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| 00:00.29 | Pryan | somebody with a qtopia.sh for PC ? |
| 00:00.59 | BabelO | cr2: clock seem to be ok, because we read correct values , maybe pH5 found why it does not work with pasic code :( |
| 00:01.20 | BabelO | Pryan: it is the same |
| 00:02.02 | ymerejt | BabelO, the battery monitoring seems to work |
| 00:02.15 | cr2 | BabelO: i've another "questionable" clock. in the asic3_mmc |
| 00:02.17 | ymerejt | BabelO, /proc/apm value changed from 99% to 98% |
| 00:02.54 | ymerejt | BabelO, but actualy I really don't understand this very ugly rom_id |
| 00:02.54 | cr2 | BabelO: the 24MHz is hardcoded, but is it correct ? asic3 has a 24.576 clock. |
| 00:03.46 | BabelO | ymerejt: maybe htc wince driver does not take care about this id because they know there is only battery druiver on ds1wm bus |
| 00:05.04 | ymerejt | BabelO, I think so. |
| 00:05.08 | BabelO | cr2: ah ?! good idea, maybe it can explain the patch we made to clear the double irq in ds1wm.c |
| 00:06.19 | ymerejt | BabelO, and I'm not proud of my patch. I should find another way. |
| 00:06.21 | BabelO | cr2: actually i don' t understand why asic3 hang on 2.6.23 :( |
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| 00:09.34 | BabelO | cr2: can you gave me the link of initramfs you use on athena ? |
| 00:09.44 | ymerejt | It's getting late. I'm going to sleep |
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| 00:09.47 | ymerejt | Good night |
| 00:09.53 | BabelO | good night |
| 00:10.07 | Pryan | BabelO the inputs arent the same, and it says to me good night ymerejt |
| 00:10.15 | Pryan | sorry |
| 00:10.25 | Pryan | its have written |
| 00:10.46 | Pryan | BabelO the inputs arent the same |
| 00:10.57 | Pryan | good night ymerejt |
| 00:11.01 | Pryan | xD |
| 00:11.05 | BabelO | Pryan: yes you have no ts |
| 00:11.25 | Pryan | yes, and keyboard |
| 00:11.34 | BabelO | Pryan: you can only set keyboard and mice |
| 00:11.40 | Pryan | and phone |
| 00:12.11 | BabelO | Pryan: but it is just some path to correct entry, it depend of your computer |
| 00:12.35 | Pryan | yes, because this i ask if somebody got it |
| 00:12.39 | Pryan | it says me |
| 00:13.26 | Pryan | Transformed: driver not found |
| 00:15.16 | BabelO | cr2: ok i found the link ;) |
| 00:26.16 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm not using ramdisk anymore. it's the same version of Kevin2 |
| 00:26.34 | BabelO | cr2: linux/mfd/tmio_mmc.h> /* TODO: replace with asic3 */ |
| 00:26.36 | cr2 | ymerejt: btw, what will happen on the phones without w1 ? |
| 00:26.39 | BabelO | cr2: it is still here ;) |
| 00:27.27 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, it's some mess there. i don't understand why tmio is good for us. |
| 00:27.38 | BabelO | cr2: where these 24Mhz are hardcoded ? |
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| 00:28.07 | cr2 | the core is the same, but asic3 is substantially different from tmio. The same applies to atiw. |
| 00:28.25 | cr2 | BabelO: in the divisor calculation routine. |
| 00:28.41 | cr2 | it should be checked with the wince driver. |
| 00:28.50 | cr2 | atiw has 80MHz base clock. |
| 00:29.21 | cr2 | and it really runs at 20MHz SD clock. |
| 00:29.30 | cr2 | with div=4 |
| 00:29.59 | cr2 | asic3_mmc uses divisor=2 |
| 00:30.38 | cr2 | so if i get it right, it should run at 24.756/2=12.288MHz |
| 00:31.39 | cr2 | the only "real" way to check it is to measure the SD clock on a card with an oscilloscope or a counter. |
| 00:31.55 | cr2 | but it will need a card extender board ;) |
| 00:32.39 | BabelO | yes, i have the osciloscope ;) |
| 00:33.22 | cr2 | BabelO: and asic3 uses 16bit transfers, while atiw 32bit. |
| 00:33.47 | cr2 | so atiw has 4x bandwidth. |
| 00:42.27 | BabelO | cr2: still here ? |
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| 00:43.05 | BabelO | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/827795 |
| 00:45.05 | cr2 | BabelO: there must be some other device that uses ffuart |
| 00:45.14 | cr2 | hm. sorry. hwuart |
| 00:45.42 | BabelO | cr2: yes because a structure change and i set dpram to ttyS without a number and kenrel take the first one |
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| 00:46.00 | BabelO | cr2: now i ve renamed ttyS8 to gprs :) |
| 00:47.44 | cr2 | BabelO: does it work ? i have a similar dpram on athena. |
| 00:48.32 | BabelO | cr2: yes it works ;) already tested |
| 00:48.34 | cr2 | but not only for the data channel, but command and so on. much more advanced, so it#s more like a dpram-based multiport serial card. |
| 00:52.11 | BabelO | cr2: look better now ;) http://pastebin.ca/827800 |
| 00:55.26 | cr2 | mymtd=00000000 ? |
| 00:55.37 | BabelO | strata |
| 00:55.59 | cr2 | that looks good -> |
| 00:56.01 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.08 | cr2 | much better than before. |
| 00:56.22 | cr2 | pxa2xx-ir-serial: Initialized ? |
| 00:56.35 | cr2 | we don't have a mux driver afair ? |
| 00:57.11 | BabelO | no mux :(, next step is to add ir / serial switch over sysfs |
| 00:57.21 | cr2 | ok |
| 00:57.34 | cr2 | DPM: pda_udc: Turning off por |
| 00:57.40 | cr2 | is it power manager ? |
| 00:58.10 | BabelO | don't know |
| 00:58.11 | cr2 | No soundcards found. ? |
| 00:58.19 | BabelO | look like the usb gadget pxa udc ? |
| 00:58.34 | cr2 | don't know. |
| 00:59.00 | cr2 | can you unset the LCD gpios in asic3 .init ? |
| 00:59.06 | cr2 | btw, how do you boot ? |
| 00:59.17 | cr2 | with default.txt ? |
| 01:00.11 | BabelO | cr2: i boot with initramfs now ;) |
| 01:00.55 | BabelO | cr2: ok i can unset, before mmc test ;) |
| 01:01.23 | cr2 | i think we should extend the 'boot protocol' |
| 01:01.55 | cr2 | i.e. haret should powerdown wifi/bt/phone/etc. |
| 01:02.00 | BabelO | hmmm asic3_mmc hang the device quickly now :( |
| 01:02.01 | cr2 | backlight |
| 01:02.15 | cr2 | and LCD, if you are not using the vsfb. |
| 01:02.33 | BabelO | cr2: yes agrre and need also to double check asic3 init status for pcmcia and other stuff |
| 01:02.57 | cr2 | the LCD powerdown command is included in haret. BKL/wifi/IR/bt need to be copied from gnu-haret |
| 01:02.58 | cr2 | yes. |
| 01:03.19 | cr2 | even on the universal there are 1-2 strange gpios. |
| 01:05.22 | BabelO | kompare drivers/mmc/asic3_mmc.c /local/devel/handhelds/linux-hh/kernel26/drivers/mmc/asic3_mmc.c |
| 01:05.53 | BabelO | oups :) |
| 01:07.35 | BabelO | cr2: big difference between sd.h and protocol.h |
| 01:11.55 | cr2 | BabelO: why does it work on universal ? |
| 01:12.15 | BabelO | don't understand universal use asic3_mmc too :( |
| 01:12.37 | cr2 | yes. |
| 01:12.51 | cr2 | i've not tried it, but goxboxlive says it works. |
| 01:13.23 | BabelO | how can i get a log of what hand ? because it display kernel only on device screen |
| 01:26.42 | cr2 | do you have a serial cable ? |
| 01:26.55 | BabelO | cr2: no :( |
| 01:27.00 | BabelO | just usb |
| 01:27.54 | BabelO | cr2: is it normal on ba ? /sys/devices/platform/pxa2xx-mci |
| 01:30.35 | dcordes | 你好同志 |
| 01:31.56 | BabelO | ~x jp en 你好同志 |
| 01:33.41 | dcordes | try cn |
| 01:34.00 | dcordes | ~x cn en 你好同志 |
| 01:34.04 | dcordes | hm ^^ |
| 01:34.19 | BabelO | ~x cn en 你好同志 |
| 01:34.30 | BabelO | ok :( |
| 01:34.39 | dcordes | hello comrades ^^ |
| 01:34.39 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.47 | dcordes | good night |
| 01:35.54 | dcordes | cr2: still there? |
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| 01:42.56 | dcordes | cr2, can we do somethign about topoly? |
| 01:43.14 | dcordes | s/somethign/something |
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| 03:32.39 | paulproteus | Er, my Uni just rebooted. |
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| 04:04.56 | Pryan | i must to reinstall my comp |
| 04:05.01 | Pryan | hehhe |
| 04:09.30 | eway | heh |
| 04:10.10 | eway | so i guess you`ll be back next year once u finish recompiling your base enviroment |
| 04:18.36 | Pryan | hahhah |
| 04:18.38 | Pryan | naa |
| 04:18.52 | Pryan | its for holydays |
| 04:19.05 | Pryan | i go to alicante |
| 04:20.44 | Pryan | and probably with this rein.stall the emulators will work |
| 04:30.56 | Pryan | i will work all night |
| 04:31.36 | Pryan | there is no time to loose |
| 04:33.17 | Pryan | what its the better filesystem to use on a desktop?. |
| 04:34.20 | eway | xfs reiserfs ext3 jfs |
| 04:34.31 | eway | more down to the individualal |
| 04:34.38 | Pryan | but between them |
| 04:34.46 | eway | i use reiser and xfs myself |
| 04:34.46 | Pryan | what is the best |
| 04:35.12 | Pryan | i will try to use reiser4 |
| 04:35.12 | eway | i`d have to say i prefer xfs |
| 04:35.32 | eway | but i do have lots of sgi hardware |
| 04:35.39 | Pryan | xfs ? its for big files not ? |
| 04:36.10 | eway | well the smallest hdd i have with xfs is a 1.2 gb drive |
| 04:37.05 | eway | got rid of anything smaller than that ages ago |
| 04:37.27 | Pryan | aham |
| 04:43.05 | paulproteus | I'd say ext3. |
| 04:43.17 | paulproteus | I've had data loss with both reiserfs and xfs. |
| 04:43.27 | paulproteus | And the fsck tools are not as mature, I found. |
| 04:43.33 | Pryan | ext4? |
| 04:43.45 | paulproteus | I don't think it's stable yet. |
| 04:43.51 | paulproteus | Like I think the on-disk format is subject to change. |
| 04:44.40 | Pryan | bah. in this distribution i have they get it as defaut |
| 04:44.49 | paulproteus | Boy oh boy. |
| 04:44.52 | Pryan | default* |
| 04:45.11 | Pryan | i bspeak of knoppix |
| 04:45.39 | eway | xfs is ok |
| 04:46.19 | eway | i`ve never had any data loss on any of my xfs systems |
| 04:46.33 | eway | but i`ve been using xfs for a long time |
| 04:47.02 | eway | even before xfs made it into the linux kernel |
| 04:47.21 | eway | and before it was avaailable as patches |
| 04:47.28 | paulproteus | Yay SGI. |
| 04:47.37 | paulproteus | It looks like the ext4 on-disk format is stable, I take that back. |
| 04:47.54 | eway | the oldest i have here atm is a r4k indigo |
| 04:48.08 | Pryan | ahama |
| 04:48.11 | eway | but the psu is on its way out |
| 04:48.17 | Pryan | maybe ext4 |
| 04:48.24 | Pryan | to test |
| 04:48.52 | Pryan | i am using reiser for a loT of years |
| 04:58.57 | Pryan | maybe i must go bed |
| 04:59.18 | Pryan | if i cannot sleep i come |
| 05:07.51 | Pryan | well, not |
| 05:07.54 | Pryan | xd |
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| 05:11.22 | knoppix | hi from here |
| 05:19.55 | Pryan | ill go bed |
| 05:20.00 | Pryan | see ya |
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| 06:40.36 | goxboxlive | good morning |
| 06:40.56 | paulproteus | Morning. (-: |
| 07:02.16 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 07:41.09 | eway | morning |
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| 08:13.56 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: there? |
| 08:14.00 | paulproteus | Yes. |
| 08:14.06 | paulproteus | I don't know why I'm still awake, but here I am. |
| 08:14.10 | paulproteus | What's up? (-: |
| 08:14.11 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 08:14.27 | goxboxlive | is shouldnt the right way to write in english? |
| 08:14.34 | goxboxlive | "shouldnt" |
| 08:14.37 | paulproteus | "shouldn't" |
| 08:14.44 | goxboxlive | ok thx |
| 08:14.46 | paulproteus | You shouldn't click the Cancel button during a reformat. |
| 08:14.49 | paulproteus | (for example) |
| 08:15.10 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 08:15.11 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 08:15.13 | goxboxlive | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/O.P.I.E-II/Qtopia-Linux.cab |
| 08:15.50 | goxboxlive | I made a new one now that the acx modules are ok. They will be loaded at boot, but doesnt drain power |
| 08:15.53 | paulproteus | I wonder why my Qtopia doesn't load.... |
| 08:15.58 | paulproteus | Oh, that's good! |
| 08:16.11 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: yes that is strange. Mine is working very good now |
| 08:16.20 | paulproteus | Lucky (-; |
| 08:16.46 | paulproteus | I tried with a full battery and get the same problem. |
| 08:17.24 | paulproteus | I wonder if AT chatting with the modem in Linux works. |
| 08:17.35 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: Is the wm6 version you are using new? |
| 08:17.47 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: upi could test with cu |
| 08:17.56 | goxboxlive | s/upi/you/ |
| 08:18.41 | paulproteus | I don't know how new it is. |
| 08:18.49 | paulproteus | I can try cu right now I guess. |
| 08:19.32 | paulproteus | I don't even know how I would find out how new it is. What exact version does Settings->About say for you? |
| 08:19.45 | paulproteus | CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0) is what mine says. (it's also in the log at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/20071221.html.gz ) |
| 08:20.17 | paulproteus | I guess I need to build an ipkg for cu. |
| 08:20.30 | paulproteus | I can do that, I'm pretty sure. |
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| 08:21.00 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: yes build 'uucp' |
| 08:22.15 | paulproteus | Do you know what I should actually send to the modem other than "ATDT <phone number>"? |
| 08:24.13 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: yes |
| 08:24.26 | goxboxlive | instalkl it and i guide you |
| 08:25.21 | paulproteus | BTW once the bitbake finishes, do you know where the ipkg files end up? |
| 08:26.25 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: create a ftp server on your machine |
| 08:26.33 | goxboxlive | and use it as a repo |
| 08:26.40 | paulproteus | I can scp the ipk files across... |
| 08:26.48 | paulproteus | ...if only I can find them. (-: |
| 08:26.53 | paulproteus | That sounds easier than a repo. |
| 08:26.57 | paulproteus | Oh, sweet, found them! |
| 08:26.59 | goxboxlive | to index the database do: bitbake package-index -crebuild |
| 08:27.20 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: not if you need other files to that it depends on |
| 08:28.59 | paulproteus | uucp is installed. |
| 08:29.09 | goxboxlive | good |
| 08:29.14 | goxboxlive | over ssh |
| 08:29.22 | paulproteus | I can't find 'cu', though.... |
| 08:29.32 | goxboxlive | install cu also then |
| 08:29.44 | paulproteus | Hah, I have an old cupbinary actually. (-: |
| 08:29.55 | paulproteus | Got one running. |
| 08:30.19 | paulproteus | root@htcuniversal:/$ ./old/qtopia/usr/bin/cu /dev/ttyS0 |
| 08:30.19 | paulproteus | ./old/qtopia/usr/bin/cu: /dev/ttyS0: System not found |
| 08:30.43 | paulproteus | root@htcuniversal:/$ dmesg | grep pxa2xx |
| 08:30.44 | paulproteus | [ 0.490000] pxa2xx-uart.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x40100000 (irq = 22) is a FFUART |
| 08:30.44 | paulproteus | [ 0.500000] pxa2xx-uart.1: ttyS1 at MMIO 0x40200000 (irq = 21) is a BTUART |
| 08:30.44 | paulproteus | [ 0.510000] pxa2xx-uart.2: ttyS2 at MMIO 0x40700000 (irq = 20) is a STUART |
| 08:30.50 | paulproteus | Those seem the only relevant ttywhatever lines in dmesg. |
| 08:31.07 | goxboxlive | have you installed cu? |
| 08:31.21 | paulproteus | I'm using a cu binary on the phone that I had lying around from an old image. |
| 08:31.41 | paulproteus | That's why it's in /old/. |
| 08:31.47 | paulproteus | But it runs, so we can proceed with it. |
| 08:31.50 | goxboxlive | install a new one |
| 08:31.54 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 08:32.21 | goxboxlive | do 'chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttyS0' |
| 08:32.28 | goxboxlive | cu -l /dev/ttyS0 |
| 08:32.35 | goxboxlive | atv1 |
| 08:32.37 | goxboxlive | ate1 |
| 08:32.49 | paulproteus | root@htcuniversal:/$ chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttyS0 |
| 08:32.49 | paulproteus | root@htcuniversal:/$ ./old/qtopia/usr/bin/cu /dev/ttyS0 |
| 08:32.49 | paulproteus | ./old/qtopia/usr/bin/cu: /dev/ttyS0: System not found |
| 08:32.53 | paulproteus | er, I'll do cu -l |
| 08:33.02 | paulproteus | ok! |
| 08:33.20 | paulproteus | root@htcuniversal:/$ ./old/qtopia/usr/bin/cu -l /dev/ttyS0 |
| 08:33.20 | paulproteus | Connected. |
| 08:33.20 | paulproteus | 4 |
| 08:33.34 | goxboxlive | ok follow this now |
| 08:33.37 | paulproteus | I entered "atv1<enter>" and "ate1<enter>" |
| 08:33.39 | goxboxlive | atv1e1 |
| 08:33.42 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 08:33.57 | paulproteus | done |
| 08:34.00 | goxboxlive | at+cfun=1 |
| 08:34.02 | paulproteus | There's no echo, btw. |
| 08:34.05 | goxboxlive | ate1 |
| 08:34.20 | paulproteus | done |
| 08:34.27 | goxboxlive | at+cpin="your pin" |
| 08:34.34 | paulproteus | There is no PIN on the SIM. |
| 08:34.44 | goxboxlive | ok, the forget that one |
| 08:34.46 | goxboxlive | at+cops=0 |
| 08:35.03 | paulproteus | done (I'm doing this in lowercase btw) |
| 08:35.32 | goxboxlive | np |
| 08:35.43 | goxboxlive | at+cops? |
| 08:35.49 | goxboxlive | whats the output? |
| 08:35.57 | paulproteus | No output, and I got no echo. |
| 08:36.10 | paulproteus | All I see is this "Connected. <newline>4" |
| 08:36.12 | goxboxlive | ate1 doenst give you echo? |
| 08:36.38 | paulproteus | No echo. |
| 08:36.42 | paulproteus | BTW I got this on the console: |
| 08:36.44 | paulproteus | [ 836.460000] htcuniversal configure phone: 0 |
| 08:36.44 | paulproteus | [ 836.470000] htcuniversal configure phone: 1 |
| 08:36.44 | paulproteus | [ 836.480000] phone_reset called |
| 08:36.44 | paulproteus | [ 836.700000] phone_reset called |
| 08:36.44 | paulproteus | [ 836.940000] UMTS_DCD tries=0 of 200 |
| 08:36.45 | paulproteus | [ 840.850000] BB_READY tries=129 of 200 |
| 08:36.47 | paulproteus | [ 840.850000] Will request IRQ=179 |
| 08:36.49 | paulproteus | [ 840.860000] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2 |
| 08:36.58 | goxboxlive | yes that tells that the phone is ok |
| 08:37.01 | paulproteus | USB ethernet still works, I'm in a separate SSH session running dmesg. |
| 08:37.13 | goxboxlive | do it verbose? |
| 08:37.21 | paulproteus | Huh? |
| 08:37.28 | goxboxlive | do you see your input? |
| 08:37.37 | paulproteus | No, still just "Connected.<newline>4" |
| 08:37.47 | goxboxlive | test just "at" |
| 08:37.50 | paulproteus | Should I kill cu and try again with some other options? |
| 08:37.54 | goxboxlive | no |
| 08:38.08 | paulproteus | I pressed enter twice and typed "at" then enter; nothing... |
| 08:38.22 | goxboxlive | hmm |
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| 08:38.37 | paulproteus | BTW do you know what this "4" is about? |
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| 08:38.51 | goxboxlive | yes 4 = ERROR |
| 08:38.59 | paulproteus | Hah, ouch. |
| 08:39.00 | goxboxlive | 0 = OK |
| 08:39.26 | goxboxlive | test with a new cu application |
| 08:39.29 | paulproteus | Okay. |
| 08:39.31 | goxboxlive | install a new one |
| 08:39.32 | paulproteus | I will build a fresh cu. |
| 08:39.37 | paulproteus | Kill this one then? |
| 08:40.01 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 08:40.05 | goxboxlive | good |
| 08:40.54 | paulproteus | BTW is there a wiki page somewhere or something where I can read some more about this? |
| 08:41.11 | goxboxlive | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelGSM |
| 08:41.18 | goxboxlive | this is all, not much |
| 08:41.29 | paulproteus | ERROR: No providers of build target cu (for []) |
| 08:41.38 | goxboxlive | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM |
| 08:41.54 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: but you build uucp so cu should allread exist |
| 08:42.05 | goxboxlive | get the cu*.ipk and install it |
| 08:42.34 | paulproteus | Ah yes. |
| 08:42.35 | paulproteus | Thanks. (-: |
| 08:43.25 | paulproteus | Okay, fresh cu |
| 08:43.29 | goxboxlive | good |
| 08:43.39 | goxboxlive | the chown for ttyS0 |
| 08:43.46 | goxboxlive | then just do as i do, ok? |
| 08:43.51 | paulproteus | BTW I'm root; the chown should be meaningless (-: |
| 08:43.56 | goxboxlive | no |
| 08:44.01 | paulproteus | Er, if you say so. |
| 08:44.03 | goxboxlive | root failes |
| 08:44.14 | goxboxlive | chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttyS0 |
| 08:44.17 | paulproteus | done |
| 08:44.22 | goxboxlive | cu -l /dev/ttyS0 |
| 08:44.26 | paulproteus | Connected. |
| 08:44.29 | goxboxlive | at |
| 08:44.40 | goxboxlive | ate1 |
| 08:44.40 | paulproteus | done |
| 08:44.43 | goxboxlive | atv1 |
| 08:44.51 | goxboxlive | at+cfun=1 |
| 08:45.01 | goxboxlive | at+cops=0 |
| 08:45.02 | paulproteus | (done, but no echo still) |
| 08:45.33 | goxboxlive | atq1 |
| 08:45.48 | paulproteus | done |
| 08:45.54 | goxboxlive | at |
| 08:46.14 | goxboxlive | whats the output now? |
| 08:46.23 | goxboxlive | do you have any echo? |
| 08:46.26 | paulproteus | Still empty. |
| 08:46.30 | goxboxlive | please pastbin |
| 08:46.34 | paulproteus | root@htcuniversal:~$ cu -l /dev/ttyS0 |
| 08:46.34 | paulproteus | Connected. |
| 08:46.35 | paulproteus | That's it. |
| 08:46.53 | goxboxlive | ohh |
| 08:47.07 | goxboxlive | and dmesg |
| 08:47.24 | goxboxlive | same as before? |
| 08:47.34 | paulproteus | [ 1260.270000] htcuniversal configure phone: 2 |
| 08:47.34 | paulproteus | [ 1260.280000] tried to call phone_off, stack will follow: |
| 08:47.34 | paulproteus | [ 1260.280000] htcuniversal configure phone: 3 |
| 08:47.34 | paulproteus | [ 1519.850000] htcuniversal configure phone: 0 |
| 08:47.34 | paulproteus | [ 1519.850000] htcuniversal configure phone: 1 |
| 08:47.36 | paulproteus | Just those more. |
| 08:47.50 | goxboxlive | this ones shut down the modem: <paulproteus> [ 1260.270000] htcuniversal configure phone: 2 |
| 08:47.51 | goxboxlive | <paulproteus> [ 1260.280000] tried to call phone_off, stack will follow: |
| 08:47.51 | goxboxlive | <paulproteus> [ 1260.280000] htcuniversal configure phone: 3 |
| 08:47.57 | goxboxlive | and 0 and 1 brings it up |
| 08:48.12 | paulproteus | 2 and 3 were probably from me killing the earlier cu. |
| 08:48.18 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 08:48.41 | goxboxlive | well, seems like you have to install an older wince image. It have to be that |
| 08:48.49 | goxboxlive | mine is old |
| 08:48.51 | paulproteus | Interesting, I can try that. |
| 08:48.56 | goxboxlive | from the spring i think |
| 08:49.12 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: to be sure install a wm5 image |
| 09:25.37 | ymerejt | good morning |
| 09:25.53 | goxboxlive | hi ymerejt |
| 09:29.08 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I have solved my battery problem. The problem was the battery |
| 09:30.06 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: really |
| 09:30.14 | goxboxlive | so now you have it working |
| 09:30.21 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, YES ! |
| 09:30.23 | ymerejt | ;) |
| 09:30.42 | goxboxlive | great |
| 09:30.59 | goxboxlive | I have started to use it as my main phone now :-) |
| 09:31.13 | ymerejt | goxboxlive,Now, I have to prepare myself to go to my parent house for 5 days |
| 09:31.32 | goxboxlive | I have had acx/htcuniversal_acx loaded since yesterday now, and the battery indicator hasent moved |
| 09:31.36 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I use it as my main phone for already two days !;) |
| 09:31.46 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: :-) |
| 09:31.50 | goxboxlive | cool |
| 09:32.48 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, I'm not sure to be able to work on my phone during its 5 days. But I will try to work on some know bugs ... ;) |
| 09:33.06 | goxboxlive | good |
| 09:33.16 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, if something happens during this time, please send me a summary mail |
| 09:33.25 | goxboxlive | I will start to look at the devtools. So we can have BT and wifi controled with it |
| 09:33.35 | goxboxlive | i will :-) |
| 09:33.41 | ymerejt | thx |
| 09:34.56 | ymerejt | have a nice day and MERRY CHRISTMAS ! |
| 09:35.55 | goxboxlive | u 2 |
| 09:50.28 | paulproteus | (Bye ymerejt!) |
| 09:50.36 | paulproteus | My update is still installing. |
| 09:50.46 | paulproteus | It's 4:50 am here. |
| 09:55.32 | eway | goxboxlive is there a image of the current qtopia your using on the universal that i can try ? |
| 09:56.49 | eway | i still dont yet have a box setup with a build enviroment lack of local disk space and time |
| 09:57.29 | Pryan | goxboxlive, my desktop installation has crached |
| 09:57.40 | Pryan | hi all |
| 09:58.12 | Pryan | im backing up the data to start reinstalling gentoo |
| 10:05.38 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Same "No network" problem with WM 5. |
| 10:07.48 | paulproteus | I'll try with cu. |
| 10:10.57 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Hey! |
| 10:11.05 | paulproteus | All it took was me quitting and reopening Qtopia! |
| 10:11.46 | paulproteus | I think I may be connected. |
| 10:13.37 | paulproteus | Yes, I can receive a call! |
| 10:19.55 | paulproteus | BTW, goxboxlive, I don't think it's going to sleep automatically. |
| 10:20.29 | paulproteus | I guess I'll leave it overnight and we'll see. (-: |
| 10:23.16 | Pryan | goxboxlive, please make me a list of programs that you want to have in your pda phone, it's for not emerging them |
| 10:23.30 | Pryan | and everybody can contribute |
| 10:24.27 | paulproteus | Pryan, Why spend your time building a new system of packages when there is already one that works well? |
| 10:24.40 | Pryan | because i like gentoo |
| 10:24.47 | paulproteus | And BTW you haven't even *tried* the existing system. |
| 10:24.48 | Pryan | its the best distribution |
| 10:24.50 | paulproteus | Maybe this system is better. |
| 10:24.51 | paulproteus | You'd never know? |
| 10:25.02 | Pryan | i dont like the ipkg system |
| 10:25.08 | Pryan | too few packages |
| 10:25.30 | paulproteus | I firmly believe you are wasting your time. |
| 10:25.34 | paulproteus | At least try the ipkg system out. |
| 10:26.05 | Pryan | first i want to try with this proyect |
| 10:26.15 | paulproteus | You should learn what already exists first. |
| 10:26.20 | paulproteus | Then you will know how to make your project better. |
| 10:26.26 | Pryan | and there is more people interested in this proyect |
| 10:26.27 | paulproteus | Otherwise you may repeat mistakes that have already been made in ipkg. |
| 10:26.44 | Pryan | prease instrude me |
| 10:26.58 | paulproteus | What does instrude mean? |
| 10:27.04 | Pryan | teach |
| 10:27.08 | Pryan | i dont know |
| 10:27.14 | paulproteus | Then learn what is there first. |
| 10:27.19 | paulproteus | Then you can learn how to make it better. |
| 10:27.19 | Pryan | in spanish is instruyeme |
| 10:27.26 | Pryan | ok |
| 10:27.27 | paulproteus | In English it is "instruct". (-: |
| 10:27.32 | paulproteus | Read about OpenEmbedded, get it going. |
| 10:27.33 | Pryan | ok |
| 10:27.35 | Pryan | xD |
| 10:27.51 | paulproteus | I was involved in Xbox Linux from near the start also. |
| 10:28.06 | paulproteus | We learned by trying each others' systems and learning from what each other did well. |
| 10:28.20 | Pryan | aham |
| 10:28.27 | paulproteus | In Xbox Linux, there was eventually a Gentoo system, and a Debian system, and a Fedora system, and a Slackware system. |
| 10:28.47 | paulproteus | It worked because we understood how each others' systems worked, so we could take improvements from one and apply them to the other. |
| 10:29.08 | Pryan | aham |
| 10:29.37 | paulproteus | Yes? |
| 10:30.48 | paulproteus | What worries me is that you seem uninterested to learn about OpenEmbedded, which has a lot of success on these HTC devices. You have to learn what works before you can start improving it. |
| 10:31.43 | paulproteus | I know you like Gentoo a lot, and I know you think it's the best thing. I personally don't, but that's not what's important. What's important is that you have to learn how OpenEmbedded has been set up and why it succeeds so that you can those lessons in order to make Gentoo a good fit. |
| 10:32.02 | paulproteus | That's my advice. I hope very much that you'll take it. |
| 10:32.09 | paulproteus | For now it's past 5:30 am here, so I should go to sleep. |
| 10:34.10 | paulproteus | I'll be back here in the morning, so if you have any comments or feedback on this advice do let me know. (-: |
| 10:36.47 | Pryan | ok |
| 10:36.49 | Pryan | thanks |
| 10:41.20 | goxboxlive | eway: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1755778&postcount=1799 |
| 10:52.16 | Pryan | goxboxlive, ok i will use this image too |
| 10:52.39 | Pryan | remember me when i come from holidays |
| 10:54.12 | Pryan | but qtopia is for using alone r with opie |
| 10:54.21 | Pryan | i havent understand this |
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| 11:10.37 | eway | downloading it now |
| 11:10.56 | eway | but the linuxtogo server is being slow atm |
| 11:13.01 | eway | i`m getting about 50k/sec |
| 11:20.10 | eway | isit worth mirroring the file on the htc-linux.org server ? |
| 11:36.47 | eway | 1st boot device is locked with the no network |
| 11:36.54 | Pryan | i have my own server, maybe we could mirror from there |
| 11:37.09 | Pryan | or from htc-linux.org its the same |
| 11:38.00 | eway | htc-linux.org is on my main hosting server |
| 11:46.15 | Pryan | ah ok |
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| 11:48.08 | eway | Pryan i work for a isp :) |
| 11:50.01 | Pryan | oh, fine |
| 11:51.10 | eway | ok still no network for meeven after enabling the atchat modem and mux on 1 handset with radio 1.17.00 |
| 11:51.26 | eway | about to try on my other handset with radio 1.15.00 |
| 11:52.21 | Pryan | ok |
| 11:57.34 | Pryan | hi kiozen |
| 12:03.35 | eway | and the same on my other handset aswell |
| 12:04.07 | eway | both handsets are running wm5 |
| 12:05.11 | eway | 1 handset with radio 1.17.00 the other with radio 1.15.00 both devices give the no network msg |
| 12:07.16 | Pryan | whith what device are you trying to connect |
| 12:07.20 | Pryan | gprs |
| 12:07.23 | Pryan | wifi |
| 12:07.59 | eway | both devices are universals |
| 12:08.40 | Pryan | what type of connection |
| 12:08.53 | eway | and its the gsm modem no network |
| 12:08.59 | Pryan | hmm |
| 12:09.38 | Pryan | with wm5 |
| 12:09.54 | Pryan | maybe a problem of your services provider |
| 12:10.01 | eway | yep both devices running wm5 |
| 12:10.19 | Pryan | call'em |
| 12:10.31 | eway | yeh right tmobile uk |
| 12:11.00 | eway | both devices work fine Pryan and its not a network issue as such |
| 12:11.10 | Pryan | hmm, strange |
| 12:11.25 | eway | nope |
| 12:11.31 | eway | not strange |
| 12:11.39 | eway | its called development |
| 12:11.48 | Pryan | well |
| 12:11.57 | Pryan | maybe its a failure of software |
| 12:12.21 | Pryan | have you updated something |
| 12:13.07 | eway | goxboxlive only put the link up to the new image this morning |
| 12:13.23 | Pryan | ahm, then its development |
| 12:13.25 | Pryan | xD |
| 12:13.45 | Pryan | i thing you have done nothing |
| 12:13.55 | Pryan | maybe a problem of provider |
| 12:13.59 | Pryan | but nope |
| 12:14.15 | eway | nope provider is fine |
| 12:15.59 | eway | the handset with radio 1.17.00 is the current tmobile uk image the other handset is the tmobile hr rom with the uk extrom and radio 115.00 |
| 12:16.33 | Pryan | aham, i dont know much about universal |
| 12:16.41 | Pryan | i have an athena |
| 12:17.02 | eway | i no |
| 12:17.09 | eway | i read the logs |
| 12:17.32 | eway | u have the athena and no usb cable or hub yet |
| 12:17.50 | Pryan | yep, HUB yes, because pendrive is working |
| 12:17.59 | eway | and you`ve been trying to get qemu working as a arm emulator |
| 12:18.05 | Pryan | but no usb cable to sync with linux |
| 12:18.17 | Pryan | yes, but it doesnt load my image |
| 12:18.40 | eway | see i no |
| 12:18.43 | Pryan | i have tryed with a livecd of development and a default image and it runs |
| 12:18.54 | Pryan | but with my image doesnt |
| 12:19.13 | Pryan | so i will do more development |
| 12:19.29 | Pryan | until i got a working gentoo system in arm |
| 12:19.44 | Pryan | cappable to make the stage4 |
| 12:20.05 | eway | well development is somthing you should be fairly good at seeing as your running gentoo |
| 12:20.16 | Pryan | yeah |
| 12:20.28 | Pryan | i have created a partition to boot from |
| 12:20.35 | Pryan | that i havent before |
| 12:20.44 | Pryan | so i can easy boot a kernel |
| 12:20.52 | Pryan | with qemu-system-arm |
| 12:21.15 | eway | myself i`ll stick with a base system thats nice and easy |
| 12:21.52 | Pryan | my gentoo base system will have splashscreen |
| 12:21.59 | eway | gentoo is ok if you dont mind compiling everything by hand but if your going to do that you might aswell build your own lfs |
| 12:22.28 | Pryan | i will give all the package that you would need |
| 12:22.38 | Pryan | so there is no need to emerge more |
| 12:22.49 | Pryan | only a few packages |
| 12:23.05 | eway | even so |
| 12:23.14 | goxboxlive | eway: so cant run it either. on guy reflased his uni and then i worked. ANother one replced his battery with the original then it worked |
| 12:23.43 | eway | i`m using a genuine battery |
| 12:24.01 | eway | but its the extended capacity version |
| 12:24.09 | eway | 3800mah pu16b |
| 12:25.10 | eway | will try with a pu16a battery |
| 12:25.59 | goxboxlive | good |
| 12:26.19 | eway | the pu16b is made by dynapack international |
| 12:28.29 | eway | just checked all my batteries are made by dynapack |
| 12:30.35 | eway | i woud guess that dynapack is the manufactor of the original battery |
| 12:34.31 | eway | ok booting now with a standard capicty battery |
| 12:36.34 | eway | same thing no network |
| 12:37.06 | eway | the guy who reflashed |
| 12:37.22 | eway | do you happen to know what he flashed from and to ? |
| 12:37.48 | eway | ie did he have wm6 and flash back to wm5 |
| 12:38.12 | eway | or from a new wm5 to a old wm5 etc etc |
| 12:38.32 | eway | i no that both my handsets are running wm5 aku 3.3 |
| 12:39.16 | eway | so not the newest wm5 that is out there |
| 12:39.47 | eway | also just noticed somthing |
| 12:40.13 | eway | after holding the power button and waiting for the menu and doing a restart qtopia |
| 12:41.50 | eway | with the extended battery i get a seg fault after the configure phone 3 line |
| 12:42.10 | eway | with the standard battery this seg fault doesn`t happen |
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| 12:48.54 | goxboxlive | eway: he used this one: ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.zip |
| 12:49.56 | eway | k |
| 12:51.19 | eway | i can do a spb backup my handset and go back to the old rom UNI_TMUK_130114_130232_11003_WWE_BL101_Ship.exe |
| 12:51.58 | eway | 1 handset is cid unlocked |
| 12:52.09 | eway | well cid and sim |
| 12:52.18 | eway | the other is still locked |
| 12:52.26 | goxboxlive | yes test and see if it work |
| 12:53.01 | eway | will take a lil while to do the flash |
| 12:53.18 | eway | gotta do the backup 1st |
| 12:54.06 | goxboxlive | k |
| 12:58.50 | eway | k backup running |
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| 13:19.07 | eway | flashing now |
| 13:26.54 | goxboxlive | k |
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| 13:44.52 | goxboxlive | alo BabelO |
| 13:45.01 | Pryan | hola BabelO |
| 13:45.04 | BabelO | hello goxboxlive |
| 13:45.10 | BabelO | hello Pryan |
| 13:45.23 | Pryan | wats up ? |
| 13:45.33 | Pryan | i am reinstalling my desktop pc |
| 13:45.42 | Pryan | hehehe, it crashed |
| 13:45.48 | BabelO | Pryan: yes i read on the log ;) |
| 13:46.00 | Pryan | hahaha, ok |
| 13:46.19 | BabelO | goxboxlive: maybe it is time to add bt / wifi powered on / off over sysfs |
| 13:47.20 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes that would be a good idea, How do we do that? |
| 13:48.04 | Pryan | like GPS, with daemons |
| 13:48.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i m looking for a sample we done on BA |
| 13:48.09 | Pryan | its one way |
| 13:48.30 | eway | flash complete |
| 13:48.53 | eway | its currently installing the extrom |
| 13:50.06 | goxboxlive | BabelO: is it like the Ficphone dooes it? |
| 13:50.18 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes exactly |
| 13:50.26 | goxboxlive | I think that is a good idea. |
| 13:50.43 | goxboxlive | Is it somewhere in OE we can set it up? |
| 13:52.28 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no it is in kernel drivers |
| 13:52.37 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 13:54.46 | Pryan | its some way that knoppix rescan my devices to add /dev/sda4 ? |
| 13:54.53 | Pryan | i have partitioned the hd |
| 13:54.58 | Pryan | im with livecd |
| 13:55.58 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i send you it as an email |
| 13:56.56 | BabelO | goxboxlive: on universal driver is the same |
| 13:57.23 | goxboxlive | ok thx |
| 13:57.39 | eway | ok booting qtopia now |
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| 13:59.12 | dcordes | hi all |
| 13:59.17 | Pryan | dcordes ! |
| 13:59.23 | Pryan | ke pasa chaval |
| 13:59.37 | dcordes | pryan looked into openembedded yet? |
| 13:59.50 | eway | no network |
| 14:00.08 | Pryan | why ? i dont remember |
| 14:00.26 | dcordes | nada estoy en train just read logs |
| 14:00.40 | goxboxlive | eway: held the pwr button in for a few sex |
| 14:00.43 | goxboxlive | sorry sec |
| 14:00.51 | dcordes | i mean what paulproteus told you earlier |
| 14:00.55 | goxboxlive | choose restart qtopia |
| 14:00.57 | eway | restart qtopia ? |
| 14:01.04 | BabelO | goxboxlive: lol, two time you do this mistake ;) |
| 14:01.21 | eway | intresting |
| 14:01.23 | goxboxlive | BabelO: man i really wonder whats in my thuoghts this days :-) |
| 14:01.56 | dcordes | pryan paulproteus said what im thinikng all the time. you should first start off with openembedded and maybe later go to gentoo |
| 14:02.09 | eway | as i said before about the segmentation fault after the confogure phone 3 line |
| 14:02.10 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 14:02.23 | goxboxlive | ?? |
| 14:02.26 | eway | i was only getting that on the extended batery before |
| 14:02.31 | Pryan | no, i have made a partition so i can easily boot from |
| 14:02.42 | eway | now i`m getting it on the standard battery aswell |
| 14:02.54 | eway | but still after the restart no network |
| 14:03.16 | dcordes | pryan got your kbd working yet? |
| 14:03.34 | Pryan | desktop or pda ? |
| 14:03.46 | dcordes | pda of course |
| 14:03.53 | Pryan | in linux ? |
| 14:04.03 | dcordes | yes |
| 14:04.19 | Pryan | i havent run linux yet |
| 14:04.31 | Pryan | but kevin2 doesnt finished the driver |
| 14:04.58 | dcordes | i thought you wanted to get usb keyboard |
| 14:05.17 | Pryan | yes, ill buy a ps2/usb adapter |
| 14:05.26 | Pryan | to plug in my desktop keyboard |
| 14:05.49 | dcordes | gd gd |
| 14:06.04 | dcordes | i will catch you up later |
| 14:06.22 | goxboxlive | eway: ok, i have no idea. I thin cr2 have to look furher on it |
| 14:06.33 | eway | np |
| 14:06.45 | goxboxlive | eway: do you have cu working? |
| 14:07.05 | eway | only if you have it in your image |
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| 14:14.59 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 14:28.26 | eway | anything else i can try ? |
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| 15:20.13 | cr2 | hi dcorder |
| 15:20.42 | cr2 | dcordes: i've looked at the latest android git changes |
| 15:21.30 | dcordes | cr2, hi |
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| 15:22.01 | dcordes | rpc, bootloader? |
| 15:23.14 | dcordes | adsp? |
| 15:24.36 | cr2 | rpc points to the stuff which android want to shadow out with microkernel |
| 15:25.14 | cr2 | to our advantage htc layout does not match what they do, so we can learn many interesting things by differential analysis. |
| 15:26.59 | dcordes | our strategy is to not use microkernel? |
| 15:30.50 | cr2 | well, the "purist" linux strategy is not to use the microkernel design to reduce the overhead. |
| 15:31.51 | cr2 | or even more accurate. linux is not designed as a microkernel os. |
| 15:32.28 | cr2 | but i'm more concerned about the hardware details now, not the software architecture. |
| 15:33.15 | dcordes | about kaiser's very own hardware components? |
| 15:34.11 | cr2 | yes, the msm7x00 hardware internals |
| 15:35.51 | dcordes | not peripheral but what is in the chip? |
| 15:36.18 | dcordes | I only know what is on the wiki and what harald has in his blog |
| 15:36.56 | cr2 | periferals are BT and wifi |
| 15:37.08 | cr2 | wifi is connected to a sdio channel |
| 15:37.18 | dcordes | ah right. and bt serial? |
| 15:37.27 | dcordes | everything else we have oc? |
| 15:37.39 | cr2 | BT goes over rpc, so microkernel hacking is needed. |
| 15:38.04 | cr2 | the SPL references 3 UARTs, but i don't get the context. |
| 15:38.25 | cr2 | the usb client is a puzzle. |
| 15:39.59 | dcordes | is usb also connected to the microkernel? |
| 15:40.07 | dcordes | rpc I mean |
| 15:40.55 | cr2 | in wince - yes. |
| 15:41.26 | cr2 | SPL uses a different set of registers, which does not match the android code. |
| 15:42.05 | dcordes | what is spl again? |
| 15:42.44 | cr2 | wince bootloader |
| 15:43.02 | cr2 | located in the the first MB of SRAM |
| 15:43.12 | dcordes | hm I think bluetooth is rather of minor priority, isn't it? |
| 15:43.30 | dcordes | I wonder what we can do about display |
| 15:43.42 | dcordes | you had that approach when x_bruce was here |
| 15:45.25 | cr2 | to connect without the display is very helpful |
| 15:45.45 | cr2 | to take over the non-vsfb display is really difficult. |
| 15:46.08 | dcordes | so usb would be useful right now |
| 15:46.24 | dcordes | to get some kind of access to the running system |
| 15:48.59 | cr2 | if BT was on the UART, it may be even easier. |
| 15:49.43 | cr2 | but since it uses rpc, it's not clear if (1) it uses uart, and (2) if it#s traceable with haret. |
| 15:50.02 | cr2 | we already have a similar problem with MDP. |
| 15:50.06 | dcordes | can't we try out (2) ? |
| 15:50.15 | cr2 | you can try :) |
| 15:50.18 | dcordes | how |
| 15:50.30 | cr2 | mmutrace for the uarts. |
| 15:50.33 | dcordes | ok |
| 15:52.08 | dcordes | addlist mmutrace 0xa9a00000 +0x03 |
| 15:52.32 | dcordes | set permissivemmutrace 1 |
| 15:53.12 | cr2 | ddlist mmutrace p2v(0xa9a00000) 256 |
| 15:53.38 | dcordes | what is p2v and why 256? |
| 15:53.56 | cr2 | but if it's controlled by the microkernel, then tracing will fail |
| 15:54.15 | cr2 | mmutrace traces the virtual mapping -> p2c |
| 15:54.21 | cr2 | s/pc2/p2v/ |
| 15:54.24 | cr2 | s/p2c/p2v/ |
| 15:54.58 | cr2 | 256 bytes after p2v(0xa9a00000) should cover all known registers. |
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| 15:56.53 | dcordes | cr2, In the output I only see 15 |
| 15:56.55 | dcordes | irq |
| 15:57.01 | dcordes | that's usb data riq |
| 15:59.46 | dcordes | cr2, iirc we tried that yet when I installed active sync to make sure there is valid usb traffic |
| 16:01.11 | dcordes | cr2, I have to go now. bbl |
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| 16:15.17 | Pryan2 | hi all |
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| 16:19.15 | Pryan2 | hola dcordes |
| 16:34.46 | Pryan | im here |
| 16:40.00 | par | is wifi fully working on the BlueAngel with the new kernel? |
| 16:40.57 | par | or is it now working with an older kernel even, i haven't been around here in a while ;) |
| 16:44.03 | Pryan | i dont knoe |
| 16:44.07 | Pryan | know* |
| 16:49.15 | par | cr? |
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| 16:57.14 | Pryan | hi BabelO |
| 16:57.17 | BabelO | par: yes wifi is supported in latest kernel |
| 16:57.22 | BabelO | bbl in 1 hour |
| 16:57.42 | Pryan | what means bbl ? |
| 16:58.48 | goxboxlive | ola |
| 16:59.02 | Pryan | ke paso goxboxlive |
| 16:59.04 | Pryan | xD |
| 17:02.37 | goxboxlive | Pryan: bbl : be back later |
| 17:02.56 | Pryan | ok |
| 17:03.28 | goxboxlive | cr2: are you here? |
| 17:03.41 | Pryan | im making the crosscompiler |
| 17:03.49 | Pryan | installing kde |
| 17:03.53 | Pryan | and so one |
| 17:05.14 | par | whats the latest kernel version these days |
| 17:06.38 | Pryan | i dont know where is the kernel in hh.org |
| 17:09.25 | par | would be great to have the binaries for the latest and greatest kernel and everything else |
| 17:09.43 | par | for the blueangel |
| 17:09.53 | Pryan | yeah |
| 17:10.26 | par | i have an olpc |
| 17:11.00 | par | so i want to run the distro on the blueangel and link wifi through adhoc to it |
| 17:11.12 | par | then nat the gprs data connection |
| 17:11.55 | Pryan | aham |
| 17:12.20 | Pryan | so you need support for wifi and gprs |
| 17:12.24 | par | yes |
| 17:12.41 | par | blueangel has everything as long as they got the wifi working |
| 17:12.51 | par | you can even make voice calls in linux on it now |
| 17:13.34 | par | unless something in the kernel changed dramaticaly and caused problems to any of that functionality which was working in previous versions |
| 17:17.28 | cr2 | par: there are some troubles with qtopia on ba. |
| 17:20.35 | par | i'll live with gpe |
| 17:21.14 | par | but all the basic functionality is still held for everything in hardware right/ |
| 17:22.05 | cr2 | yes |
| 17:22.16 | par | great! thanks cr2 |
| 17:24.39 | Pryan | hi cr2 |
| 17:25.32 | Pryan | how is the development on athena ? |
| 17:26.33 | cr2 | Pryan: i'm working on other things |
| 17:26.39 | Pryan | ok |
| 17:29.14 | Pryan | what is the actual status of athena ? what works ? |
| 17:29.50 | Pryan | touchscreen, extUSB, Bluetooth and what more |
| 17:38.48 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 17:39.54 | goxboxlive | hi Kevin2 |
| 17:40.11 | Kevin2 | What's new? |
| 17:40.53 | goxboxlive | Kevin2: at last we have suspend/resume and power draining fixed on universal. So now i am using my universal as my main phone |
| 17:41.01 | goxboxlive | running Qtopia |
| 17:42.59 | Kevin2 | goxboxlive: Wow, that's great. I wish we could get there with Apache. We really only need battery charge, the phone module, and some distro scripts to get there. |
| 17:43.13 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 17:43.44 | Kevin2 | cr2: Any luck with Hermes SD controller? |
| 17:44.15 | Kevin2 | I got Hermes keyboard working and I applied the openmoko fix for s3c usb (works great now). |
| 17:45.44 | Pryan | Kevin2 and the keyboard of athena ? |
| 17:46.08 | Kevin2 | Pryan: I'm told it should work for Athena also, but I don't have an Athena to verify that. |
| 17:47.10 | Pryan | ok, when xmas pass, i probably got a running gentoo on athena |
| 17:47.28 | Pryan | because i will buy the hardware |
| 17:47.31 | cr2 | Kevin2: i still can't get the async irq right, maybe i need to investigate the ati irq handling in more detail |
| 17:48.11 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
| 17:48.12 | cr2 | Kevin2: the main problem on athena will be the keyboard powerup on plugin |
| 17:48.18 | cr2 | hi goxboxlive |
| 17:48.40 | Kevin2 | cr2: What does the async irq code look like? |
| 17:48.40 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you create an image for the uni with .23 kernel ? |
| 17:49.15 | cr2 | Kevin2: the irq in wince sometimes come in the middle of the command code |
| 17:49.43 | cr2 | Kevin2: maybe i'll commit all my current code to CVS, so you'd look yourself. |
| 17:50.02 | Kevin2 | cr2: Why not push to git? |
| 17:51.05 | goxboxlive | cr2: Not an image, but i can make you the zImage and the modules in a tar ball so you can extract them yourself? |
| 17:51.16 | cr2 | hmm. i need to do a lot of handwaving already. i have n560 changes, and some other stuff in my tree. |
| 17:51.54 | cr2 | goxboxlive: hmm. my old wish of having the modules in initramfs... |
| 17:52.06 | goxboxlive | cr2: or i can send you my patch from the linuxtogo tree. But it includes some of the patches from ymerejt |
| 17:52.25 | goxboxlive | i send you the pathc, thats easier |
| 17:52.25 | cr2 | goxboxlive: create the tar.gz |
| 17:53.23 | cr2 | hehe, i'e broken a lof of things now. |
| 17:53.26 | cr2 | svn: Mismatched RA version for 'https': found 1.4.6, expected 1.3.0 |
| 17:55.23 | goxboxlive | cr2: mail sent. |
| 17:59.53 | goxboxlive | cr2: and the modules and the kenrel zImage is sent |
| 18:01.02 | cr2 | thanks. |
| 18:01.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive: have you enabled the sdio-gps ? |
| 18:01.56 | cr2 | it will not work, but a nice option anyway. |
| 18:02.09 | goxboxlive | i dont think so, check the kenrel defconfig |
| 18:03.14 | goxboxlive | cr2: what's the name of it in the config? I cant find it |
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| 18:04.26 | cr2 | goxboxlive: looking myself. btw, it should works on pxa-mci, i.e. magician |
| 18:05.13 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:06.07 | goxboxlive | cr2: i see that the config misses a lot, like acx and sp |
| 18:06.12 | goxboxlive | s/sp/so/ |
| 18:06.44 | BabelO | back ;) |
| 18:07.25 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
| 18:07.27 | BabelO | hi Kevin2 |
| 18:07.48 | BabelO | Kevin2: with have some trouble with BA and asic3 for 2.6.23 kernel |
| 18:08.24 | paulproteus | par++ that'd be great, OLPC + HTC |
| 18:09.32 | paulproteus | Good morning everybody! |
| 18:14.38 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Okay. I don't have any devices with asic3 so I don't think I can help much. |
| 18:15.12 | BabelO | kiozen: Chateau de Sauvanes - Faugéres |
| 18:15.41 | BabelO | Kevin2: ok, but it seem universal can boot and it have asic3 too |
| 18:16.13 | BabelO | Kevin2: maybe it is something like common gpio which psokolovsky have added |
| 18:16.55 | kiozen | BabelO: oh la la! I have to go dancing this evening, have to stay sober :( |
| 18:18.00 | BabelO | kiozen: lol |
| 18:18.08 | BabelO | kiozen: did your app support gpsd ? |
| 18:18.40 | kiozen | I plan to, but after reading the doc this afternoon I am not that sure :) |
| 18:19.08 | Pryan | * sci-geosciences/gpsd |
| 18:19.09 | Pryan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.12 | BabelO | Why ? |
| 18:19.48 | Pryan | gentoo supports gpsd |
| 18:20.00 | Pryan | whats running on athena ? |
| 18:20.10 | Pryan | touchscreen, extUSB, Bluetooth and what more |
| 18:20.25 | paulproteus | Oh, come on, Pryan. |
| 18:20.55 | kiozen | BabelO: looks like another piece of software in between, that hides what is done |
| 18:21.12 | kiozen | I wonder if I get happier with doing the NMEA directly |
| 18:21.16 | Pryan | paulproteus, :o) |
| 18:21.30 | Pryan | the emotion of the moment |
| 18:21.31 | Pryan | xD |
| 18:21.47 | kiozen | Babel=: on the other hand side with gpsd several apps can use the gpsr simultaniously |
| 18:21.56 | BabelO | kiozen: ok , i understand, it seem gpsd support sirf binary mode |
| 18:22.01 | kiozen | BabelO: I have to play with it first :) |
| 18:22.30 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, if you look at roadmap or gpsdrive, they use it |
| 18:22.46 | kiozen | BabelO: sante! My family is back (severe NMI mode) bbl |
| 18:23.06 | BabelO | kiozen: bbl, next week then , i ve to go me too |
| 18:23.36 | kiozen | have nice holidays |
| 18:23.45 | goxboxlive | BabelO: are you going away for x-mas? |
| 18:24.20 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes until next saturday or sunday after i go back to work |
| 18:25.03 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok, going to the alps again? |
| 18:25.11 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i ve to look at Blender this week, nex release do lot of interesting thing, maybe i can make a nice logo myself ;) |
| 18:25.31 | goxboxlive | WHat is Blender? |
| 18:25.31 | kiozen | lol |
| 18:25.40 | BabelO | goxboxlive: not the alps, going to Bordeaux :) |
| 18:25.50 | goxboxlive | ok :-) nice trip then |
| 18:25.54 | BabelO | goxboxlive: www.blender.org |
| 18:26.40 | BabelO | goxboxlive: and there is a new renderer to try www.indigorenderer.com |
| 18:27.27 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 18:36.11 | cr2 | hehe. gpsd is nothing more than a portable NMEA daemon. |
| 18:38.05 | BabelO | ola cr2, i m checking diff between universal and blueangel use of asic3 |
| 18:38.20 | cr2 | BabelO: gpsd could have been more ;) |
| 18:38.42 | cr2 | BabelO: there is no difference. |
| 18:39.20 | BabelO | cr2: i remember i have added something to support gpio2 |
| 18:39.46 | cr2 | BabelO: well, then you need to blame yourself :) |
| 18:40.26 | BabelO | cr2: or maybe it is the mmc insert detection, does universal use it ? |
| 18:40.52 | cr2 | insert detection is not used anywhere. |
| 18:41.06 | cr2 | it maybe the .readonly detection. |
| 18:47.45 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, So we should figure out how to detect the carrier, right? |
| 18:47.58 | paulproteus | I mean the phone carrier, not like "CARRIER DETECT" on a serial line. |
| 18:48.03 | paulproteus | Mine says my operator is the string "0", which can't be right. |
| 18:48.30 | paulproteus | ymerejt said that the phone doesn't report it the normal way - I guess we/I should trace the serial line in Windows to see where the name comes from? |
| 18:49.08 | par | in the radio rom? |
| 18:50.21 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: he said it was read from the sim card |
| 18:50.39 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Interesting, I wonder what Windows does when you roam? |
| 18:50.57 | par | right, it would be just be from the sim |
| 18:51.00 | goxboxlive | But i am not sure about it. I mean while i have been out of the country i have had other operators on it. |
| 18:51.09 | goxboxlive | I guess cr2 can answer us this |
| 18:52.59 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: i think the most imortant in Qtopia now is to have system sound working together with the mediaengine. |
| 18:53.18 | goxboxlive | I am testing on my ficphone now, to see if helix and phone alert works togetter |
| 18:54.22 | cr2 | paulproteus: the operator names are hardcoded. |
| 18:54.33 | cr2 | paulproteus: look at the gnokii source. |
| 18:55.07 | goxboxlive | cr2: but from where does it get the info about the correct operator?? |
| 18:55.25 | goxboxlive | is there a list in Qtopia or something? |
| 18:55.28 | cr2 | paulproteus: htc hadrcodes the names everywhere :) if you can dump your radio firmware, maybe it's also added there, but i doubt it. |
| 18:55.37 | goxboxlive | that says 24001 is telenor? |
| 18:55.55 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it's a dumb idea to hardcode it anyway |
| 18:56.02 | par | carrier specific information is usually located in the radio rom |
| 18:56.06 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.21 | cr2 | par: these assigments change with time. |
| 18:57.02 | cr2 | i think the table should be ripped out of gnokii, and updated from the data in recent rilgsm.dll's |
| 18:57.14 | cr2 | and put to /usr/share/gsm.ids |
| 18:57.18 | par | if the phone is locked to a specific carrier, there is even a special area where that is coded.. and its in neither the radio rom or the base rom. |
| 18:57.22 | cr2 | like it's done for pci and usb |
| 18:57.44 | cr2 | par: ? |
| 18:57.56 | par | thats the only exception .. if the phone is locked. |
| 18:58.05 | cr2 | par: you speak about strage creations like iphone, right ? |
| 18:58.05 | goxboxlive | cr2: what do i have to do to prevent universal from wakeup when touching the touchscreen? |
| 18:58.18 | par | no, well blueangel on this one |
| 18:58.47 | cr2 | par: it was known how to unlock ba many years ago. |
| 18:59.01 | cr2 | goxboxlive: is it not masked ? |
| 18:59.39 | goxboxlive | cr2: No i dont think so. Because when it is in suspend mode it wakes up when i hit the TS. |
| 18:59.43 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the buttons are not masked too, so will cause a wakeup. |
| 18:59.45 | goxboxlive | I want to get rid of that |
| 18:59.59 | goxboxlive | cr2: but the buttons is ok i think, but not the TS |
| 19:00.04 | goxboxlive | can we fix it? |
| 19:00.37 | par | cr2: yes, that is correct. |
| 19:01.27 | par | cr2: however, that still doesn't change the fact that the area where the lock is configured isn't changed in either the base or radio rom area.. its in a special area of the phone |
| 19:02.27 | cr2 | goxboxlive: do you wakeup on sound or cam buttoin ? |
| 19:03.17 | cr2 | par: i didn't look into that in detail. you mean CID ? it has nothing to do with the reported operator id. |
| 19:03.39 | par | oh ok |
| 19:03.51 | goxboxlive | cxri'll check |
| 19:04.00 | par | so the reported id is simply read directly from the sim |
| 19:04.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes it wakes on sound button |
| 19:04.27 | cr2 | goxboxlive: 24001 is telenor, this data is compiled into rilgsm.dll. and is available in gnokii |
| 19:04.36 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:05.00 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok. backlight button ? |
| 19:05.09 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes it also wakes when hitting the cam button |
| 19:05.12 | goxboxlive | I'll check |
| 19:05.40 | goxboxlive | baccklight button wakes it up |
| 19:06.07 | goxboxlive | and the memo/record button also |
| 19:06.39 | goxboxlive | so i guess it wakes up no mather what you hit on it. It also wakes when closing/opening the lid |
| 19:07.14 | goxboxlive | But i mean for it doesnt matter, but we should have mask the TS. It's anoying |
| 19:07.30 | goxboxlive | s/it/now/ |
| 19:18.36 | Pryan | reboot |
| 19:18.59 | par | paulproteus: yeah, i figured i would just connect the OLPC via ad hoc wireless to the BA and use iptables with ip forwarding and masquerading to handle its nat on the phone side for connecting to the internet. |
| 19:19.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: have a look here, the TS should be masked... |
| 19:19.53 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalASIC3 |
| 19:20.23 | cr2 | because we init asic3 with the same wince values. |
| 19:21.00 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you add the lcd powerdown command to default.txt before the boot command ? |
| 19:21.29 | goxboxlive | ok, Yes, what is the line |
| 19:21.31 | cr2 | and remove the LCD gpio bits from .init |
| 19:21.40 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 19:21.42 | goxboxlive | how? |
| 19:22.20 | cr2 | everything that is "LCD power" here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalASIC3 |
| 19:22.42 | cr2 | i'll check |
| 19:22.57 | cr2 | the command is 'setlcd 4' ? |
| 19:23.08 | cr2 | BabelO: do you remember the lcd powerdown command ? |
| 19:26.22 | BabelO | cr2: no :( |
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| 21:46.42 | Pryan | hi |
| 21:54.59 | Pryan | cr2 its a joke. i reinstall the system in x86 because the emulators and it doesnt compile |
| 21:55.55 | Pryan | i will install the dependencies and get binaries until the bugs are solutioned |
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| 22:25.26 | Pryan2 | wb |
| 22:25.42 | Pryan2 | im with wifi now |
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| 22:56.01 | Pryan | wb rmoravcik |
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| 23:20.46 | Pryan | wb |
| 23:21.29 | eway | pryan why u always welcome yourself back ? |
| 23:21.40 | eway | strange |
| 23:21.51 | Pryan | hahhah. im very polite |
| 23:22.08 | eway | no definantly strange |
| 23:22.17 | Pryan | hahhah |
| 23:22.25 | Pryan | well, ok |
| 23:22.49 | Pryan | its only a way to say hello |
| 23:23.10 | Pryan | but because you come back |
| 23:23.24 | Pryan | says welcome back |
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| 23:26.02 | Pryan | hi bd |
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| 23:28.32 | Pryan | eway what phone do u have ? |
| 23:33.42 | Pryan | Kevin2 are u here ? |
| 23:34.37 | Pryan | well, somebody, has hh.org a cvs to download the latest snapshot of the kernel ? |
| 23:35.40 | Pryan | s/somebody/anybody/ |
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| 23:45.44 | Pryan | wb |
| 23:46.15 | Pryan | this wifi is a complete shit |
| 23:54.33 | eway | Pryan i have 2 universals + access to another 3 universals also access to a htc touch a wizard a magician a himalaya an ameo and a prophet |
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| 23:59.17 | Pryan | wats the last you have read from me ? |
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