| 00:01.45 | ellisway | appleII damn i remember them although never hada II myself i had the super400 :) |
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| 07:21.19 | paulproteus | Hey goxboxlive. |
| 07:21.26 | paulproteus | Maybe you coming online means I really should go to sleep. |
| 07:21.55 | goxboxlive | :-) good morning |
| 08:18.26 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=shortlog;h=4.3.1-snapshot |
| 08:18.32 | paulproteus | I'm tracking the qtopia_snapshots in git now. |
| 08:18.37 | paulproteus | Automatically. (-: |
| 08:18.49 | paulproteus | Every night I check for a new snapshot and import it. |
| 08:20.33 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: great, could you also make sure that device htcuniversal is in that git tree? |
| 08:20.46 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Tomorrow, for now I *must* fall asleep (-: |
| 08:20.52 | goxboxlive | This will make my job so much easier |
| 08:20.57 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 08:21.04 | paulproteus | I *know*, mine too. |
| 08:22.22 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: isent that just to make a symlink to htcuniversal? |
| 08:23.09 | paulproteus | I want to try to use branches properly, so that it's always easy to see the diff between our tree and the current official snapshot. |
| 08:23.13 | paulproteus | Also bye bye sleep for real. |
| 08:23.42 | goxboxlive | good night :-) |
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| 09:16.14 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: how do i checkout the sources |
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| 09:54.59 | ellisway | morning all |
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| 09:58.51 | Pryan2 | hi |
| 09:59.52 | Pryan | im in holidays in Alicante ( spain ) |
| 10:01.49 | Pryan | dcordes hola tio |
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| 10:41.35 | dcordes | hi ellisway, Pryan others |
| 10:41.50 | dcordes | merry xmas to everybody celebrating it |
| 10:45.02 | Pryan | hahahh, im drinking champagne |
| 10:45.15 | Pryan | celebrating xmas |
| 10:47.03 | Pryan | after this ill start the development, arround day 4 |
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| 11:25.49 | BabelO | goxboxlive you need to define depot/qtopiacore/target as qtdir and export bin directory from same path to use it for qmake |
| 11:26.05 | BabelO | bbl |
| 12:14.23 | goxboxlive | oh man i'm still cleaning :-(( |
| 12:18.18 | goxboxlive | BableO: I have it like this in the make line: QTDIR=/path/blbla is that enogh? |
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| 12:36.21 | dcordes | goxboxlive, messing with qtopia builds? |
| 12:45.54 | goxboxlive | dcordes: i am trying to build roadmap for Qtopia |
| 12:46.03 | goxboxlive | planing to test it onNEo |
| 12:46.20 | dcordes | I would like to try it but all I have is kaiser and akita |
| 12:46.36 | dcordes | akiser and kaita |
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| 12:54.14 | goxboxlive | dcordes: ok |
| 12:54.57 | dcordes | goxboxlive, or have you heard of people firing qtopia on the zauri=? |
| 12:55.09 | goxboxlive | dcordes: yes |
| 12:56.08 | goxboxlive | dcordes: the sources for zaurusclamshell and c3200 exist as a device in the source |
| 12:56.16 | dcordes | hey that's great |
| 12:56.25 | dcordes | I took a look once at google |
| 12:56.46 | dcordes | all I found was that greenphone site which did only mention greenphone and gta01 as machines |
| 12:56.52 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 12:57.07 | goxboxlive | dcordes: http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=tree;f=devices;h=1405cc1fc8ccb1e2078f6dd700ad25e75d7d3348;hb=4.3.1-snapshot |
| 12:57.56 | goxboxlive | the sources for the officaial machines. We also have for openezx and htc devices. But they are not supported by Trolltech |
| 12:58.58 | goxboxlive | well back to cleaning :-) |
| 13:03.10 | dcordes | goxboxlive, so how would I go about getting zaurus machine type into the source? |
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| 13:51.20 | cr2 | hi dcordes |
| 14:02.23 | cr2 | goxboxlive: from xda-dev -> "3. There's any way to boost this openwoko? Seem kind of slow... :(" |
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| 14:06.20 | goxboxlive | cr2: what you mean? |
| 14:06.32 | goxboxlive | openwoko on universal? |
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| 14:10.24 | goxboxlive | cr2: switch to portrait mode, and it will speed up a little. To get it in portrait mode you have to either held the power button, or the cam but. dont remember.A new menu will eppear |
| 14:10.26 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 14:11.34 | goxboxlive | BabelO: check this out: http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=summary |
| 14:12.24 | cr2 | goxboxlive: athena for gx accel :) or hermes... |
| 14:12.49 | goxboxlive | :-) cr2 openmoko on the ficphone is faster than on universal. |
| 14:12.56 | goxboxlive | or maybe the same |
| 14:12.59 | goxboxlive | i think |
| 14:13.20 | goxboxlive | I have only tested openmoko on the ficphone once. I flashed Qtopi aback to it |
| 14:13.26 | cr2 | impossible :) |
| 14:13.42 | goxboxlive | cr2: nope |
| 14:14.18 | goxboxlive | it's true. I thinks it is because if the 128MB ram, and also it runs from flash and not sd |
| 14:14.40 | cr2 | ok, flash is faster, that#s true |
| 14:14.53 | goxboxlive | Magician is also fatser than universal with openmoko, but they use diffrent themes so it'snot compareable |
| 14:15.00 | goxboxlive | s/fatser/faster/ |
| 14:15.05 | cr2 | do you run qdsync and other weird stuff in background ? |
| 14:15.21 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes i gues |
| 14:15.28 | cr2 | magician uses SRAM ? it's 1/4 size also |
| 14:15.40 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 14:15.58 | cr2 | is it possible to disable qdsync and things ? |
| 14:16.00 | goxboxlive | cr2: did you see that paulproteus had made a git tree for Qtopia |
| 14:16.05 | cr2 | as an option |
| 14:16.17 | cr2 | goxboxlive: no. |
| 14:16.28 | goxboxlive | http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=summary |
| 14:17.21 | cr2 | is there qualcomm support ? |
| 14:17.43 | goxboxlive | I hate the way Trolltech is doing it. It's a lot of work to udate the source when they have made a new snapshot. Now with the gitree it will be a lot easier. He will also include htcuviversal, and probably other devices too. |
| 14:18.00 | goxboxlive | cr2: we will rename the htcuniversal to qualcomm when we have it done |
| 14:18.19 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:18.39 | goxboxlive | i will upload openezx to have that supported to |
| 14:18.53 | cr2 | nice. |
| 14:19.00 | goxboxlive | I have to learn git thoug |
| 14:19.00 | cr2 | does the phone work on a780 ? |
| 14:19.59 | goxboxlive | cr2: no, one guy contacted me to make the device forlder. I sent him mywork so he could work further on it. Since i allready had made the keyboarddriver he would go straight on the gsm part |
| 14:20.25 | goxboxlive | then he should take gprs he said |
| 14:20.42 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:21.01 | cr2 | i guess gps does not work too. |
| 14:21.17 | goxboxlive | it sgould work, but no application for it as far as i know. |
| 14:21.26 | cr2 | gpsd ? |
| 14:23.48 | BabelO | hi cr2, goxboxlive |
| 14:24.18 | cr2 | hi BabelO |
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| 14:24.27 | cr2 | goxboxlive: have you compiled roadmap ? |
| 14:24.38 | goxboxlive_ | They say gps 80% |
| 14:24.54 | goxboxlive_ | http://wiki.openezx.org/Project_Status |
| 14:25.00 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: no it's failing |
| 14:27.06 | cr2 | goxboxlive: nothing new on gps |
| 14:27.57 | cr2 | hehe. one can't use haret to sniff the serial gps data ;) soldering is unavoidable. |
| 14:28.13 | cr2 | BabelO: can you compile roadmap ? |
| 14:28.38 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: it's probably a good idea to add roadmap to qtopia git too. |
| 14:29.08 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: i agree, but first it _must_ compile |
| 14:29.38 | cr2 | BabelO: help :) |
| 14:30.33 | dcordes | hej cr2 |
| 14:30.57 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the xanadux version diverted from mainline a bit. mainline does not use popt now. but it supports a much better layer support |
| 14:31.12 | cr2 | dcordes: i've added irq names from android kernel |
| 14:31.28 | cr2 | dcordes: you also never see the SD irqs ?? |
| 14:32.10 | dcordes | that's right |
| 14:32.13 | dcordes | only insert me think |
| 14:32.34 | dcordes | the spamming irqs are display something |
| 14:32.45 | dcordes | so that can't be sd/wifi/*# |
| 14:32.48 | cr2 | which irqs are spamming ? |
| 14:33.08 | dcordes | phew |
| 14:33.22 | dcordes | I'm on windoze right now maybe I have a paste around let me google |
| 14:34.12 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:34.23 | dcordes | December 18th, 2007 at 4:57pm MST |
| 14:34.23 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.28 | dcordes | that has to be me |
| 14:34.34 | dcordes | they do display refresh afaik |
| 14:34.50 | dcordes | they only spam when display is activy - setting display state to off with the haret command, makes them shut up |
| 14:35.21 | dcordes | but that's a nice crhistmas present with the irqs |
| 14:35.23 | dcordes | ^^ |
| 14:35.33 | dcordes | did you take over all of my old wikipage? |
| 14:36.20 | BabelO | Yes i can coùpile roadmap without problem |
| 14:36.59 | cr2 | dcordes: 16 and 19 are ok :) |
| 14:37.02 | BabelO | goxboxlive_ did you try like i say? |
| 14:37.15 | cr2 | BabelO: why goxboxlive_ can't compile it ? |
| 14:38.11 | cr2 | dcordes: "speaker, camera related ?" is probably sound in both cases |
| 14:39.02 | dcordes | hmm we will let camera related with a question mark for now - |
| 14:39.07 | cr2 | dcordes: the BT is 4mbit, maybe that explains why it's not on an UART. i'm still wondering how it's connected. |
| 14:39.19 | dcordes | I think I made sure there was no sound when I sorted the camera thing for |
| 14:39.23 | dcordes | argh no mid mouse paste |
| 14:39.25 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.39 | dcordes | 4mbit? what does that mean? |
| 14:40.19 | cr2 | bluetooth speed is 4mbit |
| 14:40.26 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.44 | BabelO | cr2 : he need to use buimd directory and not sources |
| 14:41.20 | cr2 | BabelO: can it be added to the git tree ? |
| 14:42.18 | dcordes | me>brother's>parent's |
| 14:42.53 | dcordes | and mmutrace xmas menu ^^ |
| 14:43.08 | dcordes | cr2, BabelO others have a nice day |
| 14:50.39 | BabelO | cr2 this directory contain binary |
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| 14:51.47 | cr2 | BabelO: which one ? |
| 14:53.13 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: yes, i have qtdir=/ but it still failes |
| 14:53.22 | goxboxlive_ | or QTDIR=/ |
| 14:53.57 | goxboxlive_ | ls |
| 14:56.19 | BabelO | goxboxlive do you locate target directory i mean? |
| 14:57.52 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: how do i do that? THis is my line |
| 14:58.29 | goxboxlive_ | pastebin.no/2943 |
| 14:59.21 | cr2 | http://pastebin.no/2943 |
| 15:01.17 | goxboxlive_ | ANd this is the bug: http://pastebin.no/2944 |
| 15:02.33 | BabelO | goxboxlive_ under your build directory, you have qtopiacore/target ? |
| 15:03.03 | goxboxlive_ | roadmap build dir? |
| 15:03.12 | goxboxlive_ | or qtopia? |
| 15:04.20 | BabelO | qtopia build dir |
| 15:05.03 | goxboxlive_ | yes i have qtopiacore/target |
| 15:05.33 | BabelO | ok then export QTDIR for this directory |
| 15:05.48 | goxboxlive_ | ok |
| 15:06.29 | BabelO | then export subdirectory bin into your path for qmake |
| 15:07.32 | goxboxlive_ | ok, i have to test it later. thnaks anyway |
| 15:09.13 | BabelO | goxboxlive_ then qmake use arm specifoc settings |
| 15:14.20 | goxboxlive_ | please give me th eline how to export subdirectory bin. i have no idea what it is |
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| 15:53.28 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 15:57.11 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Can you try a "wi 10" with "addlist traces cp 15 0 2 0 0" ? (The cp15,2 register stores the mmu base.) |
| 15:57.53 | Pryan | hi kevin2 |
| 15:59.06 | Kevin2 | Hi Pryan |
| 16:00.58 | Pryan | when i got linux on athena ill sayd you if your driver works for me |
| 16:05.13 | Pryan | there is a site to download the kernel with it ? |
| 16:08.59 | Pryan | the latest kernel of hh.org and a config file for athena |
| 16:10.14 | Pryan | cvs kernel if its possible |
| 16:10.37 | Kevin2 | Pryan: You need to use git -- see git.linuxtogo.org |
| 16:10.45 | Pryan | or a standard kernel with your driver kevin2 |
| 16:10.47 | Pryan | ok |
| 16:13.01 | Pryan | and it is cloned to the current directory ? |
| 16:13.21 | Pryan | and the config ? |
| 16:16.33 | Kevin2 | Pryan: The driver is in the "work" branch. Someone will need to setup Athena to work with the driver. (I only made the driver work with Hermes.) |
| 16:17.25 | Pryan | ok, cr2 have a athena, doesnt ? |
| 16:18.02 | Pryan | its only to enable it in .config kernel |
| 16:20.29 | Kevin2 | No, one has to put together the list of keys and spi config. See arch/arm/mach-s3c2442/htchermes/htchermes.c |
| 16:21.10 | Pryan | ah ok |
| 16:22.04 | Pryan | im impatient to use linux on my athena |
| 16:22.04 | Pryan | hehhehe |
| 16:41.04 | Pryan | kevin2 do you want to make this driver work for athena ? |
| 16:41.16 | Pryan | you have the keys |
| 16:41.18 | paulproteus | goxboxlive_, cr2, Good morning all. |
| 16:41.28 | paulproteus | Let me make sure that git repository can be cloned by people other than me. |
| 16:41.32 | Pryan | hi paulproteus |
| 16:41.59 | Pryan | ok |
| 16:42.11 | paulproteus | Morning Pryan. |
| 16:42.15 | Pryan | its cloned to the current dir ? |
| 16:57.52 | Pryan | paulproteus its cloned to the current dir ? |
| 16:58.35 | paulproteus | Pryan, Currently you can only access it over SSH. |
| 16:58.40 | paulproteus | I'm fixing that now. |
| 16:58.48 | Pryan | ok |
| 16:59.31 | Pryan | when you finish, everybody can access how git.linuxtogo.org explains ? |
| 17:01.19 | paulproteus | I'll explain once it's ready. |
| 17:01.28 | Pryan | ok |
| 19:35.19 | paulproteus | Pryan, git://git.asheesh.org/qtopia_snapshot.git - You can clone that now. |
| 19:35.31 | paulproteus | (as documented at http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=summary ) |
| 19:35.44 | paulproteus | I'll write this up on handhelds.org sometime, I figure. |
| 19:37.38 | paulproteus | cr2, I'm interested in if you have anything to say about Qtopia/this git repo, btw. |
| 21:24.41 | goxboxlive_ | oh man i need a break. 6 kids, all under 4 year.......... They make a lot of noise :-/ |
| 21:26.42 | paulproteus | goxboxlive_, I updated http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Qtopia with the git info. |
| 21:27.37 | paulproteus | I haven't added the work from ymerejt yet, though. |
| 21:27.53 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: good, remember to add universal. Make me an account and i'll add openezx too. |
| 21:28.07 | paulproteus | I'm confused - what exactly is openezx? |
| 21:28.38 | goxboxlive | will the git be updated everytime trolltech update their snapshot? |
| 21:28.42 | paulproteus | Yes! (-: |
| 21:29.08 | goxboxlive | openezx is same as we htc-linux. It's a crew that develop drivers for phones |
| 21:29.20 | goxboxlive | only they work on motorola phone, and we universal phones. |
| 21:29.31 | paulproteus | I see - are they using this Qtopia stuff at all? |
| 21:29.44 | goxboxlive | But i have made QTopia for openezx since most of them are gtk fans |
| 21:29.50 | goxboxlive | yes i am |
| 21:29.52 | paulproteus | Ah, I see. |
| 21:29.57 | paulproteus | Great then. |
| 21:30.29 | goxboxlive | we should also adapt something from the opie2source to it, like tetrix (tetris) and screenshot. |
| 21:30.34 | goxboxlive | ad some widgets |
| 21:31.06 | goxboxlive | well i have to go back to my guests. |
| 21:31.36 | paulproteus | Sounds good - come back sometime and we'll talk more. |
| 21:49.39 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Once we have everything in git I'm going to really want to have a standard way of building Qtopia binaries. |
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| 22:45.30 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=shortlog;h=htcuniversal has all of ymerejt's changes now. |
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| 23:11.56 | dcordes | cr2 not on- scary :) |
| 23:16.45 | paulproteus | Whoa, that is scary! |
| 23:24.50 | dcordes | paulproteus, what machines do you own? |
| 23:25.06 | paulproteus | dcordes, Universal, Neo 1973 (though I'm about to lend it out), Magician. |
| 23:25.20 | paulproteus | The Universal is the one I'm using lately since it actually works well (even though I get teased at least daily about how large it is!). |
| 23:25.26 | dcordes | I would like to have a neo just because of the display |
| 23:25.33 | paulproteus | The Uni is 640x480 also. |
| 23:25.36 | dcordes | isn't magician one of the omap based? |
| 23:25.41 | paulproteus | I don't remember? |
| 23:25.47 | dcordes | ok |
| 23:25.49 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 23:26.44 | dcordes | I have seen 640x480 on a pda (zaurus also has vga) but dpi of neo is unbeatable isn't it? |
| 23:27.01 | paulproteus | Yes, unbeatable, but also nearly unjustifiable. (-; |
| 23:27.18 | paulproteus | Where are you based? |
| 23:27.18 | dcordes | lol you mean compared to neo usability? |
| 23:27.24 | dcordes | germany |
| 23:27.27 | paulproteus | Cool. |
| 23:27.29 | dcordes | you? |
| 23:27.43 | paulproteus | USA, usually San Francisco, though right now I'm at my parents' house for Christmastime. |
| 23:27.50 | paulproteus | parents' house in Rochester, NY, that is. |
| 23:28.31 | dcordes | my location is usually NRW and I just returned from my parents which is not that far |
| 23:28.42 | dcordes | same town ^^ |
| 23:29.40 | dcordes | paulproteus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Rhine-Westphalia ;) |
| 23:32.44 | paulproteus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester,_New_York then! |
| 23:34.07 | dcordes | damn! home of the garbage plate |
| 23:34.12 | dcordes | looks yummy |
| 23:34.56 | paulproteus | It pales in comparison to the amazing sausage and schnitzel and kraut your country produces. |
| 23:35.42 | dcordes | lots of good krauts here ^^ |
| 23:36.24 | dcordes | I would like to have one of those hot dog garbage plates |
| 23:47.32 | dcordes | paulproteus, did you ever try stuff with magician? |
| 23:47.51 | paulproteus | dcordes, Yes but... |
| 23:47.52 | paulproteus | ttyl |
| 23:48.51 | dcordes | paulproteus, what do you mean by ttyl? |