IRC log for #htc-linux on 20080104

00:00.09BabelOAlGe: normally you have to get keycode 116
00:00.16BabelOsomewhere in xkbkeymap
00:00.48BabelOset to XF86POWER
00:01.01BabelOsomething like that
00:01.51AlGebut I get keycode 124, Execute in xev from power button
00:03.02BabelO124 ? humm maybe then
00:03.02BabelOlast time it was 116 :( i m disappointed
00:03.19AlGeI have no xkbkeymap on my filesystem?
00:03.31BabelOAlGe: look under /etc/X11
00:03.45BabelOthere is a mapping file in those directory
00:04.17BabelOit contain XF86
00:04.27BabelOgrep XF86 * -R
00:04.59AlGethere are lots of *.xmodmaps containing XF86
00:05.35BabelOyep that is these files
00:05.49BabelOon of those is loaded by matchbox on startup
00:06.06AlGethis one: gpe-login.keylaunchrc ?
00:06.10BabelOand if you look bettre one contain XF86..... mapped to a keycode
00:07.16BabelOi think you can found correct mapping at xfree86.org
00:07.49paulproteus(er, x.org?)
00:08.17AlGeok, i'll find it ... :-)
00:08.43BabelOAlGe: other solution is to map keycode 124 to command line apm -s
00:08.50BabelOshould work too
00:14.02BabelOAlGe: you can add XF86AudioLowerVolume and other too ;)
00:22.29BabelOAlGe: XF86Standby
00:23.24BabelOAlGe: keycode 124 = XF86Standby definition are in /usr/include/X11/XF86keysym.h just need to remove the Xk_
00:31.32BabelOgood night all
00:34.29paulproteusNight BabelO!
00:37.20parhi
00:37.39parnight bebl0
00:57.36Kevin2psokolovsky: Did you see the make-bootbundle.py failure report from goxboxlive: http://pastebin.no/2993
00:59.10psokolovskyHi!
00:59.25psokolovskyKevin2: damn, should be "find" then ;-D
01:00.52paulproteusThat's really not idiomatic Python.
01:00.57paulproteusHere's a more Pythonic version:
01:01.07paulproteuselif "%v" in outfile:
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05:39.09goxboxlivegood morning
05:47.08goxboxlivepaulproteus: awake?
05:48.41goxboxlivehmm i didnt know that lmy universal running linux could be conneted to winxp via ssh.
05:58.18goxboxlivehttp://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00534/Hvithai_534328b.jpg
06:17.27paulproteusgoxboxlive, Yes
06:17.43paulproteusgoxboxlive, Is that a picture of your Uni now? (-;
06:29.00goxboxlive:-)
06:34.58goxboxlivepaulproteus: have you noticed that it seems like the battery indicator is kind of accurate?
06:35.44goxboxliveI had it connected to usb all the evening, then i unplugged it when i got to bed last night, this morning i got an warning, allmost empty battery
06:37.05paulproteusThat's good I guess.
06:37.17paulproteusI haven't actually installed the latest version.
06:37.36paulproteusDo you think it's accurate?
06:37.41paulproteusThat much drain so soon?
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08:59.31algehi,
08:59.32algeI'm currently adopting my BA keymappings, what would be the appropriate keysyms for the liftphone and hangup keys?
08:59.32algeor has soembody already a /etc/X11/blueangel.xmodmap to share?
09:00.25algecurrently the phone keys are F7 and F8
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09:10.45algeok, found one modmap in the irclogs ...
09:13.31algestrange, both audiorecord and camera give keycode 8 with xev ...
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09:18.33algealso windows- mail- and explorer button give keycode 8
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09:31.31goxboxlivedoes universal charge while it is in suspend mode? It should though, doesnt know if it worsk though
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09:38.38BabelOgood morning
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10:04.41algehi babelo
10:05.35BabelOhi alge
10:07.35algei'm currently writing/modifying my blueangel.xmodmap, some keys are not working (see above), with keycode 8 (keysym 0x0) ...
10:08.04algebut they generate an input-key eventas they start the kbblight
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10:31.22BabelOalge: it is strange, these key are working in qtopia, just Mail and internet have same value ( little bug)
10:34.51alge<PROTECTED>
10:35.23elliswaymorning all
10:42.24goxboxliveOk, test done. It charges when it is a sleep.
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12:44.04kiozenBabelO: http://www.qlandkarte.org/qpesnapshot.png
12:44.17kiozena virtual loox running qpe :)
12:48.57BabelOkiozen: oh oh you have done the skin ;)
12:49.03BabelOkiozen: but your mmHeigh and mmWidth are not set
12:49.28kiozenBabelO: they should, log looks good
12:49.39kiozen480x640 display ;)
12:49.53kiozenBabelO: now I can emulate the keys
12:51.23BabelOkiozen: ok for QWS_SIZE, but need QWS_DISPLAY to when emulated ?
12:52.42kiozenBabelO: I set both and the VFB server reports back: 480 x 640 x 32 90x120mm (135x135dpi)
12:57.46BabelOkiozen: ok maybe because it look bigger on my BA ;)
12:57.59BabelOgoxboxliv2: what distrib did you use on your Xbox ?
13:00.59goxboxliv2BabelO: i'm not using linux on it. I am using Xbox mediacenter
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13:44.05rakeemHello all....   Can anyone give me the correct voodoo for GPRS initialisation / connection on the BA?  My new provider requires a username and password to connect too, and I've not seen anything
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13:55.48parthe proper AT commands are at handhelds
14:21.21rakeemThey don't seem to cover how to send the username and passwords required by my new carrier...
14:28.17BabelOrakeem: what is your provider ?
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16:23.26parhow many HTC pda's do you think they have shipped total?
16:25.46parall HTC pda's either come with or are capable of running wmodem.exe afaik
16:54.57goxboxliveBabelO: magician is still segfault
16:57.45BabelOgoxboxlive: :( time to look at n_tihtc driver and add \r\n at end
16:59.40goxboxliveBabelO: yes i have seen in the gta01 source that ljp has added som e \r\n\
17:03.17BabelOgoxboxlive: on my last test, i ve seen that qtopia mechanics is not able to detect AT command whenteir is no \r\n at end of line. so i have patched it... but maybe better is to patch n_tihtc drivers
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17:38.02rakeemBabelO:  You still there, I was out...  My provider's called Peoples, I'm in Hong Kong...  Your asking makes me think this might be more difficult than I hoped...  8-|
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18:26.32ymerejtall: Hi
18:26.42ymerejtgoxboxlive, which mediaengine are u using ?
18:42.16dcordeshi ymerejt
18:42.32ymerejthi
18:45.02BabelOrakeem: it seem that peoples provider do not need any login/password so empty is the correct value
18:49.03dcordesBabelO, heard something about cr2?
18:49.28BabelOdcordes: no, waiting
18:49.54dcordeshtckaiser is missing him badly
18:54.20BabelOlol, it is just one week of holiday, not enough i think :)
18:55.26dcordesyou mean he better should take some more?
18:55.59BabelOyes , more holiday is always better
18:56.14dcordesI'm never on holidays
18:57.03BabelOme too i ve one year of holiday to take before may, i don't know how can i do that
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19:06.02dcordesBabelO, well you are in south of france, aren't you?
19:06.23dcordesthat would be holiday for me every day...
19:07.22BabelOdcordes: yes i m, near the sea :)
19:07.42dcordessee my location is rather shity so I regrett lack of holiday
19:10.30rakeemBabelO:  I just got the SIM today, and did as their documentation indicated, and it worked...  Lemme check without in CE... (I got their internal docs eventually, after resorting to telling them my handset was homemade, and that handset specific info might not be enough :-)
19:12.41goxboxliveBabelO: ok i c.
19:13.41goxboxliveymerejt: now i am using cruxus, but helix is better. Even though helix slows the system down. I also havent been able to configure with helix lately (  i think since 12th dec).
19:14.15ymerejtbut helix is buggy
19:14.30goxboxliveymerejt: why?
19:15.09goxboxlivehelix playes all my mp3 files and some video files. Cruxus only play some of my mp3's
19:20.54dcordesgoxboxlive, are those qtopia apps?
19:22.08ymerejtgoxboxlive, helix plays only ogg here
19:25.30ymerejtgoxboxlive, and I have some problems with helix on suspend/resume
19:28.09paulproteusMorning, all.
19:28.22ymerejtevening paulproteus
19:29.59goxboxlivedcordes: heilx is a mediaengine, and works with Qtopia-mediaplayer
19:30.14dcordesok
19:31.28goxboxliveymerejt: so you are able to compile qtopia now with helix support? They must have fixed it then. Wich helix source do u use?
19:31.53ymerejtgoxboxlive, no idea
19:33.06goxboxliveymerejt: but wich did you extract in to the source? The cayenne 4.3.0 or 4.2.1 ?
19:33.25ymerejtgoxboxlive, nothing
19:33.45ymerejtI use the git repository only I think
19:35.39goxboxliveymerejt: ok, the you dont use helix, u use cruxus. If Qtopia configure doesnt find the helix sources it chooses cruxus as default.
19:35.59ymerejtgoxboxlive, ok it's clean now
19:36.04ymerejts/clean/clear
19:36.17goxboxlivehelix is 3rdparty software, and should be extracted in to src/l3rdparty/libraries/heilx
19:36.35goxboxlivehold on i give you the link for helix sources
19:37.28ymerejtgoxboxlive, give me this if you success to compile with ...
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19:38.24goxboxlivehttp://nie.skasowane.pl/gl/browse.php?u=aHR0cHM6Ly9oZWxpeGNvbW11bml0eS5vcmcvcHJvamVjdHMvaGVsaXgtY2xpZW50L25ld3MvODc0&b=31
19:39.04ymerejtgoxboxlive, is it working ?
19:39.06goxboxlivehttp://nie.skasowane.pl/gl/browse.php?u=aHR0cHM6Ly9oZWxpeC1jbGllbnQuaGVsaXhjb21tdW5pdHkub3JnL3JlbGVhc2Vz&b=31
19:39.09goxboxliveit did
19:39.19goxboxlivehavent tried it for a while
19:39.38ymerejtgoxboxlive, could do this test I have so much bug to fix before ...
19:40.03goxboxliveymerejt: but the license is restricted. Only for dev use. I cant include it for others to download
19:40.14goxboxliveyes, of course.
19:41.07ymerejtgoxboxlive, maybe a day we should try to implement our own mediaengine based on something like mplayer
19:41.20goxboxliveymerejt: that would be nice.
19:41.42goxboxliveQtopiia also supports gstreamer but i havent managed to configure with it
19:41.43paulproteusSomehow I thought Helix was Free Software.
19:42.09paulproteusHmm, guess it's not.
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19:44.36tsdogshi all
19:44.41tsdogsgoxboxlive: http://nie.skasowane.pl/gl/browse.php?u=aHR0cHM6Ly9oZWxpeGNvbW11bml0eS5vcmcvaGVscC9mb3J1bXMvZW50cnkvMzI2NS8%3D&b=31
19:44.50ymerejttsdogs, hi
19:45.08tsdogsymerejt: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/qtopia/
19:45.19tsdogsthere u find my latest battery evolvements.
19:45.47tsdogsymerejt: what was the thing with AT+CBC u were talking about?
19:45.49goxboxlivetsdogs: if it is improved why dont you add it to git?
19:46.01paulproteustsdogs, Either your own branch or ymerejt's.
19:46.38tsdogspaulproteus: I should generate my git tree then
19:46.48tsdogsI'll generate the keys.
19:47.10tsdogshmm, I already have one..
19:47.19paulproteusThen just give me the ~/.ssh/id_*.pub by email.
19:47.31ymerejttsdogs, QFileMonitor provide a poll solution. Don't you think it could be a good idea to use it ?
19:48.05ymerejttsdogs, and we should open the file once no ?
19:48.07tsdogsymerejt: look at the comments, the problem here is that it does not work on sys
19:48.15tsdogsfs
19:48.34ymerejteven replacing  QFileMonitor::Auto with  QFileMonitor::Poll ?
19:48.51tsdogsit works if some process changes the file, but as it's an in memory filesystem (like proc is) then when the value changes it's not working
19:49.12tsdogsI have no idea if this is fixed with newer kernels (2.6.23?)
19:49.27ymerejttsdogs, I think it can't be really fixed
19:49.45ymerejttsdogs and I think with the Poll solution it will work
19:49.46paulproteustsdogs, I'm going to be doing some reading, but ping me when you need me to do something.
19:49.57tsdogsymerejt: I haven't tryed it but I think that poll looks the mtime which does not change
19:50.13tsdogspaulproteus: I'll send u a key in a while.
19:50.13ymerejttsdogs, read the doc ...
19:50.33tsdogsymerejt: code is there, so I can test it...
19:50.51ymerejttsdogs, of couse
19:51.17tsdogsbut if inotify ain't working I suppose it won't work with Poll either...(u got a link btw?)
19:51.18ymerejttsdogs, and about opening file once ?
19:52.44ymerejthttp://www.qtopia.org.cn/ftp/mirror/doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.1/qfilemonitor.html
19:53.01ymerejttsdogs and the Poll strategy work for me for /proc/apm
19:53.34ymerejttsdogs, but I think the timer lap is not configuration ...
19:53.40tsdogsok, in that link there is no mention on how poll is actually checking for changes.
19:54.11tsdogsI have only tested inotify but it does not work.
19:54.37ymerejttsdogs, normal
19:54.43tsdogsymerejt: is there an apmd too?
19:55.05tsdogsok let me try with poll
19:55.29ymerejttsdogs, it will check every 5 seconds so it could be too much ...
19:55.48tsdogsI have a 10sec timeout anyway :)
19:56.07ymerejt;)
20:04.12tsdogsymerejt: nope no go even with poll
20:04.41ymerejttsdogs, I'm suprised but you're probably right
20:05.02ymerejttsdogs, I'm working on the sound part at this time ...
20:05.28tsdogsok, but what was the part about at+cbc???
20:05.30ymerejttsdogs, and you should remove the commented code if you're agree with this .
20:05.48ymerejttsdogs, I don't understand the question
20:06.11tsdogsymerejt: i was wondering if the inotify will work with future kernels
20:06.43tsdogsymerejt: you said I have to call setCharging otherwise qtopia poll for at+cbc
20:06.53ymerejttsdogs, I think not but never says never
20:07.07tsdogswait
20:07.17ymerejtI already do this in the phonevendors code
20:07.39tsdogs[gio gen 3 2008] [20:30:09] <ymerejt> its important to call setCurrentCharge because otherwise qtopia will always poll for AT+CBC
20:08.06ymerejt[21:07] <ymerejt> I already do this in the phonevendors code
20:08.08tsdogsgg, bbl (baby and dinner time...)
20:08.08ymerejt,)
20:08.09ymerejt;)
20:08.29ymerejtok cya
20:14.43ymerejtgoxboxlive, for the kernel part I will work on the diogene31 svn server for debug purpose and during the refactoring part
20:15.13ymerejtgoxboxlive, I will create TAGS  for you when some changes should be interresting ...
20:15.20goxboxliveymerejt: that was way over my knowledge :-/
20:15.25goxboxlivegood
20:16.04ymerejtgoxboxlive, and when the refactoring will be sufficient I will create a patch from SVN and give it to cr2
20:16.20ymerejtgoxboxlive, this way I don't this damn CVS access !
20:16.33ymerejts/don't/don't need
20:17.00goxboxliveymerejt: ok, sounds good
20:17.37goxboxliveymerejt: we should also be able to enable/disable wifi, bt and so within the qtopia menus
20:17.49goxboxliveI have created somedevtools stuff now, but thats only hacks
20:18.19ymerejtgoxboxlive, I have fixed the insert/remove headset bug in the kernel. I will put in SVN tonight or maybe tomorow
20:18.47ymerejtgoxboxlive, so play with it, improve and moreover put in your own git branch
20:18.48goxboxliveoh goos so you are saying that we can also use g\headset now?
20:19.32ymerejtgoxboxlive, for music playing only at this time but I have clue to do it with calls too ...
20:19.53ymerejtgoxboxlive, so we could look at your hack and ....
20:20.34ymerejtgoxboxlive, at this time I'm beginning the audio part refactoring of the htcuniversal device qtopia plugins ...
20:20.48goxboxliveok
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20:49.50paulproteustsdogs, You are added to the repository now.
20:56.53rakeem__paulproteus:  I saw a message from a few days back asking where I'm based...  Hong Kong, is my belated reply...
21:17.26diogene31cr2: Are you around ?
21:17.39paulproteusrakeem__, Cool!  Pleased to meet you. (-:
21:32.13rakeem__Likewise, Sir..  I've seen you around these parts before I'm sure...  What device are you doing battle with?
21:32.59paulproteusHTC Universal
21:33.11paulproteusgoxboxlive and ymerejt have made it less like battle and more like joy. (-:
21:33.51rakeem__Nice, I lost mine and replaced it with a BA...  Gonna get me another Uni though, what's linux without a decent keyboard...?  ;-)
21:34.04paulproteusBe warned, it's a little large.
21:34.11paulproteusI get teased practically daily. (-:
21:35.03rakeem__Yeah, I've had two before...  I explain that it's a PDA with a phone built in as a gimmick...
21:35.22paulproteusBTW, do you have to open it to answer calls?
21:35.40paulproteus(Maybe ymerejt or goxboxlive would answer too.)  Or can you just press the green phone button and keep it closed?
21:36.24ymerejtpaulproteus, not tested but I'm almost sure that you don't need to open. Press the green phone button should be enough
21:36.33paulproteusCool, I'll try sometime.
21:38.14rakeem__Ha...  What?  Under CE?  Play a soundfile, negotiate a GSM call and rotate the framebuffer at the same time?!  That usually pushes it over the edge rendering it unable to go the last mile and respond to the Answer button...  It's nice enough to tell you that you've missed a call though, unnecessary as it is...
21:39.11paulproteusrakeem__, I mean in our magical Qtopia land. (-:
21:39.16paulproteusBTW we can't even rotate the screen yet.
21:39.24paulproteusSo don't knock CE too hard. (-;
21:39.50rakeem__Sorry, there's a lot of anger there...  I'm working through it with my therapist...   ;-)
21:41.09rakeem__I've not had the phone going at all yet, I just got me a second SIM, mainly for GPR$...  Trying to get that going right now...  Do I need to issue a DHCP request manually after starting pppd?
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21:44.48paulproteusrakeem__, Shouldn't need to, I think.
21:44.59paulproteusI had trouble doing ppp with my Magician recently, fwiw.
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21:58.09rakeem__Well, I'm done...  Gentlemen, until tomorrow...
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