| 00:00.29 | eway | [23:46] <Pryan> this wifi is a complete shit |
| 00:00.41 | Pryan | ok |
| 00:00.52 | Pryan | <eway> Pryan i have 2 universals + access to another 3 universals also access to a htc touch a wizard a magician a himalaya an ameo and a prophet |
| 00:00.56 | Pryan | wow |
| 00:01.01 | Pryan | so you can test enough my distro |
| 00:01.06 | Pryan | based on genttoo for htc |
| 00:01.11 | Pryan | when i have it ready |
| 00:01.18 | Pryan | atm im installing my desktop |
| 00:03.19 | Pryan | do you want to test it eway |
| 00:04.29 | eway | not really |
| 00:04.45 | eway | 1 distro is pretty much the same as the next to me |
| 00:04.56 | Pryan | you only need a usb stick |
| 00:05.14 | Pryan | what ? i dont understand |
| 00:06.32 | eway | i`m not into testing multiple distros on the devices |
| 00:06.46 | eway | more intrested in having a working device |
| 00:06.54 | Pryan | ah well |
| 00:07.10 | Pryan | this depends on the kernel |
| 00:07.28 | Pryan | my work is stetical |
| 00:08.37 | eway | your work to create an arm based distro is all well and good but doesn`t intrest me to have a desktop distro running on a mobile device |
| 00:09.01 | Pryan | yeah |
| 00:09.08 | eway | gentoo arm based |
| 00:09.18 | Pryan | but its the best desktop distro |
| 00:09.35 | eway | coughbsdcough |
| 00:09.36 | Pryan | and why not using it on mobile |
| 00:09.41 | Pryan | hahahha |
| 00:09.56 | Pryan | its bsd based |
| 00:10.36 | eway | now on the other hand if you were building say netbsd for the devices tthen i`d be more intrested |
| 00:10.45 | eway | but gentoo is not bsd based |
| 00:11.47 | Pryan | well, it has the wheel group. a ports based package sysstem |
| 00:12.07 | eway | heh |
| 00:12.19 | eway | any distro can have a group called wheel |
| 00:12.26 | Pryan | netbsd for mobile devices is quite crazy |
| 00:12.36 | eway | y |
| 00:12.41 | Pryan | but only gentoo have ir |
| 00:12.46 | Pryan | it |
| 00:12.56 | eway | netbsd is ported to more platforms than linux is |
| 00:13.03 | eway | no |
| 00:13.26 | eway | gentoo isn`t the only distro to have a group called wheel by default |
| 00:13.35 | Pryan | well, gentoo based distros |
| 00:13.53 | Pryan | gentoo is the first i know to have it |
| 00:15.58 | eway | slackware has a wheel group from what i remember and is a more mature distro than gentoo |
| 00:16.06 | eway | and uses a bsd style init |
| 00:16.17 | Pryan | hmm, i dont know |
| 00:17.33 | eway | anyway the userland isn`t that important |
| 00:18.01 | eway | the kernel is the important thing |
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| 00:18.33 | Pryan2 | wb |
| 00:18.50 | Pryan2 | im getting battery off |
| 00:19.01 | Pryan2 | must to shut down wifi |
| 00:20.42 | Pryan2 | well, lets see how goes my proyect |
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| 01:34.20 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 02:10.06 | Pryan2 | hi |
| 02:10.58 | Pryan2 | is there a cvs of your kernel version Kevin2 ? |
| 02:13.20 | Pryan2 | for the keyboard driver |
| 02:15.31 | Pryan2 | quick, im on party |
| 02:19.08 | Pryan2 | and with low battery |
| 02:19.18 | Pryan2 | kevin2 |
| 02:45.15 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. Pryan2 - still around? |
| 02:45.43 | Kevin2 | Pryan2 - Check out git.linuxtogo.org |
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| 05:12.02 | knoppix | hi all from my boot cd |
| 05:12.11 | knoppix | i come of a partty |
| 05:14.08 | knoppix | im trying to copy binaries from my boot cd to my root fs |
| 05:14.27 | knoppix | because it doesnt compile on my root fs |
| 05:15.29 | knoppix | i exit, lets see |
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| 05:35.26 | Pryan | hi all |
| 05:43.46 | Pryan | i come from drink |
| 05:43.51 | Pryan | hehheheehe |
| 05:45.07 | Pryan | so im pretty drunkness |
| 05:48.23 | Pryan | hhehhe |
| 05:48.38 | Pryan | somebody on |
| 05:48.50 | Pryan | i like to speak |
| 05:49.18 | Pryan | i am compilling on my host pc |
| 06:01.34 | Pryan | nobody ? |
| 06:02.01 | Pryan | it give me compilation errors |
| 06:09.33 | Pryan | ill post it into bugs error |
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| 07:18.57 | goxboxlive | god morning |
| 07:19.19 | paulproteus | Morning. |
| 07:19.29 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, I've been using my phone all day and calling people and receiving SMS. |
| 07:19.39 | paulproteus | It's great, except when people tease me about the size. (-; |
| 07:19.55 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 07:20.12 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: i need some help. Coudl you write some scripts? |
| 07:20.16 | paulproteus | Yes, maybe? |
| 07:20.22 | paulproteus | But it may have to wait until I wake up! |
| 07:20.28 | goxboxlive | for enabling disable wifi/blyetooth/IR and |
| 07:20.33 | paulproteus | Interesting. |
| 07:20.35 | goxboxlive | yes of course |
| 07:20.53 | paulproteus | I can't decide if I should stay awake or go to sleep. |
| 07:21.07 | paulproteus | Usually that means I'm too tired to think or feel, and therefore should go to sleep. |
| 07:22.29 | goxboxlive | bb 5 min |
| 07:22.32 | paulproteus | Sure. |
| 07:30.38 | goxboxlive | re |
| 07:31.03 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 07:31.39 | paulproteus | rehi |
| 07:33.37 | goxboxlive | can you make me thoose scrpits? |
| 07:34.11 | paulproteus | I'm too sleepy to consider it for now. |
| 07:34.26 | goxboxlive | i also think we could make a gprs script |
| 07:36.05 | eway | morning all |
| 07:36.31 | goxboxlive | hi ecze |
| 07:36.35 | goxboxlive | sorry eway |
| 07:37.18 | eway | hi goxboxlive |
| 07:37.28 | eway | paulproteus youre lucky |
| 07:37.40 | paulproteus | eway, How's that? (-: |
| 07:37.46 | eway | i still get the no network issue on both of my universals |
| 07:37.57 | paulproteus | eway, Did you downgrade to WM5? |
| 07:38.09 | eway | i`ve never had wm6 |
| 07:38.11 | paulproteus | I did that, and then I booted Qtopia, and then I stopped and started Qtopia without rebooting, and then it worked. |
| 07:38.16 | paulproteus | Does cu work for you? |
| 07:39.31 | paulproteus | Also did you try stop + start Qtopia? |
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| 07:49.14 | paulproteus | eway, Hi? (-: |
| 07:49.19 | eway-3g | grr my damn lns just fell over |
| 07:49.23 | paulproteus | lns? |
| 07:49.58 | eway-3g | dsl router endpoint at the datacentre |
| 07:50.09 | eway-3g | well dsl network endpoint |
| 07:50.10 | paulproteus | Ack. |
| 07:50.44 | eway-3g | yeh already i can see 5 people on hold on my 0845 number |
| 07:51.52 | eway-3g | i should have used a cisco router rather than a linux box |
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| 08:01.03 | paulproteus | good1 |
| 08:01.39 | ellisway | heh |
| 08:01.46 | ellisway | yeh |
| 08:02.01 | ellisway | my own personal domain name |
| 08:13.20 | ellisway | 1 more user still on the phones then i`ll be back |
| 08:16.57 | Pryan | hheehe |
| 08:17.32 | ellisway | k back |
| 08:17.47 | Pryan | im crosscompilling the arm gcc |
| 08:18.02 | ellisway | oh forgot 2 mention i also have access to a hermes handset aswell |
| 08:18.04 | Pryan | bt it give me errors |
| 08:21.26 | ellisway | ok |
| 08:21.46 | ellisway | paulproteus i dont have a build enviroment to create uucp / cu packages to try |
| 08:22.24 | ellisway | as for stoping and then restarting qtopia yes i tried that |
| 08:22.54 | ellisway | also enabled the atchat modem and mux in log.conf |
| 08:23.00 | ellisway | made no difference |
| 08:23.26 | ellisway | went also from the new tmobile rom to the old rom yesterday on 1 handset |
| 08:23.34 | ellisway | made no difference either |
| 08:27.41 | goxboxlive | cr2: are you awake? |
| 08:29.07 | ellisway | not sure if ive mentionedthat 1 of my devices is still simlockedwhilethe otheris unlocked |
| 08:32.26 | ellisway | goxboxlive when u create the next set of images could you add cu to them ? |
| 08:34.47 | goxboxlive | ellisway: No, you can install it yourself |
| 08:34.57 | goxboxlive | ipkg update && upkg install cu |
| 08:35.07 | goxboxlive | s/upkg/ipkg/ |
| 08:36.13 | ellisway | k |
| 08:37.09 | ellisway | will boot now and do that |
| 08:37.14 | goxboxlive | good |
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| 08:48.20 | ellisway | HMM IPKG UPDATE FAILES WITH 404S FOR AL SITES TRIED |
| 08:48.30 | ellisway | eeeks caps |
| 08:58.13 | ellisway | goxboxlive do you know which off the feeds cu is in ? |
| 08:59.53 | goxboxlive | ellisway, why dont you just install it? |
| 08:59.58 | goxboxlive | dont download it |
| 09:00.08 | goxboxlive | it's should be in armv5te repo |
| 09:08.32 | ellisway | not there |
| 09:08.51 | goxboxlive | cr2: i need to build roadmap for Qtopia. And i have n clue how to do it. Help me out so i can test it on the NEO. I have gps working now on it |
| 09:09.21 | goxboxlive | ellisway: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=cu |
| 09:14.00 | ellisway | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/base/cu_1.07-r2_armv5te.ipk ? |
| 09:14.34 | ellisway | or should i take it from the 2007 feed ? |
| 09:15.05 | ellisway | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv5te/base/cu_1.07-r2_armv5te.ipk |
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| 09:23.10 | ellisway | ok cu installed |
| 09:23.13 | ellisway | and connected |
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| 09:36.23 | goxboxlive | ellisway: have yo tested it? |
| 09:36.32 | goxboxlive | does it work? |
| 09:36.48 | ellisway | modem replys ok for most of what i`ve tried |
| 09:38.08 | goxboxlive | ellisway: ok, what radio do u use? |
| 09:39.05 | ellisway | currently this is 1.10.03 |
| 09:39.19 | ellisway | from the old tmobile uk rom |
| 09:41.20 | ellisway | although saying that it seems to have stoped responding |
| 09:41.35 | goxboxlive | ellisway: I have no idea then why Qtopia isent working for you. Do u use pin code on your sim? |
| 09:41.51 | ellisway | nope |
| 09:44.58 | ellisway | ok |
| 09:45.15 | ellisway | not sure if i should have run all of the at commands i did |
| 09:45.37 | ellisway | i used at commands from the logs yesterday |
| 09:45.55 | ellisway | after atq1 the modem hasn`t responded |
| 09:46.13 | ellisway | but like i said i`m not sure if i should have run that cmd or not |
| 09:48.17 | goxboxlive | atq1 was just a test |
| 09:48.28 | ellisway | k |
| 09:48.28 | goxboxlive | ate1 and atv1 is good |
| 09:48.47 | ellisway | initial response to both ate1 and atv1 was ok |
| 09:49.04 | ellisway | local echo was enabled |
| 09:50.08 | ellisway | at+cfun=1 was ok |
| 09:50.16 | ellisway | and also at+cops=0 |
| 09:51.42 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 09:52.22 | ellisway | anyothers i should run ? |
| 10:27.12 | ellisway | weird |
| 10:27.23 | ellisway | modem is working inside of qtopia |
| 10:27.48 | ellisway | no audio alerts ? |
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| 10:49.41 | ellisway | weird |
| 10:50.06 | ellisway | i done a reboot of the device and again got the no network |
| 10:50.14 | ellisway | droped back to the shell |
| 10:50.56 | ellisway | done chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttyS0 |
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| 10:51.06 | ellisway | then done ate1 |
| 10:51.09 | ellisway | atv1 |
| 10:51.16 | ellisway | at+cfun=1 |
| 10:51.25 | ellisway | at+cops=0 |
| 10:51.32 | ellisway | then came out of cu |
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| 10:51.49 | ellisway | started qtopia again and network is back |
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| 11:46.11 | hoeba | hi all, i was just brave enough to install harret, acording to the howto on http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/README. now my magican is empty !?!? |
| 11:46.34 | hoeba | it booted, the screen went white and all i could do is soft reset |
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| 12:57.19 | par | paulproteus: which phone do you have? |
| 12:59.49 | par | jeez i have this ir foldable keyboard that works under pocketpc2k3 |
| 13:00.19 | par | i don't know enough about what is in the driver forit |
| 13:00.31 | par | i wish i could get it to work under xanadux |
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| 13:11.26 | Pryan | hi |
| 13:14.57 | par | hi |
| 13:15.04 | par | what phone do you have pryan |
| 13:15.57 | goxboxlive | cr2: there? |
| 13:18.31 | par | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.49 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 13:19.20 | par | i saw earlier you were talking with someone about using cu to dial out for gprs data |
| 13:19.54 | goxboxlive | no, not cu and gprs. Just normal gsm |
| 13:19.59 | par | oh ok |
| 13:20.14 | par | well, still under normal gsm.. its e4fective right? |
| 13:20.23 | par | whats the bandwidth |
| 13:20.48 | goxboxlive | cu cant be used for functional use, just for developing |
| 13:21.29 | par | oh ok.. so when passing all the arguments to make a gprs data connection under gpe.. what does it use.. |
| 13:21.45 | goxboxlive | you need to set up ppp, and it works like gprs with wince. But alot of work to make it run, and i have only tested it once |
| 13:21.48 | par | what program |
| 13:21.57 | goxboxlive | no, just terminal |
| 13:22.02 | par | oh ok.. |
| 13:22.10 | par | so its ppd |
| 13:22.14 | par | pppd |
| 13:22.24 | goxboxlive | i just did a test to see if it where working. |
| 13:23.07 | par | the good part is at least pppd gives it an interface |
| 13:24.14 | par | i have seen that other people are using it with success |
| 13:25.34 | par | my goal is to have the phone handle a wirelessad-hoc connected pc and perform ip forwarding and masquerading (nat) to the internet connection (the gprs data link) |
| 13:27.40 | par | its a shame that the chipset used in the HTC phones with wifi doesn't support softap |
| 13:28.06 | par | then you could use your phone as a full Access Point |
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| 13:32.01 | Pryan2 | par athena |
| 13:32.11 | par | oh,cool |
| 13:32.26 | par | i have the blueangel and the apache |
| 13:32.41 | Pryan2 | yeah |
| 13:32.57 | Pryan2 | well |
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| 14:05.24 | Pryan2 | hi |
| 14:06.04 | Pryan2 | im in train, because this i rejoin so much, i loose gprs connection |
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| 14:13.34 | Pryan | wb |
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| 14:47.18 | Pryan | wb |
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| 15:17.17 | hoeba | hi all, i was just brave enough to install harret, acording to the howto on http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/README |
| 15:17.19 | hoeba | it booted, the screen went white and all i could do is soft reset. |
| 15:17.21 | hoeba | Has anyone had more succes with a magican? |
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| 15:29.23 | Pryan2 | wb |
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| 15:36.30 | Pryan | hi age |
| 15:37.14 | Pryan | AlGe |
| 15:37.19 | Pryan | sorry |
| 15:38.47 | Pryan | hola. dcordes |
| 15:39.07 | AlGe | hi all, |
| 15:39.07 | AlGe | after some months I tried a recent gpe-image build on my BA, and I'm really impressed, wlan works now without a problem, suspend works and bluetooth too. good work guys :-) |
| 15:39.36 | Pryan | well done |
| 15:42.35 | AlGe | I saw some posts during the last days regarding the battery monitor (which still sees nothing on my BA) depending on the battery model? Is there something I can do to get my battery recognized by the ds1wm master? Well I should try all my different batteries first, ... |
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| 15:44.40 | Pryan2 | on my phone there is needed more support |
| 15:44.44 | Pryan2 | wb |
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| 15:50.01 | Pryan2 | wb |
| 15:57.15 | dcordes | cr2, did you read the results of mmutrace for UARTs on kaiser yesterday before I went off? |
| 15:59.04 | dcordes | cr2, (I didn't see anything mmutrace like in the output when I made usb traffic) I wonder if this is of informational value and if so what does it tell us? |
| 15:59.32 | dcordes | cr2, furthermore I wonder what we can do about bluetooth to find out how it operates |
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| 16:08.03 | dcordes | hi kiozen |
| 16:08.15 | kiozen | hi :) |
| 16:08.31 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 16:08.38 | kiozen | hi all :) |
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| 16:09.05 | goxboxlive | kiozen: do you have any gps app that run on Qtopia? |
| 16:09.31 | kiozen | I have got an app but still without gps, sorry |
| 16:10.21 | kiozen | gpsd does not like my Garmin :( |
| 16:10.44 | kiozen | thus I can't simulate gps access on the pc |
| 16:10.45 | goxboxlive | ok, i got my gps working on the ficphone, and want to test it . |
| 16:10.54 | kiozen | I have read |
| 16:11.03 | goxboxlive | k :-) |
| 16:11.09 | kiozen | but I can't tell you how to get roadmap running |
| 16:11.25 | kiozen | it's a bit user unfriendly ;) |
| 16:11.26 | goxboxlive | i'll wait for cr2 |
| 16:11.32 | goxboxlive | i know |
| 16:11.35 | kiozen | best to do, he should know |
| 16:12.37 | kiozen | goxboxlive: are there any good sources of raster maps (bitmaps) in Norway? |
| 16:16.44 | goxboxlive | kiozen: way over my knowledge. I have no idea |
| 16:18.29 | kiozen | ok |
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| 16:29.03 | paulproteus | par, Universal |
| 16:31.07 | goxboxlive | hi paulproteus |
| 16:32.21 | paulproteus | Morning! |
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| 16:58.10 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 17:06.04 | paulproteus | Howdy Kevin2. |
| 17:12.05 | Kevin2 | What's new? |
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| 18:14.35 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Hi, mind a little chat about mmu tracing in Haret while in irq handler ? |
| 18:16.10 | Kevin2 | diogene31: What's up? |
| 18:17.41 | diogene31 | Remember me saying I couldn't trace what was happening in my FFUART ? |
| 18:18.05 | diogene31 | Kevin2, That I couldn't trace UART access ... |
| 18:18.11 | Kevin2 | Yes. Any luck finding out why? BTW, can you trace anything? |
| 18:18.22 | Kevin2 | Any chance wince is using DMA for the UARTs? |
| 18:18.28 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Yes, I can trace GPIOs all right. |
| 18:18.40 | diogene31 | Kevin2: And no, no DMA is used. |
| 18:19.08 | diogene31 | Kevin2: What I see is the UART queue growing up (tracing it in every IRQ) |
| 18:19.35 | diogene31 | Then, at 31 bytes, the IRQ is raised, and the queue emptied. |
| 18:20.12 | diogene31 | Kevin2: BTW, when I said GPIO tracing, it was by mmutrace at address 0xa7300000 of course |
| 18:20.18 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Are you using haretconsole? |
| 18:20.39 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Yes, of course. |
| 18:21.16 | Kevin2 | Can you send the full haretlog-2007xxxx-yyyyyy.log file from one of the attempts? Something very odd is going on. |
| 18:21.35 | diogene31 | Kevin2: So I was wondering if aborts were generated while in IRQ handling. |
| 18:21.52 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Yep, I going to make a sample and pastebin. Hold on. |
| 18:22.30 | Kevin2 | diogene31: I don't see how they could not be. The MMU table was altered - I don't see how the code could get at the uarts without going through the mmu. |
| 18:22.49 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Please send the full file if you can. |
| 18:25.47 | diogene31 | Kevin2: http://www.pastebin.ca/830013 |
| 18:27.05 | diogene31 | Kevin2: And if there was a "VirtualCopy" or something creating a new entry in the MMU ? |
| 18:28.25 | diogene31 | Kevin2: All "rjk" in the log are personnal addons when I was trying to understand what was going on. |
| 18:30.06 | Kevin2 | If the uart code calls VirtualCopy then haret wont see the accesses. However, it would need to call virtualcopy and remove it repeatedly, or the "dump mmu" would have shown the mapping. |
| 18:31.18 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Agreed. Too complicated an explanation that would be. |
| 18:32.30 | Kevin2 | You tried with a size of 1024*1024? |
| 18:34.18 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Yes, no luck either way. |
| 18:35.27 | diogene31 | Kevin2: I'm thinking, if wince activated the DMA just for reading the UART, and the deactivates it just after ... |
| 18:35.37 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Remind me - what does "dump mmutrace 2 0x40100000 1024*1024" show? |
| 18:35.54 | diogene31 | Kevin2: I will mmutrace the DMA control registers. |
| 18:36.14 | Kevin2 | diogene31: That would be my next suggestion - addlist mmutrace 0x40000000 1024*1024 |
| 18:36.36 | Kevin2 | s/0x40000000/p2v(0x40000000)/ |
| 18:37.23 | diogene31 | 86600000 | 40100000 | 1MB section | D=0 CB AP=1 |
| 18:37.32 | diogene31 | a6600000 | 40100000 | 1MB section | D=0 AP=1 |
| 18:41.27 | diogene31 | Kevin2: mmutrace on DMA gives nothing ... |
| 18:42.50 | Kevin2 | Did you run: dump mmutrace 2 0x40000000 1024*1024 ? |
| 18:48.08 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Just did, and the result is a bit surprising. Have a look ... |
| 18:48.10 | diogene31 | 96d00000 | 00100000 | 1MB section | D=0 CB AP=1 |
| 18:48.10 | diogene31 | b6d00000 | 00100000 | 1MB section | D=0 AP=1 |
| 18:48.41 | diogene31 | Kevin2: The surprise is p2v(0x40000000) gives 0xa6500000 |
| 18:49.58 | Kevin2 | Typo some where? b6d00000 maps to 0x00100000 |
| 18:51.24 | diogene31 | Kevin2: No, no typo this time. I don't understand. I'll pastebin my log, which a complete dump mmu. |
| 18:53.44 | cr2 | kiozen: still here ? |
| 18:53.47 | cr2 | hi all |
| 18:53.57 | kiozen | cr2: yes |
| 18:55.10 | cr2 | kiozen: i have some problems with transparency in GT |
| 18:55.29 | kiozen | ? |
| 18:55.39 | cr2 | it seems that it is filled with some random greyscale level |
| 18:55.52 | kiozen | let me see... |
| 18:56.04 | diogene31 | Kevin2: http://www.pastebin.ca/830045 |
| 18:58.55 | Kevin2 | diogene31: It's: dump mmu 2 0x40000000 1024*1024 |
| 18:59.53 | Kevin2 | The 2 tells "dump mmu" to show both l1 and l2 mappings. The 0x40000000 is the physical address to show, and the 1024*1024 is the range to check for. |
| 19:00.35 | kiozen | cr2: in CMapFile.cpp line 72 ff I copy the GDAL colortable into a Qt colortable. Try to clamp e.c4 to 255. |
| 19:01.28 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Also, something is odd with that pastebin - it goes from HaRET(5)# to HaRET(13)# without showing the intermediate commands. |
| 19:01.30 | kiozen | what version of GDAL are you using? |
| 19:02.06 | diogene31 | Kevin2: The limit in pastebin is 150Kb. I had to cut through. |
| 19:03.01 | diogene31 | 86500000 | 40000000 | 1MB section | D=0 CB AP=1 |
| 19:03.02 | diogene31 | a6500000 | 40000000 | 1MB section | D=0 AP=1 |
| 19:03.31 | diogene31 | Kevin2: That's the result for 86500000 | 40000000 | 1MB section | D=0 CB AP=1 |
| 19:03.32 | diogene31 | a6500000 | 40000000 | 1MB section | D=0 AP=1 |
| 19:03.40 | cr2 | kiozen: 1.4.2 |
| 19:04.00 | diogene31 | Sorry for that. My mouse is taking initiatives. |
| 19:04.06 | cr2 | kiozen: i can't compile M on the desktop. it wants some qtopia headers |
| 19:04.09 | kiozen | cr2: me too |
| 19:04.29 | cr2 | kiozen: i had some map sheets in GK |
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| 19:04.48 | cr2 | i have rotated them with gdalwarp to mercator |
| 19:05.05 | kiozen | cr2: did you read the latest installation guide on the webpage :) lol |
| 19:05.15 | cr2 | so the triangular edges are filled with 'something' |
| 19:05.21 | cr2 | i never read docs :) |
| 19:05.43 | cr2 | but qgis does not have problems with 'something', it's a GT problem |
| 19:05.43 | kiozen | cr2: then do a qmake "CONFIG+=pc" |
| 19:05.52 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:06.08 | Kevin2 | diogene31: What does dump cp(15) show? |
| 19:06.26 | kiozen | cr2: can you send me the map, or is it too big |
| 19:07.09 | cr2 | kiozen: qmake ? i thought GT uses cmake. |
| 19:07.17 | cr2 | i'll look how big are they. |
| 19:07.47 | kiozen | cr2: thought you can't compile the M version |
| 19:08.00 | cr2 | 2.2 and 6.6 MB, but i'll try to bzip2 them. |
| 19:08.19 | kiozen | does the smaller one show the same problem? |
| 19:08.48 | kiozen | GT uses camke, M uses qmake (no cmake for qtopia) |
| 19:08.57 | diogene31 | Kevin2: http://www.pastebin.ca/830058 |
| 19:09.16 | cr2 | kiozen: i have |
| 19:09.20 | cr2 | [main] |
| 19:09.21 | cr2 | levels=1 |
| 19:09.21 | cr2 | [level1] |
| 19:09.21 | cr2 | files=026.tif|027.tif |
| 19:09.21 | cr2 | zoomLevelMin=1 |
| 19:09.22 | cr2 | zoomLevelMax=20 |
| 19:10.03 | kiozen | ok |
| 19:10.32 | cr2 | 1 map has just black triangular stripes |
| 19:10.33 | Kevin2 | diogene31: I don't seem to have your haretlog.txt created when using earlyharetlog.txt . Can you run the steps described under "Early logging" at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 19:10.52 | Kevin2 | And then pastebin or mail the resulting haretlog.txt file. |
| 19:11.05 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll post the screengrab of the overlay |
| 19:11.15 | kiozen | ok |
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| 19:16.18 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Can you run: clear mmutrace ; set trace p2v(0x40100000) ; set tracemask 0xfffff ; wi 20 |
| 19:16.35 | diogene31 | Kevin2: On my way. |
| 19:16.56 | cr2 | kiozen: http://jornada820.sf.net/pics/GTover.png |
| 19:18.20 | kiozen | cr2: funny, I need the files |
| 19:18.48 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, i'll put themto http |
| 19:18.57 | kiozen | ack |
| 19:24.05 | cr2 | kiozen: TRANSP_OVL.tar at the same location |
| 19:24.37 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Your command gave back no trace. However, if I try instead "addlist traces p2v(0x40100000)", I see traces (in fact, only bytes 0x00 and 0xf9) |
| 19:29.04 | Kevin2 | diogene31: "set trace 0xvaddr" is used to enable the pxa trace functions. |
| 19:29.18 | Kevin2 | It is much different than what addlist traces does. |
| 19:31.43 | kiozen | cr2: not working, bad url |
| 19:32.53 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Can you run "pd 0x40000000 0x400" |
| 19:34.52 | cr2 | kiozen: e-mail sent |
| 19:36.19 | kiozen | cr2: received |
| 19:36.28 | diogene31 | Kevin2: http://www.pastebin.ca/830095 |
| 19:37.06 | diogene31 | Kevin2: I'll retry the trace with pxa trace functions enabled. |
| 19:38.29 | cr2 | kiozen: otherwise the program is excellent. i was surprised how fast it is. |
| 19:39.24 | kiozen | cr2: say thank you to Qt and GDAL ;) |
| 19:41.36 | cr2 | :) |
| 19:42.15 | kiozen | cr2: can't find a transparent color with gdalinfo. all alpha channels set to 255 |
| 19:43.44 | kiozen | cr2: "NoData Value=255" that's it, I have to find it in GDAL's API doc |
| 19:43.59 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:44.34 | cr2 | qgis does not have this problem. |
| 19:47.40 | kiozen | cr2: GT won't have it either, soon ;) |
| 19:48.51 | cr2 | nice :) |
| 19:52.17 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Well, I'm confused. I can't think of anything that would cause both "set trace" and "addlist mmutrace" to not work. The only other explanation is that some other virtual mapping is being used or dma is in use. Neither of those make any sense though. |
| 19:52.34 | Kevin2 | I have to go out. I'll be back later tonight. |
| 19:53.22 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Oh, one other thing - I checked in a change to haret so that it double checks that nothing messed with the mmutable during a trace. I don't think it will help, but you can do a "cvs up" and try with it if you want. |
| 19:56.16 | goxboxlive | cr2: i need some help |
| 19:57.00 | diogene31 | Kevin2: OK, I'll update my haret. If you're still here, I'll report in an hour or so. Thanks. |
| 19:57.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ? |
| 19:58.25 | goxboxlive | cr2: do you have a binary of roadmap fro Qtopia. I was thinking to test it on Neo |
| 19:58.34 | goxboxlive | I have no idea how to compile it my self |
| 19:59.22 | cr2 | i think BabelO has compiled it |
| 19:59.33 | kiozen | cr2: fixed, btw nice mushrooms :) |
| 20:00.55 | cr2 | kiozen: thanks. i've dowloaded these files as .ozf2 so a lot of maps will work now. |
| 20:01.19 | kiozen | cr2: cool :) |
| 20:01.36 | paulproteus | Mushrooms? |
| 20:02.24 | cr2 | paulproteus: it's not what you think :) |
| 20:02.31 | kiozen | cr2: let's see if goxboxlive gets QLandkarte compiled before Roadmap :) |
| 20:02.37 | kiozen | paulproteus: lol |
| 20:03.27 | cr2 | kiozen: can you run gpsd ? |
| 20:04.22 | kiozen | cr2: gpsd does not like my Garmin via USB |
| 20:04.30 | kiozen | thus I couldn play with it |
| 20:04.44 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 20:04.58 | cr2 | is it the garmin-serial driver problem ? |
| 20:05.23 | kiozen | no, usb does not talke NMEA, just Garmin proprietary |
| 20:05.50 | kiozen | and I do not want to waste time programming a driver for gpsd |
| 20:06.24 | cr2 | ? |
| 20:06.46 | cr2 | i thought gpsd knows about garmin proprietary. |
| 20:07.02 | cr2 | that's the purpose of gpsd |
| 20:07.12 | kiozen | Nope just NMEA vie this peculiar 4 pin connector |
| 20:07.37 | paulproteus | "gpsd should be able to query any GPS that speaks either the standard textual NMEA 0183 protocol, or the binary Rockwell protocol used by EarthMate and some other GPSes, the TSIP binary protocol used by Trimble GPSes, or the binary SiRF protocol used by SiRf-II and SiRF-Star chipsets, or the Garmin binary protocol " <http://linux.die.net/man/8/gpsd> |
| 20:07.53 | cr2 | gpsd should translate garmin binary to NMEA |
| 20:08.49 | kiozen | hm, it refused to see my Garmin and the 60SCx is not listed as known and working device |
| 20:09.02 | kiozen | just very ancient devices |
| 20:09.07 | cr2 | i knew it because i was pushing the inclusion of sirf binary decoder some years ago ;) |
| 20:09.20 | cr2 | kiozen: hm. i'll try 76cx |
| 20:09.56 | cr2 | i doubt that the "core" $PGRM* commands have changed. |
| 20:10.29 | kiozen | cr2: I am sure it will work with the serial port |
| 20:10.52 | kiozen | but not with the usb port, this is proprietary only |
| 20:12.10 | cr2 | kiozen: strange.... |
| 20:12.18 | kiozen | cr2: btw the changing gap between your two maps ist normal. they should overlap by 4 pixel at least. |
| 20:13.09 | kiozen | cr2: well I can give it a second try, I just used gpsdrive to configure the deamon |
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| 20:47.02 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the roadmap.bb is available in oe. can you repoint it to xanadux.sf.net ? |
| 21:04.08 | goxboxlive | i9 bbl , have to clean the house, we are having a lot of guests tomorrow. My wife will kill me if i sit here and hack on my phones now. :-) |
| 21:05.27 | cr2 | lol |
| 21:05.36 | cr2 | good night |
| 21:05.48 | paulproteus | Talk to you later, goxboxlive (-: |
| 21:29.41 | goxboxlive | cr2: i dont think that will work. There are a lot of patches and such |
| 21:37.02 | cr2 | which patches ? |
| 21:37.04 | diogene31 | Kevin2: The mmutable is not altered. That's really weird. I'll try to dig into the irq handler, perhaps even disassemble it (or BTserial.dll which manages my FFUART). |
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| 22:39.05 | BabelO | hi |
| 22:39.26 | BabelO | whats new goxboxlive? |
| 22:39.47 | BabelO | goxboxlive_ |
| 22:39.48 | goxboxlive_ | hi BabelO |
| 22:40.04 | goxboxlive_ | nothing, only that i need binary roadmap. Do you have it? |
| 22:40.44 | BabelO | hm, i have it at home, or in image at linuxtogo |
| 22:41.08 | goxboxlive_ | ok, good |
| 22:41.43 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: is BA armv5te or armv4? |
| 22:41.54 | BabelO | goxboxlive_ do you know a good irc client for wm6 |
| 22:42.02 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: no :-) |
| 22:42.09 | BabelO | ba is v5te too |
| 22:42.10 | goxboxlive_ | I think all of them costs money |
| 22:42.34 | goxboxlive_ | ok, wll there be problem to use it on my Neo? |
| 22:42.57 | BabelO | no problem i think |
| 22:43.11 | goxboxlive_ | ok i test |
| 22:43.31 | BabelO | you need qtroamap, lib expat and share directory |
| 22:43.59 | BabelO | goxboxlive gps works on neo? |
| 22:51.52 | goxboxlive_ | damn |
| 22:51.55 | goxboxlive_ | root@fic-gta01:~$ /opt/Qtopia/bin/qtroadmap |
| 22:51.55 | goxboxlive_ | Illegal instruction |
| 22:53.40 | BabelO | ldd qtroadmap |
| 22:54.01 | BabelO | i build it with neo toolchain i t ink |
| 22:54.45 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: http://pastebin.no/2935 |
| 22:56.30 | BabelO | all seem to be ok, strace? |
| 22:57.16 | BabelO | else you have to rebuild it because qtopia library have changed too much |
| 22:58.46 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: http://pastebin.no/2936 |
| 22:58.58 | goxboxlive_ | o, i dont know how to build it |
| 23:05.21 | BabelO | once you checout roadmap |
| 23:05.36 | goxboxlive_ | yes, done |
| 23:07.09 | BabelO | add CC CXX and LD |
| 23:07.23 | BabelO | for cross compile |
| 23:07.49 | BabelO | and QTDIR to depot/qtopiacore/target |
| 23:08.07 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: http://pastebin.no/2937 |
| 23:08.10 | BabelO | also DESKTOP=QPE |
| 23:08.19 | cr2 | BabelO: set CROSS_COMPILE ? |
| 23:08.47 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: looks good |
| 23:09.15 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: make in the qt4 directory ? |
| 23:09.21 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: ,But iit doesnt end good |
| 23:09.54 | goxboxlive_ | yes, should i be somewhere else? |
| 23:10.06 | BabelO | CROSS_COMPILE don t think it work with roadmap |
| 23:10.35 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: what is the errrrrrrrror message ? |
| 23:11.00 | BabelO | ;) |
| 23:11.23 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: when i try from /src it gives me this: http://pastebin.no/2938 |
| 23:11.29 | BabelO | sorry i have not real kbd on artemis :( |
| 23:12.08 | goxboxlive_ | where should i build it from??? qt, qt4 or the src? |
| 23:14.24 | BabelO | i have to go |
| 23:14.52 | goxboxlive_ | bye BabelO and merry christmas |
| 23:14.57 | BabelO | goxboxlive qtopiacore directory is the one in depot path under target |
| 23:15.17 | BabelO | merry christmas too |
| 23:15.21 | BabelO | night |
| 23:15.44 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: i did a cmake clean, now this is happening: http://pastebin.no/2939 |
| 23:15.51 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: from src |
| 23:16.12 | cr2 | hm. you need popt |
| 23:16.44 | goxboxlive_ | as arm or on my machine? |
| 23:16.50 | cr2 | arm |
| 23:17.09 | cr2 | build the oe package, and copy |
| 23:17.37 | goxboxlive_ | copy to where? |
| 23:18.01 | cr2 | can you do 'touch rdmxchange' ? |
| 23:18.12 | cr2 | so it will not be built |
| 23:18.18 | goxboxlive_ | where ? |
| 23:18.27 | cr2 | you don't really need rdmxchange on arm |
| 23:18.30 | cr2 | src/ |
| 23:23.20 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: new bug after added libpopt http://pastebin.no/2940 |
| 23:24.57 | cr2 | something is missing in the include path |
| 23:25.26 | goxboxlive_ | ok |
| 23:25.30 | goxboxlive_ | but what |
| 23:25.56 | cr2 | where is qglobal.h ? |
| 23:26.15 | paulproteus | Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego? |
| 23:26.47 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: find /media/embedded/stuff/sources/tmp/Qtopia-ficgta01-snapshot/ -name qglobal.h |
| 23:27.47 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: http://pastebin.no/2941 |
| 23:29.16 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: is it in the include path -> /media/embedded/stuff/sources/tmp/Qtopia-ficgta01-snapshot/qtopiacore/qt/include/Qt |
| 23:29.35 | goxboxlive_ | ok, but how do i let it know that? |
| 23:30.00 | cr2 | -I/media/embedded/stuff/sources/tmp/Qtopia-ficgta01-snapshot/qtopiacore/qt/src/include/Qt |
| 23:30.36 | cr2 | strange.. |
| 23:30.53 | cr2 | does this file exist ? |
| 23:32.33 | goxboxlive_ | should i add it to my makefile? |
| 23:32.49 | cr2 | no, you have it already. |
| 23:33.11 | cr2 | can you open /media/embedded/stuff/sources/tmp/Qtopia-ficgta01-snapshot/qtopiacore/qt/include/Qt/qglobal.h in the editor ? |
| 23:33.19 | cr2 | it may be some broken link. |
| 23:35.04 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: this is the content of it: http://pastebin.no/292 |
| 23:35.07 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: this is the content of it: http://pastebin.no/2942 |
| 23:36.02 | cr2 | lol |
| 23:36.04 | cr2 | require "include/bittorrent.php"; |
| 23:36.22 | goxboxlive_ | :-) |
| 23:36.35 | goxboxlive_ | the path where correct too |
| 23:36.47 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.53 | goxboxlive_ | yes |
| 23:36.58 | cr2 | hehe. ugly. |
| 23:38.22 | cr2 | you probably need to put roadmap source tree to some certain place inside qtopia. |
| 23:39.22 | goxboxlive_ | ok |
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| 23:42.08 | cr2 | paulproteus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karateka_(computer_game) |
| 23:42.55 | paulproteus | cr2, Interesting.... |
| 23:44.04 | goxboxlive_ | :-) I remember that game, we played it on commandore with tape :-) |
| 23:44.14 | cr2 | paulproteus: in 1985, the floppy disks we disconnected from appleII's in my school, so people couldn't kill the keys used by this game :) |
| 23:44.29 | paulproteus | cr2, Hah! |
| 23:45.01 | cr2 | yeah, it was amazing :) |
| 23:46.40 | goxboxlive_ | well it's getting late. long day tomorrow. Merry christmas everyone if dont catch any of you tomorrow. |
| 23:46.51 | paulproteus | Merry Christmas Eve to you goxboxlive_. |
| 23:49.12 | cr2 | paulproteus: A hack of the Apple IIGS version of the game existed. The player simply watched the game unfold as a movie, with added, often profane, tex |
| 23:49.23 | cr2 | hehe. never heard about it :) |
