| 00:00.35 | cr2 | Primus: http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ |
| 00:00.47 | cr2 | Primus: get haret-0.5.1.exe |
| 00:00.48 | BabelO | night ;) |
| 00:01.15 | cr2 | Primus: put it on the device, and create the empty 'earlyharetlog.txt' file |
| 00:01.25 | cr2 | then run haret-0.5.1.exe |
| 00:01.35 | cr2 | pastebin the 'haretlog.txt' file |
| 00:02.17 | dcordes | cr2, what if SD works completely with dma? |
| 00:03.23 | cr2 | dcordes: it's evil. |
| 00:03.37 | dcordes | :-( |
| 00:04.02 | cr2 | dcordes: the SPL has the sane code, so we should reuse it then. |
| 00:04.43 | cr2 | i think disassembling the microkernel may be even more difficult. |
| 00:05.16 | dcordes | what about that forum? http://forum.modopo.com/diskussionen-rund-ums-modding/t-19197-ef81-qc-bqs-firmware-analyzer/page7.html |
| 00:05.34 | dcordes | I wonder if those guys do anything of value for us |
| 00:06.07 | cr2 | no, i think it's too hardcore for now. |
| 00:06.36 | dcordes | what are they up to? unlocking simlocks? |
| 00:06.47 | dcordes | "Regarding my tool, I will add the possibility to use it with usb phones that make no use of normal com ports." |
| 00:08.42 | AlGe | Babelo: still no extra keys, will continue tomorrow, bye |
| 00:09.45 | Primus | cr2, nothing seems to happen when I hit "run" it just sits there |
| 00:10.07 | dcordes | Primus, it creates the file by just runnig it |
| 00:10.18 | dcordes | in case you have earlyharetlog.txt inside haret.exe folder |
| 00:10.33 | dcordes | the run key is to launch a script that boots a kernel |
| 00:10.44 | Primus | oh |
| 00:11.05 | Primus | I created that file "earlyharetlog.txt" in the same dir as the exe (my docs) but it didnt write anything out to it |
| 00:11.24 | cr2 | Primus: you don't need to do 'Run' |
| 00:11.24 | Primus | wait |
| 00:11.31 | Primus | I got a haretlog.txt file |
| 00:11.34 | cr2 | Primus: do you have 'haretlog.txt' |
| 00:11.34 | Primus | yeah I get that |
| 00:11.35 | dcordes | right |
| 00:11.40 | cr2 | ok, pastbin it. |
| 00:12.11 | Primus | http://pastebin.com/m2e7a97a9 |
| 00:13.27 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:13.29 | cr2 | Wince reports processor: core= name=OMAP850 201MHz cat= vend=TI |
| 00:13.38 | cr2 | Plat='SmartPhone' OEM='HTC S621 |
| 00:13.53 | Primus | yeah, 621 = rogers rebranded 620 |
| 00:14.01 | Primus | is that good then? |
| 00:14.43 | cr2 | it's not easy. look at wizard/prophet/etal. |
| 00:15.02 | cr2 | we also need to search for CPLD |
| 00:15.04 | dcordes | cr2, wizard has much progress recentl |
| 00:15.18 | cr2 | to detect what kind of CPLD is used. |
| 00:15.55 | cr2 | dcordes: they have the touchscreen driver and the i2c CPLD driver ? somehow i doubt it. |
| 00:17.13 | dcordes | cr2, <miknix> with our tagged stable kernel, it's currently booting with fb support, limited keyboard and usb gadget |
| 00:17.38 | cr2 | dcordes: it was the same 1 year ago. |
| 00:17.59 | dcordes | oh :) |
| 00:18.17 | cr2 | the key things are the touchscreen and the i2c CPLD. |
| 00:18.36 | cr2 | not rocket science (like kaiser :), just needs some patience. |
| 00:18.48 | dcordes | cr2, I wonder if Primus can boot their kernel |
| 00:19.09 | dcordes | https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=174107 |
| 00:19.14 | cr2 | he can try, the chances are not bad. for fb and usb. |
| 00:19.36 | dcordes | I had fb on prophet with one year old wizard kernel |
| 00:19.48 | dcordes | Primus, you up to try booting? |
| 00:19.55 | cr2 | we need to finish the omap850 gpio mapping. it seems to be mostly the same on all htc omap850 phones. |
| 00:21.26 | dcordes | maybe it would be goot if silven and the other omap guys would try to cooperate more instead of doing their own linwizard thing |
| 00:21.41 | dcordes | good |
| 00:22.19 | dcordes | Primus, you can try to boot this. It has a README http://downloads.sourceforge.net/linwizard/linwizard-0.1.0-r1.tar?modtime=1198271970&big_mirror=0 |
| 00:22.58 | Primus | sure, will have to do it in the AM though |
| 00:23.27 | dcordes | it is 2.6.16 |
| 00:24.44 | cr2 | good night. |
| 00:24.58 | dcordes | good night cr2 |
| 00:24.58 | Primus | nite, thanks for the help so far |
| 00:25.07 | Primus | I am out too |
| 00:25.25 | dcordes | me too bye |
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| 04:03.00 | domtarOpaque | quiet channel |
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| 05:17.30 | goxboxlive | good morning |
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| 05:25.10 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: there? |
| 05:25.25 | paulproteus | Yup, what's up? |
| 05:25.46 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: could you pull snapshot. It seems like it's up again. |
| 05:27.11 | paulproteus | Cool, restarting it now. |
| 05:27.21 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 05:28.06 | paulproteus | Hey, no they're not back... |
| 05:28.12 | paulproteus | The files are still 0b! |
| 05:28.23 | goxboxlive | ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.1-snapshot-20080110.tar.gz |
| 05:28.26 | goxboxlive | nope |
| 05:28.35 | goxboxlive | it's back |
| 05:28.35 | paulproteus | *Oh*, I see. |
| 05:28.38 | paulproteus | Interesting, okay. |
| 05:28.44 | paulproteus | There's some secret history we'll never know about. (-: |
| 05:28.56 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 05:29.12 | goxboxlive | now lets see if they have added some cool stuff. |
| 05:34.48 | paulproteus | Wow, many changes... |
| 05:35.39 | paulproteus | http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=commitdiff;h=920e54fdfdd994021b51de05cb97d175e53244e3 |
| 05:36.22 | paulproteus | Mostly boring (C) 2008 messages (-; |
| 05:36.58 | paulproteus | Enjoy! |
| 05:37.07 | goxboxlive | ok, thx |
| 05:37.23 | goxboxlive | i thought roatate where added |
| 05:38.53 | paulproteus | I'm going to eat something so I'll finish reading it later. |
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| 07:22.17 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, So is rotation in? |
| 07:23.53 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: have no idea. |
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| 07:24.06 | goxboxlive | Have you checked the diff? |
| 07:24.12 | paulproteus | Not yet. |
| 07:24.14 | paulproteus | I will now. |
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| 07:44.07 | paulproteus | Still downloading the diff.... |
| 07:48.22 | paulproteus | There's a new bluetoothservice, a new example "Qtopia Desktop Sync Plugin", |
| 07:49.42 | paulproteus | There's a "GPRS Monitor" |
| 07:51.47 | paulproteus | I'm falling asleep, ttyl... |
| 07:59.32 | goxboxlive | :-) g.night |
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| 11:38.48 | alge | hi, |
| 11:38.48 | alge | this time i booted my BA by accident in airplane mode from wince: then gsm is not available in linux. is the command already known to switch it on from that state (or also to switch off to that state)? |
| 11:39.32 | alge | i'll just reboot now but it could help to save power if we know this too |
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| 12:32.42 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 12:33.21 | goxboxlive | Got any Universal yet? Why do you want a Universal now? Dont you think we will have the BA and Mag as good as Uni? |
| 12:44.52 | Foxdie | goxboxlive: how IS the uni progress doing? |
| 12:45.12 | Foxdie | last rom I tried I couldn't get the phone to work because no minicom, and no working package manager :) |
| 12:48.04 | BabelO_ | goxboxlive: no i forgot to go to ebay this morning, this universal was in package , never udes and only for 150 euros |
| 12:48.08 | goxboxlive | Foxdie: should work, but there arent any application to install. The phone works a lot better now. Test it out, it's in the usual places |
| 12:48.16 | BabelO_ | goxboxlive: but i think i wait for gta02 :) with wifi |
| 12:49.12 | goxboxlive | BabelO yes, i think GTA02 will be a great device. Stupid me bought the GTA01, now it's only collecting dust since universl works better :-) |
| 12:49.23 | Foxdie | I guess I could try it out |
| 12:49.37 | Foxdie | the irony however is I never use it as a phone, I have a seperate mobile for voice and sms |
| 12:49.47 | Foxdie | I just need 3G / UTMS / GPRS data :) |
| 12:51.51 | Foxdie | GTA02? whats that? |
| 12:54.15 | cr2 | Foxdie: it's the delayed new promised moko device. |
| 12:54.28 | Foxdie | I've been toying with the idea of selling my universal and getting an advantage |
| 12:55.02 | cr2 | i'm wondering what kind of problems do they have with wifi. |
| 12:55.33 | cr2 | Foxdie: athena is a fun device, but don't expect it fully supported like universal. |
| 12:55.48 | Foxdie | athena? |
| 12:55.56 | cr2 | yes. |
| 12:56.11 | Foxdie | ahh, the advantage |
| 12:56.21 | Foxdie | well, the universal isn't really fully supported is it? |
| 12:56.28 | Foxdie | still no flash access |
| 12:57.49 | Foxdie | infact, http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal hasn't been updated according to the page since august last year |
| 12:57.51 | cr2 | hehe. it seems i should fix it, to keep everybody happy. at least the ro-g3 |
| 12:58.14 | Foxdie | I'm happy to test read only flash access ;) |
| 12:58.16 | cr2 | this page is not very informative |
| 12:58.25 | cr2 | look for http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus |
| 12:58.33 | Foxdie | ah yes more up to date |
| 12:59.21 | Foxdie | do you know what I'd really like? ever heard of pdaXrom for the Zaurus? full X11 environment <3 |
| 12:59.46 | Foxdie | proper laptop feel, not some wierd desktop that you cant display multiple windows on |
| 13:00.04 | cr2 | yes, i'd like to test x11+qt4 on athena. |
| 13:00.05 | Foxdie | I miss my zaurus, it was good |
| 13:00.21 | Foxdie | shame no built in wifi / bluetooth / 3G |
| 13:01.22 | cr2 | and bizarre SD driver ;) |
| 13:02.35 | cr2 | i hate vendor-developed linux kernels. |
| 13:03.05 | Foxdie | hehe |
| 13:03.29 | Foxdie | I think focus on 2 things for universal now would be great |
| 13:03.58 | Foxdie | 1. fix keyboard resume issues, 2. flash access |
| 13:04.04 | cr2 | slash and ? |
| 13:04.05 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:04.16 | Foxdie | cant do sdio until booting from flash I guess? |
| 13:04.48 | cr2 | why ? |
| 13:04.59 | cr2 | do you have a sdio card ? |
| 13:05.03 | Foxdie | as nice as it would be to have videoconferencing, I doubt that the universal has fast enough cpu for it, so cameras aren't really a priority, and lets be honest, the CMOS cameras in universal are poor quality :) |
| 13:05.28 | Foxdie | nope, but if there's one cheap I don't mind buying you one to develop with |
| 13:05.33 | cr2 | htc itself admits that their cam implementations are shit. |
| 13:06.30 | Foxdie | will any old SDIO card / device do? |
| 13:06.50 | Foxdie | there's lots of SDIO wifi cards, but I doubt they're of much use to Universal as it already has wifi |
| 13:06.57 | cr2 | yes, i have sd501 gps |
| 13:07.08 | Foxdie | SDIO GPS module? |
| 13:07.34 | cr2 | i wish to find the old c-guys sdio wifi card. it has the same acx100 chipset as the uni/ba. |
| 13:07.35 | cr2 | yes. |
| 13:07.59 | cr2 | http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/globalsat-sdio-gps-sd501.php |
| 13:08.02 | Foxdie | Cool, don't you fear it would snap though with it being so big and protruding from side? |
| 13:09.02 | cr2 | there is a linux sdio gps driver already. |
| 13:09.14 | cr2 | you only need the host support. |
| 13:09.35 | cr2 | pxa has it. asic3 does not. yet. |
| 13:09.41 | Foxdie | I have a Qstarz BT-Q810 Bluetooth GPS receiver (MTK chipset) that works fine for my gps tracking project, but the software that does the update is only for windows CE *AND* you have to pay for it |
| 13:09.50 | Foxdie | I would love to get a linux version made |
| 13:10.10 | cr2 | usb ? |
| 13:10.27 | Foxdie | no, bluetooth |
| 13:10.44 | cr2 | what is "update" ? |
| 13:11.04 | Foxdie | oh, I wanted to learn PHP and AJAX |
| 13:11.18 | Foxdie | so I made a live gps tracking website |
| 13:11.56 | Foxdie | there is some software I found called GPSGATE that runs on Windows Mobile that connects to a GPS receiver, gets the data and uploads it to a web server periodically |
| 13:12.12 | Foxdie | the problem is that software isn't free |
| 13:12.46 | Foxdie | It is my hope that one day I can fully migrate my Universal to linux and still be able to use my GPS receiver for tracking |
| 13:12.51 | cr2 | roadmap_editor does something similar. |
| 13:13.14 | cr2 | you can do it already. |
| 13:13.24 | Foxdie | I can probably write a perl or php script that gets GPS data and uploads it automatically |
| 13:13.31 | cr2 | i.e. use bt gps on uni. |
| 13:13.43 | Foxdie | aye, the software isn't the problem |
| 13:13.55 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:13.58 | Foxdie | its just, I want uni to be 100% ready for full migration before I migrate :) |
| 13:14.35 | Foxdie | so to move forward, what are the priorities for Universal development? |
| 13:14.52 | Foxdie | and, how can I help? |
| 13:15.06 | Foxdie | I can give a little money, I can test software, but I'm not a fully fledged programmer |
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| 13:27.54 | Foxdie | I just want to see it reach 100% :) |
| 13:34.01 | Foxdie | question, I see from that page Trolltech gave libraries for QTOPIA, will those libraries work for X11 rom? |
| 13:34.21 | Foxdie | and do all roms now support the "file on SD card" method? |
| 13:34.37 | Foxdie | It would be nice to get all my storage space back on my SD card if so :) |
| 13:51.24 | MichouX | BabelO_: hey |
| 13:52.17 | cr2 | Foxdie: sorry, i was away for some time. |
| 13:53.27 | BabelO | Hello MichouX |
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| 13:54.55 | Foxdie | np, read up cr2 ;) |
| 14:18.03 | MichouX | I will start to work on blueangel qtopia device |
| 14:18.50 | MichouX | BabelO_: I would like to know if you have already write somethink or if I have to start from scrash ? |
| 14:24.39 | BabelO | MichouX: for what ? |
| 14:24.44 | BabelO | MichouX: qtopia ? |
| 14:24.55 | BabelO | MichouX: I have writen some plugin, button / keyboard works, gsm plugin need more work |
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| 14:53.07 | MichouX | BabelO: is your works are online ? |
| 14:57.42 | BabelO | MichouX: online, yes, on gmail mailbox ;), send me your email in private and i ll send you back my work |
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| 17:26.06 | dcordes_ | hi all |
| 17:26.23 | dcordes_ | goxboxlive, your htcuniversal is working better than your gta01? |
| 17:27.03 | goxboxlive | dcordes: yes absolute. I am using my universal as my daily phone now running Qtopia |
| 17:29.42 | cr2 | goxboxlive: roadmap icons ? |
| 17:31.01 | goxboxlive | cr2: i dont know what you mean |
| 17:31.03 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'll create the map of Oslo right now. |
| 17:31.05 | cr2 | lol |
| 17:31.20 | cr2 | looking for your screenshot |
| 17:31.48 | goxboxlive | there are icons under /ysr/local/share. check them out and move them to the right place if they are in the wrong path. ANd please send me a mail about what path it should be in and then i place it right next time. |
| 17:31.55 | goxboxlive | cr2: thanks a lot |
| 17:32.18 | goxboxlive | I'll charge my neo and test it tomorrow when i go to work. |
| 17:32.31 | goxboxlive | I think the accuracy is about 100km wrong |
| 17:32.50 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'll create the map, you'll cehck it. then i'll check qtopia :) |
| 17:34.53 | dcordes | goxboxlive, that's really remarkable |
| 17:35.24 | dcordes | I wonder how the neo with such massive count of contributors can be less functional |
| 17:35.29 | dcordes | maybe it is the hardware? |
| 17:37.09 | cr2 | dcordes: imho the main problem of moko is that it's not commodity hardware |
| 17:37.56 | cr2 | therefore one needs to waste a lot of time and resources debugging and developing hardware |
| 17:39.10 | cr2 | greenphone was in the same league |
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| 17:41.07 | cr2 | but for some reason nobody "institutional" wants to help linux on htc phones. fear of m$ ? |
| 17:42.22 | dcordes | cr2, you mean helping as in coming here, providing docs and code? |
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| 17:42.35 | Pryan | hi all |
| 17:45.44 | dcordes | cr2, in case of google we now why they don't help |
| 17:45.53 | cr2 | dcordes: no. trolls could have developed qtopia for uni instead of gta01 themselves. but they phear the beast :) |
| 17:46.37 | cr2 | dcordes: google has different priorites |
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| 17:46.51 | dcordes | cr2, I always wonder what those are |
| 17:47.34 | dcordes | I think one main goal is to spread all their sevices to the mobile world using android's userland |
| 17:48.36 | cr2 | yeah, and doing tracking+advertisement in the process |
| 17:49.08 | cr2 | userland on top of java on top of linux on top of microkernel. |
| 17:49.54 | dcordes | welcome to the pseudo free world |
| 17:49.55 | cr2 | hehe. compare that with qtopia on raw framebuffer :) |
| 17:51.24 | dcordes | best is, community does pr for free |
| 17:52.04 | cr2 | we only need to provide some competitive applications. |
| 17:52.35 | AlG1 | rakeem: if you still need help with your gprs: I got it now working setting the PPP auth mode explicitly to 1(=PAP), was 3(=auto) with AT%CGPPP=1 (see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM) |
| 17:52.35 | AlG1 | there is only a dummy PAP user and password needed for my provider ("one", compare my /etc/ppp/peers/hui peers config at http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/agebhard/HuaweiE220/). |
| 17:53.49 | dcordes | cr2, I think the biggest plus from user point of view is the whole eyecandy image they build up together with quick and responsive interface |
| 17:53.52 | cr2 | dcordes: that's why i'm pushing for roadmap and qlandkarteM. |
| 17:54.24 | dcordes | I tried some poky image with android on my zaurus and I have to admit it's pretty fast compared to my usual gpe backend |
| 17:54.27 | cr2 | dcordes: we will be quicker, because our technical approach is superiour. |
| 17:54.44 | dcordes | did not try qtopia yet though |
| 17:54.51 | dcordes | but that's something on my list |
| 17:55.14 | dcordes | what is the m in qlandkarteM? |
| 17:55.24 | Pryan | cr2 how about the driver for SD for athena ? |
| 17:55.28 | cr2 | qtopia4 compiled by goxboxlive is faster than motorolas qtopia2 on my a780 |
| 17:56.03 | cr2 | Pryan: nothing new yet. have you bought the usb/tv cable ? |
| 17:56.20 | Pryan | nope, not money |
| 17:56.22 | cr2 | dcordes: it's the raster gpsnav app |
| 17:56.37 | Pryan | :o) |
| 17:57.31 | cr2 | dcordes: http://www.qlandkarte.org |
| 17:59.06 | cr2 | http://www.qlandkarte.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=9 |
| 18:00.54 | dcordes | cr2, I wonder how you get maps into qlandkarte as somebody who never dealt with gps mapping like me |
| 18:02.00 | BabelO | AlG1: any news ? |
| 18:02.31 | cr2 | dcordes: we are working on this :) |
| 18:03.04 | goxboxlive | cr2: thats true, if we just could have the essential working, it would be a great phone. It's small and it has GPS :-) |
| 18:03.36 | cr2 | dcordes: since the maps we officially use are free ( http://openstreetmap.org ) that's not a problem to distribute them. |
| 18:04.05 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes, and we will wipe out all that moto stupidity from it ;) |
| 18:04.29 | cr2 | goxboxlive: beginning with the usb charging bug. |
| 18:06.00 | dcordes | cr2, open street map is one thing.. maybe something in the current state not all people would prefer. how about third party material? Let's say you have bought the latest tomtom go(tm). Would it be possible to improt its maps? |
| 18:06.20 | dcordes | import |
| 18:08.30 | cr2 | dcordes: no, and you know why. |
| 18:08.59 | AlG1 | Babelo: not yet, I'll be off for an hour or so doing my kitchen job :-) |
| 18:09.20 | cr2 | dcordes: but read that first -> http://navit.sourceforge.net/?page=readme |
| 18:09.23 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: can i have several local branches in one git tree? Like one for my universal and one for my openezx device? |
| 18:10.07 | goxboxlive | And if i switch branch to openezx now, will that break my locale myphone branch? |
| 18:10.14 | goxboxlive | (i dont understand GIT) |
| 18:10.52 | cr2 | cannot process Oslo: built with no SHPMP support. |
| 18:10.56 | cr2 | hmm. |
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| 18:12.07 | cr2 | bin/ld: cannot find -lsh |
| 18:12.49 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, You can have many local branches, as many as you like. |
| 18:12.55 | paulproteus | git stores all the metadata for all the branches in .git/ |
| 18:13.01 | paulproteus | So you can switch branches at your will. |
| 18:14.42 | goxboxlive | so if i will create a new branch based on openezx what do i have to do first |
| 18:14.59 | paulproteus | First, commit all the changes on this branch you want to save. |
| 18:15.10 | goxboxlive | do i checkout the new branch first or do i create a new local one first |
| 18:15.15 | goxboxlive | done |
| 18:15.48 | dcordes | cr2, what commercial applications use garmin format? |
| 18:16.18 | paulproteus | git branch --track myezx origin/openezx |
| 18:16.27 | paulproteus | Then "git checkout myezx". |
| 18:16.34 | goxboxlive | ok, thx |
| 18:17.21 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Sure thing. It's easy to merge the new 4.3.1-snapshot changes, btw - let me know if you need help with that. |
| 18:17.33 | paulproteus | And presumably you'll want to push to the openezx remote branch - let me know if you need help with that too. |
| 18:17.57 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i've built the Oslo map and tested it with Google skin :) |
| 18:18.09 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: i want to merge the new snapshot in to openezx, how do i do that. I thought it where auto updated |
| 18:18.16 | cr2 | dcordes: nobody, it's all RE. |
| 18:18.21 | goxboxlive | cr2: cool, could you mail it to me |
| 18:18.27 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Qtopia - step 6: |
| 18:18.32 | paulproteus | git fetch |
| 18:18.36 | paulproteus | git merge origin/4.3.1-snapshot |
| 18:18.42 | dcordes | cr2, RE? |
| 18:18.50 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you'll probably miss the polygons on the "official" version. |
| 18:18.53 | paulproteus | If you like what happens, then you can git push origin myezx:refs/heads/openezx |
| 18:19.00 | cr2 | dcordes: ReverseEngineered |
| 18:19.43 | cr2 | goxboxlive: heh. need to convert to utf8 first. it's latin1 now, and shows weird glyphs. |
| 18:19.58 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:20.38 | dcordes | cr2, pity that I have no working device with gps so I can play around with all this |
| 18:23.35 | cr2 | goxboxlive: where is the angstrom letter on the keyboard ? |
| 18:24.28 | cr2 | got œ æ ø right now :) |
| 18:24.43 | cr2 | å Å |
| 18:24.48 | cr2 | ok |
| 18:25.19 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 18:25.36 | cr2 | goxboxlive: sending. |
| 18:26.23 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 18:26.53 | goxboxlive | i cant test it now, my NEO hasent got any battery. It takes time to charge it |
| 18:27.14 | cr2 | goxboxlive: uni ? |
| 18:28.08 | goxboxlive | no gps |
| 18:28.27 | goxboxlive | my BT gps is gone after i moved, it's probably in a box somewhere :-) |
| 18:28.54 | goxboxlive | I'll test it later on my NEO since i know the gps is working. |
| 18:28.59 | cr2 | goxboxlive: does not matter. look at the map itself. |
| 18:29.05 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:29.08 | cr2 | and we need to fix the pixmap path. |
| 18:29.13 | cr2 | sent |
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| 18:31.57 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it does not show polygons, but the rest is ok. |
| 18:32.21 | cr2 | the xanadux version should work with polygons. |
| 18:34.36 | goxboxlive | OK |
| 18:35.02 | goxboxlive | cr2: i havent received it yet |
| 18:35.18 | MichouX | BabelO: did you receive my pv msg ? |
| 18:35.36 | BabelO | MichouX: no nothing :( |
| 18:35.37 | cr2 | goxboxlive: @gmail ? |
| 18:35.49 | BabelO | MichouX: else ymerj.. got it also |
| 18:36.20 | MichouX | my gmail username is michoux |
| 18:36.21 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 18:38.15 | cr2 | goxboxlive: hmm. stays in mqueue |
| 18:38.20 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:40.54 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'll send you the link. gmail does not like my 1.5MB mail |
| 18:40.59 | dcordes | bbl |
| 18:45.41 | goxboxlive | cr2: and maybe in the nxt mail you can send me the link :-) |
| 18:48.31 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok. |
| 18:49.29 | cr2 | goxboxlive: sent |
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| 18:51.40 | goxboxlive | cr2: got them |
| 18:51.43 | goxboxlive | it |
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| 19:10.06 | goxboxlive | cr2: how do i see the map? |
| 19:11.03 | goxboxlive | cr2: i git it |
| 19:11.05 | goxboxlive | got |
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| 19:21.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you see the map ? |
| 19:22.08 | goxboxlive | cr2 yes |
| 19:22.33 | goxboxlive | But i dont know wich version of roadmap i am using. Probably the mainline version ithink |
| 19:23.12 | BabelO | screenshot ;) |
| 19:23.38 | goxboxlive | ok, hold on, luckely i still have vnc |
| 19:26.14 | goxboxlive | BabelO: / cr2 http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/screenies/roadmap-oslo.png |
| 19:27.32 | BabelO | look good, just miss the icons ;) |
| 19:29.40 | cr2 | yes, i'll check my own strace |
| 19:31.04 | cr2 | goxboxlive: are the labels buffered ? |
| 19:31.32 | goxboxlive | no idea |
| 19:32.18 | cr2 | it looks for /usr/share/pixmaps/rm_${icon}.png |
| 19:32.21 | cr2 | here |
| 19:32.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you magnify so the street labels are visible ? |
| 19:33.08 | cr2 | ah. mainline does not have buffering afair. |
| 19:34.33 | goxboxlive | cr2: have no idea, i have to test it later. I am still have some work to do (home office) before i play further with my toys :-) |
| 19:35.28 | cr2 | ok :) |
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| 19:37.18 | cr2 | BabelO: i have Montpellier too, but need to invent some creative pseudo-US-county number ;) |
| 19:37.57 | BabelO | cr2: but montpellier as only 3% of road :( |
| 19:38.21 | diogene31 | pH5: Hi, did you have hangs while you debugged your resume functions on your magician ? |
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| 19:39.06 | ymerejt | hi everyone |
| 19:39.11 | pH5 | hi everyone |
| 19:40.01 | pH5 | diogene31: what kind of hangs? |
| 19:40.39 | pH5 | I had hangups because it wouldn't suspend properly first, and later it hanged during resume because the pointers were not set up correctly. |
| 19:41.04 | cr2 | BabelO: you don't expect that i'll post the tomtom map ? :) |
| 19:41.08 | diogene31 | pH5: While resuming, after a certain time, irqs are disabled, and the PDA gets locked. |
| 19:41.39 | diogene31 | pH5: A certain time is between 50ms and 100ms (I mean msleep(50) is ok, msleep(100) hangs) |
| 19:41.49 | BabelO | cr2: lol :) i have the gis russa maps of montpellier |
| 19:42.13 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 19:42.56 | diogene31 | pH5: The test case I use is to put msleep in pxa_pm_finish. |
| 19:43.04 | cr2 | BabelO: but it's probably a converted metroguide. |
| 19:45.09 | pH5 | diogene31: I've never seen something like that, but then again I've never put msleep into the suspend path. Does the same happen if you use mdelay? |
| 19:46.52 | diogene31 | pH5: No, if I put mdelay it's all right. But the problem is the device drivers use msleep (typically pxa27x_udc.c does it in resume) |
| 19:48.06 | ymerejt | hi goxboxlive, |
| 19:49.08 | cr2 | diogene31: then it should be fixed ? |
| 19:49.32 | BabelO | cr2: don't know, i just see that there is high detail |
| 19:50.34 | cr2 | BabelO: i can convert your map too. |
| 19:50.39 | diogene31 | cr2: I don't think so. I read in the kernel power managment documentation that in resume you have the right to sleep (opposing to in early_resume function where you can't ...) |
| 19:50.45 | cr2 | the problem is now to name it. |
| 19:51.09 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: hi |
| 19:51.17 | ymerejt | hi men |
| 19:51.40 | ymerejt | I have pushed a hack for you on the git repository |
| 19:51.41 | cr2 | diogene31: ok, that sounds reasonable, but a working device is better than a hanging one;) |
| 19:51.59 | pH5 | diogene31: are you sure it's the msleep in udc that locks it up? |
| 19:52.01 | cr2 | ymerejt: i've completely lost track on the kernel :) |
| 19:52.22 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: thx i saw it |
| 19:52.49 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you compile the roadmap from xanadux tree ? |
| 19:52.53 | ymerejt | cr2, I don't have write access to the hh kernel and I hate work without version control so I work in my git repository |
| 19:54.05 | ymerejt | cr2, and we have a online git repository for the qtopia stuff |
| 19:54.23 | goxboxlive | cr2: i have done that allready |
| 19:54.51 | cr2 | ymerejt: it was not meant as a complaint. |
| 19:55.03 | cr2 | goxboxlive: screenshot ? :) |
| 19:55.14 | goxboxlive | cr2: not now, later :-) |
| 19:55.24 | goxboxlive | IIt looks the same i guess |
| 19:55.54 | diogene31 | pH5: Yes, I'm sure. I vibrate once before, and once after (with mdelay to calibrate the vibration). And of course the second vibrate never gets activated. |
| 19:55.57 | ymerejt | cr2, and of couse when I will have a good state I will send you a patch ... |
| 19:56.02 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it should look much better. |
| 19:56.16 | ymerejt | cr2, it's just an explanation ... |
| 19:57.04 | diogene31 | cr2: You're right, it would be better. But I fear there is something worse behind, so I wonder if somebody had the same problem before. Beside, when I put mdelay in udc, another one gets triggered later, and I get into the same situation. |
| 19:57.12 | cr2 | ok, that's why i'm happily doing other things. |
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| 20:06.21 | goxboxlive | cr2: it failes with /usr/share/pixmaps |
| 20:06.24 | goxboxlive | s## roadmap_config.c, line 733: config Polish redefined as /usr/share/roadmap/default/Polish |
| 20:07.52 | cr2 | goxboxlive: where is the second config ? |
| 20:08.12 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.14 | goxboxlive | i just created a symlink |
| 20:08.20 | goxboxlive | yes the same |
| 20:09.21 | cr2 | do you have something else in /usr/share/roadmap/default/ ? |
| 20:09.50 | goxboxlive | crt2 i moved them, and now it's ok |
| 20:09.56 | goxboxlive | But still no icons |
| 20:10.43 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.47 | goxboxlive | s** roadmap_screen_obj.c, line 471: object name is missing |
| 20:11.04 | goxboxlive | yes i moved them to /usr/share/pixmaps |
| 20:11.37 | cr2 | these are the "sprites" |
| 20:11.55 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.06 | goxboxlive | cr2: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/screenies/roadmap-oslo2-xanadux.png |
| 20:13.38 | goxboxlive | cr2: i dont have sprites |
| 20:14.53 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you zoom in the city ? |
| 20:15.04 | goxboxlive | cr2: http://pastebin.no/3074 |
| 20:15.09 | cr2 | i can even see the ferry route. |
| 20:15.16 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 20:15.26 | cr2 | copy the sprites file from source |
| 20:15.50 | cr2 | it's broken .bb file in action, that does everything wrong. |
| 20:19.47 | goxboxlive | cr2: what is this: s** roadmap_screen_obj.c, line 471: object name is missing |
| 20:20.38 | AlG1 | BabelO: I checked once again: still many keys missing. but contacts key now gives F5 keysym and calender key immediately launches gpe-calendar (before I see the key with xev). vol up/down gives XF86AudioRaise/LowerVolume. other keys keycode 0x0. |
| 20:20.52 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'm not sure. |
| 20:21.23 | goxboxlive | cr2: why do i not have the icons? |
| 20:21.57 | AlG1 | Babelo: BTW how can I configure contacts key to launch gpe-contacts, tried /etc/matchbox/kbdconfig but it doesnt help. |
| 20:22.44 | BabelO | AlG1: i don't know how gpe works :(, what are these other key which return 0 ? |
| 20:23.02 | AlG1 | camera, record, windows, mail, explorer |
| 20:23.38 | AlG1 | but they generate a input-key event |
| 20:23.50 | AlG1 | the kbbacklicht react on them |
| 20:24.07 | pH5 | AlG1: check on the console, are those keycodes > 128? |
| 20:24.09 | AlG1 | s/kbbacklicht/kbdbacklicht/ |
| 20:24.12 | goxboxlive | cr2: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/screenies/roadmap-oslo3-xanadux.png |
| 20:24.29 | pH5 | the console/keyboard driver doesn't support keycodes >128 |
| 20:24.39 | AlG1 | Babelo: how? xev says keycode=0x0 |
| 20:25.01 | pH5 | AlG1: (I mean check by dumping the raw input_event data from /dev/input/*) |
| 20:25.28 | pH5 | BabelO,AlG1: I think the app to handle launching based on keypresses is keylaunch, try /etc/keylaunchrc |
| 20:25.59 | AlG1 | ahh, yes I see. |
| 20:26.06 | BabelO | AlG1, pH5 : i think pH5 is true, those keys keycodes are up to 128 |
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| 20:26.54 | pH5 | AlG1: you can map them to values <128 in the kernel or fix kdrive+evdev driver |
| 20:26.57 | BabelO | AlG1: for example WWW is 150 |
| 20:27.02 | pH5 | of course the latter would make you more popular |
| 20:27.59 | AlG1 | :-) |
| 20:28.23 | BabelO | AlG1: so lot of thing are working on your gpe image ;) |
| 20:28.52 | AlG1 | yes, the number of working things is increasing |
| 20:29.21 | AlG1 | I have to package some of all these workarounds to put them initially in the image |
| 20:31.51 | BabelO | AlG1: i have tested GPE usb gadget config, and it works well, same for pcmcia |
| 20:32.03 | BabelO | AlG1: but did not found a good wifi monitor / setup |
| 20:32.28 | cr2 | goxboxlive: weird font size. is it the same in 2D ? |
| 20:32.57 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you run roadmap with strace and save the log ? |
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| 20:34.41 | AlG1 | Babelo: yes mb-applet-wireless is crashing and gpe-aerial id for prism cards only |
| 20:34.42 | Pryan2 | hi all |
| 20:35.14 | goxboxlive | cr2: not now, i am just about to test it on my NEO |
| 20:36.30 | BabelO | cr2: maybe ljp want to test it if he got a brisbane map ;) |
| 20:36.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok. |
| 20:37.04 | cr2 | BabelO: i'll have a look :) |
| 20:37.56 | cr2 | BabelO: hehe. have a look yourself. |
| 20:38.27 | BabelO | cr2: cr2 yep map of brisbane seem very good ;) |
| 20:38.30 | Pryan2 | cr2 kevin has done the keyboard driver but hasnt coded for athena |
| 20:38.49 | cr2 | http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.5&lon=153.0167&zoom=12 |
| 20:38.53 | Pryan2 | do you want to code and test it ? |
| 20:39.36 | cr2 | Pryan2: it's not so easy as you think. |
| 20:39.48 | Pryan2 | ahm |
| 20:40.09 | Pryan2 | well, as you see |
| 20:41.18 | cr2 | BabelO: i need to find out the tile numbers. |
| 20:41.42 | BabelO | cr2: is it a norm ? |
| 20:42.25 | cr2 | BabelO: there is some formula |
| 20:42.44 | BabelO | ok |
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| 20:59.25 | BabelO | cr2: how can i desactivate this, which option ? -Ox ? cc1: warnings being treated as errors |
| 21:00.32 | pH5 | BabelO: isn't that -Werror ? |
| 21:01.12 | BabelO | pH5: thanks, i did not see it first time i ll look ;) |
| 21:30.08 | goxboxlive | cr2: i am testing it on my NEO. Its quite accurate after all :-) |
| 21:37.13 | cr2 | lol |
| 21:37.37 | cr2 | can we make the .png icons work ? |
| 21:42.05 | goxboxlive | i dont see why we should manage that |
| 21:42.49 | goxboxlive | shouldnt i mean :-) |
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| 21:49.34 | BabelO | cr2: icons works on BA image |
| 21:51.42 | AlG1 | Babelo: I can see some garbage on /dev/input/(event1 when pressing the >128 buttons, so your patch works. |
| 21:52.14 | AlG1 | bt maybe already the asic3 button driver gave the same dev/input output |
| 21:53.19 | AlG1 | in a first shot I will try to use yet unmapped F? keycodes to map them below 128 |
| 21:53.25 | BabelO | AlG1: maybe, but better with this new patch because all is in one inputX device |
| 21:53.42 | AlG1 | yes |
| 21:53.56 | BabelO | AlG1: i ve to try your image :) |
| 21:54.36 | BabelO | AlG1: i m happy that you do all this great jobg on BA |
| 21:55.13 | AlG1 | the current state is not yet present there, I'll put a tar file there to be untarred over the new filled sdcard partition |
| 21:58.13 | AlG1 | but I'm mostly collecting the work of others (you for instance :-) |
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| 22:00.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive: will you create a new image? including the Oslo map ? |
| 22:01.36 | goxboxlive | cr2: is that allowd? I think i am the only one in Noway that use this :-/ |
| 22:01.55 | goxboxlive | cr2: the mainline version is faster, but the xanadux version looks better |
| 22:03.35 | cr2 | goxboxlive: this the map from OSM |
| 22:03.56 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:04.04 | cr2 | so it's CC-BY-SA |
| 22:04.44 | cr2 | goxboxlive: we may even create the map repository |
| 22:04.56 | cr2 | once the naming issue will be sorted out. |
| 22:06.11 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:07.40 | cr2 | Let's put Oslo as a sample demo map. |
| 22:08.23 | cr2 | the map of Brisbane is very good too. |
| 22:08.41 | cr2 | ljp: are you sleeping ? |
| 22:09.09 | BabelO | cr2: lol, for ljp 8:00 am is already the middle of the morning :) |
| 22:10.37 | cr2 | BabelO: the mainline supports OSM maps, but i didn't find any docs about it. |
| 22:10.45 | cr2 | need to check the source. |
| 22:13.10 | goxboxlive | well it's too late for me now. Have to go to bed. good night. I'm gonna test the NEO and roadmap on my way to work tomorrow. |
| 22:13.11 | ymerejt | good night everybody |
| 22:13.19 | goxboxlive | good night |
| 22:14.48 | BabelO | cr2: i think i ll contribute to OSM maps |
| 22:31.56 | BabelO | cr2: i m surprised, there is some tools to use wmobile devices under kde/gnome linux |
| 22:32.20 | cr2 | synce ? |
| 22:34.33 | BabelO | cr2: synce-trayicon / syncefs / synce-software-manager |
| 22:34.37 | BabelO | cr2: http://synce.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/synce/trunk/ |
| 22:36.24 | BabelO | cr2: i m looking at it because lot of people say it does not work |
| 22:43.27 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:49.07 | AlG1 | Babelo: if trying my image use the tar file http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/gpe-alge.tar after extracting the gpe-image tar file on top of it to get some fixes. |
| 22:49.49 | BabelO | AlG1: ok thanks :) |
| 22:52.13 | BabelO | cr2: is linux running on an ipod ? ;) |
| 22:54.30 | cr2 | i think yes. |
| 22:55.05 | cr2 | i#m not buzzword-compliant :) |
| 23:03.39 | cr2 | good night |
| 23:10.05 | paulproteus_ | Night, cr2! |
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