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07:24.30 | kiozen | morning |
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08:55.22 | BabelO | hi |
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10:03.26 | cr2 | hi |
10:03.55 | CoW_ | hi |
10:04.02 | CoW_ | brb |
10:05.21 | BabelO | hi CoW_, cr2 |
10:05.48 | CoW_ | hi Babel0 |
10:11.20 | CD_Fighte1 | hi |
10:11.54 | CD_Fighte1 | is the keyboard working on hermes? |
10:23.24 | BabelO | CD_Fighter: i think yes, Kevin2 has done keyboard driver, but his driver is on linuxtogo.org git |
10:24.32 | CD_Fighter | i have used the git |
10:27.03 | LunohoD_ | re |
10:27.16 | CD_Fighter | but i don't know which kernelsettings.... in hermes_defconfig the keyboard didn't work |
10:29.00 | BabelO | kiozen: lol very funny dialog box on qlandkarte |
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11:16.42 | aLeSD_ | hi all |
11:19.09 | kiozen | BabelO: which dialog? |
12:25.16 | cr2 | kiozen: qgis warps the geotiff in realtime now, if it has the GCP tags available. |
13:33.01 | kiozen | cr2: warp == reproject ? |
13:34.23 | cr2 | yes. |
13:34.31 | cr2 | gdalwarp in "realtime" |
13:35.23 | cr2 | we don't need it, but i'm still searching for an efficient tool for adding GCPs. |
13:35.27 | kiozen | cr2: even with big files? |
13:35.51 | cr2 | yes, i've checked it on one 4000x4000 file. |
13:37.06 | cr2 | i have some resampling problems with 3 tiles of 200, which i don't fully understand. |
13:41.07 | kiozen | cr2: can qgis stitch the files together after rerojecting them? |
13:44.52 | cr2 | gdalwarp can do it |
13:45.35 | cr2 | if the tiles have different palettes, i guess it will create 3band rgb. |
13:46.50 | cr2 | which is not nice. i don't know a commandline tool to resample/reduce the colors. imagemagick ? |
13:53.36 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.pc-erfahrung.de/linux/linux-imagemagick.html |
13:54.24 | cr2 | hmm. but it will hurt the geotiff tags ? how do we restore them ? |
13:56.30 | cr2 | http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage |
13:57.57 | cr2 | http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/quantize/#colors |
13:58.50 | kiozen | cr2 gtif -> tiff -> image magic -> tiff -> gtiff |
13:59.46 | kiozen | cr2: I could ask in the gdal news group |
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13:59.59 | kiozen | cr2: we can't be first doing this |
14:00.08 | cr2 | yes. |
14:00.41 | cr2 | are you going to use gdaltindex shapefile ? |
14:01.13 | cr2 | i think it's more efficient in many cases than creating a full rectangular geotiff. |
14:02.36 | kiozen | never thought about it, isn't the base always rectangular? |
14:03.05 | kiozen | unles you reproject the file it should |
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14:03.37 | drengur | evenin |
14:04.34 | drengur | so.... linux on a HTC.... |
14:04.44 | drengur | is it viable yet? |
14:05.25 | cr2 | drengur: it depends on the device |
14:06.24 | cr2 | kiozen: the geotiff is always rectangular, but it you have may disjoint tiles it's better to use an index. |
14:06.38 | drengur | hrm |
14:07.35 | cr2 | kiozen: on the other hand the compressed tile filled with transparency does not take much space ? |
14:07.56 | goxboxlive | drengur: you dont need the model number, just the name of the device. |
14:08.12 | kiozen | cr2: that is right. and if you have disjoint files you have several maps |
14:08.19 | drengur | HTC P3600i |
14:08.43 | drengur | that may be so, however none of this is immediately obvious |
14:08.54 | kiozen | M version is planned to auto select the right map on current location |
14:09.01 | cr2 | kiozen: my test set has about 200 tiles, but they have very strange 'filling' pattern. |
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14:09.10 | kiozen | ? |
14:10.04 | cr2 | kiozen: they cover 300x400 km rectangle, but not all maps are available. |
14:10.35 | kiozen | cr2: ok, btw, is there a way to exchange the files. that would help me to understand |
14:10.58 | cr2 | kiozen: look what gdaltindex does. you don't need it for TOP*, that's for sure. |
14:11.13 | cr2 | ok, i'll have a look how big is the full archive. |
14:11.49 | kiozen | cr2: anyway one big file is easier to handle than 200 single ones |
14:12.15 | drengur | cr2: is it worth my time looking at this? is there any help I can offer? |
14:12.44 | cr2 | kiozen: 100MB+280MB of raw data. |
14:13.35 | kiozen | too big for mail, ok for ftp, wait ... |
14:13.39 | cr2 | kiozen: there are GCPs for them, so the conversion is automated. |
14:14.44 | cr2 | drengur: Samsung 500 MHz processor ? |
14:14.51 | cr2 | drengur: is it s3c2442 ? |
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14:16.18 | drengur | cr2 that's the one |
14:16.38 | drengur | sorry, it's been a good 3 years since I've been on here |
14:16.46 | drengur | I've forgotten it all |
14:16.48 | drengur | :-S |
14:16.49 | cr2 | drengur: can you run haret on it ? |
14:17.05 | drengur | it's an SC32442B |
14:17.26 | drengur | I haven't tried anything as of yet |
14:17.53 | cr2 | ok. let's hope that it uses s3c2442 SD, then your changes to run linux are good. |
14:18.16 | drengur | but in the last few months we've merged from .NET to Java I've had the freedom to switch OS's |
14:18.34 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll prepare the data and send you an e-mail. |
14:18.42 | drengur | and some of this fucking MS shit is really driving me nuts |
14:19.16 | cr2 | drengur: you need to get familiar with running haret, and tracing the gpios. |
14:19.22 | drengur | why do they need to tell me the battery is low every 10 secs.... and disrupt what I'm doing |
14:19.53 | cr2 | drengur: we also need to find out if they use some cpld there. |
14:20.55 | drengur | what sort of basic functionality does it have? |
14:21.04 | kiozen | cr2: wait, I have setup an ftp server... |
14:21.32 | drengur | or are we talking real experimental here.... |
14:21.33 | cr2 | drengur: haret ? read the docs. |
14:21.50 | cr2 | hm. real experimental for now. |
14:21.51 | drengur | looking now |
14:23.45 | drengur | cool cool, if it is just running over the current firmware that's all good |
14:23.56 | drengur | long as I can make and recieve calls :P |
14:24.19 | kiozen | cr2: you have got mail |
14:24.42 | cr2 | kiozen: not yet. |
14:25.42 | cr2 | kiozen: ok. |
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14:38.55 | kiozen | cr2: lol http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,528797,00.html "Das iPhone hat es schon" |
14:42.33 | cr2 | kiozen: lol. they all hope for $$$ :) |
14:43.06 | cr2 | 80k/s |
14:44.22 | kiozen | cr2: I would like to see one of those iPhone dandies right in the middle of the woods. (Or in N48° 20.984 E011° 57.325 ) |
14:44.49 | cr2 | hehe. no umts there ? :) |
14:45.25 | kiozen | what?! trees exist in real ! |
14:45.32 | cr2 | :) |
14:45.56 | cr2 | the <cellid> gpx tag may be helpful for logging. |
14:46.20 | cr2 | kiozen: here is the clue: Um das tun zu können, müssen die Hersteller allerdings Lizenzen für die Skyhooks-Software kaufen. |
14:47.53 | kiozen | the best is in the beginning: because gps receivers use too much current you have to fireup WIFI |
14:48.44 | cr2 | it's not so dumb as it sounds. |
14:49.09 | kiozen | only as long as you disable the transmitter |
14:49.16 | cr2 | you only need to pick the broadcast. |
14:49.18 | cr2 | yes. |
14:49.34 | cr2 | well, you do the same with gps after all. |
14:49.35 | kiozen | but without that you can't pull the maps from google |
14:49.59 | kiozen | or any other pay per use server |
14:50.00 | cr2 | lol. unless you do evil :) |
14:50.36 | kiozen | I never do evel. I am small, blond and unguilty |
14:51.00 | cr2 | btw, that's why downloading and stitching OSM tiles is such a big deal. |
14:51.44 | cr2 | 2GB sd card vs. how much minutes of umts fees ? |
14:52.16 | kiozen | well right in the woods you will grow roots :) |
14:53.19 | cr2 | kiozen: and near the country border you can only hope not to enable roaming :) |
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14:53.52 | kiozen | well, if you can afford overpriced phones.. |
14:54.42 | cr2 | yeah, iphone owners will pay for 'wps' anyway. |
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15:32.20 | cr2 | kiozen: that will be an interesting real-life test. these pictures are not copyrighted, which is a good thing too. |
15:33.33 | kiozen | cr2: yes, lets see, do have a qmap file, too? |
15:34.06 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll upload the conversion script, and qmap too. |
15:34.16 | kiozen | ack |
15:34.26 | cr2 | these maps are very good, but a bit outdated. |
15:35.00 | cr2 | overlaying OSM was an interesting experience for me :) |
15:35.37 | cr2 | but we should put a legal note for somebody who is really going to use them. |
15:36.29 | BabelO | cr2: do you have something to extract OSM to qlandkarteM or roadmap format ? |
15:37.01 | cr2 | it's illegal to posess some information from these maps in certain countries. |
15:37.01 | kiozen | cr2: let's put a legal notice in every 256x256 tile :) |
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15:37.54 | cr2 | BabelO: roadmap and M are different. |
15:38.05 | dcordes | hi all |
15:38.44 | cr2 | BabelO: you can use wget to fetch the prerendered OSM tiles, but we need some handy tool for stitching them into a geotiff used by M |
15:38.47 | cr2 | hi dcordes |
15:39.11 | cr2 | BabelO: for roadmap i usually use a script to convert .mp into .rdm |
15:39.35 | dcordes | cr2, good to see you. is there any news? |
15:39.42 | cr2 | no. |
15:43.50 | dcordes | it's a very deflating situation - just sitting and waiting |
15:49.53 | dcordes | swetland, will you guys ever release your SD driver for msm7200a? |
15:52.06 | dcordes | hat von euch mal jemand einen quadrocopter gebaut? |
15:52.23 | dcordes | sry |
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16:05.20 | kiozen | cr2: you are done? |
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16:10.23 | cr2 | kiozen: sending the GCPs and the script |
16:11.59 | cr2 | kiozen: ready. |
16:13.06 | cr2 | hmm. gdalwarp is not very bright. it picked the first (or the last) palette for all tiles. |
16:14.09 | kiozen | cr2: I can close the server ? |
16:15.32 | kiozen | cr2: can't find qmap |
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16:22.02 | cr2 | kiozen: sorry, i'll upload qmap now. |
16:22.17 | kiozen | ok |
16:22.42 | cr2 | kiozen: but it's easy to to recreate it by doing 'ls *.tif' :) |
16:23.14 | kiozen | hate shell scripting, was never good in it :) |
16:25.22 | cr2 | done. |
16:26.32 | cr2 | you need to unzip the gcps, maybe adjust the dir= path in the convert script. |
16:27.01 | cr2 | 14m/pix is an empirical value. |
16:28.08 | kiozen | ok, I will have a look at it in the evening, have to collect my son, soon |
16:29.06 | cr2 | ok. |
16:40.57 | kiozen | bbl |
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17:12.45 | cr2 | hi goxboxlive |
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17:50.07 | ymerejt | all: hi |
17:51.27 | cr2 | hi ymerejt |
18:01.26 | goxboxlive | ola |
18:01.32 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: any good news? |
18:01.47 | goxboxlive | have you solved the bugs? |
18:02.12 | goxboxlive | And cr2? What about the cam drivers? You make i build :-) |
18:05.32 | ymerejt | I'm trying to upload my last kernel version on the diogene31 git repository ... ;) |
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18:11.48 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: cool, can that be commited to the hh.org source or will it break other devices? |
18:12.26 | ymerejt | break, break I don't think so but some new features need to be discuss I guess |
18:12.57 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: ok, what is the changes? |
18:16.30 | ymerejt | a big refactoring on htcuniversal part |
18:16.37 | ymerejt | a new tool to manage power on devices |
18:17.00 | ymerejt | disable some things during the suspend |
18:19.47 | goxboxlive | ok |
18:21.37 | ymerejt | merge with my last qtopia change, the airplane mode works and the modem is correctly managed |
18:27.01 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: ok, so should do a git pullnow then? |
18:27.14 | ymerejt | of qtopia ? |
18:27.42 | goxboxlive | yes |
18:27.50 | goxboxlive | i havent done that for weeks now |
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18:27.58 | ymerejt | if you don't need the call history, you can |
18:28.42 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: ok, i need call history :-) |
18:29.08 | goxboxlive | why is that broken? |
18:29.52 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I don't know it came with the last qtopia snapshot ... |
18:30.18 | goxboxlive | ok, so it might work again now then. It has been an update again today |
18:30.58 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: should i use your new kernel source now, or should i wait with that too? |
18:31.32 | ymerejt | I'm currently doing many git add/commit/push cycles |
18:31.40 | ymerejt | wait a moment |
18:34.47 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I just merged with the really last qtopia_snapshot ... I'm building it |
18:35.58 | goxboxlive | ok good |
18:36.35 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, and now the airplane mode really works fine ;) |
18:36.44 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, very useful during the night |
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19:08.25 | cr2 | ymerejt: can you create a working image ? |
19:08.53 | ymerejt | of what ? |
19:09.46 | ymerejt | kernel ? |
19:16.29 | ymerejt | cr2, goxboxlive, my last kernel is the htcuniversal branch on http://82.243.122.54/git/kernel_pda.git |
19:17.32 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, and my last qtopia version is already online |
19:18.04 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, you have to change the qpe.sh line : export QWS_KEYBOARD="htckbdhandler:/dev/input/event0 htckbdhandler:/dev/input/event1 htckbdhandler:/dev/inpu |
19:18.04 | ymerejt | t/event2" |
19:18.21 | ymerejt | and be careful, now all is module ! |
19:18.33 | ymerejt | so do the correct change on modutils |
19:20.38 | diogene31 | MichouX|NA: If you're here but don't see my messages on the other topic, ring a bell please. |
19:22.51 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, and use the root .config file instead of the defconfigs (I know it's ugly but ... :^)) |
19:25.02 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
19:25.38 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
19:25.48 | kiozen | hi BabelO |
19:26.22 | BabelO | kiozen: on windows i made some test this afternoon at office, when i set COM3: to devices then it say can't open port, but no dbg trace, and if i say COM3 it hang |
19:27.14 | kiozen | BabelO: hm, don't know if you can do an open() on a port in Win32 |
19:27.19 | kiozen | I doubt it |
19:27.34 | kiozen | what about the NMEATcp ? |
19:29.38 | BabelO | kiozen: i try also nmeatcp but it found nothing |
19:29.39 | kiozen | cr2: trying to understand your shell script. too much awk for my taste! |
19:30.03 | kiozen | BabelO: that is frustrating |
19:30.19 | kiozen | best you ask Juan, maybe he can help |
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19:31.04 | BabelO | kiozen: ok |
19:38.40 | cr2 | kiozen: the GCPs are in +proj=latlong, so they are first reprojected with 'cs2cs' into marcator. |
19:39.33 | kiozen | cr2: I was just wondering how to iterate over all files, but I found out myself :) |
19:39.42 | cr2 | the *.gcp file contains the GCPs as it's expected by gdal_translate |
19:40.03 | cr2 | for file in * ; do xxx ; done |
19:40.11 | kiozen | you love mercator, don't you |
19:40.41 | cr2 | for the global dataset it's the most simple thing :) |
19:41.26 | kiozen | until you want to know distances... |
19:41.33 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: ok, i'll try |
19:41.37 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: thx |
19:41.50 | cr2 | kiozen: i find transverse mercator confusing. don't remember why gauss and the military like it ;) |
19:42.18 | kiozen | what about Eckert II :) |
19:43.19 | cr2 | it's not as easy as log(tan(x)) to convert. |
19:44.36 | kiozen | ok, got all tiles referenced |
19:44.49 | kiozen | did you ever test how accurate it is? |
19:45.28 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: now, how do i check out the new kernel source? |
19:45.34 | cr2 | loaded it in qgis and overlaid the OSM vector. it's very accurate. |
19:46.06 | cr2 | kiozen: OSM for that area can't even be compared with the shit google provides ;) |
19:46.54 | kiozen | lol, there is no market value for google |
19:47.12 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, git clone http://82.243.122.54/git/kernel_pda.git |
19:47.20 | goxboxlive | done that |
19:47.26 | goxboxlive | but hat is the branch |
19:47.34 | goxboxlive | origin/htcuniversal? |
19:47.37 | cr2 | kiozen: lol, the land and houses there cost more than in Bavaria :) |
19:47.55 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, git branch --track htcuniversal origin/htcuniversal |
19:48.11 | ymerejt | and checkout htcuniversal of course |
19:48.17 | kiozen | thats why people can't spent money for stuff google want to advertise :) |
19:48.18 | goxboxlive | right thx |
19:48.37 | goxboxlive | so the call history worked too right |
19:48.44 | cr2 | kiozen: lol |
19:48.55 | goxboxlive | What about dynamic rotation, was it in the source from Trolltech? |
19:49.05 | goxboxlive | or isent it added yet |
19:49.45 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I didn't seen it in the last sources |
19:49.56 | goxboxlive | ok, then it isent added yet |
19:53.52 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: what should export QWS_KEYBOARD be changed to? Should i just remove the line? |
19:54.18 | ymerejt | to the value I printed above |
19:54.30 | ymerejt | if nothing has changed it's ok |
19:55.05 | kiozen | cr2: I wonder why every tile has such a different color table, looks like they are from different sources |
19:55.44 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: so the TS is now event3 |
19:56.04 | goxboxlive | doesnt matter, it also Touchscreen0 |
19:56.06 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, but the touchscreen0 link is good |
19:56.08 | ymerejt | ;) |
19:56.10 | goxboxlive | :-) |
19:59.07 | goxboxlive | It really takes a while to clone the git tree |
20:02.51 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Sorry ... |
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20:04.03 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, it's from different years and from different sources |
20:05.17 | kiozen | Ah, thus the missmatch at the tile borders is tectonic movement :P |
20:05.38 | d-harry | hi |
20:06.31 | goxboxlive | diogene31: why sorry? |
20:06.51 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: It's my server you're downloading from. |
20:07.17 | goxboxlive | diogene31: yes i know, but i am thankfull for that :-) |
20:08.48 | cr2 | kiozen: i think they can be recalibrated to fix this problem, but one needs some comfortable gui for managing GCPs :) |
20:09.04 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: :) |
20:09.38 | cr2 | kiozen: where one can move the GCPs by drag-and-drop. |
20:10.28 | kiozen | let's see either qgis or GT |
20:12.43 | cr2 | qgis is more "professional" tool, but we can make GT more user-friendly. the calibration tool in ozi is not bad, but IMHO we can do better. |
20:13.50 | cr2 | i think that moving GCPs by clicking is a must, but both tools do not support it. |
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20:16.08 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i dont understand this. The root .config isent a htcuniversal config. It misses a lot, in example "htcuniversal" :-) |
20:16.16 | goxboxlive | did you forget to add it? |
20:17.11 | ymerejt | what is the last commit hash ? |
20:17.59 | goxboxlive | jrs@centrino:~/git/kernel_pda$ cat .git/ORIG_HEAD |
20:17.59 | goxboxlive | 8a0dc2bd856f77e38466faab3a73676ad230532c |
20:18.02 | kiozen_ | grr, I hate my wifi... let's see I have to get more into this map calibration business to understand what a good GUI has to offer. |
20:19.06 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, ok it's normal |
20:19.34 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: ? |
20:19.45 | ymerejt | push problem I think |
20:19.48 | goxboxlive | so should i just run make then? |
20:19.51 | goxboxlive | ok |
20:19.52 | ymerejt | no |
20:19.55 | goxboxlive | ok |
20:21.54 | ymerejt | goxboxlive,....... working on it ......... |
20:22.03 | goxboxlive | :-) |
20:22.07 | ymerejt | chmod +x .git/hooks/post-update |
20:22.10 | ymerejt | and try to fetch |
20:22.42 | ymerejt | and run this damn post-update |
20:24.21 | goxboxlive | nope didnt help |
20:25.55 | cr2 | kiozen_: the main problem for free software in this area is that people who know GIS are very bad in doing GUI, and vice versa ;) we have a good chance to change it. |
20:28.51 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: cant you just pastebin the .config |
20:29.25 | ymerejt | nop because in fact you have the base branche and none of my changes |
20:29.34 | ymerejt | diogene31 is currently checking why |
20:30.08 | cr2 | kiozen_: and people doing calibration often have no clue about the projections, so they prefer lat/long, while it's not always the best solution for the nonlinearily distorted maps. |
20:30.08 | kiozen_ | I always wonder why. I try to make my everyday's work as simple as possible. Thus I make myself easy to use inferfaces/GUIs. Using cryptic scripts all day long make you insane in the brain. |
20:31.12 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: ok :-) |
20:31.45 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, and I think that my current bugs on qtopia are probably relative to some new variable and that a configure and make should fix it |
20:31.47 | cr2 | kiozen: it depends on the job. my conversion script does it much better than the monkeys with photoshop will ever do ;) |
20:31.50 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, configure in progress |
20:32.29 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: good |
20:32.38 | cr2 | kiozen: and stitching _is_ normally done with photoshop. |
20:33.23 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i need to rebuild qtopia anyway. ljp gave me patch that might fix screenshot application and that is in the qt source |
20:33.24 | cr2 | kiozen: i judge it after reading the ozi ML and other forums. |
20:33.41 | kiozen | yes, but most likely it's just setting some parameters and executing scripts. That can be automated with a nice HTML frontend. That is how I tame my GB of VDSL connection status data. |
20:34.14 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, you mean the qt library source ? |
20:34.22 | cr2 | kiozen: gui+script requires expertise in both, which is very seldom. |
20:34.48 | kiozen | but obviously highly needed |
20:35.21 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, because this job can benefit from both. |
20:36.27 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: yes |
20:37.41 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, so if it works (after your test), we will push it on the git repository |
20:38.00 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: yes, do you have screnshot added to the source? |
20:38.48 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, no, but we should add it at the same time |
20:39.23 | goxboxlive | yes,a slo simplefm if you dont have it. Tetrix also |
20:40.24 | ymerejt | why not |
20:41.09 | ymerejt | but this week-end I want to work on the keyboard/button kernel and qtopia parts |
20:42.37 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: good. Have you noticed that the caps lock isent working well |
20:42.50 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, yes ;) |
20:43.18 | goxboxlive | and also that when you hit the select button (middle of pad) it gives to inputs |
20:43.42 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, what do you mean I don't understand |
20:44.01 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: do you knw wih button i am talking about? |
20:44.35 | ymerejt | you mean when you are writing in notes application for exemple and press the select keys the application dead |
20:44.37 | ymerejt | ? |
20:44.54 | goxboxlive | no, the middle one in the navigation pad |
20:45.20 | ymerejt | no about which part of my sentence ? |
20:45.37 | goxboxlive | when you hit it in the menus it actuallt do two things. One on hit, and another on hit-out |
20:45.54 | goxboxlive | like a light switch |
20:46.01 | goxboxlive | on/off |
20:46.41 | goxboxlive | it should be only one handlingwhen hitting it, not one for pressing the button and another one for letting it back |
20:47.31 | goxboxlive | i still dont have the .config file |
20:47.55 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I still dont have news from diogene31 |
20:48.02 | goxboxlive | ok :-) |
20:48.16 | ymerejt | And now it's my diner pause |
20:48.21 | ymerejt | 30-40 minutes |
20:51.27 | goxboxlive | ok |
20:53.50 | cr2 | kiozen: this is one more example of photoshoppers bastardizing the nice GK maps http://www.npemap.org.uk |
20:55.11 | kiozen | doesn't look too bad to me :) |
20:55.29 | kiozen | those ordonance survey maps are quite nice |
20:55.37 | kiozen | but a real rip off |
20:56.00 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, but they really used photoshop for orthorectification on this site... |
20:56.26 | kiozen | for prices :) http://www.satmap.com/ukstore/index.php?cPath=16_17&osCsid=f3a12c747ce34cba9bc89b4fc342bf63 |
20:56.33 | cr2 | and used affine transform to do it. |
20:56.44 | kiozen | pounds no euro! |
20:56.47 | cr2 | kiozen: these maps are old and out of copyright. |
20:57.18 | cr2 | yeah. |
20:57.44 | kiozen | that unit would be still my dream, but with my own firmware |
20:57.59 | cr2 | :) |
20:58.44 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i tested your latest image with the "old" kernel, and i have history working, and cant see tha anything is not working. I dont have the dialog box "No Network" either |
20:58.52 | cr2 | hehe, the map screenshot looks familiar :) |
21:13.59 | kiozen | cr2: btw did you try out the gps on the loox? |
21:15.20 | cr2 | kiozen: no, i need to resolve the boot crashing first. |
21:15.31 | cr2 | found 6 more gpios, btw :) |
21:16.24 | kiozen | I wonder how much they need for power up! But I meant if you tried it with wince to judge the quality of the receiver. |
21:16.49 | cr2 | no, but i can try. |
21:17.49 | BabelO | cr2: how is wifi on loox ? |
21:18.42 | cr2 | BabelO: it's ok, i run haret over it. |
21:19.07 | cr2 | BabelO: and i don't see the wifi data going over sdio. which gives us a lot of hope. |
21:19.12 | BabelO | cr2: but under linux, any luck ? is it sdio ? |
21:19.24 | BabelO | ok :) |
21:19.30 | cr2 | yes, it has some sdio setup/init. |
21:19.45 | cr2 | i guess sdio is just a replacement for the pcmcia interface. |
21:20.09 | cr2 | BabelO: btw, it may be the same on artemis. |
21:20.41 | BabelO | cr2: ok i see it in arte.S from you ;) |
21:20.50 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, cool have you made a configure ? |
21:20.52 | cr2 | BabelO: but i don't know how to find the mmaped regs. it was the problem on BA too, if you remember. |
21:21.12 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: configure for what? |
21:21.15 | goxboxlive | .config? |
21:21.22 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, for qtopia |
21:21.22 | cr2 | BabelO: i think it's the same on all other omap850 wifi phones. |
21:21.24 | BabelO | cr2: yes i remember |
21:21.32 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: no, i just rebuilded with make |
21:22.02 | BabelO | cr2: i think i ve i2c working on artemis, i ll try to boot over nfs to test with tools |
21:22.03 | ymerejt | so it's strange |
21:22.06 | goxboxlive | but stupid me had did a configure before i tested the screenshot app so i am doinag that too |
21:22.08 | cr2 | BabelO: but i think the address area choice is not that big |
21:22.22 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i am about to upload some screenies now |
21:22.31 | cr2 | BabelO: interesting. do you have some SD related cpld gpios ? |
21:23.24 | BabelO | cr2: that is what i m looking for in asm file |
21:23.54 | BabelO | cr2: Ti1250(SDIO interface) |
21:24.14 | BabelO | cr2: what is SDMC ? set SDIO: 0-WLAN ;1-SDMC |
21:25.28 | cr2 | BabelO: the "normal" use for the SD is the SD card, but the wifi sdio config needs some switch to redirect the port. |
21:25.36 | cr2 | BabelO: it's the same on n560 |
21:25.43 | cr2 | BabelO: aka loox |
21:26.47 | goxboxlive | for thoose of you who likes screenies like me: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/screenies/new/ |
21:27.39 | BabelO | cr2: ok, it is hard to me to understand diff between MMC and SD, on arte MMC clock is 12Mhz and SD clock is 24 Mhz |
21:28.19 | kiozen | goxboxlive: I like the second last on e:) |
21:28.37 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, how to access devtools ? |
21:28.39 | goxboxlive | kiozen: QLandkarte :-) |
21:28.57 | kiozen | cr2: dont't we have a map for goxboxlive |
21:30.09 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: add it to your projects.pro file |
21:30.19 | goxboxlive | add the pathc to the devtools foolder |
21:30.45 | ymerejt | why don't you push changes like that ? |
21:31.19 | cr2 | kiozen: your map is copyrighted, the map i've sent you is politically incorrect :) |
21:31.53 | kiozen | ok what about osm tiles? |
21:32.20 | cr2 | kiozen: it needs a stitch tool. |
21:32.53 | cr2 | hmm. the easiest thing to do is to calculate the world file for the OSM tile. |
21:32.54 | kiozen | ah yes they have 256x256 tiles don't they |
21:33.30 | cr2 | i know how to do it for the not so evil company, and for yahoo. but it's PI too. |
21:33.44 | kiozen | but if these tiles are perfectly alligned and referenced stitching should be easy |
21:34.07 | cr2 | the algorithm is the same afair. |
21:34.18 | cr2 | because they are interchangable. |
21:35.08 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: becsue i dont have my own banch, and i dont know how to push. But i can mail you my device fiolder |
21:35.20 | cr2 | kiozen: where is the OSM wiki page describing the OSM tile naming scheme ? |
21:35.44 | kiozen | don't know :) no link at hand |
21:36.32 | kiozen | http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Slippy_map_tilenames |
21:36.46 | kiozen | forgot about my internal blog :) |
21:36.56 | cr2 | kiozen: it's mercator, but there is something peculiar. |
21:36.57 | cr2 | ok. |
21:37.10 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, ok maybe pasbin a git diff |
21:37.17 | ymerejt | s/ok/or |
21:37.45 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: it will be to huge because of the Makefiles and the binaries i have |
21:38.04 | kiozen | should be defining the area, downloading tiles, save to tiled gtiff |
21:38.05 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, so send me it by email |
21:38.12 | kiozen | adding geo tags |
21:38.14 | goxboxlive | :-) |
21:39.27 | cr2 | kiozen: the m/pix for a zoom level is known. we only need the tile corner coordinates. |
21:40.20 | kiozen | yes and as the tiles are perfectly aligned it shouldn't be more work than my mpr2gtiff converter |
21:41.33 | cr2 | the converter for these 3 numbers is needed http://tile.openstreetmap.org/8/127/85.png |
21:42.19 | cr2 | the first number is the zoom level afair. |
21:42.52 | kiozen | could be some dialog in GT to define the area, and voila - you get your map. |
21:42.55 | cr2 | hm. no. |
21:43.10 | kiozen | no? |
21:43.29 | cr2 | yes, afaik it's already done in maemo mapper |
21:43.41 | cr2 | no -> the first number is not the zoom level. |
21:43.58 | cr2 | where is the maemo mapper source ? |
21:44.18 | cr2 | huh. wiki says Filename(url) format is /zoom/x/y.png |
21:44.34 | cr2 | Each zoom level is a directory, each column is a subdirectory, and each tile in that column is a file |
21:44.52 | cr2 | so the stitching is easy. |
21:45.05 | cr2 | but we still need 1 reference point. |
21:45.48 | cr2 | the projection is spherical mercator : http://www.spatialreference.org/ref/user/6/ |
21:46.58 | kiozen | imoh the wiki page tells how to do it |
21:47.18 | goxboxlive | diogene31: i still dont have the changes. Whats the status |
21:47.20 | goxboxlive | ? |
21:48.21 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: I think ymerejt push didnd't work, my server has no object updated. I'm looking with him ... |
21:48.33 | goxboxlive | ok good |
21:49.06 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: what hould i notice has changed in your last qtopia changes? Or wouldnt i see it with the "old" kernel source? |
21:51.16 | ymerejt | some improvement on outgoing calls |
21:51.30 | ymerejt | yet even this without my last kernel should not be visible |
21:51.43 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: ok |
21:56.37 | cr2 | kiozen: if you can sort it out fast... |
21:56.58 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: do you know that it exist a kernel for htcuniversal in version 2.6.23 ? |
21:57.14 | ymerejt | I have heard about it |
21:57.30 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, is it works fine ? |
21:58.12 | kiozen | cr2: let's see, it's just a matter of free time - as told my sone wants to solder some cirquit with a micro chip. Never let children listen to modern stuff like "Ritter Rost" |
21:59.21 | cr2 | :) |
22:01.08 | kiozen | not funny - he is just 5! But they have quite a nice electronic experimental kit in kindergarten (!) and now he wants to build someting noisy and blinking himself |
22:01.14 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, you should be able to fetch |
22:01.37 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: shoudl i fetch or pull? |
22:01.46 | goxboxlive | i thought pull where the right to do |
22:02.08 | ymerejt | then do pull |
22:02.18 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: 2.6.23 doesnt work good, there where a lot of stuff that where missing |
22:03.27 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, maybe with diogene we will try the 2.6.24 a day |
22:03.28 | goxboxlive | yes now it works |
22:03.31 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: git pull origin htcuniversal I think. |
22:03.33 | goxboxlive | :-) |
22:03.49 | ymerejt | ok |
22:03.54 | ymerejt | so good luck |
22:04.12 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: just a question , why modules, and not in to the kernel zImage? |
22:04.50 | ymerejt | because there is not really differences for users and it's pretty easiest for developper |
22:05.05 | cr2 | kiozen: ok. |
22:05.42 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: ok, so i cant just make it as usuall an add them in to the kernel zImage instead? |
22:06.04 | goxboxlive | I thinksit's easier to just change the zImage than look formodules |
22:06.41 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, do what you want ;) |
22:07.08 | goxboxlive | hmm cant have phone and bluetooth in the zImage anymore |
22:09.37 | ymerejt | ah |
22:09.49 | ymerejt | I look at it .... |
22:10.16 | goxboxlive | thx |
22:11.57 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, set the POWER_DRIVER as static |
22:12.40 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: first i try to build it with your .config |
22:12.45 | goxboxlive | it gives me this |
22:12.48 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
22:12.48 | goxboxlive | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds', needed by `__build'. Stop. |
22:12.48 | goxboxlive | make: *** [arch/arm/kernel] Error 2 |
22:12.48 | goxboxlive | jrs@centrino:~/git/kernel_pda$ |
22:13.16 | ymerejt | I look at it |
22:13.20 | goxboxlive | :-) |
22:13.57 | ImCoKeMaN | hey guys, any of you hear of the new titan rom that allows gps it's a leaked rom so it has MFG bootloader and might even be the linux phone core on it |
22:14.38 | ImCoKeMaN | i know i'm generally the only titan guy here, but this rom might have something.... it's new though so i havne't had much time to look |
22:17.51 | cr2 | ImCoKeMaN: there was no gps before ? |
22:17.56 | ImCoKeMaN | nope! |
22:18.07 | cr2 | but on kaiser it's there. |
22:18.11 | ImCoKeMaN | it was mentioned, but it works now, i haven't loaded it yet |
22:18.19 | ImCoKeMaN | yeah titan never did though |
22:18.44 | ImCoKeMaN | that was one thing that made me jealous of the tilts |
22:18.53 | cr2 | ImCoKeMaN: ok. can you confirm that the SD is traceable on titan ? and the irq too . |
22:20.04 | ImCoKeMaN | i don't think i've traced them |
22:20.07 | cr2 | this is what is seen on kaiser http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ |
22:20.49 | ImCoKeMaN | i'd probly need a walk through when i have more time |
22:21.36 | cr2 | ok. |
22:22.33 | ImCoKeMaN | i think later this weeekend and next week i'll have a bit though |
22:25.01 | ImCoKeMaN | not sure if the files would interest you or not but i could link the dl if ya want |
22:25.11 | kiozen | good night |
22:37.32 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, some files are missing in your git repostory ... work in progress with diogene |
22:37.47 | goxboxlive | :-) |
22:43.23 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, two files missing in fact ;) |
22:44.15 | goxboxlive | :-) are the pushed yet? |
22:44.33 | ymerejt | nop discussion about it in progress ;) |
22:44.35 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i am about together with ljp to solve landscape mode now |
22:45.21 | ymerejt | on the qtopia channel ? |
22:46.00 | goxboxlive | If you look at my configure fle you will see that i have added dynamic rotation, and now it works better, but still the calibration take the input like it was in portrait mode |
22:46.43 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, very interresting ! ;) |
22:46.50 | goxboxlive | :-) |
22:47.31 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: the dialer isent ready for landscpape yet though |
22:47.43 | ymerejt | not a problem for me ;) |
22:49.58 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, kernel build in progress to be sure that only two files were missing |
22:52.12 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: me neither, becuase you can dial with the keyboard |
22:52.50 | ymerejt | moreover when I use my uni as phone I always use it on portrait mode |
22:54.50 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: yes, but for now you have to add change Rot0 -> Rot270 in your startup script. |
22:55.15 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, shouldn't it dynamic ? |
22:55.43 | goxboxlive | Yes it should be, but, we have to make the sources for it i guess |
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22:56.25 | goxboxlive | Actually, screenshot isent working in portrait mode |
22:59.48 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i guess you have to add something to the device folder. The name of the roattaion stuff is transformed |
23:02.40 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I just pushed the missing files |
23:02.46 | goxboxlive | thx |
23:02.56 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, you should be able to pull and build now |
23:05.01 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: what do you mean by power as static |
23:06.03 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, power_driver is set as module ... you need to change it to static if you want to staticaly build bt and phone because they both depend on the power_driver (which is a module of mine) ;) |
23:07.04 | goxboxlive | thx |
23:07.58 | goxboxlive | ok, i might be disconneted or something now. My laptop hate compiling linux kernel. It gets so slow :-( |
23:08.14 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, ok |
23:08.27 | ymerejt | you should use nice |
23:08.37 | ymerejt | 'nice' command I mean |
23:08.55 | *** join/#htc-linux wireddd (n=wired@unaffiliated/wireddd) |
23:08.55 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i still get the same error |
23:09.08 | goxboxlive | it says after pull, allready up to date |
23:09.38 | ymerejt | what is the last commit hash you have |
23:09.44 | ymerejt | ? |
23:10.17 | goxboxlive | fb3c43744a47f4925ea9af82869114161027575d branch 'htcuniversal' of http://82.243.122.54/git/kernel_pd |
23:10.45 | ymerejt | you're not up2date |
23:10.48 | ymerejt | try fetch |
23:11.59 | goxboxlive | Already up-to-date. |
23:12.12 | goxboxlive | after fetch then pull |
23:17.59 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I look at it |
23:18.08 | goxboxlive | good |
23:19.02 | goxboxlive | maybe my Qtopia image is finihed building on my other computer before i am done compiling the linux kernel :-) |
23:19.40 | ymerejt | with the qtopia configure and complete rebuild all is working fine now ;) |
23:20.01 | ymerejt | goxboxlive,I don't have anymore the bugs I talked you |
23:24.53 | paulproteus | ymerejt, yay |
23:25.10 | ymerejt | hi paulproteus, |
23:26.04 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: Qtopia is finished build now, a whole new build :-) |
23:27.02 | goxboxlive | i got the latest changes now |
23:28.38 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: it got true the bug |
23:28.49 | ymerejt | ?????? |
23:29.50 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: (my english ) |
23:30.12 | goxboxlive | it has build the bug part now :-/ |
23:30.26 | *** join/#htc-linux rmoravci1 (n=rmoravci@ip-89-102-255-171.karneval.cz) |
23:30.35 | goxboxlive | it didnt fail where it failed at last attempt |
23:30.54 | cr2 | i'm completely lost about the latest kernel for the universal |
23:31.12 | goxboxlive | cr2: if you make me a cam driver i tell you where we are now :-D |
23:31.14 | cr2 | there are 3-4 already ? |
23:31.38 | goxboxlive | cr2: there are still only one |
23:31.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i may try to merge the driver that pH5 has mentioned to the hh.org CVS |
23:31.59 | goxboxlive | it's the hh-org one,But ymerejt hasent write access and |
23:32.08 | goxboxlive | cr2: good |
23:32.15 | cr2 | goxboxlive: but it's only a half of the jobs. |
23:32.25 | goxboxlive | right |
23:32.28 | cr2 | it's pxa-camera only, i.e. pxa27x-cif |
23:32.49 | goxboxlive | But then other might work firther on it. Dont you miss some kernel work? You where so active a yesr ago or so |
23:32.50 | cr2 | you also need the chip i2c driver |
23:33.15 | cr2 | i need to finish the n560 |
23:33.23 | goxboxlive | cr2: kernel? |
23:33.57 | cr2 | and we need some advanced user-oriented apps too. even with a perfect kernel. |
23:34.05 | cr2 | yes, the n560 kernel |
23:34.10 | goxboxlive | ok |
23:34.19 | goxboxlive | what is user oriented apps? |
23:34.39 | cr2 | M and roadmap. |
23:35.18 | cr2 | and we are very close. |
23:35.51 | cr2 | if tsdogs would have done the poi labels... |
23:39.45 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes but i think, before me make the userapp working we should have a working kernel. And at this point we are allmost there. I dont think users will use linux on universal before all the hardware works on it. |
23:40.16 | goxboxlive | I have used it as my main phone now for a couple of weeks, and i really miss headset or BT headset |
23:43.41 | goxboxlive | Because i feel kind of dumb when i am talking, it's a huge device you put in to your ear :-) |
23:43.49 | cr2 | :D |
23:44.17 | cr2 | we need to find somebody who knows c programming to write the bts compiler. |
23:44.53 | cr2 | i will add the remaining switches to the ak4641 driver. |
23:45.06 | bernt | and using 128 mb of memory ;-) |
23:45.22 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, my push has correctly worked |
23:45.36 | ymerejt | so try pull/ fetch or do the clone and checkout |
23:46.10 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: it's building now |
23:46.11 | cr2 | bernt: does it boot with the set RAMSIZE ? |
23:46.45 | bernt | no, after some lines it stopped |
23:46.54 | goxboxlive | bernt: do you have a universal with 128MB ram? |
23:47.13 | bernt | I have tried 96 and 128 |
23:47.34 | goxboxlive | bernt: and you are uing wm6 right? |
23:48.20 | cr2 | bernt: you should use the right RAMSIZE and mem=128M |
23:48.43 | goxboxlive | no thats not the problem, the problem is wm6 |
23:49.10 | cr2 | goxboxlive: stopped != rebooted ? |
23:49.23 | bernt | I have looked, this device seems to have only 64 mb but 128 mb flash ... |
23:49.25 | goxboxlive | if he had a wm5 it might worked (though maybe wm5 version should have support for 128MB ram) |
23:49.32 | cr2 | goxboxlive: an ymerejt had a watchdog hack for wm6. |
23:50.01 | bernt | I thought that the mda pro has allways 128 mb ... |
23:50.05 | goxboxlive | ahhh |
23:50.07 | goxboxlive | no |
23:50.12 | goxboxlive | ram=64 |
23:50.21 | goxboxlive | flash=128 |
23:50.24 | cr2 | bernt: ok, if you didn't solder it yourself, then you have 64MB RAM |
23:50.52 | bernt | and it has windows mobile 5.0 |
23:50.59 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, cr2, the watchdog hack is available on the git repository kernel |
23:51.13 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: http://pastebin.no/3192 |
23:52.24 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, remove the __exit in buttons and leds |
23:53.49 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: both sections? |
23:53.51 | bernt | cr2: my ba has 128 mb ram and only 32mb flash. not so funny ;-( |
23:54.04 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, both files |
23:55.20 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: yes but there are two sections with __exit in the power file |
23:55.30 | goxboxlive | buttons i mean |
23:55.46 | cr2 | bernt: ba has 96mb flash |
23:55.54 | cr2 | 32+64 |
23:56.01 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, the first one |
23:56.24 | bernt | ;-) ok I forgot this storage disk. |
23:58.25 | goxboxlive | ok |
23:59.55 | goxboxlive | ok, compiled |