| 00:36.08 | paulproteus | ymerejt, The phone charging indicator works. (-: |
| 00:36.36 | ymerejt | paulproteus, ;) |
| 01:42.38 | par | which model/ |
| 01:44.22 | paulproteus | Universal |
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| 06:04.56 | goxboxlive | good morning |
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| 06:42.47 | steve56 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.41 | Hsys00-0 | hi all |
| 06:44.46 | steve56 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.06 | Hsys00-0 | I have two ppc6600 hand helds here |
| 06:45.23 | Hsys00-0 | and fairly new to the linux distros |
| 06:45.59 | Hsys00-0 | and would like to contribute time and testing on my phones |
| 06:58.02 | goxboxlive | what is ppc6600 (htc codename) |
| 06:58.13 | Hsys00-0 | codename? |
| 06:58.19 | Hsys00-0 | oooh |
| 06:58.20 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 06:58.25 | Hsys00-0 | blueangel |
| 06:58.35 | goxboxlive | ohh |
| 06:59.16 | goxboxlive | There are several other here with that device. |
| 06:59.17 | Hsys00-0 | need anymore crash test dumbs??? lol |
| 06:59.23 | Hsys00-0 | okay |
| 07:00.48 | Hsys00-0 | well, i really would like to get away from WM2003 |
| 07:01.43 | Hsys00-0 | and configure it as a multimedia device only... no phone accessability and possible only internet |
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| 07:23.06 | paulproteus | Morning, all. |
| 07:36.58 | goxboxlive | hi paulproteus |
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| 08:11.16 | goxboxlive | hmm Qtopia isent stable now. I have merged some code from ymerejt and tsdogs :-) . |
| 08:20.13 | steve56 | r7y6 |
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| 08:51.23 | paulproteus | Hmm, lpotter + ljp! |
| 08:57.33 | lpotter | multiple personality :) |
| 08:59.31 | rakeem__ | Hsys00-0: I'm with you on the BA... |
| 09:04.21 | paulproteus | lpotter, Whare are you using a daily phone, btw? |
| 09:04.54 | rakeem__ | I've got a Tornado as my normal phone. I like it a lot... |
| 09:04.57 | paulproteus | Er, I mean "What", not the non-word "Whare". |
| 09:05.24 | paulproteus | It seems all the HTC phones are more than two years old! |
| 09:05.47 | paulproteus | rakeem__, Linux or Wince? |
| 09:08.31 | rakeem__ | On the Whorenado? CE ;-( |
| 09:10.02 | paulproteus | http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/gsm.html ... |
| 09:11.29 | paulproteus | Some progress I suppose. |
| 09:12.58 | paulproteus | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FindPage?action=titlesearch&value=tornado )-: |
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| 09:14.42 | rakeem__ | Yeah, but not ready for everyday use... There's no audio so you can call but don't expect a conversation... |
| 09:15.39 | paulproteus | Yeah, I saw. )-: |
| 09:16.23 | rakeem__ | But it's a good partytrick in the pub... Watching the boot messages fly past on a 2.5 inch screen really hits home the portability of linux... |
| 09:16.27 | paulproteus | Sounds like Haret to figure out how to enable the earpiece would be useful. |
| 09:16.32 | paulproteus | Heh. (-: |
| 09:25.57 | lpotter | paulproteus: a neo and a motorola |
| 09:27.13 | paulproteus | Cool, Neo's battery life is good enough for that? |
| 09:27.24 | paulproteus | I have one of the early dev units with "one transistor too many" so I never knew sleep. |
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| 09:27.57 | lpotter | well. with lots of pulling out the battery when it doesn't wake |
| 09:29.23 | paulproteus | Mmm. |
| 09:31.38 | goxboxlive | lpotter: what motorola device? A780? |
| 09:31.44 | lpotter | l6 |
| 09:31.59 | lpotter | non linux |
| 09:34.15 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 09:35.42 | lpotter | if the greenphone would ever wake up from suspend again, I would use that too |
| 09:36.04 | goxboxlive | lpotter: buy your self a used HTC Universal on ebay, and fire up Openmoko. I think HTC Universal is the device that runs Qtopia best and most stable this days |
| 09:36.46 | goxboxlive | s/Openmoko0/Qtopia/ |
| 09:37.03 | goxboxlive | /s/Openmoko/Qtopia/ |
| 09:41.15 | lpotter | i have been thinking about it |
| 09:41.34 | ellisway | morning all |
| 09:42.34 | goxboxlive | hi ellisway |
| 09:43.26 | paulproteus | Howdy ellisway. |
| 09:43.35 | ellisway | hi goxboxlive had a weird experience with my phone yesterday |
| 09:43.44 | ellisway | hi paulproteus |
| 09:43.56 | goxboxlive | lpotter: i am using it as my daily phone now, Qtopia wakes up on incomming calll, sms and alarm |
| 09:44.14 | ellisway | after making many calls under linux without any issues 1 call was over an hour in length |
| 09:44.49 | ellisway | anyway the last call i tried to make no1 could hear me |
| 09:44.54 | rakeem__ | Gotta go and visit the outlaws... Laters dudez... |
| 09:45.00 | ellisway | as if the microphone was muted |
| 09:45.07 | lpotter | and suspends/resumes? whats the battery life like? |
| 09:45.08 | goxboxlive | ellisway: ok i c |
| 09:45.10 | goxboxlive | strange |
| 09:45.24 | paulproteus | ellisway, Sometimes that used to happen with my old operator even when I didn't fiddle with my phone. |
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| 09:45.38 | ellisway | other than that i`m not quite sure on the best way to put the device into suspend |
| 09:45.47 | paulproteus | ellisway, I just wait 30 seconds (-: |
| 09:45.58 | ellisway | ok |
| 09:46.20 | ellisway | eventually i had to reboot back to ce as i needed to make the phone call |
| 09:46.22 | goxboxlive | I use 1 min |
| 09:46.44 | ellisway | but it lasted well throughout the day |
| 09:47.15 | ellisway | i would say that yesterday my phone was running linux 75% of the time |
| 09:47.29 | goxboxlive | ellisway: i am not using my cell phone so much for dialing. I'm mostly at office during the day and using the office phone. |
| 09:47.47 | goxboxlive | Do you think the battery last as long as running wince now? |
| 09:48.22 | ellisway | because somtime my 0845 number gets redirected to me i end up on the phone for extended periods |
| 09:48.40 | paulproteus | 0845? |
| 09:49.00 | ellisway | i work for a isp in the uk |
| 09:49.28 | paulproteus | Right- 0845 is the free-of-charge number that goes to the help desk which gets forwarded to you? |
| 09:49.53 | ellisway | well not free but other than that ye |
| 09:50.20 | paulproteus | Okay. |
| 09:50.26 | paulproteus | lpotter, Battery life is about a day for me, with normal use. |
| 09:50.28 | ellisway | it gets charged as a local call |
| 09:51.22 | ellisway | i dont think the battery usage is as good as ce |
| 09:51.54 | ellisway | but i think that could also be down to the device still using the lcd |
| 09:52.04 | ellisway | just the backlight is off |
| 09:52.15 | ellisway | because the device isn`t suspended |
| 09:52.57 | paulproteus | ellisway, If you configure Qtopia to suspend it in the power settings it does suspend (and wake up on incoming call). |
| 09:53.06 | ellisway | i started yesterday my battery was around 85% |
| 09:53.22 | ellisway | end of the day it was down to around 30% |
| 09:53.57 | ellisway | thats with a 3800mah battery |
| 09:54.20 | goxboxlive | ellisway: yes, the battery issue is because you dont have suspend activated. |
| 09:54.28 | ellisway | k |
| 09:54.40 | ellisway | i`ll boot qtopia now |
| 09:54.43 | goxboxlive | I am allways using ssh so mine charges every day, so i have no clue how long it will last. |
| 09:55.56 | ellisway | other than that i think my only other issue is with the wifi driver being unstable |
| 09:56.30 | ellisway | i still get the error msg from run-parts on boot |
| 09:56.48 | goxboxlive | yes, i know. Maybe i should try to revert just the acx driver back to 2.6.16. It was more stable at that point. |
| 09:57.08 | ellisway | unrecognized option --arg=start |
| 09:58.18 | ellisway | ok so in qtopia --> settings --> power management |
| 09:58.40 | ellisway | i just change suspend from off to on ? |
| 09:59.20 | paulproteus | I say display dim at 10s and display off at 20s and suspend at 30s. |
| 09:59.28 | paulproteus | But I'm paranoid about battery life. Try that and then see. |
| 09:59.45 | paulproteus | Well I guess if I were really paranoid about battery life I'd just suspend at 10s! |
| 10:00.10 | ellisway | i have a extended battery though |
| 10:00.45 | ellisway | so dim at 30s off at 1min suspend after 3mins |
| 10:01.01 | ellisway | thats what i`ve set it 2 |
| 10:01.13 | paulproteus | Well, I would still use the above settings on the extended battery. |
| 10:01.20 | paulproteus | At least, at first! |
| 10:01.44 | paulproteus | But okay. (-: |
| 10:02.52 | paulproteus | ljp, I think you'll generally be pleased with a Uni. (-: |
| 10:03.09 | paulproteus | Maybe I'll try this wifi stuff sometime. |
| 10:05.36 | ellisway | whatsthe current status with charging |
| 10:06.22 | ellisway | does i stop charging once the battery reaches 100% |
| 10:06.25 | paulproteus | It's past 2am here so I think I'll go to sleep. |
| 10:07.08 | ellisway | have a good sleep paulproteus |
| 10:07.33 | goxboxlive | ellisway: i think it's stops charging at 100% |
| 10:07.42 | goxboxlive | at least it charges very slow at the end |
| 10:07.52 | ellisway | k |
| 10:08.11 | ellisway | i`m so looking forward to not havinf to use wince on the device |
| 10:08.26 | ellisway | and its getting very close to that now |
| 10:09.24 | ellisway | i`ve even started buying damaged universals for spare parts to make sure i always have a fully working unit |
| 10:10.36 | ellisway | i now have 3 fully functional units and not 1 of them has a g3 doc in it |
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| 10:13.11 | paulproteus | g3 doc? |
| 10:14.09 | ellisway | disk on chip |
| 10:14.34 | ellisway | the internal 128mb flash |
| 10:16.44 | ellisway | the 1st doc i played with was a 8mb doc millenium with the linuxbios project on it with a pc chips 810lmr motherboard and a 1ghz cpu |
| 10:17.01 | ellisway | thats gotta be 6/7 years ago now |
| 10:17.39 | paulproteus | Ouch, I hear PC Chips is terrible. |
| 10:18.10 | ellisway | heh was ok for its time as long as u got1 with good capacitors on it |
| 10:18.20 | paulproteus | Heh. |
| 10:18.28 | goxboxlive | We have the g3doc driver in the source now, but it isent compatible with uni yet, it was written for a 64MB DOC and not like ours 128MB. |
| 10:18.55 | goxboxlive | I think cr2 is going to check it out a lite (i hope) or maybe ymerejt lknows something about it |
| 10:19.02 | ellisway | yeh i no but even so all my units have g4 doc`s anyway |
| 10:19.08 | goxboxlive | s/lite/little/ |
| 10:19.12 | paulproteus | How can you check? |
| 10:19.31 | ellisway | i`ll keep buying parts till i come accross a good board witha a g3 chip |
| 10:19.37 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 10:19.51 | paulproteus | You know what they say: |
| 10:19.56 | paulproteus | A fool and his money are soon partying! |
| 10:20.02 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 10:20.08 | goxboxlive | :-E |
| 10:20.18 | ellisway | check the vesion of the boot loader on your device paulproteus |
| 10:21.01 | ellisway | if the bootloader is ver 1.xx then you have a g3 doc if its ver 2.xx then you have a g4 doc |
| 10:24.12 | goxboxlive | manh it's snowing here today. I think it has fall at least 30-40cm if snow |
| 10:24.56 | goxboxlive | When i drove to work today, it was quite fun driving :-) (snow rally) :-D |
| 10:27.10 | paulproteus | ellisway, Er, how do I check the bootloader version? |
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| 10:27.51 | ellisway | u can use the enterbl.exe that comes with the rom updates |
| 10:28.23 | ellisway | or theres a key combo which i cant remember but its on the wiki on xda-developers |
| 10:28.50 | paulproteus | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Resets thanks |
| 10:30.38 | paulproteus | v 2.01 )-: |
| 10:31.03 | ellisway | g4 doc |
| 10:31.05 | paulproteus | Is there a driver for the G4 DOC? |
| 10:31.49 | ellisway | all mine are the same all have v2.01 |
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| 10:32.27 | paulproteus | Is that really the right way? I read you can upgrade/downgrade the bootloader anyway. |
| 10:32.28 | ellisway | not that i no of there is as goxboxlive said some work regarding the g3 doc |
| 10:33.27 | ellisway | there was a link on the forums on xda-dev for some trueffs stuff that might be of help in making a driver |
| 10:34.19 | ellisway | trueffs being the fs used on the doc chips |
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| 10:49.00 | rakeem | THis is a first for me.... IRC on the bus.... |
| 10:49.32 | rakeem | ...under CE unfortunately.... |
| 11:07.50 | ellisway | pocketirc :) |
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| 11:17.58 | ymerejt | ~ping tsdogs |
| 11:17.58 | apt | pong tsdogs |
| 11:18.01 | ymerejt | hi everyone |
| 11:19.34 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, this night I have written an alsamixer for qtopia |
| 11:20.06 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: really :-) Does it work ? |
| 11:20.12 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, of course |
| 11:20.17 | goxboxlive | great |
| 11:20.31 | goxboxlive | did you know that ljåp allready had one simple? |
| 11:20.35 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, could you help me to integrate it (icon, launcher ...) ? |
| 11:20.45 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: of course |
| 11:21.13 | ymerejt | I have asked on this channel yersterday and nobody answer me so I writted one |
| 11:21.28 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, so what to do to integrate it ? |
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| 11:21.50 | ymerejt | I have it in a standalone directory for the moment |
| 11:22.07 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: ok, it exist one, but it's only binary , it's for the gta01. I have aksed ljp to upload the source but he hasent done it yet. |
| 11:22.35 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, now we have one with the sources |
| 11:22.36 | ymerejt | ;) |
| 11:22.39 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: could you just commit the source to devtools so i can take a update and then i send you my diff |
| 11:22.47 | goxboxlive | great. |
| 11:23.19 | ymerejt | why in the devtools ? I think it should be in application ... |
| 11:23.20 | ymerejt | no ? |
| 11:23.57 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, ??? |
| 11:24.06 | goxboxlive | Thats no problem |
| 11:24.17 | goxboxlive | put it in to applications then |
| 11:24.58 | ymerejt | I copy my directory in src/applications |
| 11:25.16 | goxboxlive | great |
| 11:25.44 | goxboxlive | did you reach test the console application yesterday? |
| 11:26.43 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, yes but I think I will see in the my current KDE4 dev checkout (I work on KDE4 sometimes too) about konsole which work with Qt4 ... |
| 11:27.20 | goxboxlive | ok, that's great. |
| 11:31.54 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, pushed ! |
| 11:33.18 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, let me know your progress status ... I want to start it from Qtopia soon ;) |
| 11:34.07 | goxboxlive | oh ymerejt i'm at work, so i have to wait until i get home.- But i see you allready have the desktop file and a pics. What do you want me to do? Test it? |
| 11:40.05 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, on sunday ? |
| 11:41.01 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: yes also yesterday. I have a lot to do now :-/ |
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| 11:42.11 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: your pro file and the desktop file says that is should install to Settings, why did you add it to Applications then? |
| 11:42.21 | rakeem | Should gsmd be pointed at ttyS0 or tty8 for GPRS on the BA? |
| 11:42.23 | ymerejt | a mistake ... |
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| 11:42.34 | rakeem | Hey ALGe... |
| 11:42.40 | rakeem | ALGe: Should gsmd be pointed at ttyS0 or tty8 for GPRS on the BA? |
| 11:42.59 | goxboxlive | Ok, i think you should move it |
| 11:44.16 | AlGe | ttyS0 |
| 11:44.32 | AlGe | pppd to ttyS8 |
| 11:47.56 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, SQL logic error or missing database Unable to fetch row |
| 11:48.00 | rakeem | Okay, so my script goes: AT string > ttyS0; gsmd -p /dev/ttyS0 -s 115200 -F; pppd stuff... Make sense? I get a ppp0 interface now, but no IP and no TX/RX bytes... Then pppd gives up and dies... I'm close, I can feel it! |
| 11:48.03 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, on make install |
| 11:48.49 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: Ok, maybe because it is in the Applications section. Move it to Settings then |
| 11:49.21 | AlGe | rakeem: you should lookg at the AT ouput in dmesg, there you should see a a CONNECT (or NO CARRIER) |
| 11:50.43 | AlGe | pppd makes only sense after CONNECT. and add the "debug" and "nodetach" option to the pppd cmdline |
| 11:52.43 | AlGe | but i'm also still struggling with this ... |
| 11:52.54 | rakeem | ALGe: Yeah, I get the CONNECT message, so that's the link layer taken care of yeah? |
| 11:53.18 | rakeem | Darn it... |
| 11:54.44 | AlGe | with debug option in pppd you should see your LCP requests and at least some LCP replies, maybe these replies are negative, but if you at least see an reply it is negotiating with the other end of the ppp line. |
| 11:55.14 | AlGe | if there are only LCP requests, it is bad (it was so in my last experiments) |
| 11:56.24 | rakeem | That's what I was just thinking, how to sniff any exchange... Cheers. Any idea what remains to be done with Kevin's SPI driver for it to work on the BA? |
| 11:56.56 | rakeem | Once these two are sorted I'll be in handheld nirvana... ;-) |
| 11:57.33 | rakeem | ...right, I wanna see some replies... Lemme check... |
| 11:57.41 | AlGe | I think we need Babelos help with the keyboard driver, I have no idea |
| 11:58.03 | rakeem | Got your image BTW, thanks... |
| 11:59.41 | AlGe | did I include gsmd? or had you to install it yourself? |
| 12:00.00 | rakeem | Aye, I'm happy to do the keyboard mapping, but last time I spoke to Kevin he said there's a little more voodoo involved as well... |
| 12:00.28 | rakeem | Not sure, I was running out of the house so I ipkg'd it just |
| 12:00.29 | rakeem | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:00.34 | rakeem | in case... |
| 12:06.29 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, doesn't work ... |
| 12:07.45 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: what? The install progress? |
| 12:07.55 | ymerejt | yup |
| 12:10.40 | goxboxlive | hmm, ok, i'll test it whe i get home. |
| 12:10.49 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, ok |
| 12:10.56 | ymerejt | I let it asis |
| 12:11.06 | ymerejt | tsdogs, are u around ? |
| 12:11.08 | goxboxlive | did you reconf it after you moved it to settings? |
| 12:11.22 | rakeem | For comparision, does unlimited GPRS for US$18 a month sound cheap? |
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| 12:11.27 | ymerejt | what do you mean by reconf ? |
| 12:11.33 | goxboxlive | reconfigure |
| 12:11.46 | ymerejt | configure -device htcuniversal ? |
| 12:11.59 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 12:12.03 | ymerejt | never ... |
| 12:12.13 | ymerejt | I don't want to rebuild all ... |
| 12:12.32 | goxboxlive | ok, i did |
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| 12:12.49 | ymerejt | "I did" ? |
| 12:12.58 | goxboxlive | i reconfigure |
| 12:14.43 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I don't want to rebuild all so I will test it later |
| 12:15.01 | ymerejt | tsdogs, I NEED YOU ! |
| 12:15.21 | goxboxlive | you dont have to. I am doing it over ssh now. I did a reconfigure, and i guess it's done when i get home. |
| 12:15.49 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, ok so let me know ... |
| 12:15.56 | goxboxlive | of course |
| 12:16.05 | rakeem | Dinner time... Bye! |
| 12:16.09 | ymerejt | ciao |
| 12:18.14 | ymerejt | pauproteus, are u around ? |
| 12:34.13 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i tested it, it starts :-) |
| 12:34.31 | ymerejt | from the application menu ? |
| 12:34.36 | ymerejt | you have an icon ? |
| 12:35.07 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: yes i have installed extra desktop icons in my image so i can play with scripts |
| 12:35.24 | goxboxlive | root@htcuniversal:/opt/Qtopia/bin$ cat sdio-umts.sh |
| 12:35.24 | goxboxlive | #!/bin/sh |
| 12:35.24 | goxboxlive | if |
| 12:35.24 | goxboxlive | pidof qalsamixer |
| 12:35.24 | goxboxlive | then |
| 12:35.24 | goxboxlive | killall qalsamixer |
| 12:35.26 | goxboxlive | else |
| 12:35.28 | goxboxlive | qalsamixer |
| 12:35.30 | goxboxlive | fi |
| 12:35.32 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 12:36.22 | ymerejt | why do you need to add this ? |
| 12:36.30 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: but it's not connected to the volume button on the side of universal |
| 12:36.38 | ymerejt | nop |
| 12:37.07 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, the volume button managing by qtopia is very strange at this time and i suspect it to change soon. |
| 12:37.20 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, It was impossible to bind it to a alsa mixer |
| 12:37.41 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i need to have it to start the application |
| 12:37.50 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 12:40.00 | goxboxlive | well i got to go. bbl |
| 12:40.37 | ymerejt | PING tsdogs |
| 12:58.23 | tsdogs | ymerejt: here |
| 13:01.41 | ymerejt | tsdogs, a little too late ;) |
| 13:03.31 | tsdogs | :) |
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| 13:15.31 | bernt | Has anyone a solution for the grey screen after resume of a blueangel? |
| 13:16.12 | bernt | (ssh ist working but no touchscreen) |
| 13:20.49 | tsdogs | bernt: babelo might have some :) |
| 13:21.52 | bernt | BabelO: Do you have some hints? |
| 13:23.08 | BabelO | bernt: it is usually due to boardid 6,, as cr2 say boardid6 have a LCD device controlled by spi for init sequence |
| 13:24.39 | ymerejt | tsdogs, I have rewritten the custom.cpp |
| 13:25.17 | ymerejt | tsdogs, are you around ? |
| 13:30.54 | tsdogs | ymerejt: ok here |
| 13:32.11 | tsdogs | ymerejt: the only thing that is there is the backlight functions ... |
| 13:32.25 | ymerejt | yes |
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| 13:32.46 | tsdogs | I changed it myself too... u seen my changes? |
| 13:33.54 | tsdogs | Actually I only removed the -1 to 519 value |
| 13:35.29 | tsdogs | s/-// |
| 13:42.55 | bernt | BabelO: ok, I have a BA with boardid 6 :-( but it is a MDA III from t-mobile which should have boardid 5 ... |
| 13:46.05 | BabelO | bernt: you see it in dmesg ? |
| 13:46.11 | tsdogs | ymerejt: what are your changes? |
| 13:46.44 | BabelO | bernt: there is a bad bad solution to solve your issue. I mean bad bad, because it does not save power |
| 13:47.24 | bernt | screensaver with opengl ;-) |
| 13:48.31 | BabelO | bernt: no, only solution is to remove gpio power down for your BA when you go to suspend mode |
| 13:48.59 | BabelO | bernt: it is in blueangel_lcd.c, funciton resume / suspend, remove reference to gpio here, and should work |
| 13:49.17 | BabelO | bernt: but it consume power only for LCD |
| 13:51.13 | ymerejt | tsdogs, I'm working on the screen power off |
| 13:52.01 | tsdogs | that means that setting backlight=0 should power off the screen ? it that's it then good :) |
| 13:53.26 | bernt | BabelO: do you mean blueangel_lcd_suspend? There are gpio calls in an 'if 0 construct' |
| 13:54.41 | ymerejt | tsdogs, I have read some part of qtopia and when it call setbrightness(0) it wants to power down the screen |
| 13:55.37 | tsdogs | that's actually what I thought too :) but setting backlight to 0 != turning off the screen. perfect. Let me know when there's a version to test. |
| 13:56.28 | tsdogs | ymerejt: u know how goxboxlive made that Qtopia-Linux.exe with the kernel and make the rootfs mounted within the image? |
| 13:56.53 | ymerejt | tsdogs, not really |
| 13:56.55 | tsdogs | I want to use my kernel now, but have no idea on what to pass to haret |
| 13:56.57 | tsdogs | ho ok |
| 13:57.48 | tsdogs | I think there's something like a initrd somehow into the exe... |
| 13:58.54 | tsdogs | ok found it :) |
| 14:06.53 | BabelO | ymerejt: suspend is already done, don t understand what you want to do |
| 14:07.31 | ymerejt | BabelO, to turn off the screen when I listen music ;) |
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| 14:11.31 | kiozen | hi |
| 14:16.54 | pH5 | BabelO: btw, what do you think about storing board ids in the global system_rev variable so that it can be seen as hardware revision in /proc/cpuinfo? |
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| 14:20.27 | ymerejt | tsdogs, it works but when the screen power on, I have the lcd flash issue |
| 14:21.06 | tsdogs | ymerejt: that should be ok. at least for now :) |
| 14:21.09 | ymerejt | tsdogs, we need to let a little time before increase the backlight |
| 14:21.26 | tsdogs | ? |
| 14:21.29 | ymerejt | tsdogs, I am on this bug for one hour ! |
| 14:21.30 | ymerejt | ;) |
| 14:21.51 | ymerejt | I comit and push it |
| 14:22.00 | tsdogs | ok |
| 14:22.30 | ymerejt | tsdogs, I have written an alsa mixer too . I pushed it this morning |
| 14:22.43 | tsdogs | i saw it :) |
| 14:23.09 | tsdogs | btw u know it there's some sort of mailing list connected to the git? |
| 14:23.29 | ymerejt | there is a RSS streams I think |
| 14:24.24 | tsdogs | ok |
| 14:24.27 | BabelO | pH5: hi, good idea, bettter that to seen this in dmesg :) |
| 14:24.29 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 14:25.56 | tsdogs | BabelO: u know which version of haret gox is using? |
| 14:26.32 | tsdogs | I do not seem to be able to loop mount the rootfs image with new kernel... |
| 14:26.41 | BabelO | tsdogs: no, but i think it is latest, now, he recompile his one version |
| 14:26.49 | BabelO | s/one/own/ |
| 14:27.17 | ymerejt | tsdogs, pushed ! |
| 14:27.23 | tsdogs | ok. It starts but it seems not even loading the kernel :( |
| 14:27.52 | BabelO | tsdogs: rootdelay ? or from the start ? |
| 14:28.28 | tsdogs | I looked inside gox haret/kernel/xxx all in one file, and I have found this cmdline: |
| 14:28.43 | tsdogs | set CMDLINE "psplash=false installprefix=qtopia.linux console=tty0 fbcon=rotate:1" |
| 14:29.29 | tsdogs | there is no root ... (I had rootdelay before, but was before when I had a ext3 partition on the SD) |
| 14:29.31 | BabelO | tsdogs: missing rootdelay=2 and root=/dev/... ? |
| 14:29.59 | BabelO | right ;) |
| 14:30.04 | tsdogs | but what shold the root be? |
| 14:30.08 | BabelO | you run from cab file |
| 14:30.23 | tsdogs | BabelO: yes, but now I want to use my own kernel... |
| 14:30.47 | tsdogs | BabelO: u think he used some sort of initrd? |
| 14:31.21 | BabelO | tsdogs: don 't know |
| 14:31.29 | tsdogs | well, I guess I'll have to wait and ask gox :) thx anyway |
| 14:31.38 | BabelO | tsdogs: you can do like before ;) |
| 14:32.10 | tsdogs | BabelO: I removed the partition now, so I only have the .img file, it's actually easyer this way... |
| 14:32.16 | BabelO | tsdogs: it use and initramfs from kevin2 , so you need to activate support in your kernel |
| 14:32.37 | tsdogs | BabelO: that's what I thought. |
| 14:32.47 | dcordes_ | hi |
| 14:32.56 | BabelO | tsdogs: once kernel auto detect initramfs at boot, it start it and i think try to mount img file as a loopback |
| 14:33.23 | tsdogs | ok, I'll check and put initramfs in the kernel |
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| 14:35.08 | tsdogs | hmm it's already enabled... it has to be something else ... but it's not such a big deal right now. |
| 14:36.22 | dcordes | ~seen x_bruno |
| 14:36.25 | apt | x_bruno <n=bruno@87.112.15.117.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 20h 24m 23s ago, saying: 'any body know how to access the protected memory areas with haret_'. |
| 14:37.13 | dcordes | ah right we can't access some address spaces on kaiser. eg uart ares |
| 14:37.28 | dcordes | any clues? |
| 14:46.10 | tsdogs | ymerejt: what are all those bin/* files in the source tree? |
| 14:58.08 | ymerejt | they come from trolltech I guess |
| 14:59.29 | ymerejt | tsdogs, read above |
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| 15:28.09 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, what I should (simple solution) to have an icon to start my alsamixer ? |
| 15:31.13 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: run this from the Qtopia depoth directory: http://pastebin.no/3025 |
| 15:31.28 | goxboxlive | shutdown.desktop is just a example |
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| 17:00.49 | AlG1 | hi, |
| 17:00.50 | AlG1 | now, after having suspend/resume working better (wrt to the resume key) I noticed that also the clock seems to sleep during suspend, it looses time, this shouldnt happen, or? |
| 17:01.05 | AlG1 | both date and hwclock are wrong |
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| 17:43.19 | bernt | AlG1: I had problems with suspend, because my BA has id 6 -> grey display. |
| 17:44.13 | AlG1 | :-( |
| 17:44.39 | bernt | with hte clock: did you look at the software or hwclock? |
| 17:44.45 | AlG1 | both |
| 17:44.48 | bernt | s/hte/the |
| 17:45.22 | AlG1 | but I'll repeat this test, to be sure |
| 17:46.25 | bernt | there must be a way to let hwclock running in suspend mode .. |
| 17:47.10 | bernt | and software clock should get its clock at resume from hwclock |
| 17:49.37 | AlG1 | in some of my early kernels I mixed the pxa and strongarm sa1100 clock, but I thougth that i corrected my config file for this ... |
| 17:51.13 | vinz0r | hi guys, is there a way to get a telnet connection with HaRET under Linux? |
| 17:52.05 | AlG1 | yes, with synce and dccm |
| 17:52.39 | vinz0r | is synce a program on itself? I'm using WM6 also... so i suppose it's not supported by SynCE, or is it, when using haret? |
| 17:53.15 | vinz0r | and what's dccm? |
| 17:53.50 | AlG1 | part of the synce suite, needed be the ppp connection that synce establishes. |
| 17:54.22 | vinz0r | alright, i found a synce-dccm package for gentoo |
| 17:54.24 | AlG1 | but, yes, synce only works with older wince, wm2003 for me on the ba |
| 17:56.04 | vinz0r | so no chance on reading out HaRET on WM6, on my linux distro? |
| 17:56.16 | BabelO | wrong, synce works for wm5 and 6 too |
| 17:56.28 | bernt | I use usbnet to connect to the linux-BA and synce to connect to then windows-BA ... |
| 17:57.25 | vinz0r | whats '-BA'? |
| 17:57.33 | bernt | blueangel |
| 17:57.36 | vinz0r | ah ;) |
| 17:58.00 | vinz0r | but, my Wizard is under WM6, can i connect to it, using synce? |
| 17:58.02 | vinz0r | and how.... |
| 17:58.18 | bernt | does haret boot your linux? |
| 17:58.19 | BabelO | yes with synce |
| 17:58.47 | vinz0r | yes, haret boots my kernel but i want to read out some memory maps, while under WM6 |
| 17:59.23 | bernt | the you could use synce-prun |
| 18:00.22 | vinz0r | but, how can i connect my phone via synce? |
| 18:00.31 | vinz0r | under rapi, it's says nothing at all... |
| 18:01.16 | BabelO | http://www.synce.org/index.php/Building_SynCE_with_Windows_Mobile_2005_support_from_SourceForge_Packages |
| 18:01.31 | BabelO | works perfect |
| 18:03.14 | vinz0r | ok thx, but i'm on WM 6... and i can see a /dev/ttyUSB0 device (being HaRET), but i can't read anything when using minicom.. |
| 18:08.05 | bernt | can you use synce for directory listing like pls? |
| 18:08.37 | vinz0r | nope, synce does not seem to see my phone at all... |
| 18:09.11 | bernt | also when haret is not started? |
| 18:09.53 | vinz0r | ah, didn't try :) |
| 18:10.43 | BabelO | vinz0r: i m on wm6 too, and it works woth odccm |
| 18:11.18 | vinz0r | odccm, what distro are you one? |
| 18:11.19 | bernt | AlG1: I dont have wrong clocks after doing apm -s and resume |
| 18:11.48 | bernt | vinz0r: I have ubuntu |
| 18:12.21 | dcordes | I also tried synce in ubuntu |
| 18:12.41 | dcordes | didn't work for me |
| 18:13.16 | bernt | AlG1: I have tried: date && hwclock -r then apm -s then resume and then date && hwclock -r again. |
| 18:14.23 | vinz0r | ok, i'll try odccm in a minute :) |
| 18:15.00 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, Attempted to assign a category id that doesn't exist in any database "Settings" |
| 18:15.24 | bernt | vinz0r: in ubuntu I dont have odccm, because I have only windows mobile 2003 not wm5 |
| 18:15.56 | bernt | so you must get it from sourceforge |
| 18:16.24 | vinz0r | ok, i'm on debian lenny, but i'll have a look as soon as my synaptic is done updating ;) |
| 18:17.22 | bernt | svn checkout https://synce.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/odccm |
| 18:17.23 | AlG1 | bernt: will try it again now (and add some time saving script to /etc/apm/*.d) |
| 18:18.48 | bernt | after ntpdate I have called hwclock -w once and it seems ok ... not tried a cold start ;-) |
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| 18:21.46 | ymerejt | ~ping goxboxlive |
| 18:21.47 | apt | pong goxboxlive |
| 18:26.40 | BabelO | welcom back cr2 :) |
| 18:39.18 | AlG1 | bernt: now I added a "hwclock -w" to the /etc/apm/suspend.d scripts and a "hwclock -s" to /etc/apm/resume.d, |
| 18:39.18 | AlG1 | now the clock stays accurate with one side effect: |
| 18:39.18 | AlG1 | after resumeing it suspends immediatly once more (cause the software clock jumps and the gpe-suspend timeout is reached), of course after a second immediate resume it stays alive. |
| 18:40.44 | AlG1 | BTW. i have the same behaviuor on my old ipaq h3660 running a very old familiar image. |
| 18:40.49 | bernt | I think you should have "hwclock -w" only once after you get the right time (ntpdate or anything else) |
| 18:41.31 | AlG1 | yes, this is not needed, but it will not sole the side effect |
| 18:41.43 | AlG1 | s/sole/solve/ |
| 18:41.51 | cr2 | hi BabelO |
| 18:42.28 | BabelO | cr2: i ve a mail to send to you ;) |
| 18:42.49 | bernt | AlG1: and when you have hwclock -w only in /etc/apm/suspend.d scripts? is there a time difference after resume? |
| 18:43.00 | cr2 | BabelO: i've almost met lamikr yesterday. it's about -20°C in central Finland :) |
| 18:43.34 | BabelO | too cold for me :) 15°C this afternoon here |
| 18:43.55 | cr2 | BabelO: almost the same here |
| 18:45.06 | BabelO | cr2: mail sent ;) |
| 18:46.16 | ymerejt | hi cr2 |
| 18:46.18 | cr2 | BabelO: something interesting happening recently ? i've read some channel logs in Helsinki airport yesterday/today while waiting for the flight. |
| 18:46.22 | cr2 | hi ymerejt |
| 18:46.49 | AlG1 | babelo: another issue: sometimes I get spurious wakeups, without touching it. just now it hinders my next timeshift experiment :-) |
| 18:47.05 | BabelO | cr2: yes, universal / qtopia support is better these days :) |
| 18:47.44 | BabelO | AlG1: if it is when you are connected to phone network it is because you receive unsolicited event |
| 18:47.48 | dcordes | cr2, welcome back and happy new year |
| 18:48.00 | BabelO | AlG1: you have to disabled them before going to sleep mode |
| 18:48.07 | cr2 | BabelO: qualcomm modem support ? |
| 18:48.17 | cr2 | hi dcordes. thanks :) |
| 18:48.20 | BabelO | cr2: yes ;) |
| 18:49.03 | AlG1 | babelo, ok, it could be this. but will it answer calls without in suspend mode? |
| 18:49.42 | cr2 | hehe. i'm still trying to manage the change from -20 to +15 ;-) |
| 18:50.10 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, thanks. that's what i've seen in the logs :) |
| 18:50.10 | BabelO | AlG1: yes |
| 18:51.15 | BabelO | cr2: yes but not able to download :) |
| 18:51.16 | ymerejt | AlG1, a lot of work remains but I use it as my daily phone now (which was my goal) |
| 18:52.54 | AlG1 | I'm hoping also to switch rather soon, |
| 18:53.06 | cr2 | BabelO: i have 160 e-mails now, and no spam ;) |
| 18:54.10 | cr2 | dcordes: is there something new about android code ? |
| 18:58.36 | AlG1 | babelo: this time it was not loosing minutes, whithout hwclock -s, the only difference was that gomunicator was not running |
| 19:03.08 | paulproteus | Good morning, everyone. |
| 19:03.19 | paulproteus | tsdogs|zzz, Hey! |
| 19:03.26 | paulproteus | Bah, I'm always asleep when you're awake. |
| 19:04.02 | kiozen | hi cr2, hope you had a nice vacation! |
| 19:04.22 | cr2 | BabelO: is i2c tracing on omap working now ? i 've read something about mmu tracing changes |
| 19:04.30 | cr2 | hi kiozen |
| 19:05.27 | cr2 | kiozen: there was almost no snow, and very cold reacently. all the lakes have 15+ cm ice cover. nice for skating though :) |
| 19:05.38 | tsdogs | paulproteus: hi |
| 19:05.42 | tsdogs | cr2: hi |
| 19:06.07 | cr2 | hi tsdogs |
| 19:06.16 | cr2 | nice to see you after a long pause. |
| 19:06.23 | kiozen | cr2: brrrrrrr, too cold for me :) I'll keep it with BabelO |
| 19:06.26 | tsdogs | yep |
| 19:07.00 | BabelO | cr2: don't know it work for me on main i2c port, but according to datasheet there is more |
| 19:07.39 | cr2 | kiozen: i've even met a guy with a "real" n560 |
| 19:08.28 | paulproteus | cr2, Welcome back! |
| 19:08.30 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.qlandkarte.org/qpesnapshot.png you can have a virtual one, too |
| 19:08.57 | paulproteus | tsdogs, So, can I help you by explaining git merging? |
| 19:09.07 | paulproteus | It's actually very easy, and that's the big reason to maintain your own branch. |
| 19:09.23 | tsdogs | paulproteus: sure I'd really like to understand all this branching stuff :) |
| 19:09.37 | paulproteus | tsdogs, Okay, have you made some changes and do you have local commits? |
| 19:09.56 | tsdogs | unless you get failed merges, then you really need to fix files :( |
| 19:10.22 | tsdogs | paulproteus: not really I merged new changes from main branch. |
| 19:10.23 | paulproteus | tsdogs, That's true, so rebase early and rebase often. (-: |
| 19:10.45 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, looks nice. it seems i need to catch up with a lot of things. |
| 19:10.57 | tsdogs | paulproteus: How can I keep track on when changes are committed to some branches? is there a mailing list or something? |
| 19:11.17 | paulproteus | tsdogs, There's only an RSS feed for now. |
| 19:11.28 | tsdogs | paulproteus: ok |
| 19:12.19 | paulproteus | Would you like something more? Just be specific and I can probably do it. |
| 19:12.51 | paulproteus | ljp, More broken Qtopia snapshots BTW - ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots |
| 19:13.47 | tsdogs | paulproteus: what I really need is understanding the difference about fetch merge pull and if universal gets the changes from the single snapshots and so on. |
| 19:14.00 | paulproteus | Okay: |
| 19:14.12 | paulproteus | 1. fetch just downloads the latest revisions into the .git/ directory; it doesn't do anything with them. |
| 19:14.24 | paulproteus | 2. "pull" means "fetch + merge" |
| 19:14.56 | tsdogs | paulproteus: ok |
| 19:14.58 | paulproteus | 3. "merge" means merge the latest changes in our local copy of the remote branch into the current branch |
| 19:15.22 | tsdogs | the remote branch is the --trak one right? |
| 19:15.25 | paulproteus | Yup. |
| 19:15.37 | tsdogs | now I need to know how to do one thing: |
| 19:15.49 | paulproteus | BTW, "git rebase" is actually better than "merge". |
| 19:16.15 | tsdogs | suppose I fskx some file which I want to be aligned again to the remote version. |
| 19:16.38 | tsdogs | with cvs/svn I remove the file and then do cvs up and file is restored. |
| 19:16.46 | tsdogs | How do I do that with git? |
| 19:17.01 | paulproteus | tsdogs, Oh, I see - just remove your local changes version. |
| 19:17.17 | paulproteus | I think I know the answer, but let me double check by trying it. |
| 19:18.07 | tsdogs | yes, revert, or suppose I do some changes and somebody else changes (ymerejt) are better ones... :) |
| 19:18.32 | paulproteus | BTW, you won't have to do things this way if you collaborate with git: |
| 19:18.52 | tsdogs | paulproteus: like? work on the same file? |
| 19:19.07 | paulproteus | If you make a change and push it to your branch, and then ymerejt merges that change to his and makes a change on top of it, then pulling ymerejt's changes back means "fixing your fix" so git will handle it right for you. |
| 19:20.53 | tsdogs | that's logical, and should not happen, but I often do tests and change files which don't really need to be changed for some particular thing |
| 19:21.34 | tsdogs | thus I have created an experimental branch locally. (which seems to be a double for me, as tsdogs bransh should be my experimental branch :) |
| 19:22.51 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 19:23.01 | paulproteus | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Qtopia - Step 7 |
| 19:23.06 | paulproteus | I just tested that and it works. |
| 19:23.23 | tsdogs | so I think that knowing how to do something like commit this changes and then return all other files to remote version whould be what I need |
| 19:24.34 | tsdogs | paulproteus: ok I'll try it next time. thx |
| 19:24.46 | paulproteus | tsdogs, Okay, cool. |
| 19:25.17 | tsdogs | paulproteus: is there some command to do it for not committed changed files? |
| 19:25.27 | paulproteus | tsdogs, "git commit" vs "git commit -a" |
| 19:25.44 | paulproteus | As for the qtopia snapshots - no, the htcuniversal branch doesn't automatically get the updates, but I tried merging in the changes in the 4.3.1-snapshot branch and it was super easy. |
| 19:25.52 | paulproteus | However there have been no changes since Dec 18! |
| 19:25.56 | tsdogs | I thought that git commit -a will commit all the changed files. |
| 19:26.03 | paulproteus | Yes - and "git commit" will not. |
| 19:26.57 | tsdogs | ok, let me rephrase... I whould like git to remove all my locally changed files which where not committed |
| 19:27.14 | paulproteus | *oh*! |
| 19:27.22 | paulproteus | git checkout -f branch_name |
| 19:27.46 | paulproteus | Er, not quite that, let me check. |
| 19:27.48 | tsdogs | ok good. that's about all I hope :) |
| 19:27.56 | tsdogs | thx |
| 19:28.49 | paulproteus | Okay, "git checkout -f $branch" will remove all modifications to files git *is* tracking, but it will not remove stray files that git is *not* tracking. |
| 19:29.41 | tsdogs | like local Makefiles which are in .git/info/ignore or whatever... |
| 19:30.16 | paulproteus | I think so, yeah. |
| 19:30.46 | tsdogs | ok I'll try it (whith a backup copy of my changes :) |
| 19:31.07 | tsdogs | bbl |
| 19:31.12 | paulproteus | Great (-: |
| 19:31.30 | cr2 | ymerejt: what is the current ak4641 status ? |
| 19:32.11 | ymerejt | cr2, do you have the ak4641 doc ? |
| 19:32.50 | ymerejt | cr2, not perfect ... |
| 19:33.40 | cr2 | ymerejt: yes, i have a doc. i may even implement the missing mixer switches and bars |
| 19:33.41 | ymerejt | cr2, but a little better since last week but I need the documentation |
| 19:33.59 | ymerejt | cr2, If you want to do it ... DO IT ;) |
| 19:34.22 | cr2 | http://www.handhelds.org/platforms/hp/ipaq-hx47xx/ak4641.pdf |
| 19:34.26 | ymerejt | cr2, anyway, if you could send me ... |
| 19:34.35 | ymerejt | I will not finish my sentence |
| 19:35.12 | cr2 | i've reimplemented some i2c reg codes in htcuniversal_ak4641.c |
| 19:35.23 | cr2 | so it's mainly a copy-paste job. |
| 19:36.03 | cr2 | the "real" problem is to decouple the pxa-i2s control from the mixer controls. |
| 19:36.41 | ymerejt | cr2, switch to the new alsa soc architecture would be great |
| 19:36.48 | cr2 | and to write some qtopia usespace code to control the 15+ switches, and 2 digital inputs. |
| 19:36.59 | cr2 | you think so ? |
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| 19:38.05 | cr2 | imho, the problem is not the ak4641 itself. it is 100% understood. it's some current kernel code, and the kernel-qtopia interaction. |
| 19:38.24 | ymerejt | the qtopia sound managing is strange and not stable I think |
| 19:38.50 | ymerejt | there was a bug when you plug a headset |
| 19:39.47 | ymerejt | the switch didn't work and sound looked dead ... |
| 19:40.01 | ymerejt | I guess you know about this issue |
| 19:40.27 | ymerejt | cr2, read above |
| 19:41.12 | cr2 | ok, i can explain you the situation. |
| 19:41.27 | cr2 | the current code comes from hx4700 |
| 19:41.57 | cr2 | it uses mono2 speaker output |
| 19:42.14 | cr2 | and no phone/bt stuff |
| 19:42.46 | cr2 | audio path switching is done in an HP irq handler |
| 19:43.19 | ymerejt | cr2, yes I've seen it |
| 19:43.32 | cr2 | i've changed it to support stereo-line pre-amp speaker |
| 19:43.48 | cr2 | and the mono-out/aux-in for the phone. |
| 19:44.02 | cr2 | but the rest remains as in the original code. |
| 19:44.27 | cr2 | if i'll implement all the alsa kernel swiches |
| 19:45.09 | cr2 | you need to enable/disable 5-10 switches in qtopia code in order to enable/switch the audio path. |
| 19:45.39 | cr2 | and we completely ignore the At@AUDIOPATH |
| 19:46.07 | cr2 | i guess it's some big-brother qualcomm control stuff |
| 19:46.29 | ymerejt | cr2, that's what I was thinking too |
| 19:46.38 | cr2 | it may be a good idea to redirect it to /dev/null too. |
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| 19:47.07 | cr2 | we have gathered some wince stats long time ago. |
| 19:48.01 | cr2 | the weird asic3 gpioa1 doesn't affect the normal sound operation, it seems. |
| 19:48.29 | cr2 | btw, do you know if the uni has the i2c rtc ? |
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| 19:49.44 | ymerejt | no but the RTC clock seems to work and I successfully use it with atd ... |
| 19:50.02 | bernt | AlG1: Is there an automatic way for creating missing .pc files for configure? |
| 19:50.02 | bernt | I have installed the libraries and *-dev with ipkg, but configure complains ... |
| 19:52.07 | cr2 | ymerejt: it's the pxa27x rtc, but the wince kernel has i2c rtc control code. |
| 19:52.56 | cr2 | ymerejt: htc sable aka ipaq6915 has a real i2c rtc chip, and we have identified it. |
| 19:53.54 | ymerejt | cr2, ok I didn't worked on it ... |
| 19:54.34 | cr2 | it's maybe the last hw puzzle on uni. |
| 19:55.15 | AlG1 | bernt: dont know, but maybe these files only did not find there way into the ipkgs and stay still in the oe work dir? |
| 19:56.24 | bernt | perhaps, but now i search gtk/gtk.h .. |
| 19:56.49 | bernt | this was not complained by configure ... |
| 19:56.52 | AlG1 | you are bulding directly on the ba? |
| 19:57.04 | bernt | Yes ;-) |
| 19:57.13 | AlG1 | why not |
| 19:57.34 | ymerejt | bernt, on a sdcard ? |
| 19:57.43 | pH5 | hi cr2, do you know what is at phys 0x0d000000 on blueangel? |
| 19:58.25 | bernt | AlG1: cross compiling gomunicator on ubuntu gave some problems with gtk ... |
| 19:58.43 | cr2 | hi pH5 |
| 19:58.46 | bernt | ymerejt: sure with 2 GB ;-) |
| 19:58.49 | cr2 | 0x0d ? |
| 19:58.55 | ymerejt | ;) |
| 19:59.57 | bernt | I was unsure if a 4 GB would work ... |
| 20:00.14 | AlG1 | bernt: do u use oe for crosscompiling? |
| 20:00.26 | cr2 | pH5: where do you pick it? it's between asic3 gpio and sdio ? |
| 20:01.02 | bernt | AlG1: I use only ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=arm-none-eabi |
| 20:01.03 | pH5 | cr2: yes, in the beginning of the wince kernel 0x14 and 0x18 are accessed there. it looks like pasic3 on magician (32bit), but pasic2 is connected via 16bit at 0x11 it seems. |
| 20:01.41 | bernt | AlG1: like for kernel compiling ... |
| 20:02.04 | AlG1 | setting up oe may be a sligth amount of work, but once it is done everything gets rather esay |
| 20:02.16 | AlG1 | s/esay/easy/ |
| 20:02.26 | pH5 | my problem is until now I failed to light up a led with code uploaded to the htc bootloader. neither asic3 nor pasic2 react like I'd expect. |
| 20:02.58 | cr2 | pH5: vibra is on asic3 ? |
| 20:03.17 | bernt | AlG1: do you have a download/svn link? |
| 20:03.43 | cr2 | GPIOB9 |
| 20:03.55 | pH5 | yes. I've written to the output level and direction bits, but nothing happens :/ |
| 20:04.02 | AlG1 | bernt: there is some wiki page on openembedded.org ... |
| 20:04.48 | cr2 | pH5: strange. |
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| 20:05.20 | pH5 | unfortunately I don't have any reference code as the bootloader itself doesn't seem to fiddle with leds/vibra at all. |
| 20:05.48 | AlG1 | bernt: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 20:06.11 | bernt | I have found it ;-) |
| 20:07.10 | cr2 | pH5: how does the hx4700 bootldr deal with asic3 ? |
| 20:08.58 | AlG1 | bernt: it mainly boils down to setup montone and bitbake + checking out the montone tree of bitbake files, edit some configuration files and start building (which begins with bootstrapping all the tools needed) |
| 20:09.46 | bernt | I have done it once fore openmoko ... takes a long time ... |
| 20:11.20 | AlG1 | starting from scratch, yes ( 2 days for me), but then you change things only incrementally |
| 20:13.06 | pH5 | cr2: I think it doesn't set it up at all, it only needs to handle the resume cases. |
| 20:14.16 | cr2 | pH5: ok, then it's probably necessary to pick the code from asic3_base directly. |
| 20:16.04 | paulproteus | ljp, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8691 - this is out of date for Qtopia 4? |
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| 20:21.02 | goxboxlive | mediaplayer rally mess up the incomming sound alert |
| 20:22.31 | cr2 | goxboxlive: hi. qtopia simply needs a much better sound path control ;) |
| 20:23.35 | goxboxlive | cr2: hi, wb. Yes absolutly. |
| 20:23.47 | goxboxlive | cr2: i have added roadmap to the new qtopia image. |
| 20:24.13 | cr2 | goxboxlive: for the uni ? |
| 20:24.47 | cr2 | goxboxlive: is it easy to add new maps ? you use the xanadux source ? |
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| 20:29.07 | goxboxlive | cr2: no, i couldnt start the xanadux version, but tsdogs helped me compiled them. |
| 20:29.31 | goxboxlive | But i have the binaries if you want them |
| 20:29.36 | cr2 | ok. do you have 'buildus' ? |
| 20:29.46 | goxboxlive | thewhat is that? |
| 20:30.01 | cr2 | the indexing app for adding new maps to the index. |
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| 20:30.12 | goxboxlive | no |
| 20:30.27 | goxboxlive | I tried out the maps you gave me over south Norway, but they didnt work. |
| 20:30.58 | x_bruno | hello |
| 20:31.03 | cr2 | yes, there is some binary incompatibility. |
| 20:31.13 | goxboxlive | I also tested out some other gps stuff in Qtopia, here is the link: http://www.medieninf.de/qmapcontrol/ |
| 20:31.19 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:31.31 | cr2 | tsdogs: still here ? |
| 20:31.58 | goxboxlive | cr2: i guess you have been to finland now, and have got some lapin kulta :-) I'm drinking one right now, it's real good beer |
| 20:32.28 | x_bruno | hey dcordes |
| 20:32.50 | x_bruno | cr2: any news on the kaiser side of things? |
| 20:33.07 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i think the M program by kiozen will be more useful for such raster apps. |
| 20:33.18 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:33.21 | cr2 | x_bruno: i've just back from the vacation |
| 20:33.44 | cr2 | goxboxlive: how is the weather in Oslo ? |
| 20:33.56 | goxboxlive | -1 and snow |
| 20:33.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i prefer bavarian beer :) |
| 20:34.14 | x_bruno | сr2, me 2 |
| 20:34.20 | x_bruno | 15 degrees and sunny |
| 20:34.21 | goxboxlive | ok, :-) It started to snow yesterday |
| 20:35.07 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok, it was similar in Helsinki, but much more colder further to the north. |
| 20:35.18 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:35.37 | cr2 | kiozen: are you here ? |
| 20:36.08 | goxboxlive | i am going to test the xanadux version of roadmap again,. |
| 20:37.44 | cr2 | goxboxlive: xanadux version has full "garmin"-style skin support |
| 20:37.49 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:38.32 | pH5 | cr2: everything's fine, I'm just stupid. (forgot the 0x8fb -> 0xafb translation *again*) |
| 20:39.21 | tsdogs | cr2: here :) |
| 20:39.36 | pH5 | with the magic blue debugging led I should somehow get the kernel to boot |
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| 20:40.53 | cr2 | pH5: you are using ioremap_nocache ? i still don't get the "real-world" difference. |
| 20:41.39 | cr2 | tsdogs: how do we sync the xanadux roadmap tree with the mainline ? |
| 20:41.42 | pH5 | cr2: no, I'm writing the ba blob to inject into the bootloader to boot a kernel via usb. |
| 20:42.04 | cr2 | tsdogs: have you seen the qlandkarteGT and M by kiozen ? |
| 20:42.07 | pH5 | (that is absolutely essential for my motivation, which is easily killed by the long wince2003 reboot-haret-bootlinux cycles) |
| 20:42.21 | tsdogs | cr2: for the gui part there is not much work to do, but I have no idea for the buildmap part. |
| 20:42.24 | x_bruno | guys, is there any app to send at commands to the phone? |
| 20:42.28 | cr2 | pH5: ok, i agree. the 2003 is a real PITA ;) |
| 20:42.37 | tsdogs | cr2: yes :) |
| 20:42.38 | cr2 | x_bruno: cu ? |
| 20:42.41 | x_bruno | not using the comms cable |
| 20:42.49 | x_bruno | i mean directly from the phone |
| 20:43.13 | cr2 | tsdogs: i have 1 small problem with multiple images in 1 layer. |
| 20:43.15 | x_bruno | thanks cr2 |
| 20:43.18 | cr2 | x_bruno: in wince ? |
| 20:43.22 | x_bruno | yes |
| 20:43.38 | cr2 | x_bruno: hmm. it's not easy. |
| 20:43.43 | tsdogs | cr2: images? |
| 20:44.01 | tsdogs | cr2: gg eat now, bbl |
| 20:44.14 | cr2 | x_bruno: because it's implemented wildly different for different wince devices |
| 20:44.22 | cr2 | tsdogs: .tiff files. |
| 20:44.34 | goxboxlive | cr2: the xanadux versions starts on universal. It just needed libpopt |
| 20:44.52 | x_bruno | cr2: i see, but nobody though of doing some sort of app like that? |
| 20:44.53 | goxboxlive | also roadmap |
| 20:45.15 | x_bruno | quite sure some crazy guy wipped it out and has it stached in his arsenal |
| 20:46.18 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the funny thing is that the current mainline code get rid of popt . |
| 20:46.33 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 20:47.08 | goxboxlive | cr2: http://pastebin.no/3029 |
| 20:47.10 | cr2 | x_bruno: it's difficult to do it portably. and wince way is PITA anyway. |
| 20:47.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it's the map format problem ? |
| 20:47.55 | cr2 | Cannot open any database directory. The Map.Path preferences item must point at map files and the master index file. |
| 20:48.02 | goxboxlive | no, it's when i start roadmap.xana version |
| 20:48.07 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 20:48.12 | cr2 | goxboxlive: what is your Map.Path ? |
| 20:48.53 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i always put maps in ~/.roadmap/maps |
| 20:49.25 | cr2 | you need the maps (uscXXXXX.rdm) and the map index file (usdir.rdm) there |
| 20:50.17 | dcordes | aye |
| 20:50.23 | goxboxlive | ok, done that , now, this is the new output: http://pastebin.no/3030 |
| 20:50.24 | dcordes | x_bruno, good to see you |
| 20:50.36 | dcordes | I've fallen asleep yesterday when you pinged me on msn |
| 20:50.54 | x_bruno | hey dcordes |
| 20:51.08 | dcordes | x_bruno, were you able to read uart memory space yet? |
| 20:51.13 | x_bruno | any news on haret and the protected memory zones? |
| 20:51.40 | x_bruno | na, you would need haret with changes to do that |
| 20:51.51 | x_bruno | or there is probably a way which i don't know |
| 20:52.24 | dcordes | ah wait...I consulted Kevin on the issue. wait I will check logs |
| 20:52.39 | goxboxlive | cr2: do you know what the problem with the map? |
| 20:52.54 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes, it's the binary incompatibility in the map |
| 20:53.09 | goxboxlive | cr2: How do i fix it? |
| 20:53.12 | x_bruno | cr2: what is PITA? |
| 20:53.19 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i used full 32bit offsets for the polygons. |
| 20:54.08 | goxboxlive | cr2: could you make me a new one that will work with qtopia? |
| 20:54.22 | cr2 | x_bruno: you need to fight with TAPI over the control of the phone line, there are stupid m$ "security" things, and a lot of such stuff is implemented as the RIL_DevSpecific() calls. |
| 20:54.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: let's talk to tsdogs about the solution. |
| 20:55.11 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:55.12 | x_bruno | thanks cr2 |
| 20:56.17 | dcordes | x_bruno, can't find it must have been 2007 |
| 20:56.50 | x_bruno | no problem |
| 20:57.37 | dcordes | I'm sure he had some hint on reading it |
| 20:58.21 | dcordes | cr2, htckaiser and take over control by haret: was that a problem or did we sort it is just framebuffer specific? |
| 20:59.20 | goxboxlive | cr2: I get the same message with the mainline version. |
| 20:59.50 | goxboxlive | cr2: if you want to test it i have uploaded a new image: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/O.P.I.E-II/ |
| 21:02.35 | x_bruno | ps> does anyone know why recorded video is so framed in the kaiser? it sucks |
| 21:02.38 | cr2 | goxboxlive: did you add the buildus ? |
| 21:02.48 | cr2 | dcordes: which fb problem ? |
| 21:03.00 | goxboxlive | cr2: no |
| 21:03.11 | goxboxlive | can i build it with OE= |
| 21:03.12 | goxboxlive | ? |
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| 21:05.59 | goxboxlive | BabelO: what is this? the .pro file exists. http://pastebin.no/3031 |
| 21:06.55 | dcordes | cr2, when I try to boot linux-msm images display does not turn black as usual but freezes with wince content. we talked about that before but I don't remember what that was |
| 21:07.16 | BabelO | goxboxlive: this was in thirdparty before i think |
| 21:07.40 | dcordes | if we can't boot we can't test drivers so bluetooth/usb driver would be nonsense right now |
| 21:07.56 | goxboxlive | BabelO: hmm why do i have that problem now? I checked out a new git tree today |
| 21:08.48 | x_bruno | well, you guys have fun, have russian assignment to deliver tomorrow |
| 21:08.55 | dcordes | cr2, I talked to swetland about usb: He said usb in msm7200 vs msm7200A is very different so their drivers won't work and he said there will soon be SD driver, they just had to coke with legel issues |
| 21:08.55 | x_bruno | hasta la vista |
| 21:09.09 | dcordes | x_bruno, bye |
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| 21:16.28 | cr2 | dcordes: interesting. |
| 21:17.21 | cr2 | dcordes: ok, so if there is no usb, BT is our only chance to communicate with the device. i think there is no chance to write an UDC driver from scratch. |
| 21:18.05 | dcordes | ok. but before we should sort the take over problem |
| 21:21.21 | bernt | AlG1: I get the following errors: |
| 21:21.21 | bernt | DISTRO 'angstrom-2007.1' not found. Please set a valid DISTRO in your local.conf |
| 21:21.21 | bernt | Which value should I use? |
| 21:21.52 | AlG1 | i'll look, wait |
| 21:22.40 | dcordes | bernt, that's my distro line |
| 21:22.41 | dcordes | DISTRO= "angstrom-2007.1" |
| 21:23.22 | bernt | like me, but bitbake wont do a bitbake nano |
| 21:23.47 | AlG1 | I'll just generating a mtn diff over my tree, I can copy it then to my images |
| 21:23.52 | dcordes | works fine here: maybe 2007.1 was dropped in the latest metadata |
| 21:23.53 | dcordes | let me pull |
| 21:24.23 | pH5 | bernt: a) that's an issue for #oe or #angstrom, b) 2007.12 c) it's gone from .dev but now lives in the org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable branch |
| 21:24.58 | bernt | On my BA I have: Angstrom 2007.11RC3 |
| 21:25.12 | pH5 | bernt: the info was on the angstrom-devel mailing list, but I guess the OE GettingStarted instructions have to be updated. |
| 21:25.16 | AlG1 | my local.conf also has DISTRO = "angstrom-2007.1" |
| 21:25.37 | AlG1 | but I didnt mtn update-db for some days |
| 21:25.44 | dcordes | AlG1, tehn our metadata is outdated |
| 21:26.38 | dcordes | cr2, do you have any clue about the take over thing? |
| 21:26.55 | pH5 | bernt: on org.openembedded.dev you can use angstrom-2008.1 for the unstable stuff, or you switch to the stable mtn branch. |
| 21:27.25 | AlG1 | look what org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/angstrom-200* you have |
| 21:28.17 | bernt | Ok, now I get: Please set TARGET_ARCH directly, or choose a MACHINE or DISTRO that does so. |
| 21:28.17 | cr2 | dcordes: it's some problem with the MDDI/MDP update |
| 21:29.13 | AlG1 | bernt: put MACHINE = "htcblueangel" in conf/local.conf |
| 21:29.14 | bernt | AlG1: I have: |
| 21:29.14 | bernt | org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1-legacy.conf org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf |
| 21:29.33 | AlG1 | well then try using 2008.1 |
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| 21:29.50 | dcordes | cr2, so we have to work this out in the kernel? |
| 21:30.23 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. but i guess the BT may be easier. |
| 21:30.39 | dcordes | cr2, so you think the boot process works? |
| 21:31.13 | cr2 | dcordes: we need to recheck the DMOV channel allocation. |
| 21:31.25 | cr2 | yes, it works, but there are many other issues. |
| 21:31.48 | dcordes | ok. in relation with bluetooth comes to mind that I don't see uart irqs on watch irqs |
| 21:32.09 | tsdogs | cr2: back |
| 21:33.35 | bernt | AlG1: ok now bitbake scans 4979 files ... |
| 21:34.46 | dcordes | cr2, what is DMOV? |
| 21:35.32 | AlG1 | bernt: if the 2008.1 branch is too bleeding edge we should consider the org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable tree |
| 21:36.22 | bernt | what files shell I change? |
| 21:36.52 | bernt | but I could try it on a secand SD-Card ;-) |
| 21:37.27 | cr2 | tsdogs: qlandkarteGT does not like if the .tiff files in one layer have different m/pix values. |
| 21:37.43 | AlG1 | bernt: I think we get the 2007.12 stabel tree with |
| 21:37.43 | AlG1 | mtn -d OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable |
| 21:38.00 | cr2 | tsdogs: at least it was this way on 26 Dec when i#ve last tried it. |
| 21:38.21 | tsdogs | cr2: I've only seen it but never tryed it though :/ |
| 21:38.56 | cr2 | tsdogs: it's very fast (to my big surprise) |
| 21:39.21 | cr2 | tsdogs: the m/pix is obviusly not an issue for those who use google :) |
| 21:39.31 | tsdogs | :) |
| 21:40.30 | dcordes | cr2, I can't find dmov on google |
| 21:40.31 | cr2 | but it's a problem for the hand-scanned maps. |
| 21:40.50 | cr2 | dcordes: in the linux-msm tree ? |
| 21:41.39 | dcordes | ah git grep helps. arch/arm/mach-msm/datamover.c ? |
| 21:41.52 | cr2 | tsdogs: kiozen uses the official imagery, so its m/pix is also fixed. that#s why he didn't get this problem. |
| 21:41.57 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. |
| 21:42.14 | dcordes | what's the problem with it? do we need it for bt? or generally |
| 21:43.02 | cr2 | tsdogs: we have a binary map incompatibility with the roadmap mainline, because of the 24bit polygon offset hack there. how can we deal with it ? |
| 21:43.02 | tsdogs | cr2: what exactly are u trying to do with it? creating a raster? |
| 21:43.22 | cr2 | dcordes: we need it for BT. and in general too- |
| 21:43.42 | tsdogs | cr2: I have 0 knowledge on how the map file is. |
| 21:43.59 | tsdogs | cr2: is that hack something for too many points? |
| 21:43.59 | cr2 | tsdogs: no, to use multiple scanned tiles in one layer. |
| 21:44.13 | cr2 | tsdogs: for too many lines. |
| 21:44.16 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:45.07 | tsdogs | cr2: actually mainline works event with our maps (though they are not displayed very well) |
| 21:45.30 | tsdogs | our version is not compatible with mainline maps :( |
| 21:45.45 | tsdogs | compatible = raises an error. |
| 21:47.33 | tsdogs | the problem of gox was exactly this incompatibility . |
| 21:47.45 | cr2 | tsdogs: i get an error on polygon data reading |
| 21:48.00 | tsdogs | even with our maps? |
| 21:48.08 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:48.38 | tsdogs | on x86 too? |
| 21:49.15 | cr2 | hmm. x86_64 |
| 21:49.34 | cr2 | but x86 should have this problem too. |
| 21:49.37 | tsdogs | ok. then I'll try find out why, it wasn't there before :( |
| 21:49.52 | tsdogs | actually I develop on x86_64 :) |
| 21:49.54 | cr2 | i use one more byte per polygon array element. |
| 21:51.28 | tsdogs | cr2: I do not have this problem on mine ... |
| 21:52.32 | cr2 | ok, i'll update to the latest CVS |
| 21:52.35 | tsdogs | but it does that on qtopia, so I guess it's some incompatibiliy |
| 21:55.23 | dcordes | cr2, do you have enough information on DMOV in 7200 vs DMOV in 7200A? |
| 22:00.38 | tsdogs | cr2: yes commit changes, so I'll try to resync to mainline |
| 22:01.00 | cr2 | dcordes: we don't have any documentation |
| 22:01.03 | cr2 | tsdogs: ? |
| 22:01.14 | pH5 | ok, I can jump into the kernel, but it hangs somewhere. I'm missing guess proper asic3/w3200 setup. |
| 22:01.46 | BabelO | pH5: which kernekl ? |
| 22:01.56 | tsdogs | cr2: sorry no changes from you :| |
| 22:02.50 | pH5 | huh. did I really type that? my self-percieved and actual grammar skills diverge :) |
| 22:02.52 | pH5 | time for bed. |
| 22:03.07 | pH5 | BabelO: still 2.6.23 (mobile-linux work), but now I'm trying to boot from the bootloader |
| 22:03.31 | BabelO | -+ |
| 22:03.34 | BabelO | oups :) |
| 22:03.44 | BabelO | pH5: ok, so we still miss the mmc issue |
| 22:11.21 | BabelO | pH5: where is your work about bootloader ? |
| 22:11.35 | pH5 | BabelO: git.linuxtogo.org |
| 22:11.57 | BabelO | pH5: ok thx |
| 22:12.26 | pH5 | I hope I'll get a little better understanding of ASIC3 and the driver while I try to set it up without wince's help. |
| 22:12.56 | pH5 | good night |
| 22:12.57 | BabelO | pH5: i hope too, maybe time for me to try g3.c driver |
| 22:13.05 | BabelO | pH5: good night |
| 22:13.12 | pH5 | BabelO: yes :) |
| 22:14.05 | tsdogs | cr2: I have tryed with qtopia, and updating maps and Polish it works (somehow) |
| 22:14.23 | tsdogs | cr2: the polygon stuff seems to come from mainline maps... |
| 22:15.01 | tsdogs | cr2: I don't think that the Map.Path value works with xanadux version. |
| 22:16.47 | dcordes | cr2, can we work around the problem with wince disassembly and is there anything I can contribute? |
| 22:37.27 | ljp | paulproteus: i think so |
| 22:38.08 | ljp | paulproteus: out of date for qtopia 4, that is |
| 22:42.32 | tsdogs | ljp: hi |
| 22:42.53 | tsdogs | ljp: u know when screen rotation will be available for qtopia? |
| 22:43.36 | ljp | might be in this weeks snapshots. |
| 22:43.53 | ljp | depending on where the changes get placed |
| 22:44.16 | tsdogs | ljp: ok thx :) |
| 22:46.37 | tsdogs | ljp: is anybody working on some king of file manager on qtopia? |
| 22:47.18 | ljp | not that I know of |
| 22:48.53 | tsdogs | u think it would be useful? |
| 22:49.08 | ljp | of course |
| 22:49.14 | tsdogs | :) ok |
| 22:53.17 | ljp | you going to write one? |
| 22:53.42 | tsdogs | well, still looking, also checking advancedfm from opie |
| 22:54.16 | tsdogs | ljp: but I'll have a shot at it |
| 22:54.28 | tsdogs | any suggestions? |
| 22:55.08 | tsdogs | ljp: btw is there a way to make a long click make a popup menu in qtopia? |
| 22:55.34 | tsdogs | if might be useful for people with touchscreen. |
| 23:00.31 | cr2 | tsdogs: back to roadmap :)= |
| 23:00.38 | cr2 | tsdogs: qt_main.cc:282: Warnung: deprecated conversion from string constant to »char*« |
| 23:00.51 | cr2 | should we replace all these with const char * ? |
| 23:01.27 | cr2 | 'could not load any class' |
| 23:01.37 | cr2 | the canvas is filled with trash |
| 23:01.41 | tsdogs | cr2: polish missing? |
| 23:02.35 | cr2 | what is the search path ? |
| 23:02.53 | cr2 | i had to do a full suse reinstall recently ;) |
| 23:02.57 | tsdogs | cr2: no idea, comes from qt version... |
| 23:03.19 | tsdogs | usr/local/share/roadmap/default/Polish / All |
| 23:03.30 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 23:03.50 | cr2 | the ~/.roadmap/* is not searched ? |
| 23:04.27 | cr2 | actually i'd prefer to use ~/.roadmap for everything before we'll have some stable release. |
| 23:05.05 | tsdogs | not for default/class I think |
| 23:05.28 | tsdogs | look at unix/roadmap_path |
| 23:05.49 | tsdogs | there are 2 or 3 paths sets where things are placed... |
| 23:05.49 | ymerejt | good night |
| 23:05.55 | cr2 | tsdogs: ok. |
| 23:06.00 | cr2 | ymerejt: good night |
| 23:06.08 | tsdogs | ymerejt: night |
| 23:06.31 | cr2 | tsdogs: i've created a google-type "Polish" skin. |
| 23:08.17 | tsdogs | cr2: ok good, are u using all the drawing styles we defined in our version? I'd like to push this changes to mainline too though I'll need to check gtk portability of the changes. |
| 23:08.24 | ljp | tsdogs: problem is, there is no qdirmodel in qtopia |
| 23:09.03 | cr2 | ljp: it's the qconfig-qpe.h option ? |
| 23:10.11 | cr2 | tsdogs: i don't have the polygons rendered. |
| 23:10.22 | cr2 | tsdogs: but the lines are ok. |
| 23:10.39 | tsdogs | ok so it's working somehow :/ |
| 23:10.48 | cr2 | the ugly font is there again. |
| 23:11.00 | tsdogs | lol |
| 23:11.11 | cr2 | tsdogs: yes, that's probably the way how it should be. |
| 23:11.31 | cr2 | the code may check for a map version metatag. |
| 23:12.01 | tsdogs | that defenatly should be a change in rdm files. |
| 23:12.31 | cr2 | you can create arbitrary tags already. |
| 23:12.42 | tsdogs | ljp: well it wasn't there even in opie... |
| 23:12.49 | cr2 | i'm using the google skin :) |
| 23:13.10 | tsdogs | cr2: ok but how do u match it with rdm files? |
| 23:14.00 | cr2 | tsdogs: you read the metatag from .rdm |
| 23:14.02 | cr2 | Map.Use Linefont: labels |
| 23:14.14 | cr2 | what option should i use here ? |
| 23:14.37 | cr2 | added 'none' |
| 23:14.42 | tsdogs | cr2: off |
| 23:14.47 | cr2 | now it's a nice tt font. |
| 23:15.26 | cr2 | the skin is called Google |
| 23:15.45 | cr2 | the renderer should also check the 'Skin' metatag |
| 23:16.02 | cr2 | it's called Class ? |
| 23:16.04 | tsdogs | ljp: btw is there any chance on getting AGG work with QT4 decently? QImage->QPixmap conversion is really slow |
| 23:16.20 | ljp | AGG? |
| 23:16.24 | tsdogs | yes it's called class |
| 23:16.32 | tsdogs | ljp: ANTI GRAIN |
| 23:16.48 | tsdogs | http://antigrain.com/ |
| 23:17.11 | tsdogs | cr2: but what about night / day class/skin? |
| 23:17.35 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.46 | cr2 | it's hadrcoded now, but is not used. |
| 23:17.57 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:18.15 | tsdogs | cr2: can u upload changes to cvs? |
| 23:18.26 | tsdogs | I mean the new google skin. |
| 23:18.47 | cr2 | tsdogs: it's only an advice, the rendered can override it with anything it likes. |
| 23:18.58 | tsdogs | cr2: ho ok. |
| 23:19.05 | cr2 | i don't see the polygons... |
| 23:19.14 | cr2 | so can't check if it's really ok. |
| 23:19.46 | cr2 | actually i like 'Polish' better, but YMMV :) |
| 23:21.30 | cr2 | hehe. got a segfault |
| 23:21.59 | tsdogs | cr2: u only should need the Polish in the default, that should render polygons... |
| 23:22.07 | cr2 | LANG=C qt4/qtroadmap |
| 23:22.08 | cr2 | s== roadmap_start.c, line 1224: RoadMap starting, time 0:23 |
| 23:22.08 | cr2 | s## roadmap_layer.c, line 667: class Polish (set default) redefined in /usr/local/share/roadmap/default/Polish |
| 23:22.08 | cr2 | Speicherzugriffsfehler |
| 23:22.15 | cr2 | LANG=C does not work ? |
| 23:22.45 | cr2 | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 23:22.45 | cr2 | [Switching to Thread 0x2abb87ad41d0 (LWP 10211)] |
| 23:22.45 | cr2 | 0x00002abb84a75bb0 in strlen () from /lib64/libc.so.6 |
| 23:22.56 | tsdogs | cr2: it's because there is All there too I think, it's a bug we had. you need to leave only one file in there... |
| 23:23.13 | cr2 | hehe. it's the old roadmap_log() vsprintf strlen(NULL) bug. |
| 23:23.19 | cr2 | i don't have ALL |
| 23:23.28 | tsdogs | ho, then maybe the Google? |
| 23:23.46 | cr2 | hm. yes. |
| 23:24.31 | cr2 | ok. renamed the 'Class' to Google. |
| 23:24.51 | cr2 | ah, the rivers are black. |
| 23:25.56 | cr2 | but you didn't port the full Pen styles to mainline afair. |
| 23:27.08 | tsdogs | cr2: not yet, but pushing it as is won't be accepted. |
| 23:27.13 | cr2 | gcc 4.2 wants const char * everywhere. |
| 23:27.54 | tsdogs | I'd probably need to do a merge with also GTK and AGG properties |
| 23:29.29 | cr2 | i've checked with our old source, the "google" skin works. |
| 23:29.37 | cr2 | the lake/sea colour is ugly. |
| 23:31.33 | paulproteus | ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots - the latest snapshots are still broken, it seems. |
| 23:32.05 | cr2 | BabelO: are you sleeping ? |
| 23:32.17 | BabelO | cr2: no :) |
| 23:32.53 | BabelO | cr2: i m looking how to fix BA keyboard driver and how to boot 2.6.23 |
| 23:33.09 | BabelO | cr2: touchscreen need a fix too |
| 23:35.14 | ljp | paulproteus: we have had network problems between oslo and brisbane |
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| 23:53.57 | tsdogs | good night all |
