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| 02:11.07 | paulproteus | rakeem, Evenin'. |
| 02:11.14 | paulproteus | Where are you based? |
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| 07:53.08 | bernt | good morning |
| 07:57.46 | bernt | rakeem_: did you have succes with your ba? |
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| 09:52.22 | rakeem_ | ? |
| 09:54.29 | rakeem_ | bernt: Not with the recompiled kernel... Can someone suggest a checklist for Kbd / TS? Modules, configs etc... I stumped... |
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| 11:33.54 | rob_w | ncie .. now i can build haret on my own .. never managed that before |
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| 12:38.58 | BabelO | hi |
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| 12:40.51 | BabelO | kiozen: this gmapsupp.cpp sound like google map .. lol |
| 12:41.49 | kiozen | BabelO: not my fault. Stupid idea by Garmin... |
| 12:42.18 | kiozen | BabelO: did you read? that guy albrecht makes a ppc port |
| 12:42.36 | kiozen | BabelO: and proofs Garmin to be complete morrons |
| 12:42.54 | kiozen | BabelO: I love open source :) |
| 12:42.58 | BabelO | kiozen: no i just read back all my mail now |
| 12:43.22 | kiozen | BabelO: strg+a, del ;) |
| 12:43.46 | kiozen | s/strg/ctrl/ |
| 12:44.12 | BabelO | lol, i do that at my office ;) |
| 12:44.51 | BabelO | one week off holiday and 250 emails :(, if it is urgent email then i admit they resent it ;) |
| 12:46.38 | BabelO | kiozen: IMG file which covers all "special" cases |
| 12:46.43 | BabelO | that is a good idea |
| 12:47.29 | kiozen | BabelO: no way, that does not exist |
| 13:22.40 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 13:24.06 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 13:24.24 | goxboxlive | hi, are you home again |
| 13:24.25 | BabelO | goxboxlive: universal is in the good way now ;) |
| 13:24.32 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes i m at home |
| 13:24.40 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 13:25.29 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes, Universal actually works better that the NEO now. All we now need is to have a trusty battery indicator. |
| 13:26.00 | goxboxlive | ymerejt is looking at your code to make it, since the gta01 code didnt match universal |
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| 13:27.32 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i m looking at kevin2 keyboard driver now, my artemis still hang when i boot and BA same with 2.6.23 |
| 13:27.45 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 13:27.57 | goxboxlive | BabelO: rob_w is back, he is looking at touch |
| 13:28.03 | bernt | goxboxlive: working better than neo ... if the universal would not be so expensive ... |
| 13:29.25 | goxboxlive | bernt: it's not that expensive now, buy a used one at ebay |
| 13:29.39 | goxboxlive | i guess you will get it cheaper than a new neo |
| 13:31.34 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes i see his post |
| 13:31.58 | BabelO | bernt: 212 euros on ebay actually ;) just for 1h30 :) |
| 13:37.23 | BabelO | bon on est dimanche !!! pas le choix, c'est mac do :( |
| 13:37.24 | BabelO | a+ |
| 13:45.53 | SmallR2002 | did i hear some news about htc starting to consider using linux? |
| 13:51.48 | bernt | OK buyed ;-) hopefuly it takes not so long for delivering ... |
| 13:54.36 | BabelO | lol |
| 13:55.47 | rob_w | goxboxlive: actaully i ve the touch dual |
| 13:55.58 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 14:00.37 | BabelO | rob_w: it is the one with MSM processor ? |
| 14:02.05 | rob_w | yes |
| 14:02.30 | rob_w | but i am stuck .. as i cant get haret to work over usb connections |
| 14:03.28 | rob_w | SmallR2002: HTC is one of the key accounts of MS .. i bet they dont or only with low buzz |
| 14:04.31 | BabelO | rob_w: you try same than dcordes ? |
| 14:04.52 | rob_w | dcordes ? |
| 14:05.04 | BabelO | yes he have the HTC kaiser |
| 14:05.14 | rob_w | did he succeed ? |
| 14:05.43 | BabelO | don't know he work with cr2, but cr2 on holiday these days |
| 14:06.03 | rob_w | i see |
| 14:06.31 | rob_w | pH5 tryed it also and failed even on his hx2200 |
| 14:06.47 | BabelO | rob_w: which one ? |
| 14:06.51 | rob_w | seems sometihing broke inside of haret along the way |
| 14:07.09 | rob_w | he just said "on his hx " so i dunno exactly |
| 14:07.26 | BabelO | rob_w: 0.5.0 work on mine |
| 14:07.34 | BabelO | on ba and artemis |
| 14:07.39 | rob_w | for usb to ppc ? |
| 14:08.15 | BabelO | yes |
| 14:08.28 | BabelO | under linux and windows , both tried |
| 14:08.32 | BabelO | rob_w: http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ |
| 14:08.38 | BabelO | you have some msm compile here |
| 14:08.44 | rob_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.54 | rob_w | ok let me try 0.5.0 |
| 14:09.05 | rob_w | i took the latest haret and the 0.4.8 |
| 14:09.16 | BabelO | rob_w: i setup no network card, just use synce and odccm daemon |
| 14:09.25 | BabelO | network is automatically setup |
| 14:09.55 | BabelO | bbl |
| 14:09.59 | rob_w | ok |
| 14:12.13 | SmallR2002 | rob_w, if they have any sense they know there's a *geek* market out there for people who specifically want linux |
| 14:13.22 | SmallR2002 | i guess it's just finger crossing time :p |
| 14:13.54 | rob_w | well but its all about money .. so you need to show them they can sell 10k units in the first year .. then they move happily ! |
| 14:14.19 | rob_w | goes back to EVE online a bit |
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| 14:52.17 | jimmythex | hi @ alls |
| 14:53.16 | jimmythex | sind hier zufällig auch deutsch sprechende anwesend ? |
| 14:53.44 | BabelO | ~x de en sind hier zufällig auch deutsch sprechende anwesend ? |
| 14:54.22 | BabelO | jimmythex: yes but english is understandable by all :) |
| 14:54.48 | jimmythex | ok im sry my english is not very good ...:( |
| 14:55.32 | BabelO | jimmythex: else use translator like i do |
| 14:55.39 | jimmythex | ok i have a T-Mobile MDA Pro this is a HTC Universal and i will install linux on this device |
| 14:55.55 | AlGe | maybe SmallR2002 has something like this in mind: http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=3162959 |
| 14:55.55 | AlGe | (german only sorry), its about a first android prototype by HTC |
| 14:56.59 | SmallR2002 | sweet |
| 14:57.01 | BabelO | jimmythex: so you can downloadcab file and follow intruction http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html |
| 14:57.44 | SmallR2002 | hmmm |
| 14:58.00 | jimmythex | which file on this side Babe10 ? |
| 14:58.38 | SmallR2002 | so it provides web, im, and basic word processing? |
| 14:58.43 | BabelO | jimmythex: this one is the better http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/O.P.I.E-II/Qtopia-Linux.cab |
| 14:58.45 | jimmythex | which image is the best for me ? |
| 14:58.48 | SmallR2002 | my german isn't that good ;) |
| 14:58.58 | kiozen | lol, Babe 10 :) |
| 14:58.59 | jimmythex | ok |
| 14:59.56 | jimmythex | run kismet under MDA Pro ? |
| 15:00.05 | BabelO | kiozen: he miss the tab key too :) |
| 15:00.27 | kiozen | lol |
| 15:00.29 | BabelO | jimmythex: sure kismet run on it, i use it on my blueangel |
| 15:00.36 | jimmythex | thx |
| 15:01.15 | BabelO | jimmythex: kismet is only console on mobile device as far i know |
| 15:01.37 | SmallR2002 | AlGe, is the launch planned for germany or global? |
| 15:01.51 | jimmythex | its no problem Babe10 |
| 15:02.01 | BabelO | jimmythex: so maybe use another image to do that |
| 15:02.14 | bernt | jimmythex: I'm speaking german (deutsch) too ;-) |
| 15:02.40 | BabelO | jimmythex: because under qtopia shell is not available, only over ssh |
| 15:03.04 | jimmythex | which file is for kismet good ? |
| 15:03.12 | bernt | Babel0: which translator do you use? |
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| 15:03.48 | jimmythex | which image file for kismet babe10 ? |
| 15:04.32 | BabelO | jimmythex: none had kismet embeded, you have to download it using apt package |
| 15:05.15 | jimmythex | ok |
| 15:06.49 | jimmythex | ok i must use qtopia by kismet and run kismet by ssh ? |
| 15:07.39 | BabelO | jimmythex: yes, if you want qtopia else if you use gpe or opie, you can run kismet on device itself under a console |
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| 15:07.56 | BabelO | jimmythex: you have to add http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/ |
| 15:08.06 | BabelO | and then use apt install kismet |
| 15:09.44 | jimmythex | thx babel0 |
| 15:10.21 | BabelO | and then use apt install kismet-dbg ;) |
| 15:10.50 | jimmythex | what is dbg ? |
| 15:11.17 | BabelO | jimmythex: just a version compiled with debug symbol |
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| 15:11.36 | BabelO | jimmythex: because without dbg it seem release does not exist |
| 15:11.52 | jimmythex | ok |
| 15:19.46 | bernt | jimmythex: Or use http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv5te/base/kismet_2007-10-R1-r2_armv5te.ipk |
| 15:21.37 | jimmythex | ich häng grad noch bei der inst von qtopia hab grad linux hochgefahren und jetzt schreibt er : Mounting SD card No previous root filesystem found.. fail fail fail root filesystem tar file not found |
| 15:22.52 | BabelO | Kevin2: around ? |
| 15:22.59 | bernt | was für einträge hat denn deine startup.txt |
| 15:23.06 | jimmythex | mom |
| 15:23.21 | jimmythex | nach dem befehl exit hat er sich jetzt aufgehängt was nun ? |
| 15:23.39 | jimmythex | reset ? |
| 15:24.04 | bernt | akku raus und wieder rein -- irgendwann geht das automatisch ;-) |
| 15:24.10 | jimmythex | ^^ |
| 15:24.24 | jimmythex | reset taste funktionierte auch |
| 15:25.18 | bernt | wow my BA does a real reset only through removing the battery :-( |
| 15:25.37 | jimmythex | wo finde ich dei startup.txt ? |
| 15:25.54 | bernt | normaly SD-Card ;-) |
| 15:27.19 | bernt | described in http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux |
| 15:27.38 | jimmythex | also auf meiner SD card ist nur noch das cab file von dem images drauf aber es wurde ein neuer ordner erstellt der sich storagecard nennt dieser enthält eine datei namens qtopia.linux.rootfs.tar aber nirgends eine startup.txt |
| 15:29.15 | jimmythex | hab bis jetzt nur die qtopia.cab installiert fehlt da noch was ? |
| 15:29.36 | bernt | du könnstest es auch nach der Anleitung auf http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux probieren ... |
| 15:30.27 | bernt | (old way) |
| 15:30.59 | jimmythex | hmmm den richtigen weg kennst du nicht zufällig ? |
| 15:32.08 | bernt | Ich hab im Moment nur meinen blueangel, und da gibt keine cab-Datei für. ;-) |
| 15:34.08 | jimmythex | habs glaub ich hab einfach das tarfile auf meine speicherkarte verschoben und jetzt generiert er ein file system |
| 15:42.00 | BabelO | bernt: with goxboxlive install cab for universal you don't need any partition, just 100 MB free on your sd card |
| 15:42.27 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: bernt english only |
| 15:43.01 | bernt | yes but with my ba this has not worked .. have to wait for the new phone ;-) |
| 15:43.02 | jimmythex | so qtopia ist installiert gui hab ich auch touchscreen funzt auch aber ich kann anklicken was ich will nix passiert |
| 15:43.56 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: listen, this is an english channel. If you want to write in german, then go private. |
| 15:44.12 | jimmythex | ok sry |
| 15:44.52 | bernt | jimmythex: can you ping / ssh your phone? |
| 15:45.11 | jimmythex | in my network ? |
| 15:45.18 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: what is the problem? Are you using one of mine images? |
| 15:46.49 | jimmythex | i use qtopia and i have install qtopia on my t-mobile MDA Pro HTC Universal qtopiy is installed but no button in the gui is react |
| 15:48.01 | jimmythex | in the bottom on the left side stands unlock but how i unlock this ? |
| 15:48.32 | jimmythex | buttom |
| 15:48.54 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: ssh to your uni |
| 15:49.14 | goxboxlive | open /etc/init.d/qpe.sh |
| 15:49.24 | goxboxlive | edit the HTC Universal cection |
| 15:49.36 | goxboxlive | replace figta01 with htcuniversal |
| 15:49.46 | goxboxlive | you can also update the opt folder in root |
| 15:49.56 | goxboxlive | follow this thread to do so |
| 15:51.12 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1769908&postcount=1817 |
| 15:51.52 | jimmythex | ok thx |
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| 16:08.51 | Cumulus | What's the status on Linux for the Mogul? |
| 16:13.42 | AlGe | SmallR2002: the "derstandard" article above is only about a _prototype_ and nothing german sepcific. |
| 16:13.43 | AlGe | I think its only a german translation of http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/android-hardware-in-the-wild/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild-334909.php |
| 16:15.03 | bernt | the question is will there be soon an end-user-version of this phone ;-) |
| 16:15.23 | bernt | ore is the neo faster ... |
| 16:17.40 | Cumulus | whoops, excuse me. HTC Titan... I see now that Mogul is just a name. What's the status of a linux port for HTC Titan? |
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| 16:49.31 | jimmythex | goxboxlive qtopia dosent run on my MDA Pro i have make this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1769908&postcount=1817 its bring not disired result |
| 16:56.34 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: did you edit /etc/init.d/qpe.sh ? |
| 16:57.23 | jimmythex | no |
| 16:57.51 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: i told you to do that also |
| 16:58.16 | goxboxlive | open it and replace ficgat01 with htcuniversal in the HTC Universal section |
| 16:58.58 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1769653&postcount=1813 |
| 16:59.23 | jimmythex | |
| 16:59.23 | jimmythex | I have installed qtopia then followed your instructions and now runs qtopia yes, but also the bottom left is still "unlock" and when I click up there just happens garnix nothing happens when I click any button |
| 16:59.46 | paulproteus | jimmythex, I had the same problem and it was fixed by me restarting qtopia btw. |
| 17:00.06 | paulproteus | You have to do goxboxlive's edit to /etc/init.d/qpe.sh no matter what, probably. |
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| 17:06.01 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Hi |
| 17:06.19 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: do you have a sim card in your device? |
| 17:07.41 | jimmythex | no i dont use this device to telfone i use this device only for wlan |
| 17:07.56 | BabelO | hi Kevin2 |
| 17:08.08 | jimmythex | i have edit the qpe.sh |
| 17:08.12 | BabelO | Kevin2: i read yourbbkey driver to adapt it on BA |
| 17:08.14 | jimmythex | no desired result |
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| 17:08.57 | Kevin2 | BabelO: bbkey? You have BA "type 6"? |
| 17:09.02 | BabelO | Kevin2: but on ba it is better if i create a asic3 spi driver i think |
| 17:09.09 | jimmythex | the only change after the edit is the battery symbol has now color ;) |
| 17:09.19 | BabelO | Kevin2: no, in replacement for ba keyboard driver |
| 17:10.01 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Okay. There is a htc-bbkey driver (for a bitbanging chip on apache and hermes) and a htc-spi-kbd driver for spi based keyboard. |
| 17:10.26 | BabelO | Kevin2: why you are not using SPI bitbanging in you htc-bbkey ? |
| 17:10.28 | jimmythex | i dont have a sim card in this device is this required |
| 17:10.30 | jimmythex | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.34 | BabelO | Kevin2: ah ok i need to use the second ;) |
| 17:13.08 | jimmythex | |
| 17:13.08 | jimmythex | How do I open a terminal within qtopia? |
| 17:14.24 | paulproteus | jimmythex, There is no terminal in Qtopia currently. |
| 17:14.32 | paulproteus | jimmythex, I think it is required to have a SIM for now. |
| 17:14.48 | paulproteus | *But* maybe you can configure Qtopia to use a dummy SIM; it has support for that. |
| 17:17.21 | jimmythex | |
| 17:17.21 | jimmythex | As I said I would with this device not only calls probes kismet use wlan and therefore I need no sim card, there is perhaps a more appropriate image? |
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| 17:20.45 | goxboxlive | jimmythex: You have to have a sim card to run Qtopia. There is work true though. In the qpe.sh file you can commnt out thoose two lines in the HTC Universal section wich includes "no". And comment the ficgta01/htcuniversal and ttyS0 line. |
| 17:28.40 | jimmythex | YES Now runs qtopia ;) |
| 17:29.08 | jimmythex | thx goxboxlive ;) |
| 17:51.17 | BabelO | goxboxlive: time to use my app on your phone ;) |
| 17:52.13 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Yes, i havent included it in any images yet. I dont know if i'm allowd to do it. Am i ? |
| 17:52.52 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes |
| 17:54.38 | goxboxlive | ok good |
| 17:55.11 | goxboxlive | BabelO: http://www.medieninf.de/qmapcontrol/ |
| 17:59.15 | BabelO | goxboxlive: look nice |
| 17:59.26 | goxboxlive | yes, i am trying to compile it now |
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| 18:15.57 | goxboxlive | BabelO: it build :-) |
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| 18:38.13 | bernt | goxboxlive: yes this is good :-) |
| 18:38.24 | goxboxlive | ? |
| 18:39.13 | bernt | Samples_i386.tar.gz |
| 18:39.29 | bernt | I have tried it only on my pc |
| 18:42.44 | goxboxlive | bernt: oh you mean qmapcontrol. I tested it on my ficphone now |
| 18:43.19 | goxboxlive | it's not accurate though. It says i am 100km from where i actually am |
| 18:44.48 | goxboxlive | damn where are cr2, he know a lot about this GPS stuff. |
| 18:48.26 | bernt | does your gps position and google earth fit together? |
| 18:49.20 | bernt | if yes, then make an update to OpenStreetMap |
| 18:50.44 | bernt | Its also funny to see at OpenStreetMap, that someone has driven a main street not to the end. |
| 18:51.34 | bernt | so there is a part of one main street to the city missing ;-) |
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| 18:53.05 | bernt | but OpenStreetMap is only as good as we give them our gps data ... |
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| 19:13.42 | dcordes | high |
| 19:15.03 | dcordes | good evening swetland |
| 19:15.14 | swetland | late morning for me |
| 19:15.40 | dcordes | aren't you uk based? |
| 19:15.50 | swetland | nope. mountain view |
| 19:16.09 | swetland | our team doesn't have anyone operating out of the UK |
| 19:16.31 | dcordes | I got you confused with ellisway somehow -_- |
| 19:16.42 | dcordes | you are the msm lord himself |
| 19:16.55 | dcordes | ~hail swetland |
| 19:16.56 | apt | ACTION bows down to swetland and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 19:17.06 | swetland | just a kernel hacker. not wanting to take responsibility for somebody else's architecture ^^ |
| 19:17.30 | dcordes | may I ask for SD interface progress? |
| 19:17.52 | swetland | scrollback available? (I answered the question just after you left last time, I guess) |
| 19:18.11 | dcordes | cool let me check logs |
| 19:21.31 | dcordes | got it: For SD stuff good to know there is work in progress |
| 19:21.52 | dcordes | I guess it was cr2 who asked you about usb in 7200 vs 7200A because we came across odd differences |
| 19:22.10 | swetland | yeah, we're working on it, there will be a driver released. minor hurdles but definitely on the road to sort them out |
| 19:22.24 | swetland | yeah usb is *entirely* different on 7200. I've never even seen docs for it |
| 19:22.54 | dcordes | good to konw things are going on. what about bluetooth 7200 vs 7200A? |
| 19:23.09 | dcordes | according to QC schematic it is UART1 in 7200 |
| 19:23.20 | swetland | BT is usually an external part hanging off a uart |
| 19:23.39 | swetland | OEM could pick any number of devices. I think almost all of 'em speak HCI these days |
| 19:24.00 | swetland | UART1 supports a highspeed mode, so it is a popular candidate for BT |
| 19:24.15 | dcordes | at least that is what the scheme says for 7200 |
| 19:25.05 | dcordes | on my 7200 based device (I think you know which that is) I don't get further about bluetooth |
| 19:25.16 | dcordes | can't catch uart irq |
| 19:25.33 | dcordes | n'either read out uart memory regions |
| 19:25.49 | swetland | interesting. maybe it's owned by the arm9? |
| 19:25.59 | dcordes | no idea |
| 19:26.09 | swetland | the peripherals can be configured to allow/deny access from the different cores |
| 19:26.38 | swetland | so exactly what you can poke at will depend on what exact software is running on the ARM9/modem side (which gets to call the shots there) |
| 19:27.31 | dcordes | that is interesting |
| 19:28.08 | swetland | I've never worked with the "wince supporting" or "brew supporting" versions of the modem software (which I gather are a little different and may be further customized by the OEM), so I really don't know what configurations are typical there |
| 19:28.12 | dcordes | I can't take from the scheme where uart is in 7200 |
| 19:28.28 | dcordes | ok |
| 19:28.52 | dcordes | what are you working with to get the arm11 running? pistacchio microkernel? |
| 19:29.12 | swetland | in the linux-centric builds, the arm11 owns most of the peripherals (excluding the baseband/rf stuff and dsp) |
| 19:29.17 | swetland | we just run linux on the metal |
| 19:30.06 | dcordes | I mean the modem/baseband/rf thing |
| 19:30.09 | swetland | no sense virtualizing it under something else given that 1. the hardware has the necessary stuff to protect the baseband side and 2. the arm11 is a dedicated apps processor |
| 19:30.31 | swetland | don't really know the details there -- it's pretty much a black box provided by qualcomm |
| 19:31.01 | dcordes | I guess that black box is pistacchio microkernel |
| 19:31.05 | dcordes | afaik |
| 19:31.19 | dcordes | so one does not need to coke with that in order to have phone support? |
| 19:31.43 | swetland | well there's a shared memory region for the two cores to communicate with each other |
| 19:32.04 | swetland | the smd (shared memory driver), and stuff on top of that in our linux port handles it |
| 19:32.29 | dcordes | cool |
| 19:32.53 | dcordes | for now I hope we will handle bluetooth soon in order to be able to talk with the system |
| 19:33.08 | dcordes | I can't tell whether it boots or not since there is no in/output |
| 19:33.09 | swetland | qualcomm has been making changes to this, so our stuff is not likely to "just work" with older modem software |
| 19:33.28 | dcordes | i.e. kaiser eg? |
| 19:33.49 | swetland | though presumably somebody dedicated enough could reverse engineer it. again, it's not something I actually have full visibility into |
| 19:34.18 | dcordes | so that is depending on the very firmware/micrtokernel on the modem? |
| 19:34.25 | swetland | yeah |
| 19:34.37 | dcordes | do you think there is a chance that it will work with kaiser? |
| 19:34.43 | dcordes | (your setup) |
| 19:34.49 | dcordes | smd thing |
| 19:34.54 | dcordes | or is it too specific? |
| 19:35.00 | swetland | the kernel should be able to boot, etc. the shared memory stuff almost certainly will not be compatible |
| 19:35.46 | swetland | probably would provide a lot of clues for somebody trying to figure out how the older versions of it worked, but almost certainly won't just work with 'em "out of the box" |
| 19:35.58 | dcordes | I hear there are individuals that work close to the msm* microkernels |
| 19:36.27 | dcordes | trying to reverse engineer |
| 19:36.36 | dcordes | http://forum.modopo.com/diskussionen-rund-ums-modding/t-19197-ef81-qc-bqs-firmware-analyzer/page7.html |
| 19:36.51 | swetland | wouldn't surprise me. ship anything and somebody will spend time trying to figure out what makes it tick |
| 19:37.01 | dcordes | ^^ |
| 19:37.27 | dcordes | if I had the knowledge yet I would be taking that microkernel apart to the fullest |
| 19:38.26 | swetland | these guys may well know a lot more than I do about how the A9 side works. And I can't share what I do know, apart from what is embodied in the linux port, which is for an upcoming, not already-in-the-market version of the world |
| 19:38.58 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?auto_redirect=1&pagename=TitleSearch&s=kaiser that is what we have so far |
| 19:39.20 | dcordes | I understand that |
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| 19:44.45 | dcordes | swetland, thanks for the information on sd and bluetooth so far |
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| 19:52.44 | swetland | no problem. good luck to you guys. reverse engineering is fun stuff |
| 19:55.51 | dcordes | swetland, ya thanks. I have rather a passive roll though and don't really engineer anything |
| 19:55.57 | dcordes | I just run the programs on my device |
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| 20:25.58 | LunohoD | re |
| 20:33.25 | bernt | BabelO_: any new things with the keyboard driver? |
| 20:33.38 | BabelO | bernt: i m on it |
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| 21:36.39 | AlGe | does anyone remember how to start IrDa on the BA? I noticed only recently that most IRDA related config variables in the htcbiueangel/defconfig (from oe) were disabled, but now with a new kernel I still get kernel oopses and segfaults when I "irattach /dev/ttyS2". Is this the correct tty? |
| 21:37.53 | BabelO | AlGe: i use htcblueangel_static_defconfig and it works |
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| 21:40.50 | AlGe | is this file part of oe? |
| 21:41.48 | AlGe | but ttyS2 is correct? |
| 21:43.38 | AlGe | ahh, found it in th ekernel tree arch/arm/configs/htcblueangel_static_defconfig |
| 21:44.35 | AlGe | but this one contains: # CONFIG_IRDA is not set ?? |
| 21:59.16 | BabelO | AlGe: yes it is ttyS2 http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelProgress |
| 21:59.25 | BabelO | this page is old |
| 22:01.35 | AlGe | Could you please pastebin or similar your htcblueangel_static_defconfig so that I can compare, that in hh.org kernel seems not to have irda in it? |
| 22:04.59 | BabelO | long time i did not check it, i try 2.6.23 actually |
| 22:05.09 | BabelO | and mine is the same than at oe |
| 22:05.57 | AlGe | ok (you mean you didnt try irda long time?) |
| 22:06.13 | BabelO | yes |
| 22:06.40 | BabelO | i m updating my cvs now |
| 22:06.43 | AlGe | well, so it may be broken |
| 22:07.07 | BabelO | what did you select ? |
| 22:07.20 | AlGe | what do you mean? |
| 22:07.48 | AlGe | irda options in kernel config? |
| 22:09.58 | AlGe | CONFIG_IRDA=m, CONFIG_IRLAN=m, CONFIG_IRNET=m, CONFIG_IRCOMM=m, CONFIG_IRTTY_SIR=m, CONFIG_IRPORT_SIR=m, CONFIG_PXA_FICP=m |
| 22:13.49 | BabelO | AlGe: i ve to check myself, was working before |
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| 22:20.38 | AlGe | thanks, |
| 22:20.38 | AlGe | BTW, what is the reason that so much BA drivers dont work as a module? I tried just with a blueangel_kp module with no luck... |
| 22:27.06 | BabelO | AlGe: strange because i use blueangel_kp for a longtime without problem |
| 22:34.07 | BabelO | AlGe: this irda support you speak is just for network |
| 22:35.18 | AlGe | ok. maybe. but dont I need some SIR or FIR stuff? |
| 22:35.51 | BabelO | i make a build with latest hh kernel, make is started ;) |
| 22:37.40 | AlGe | blueangel_kp: when I tried to load it I got a freeze. sideeffect of other config options if it it working as module for you? or I just missed something ... |
| 22:38.20 | BabelO | AlGe: you just need evdev module i think |
| 22:51.21 | BabelO | AlGe: compiled |
| 23:06.25 | BabelO | oh ir does not work ;) yes i look |
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| 23:26.18 | paulproteus | Evenin', all. |
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| 23:33.22 | goxboxlive | good night |
| 23:50.40 | BabelO | AlGe ? :( |
| 23:50.43 | BabelO | ok tomorrow then |