IRC log for #htc-linux on 20071221

00:00.07cr2dcordes: it's probbaly a comment in the code.
00:00.25dcordesSnippet from MDA Vario3 QCSBL (qcsbl_mc.c):
00:01.37dcordescr2, I wonder why we need to coke with this- doe not android provide a solution for the microkernel thing?
00:01.53dcordess /doe /does
00:02.07dcordes~lart apt
00:02.07aptslams dcordes against a large cement Tux
00:02.20dcordeslol
00:02.35dcordesman that hurt
00:09.46parany decent support for wifi in the new kernel that works on the blueangel?
00:17.30dcordesgood night
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01:08.36blotchhello im having a bit of problems figuring this out on my own and have downloaded all sorts of files but didnt have any luck. ive got a htc blueangel qtek9090 and trying to get linux on it can someone help me out? is there a single 'self executing' cab that i can run to boot into linux or how else? i have tried going into linux and creating partitions and file systems but no luck yet please please some help?
01:31.17blotchhow about a way to install this onto a sd card without using linux as obvioulsy im doing something wrong in it since it wont let me to install the file system
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04:51.52ewaymorning all
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05:32.38goxboxlivegood morning
05:33.00ewaymorning goxboxlive
05:34.25ewayhmm i wonder
05:34.39paulproteusMorning goxboxlive.
05:35.00ewaygoxboxlivemaybe you can help point me in the right direction for an answer to this
05:36.15ewayi`ve been trying to use my universal as a usb modem with the universal running wince and witth my system running linux
05:36.41paulproteusThat should be easy enough - doesn't it appear as a USB serial device?
05:37.00ewaybut every time i try its like i dont get any at responses any ideas or pointers in the right direction
05:37.13ewayyeh
05:37.30paulproteusWell, what have you tried, and what leads you to believe it isn't working?
05:37.43ewayit appears fine i modprobe usbserial with vendor and productid`s set
05:38.06ewayand it finds the devices and gives me /dev/ttyUSB0
05:38.29ewaybut thats as far as i`ve been able to get
05:39.29ewaywell when i try to dial pppd reports a timeout in the chat script
05:39.40paulproteusThe ppp parameters are very important.
05:40.03ewayi no i spent ages getting multiple examples
05:40.37ewaythere was me and 2 other coders in the 1 place at the time and none of us could get it to work under linux
05:41.01ewayunder win2k winxp and vista no problem
05:43.48ewayi`ll try it again in a bit and pastebin the output from pppd
05:44.31ewayforgot to say we tried with different distro`s and different kernels
05:45.02ewayeven tried with a knoppix cd
05:45.56ewayalthough debian isn`t my favorite distro to work with
05:48.03ewaymorning btw paulproteus
05:48.19paulproteusEvening. (-:
05:48.22paulproteusI'm about to go to sleep.
05:52.38ewayi tried doing that bout 4 hours ago but failed :(
05:52.46paulproteusOuch!
05:52.48paulproteusIt's nearly 1am here.
05:53.04paulproteus(I'm on the East coast of the US right now.)
05:53.16ewayjust coming up for 6am here gmt
05:58.58ewayanyway i`ll try the modem again later on today and pastebin the results hopfully some1 will spot what i`ve been doing wrong
06:00.36goxboxlivepaulproteus: have yu build any Qtopia image yet?
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06:05.24paulproteusgoxboxlive, No, I feel building qtopia is no fun until I have the improved kernel.
06:05.51goxboxliveok
06:06.02paulproteusBut also I have just arrived at my parents' house for Christmas and am going to go to sleep, but when I wake up Friday, or all of Saturday I should have lots of time.
06:06.39goxboxlivepaulproteus: good night :-)
06:06.53paulproteusAre you going to build a kernel binary that has ymeret's changes?
06:07.21paulproteusymerejt, rather.
06:07.31paulproteusHe keeps making commits with the most meaningless log messages. (-;
06:08.33paulproteusI wonder why in r16 he removes phonebook support?
06:08.39goxboxlivepaulproteus: what is your svn adress?
06:08.50paulproteushttp://svn.asheesh.org/htcuniversal
06:09.37goxboxlivei want to se the logs. Can you enable the diff settings on your svn. I am at and cant download.
06:10.30paulproteusI'll put up something but not tonight; I'll just go to bed for now.
06:11.42goxboxlive:-) great
06:11.59paulproteusBTW, it'd be awesome if you feel like making a new Qtopia image soon (-:
06:14.19paulproteushttp://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/2007-December/027555.html
06:14.24paulproteusWhat other IMAP server has *fanboys*? (-:
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07:45.07Pryan2hi all except one
07:52.15Pryan2hi cr2, dba358, goxboxlive, Kevin2, paulproteus
07:53.09Pryan2good morning vietnam !
08:29.56Pryan2somebody must be online ... im happy because i get holidays,. from today until 7 jan.
08:30.32Pryan2to work porting gentoo to htc phones
08:47.20goxboxlivePryan2: are you going to rn openoko or Qtopia on it, so you get phone support?
08:48.13Pryan2qtopia
08:50.05Pryan2hey, in my pc it hangs on the presentation screen. says please wait forever
08:50.13Pryan2why ?
08:52.24Pryan2i will see the logs
08:52.52Pryan2where qtopia keeps the logs
08:52.58Pryan2goxboxlive
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08:56.55Pryan2maybe it is waiting to the touch screen
08:57.05Pryan2i. dont know
08:58.01goxboxlivePryan2 do yuou have a unlock label at the left downer corner
08:58.21Pryan2i think yes
08:58.44Pryan2i cannot check it now
09:01.54Pryan2why goxboxlive ?
09:02.36goxboxlivebecause i know the answer how yo0u can fix it
09:03.50Pryan2ok, after the eat time, when im on my pc. you tell to me
09:04.17goxboxlivejust disable the modem in qpe.sh
09:04.29Pryan2ahm
09:04.47Pryan2im running qpe directly
09:05.37Pryan2./installation/dir/bin/qpe
09:08.26goxboxlivePryan2 yes, and qpe is setup witth modem, you have to export to not have it
09:08.43Pryan2ok
09:09.00goxboxliveYou are probably using one of my images, so in /etc/init.d/qpe.sh you can see what i have done.
09:09.20Pryan2no
09:09.38Pryan2i compiled. qtopia from scratch
09:09.47Pryan2in gentoo
09:09.58Pryan2it compiles ok
09:10.35Pryan2so i hope it makes the same with arm compiler
09:11.46goxboxlivePryan2 ok i c
09:13.33Pryan2gentoo is the most powerfull distribution i think
09:14.00Pryan2its the best
09:14.51goxboxliveWell i know a lot of people that will disagree with you there.
09:14.56goxboxliveI am not using gentoo.
09:15.04goxboxlivenever even tried it.
09:15.34Pryan2hehehe.. when you try it you cant give up
09:16.37Pryan2what phone do u have ?
09:17.24Pryan2i will make stage4 and cr2 will make the .exe
09:17.26goxboxlivephnes?
09:17.29goxboxlivei have
09:17.53goxboxliveHTC Magiician, Ne01973, HTC Universal, Motorola A780
09:18.00goxboxliveAll of the running Qtopia
09:18.10Pryan2hahahha
09:18.11goxboxlivesome of them with\out phonesupport
09:18.18Pryan2ok
09:19.19Pryan2do you have usb stick to boot gentoo from ?
09:19.20Pryan2if you want to test gentoo
09:21.18Pryan2i want to test gentoo in universal and other phones
09:23.57Pryan2goxboxlive ...
09:25.05goxboxlivePryan2 do you have a image i can put on a SD or usbstick for Universal ready?
09:25.37Pryan2nope. i first must do it
09:26.22Pryan2with splashscreen
09:26.22Pryan2hheheh
09:26.58Pryan2it will be the first splashscreen i configure
09:27.17Pryan2but i hope it will be ok
09:27.57goxboxliveoh so you ment on my computer. No, i am satisfied with the distro i am using
09:28.29Pryan2no. i said on universal
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09:30.06Pryan2why ? cannot make splashscreen ?
09:30.26Pryan2i dont know, but i will try it
09:31.30kiozenhi all
09:32.04kiozenhow do I make a screenshot on a mobile device ?
09:32.31kiozenobviously the print screen is missing :)
09:32.43kiozens/screen/key/
09:34.22goxboxlivekiozen: dumpscreen ?
09:34.37kiozenok, I'll ty.. thanks
09:35.19goxboxlivenope, isent suplied on the image  i am running.
09:35.29kiozengoxboxlive: btw, did you try out the agps on your fic phone already?
09:38.27goxboxlivekiozen: no. i havent. I try later. Does it work?
09:39.23kiozengoxboxlive: don't know that is what I wanted to know
09:39.59goxboxliveok, i'll let u know
09:41.05goxboxlivekiozen: http://www.openmoko.org.pl/node/55
09:41.10Pryan2goxboxlive all my work is for htc phones, for desktop its other people working
09:41.40Pryan2so you want to try my distro ?
09:42.08goxboxliveof course i can
09:42.16Pryan2yeah
09:42.25Pryan2thanks a lot man
09:43.28Pryan2lets see if everything goes like in my mind
09:50.21Pryan2maybe my gift of magick kings will be an stage4 goxboxlive
09:50.56Pryan2arround 6 Jan
09:51.37Pryan2s/maybe/probably/
09:52.18Pryan2running console or qtopia. i dont know
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09:52.45Pryan2for the alpha base probably running console
09:52.58BabelOhi
09:53.09Pryan2hi BabelO
09:56.03kiozenhi BabelO, how did you do the screenshot on your web page?
09:56.40BabelOkiozen: hello :)
09:57.16BabelOkiozen: i use ksnapshot with mode windows zone, something like that
09:57.49BabelOkiozen: but you need to set QWS_SIZE too
09:58.13kiozenBabelO: so you did it on a pc, not on the mobile device?
10:03.56Pryan2try some aplication that uses fb device kiozen
10:04.21Pryan2google it
10:06.48BabelOkiozen: yes on the pc over vnc, on the mobile screenshot application is broken
10:08.10kiozenBabelO: ahhh here we go :)
10:10.08Pryan2kiozen are u using frame buffer ?
10:11.12kiozenPryan2: afaik  qws is using the frame buffer
10:11.54Pryan2then use some aplication working under frame buffer devices
10:12.19Pryan2i know they exist
10:12.38kiozenPryan2: the vncclient does the trick for me :)
10:13.01Pryan2ok. how do you want
10:23.46BabelOkiozen: maybe you can try screenshot in /opt/qtopia/bin, maybe in latest snapshot it is ok ;)
10:24.11BabelOkiozen: other thing, how do you solve your key entry when drawing ?
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10:25.43kiozenBabelO: vnc is fine, I save myself time to transfere the shot to the pc :)
10:26.08kiozenwhat you mean with "key entry"?
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10:36.55BabelOkiozen: you post a question on #qtopia about blocking key entry while drawing something to the screen as i understand
10:37.50kiozenBabelO: ah that one, no soultion sofar, I tried to set a flag and to ignore all events if set
10:38.15kiozenBabelO: before I rest the flag (after drawing) I call processEvents()
10:38.27kiozens/rest/reset/
10:39.06kiozenBabelO: but it's not working. I have the feeling qtopia has no event queue :)
10:39.59kiozenbut I will give it a second try this afetrnoon
10:48.01BabelOkiozen: in my app i just use keypessevent and filter with that
10:51.06kiozenBabelO: me, too, but if I hold down a key, more keyevents are processed than I can handle because drawing takes some time.
10:51.29kiozenBabelO: thus I have to find a way to skip the surplus events
10:51.48kiozenBabelO: just like it is done with update() by the QT subsystem
10:54.57BabelOok
10:58.24BabelOkiozen: i just see in qtopia doc that we have "un double emploi", in kernel there is a driver to manage keyboard backlight, and this one is also in qtopia
10:59.41BabelOkiozen: if you found a good gallerie screenshot manager for qtopia, tell me which one ;)
11:00.07kiozenBabelO: "un double emploi" ? my french is quite rusty...
11:00.32kiozenhaven't used it for 17 years
11:01.50BabelOkiozen: yes, two thing to do the same work
11:03.27kiozenBabelO:  I don't get it :) what has the backlight to do with the event queue?
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11:06.19BabelOkiozen: nothing, i just find it while looking at event ;)
11:06.26BabelOhi pH5
11:06.43pH5hej BabelO
11:07.01BabelOpH5: i am able to boot with a pivot_root, like before
11:07.39BabelOfood time
11:07.40BabelObbl
11:07.48pH5BabelO: pivot_root from initrd into rootfs on sd?
11:11.07pH5shite. my graphics card is dying
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11:16.08DreaddddddÂñåì ïðèâåò!
11:16.12Dreaddddddòüôó
11:16.16Dreaddddddhi all!
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12:21.34Pryan2hi pH5
12:21.43pH5hi Pryan2
12:21.54Pryan2wats up
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12:55.34dcordesHello
12:56.01Pryan2dcordes hola
12:56.12Pryan2whats up ?
12:56.39dcordesjust got up. How is your gentoo progress?
12:57.10Pryan2today start my holidays so i can work on it
12:57.33Pryan2they let me get out of the assilum to day 7
12:59.29Pryan2atm there is no progress, i must compile a kernel for a determined processor and it give me errors
12:59.51Pryan2to could emulate the arm arch
12:59.53dcordescool. you should start off booting zImage
12:59.58Pryan2with qemu
13:00.08Pryan2yes
13:01.10dcordeswhy the hassle with qemu and not start it natively on your target machine?
13:01.48Pryan2because i havent the hardware to run linux on my htc
13:02.09Pryan2this christmas ill buy it
13:03.00dcordesoh i see. maybe wait for the overlords to have the features which lack working
13:03.23dcordesdo you know what they are?
13:03.36Pryan2yeah, i speak with kevin2 and with cr2
13:04.06dcordesso what is it?
13:04.10Pryan2to have the drivers of keyboard and SD
13:04.25Pryan2there is no progress
13:05.43Pryan2so i must to buy all this hardware: extUSB cable, usb hub, SD card and ps2/USB converter
13:06.14dcordesfor your purpose you could use a console over usbnet
13:07.18dcordesah i see :) no usb cable
13:07.50Pryan2yes
13:08.24dcordes<PROTECTED>
13:08.51Pryan2to use how
13:09.15Pryan2i tryed nfs boot to boot from softgun, the arm emulator
13:09.49dcordesit can ease the progress of image testing. you won't have to copy stuff to sd/usb storage with it
13:10.13dcordesanyway time for some breakfast. bye
13:10.20Pryan2bye
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13:10.46Pryan2we  will speak later
13:10.54Pryan2from my house
13:17.53kiozencr: http://www.qlandkarte.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=9
13:24.39Pryan2kiozen muahahhah
13:25.49Pryan2what phone are u using ?
13:26.12Pryan2it has sirf iii ?
13:27.44goxboxliveBabelO: there?
13:28.24Pryan2hi goxboxlive
13:28.39goxboxliveBabelO: do you know why this happends? pastebin.no/2914 ??
13:28.46BabelOkiozen: lol i like your screenshot title ;)
13:28.49goxboxliveI am using ymerejt source
13:28.53BabelOgoxboxlive: yes
13:29.29goxboxlive"No such file or directory"
13:29.34kiozenBabelO: Pryan2: it's a ppc, yes sirf3
13:29.50goxboxliveBut when i try with ficgta01 on the same source it configure.
13:30.38BabelOgoxboxlive: look strange, check the configure in device directory, and remove reduce export settings
13:30.50goxboxliveok
13:30.58BabelOkiozen: i hope cr2 look at your screenshot ;)
13:31.16Pryan2kiozen then its only a recode
13:31.24BabelOkiozen: it is gpsd not gpsr :)
13:31.36Pryan2ahm
13:31.41Pryan2gpsd
13:32.20kiozenBabelO: I hope it does not annoy him ;)  but I am looking forward using that thing.
13:33.17kiozenPryan2: gpsr (gps receiver), it has to be powerd in a sane way like most of the other gadgets in this ppc
13:33.21BabelOgoxboxlive: do you have dbus-1.pc file somewhere in your path, it is how qtopia detect dbus presence
13:33.26goxboxlivesorry BabelO i found it
13:33.40goxboxlivethere where something in the configure file wich doesnt belong there
13:33.55goxboxliveHe had added skip -dqt and so in to the file
13:34.08Pryan2but sirf iii has already drivers for linux doesnt ?
13:36.08BabelOPryan2: it is not a problem, sirf is over serial port and all the things are managed by gpsd
13:36.26kiozenPryan2: it's connect to a com port, and you can control it via NMEA commands. But first I need it to be switched on.
13:37.15Pryan2aham
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13:38.06Pryan2i need cr2 too for sd drivers for athena
13:38.52Pryan2but i must to spend money and buy more hardware
13:39.29Pryan2if i want gentoo running before christmas
13:39.50Tykchello all
13:40.22Tykcgentoo as central heating? ;)
13:40.24Pryan2hi Tykc
13:40.32Pryan2yes
13:40.42Tykc:-)
13:40.45Pryan2for all htc phones
13:41.04Tykcrun Gentoo on htc?
13:41.19Pryan2yes
13:42.26TykcI know about only gentoo on zaurus and hx4700
13:42.31Tykc:-(
13:42.47Pryan2ill try it
13:42.59Pryan2lets see how its going
13:43.11goxboxlivehttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_PDA
13:44.08goxboxliveTykc: hx4700 and a lot of the other htc devices has a lot in common
13:44.28goxboxlivelike universal, is allmost a copy of hx4700.
13:44.46Tykchx4700 was made by htc for HP?
13:45.31Tykcbd2, hi
13:45.40Pryanhi here
13:47.37goxboxliveTykc: yes
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14:05.01kiozenBabelO: looks like those key events are not collected in Qtopia's event queue, but from something below that. What ever it is...
14:10.13cr2kiozen: you'd wait 2 weeks :)
14:10.46kiozencr2: I know but I am like a small kid :)
14:10.59cr2goxboxlive: i don't understand the purpose of gentoo on a phone ? for a pure geek value ?
14:11.39cr2goxboxlive: the wiki page mentions booting with linexec. i think it's a not very smart joke ;)
14:14.39Pryancr2 geek ? yeah
14:14.40PryanxD
14:14.50Pryanits the best distribution
14:15.04Pryanill try to boot with haret
14:22.46Pryanshit, qemu doesnt work
14:28.20goxboxlivecr2: i agree, i think angstrom does the work
14:28.49Pryanangstrom has ipkg system, i dont like it
14:28.56Pryani prefer emerge
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14:54.44Pryanhola dcordes
14:55.26dcordeshi Pryan did they let you out yetß
14:56.25Pryannah, qemu does not work
14:56.57dcordesI mean did they leave you out of assilum or whatever
14:57.07Pryani think its better wait until i buy the hardware
14:57.12Pryanah yes
14:57.16Pryanhehe
14:57.32Pryani was waiting the bus while speaking with you
14:59.36dcordesisn't it expensive with mobile internet all time or do you get *dsl in asylum?
15:01.07Pryani use gprs
15:01.23Pryan1,2 euros max each day
15:03.30Pryani use my athena
15:03.38Pryanin windows mobile atm
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15:04.18dcordes~lart gentoo
15:04.18aptresizes gentoo's terminal to 40x24
15:04.23dcordeseehehehe
15:05.21PryanxDDDD
15:05.42Pryancr2 are you here ?
15:09.45paulproteusPryan, BTW I did try Gentoo and I did give it because I disliked it.
15:11.13Pryanwhy you disliked it ?
15:12.06paulproteusLong story.
15:15.25Pryantell, i have time
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15:27.00kiozengentoo is the perfect distro to make you look busy over days while installing it.
15:27.27kiozenI tried it with my media center, it took me 3 days to install,
15:27.40Pryanwell, yes
15:27.57kiozenand after the 2nd upgrade the system harddisc was full
15:28.18kiozenwith junk from emerge
15:29.06kiozenIt took me 1 hour to install SuSE and half a day to strip it down to a nice size
15:30.05kiozenThe idea of gentoo is tempting on the first spot
15:31.01kiozenbut you realize pretty soon that compiling the whole system again and again, just to install another app isn't what you want
15:33.13Pryanhmm, well, but the system compiles once time
15:33.28Pryanonly the apps what you want
15:34.46kiozenif you install a thing like cups half a year later you have fun ;)
15:35.08Pryanhahaha
15:35.22Pryanfor this i want to install an emulator on PC
15:35.40Pryanto install EVERITHING you could need on your pda
15:36.04Pryanand because i havent the hardware to run gentoo on my pda
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16:10.08sK3Lhi i am looking for hel with connecting my HTC TyTN II with ubuntu 7.10
16:11.01sK3Lok i have TyTN II, witch run WM6, i do connect it via USB, (i am using Ubuntu 7.10), it do connects (using dccm & synce-serial-start) but disconnects after 1 second, i found that this may be caused by password but my device do not have one (i did set password and tryed dccm -p XXXX but it did the same thing) my tail -f /var/log/messages says:
16:11.10sK3Lhttp://pastebin.com/d57b563ae
16:11.46sK3Lany suggestions, thanks in advance
16:17.45PryansK3L do you have your kernel configured for ipv6 ?
16:28.51sK3Li just changed dccm to odccm and i am connected now but synce-psatus says:
16:29.00sK3Lsynce-pstatus: Could not find configuration at path '(Default)'
16:30.23Pryanhmm, i dont know how to help with this
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17:37.04BabelOgoxboxlive: around ?
17:39.41goxboxliveBabelO: yes
17:39.44goxboxliveoui
17:39.47goxboxlivepardon
17:39.55BabelO:)
17:40.12BabelOgoxboxlive: is GPS working on neo ?
17:41.01goxboxlivehavent tested it yet. I am testing out Qtopia on universal now. Ymerejt has made some changes to my device folder. And he says it works better. But i cant see that it does yet :-).
17:41.29goxboxliveSO no i am building a new image to test it out, together with a new console image
17:42.07goxboxliveThe ficphone has a really nice screen. And it isent that slow compared to universal and magician running Qtopia
17:42.37goxboxliveI guess it helps that it has 128MB ram and running the mage from flash
17:43.18goxboxliveSO if we ever get flash support on one of ou htc devices i guess the speed will increase
17:43.33BabelOgoxboxlive: yes and maybe you can tune it, with some tips for linux laptop
17:43.43paulproteusOr if we use the hack I found on xda-developers to solder 128MB of RAM into the Universal. (-;
17:44.31goxboxlivepaulproteus: i have looked at it, but i think it is too expensive. Good morning btw
17:44.39paulproteusGood morning! (-:
17:44.51paulproteusI found a place that will sell me the RAM chips for US$12 each, which isn't so bad.
17:44.53goxboxlivei'm gonna make me a cup of coffee . bbl
17:45.06goxboxlivepaulproteus: , ok but what about the work?
17:45.19paulproteusWell, I have no idea for that!
17:45.25paulproteusAnd I'm not personally capable of doing it.
17:46.21paulproteusI hear on the forum that many cell phone repair shops can do it fairly cheaply.
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18:23.11goxboxlivepaulproteus: i am now testing the Qtopia image. it seems ok. But sms isent working, I have edited the source to see if it works now
18:24.19paulproteusgoxboxlive, Cool - BTW I'm not so interested in SMS anyway as much as phone + sleep.
18:24.39goxboxlivereally
18:24.55goxboxlivei think it's a must for a main phone
18:24.57paulproteusYeah, my friends in the US don't much use SMS.
18:25.04paulproteusIn Europe I hear it's essential.
18:25.20paulproteusBut in the US you get charged to *receive* SMS messages, typically, so they're catching on slowly.
18:31.07dba358yeah, in most contracts you have a number of SMS included per month anyways
18:31.17dba358so it's used extensivly
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18:51.28BabelOola pH5
18:52.46goxboxlivehtcuniversal with Qtopia is working real great now.
18:53.17paulproteusgoxboxlive, Then upload it and I'll agree with you. (-:
18:53.28goxboxlivepaulproteus: do you get charged for receiving sms?? Thats reak weired
18:53.36goxboxlives/reak/real/
18:53.38paulproteusgoxboxlive, Yes, the USA is a strange place!
18:53.52goxboxlivepaulproteus: :-)
18:54.16goxboxliveI have to create a cab file then
18:54.40paulproteusI never liked your cab files, all I want is a normal filesystem tarball.
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18:55.31pH5Hola BabelO, ¿Cómo estás? :)
18:55.33goxboxlivepaulproteus: do you use linux filesystem on your sd card?
18:55.39paulproteusgoxboxlive, Yeah, on partition 2
18:55.46paulproteusIs that what you're doing?
18:56.03pH5BabelO: I didn't get what you said earlier. BA boots, but not if you have asic3_mmc built-in?
18:56.08goxboxliveyes, i have it on the third. I have swap on the seconf
18:56.18paulproteusInteresting, I was trying to decide if swap was a good idea.
18:56.44BabelOpH5: if you build asic3_mmc as a module, ba boot
18:56.49goxboxlivepaulproteus: on universal it is, because of only 64MB ram. But on magician 128MB you dont need it
18:57.16pH5ok
18:57.27paulproteusI personally think that swap on a phone is hilarious.
18:57.35goxboxlivehmm seems like i am going to use my universal instead now ... hmm i used the ficphone one day :-/
18:57.36paulproteusIt may also be a good idea!
18:57.57goxboxlivepaulproteus: how do i upload to your svn. I need o change one file
18:57.59BabelOpH5: and we have same situation a year ago, and i did not remember how we solve it
18:58.19paulproteusgoxboxlive, Let me give you an account - PM me a password for username goxboxlive; otherwise I'll make the password goxboxlive.
18:58.21goxboxlivepH5: It's a fast little devel :-D
18:58.43goxboxlivepaulproteus: i'll mail you a password
18:58.48paulproteusgoxboxlive, Great.
19:00.21ymerejthi everybody
19:00.30goxboxlivehi ymerejt
19:00.35paulproteusHowdy ymerejt.
19:01.00goxboxliveymerejt: i have build your source now. Works good, though sms wasent working.
19:01.02paulproteusgoxboxlive, Okay, I set the password as per your email.
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19:01.34ymerejtgoxboxlive, only SMS send does not work
19:01.51goxboxliveymerejt: it does now :-) It even wakes up on incomming
19:01.56ymerejtgoxboxlive, and it's a really bad idea to try because it will stop the AT dialog
19:02.41ymerejtgoxboxlive, you have send SMS and it's work.
19:02.43ymerejt?
19:02.49goxboxliveymerejt: yes
19:02.59ymerejtwhich version of qtopia are you using ?
19:03.03goxboxliveYou have forgot one line from my source at+csca?
19:03.19goxboxlivethis at chat gets the sms service number
19:04.10paulproteusgoxboxlive, Just commit it and let him read the patch. (-;
19:04.22goxboxlivepaulproteus: i dont know how to comitt
19:04.28goxboxlivei dont know svn
19:04.34goxboxlivejust svn diff and co :-D
19:04.38paulproteuslol, goxboxlive
19:04.39ymerejtsvn ci -m 'log message' filename
19:04.45goxboxliveok
19:04.50paulproteus"cI" is short for "commit" btw
19:06.17goxboxlivedone
19:06.24goxboxliveok thx
19:08.15goxboxliveymerejt: and also, the phone doesnt work any good with the original qtopiamodemcellbroadcast.cpp. I tested but it hangs. And with the one i edited everything is stable and fine.
19:08.33ymerejtgoxboxlive, yes I have tried too ;)
19:08.37goxboxliveI'll upload my image so both of you can test it. The kernel zImage is in the boot filder
19:08.51ymerejtgoxboxlive, I have problem if I disable AtChat logging too ...
19:09.08goxboxliveohh i havent noticed that
19:09.50ymerejtgoxboxlive, have you ever tried to disable this ?
19:10.20goxboxlivei can test now
19:10.47goxboxliveymerejt: You have to add logging your self, so on first boot it is disabled
19:13.42goxboxlivepaulproteus: there?
19:14.05paulproteusYes.
19:14.11goxboxlivepaulproteus: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/images/qtopia.htcuniversal-4.3.1-Kernel-2.6.21.hh20.rootfs.tar.bz2
19:14.47goxboxlivei'll make a cab file of it and upload to our host site. This is only my place
19:14.49paulproteusgoxboxlive, Okay, gimme a minute to download + install (-:
19:14.56goxboxlive:-)
19:16.42ymerejtSo you are using the 4.3.1 qtopia release
19:16.50goxboxliveymerejt: we still have issues with double reporting on incomming call.
19:17.20ymerejtgoxboxlive, Could describe more this bug?
19:17.25goxboxlivewhen i call it, it reports a missing call during the ringing. I pastebin so u could see
19:22.08ymerejtgoxboxlive, awaiting ...
19:22.57goxboxliveymerejt: i have to enablethe LOGS. I dont remember who it was.
19:24.04goxboxliveymerejt: but. When i call my universal. It rings (of course :) ) . And if i let it ring 3 times it reports a "missed call" and the start ringning again.
19:24.25goxboxlivedid you understand ?
19:24.30ymerejtyes
19:24.34goxboxlivegood :-)
19:24.43ymerejtI think I should commit some changes
19:24.44ymerejt;)
19:26.55paulproteusgoxboxlive, Does this kernel need an initrd?
19:27.29goxboxlivepaulproteus: no
19:27.39goxboxliveymerejt: look at this: http://pastebin.no/2915
19:28.33goxboxliveand at  line 019 it reports a missing call wich it's not. It's still the same incommin call.
19:29.15goxboxliveit rings 3 times, then a pause then it rings 3 times again before my answering machine takes it.
19:29.34goxboxlivepaulproteus: you just use haret and startup.txt
19:29.52goxboxliveand the zImage in the /boot fioder of the image
19:29.56paulproteusYes, I'm looking for URLs for an example startup.txt; I deleted my old in in favor of your cabs.
19:30.03goxboxlivehold on
19:33.42cr2goxboxlive: do you have an image with .23+ kernel ?
19:35.42ymerejtgoxboxlive, I have the same bug here
19:37.06ymerejtgoxboxlive, I think I could solve it with your htcuniversalcallprovider class
19:37.17ymerejtThat it is not in SVN at this time ;)
19:37.30ymerejtgoxboxlive, but I have to improve it
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19:48.10paulproteusgoxboxlive, I have a suitable startup.txt but now I need a haret.
19:48.40goxboxlive:-)
19:49.52goxboxliveseems like hh.org is down
19:50.01paulproteusYes....
19:51.32goxboxlivetake one from gnulix.biz
19:51.52ymerejtgoxboxlive, I would like to work on the missed calls bug but I need someone to call me ;)
19:51.59goxboxlivepaulproteus: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.0.exe
19:52.09goxboxliveymerejt: :-)
19:52.16paulproteusHey, it's up again (-:
19:52.37paulproteusWait, maybe not? /me is confused
19:52.54ymerejtgoxboxlive, this bug should be solved easily I think but at this time I can't work on it so I will work on it later
19:53.10goxboxliveymerejt: sounds good
19:53.21paulproteushttp://thera.be/my_public/my_projects/HX2790/haret-0.5.0.exe
19:53.29goxboxliveymerejt: the ficphone doesnt have that bug
19:53.53goxboxlivepaulproteus: it is up
19:54.13ymerejtgoxboxlive, but we have very strange GSM chip actualy on universal ;)
19:54.20goxboxliveymerejt: ok
19:54.32goxboxliveymerejt: what about the network operator?
19:54.47ymerejtOur chip does not support COPN command
19:54.53goxboxliveok
19:55.00ymerejtSo WM take operator name from the SIM card
19:55.04goxboxliveThen we need to hardcode it?
19:55.05ymerejt;)
19:55.27goxboxliveymerejt: cant we do the same?
19:55.54ymerejtWe could do the same thing but if you go outside your country you will always see your country operator name ... ;)
19:56.12goxboxliveit doesnt matter
19:56.21goxboxliveThats better than seeing a "0"
19:56.24ymerejtIt's better ...
19:56.26paulproteusPlease set start of ram (RAMADDR) says haret
19:56.48goxboxlivepaulproteus: for third toime http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/
19:56.58paulproteusSorry!
19:57.10goxboxlive:-O
19:57.12goxboxlive)
19:57.43diogene31bye
19:57.51goxboxlivebye
19:58.32goxboxliveymerejt: the bug of reporting twice. In wich file do you think the bug is?
19:58.56goxboxlivepaulproteus: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071216.exe
19:59.05ymerejtI think we could fix it properly in your code
20:00.20ymerejtBut you could tried to raise the INCOMING_MISSED_TIMEOUT constant in qmodemcallprovider.cpp
20:00.50ymerejtgoxboxlive, look at the two lines above
20:01.13goxboxliveok, so it's not in the device folder. It's in the qtopia source.
20:01.13ymerejtgoxboxlive, if you do the test tell me know ...
20:01.40ymerejtgoxboxlive, for a quick fix, yes
20:03.05paulproteusgoxboxlive, Booting, thanks.
20:03.18goxboxliveymerejt: ok, so i should double that timeout then
20:03.37ymerejtset a huge value like 100000
20:03.38ymerejt;)
20:03.46ymerejtand see if it works
20:05.55paulproteusOops, forgot to put in my SIM card, now I have the lock screen. (-:
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20:10.02goxboxliveymerejt: i will test that. But i was stupid enough to start a new build to test if helix was working again, so i have to wait for about an hour to test. But i added the change :-)
20:10.13goxboxliveLets see, are there other things we could do mean while?
20:11.05ymerejtgoxboxlive, I have to tests my changes ...
20:11.25goxboxliveok
20:11.32goxboxlivewhat changes ?
20:11.48goxboxliveHave you done any other thigs to the kernel source?
20:11.54ymerejtnop
20:12.10ymerejtgoxboxlive, only change in qtopia device
20:12.18goxboxlivebut that was good changes :-)
20:12.55ymerejtgoxboxlive, all concentrate on the GSM part. I want it to work very well !
20:13.26paulproteusgoxboxlive, Qtopia tells me "No network" even though the SIM works fine in Windows.
20:18.53ymerejtpaulproteus, maybe the same problem like me ...
20:19.07ymerejtpauproteus, try to enable AtChat logging and restart
20:19.48paulproteusNone of the buttons are responsive for me
20:19.59paulproteusMaybe I should mount the ext2 filesystem somewhere else and change some file?
20:20.09ymerejtpaulproteus, like me when I disable the AtChat logging
20:20.09paulproteus(The on-screen buttons, I mean, aren't responsive.)
20:22.48ymerejtpaulproteus, do you have WM6 ?
20:22.58paulproteusymerejt, I think so - I'm not sure.
20:23.11paulproteusI bought this phone used.
20:23.40paulproteusDo you know how to check?
20:23.47ymerejtdo you have an "external HDD" application on it ?
20:24.05paulproteusOne sec, let me reboot to Windows....
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20:26.10paulproteusymerejt, No, it's not in the "Programs" list.
20:34.23ymerejtpauproteus, Maybe you should find a release number somewhere in the settings menu ...
20:35.11goxboxlivewell i'm back (crying child :-))
20:35.48goxboxlivepaulproteus: held the power button.
20:35.59goxboxlivefor a few sex
20:36.01goxboxlivesorry
20:36.03goxboxlivesec
20:36.05goxboxlive:-)
20:36.51paulproteusymerejt, Yes, Windows Mobile 6
20:37.10ymerejtpaulproteus, so you have the same problem like me
20:37.30ymerejtpaulproteus, I think it's relative to the battery status ...
20:37.56paulproteusCan I create some file on the ext3 that tells Qtopia to enable the logging?
20:38.05paulproteusThen maybe I can load Qtopia properly.
20:39.10goxboxlivei also use wm6
20:39.15goxboxlivewich radio do you use?
20:39.34paulproteusgoxboxlive, Uh, I have no idea?
20:39.40goxboxliveok
20:40.01goxboxlive1.15 is my radio version
20:40.47paulproteusWindows Mobile (R) 6 Professional
20:41.05paulproteusCE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0)
20:41.31paulproteusHow can I find out the radio version?
20:41.34paulproteusThat's from Settings->About.
20:41.41paulproteus(Which BTW thanks ymerejt for the pointer there!)
20:43.12ymerejtpaulproteus, the radio release number is printed on the Qtek Splash screen ...
20:43.19paulproteusOh, right, thanks ymerejt.
20:43.47paulproteusR 1.15.00
20:44.29goxboxliveok
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20:47.41dcordeshi
20:48.02paulproteusWindows does properly detect + use the modem, confirmed by dialing out.
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20:49.20dcordescr2, did you hear anything from harald yet? He's making such mystery otu of kaiser
20:49.44ymerejtpaulproteus, I think it's relative to the battery monitor which is not working on Linux loaded from WM6 ...
20:49.45goxboxlivei added 1,5GB ram to my buildmachine today. It seems like it builds a little faster .
20:50.03paulproteus(-:, goxboxlive
20:50.17paulproteusymerejt, Well, I do also have a low battery.
20:51.08paulproteusDo I have to let it charge?  That's so boring. (-;
20:51.19ymerejtpaulproteus, and qtopia show a full charged battery isn't ?
20:51.39paulproteusymerejt, Qtopia showed an empty battery icon.
20:52.17ymerejtso let it charge and let me know if  qtopia see the battery charge rising
20:52.26paulproteusOkay.
20:53.18paulproteusIs there a way to enable AT chat debugging on the filesystem so I don't have to fight the configuration settings?
21:01.34paulproteusPsst, there must be, just tell me what it is. (-;
21:01.55ymerejtpaulproteus, I almost sure you have the same bug than me because when the bug happens on my phone, my battery status shown by qtopia is empty like you
21:02.30paulproteusAlso how do you examine your battery status in Windows...?
21:03.11ymerejtpush the little battery button on the today screen
21:03.42paulproteus*Oh*, I didn't recognize it as a battery.  Oops....
21:03.55paulproteusOkay, it's now 76%.
21:05.17goxboxliveymerejt: do you know why universal resume when hitting the touchscreen? Is there a easy way to disable it?
21:05.57paulproteusHow do you put it to sleep?  When mine is in the weird Qtopia state where no buttons work, pressing power doesn't put it to suspend.
21:06.14goxboxlivepaulproteus: thats normal
21:06.24ymerejtnot easy but it's possible
21:06.32paulproteusThen how do you put it to sleep at all?
21:06.40paulproteusSince presumably suspend will be necessary for adequate battery life.
21:06.48goxboxlivepaulproteus: suspends automaticly. In Qtopia 4.2.x it suspended with helding the power button. But now it is removed
21:06.56ymerejtpaulproteus, please active the AtChat logging to temporary solve your problems !
21:07.03paulproteusymerejt, Yes - how? (-:
21:07.18goxboxliveyoucould just set suspend time in Qtopia power options
21:08.52paulproteusBut I can't get into Qtopia.  I could try again, I suppose - but can't I just edit some config file in my Qtopia config directory and avoid the possibility of it not loading properly again?
21:09.17goxboxlivepaulproteus: edit your sd card
21:09.30goxboxlivepaulproteus: rename qpe.sh to somehing else.
21:09.48goxboxliveedit Log.conf and set AT chat, muc and modem to "1"
21:10.03goxboxliveput the sd card back to universal and boot
21:10.14paulproteusWhy rename qpe.sh?
21:10.20goxboxliveIt will boot and end up in the shell because of missing qpe.sh
21:10.31goxboxlivethen ssh to your universal from your computer
21:10.34paulproteusOh, I can just do the editing on my laptop.
21:10.48goxboxlivethe start qtopia manually and look at the pc screen
21:11.13goxboxlive/etc/init.d/qpe.sh.bak start & (or whatever you renamed it to)
21:11.19goxboxlivepaulproteus: yes
21:13.00goxboxliveymerejt: you have fixed one more bug :-) (i guess you didnt knew this)
21:13.11paulproteusgoxboxlive, I can't find Muc in the Log.conf.
21:13.13goxboxliveWhen we unloaded the htcuniversal_acx the system frooze
21:13.16goxboxlivemux
21:13.24goxboxlivenow it doesnt :-)
21:13.24paulproteusAh (-:
21:14.59paulproteusgoxboxlive, I've edited ./opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Log.conf from my laptop on the SD card; should I still rename qpe.sh?
21:15.08paulproteusI think the answer is no, but I thought I'd ask you to be sure.
21:15.31paulproteusAlso what editor do you use - the Universal keyboard doesn't seem to have Ctrl or Esc, which means no nano (needs ctrl) and no vi (needs Esc)?
21:15.38goxboxlivepaulproteus: yes
21:15.57goxboxlivepaulproteus: i use nano
21:16.06goxboxlivectrl = mail button
21:16.10paulproteuslol!
21:16.25goxboxliveesc = green phone button where esc normaly are
21:16.34paulproteusrofl, this is hilarious.
21:16.42goxboxlivealt = internet expl button
21:17.30goxboxlivepaulproteus: rename qpe.sh to inexample qpe.sh.bak
21:17.47paulproteusNow boot from the SD?
21:18.47goxboxliveok let me know when you are at login
21:19.03paulproteusthere now
21:19.13goxboxliveok login , no passwd as root
21:19.16paulproteusdone
21:19.26goxboxlivessh from your computer
21:19.44goxboxlive192.168.0.202
21:19.48paulproteusOh, I have to set an IP address for my computer.
21:20.00paulproteus192.168.0.201 is okay?
21:20.03goxboxlive192.168.0.200 should usb0 be on your comuter
21:20.08goxboxliveno
21:20.08paulproteusOkay
21:20.09goxboxlive200
21:20.21paulproteusBTW that's the same as my home LAN, so I may go offline for a bit...
21:21.11BabelOpaulproteus: no need to go offline
21:21.21BabelOpaulproteus: still here ?
21:21.29paulproteusroute add -host 192.168.0.202 dev usb0
21:21.29paulproteusYes
21:21.33paulproteusI'm fine. (-:
21:21.34paulproteusGot both.
21:21.37BabelOok ;)
21:21.37goxboxlivegood
21:21.43goxboxlivessh 192.168.0.202
21:22.11paulproteusOkay, I'm in as root.
21:22.18goxboxlivegood
21:22.24paulproteusOkay, *here* run qpe.sh start (-:
21:22.30goxboxlivewhat did you rename qpe.sh to?
21:22.38goxboxliveno
21:22.56paulproteus/etc/init.d/qpe.sh.bak
21:23.05goxboxliveok ,then from your computer
21:23.17goxboxlivethen do: /etc/init.d/qpe.sh.bak start &
21:23.24paulproteus(yes, that's what I meant above)
21:23.46goxboxlivepastebin the output when it seemsto hang ( 1 minute or so)
21:24.05paulproteusHeh, okay!
21:24.12goxboxliveallright :-)
21:24.52goxboxliveBabelO: have you seen ymerejt has cleaned up the device folder and split the files?
21:24.54paulproteusBTW, is there any way to rotate the screen?
21:25.06goxboxliveBabelO: do you think you could use some of it for BA?
21:25.14paulproteus"No network"
21:25.16goxboxlivepaulproteus: forget about it
21:25.19paulproteus(In Qtopia)
21:25.31goxboxliveok, pastebin the output from ssh
21:25.40goxboxlivepastebin.ca or something
21:25.44goxboxlivenot here
21:25.55paulproteusYes! I know about pastebins. (-:
21:26.02paulproteushttp://pastebin.com/m7bae6362
21:26.04goxboxlivepaulproteus: good
21:26.06BabelOgoxboxlive: maybe, but i try to get 2.6.23 working on ba before
21:26.14goxboxliveBabelO: sure
21:26.15paulproteusgoxboxlive, Forget about what, screen rotation?
21:26.20paulproteusOr forget about "no network"?
21:26.29goxboxliveyes, now. 270 degres sucks in Qtopia
21:27.24goxboxlivepaulproteus: ok, i c, it's the mux that doesnt answer. I have the same sometimes
21:27.42paulproteusModem :  Multiplexing has been disabled.
21:28.10paulproteusIs that related to "No such signal" on simInserted() and simRemoved() ?
21:28.28goxboxliveyes i c
21:28.32ymerejtpaulproteus, look like my bug ... ;)
21:28.46paulproteusymerejt, Well, okay, then squash it (-;
21:28.55ymerejtI'm working on it !
21:28.56goxboxliveymerejt: i also have that bug, but never on first boot. But when i restart Qtopia sometimes
21:29.02paulproteusymerejt, Okay ! (-:
21:29.10ymerejtgoxboxlive, I'm working on it too ;)
21:29.12paulproteusBTW I can code, too, do let me know if I can help.
21:29.20goxboxliveok my new image isdone, now with cruxus. Let see if it rings
21:29.40ymerejtpaulproteus, find a way to rotate the screen under qtopia ...
21:29.51paulproteusymerejt, Hmm, okay....
21:29.52ymerejtpaulproteus, add a console software ..
21:30.35ymerejtpaulproteus, cook me something to eat, I'm very hungry !
21:30.38ymerejt;)
21:32.27paulproteus(-:
21:34.21goxboxlivepaulproteus: have you never tried out Qtopia?
21:34.27goxboxliveallways locked?
21:34.31paulproteusgoxboxlive, Exactly.
21:34.34paulproteusOn this phone, at least.
21:34.41goxboxlivedo you want to test it?
21:34.41paulproteusOn my ficphone gta01 it works okay.
21:34.56goxboxlivepaulproteus: ok, so you also have a gta01
21:34.56paulproteusYes, I would want to test it...
21:35.01goxboxliveand a magician?
21:35.29paulproteusI'm sending the gta01 to a friend since he might fix http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/One_transistor_too_many on it.
21:37.12goxboxlivepaulproteus: do i also have the transistor too many?
21:37.20goxboxliveis it on all the gta01?
21:37.22paulproteusgoxboxlive, No, you paid for yours so it's fixed.
21:37.41paulproteusMine (and ph5's iirc) have the problem - it was fixed before mass production.
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21:39.21goxboxliveymerejt: increasing the incomming fixed the double ring stuff.
21:39.43ymerejtgoxboxlive, so that's it ...
21:39.46paulproteusgoxboxlive, But also, if you don't pick up now, does Qtopia log a missed call?
21:41.07goxboxlivewell, when i disbale the call from my other phone, universal still rings :-)
21:41.49ymerejtgoxboxlive, unfortunately it's normal but don't worry  I know how to fix it
21:42.03goxboxlivewe have to figure out a fitting time. I guess twice as the thats is todat\y is ok
21:42.08goxboxliveymerejt: sounds good
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21:43.56ymerejtgoxboxlive, could you dump gpio on your universal when all the radio stuff are off ?
21:45.02goxboxliveymerejt: i have no idea how to do that
21:45.12goxboxliveI think it exist in xda-developers
21:45.19ymerejtgoxboxlive, could you print your /proc/apm ?
21:46.37goxboxliveymerejt: of course
21:47.47goxboxliveroot@htcuniversal:~$ cat /proc/apm
21:47.47goxboxlive1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x03 0x03 95% -27 min
21:48.30ymerejtgoxboxlive, perfect thanks you
21:48.33paulproteus1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x03 0x03 85% -295 min
21:48.38paulproteusMine is practically the same.
21:49.40goxboxlivewhat does it mean?
21:50.20goxboxliveNow, mine failes too :-)
21:50.33ymerejtit means that paulproteus don't have the bug like me ...
21:50.48paulproteusUh-oh...
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21:51.45Pryanhi all
21:51.51paulproteusHi Pryan.
21:52.12ymerejtgoxboxlive, about the battery bug I need to study with haret ...
21:52.38goxboxliveok
21:52.48ymerejtI think my WM6 disable the battery monitoring to save power ;)
21:53.05paulproteuslol, ymerejt
21:53.31goxboxliveymerejt: there is another thing. When i compile with mediaengine and mp3 works, the dialer doesnt ring anymore. Just vibration
21:54.10Pryani think there is for my architecture that doesnt work the emulators
21:54.24ymerejtgoxboxlive, See the good side : now we have an vibrate Ipod ;)
21:54.36Pryanestoi hasta los webos ( i dont know translate this )
21:54.42goxboxlive:-)
21:54.51cr2ymerejt: configure the wakeup timer, but it may be difficult to do. look at the hx4700
21:55.32ymerejtcr2, to do what ?
21:55.34goxboxlivecr2: you should unlock your uni now. It useable as daily phone now
21:55.45cr2goxboxlive: so what is the linux power consumption with LCD/bt/wifi/phone off ?
21:56.25goxboxlivecr2: i dont know. I left it for one day, and the battery dropped to 86%, then i started to ssh again. So i guess it's like wince now
21:56.30cr2ymerejt: the RTC wakeup will check the battery state, and either charge, or suspend again.
21:56.55cr2ymerejt: but there is some murky gpiob15 (?) which is onvolved into this process.
21:57.07goxboxlivecr2:  and also, the power leak also fixed the htcuniversal_acx modules. So the system doesnt freeze when unloading the module
21:57.41cr2goxboxlive: ok, so it was a buggy acx100 driver ;)
21:57.42goxboxlivecr2: could you atert look at the mdoc3 so we can have it running from flash?
21:58.02goxboxlives/atert/start/
21:58.52cr2goxboxlive: the wince IPL is not using the 32bit read like this driver at the last stage...
21:59.04cr2goxboxlive: i need to check what BA is doing there.
21:59.12goxboxliveok
21:59.22cr2BabelO: can you trace the mdoc-g3 ?
21:59.36Pryancr2 athena works with synce ? not, true ?
21:59.56cr2Pryan: no. synce does not like wince5
22:00.11Pryanbrb, ok
22:00.25dba358cr2: is synce supposed to work with WM6 on my TyTN?
22:00.44BabelOcr2: how ? i still try to find why 2.6.23 don't want to boot with mmc built in
22:00.46Pryanwith WM6 it still doesnt work
22:01.25Pryanbut it's because the ipaq module, it dont recognice the device
22:01.49Pryanso it cannot create /dev/ttyUSB0
22:01.57dba358what does the ipaq module have to do with the TyTN?
22:02.09Pryaninto the host machine
22:02.14Pryanyou load it
22:02.21cr2BabelO: in wince with haret
22:02.48cr2dba358: you have wm6 on hermes ?
22:02.53dba358sure
22:03.10cr2ipaq.ko is the serial-over-USB module
22:03.20Pryansure
22:03.27dba358ahhh, I love dodgy module names :)
22:03.42Pryanhehhee
22:03.58dba358is there a patch for that?
22:04.03dba358or is it a simple fix?
22:04.28cr2i think yes, but you need to patch the source.
22:04.33Pryani hope they add support on future kernels
22:04.36cr2look at the synce site.
22:04.37dba358understood
22:04.39dba358yeah
22:04.51dba358I'll take my notebook with me over the xmas period
22:04.59BabelOcr2: do you remember what was the old initrd password ?
22:05.04dba358and I think I'll have quite some time to fiddle around with all this stuff
22:05.09cr2goxboxlive: does gps work out of the box now on a780 ?
22:05.15dba358My aim is to boot a selfcompiled kernel on the tytn
22:05.28goxboxlivecr2: original or with openezx?
22:05.29cr2BabelO: rootme ?
22:05.37cr2goxboxlive: openezx
22:05.43goxboxlivei dont know
22:05.57BabelOcr2: was thinking same , but it does not work
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22:07.36cr2BabelO: kevin's initrd ?
22:07.49cr2rootme was on familiar
22:08.41BabelOcr2: this old one http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaLinuxBootingViaRootNFS
22:10.44cr2BabelO: hehe. mount and check ?
22:12.02goxboxliveymerejt: / paulproteus hmm i have exactly the same as you know, the battery indicator isent there when the atv01 doesnt get and answer
22:12.46paulproteusatv01 ?
22:12.51ymerejtgoxboxlive, but you /proc/apm is always ok isn't it ?
22:12.57Pryanreboot
22:13.12goxboxliveroot@htcuniversal:~$ cat /proc/apm
22:13.13goxboxlive1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x03 0x03 98% -19 min
22:13.13goxboxliveroot@htcuniversal:~$
22:14.56paulproteus1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x03 0x03 86% -260 min <-- mine, in case that's any help
22:22.02goxboxliveis there a way can i use 'scp' to transfer a whole folder?
22:22.15ymerejtgoxboxlive scp -r
22:22.57goxboxliveof course, thx
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22:23.48goxboxlivehmm now my modem only work once, and then on restart qtopia it hangs like yours
22:36.49goxboxlivehmm now i also copied libsysinfo.so over after edited some source. And now i have phone network everytime i restart qtopia
23:01.42ymerejtgoxboxlive, I know what's wrong for me with the battery monitoring
23:01.51ymerejtIt's the battery itself !
23:02.05ymerejtwith the native battery I don't have any problem
23:02.31BabelOymerejt: ds2760 is in battery itself ;)
23:02.42ymerejtthat's it
23:02.50BabelOymerejt: you buy a taiwan battery ?
23:03.05ymerejton aboutbattery.com
23:03.14ymerejtYES ;)
23:03.15goxboxliveymerejt: so the modem and everything works just fine then=?
23:03.18ymerejtH.K on the battery
23:03.25goxboxlive:-)
23:03.38goxboxlivei have an original batt i think.
23:03.50ymerejtBabelO, but windows can monitor the battery
23:04.02BabelOymerejt: monitoring works, so maybe it is a pin to pin compatible ds27xx
23:04.10goxboxliveymerejt: i asked you earlier.Is there a way to prevent universal from waking up when i touch the TS?
23:04.40ymerejtgoxboxlive, yes but I have to work on it (kernel land)
23:05.03ymerejtBabelO, so maybe cr2 was right it's probably only a name device problem
23:05.03goxboxliveok, so it's not just to comment something out then
23:05.10BabelOymerejt: if you can look with haret at the w1 bus, you can see periodic read, last time pH5 was able to identify chipset type from these specific hexa data
23:08.00ymerejtwhat is the observe w1 bus read operation ?
23:08.42ymerejtBabelO And maybe with my linux kernel I should get the device information name isn't ?
23:09.36BabelOymerejt: http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/an_pk/145
23:09.43BabelOymerejt: this is an example
23:10.23goxboxlivei am gonna do a little test now. I am gonna charge my battery 100% in wince and the run uni as a main phone to see how long it last.
23:10.46BabelOymerejt: if you look at this code you have the sequence to look for
23:18.37BabelOymerejt: did you found th ds1wm adress ?
23:25.01ymerejtI have added a printk in ds1wm.c
23:25.11ymerejtBabelO, I have added a printk in ds1wm.c
23:25.26ymerejtwith the good battery rom_id = 0x5400001163B07230
23:25.37ymerejtand with HK : rom_id = 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
23:25.43ymerejt;)
23:25.50BabelOymerejt: ok :) good id
23:26.19ymerejtBabelO maybe I should make a hack in my kernel  ...
23:26.51BabelOymerejt: how ?
23:27.01ymerejtBabelO, but I don't know how bind this id to the good driver
23:31.30BabelOymerejt: i am looking at ds2760 driver, but not sure i understand how it works
23:31.37BabelOymerejt: it use idr.h
23:33.04BabelOymerejt: ok i understand now ;)
23:33.18BabelOdrivers/w1/w1_family.h
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23:33.43BabelOymerejt: you see #define W1_FAMILY_DS2760        0x30
23:34.21BabelOymerejt: 30 is the id i have , maybe you can set it to 50
23:34.27BabelOoups 54
23:34.45ymerejtbut why to 54
23:34.58BabelObattery rom_id = 0x5400001163B07230
23:35.10ymerejtbut that the good one
23:35.10ymerejt;)
23:36.17BabelOwhen ds2760 is identified i got an ID in dmesg and it start with 30 i think
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23:38.35ymerejtBabelO
23:38.41ymerejtit seems to work
23:38.57BabelOwhat have you done ?
23:39.05ymerejtI have dynamicly replaced the bad rom_id by the good one
23:39.11BabelOlol
23:39.38BabelOymerejt: so it is another kind of ds2760 from hong kong ;)
23:40.46ymerejtI'm not sure my hack works so well ...
23:41.06ymerejtBabelO ;(
23:41.42BabelOymerejt: why not well ?
23:42.14BabelOymerejt: can you dump the family instead ? w1_family.c
23:42.57BabelOymerejt: function is in coment ;) #if 0
23:43.57BabelOno it is an old kernel i have
23:44.18ymerejtand what should do this function replacement ?
23:45.57BabelOymerejt: nothing just prink of idea seen on w1 bus
23:46.16BabelOymerejt: but i think you can get same result using some cat in sysfs
23:46.38ymerejtBabelO, and what sys entry ?
23:47.04BabelOymerejt: /sys/bus/w1
23:48.28ymerejtBabelO, my seems to work
23:48.38ymerejtnot perfectly but works ...
23:49.07BabelOit is strange your id is just 0xffffffff
23:49.29BabelOymerejt: you can force bus scan
23:49.48BabelOor maybe it is another clock speed, don't know
23:50.12ymerejtyes I don't understand too ...
23:51.26goxboxlivewell it's getting late. Good night.
23:52.51ymerejtthe rom_id is dumped at ds1wm.c:318
23:52.56ymerejtBabelO, the rom_id is dumped at ds1wm.c:318
23:56.44BabelOymerejt: did you look at the reference page memtioned in this function ?
23:58.06ymerejtBabelO, no. Have you something interresting ?
23:58.28BabelOhttp://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/120
23:59.27cr2BabelO: have you fixed the w1 clock generation on BA ?

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