43goxboxliveYes it should be, but, we have to make the sources for it i guess
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22:56.25goxboxliveActually, screenshot isent working in portrait mode
22:59.48goxboxliveymerejt: i guess you have to add something to the device folder. The name of the roattaion stuff is transformed
23:02.40ymerejtgoxboxlive, I just pushed the missing files
23:02.46goxboxlivethx
23:02.56ymerejtgoxboxlive, you should be able to pull and build now
23:05.01goxboxliveymerejt: what do you mean by power as static
23:06.03ymerejtgoxboxlive, power_driver is set as module ... you need to change it to static if you want to staticaly build bt and phone because they both depend on the power_driver (which is a module of mine) ;)
23:07.04goxboxlivethx
23:07.58goxboxliveok, i might be disconneted or something now. My laptop hate compiling linux kernel. It gets so slow :-(
23:08.14ymerejtgoxboxlive, ok
23:08.27ymerejtyou should use nice
23:08.37ymerejt'nice' command I mean
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23:08.55goxboxliveymerejt: i still get the same error
23:09.08goxboxliveit says after pull, allready up to date
23:09.38ymerejtwhat is the last commit hash you have
23:09.44ymerejt?
23:10.17goxboxlivefb3c43744a47f4925ea9af82869114161027575d                branch 'htcuniversal' of http://82.243.122.54/git/kernel_pd
23:10.45ymerejtyou're not up2date
23:10.48ymerejttry fetch
23:11.59goxboxliveAlready up-to-date.
23:12.12goxboxliveafter fetch then pull
23:17.59ymerejtgoxboxlive, I look at it
23:18.08goxboxlivegood
23:19.02goxboxlivemaybe my Qtopia image is finihed building on my other computer before i am done compiling the linux kernel :-)
23:19.40ymerejtwith the qtopia configure and complete rebuild all is working fine now ;)
23:20.01ymerejtgoxboxlive,I don't have anymore the bugs I talked you
23:24.53paulproteusymerejt, yay
23:25.10ymerejthi paulproteus,
23:26.04goxboxliveymerejt: Qtopia is finished build now, a whole new build :-)
23:27.02goxboxlivei got the latest changes now
23:28.38goxboxliveymerejt: it got true the bug
23:28.49ymerejt??????
23:29.50goxboxliveymerejt: (my english )
23:30.12goxboxliveit has build the bug part now :-/
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23:30.35goxboxliveit didnt fail where it failed at last attempt
23:30.54cr2i'm completely lost about the latest kernel for the universal
23:31.12goxboxlivecr2: if you make me a cam driver i tell you where we are now :-D
23:31.14cr2there are 3-4 already ?
23:31.38goxboxlivecr2: there are still only one
23:31.58cr2goxboxlive: i may try to merge the driver that pH5 has mentioned to the hh.org CVS
23:31.59goxboxliveit's the hh-org one,But ymerejt hasent write access and
23:32.08goxboxlivecr2: good
23:32.15cr2goxboxlive: but it's only a half of the jobs.
23:32.25goxboxliveright
23:32.28cr2it's pxa-camera only, i.e. pxa27x-cif
23:32.49goxboxliveBut then other might work firther on it. Dont you miss some kernel work? You where so active a yesr ago or so
23:32.50cr2you also need the chip i2c driver
23:33.15cr2i need to finish the n560
23:33.23goxboxlivecr2: kernel?
23:33.57cr2and we need some advanced user-oriented apps too. even with a perfect kernel.
23:34.05cr2yes, the n560 kernel
23:34.10goxboxliveok
23:34.19goxboxlivewhat is user oriented apps?
23:34.39cr2M and roadmap.
23:35.18cr2and we are very close.
23:35.51cr2if tsdogs would have done the poi labels...
23:39.45goxboxlivecr2: yes but i think, before me make the userapp working we should have a working kernel. And at this point we are allmost there. I dont think users will use linux on universal before all the hardware works on it.
23:40.16goxboxliveI have used it as my main phone now for a couple of weeks, and i really miss headset or BT headset
23:43.41goxboxliveBecause i feel kind of dumb when i am talking, it's a huge device you put in to your ear :-)
23:43.49cr2:D
23:44.17cr2we need to find somebody who knows c programming to write the bts compiler.
23:44.53cr2i will add the remaining switches to the ak4641 driver.
23:45.06berntand using 128 mb of memory ;-)
23:45.22ymerejtgoxboxlive, my push has correctly worked
23:45.36ymerejtso try pull/ fetch or do the clone and  checkout
23:46.10goxboxliveymerejt: it's building now
23:46.11cr2bernt: does it boot with the set RAMSIZE ?
23:46.45berntno, after some lines it stopped
23:46.54goxboxlivebernt: do you have a universal with 128MB ram?
23:47.13berntI have tried 96 and 128
23:47.34goxboxlivebernt: and you are uing wm6 right?
23:48.20cr2bernt: you should use the right RAMSIZE and mem=128M
23:48.43goxboxliveno thats not the problem, the problem is wm6
23:49.10cr2goxboxlive: stopped != rebooted ?
23:49.23berntI have looked, this device seems to have only 64 mb but 128 mb flash ...
23:49.25goxboxliveif he had a wm5 it might worked (though maybe wm5 version should have support for 128MB ram)
23:49.32cr2goxboxlive: an ymerejt had a watchdog hack for wm6.
23:50.01berntI thought that the mda pro has allways 128 mb ...
23:50.05goxboxliveahhh
23:50.07goxboxliveno
23:50.12goxboxliveram=64
23:50.21goxboxliveflash=128
23:50.24cr2bernt: ok, if you didn't solder it yourself, then you have 64MB RAM
23:50.52berntand it has windows mobile 5.0
23:50.59ymerejtgoxboxlive, cr2, the watchdog hack is available on the git repository kernel
23:51.13goxboxliveymerejt: http://pastebin.no/3192
23:52.24ymerejtgoxboxlive, remove the __exit in buttons and leds
23:53.49goxboxliveymerejt: both sections?
23:53.51berntcr2: my ba has 128 mb ram and only 32mb flash. not so funny ;-(
23:54.04ymerejtgoxboxlive, both files
23:55.20goxboxliveymerejt: yes but there are two sections with __exit in the power file
23:55.30goxboxlivebuttons i mean
23:55.46cr2bernt: ba has 96mb flash
23:55.54cr232+64
23:56.01ymerejtgoxboxlive, the first one
23:56.24bernt;-) ok I forgot this storage disk.
23:58.25goxboxliveok
23:59.55goxboxliveok, compiled

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