| 00:02.01 | BabelO | LunohoD: still around ? |
| 00:07.03 | _CoW_ | how to compile own kernel for arm arch please? i need cross compilator? |
| 00:09.05 | LunohoD | BabelO: yes |
| 00:09.20 | BabelO | LunohoD: can you try my zImage ? |
| 00:09.28 | LunohoD | yes |
| 00:09.40 | BabelO | i just make a latest restart to be sure |
| 00:14.30 | BabelO | LunohoD: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/artemis/zImage |
| 00:16.26 | LunohoD | BabelO: MTYPE? |
| 00:17.03 | BabelO | LunohoD: normally i did not use mtype, i use autodetected mtype, if you run on prophet then set it to 1462 |
| 00:17.49 | LunohoD | i didn't know it can autodetect the mtype |
| 00:18.09 | BabelO | LunohoD: yes mtype is automatically set by haret ;) |
| 00:18.28 | BabelO | LunohoD: if your device is correctly detected else you need to patch mach-list |
| 00:20.27 | BabelO | LunohoD: if it boot can you check /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 00:22.57 | LunohoD | doesn't work |
| 00:23.08 | BabelO | LunohoD: does not boot ? |
| 00:23.36 | LunohoD | i can see HTC ARTEMIS and then screen is flashing and nothing more |
| 00:23.37 | _CoW_ | where can i find a arm920T kernel patch please? |
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| 00:24.49 | BabelO | LunohoD: ok :( usb not detected ? i check the mtype |
| 00:25.13 | LunohoD | BabelO: i dunno |
| 00:29.06 | BabelO | hm yes it is 1462 |
| 00:29.55 | LunohoD | what have you changed? |
| 00:30.24 | BabelO | just some init, using standard mux |
| 00:30.57 | BabelO | and added omap580 / arm926ejs detection |
| 00:31.45 | _CoW_ | please tell me where to find a good kernel source for arm920T |
| 00:32.21 | BabelO | _CoW_: for your s3c processor ? then take hh kernel and look at hermes board |
| 00:32.35 | _CoW_ | hh.org seems to be down |
| 00:33.15 | LunohoD | BabelO: i can show you /proc/cpuinfo from my working kernel |
| 00:33.36 | BabelO | ok , we can compare |
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| 00:35.01 | LunohoD | BabelO: http://www.pastebin.ca/866914 |
| 00:35.06 | _CoW_ | ok i found it thanks |
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| 00:37.03 | BabelO | LunohoD: i just add revision at bottom and in dmesg ( just for cr2) :) http://www.pastebin.ca/866916 |
| 00:37.33 | BabelO | Maybe processor name should be arm926-EJS now |
| 00:39.27 | BabelO | LunohoD: what are your LCDC dump clock ? |
| 00:39.47 | BabelO | LunohoD: mine -> omapfb: Pixclock 5302 kHz hfreq 18.7 kHz vfreq 57.9 Hz |
| 00:40.26 | LunohoD | omapfb: Pixclock 5416 kHz hfreq 19.8 kHz vfreq 59.1 Hz |
| 00:40.29 | BabelO | but my cpu is 201.5 Mhz with this settings Clocks: ARM_SYSST: 0x1040 DPLL_CTL: 0x2fb3 ARM_CKCTL: 0x6506 |
| 00:40.51 | LunohoD | Clocks: ARM_SYSST: 0x1040 DPLL_CTL: 0x2793 ARM_CKCTL: 0x6506 |
| 00:41.16 | LunohoD | Clocking rate (xtal/DPLL1/MPU): 13.0/195.0/195.0 MHz |
| 00:41.24 | BabelO | LunohoD: is prophet at 195Mhz under wince ? |
| 00:41.28 | BabelO | ok ;) |
| 00:41.29 | LunohoD | yes |
| 00:44.52 | cr2 | LunohoD: serial ? |
| 00:45.09 | cr2 | LunohoD: you can check if it's 730, 750 or 850 |
| 00:45.39 | cr2 | it may be useful to avoid doing stupid things. |
| 00:46.19 | LunohoD | what do you mean? |
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| 00:47.30 | LunohoD | serial? |
| 00:48.09 | BabelO | LunohoD: serial reference in omap register |
| 00:48.43 | LunohoD | give me the code :) |
| 00:48.45 | BabelO | LunohoD: with haret -> pd 0xfffe1000 0x4 |
| 00:50.34 | BabelO | cr2: http://www.pastebin.ca/866924 |
| 00:50.37 | BabelO | look better |
| 00:51.43 | BabelO | cr2: do you think it is better to have arm926-ejs in place of CPU: OMAP850 ? |
| 00:54.30 | LunohoD | # pd 0xfffe1000 0x4 |
| 00:54.31 | LunohoD | fffe1000 | 02f1b62c |
| 00:54.48 | BabelO | ok ;) b62c is the jtag |
| 00:55.58 | BabelO | LunohoD: your serial is at 0xfffe1008 and 0xfffe100c |
| 00:56.17 | LunohoD | e7c10615 |
| 00:56.21 | LunohoD | 410358a5 |
| 00:58.44 | BabelO | LunohoD: i ll try to fix the lcd clock and mux settings, to remove all this omap_readl or omap_writel in machine file |
| 01:03.56 | cr2 | LunohoD: no, the "serial" in /proc/cpuinfo ? |
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| 01:04.50 | cr2 | BabelO: i think omap850 is better. but you should separate 730/750/850/etc. |
| 01:06.13 | BabelO | cr2: i understand, it seem i can set revision to 850 or 730 or etc and keep real core cpu name |
| 01:11.27 | LunohoD | cr2: here is my /proc/cpuinfo: http://www.pastebin.ca/866914 |
| 01:11.27 | LunohoD | i dunno why is serial == 0 and how to set it |
| 01:11.56 | BabelO | LunohoD: all is in arch/arm/mach-omap1/id.c |
| 01:13.14 | BabelO | LunohoD: this is a bad hack ;) http://pastebin.ca/866943 |
| 01:13.37 | BabelO | but register are not at same place |
| 01:30.07 | cr2 | ok. |
| 01:30.12 | cr2 | good night |
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| 02:04.14 | BabelO | good night |
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| 04:45.57 | rakeem | Hi guys.... Any news on BA stuff I've missed? |
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| 08:43.09 | kiozen | morning |
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| 08:49.50 | kiozen | alo BabelO |
| 08:51.21 | BabelO | alo kiozen |
| 08:51.34 | BabelO | hey i m at office before 10:00am :) |
| 08:52.03 | kiozen | oh la la, le mac! |
| 08:52.46 | kiozen | I have no pending real work today: That will be a QLandkarte day. Not bad for a Monday :) |
| 09:02.04 | BabelO | kiozen: yes, you have a lot of mail these days |
| 09:02.34 | kiozen | -> /dev/null :P |
| 09:02.42 | kiozen | no not really |
| 09:04.14 | BabelO | yesturday, i have setup cpld on artemis, serial id, mouse, i hope i can set sd card soon, i have gps inside, like your loox |
| 09:12.07 | kiozen | cool, if you get a raster map from you area you can be my guinea pig in the future ;) |
| 09:13.12 | kiozen | I really have to get that gpsd working for my Garmin, to get GPS working while cr2 tries to vapourize my Loox |
| 09:38.57 | BabelO | kiozen: what is the system used by garmin to calculate position ? WGS84 ? |
| 09:39.42 | kiozen | BabelO: yes, that is defined by the GPS standard, however the unit is able to project into many other systems. |
| 09:44.25 | kiozen | BabelO: usually you get the data as longitude/latitude pair on a WGS84 ellipsoid. The displaying app has to project the point to what ever 2D projection it favours. |
| 09:45.03 | kiozen | BabelO: For raster maps this is usually the projection the map was drawn, because you do not want to reproject bitmaps |
| 09:56.45 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, i understand, i ask for this, because my altitude is wrong ,i don't undertstand why, i see there is also EGM96 and RGF93 |
| 09:58.40 | kiozen | BabelO: hm altitude is a bit more complicated. If it is because of a false datum the position of the point in the 2D laine will be wrong, too. |
| 09:59.02 | kiozen | BabelO: in general GPS is not very good in measuring the altitude. |
| 09:59.50 | kiozen | BabelO: Garmin has a barometer sensor in its x devices to stabilize altitude measurement for better or worse. |
| 10:00.07 | BabelO | kiozen: but with 9 satellites, why it is so bad ? |
| 10:00.21 | BabelO | kiozen: ok for barometer sensor |
| 10:00.59 | kiozen | BabelO: because the error in measuring the signals weights more for altitude than position |
| 10:01.51 | BabelO | kiozen: is there a way to change that, with a new geoid calculator ? |
| 10:02.16 | kiozen | Don't think so. it's systematic |
| 10:02.24 | kiozen | Barometer will help |
| 10:02.34 | kiozen | but it will fool you over the day |
| 10:03.28 | kiozen | you start in the morning and in the evening you stand infront of you car but can'r reach the handle because it's 70m above you ;) |
| 10:05.10 | BabelO | kiozen: http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/wgs84/gravitymod/egm96/intpt.html |
| 10:09.03 | kiozen | BabelO: be carefull, such a thing usually gives you a height above the averaged sea level + plus the error made by the ellipsis model. The real height usually is different. |
| 10:09.30 | LunohoD_ | re |
| 10:09.31 | kiozen | to get the offical height you have to look up height data taken by a satelite |
| 10:10.11 | kiozen | and this will differ, too, compared to a height mark, e.g. on a mountain |
| 10:10.48 | kiozen | whereas it is very simple to tell the exact position it's always kind of tricky to tell the altitude. |
| 10:11.03 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, i ve working on gps project during my studies. Have o look at the old asm code :) but don't think we have altitude too |
| 10:11.22 | BabelO | hi LunohoD |
| 10:12.08 | kiozen | BabelO: if it was befor 2000 calculating the altitude for non military use was waist of time :) |
| 10:13.17 | BabelO | kiozen: yes, i just check the date ;) it was 1995 |
| 10:14.01 | kiozen | BabelO: GPS was pretty bad for civil use at this time. They stopped jamming 2000 |
| 10:14.03 | BabelO | kiozen: we have done a special antenna, if ifound the picture i show you |
| 10:14.29 | BabelO | kiozen: yes they reduce error in 1996 and better in 2000 |
| 10:14.52 | kiozen | year 2000 is the birthdate of geocahcing :) |
| 10:15.44 | LunohoD | hi, BabelO |
| 10:16.36 | LunohoD | BabelO: do you know why did your image crash on prophet? |
| 10:20.29 | BabelO | kiozen: http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=15273, there is no picture, but was this one |
| 10:21.47 | BabelO | LunohoD: i think i know why, i have to remove i2c, and i ve set 201Mhz as clock |
| 10:22.53 | BabelO | kiozen: there is more antenna on this web site |
| 10:26.26 | kiozen | BabelO: quad helix: http://home.iae.nl/users/plundahl/antenne/helical.htm :) |
| 10:27.02 | kiozen | that's what is built into the GPSMap&60... |
| 10:47.20 | cr2 | hi |
| 10:48.10 | cr2 | BabelO: i've written a very simple geoid correction for gpsd, it's included there for ages. |
| 10:51.16 | BabelO | cr2: ah ah ok ;) have to try it, i just reinstall gps2blue on my artemis |
| 10:52.40 | cr2 | kiozen: what's really nice about the 60/76 is the LNA. btw, i always attach the external antenna to 76cx while driving. it was included with my old CF gps |
| 10:53.27 | cr2 | the sd501 sdio gps also has an external antenna, i'm curious if it fits for athena. |
| 10:53.50 | kiozen | cr2: never felt like needing an external antenna for the 60SCx. Always have a good reception - except caves :/ |
| 10:54.34 | BabelO | cr2: what is the best mode to use ? sirf binary or nmea ? |
| 10:54.41 | kiozen | the loox has a brain dead connector format. adds 20-30 bugs to the antenna |
| 10:54.51 | cr2 | in the city it's an advantage. i also have a habit of uploading everything to OSM. |
| 10:55.00 | cr2 | hehe. |
| 10:55.23 | cr2 | BabelO: sirf binary, if you know what you are doing. and what for :) |
| 10:55.40 | kiozen | I really would like to know if there is a way to use the built in sirfIII. it's so "grotten schlecht" |
| 10:56.06 | cr2 | BabelO: gpsd has its own sirf binary decoder. |
| 10:56.16 | cr2 | kiozen: on n560 ? |
| 10:57.02 | kiozen | cr2: yes |
| 10:57.11 | kiozen | try it with wince |
| 10:57.28 | kiozen | the reception is rediculus bad |
| 10:57.32 | cr2 | hm. strange. |
| 10:57.59 | kiozen | I guess they have done some mistake in placing the antenna |
| 10:58.04 | cr2 | i was running athena in parallel with 76Cx while driving to Italy and in the alps. |
| 10:58.11 | cr2 | the differences are minimal. |
| 10:58.21 | cr2 | maybe. |
| 10:58.48 | kiozen | you can find users complaining all over the web |
| 10:59.13 | cr2 | maybe they save on power too much. |
| 10:59.35 | kiozen | while I get fill reception with my garmin on a window, the loox see no satelite at all |
| 11:00.21 | cr2 | ok, 60Cx has much better "electromagnetic" design, that's for sure. |
| 11:01.02 | kiozen | cr2: sure, but I don't think it makes such a difference. |
| 11:02.51 | cr2 | ok, we will see. |
| 11:03.11 | cr2 | is it known how to reflash the sirf firmware ? |
| 11:04.07 | cr2 | i've seen some code in gpsd, but afaik it's useless. |
| 11:04.20 | kiozen | haven't investigated so far. but could find anything obvious while browsing |
| 11:06.02 | cr2 | afaik for 60/76Cxx you need to use the webupdate ;-) |
| 11:11.06 | kiozen | that is correct |
| 11:11.47 | kiozen | but as said I never had any issue with Garmin's sirfIII, it's more Garmin itself |
| 11:12.16 | cr2 | they have impressive bug lists. |
| 11:15.55 | cr2 | sadeness: get out of depression, and do some hacking. you have an omap850 phone ? |
| 11:16.27 | sadeness | cr2, correct. |
| 11:17.56 | cr2 | it seems we will finally get something working soon. |
| 11:25.50 | kiozen | cr2: but not for the sirfIII, that is the unit |
| 11:26.09 | kiozen | s/unit/ for the unit |
| 11:26.12 | kiozen | s/unit/ for the unit/ |
| 11:26.20 | kiozen | ~lart apt |
| 11:26.20 | apt | --purges kiozen |
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| 14:03.45 | _CoW_ | hu |
| 14:03.48 | _CoW_ | hi |
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| 14:31.44 | _CoW_ | cr2 , Kevin2 , could we continue to debug the acer e305 tonight please? |
| 14:32.13 | _CoW_ | http://www.deezer.com/track/180169 |
| 14:32.16 | _CoW_ | rah sorry |
| 14:34.17 | BabelO | _CoW_: not french song here ;) |
| 14:34.32 | _CoW_ | :) |
| 14:34.48 | BabelO | _CoW_: from where are you ? |
| 14:35.21 | _CoW_ | france (marseille) |
| 14:35.40 | BabelO | _CoW_: Montpellier ;) |
| 14:35.58 | _CoW_ | lol c pas loin ca |
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| 15:50.41 | aLeSD_ | hi all ... the only stuff that uses the DMA is the LCD , doesn't it ? |
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| 16:20.05 | cr2 | kiozen: there is gdal-1.5.0 since 1 month. |
| 16:20.41 | kiozen | yes and it has some issues, I am subscribed to the user list :) |
| 16:21.13 | kiozen | and with proj 4.6 I have some issues, too. |
| 16:21.30 | kiozen | best to stick with 4.5 until this is settled |
| 16:23.19 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 16:25.57 | cr2 | kiozen: will it be possible to edit the 'waypoints' in GT ? i'd like to reuse it for editing the GCPs. |
| 16:26.29 | kiozen | cr2: :) svn up |
| 16:28.00 | cr2 | ok :) |
| 16:29.58 | kiozen | cr2: gpx stuff is not working, yet. |
| 16:31.09 | cr2 | i use qgis for that. |
| 16:31.16 | cr2 | compiling. |
| 16:31.53 | kiozen | cr2: do not woreship other programms than QLandkarte oO |
| 16:33.18 | cr2 | .qlb ? |
| 16:33.31 | kiozen | QLandkarte Binary :) |
| 16:33.55 | cr2 | wee. now you only need to overlay qlandkarte :) |
| 16:34.49 | kiozen | once I gained world dominance, this new format will drive the author of GPSBabel nuts |
| 16:35.23 | cr2 | LOL |
| 16:35.55 | cr2 | +nadgrids=./BETA2007.gsb |
| 16:36.28 | kiozen | http://crs.bkg.bund.de/crseu/crs/descrtrans/BeTA/de_dhdn2etrs_beta.php |
| 16:36.32 | cr2 | hmm. the maps are loaded, but not rendered. weird. |
| 16:36.56 | cr2 | yeah, i have warped mercator/wgs84 tiles. |
| 16:36.58 | kiozen | blank screen or "no map"? |
| 16:37.04 | cr2 | no map |
| 16:37.14 | kiozen | view out of map? |
| 16:37.19 | cr2 | yes. |
| 16:37.33 | cr2 | need a button like in qgis: |
| 16:37.45 | cr2 | zoom to the layer bounding box. |
| 16:38.06 | kiozen | hm, not good, that might load quite a bit of data |
| 16:38.27 | kiozen | but something like center should do |
| 16:39.16 | cr2 | OMG. the waypoint dialog is the way to world domination. compared to gpsbabel :) |
| 16:39.31 | kiozen | lol |
| 16:40.06 | cr2 | "load waypoints" ? |
| 16:40.25 | kiozen | file -> load geo data |
| 16:40.29 | cr2 | i'll misuse it for loading GCPs from ozi .map files. |
| 16:40.37 | cr2 | yes, but only .qlb ? |
| 16:40.47 | kiozen | and gpx in future |
| 16:41.02 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:41.06 | kiozen | that should do for everything :) |
| 16:41.16 | cr2 | system("gpsbabel") |
| 16:41.17 | kiozen | together with gpsbabel ;) |
| 16:41.26 | cr2 | yes. |
| 16:41.57 | kiozen | I need the binary format to exchange data with the M version |
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| 16:42.20 | kiozen | much easier than some gpx with trillion of other files. |
| 16:43.17 | cr2 | i'm wondering if this one can be reused -> http://bedic.sourceforge.net |
| 16:43.54 | kiozen | as POI database ? |
| 16:44.59 | cr2 | for the descriptions and such. |
| 16:45.34 | cr2 | hehe. use .img for POI db :) |
| 16:46.06 | cr2 | libgarmin has some .MDR dumper already, but i didn't look in detail. |
| 17:07.23 | Kevin2 | _CoW_: You need to port linux to your device. This is a lot of work. I'd start by grabbing OE (openembedded.org) and build the cross compiler. Then I'd read through the docs at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation -- you'll need to map out all the irqs and gpios of the device. Finally, I'd grab a kernel with s3c support - http://git.linuxtogo.org/ |
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| 17:13.30 | cr2 | Kevin2: are you merging the moko patches into git ? |
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| 17:19.51 | kiozen | bbl |
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| 17:28.00 | Kevin2 | cr2: I merged the only one that looked appropriate to me - the usb fix. The others seemed too specific to their hardware. |
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| 17:33.43 | cr2 | Kevin2: mmc ? |
| 17:36.46 | Kevin2 | cr2: It's been a while since I looked at it. Is there a patch that you think should be merged? |
| 17:37.27 | Kevin2 | cr2: Also, if you want to join the project - you're welcome to write access to the git repo. |
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| 19:22.08 | _CoW_ | re |
| 19:22.37 | _CoW_ | Kevin2 Thanks |
| 19:28.45 | _CoW_ | Kevin2 i'm syncing the kernel, i'll tell you when it'll works... thanks for your halp! |
| 19:43.38 | ymerejt | all: hi |
| 19:43.47 | _CoW_ | hi ymerejt |
| 19:48.20 | _CoW_ | Kevin2, it seems to be better now, i see the text , but i had problems with "vga console" in kernel,... |
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| 20:06.20 | BabelO | pH5: hi, omap850 is more stable now ;) |
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| 20:11.31 | dharry | hello |
| 20:11.47 | dharry | i'm new |
| 20:12.58 | dharry | and i try to get linux running on my blueangel but i cant find a running image can someone say me where i can find a good one |
| 20:13.00 | ymerejt | hi |
| 20:13.25 | dharry | i tried gpe and qtopia |
| 20:13.45 | dharry | with both i cant phone or connect with wlan |
| 20:13.58 | BabelO | dharry: http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/images/htcblueangel/ |
| 20:14.30 | pH5 | BabelO: ooh, what happened? |
| 20:16.27 | BabelO | pH5: it seem it was only usb issue ( LunohoD fix it in reusing 2.6.16 version), but i can t startx, with my kernel, i think i do wrong clock... else i fix some mux warning, with doc it look better |
| 20:16.54 | LunohoD | BabelO: what does startx say? |
| 20:17.09 | LunohoD | BabelO: try the linwizard rootfs |
| 20:17.22 | BabelO | LunohoD: starting x mode |
| 20:17.58 | BabelO | LunohoD: yes it works with linwizard kernel but not with mine, i think it is due to my clock setting |
| 20:20.12 | LunohoD | how different are mvista and hh kernels? |
| 20:22.26 | AlGe | dharry: my current image at algepop.net has a touchscreen problem and I'm currently experimenting a little bit. |
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| 20:22.42 | LunohoD | aLeSD: hi |
| 20:23.10 | aLeSD | I'm back again |
| 20:23.16 | aLeSD | hi all |
| 20:23.29 | AlGe | dharry: I believe the current image has no working touchscreen |
| 20:23.33 | aLeSD | pH5 ... please I should have a chat with u |
| 20:23.51 | aLeSD | it's something important |
| 20:23.53 | BabelO | LunohoD: don t know real difference, don t think there are big because you use my patch on other kernel |
| 20:25.50 | _CoW_ | i have a problem with vga.h when compiling the kernel |
| 20:26.05 | _CoW_ | include/video/vga.h:226: warning: comparison is always true due to limited range of data type |
| 20:26.38 | aLeSD | 9it's a warning |
| 20:26.55 | _CoW_ | make[3]: *** [drivers/video/console/vgacon.o] Error 1 |
| 20:26.55 | _CoW_ | make[2]: *** [drivers/video/console] Error 2 |
| 20:26.55 | _CoW_ | make[1]: *** [drivers/video] Error 2 |
| 20:27.01 | _CoW_ | i know but after it crashes |
| 20:27.52 | _CoW_ | problem in this function |
| 20:28.01 | _CoW_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.17 | LunohoD | BabelO: i took only arch/arm/* from your patch |
| 20:29.54 | _CoW_ | problem with pci_membase in fact... |
| 20:32.56 | aLeSD | BabelO is there a GSM module ? |
| 20:33.05 | aLeSD | or a wifi module ? |
| 20:35.32 | aLeSD | very good |
| 20:36.15 | LunohoD | :) |
| 20:41.20 | BabelO | aLeSD: yes; depend of the processor |
| 20:42.17 | aLeSD | OMAP850 |
| 20:43.09 | BabelO | gsm it seem yes, wifi we miss somes things |
| 20:43.10 | aLeSD | BabelO |
| 20:43.21 | aLeSD | :) |
| 20:43.27 | BabelO | bbl |
| 20:43.39 | aLeSD | so ... I need only the LCD and android |
| 20:44.02 | BabelO | you miss sound , bluetooth |
| 20:44.22 | aLeSD | mmm ... in 2.6.23 I saw something of the bluetooth |
| 20:44.24 | LunohoD | anroid sucks |
| 20:44.42 | aLeSD | LunohoD: how u know ? |
| 20:45.29 | LunohoD | aLeSD: i saw it in the emulator |
| 20:45.41 | LunohoD | i tried to run it on prophet |
| 20:46.17 | LunohoD | android failed to start |
| 20:46.48 | LunohoD | java acceleration in not possible |
| 20:46.56 | aLeSD | lol |
| 20:47.09 | aLeSD | but android will be opensource ? |
| 20:47.21 | LunohoD | i dunno |
| 20:47.37 | aLeSD | I dunno == I don't know ? |
| 20:47.43 | LunohoD | yes |
| 20:48.03 | aLeSD | I hpe so |
| 20:48.12 | aLeSD | LunohoD: we have java acc in omap850 |
| 20:48.25 | aLeSD | we don't know how use it |
| 20:48.30 | aLeSD | but it has the hw |
| 20:49.55 | LunohoD | aLeSD: jvm should be aware of this technology and android's vm isn't |
| 20:50.25 | LunohoD | it is even not a jvm! |
| 20:50.44 | aLeSD | LunohoD: mmm |
| 20:50.48 | aLeSD | shit |
| 20:50.54 | LunohoD | java bytecode is being converted on the fly |
| 20:51.50 | aLeSD | well ... so ... we hope in openmoko no ? |
| 20:52.35 | LunohoD | not on the fly, i lied |
| 20:52.36 | LunohoD | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine |
| 20:52.55 | LunohoD | Dalvik is often referred to as a Java Virtual Machine, but this is not strictly accurate, as the bytecode on which it operates is not Java bytecode. |
| 20:53.45 | aLeSD | shit |
| 20:53.50 | aLeSD | so it's not java |
| 20:53.59 | aLeSD | mmm |
| 20:54.21 | aLeSD | I can't run java code on android |
| 20:54.43 | aLeSD | and I have to use the android compiler to generate the code |
| 20:54.51 | LunohoD | you can convert java class into dalvic code and run it |
| 20:57.17 | aLeSD | ok ... I need my LCD work |
| 20:58.26 | _CoW_ | do i need ignore-vgacon-if-hardware-not-present patch for vgacon please? |
| 21:07.37 | AlGe | dharry: I reverted my touchscreen experiments (tsc2200-ts instaed of ts-adc) in my algepop.net BA images, so the current should work again. |
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| 21:25.05 | aLeSD | BabelO: and what about the camera ? |
| 21:25.12 | aLeSD | dreaming ? |
| 21:29.05 | _CoW_ | my acer e305 is locking on disabling framebuffer feedback |
| 21:29.23 | _CoW_ | anyone know how to enable the kernel debug log please? |
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| 21:41.46 | AlGe | dharry, hi |
| 21:42.04 | AlGe | had you success with my images? |
| 21:42.04 | dharry | hi i have tryed the latest angstrom gpe image for my blueangel |
| 21:42.21 | dharry | now when i try to phone i get an error |
| 21:42.22 | AlGe | and was touchscreen ok? |
| 21:42.40 | dharry | yes |
| 21:42.46 | dharry | all fine |
| 21:43.03 | dharry | but i like the qtopia gui a bit more |
| 21:43.04 | AlGe | what phone error? "mixer" stuff, or permission denied? |
| 21:43.44 | dharry | first: could not initialse the phone at /dev/ ttys0 via string |
| 21:43.46 | _CoW_ | do you know what's the problem when the screen locks on: "disabling framebuffer feedback" |
| 21:44.17 | dharry | second; cant get mixer element 'Phone' |
| 21:45.00 | AlGe | dharry: well, thats the wrong permission problem, read bottom of http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/README.txt |
| 21:45.30 | AlGe | the extra tar file has some extra fixes. |
| 21:46.04 | dharry | yes i know |
| 21:46.19 | _CoW_ | could you help me please |
| 21:46.25 | dharry | i have put the extra files into the ext3 file system |
| 21:47.58 | AlGe | ok, then /etc/gpe/gpe-login.conf should fix the permission problem. |
| 21:48.26 | AlGe | but maybe I have forgotton to add my later changes into the tar file ... |
| 21:49.09 | _CoW_ | ok i found the problem... |
| 21:49.29 | AlGe | dharry: is settihtc process running? |
| 21:52.59 | dharry | where can i see if it is running? |
| 21:53.43 | AlGe | ps axuw|grep settihtc |
| 21:54.38 | AlGe | or try gettihtc /dev/ttyS0 |
| 21:54.58 | AlGe | should say someting about N_THITC and atcmd channel |
| 21:56.25 | _CoW_ | do you use vgacon please? (vga for console) |
| 22:04.31 | dharry | my system crashed i have to restart |
| 22:06.39 | dharry | there is no output |
| 22:07.26 | dharry | in the phone config is the device box empty is this the problem? |
| 22:08.14 | AlGe | dharry: no, |
| 22:08.50 | AlGe | dharry: i made a new gpe-alge.tar file ... use this and reinstall the settihtc package via |
| 22:09.18 | dharry | via? |
| 22:09.24 | AlGe | ipkg update; /etc/init.d/settihtc stop; |
| 22:09.44 | AlGe | ipkg install --force-reinstall settihtc |
| 22:10.19 | AlGe | but you need to add my feed conf first. wait ... i'll add this to the tar file too |
| 22:11.15 | dharry | i have not internet connection for my phone |
| 22:11.34 | dharry | cause i use wpa encryption |
| 22:11.55 | dharry | or is there a way for wpa? |
| 22:12.14 | AlGe | I dont know. |
| 22:13.02 | AlGe | but you can just download the ipk file directly to your card, it is |
| 22:14.05 | AlGe | at http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/ipk/armv5te/ |
| 22:17.29 | AlGe | then you can "ipkg install --force-reinstall settihtc_0.1-r0_armv5te.ipk" |
| 22:20.51 | AlGe | tar file now uploaded |
| 22:27.05 | AlGe | there is a wpa-supplicant ipkg and it is installed in the image. maybe it works. |
| 22:31.39 | AlGe | dharry: I have to finish now, ... good luck and dont forget to set the alsamixer values correctly before using the phone (see setup hints at http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux) |
| 22:32.26 | dharry | thx |
| 22:44.39 | _CoW_ | someone can tell me how to map out irqs and gpios please? |
| 22:48.54 | _CoW_ | :( |
| 22:50.53 | Kevin2 | _CoW_: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 22:51.14 | _CoW_ | i read it but i don't understant what mus i do... |
| 22:53.57 | Kevin2 | You need to put together a document (preferably on a wiki) with the list of all the irqs and gpios, and what you think each irq and gpio does. |
| 22:54.14 | _CoW_ | gpos: http://pastebin.ca/867853 |
| 22:54.24 | _CoW_ | gpios |
| 22:54.54 | _CoW_ | are they needed to see a video output ? |
| 22:58.16 | Kevin2 | You're getting too far ahead. If you want to run linux on your device, you are going to need to build a custom kernel. You can forget about getting video output until you've got a custom kernel. In order to put together a custom kernel, you need to understand the irqs, gpios, and other pieces of hardware. |
| 22:58.35 | _CoW_ | i have a custom kernel |
| 22:58.41 | _CoW_ | i built it with armutils |
| 22:58.46 | _CoW_ | and took your git kernel |
| 22:58.59 | Kevin2 | This is pretty complex stuff, so it will take a lot of time and patience. |
| 22:59.04 | Kevin2 | (and research). |
| 22:59.17 | Kevin2 | What machine did you compile the kernel for? |
| 22:59.34 | _CoW_ | i saw with "wi" the touchscreen |
| 22:59.47 | _CoW_ | for arm920T |
| 22:59.49 | _CoW_ | cait |
| 22:59.51 | _CoW_ | wait |
| 23:00.08 | _CoW_ | Samsung S3C2410, S3C2412, S3C2413, S3C2440, S3C2442, S3C2443 (ARCH_S3C2410) |
| 23:01.29 | Kevin2 | Okay - you need a kernel customized for your device -- that is, you must compile an "Acer e300" kernel. |
| 23:01.45 | Kevin2 | Of course, no one has written the kernel code for that device yet. |
| 23:01.51 | _CoW_ | :) |
| 23:02.10 | Kevin2 | So, you can either write it yourself (long and hard), or wait for someone else to do. |
| 23:02.28 | _CoW_ | or buy a compatible device :p |
| 23:04.21 | _CoW_ | i know i won't be able to code one... |
| 23:04.29 | _CoW_ | but if i can dump some stuffs... |
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