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| 00:06.12 | dcordes | cr2, oh. Can I scan the serial channel? |
| 00:18.41 | dcordes | cr2, gnite |
| 00:23.51 | diogene31 | Kevin2, I ran: addlist mmutrace p2v(0x40100000) 32 |
| 00:24.20 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Can you try addlist mmutrace p2v(0x40100000) 1024*1024 |
| 00:25.43 | diogene31 | Kevin2, Did it. Output similar, no trace so far. |
| 00:27.49 | diogene31 | Kevin2, Sorry, I have to go to now. Hope you'll be here tomorrow. |
| 00:27.54 | Kevin2 | okay. |
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| 00:57.16 | Kevin2 | Okay - I have keyboard driver mostly working. |
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| 01:22.59 | Kevin2 | bbl |
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| 02:12.20 | Dreadddddd | msm6250 users |
| 02:12.28 | Dreadddddd | help please http://forum.modopo.com/diskussionen-rund-ums-modding/t-19197-ef81-qc-bqs-firmware-analyzer/page8.html |
| 02:14.39 | paulproteus | Dreadddddd, ? |
| 02:14.47 | paulproteus | Oh, I'm not an msm6250 user. |
| 02:14.52 | Dreadddddd | just read |
| 02:16.12 | paulproteus | Uh, okay. |
| 02:17.08 | Dreadddddd | paulproteus from 1 pageg please |
| 02:20.07 | paulproteus | What is this for, disassembling BREW firmware? |
| 02:20.19 | paulproteus | It's very hard to understand. |
| 02:20.21 | Dreadddddd | yes |
| 02:20.33 | Dreadddddd | need help -) |
| 02:20.53 | paulproteus | What does BREW firmware have to do with HTC phones? |
| 02:21.08 | paulproteus | HTC doesn't make BREW devices, right? I thought only Motorola did. |
| 02:21.36 | Dreadddddd | i know some HTC use MSM6250 as application processer |
| 02:21.38 | Dreadddddd | yes? |
| 02:22.06 | Dreadddddd | but work with WINCE or WM06 |
| 02:22.59 | paulproteus | I see, interesting. |
| 02:23.15 | paulproteus | Dreadddddd, You should email the mailing list or ask more experienced people like cr2. |
| 02:23.21 | paulproteus | I unfortunately am still very new here. |
| 02:23.27 | Dreadddddd | we wont know all about OTP flash and NAND... for best understanding how to run on our device diferent OS |
| 02:23.47 | Dreadddddd | ok |
| 02:23.56 | Dreadddddd | I think cr2 hate me -) |
| 02:24.37 | paulproteus | Aww |
| 02:30.13 | Dreadddddd | http://www.siemensmania.cz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23431&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105&sid=5caba75283bceb7114032e2fe834ba21 |
| 02:30.32 | Dreadddddd | why i dont know cz ? -( |
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| 05:28.43 | goxboxlive | good morning |
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| 05:58.01 | paulproteus | "Morning", goxboxlive. |
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| 06:34.48 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, I see you're not on #linuxtogo. |
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| 07:40.58 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: no i'm not at #linuxtogo. |
| 07:43.36 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: I think we might have some progress with universal now. Now we have the suspend/resume code working for the modem. And if we just manage to workout the power draining i think we will have very nice device running Linux. |
| 07:43.46 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, It seems so! |
| 07:44.01 | paulproteus | This new French guy is great. |
| 07:44.08 | goxboxlive | I am just hoping cr2 will take the dirty work to have also the cam working since we allready have a application for it. |
| 07:44.08 | paulproteus | (At least I think he's French.) |
| 07:44.18 | goxboxlive | yes he is french. |
| 07:45.01 | goxboxlive | It's great that cr2 gets some help. He has a lot of other things to do, so the help from the french guy is really appriciated |
| 07:45.21 | paulproteus | I should really help more, I just find myself so busy with everything else. |
| 07:45.23 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: what do you do for living? |
| 07:45.36 | paulproteus | Coding. |
| 07:46.13 | goxboxlive | well i'm stucked here.- I once started it, and i t thought it where kind of fun for some years ago, and it still is. |
| 07:46.26 | paulproteus | I don't quite understand. |
| 07:46.30 | paulproteus | You mean programming? |
| 07:46.31 | goxboxlive | s/started/jopined/ |
| 07:46.42 | paulproteus | lol, your typo fix has a new typo. |
| 07:46.46 | sadeness | ^_^ |
| 07:46.50 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 07:46.53 | sadeness | jopined :D |
| 07:46.54 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, got it, you mean HTC-Linux etc. |
| 07:47.16 | paulproteus | Yeah, I used to spend a lot of time in #xbox-linux and helped out there a fair bit around 2002-2004. |
| 07:47.41 | paulproteus | Then things died down in that world, and then I have had my own side projects like freeculture.org to work on, but these devices and Linux seem like a good match. |
| 07:47.49 | paulproteus | Especially with Qtopia and OpenMoko working somewhat well. |
| 07:47.53 | paulproteus | + being funded |
| 07:47.58 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: realy :-) I still use xbox(1). It' a great mediacenter, only lacks PVR |
| 07:48.14 | paulproteus | Hah, right, with your nick and everything. |
| 07:48.16 | paulproteus | You use XBMC? |
| 07:48.21 | paulproteus | Or some Linux-based thing? |
| 07:48.22 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 07:48.44 | paulproteus | It was frustrating seeing the Windows developers get all the mindshare in the Xbox homebrew scene. |
| 07:48.53 | goxboxlive | even my wife thinks it's usefull. |
| 07:48.59 | paulproteus | lol! |
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| 08:50.52 | _law_ | does anyone know whats faster: openmoko or gpe-phone? |
| 09:12.53 | goxboxlive | _law_: i think it's quite equal since both use the same base. |
| 09:13.10 | goxboxlive | BabelO: bon jour |
| 09:13.14 | jeanseb_ | _law_: on some model like blue angel GPE image are old |
| 09:13.30 | goxboxlive | monsuer (or however it spels). |
| 09:13.44 | jeanseb_ | monsieur |
| 09:13.45 | _law_ | jeanseb, i am thinking of building a new images |
| 09:14.06 | jeanseb_ | ok so do i lol |
| 09:15.07 | _law_ | for the tornado, i have already done it a few month ago. but gpephone feels slow on this device. |
| 09:15.22 | _law_ | so i thought perhaps openmoko is faster... |
| 09:15.46 | jeanseb_ | _law_: depends on why it is slow ... |
| 09:16.01 | jeanseb_ | gpe is gnome based may be memory problem |
| 09:16.40 | jeanseb_ | if so a non kde or gnome base enviroment should be faster |
| 09:17.46 | _law_ | jeanseb, openmoko also uses gtk |
| 09:19.51 | goxboxlive | jeanseb_ You should test a Qtopia image. It's quite fast, and it have a phone app included too. |
| 09:20.39 | goxboxlive | To do so, just get one of my images for htcuniversal, and copy the opt folder to your rootfs. Also copy /etc/ini.d/qpe.sh and edit it so it fits your envirement. |
| 09:21.14 | goxboxlive | Remember to have libstdc++ in your /usr/lib folder Qtopia depends on it |
| 09:21.31 | goxboxlive | It's also included in my rootfs |
| 09:22.29 | goxboxlive | To test the image without phone support take a look at qpe.sh and edit it. Because if the phone doesnt work, the gui will go in lock position. |
| 09:27.09 | BabelO | morgn goxboxlive :) |
| 09:27.36 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 09:28.44 | BabelO | goxboxlive: so i see universal wakeup now ;) |
| 09:29.32 | BabelO | jeanseb did you setup OE for Blueangel ? |
| 09:30.36 | BabelO | goxboxlive: what is the correct word for bonjour ? god dag / hei / morgn |
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| 09:32.55 | BabelO | hello kiozen |
| 09:33.02 | kiozen | morning :) |
| 09:44.45 | jeanseb_ | goxboxlive: qt banned for me :D |
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| 10:13.04 | goxboxlive | BabelO: good morning = God morgen (not morgn, just my typo :-)) Good day = God dag and good evening = God kveld :-) |
| 10:13.30 | goxboxlive | jeanseb_: Why? |
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| 10:29.55 | jeanseb_ | goxboxlive: i'm gnome fan and hate kde so gpe for me |
| 10:32.44 | goxboxlive | jeanseb_: i c :-) |
| 10:33.54 | frankie | goxboxlive: qtopia is slow lik death on the greenphone, i doubt it works better on htc |
| 10:35.12 | goxboxlive | frankie: i am using both Qtopia and Openmoko. Qtopia is twice as fast on htc devices. Even on my Motorola A780 Qtopia runs very well. So i find that strange that Qtopia is that slow on the GP |
| 10:35.35 | frankie | goxboxlive: dunno why, but for probably some kernel issue |
| 10:35.47 | BabelO | frankie: yes it is 2.4 kernel |
| 10:35.49 | goxboxlive | frankie: yes that might be. |
| 10:36.04 | goxboxlive | Is it anoying slow? |
| 10:36.39 | frankie | goxboxlive: not specifically but for instance when in ssh session avg load is constantly ~2.00 |
| 10:36.52 | frankie | goxboxlive: which is quite bad under 2.4 |
| 10:37.44 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 10:38.15 | BabelO | frankie: on htc devices we can play mp3 with very low cpu usage |
| 10:40.11 | frankie | BabelO: it does not depend on the cpu anyway, gp uses pxa270 which is not that bad |
| 10:43.19 | cr2 | hi |
| 10:43.24 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
| 10:43.35 | BabelO | frankie: i know, i ve one |
| 10:43.40 | cr2 | frankie: it tells something about the greenphone quality. |
| 10:43.57 | cr2 | greenphone kernel |
| 10:44.48 | BabelO | cr2: do we have a device with ttfs.o for 2.6 kernel ? |
| 10:45.20 | cr2 | a780 has 48MB ram and pxa270 300MHz |
| 10:45.40 | cr2 | BabelO: no. |
| 10:46.09 | cr2 | the tffs.o on greenphone supports g4, and it's different from tffs.o from a780 |
| 10:47.07 | BabelO | ok :( |
| 10:48.30 | BabelO | cr2: i try to boot BA from git tree, but with out success, it stop just after jum to kernel |
| 10:51.30 | MichouX|NA | BabelO: hey, thx for the qtopia image url |
| 10:52.24 | MichouX|NA | but do you have the blueangel device profile that can help me to build qtopia myself ? |
| 10:54.28 | goxboxlive | cr2: hi still here? |
| 10:54.46 | BabelO | MichouX|NA: i send it to ymer... |
| 10:55.12 | BabelO | MichouX|NA: send me you re email in private and i reply it to you |
| 10:55.35 | BabelO | MichouX|NA: you are all from Toulouse ? |
| 11:07.10 | BabelO | cr2: good news i ve to try spi keyboard on BA once i can boot it ;) |
| 11:07.12 | MichouX|NA | yep ymer..., diogene31, and me are in the same room ;-) |
| 11:07.18 | MichouX|NA | office |
| 11:08.50 | BabelO | MichouX|NA: ok, so ymer have my email about qtopia build with htcphone devices, and to build kernel yourself, just checkout hh kernel and use htcblueangel_static_defconfig |
| 11:09.19 | MichouX|NA | BabelO:yes he forwarded it me |
| 11:11.23 | BabelO | MichouX|NA: plugins multiplexer and phonevendors does not work even for magician they cause a segfault |
| 11:12.15 | BabelO | MichouX|NA: i trace at cmd over qtopia and found reason.. but there are lot of fix to do, and i miss some of |
| 11:14.34 | BabelO | MichouX|NA: if you want to try i ve done and Messenegr applciation for qtopai check http://linuxbox2.free.fr/qtapp |
| 11:15.34 | BabelO | s/and Messenegr applciaton for qtopai/a Messenger application for qtopia/ |
| 11:16.08 | BabelO | s/and Messenegr applciation for qtopai/a Messenger application for qtopia |
| 11:16.10 | BabelO | grhhh |
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| 12:07.57 | MichouX|NA | BabelO: thx I will try your IMlife.... but before I have to receve my blueangel (I bought it on friday on priceminister.com) |
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| 14:01.44 | beefcake_au | anyone know of a linux distro that will boot on linux? |
| 14:02.54 | sadeness | uh? |
| 14:03.57 | imanex | i used openmoko for htc-beetles |
| 14:04.00 | imanex | and it wont boot |
| 14:04.10 | imanex | thinking maybe there just isnt enough ram |
| 14:19.22 | BabelO | lol |
| 14:20.00 | BabelO | imanex: you want linux to boot on linux ? it is not a ram problem, openmoko boot on universal with only 64Mb |
| 14:24.52 | imanex | ah k |
| 14:24.57 | imanex | then i must be wrong |
| 14:25.03 | imanex | maybe the install is corrupt |
| 14:25.31 | imanex | it doesnt freeze or nothin |
| 14:26.57 | imanex | just sits there after saying freeing up init memory 89k or some shit |
| 14:27.04 | imanex | i can type and it shows up |
| 14:27.14 | imanex | otherwise its completely unresponsive |
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| 14:37.13 | dcordes | imanex, boots universal moko image on beeles |
| 14:37.17 | dcordes | beetles |
| 14:38.20 | dcordes | imanex, here clean out your ext2 and extract this http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/OpenMoko/openmoko.linux.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 14:38.23 | dcordes | instead |
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| 15:52.01 | cr2 | BabelO: moko runs on a780, and it has 48MB ram |
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| 15:56.06 | BabelO | cr2: yep , it is for imanex :) so it is not aram issue |
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| 16:17.53 | fluke | hello all! |
| 16:19.47 | fluke | I'm looking for a handheld pda/phone (gsm) that I can run Linux on. I've been waiting for the next hardware revision of the FIC neo1973 for a while and am getting impatient... Can anyone suggest something else? |
| 16:19.55 | fluke | How is the HTC Universal these days? |
| 16:20.13 | fluke | I like the fact that it has a full keyboard, which the neo doesn't.. |
| 16:22.20 | BabelO | fluke: hi, you have magician and Universal which can run linux with GPE/ Openmoko / gpe / Qtopia / opie |
| 16:22.55 | BabelO | depend if you want a running phone module or not, Openmoko / Qtopia can run in phone mode |
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| 16:36.43 | fluke | I'm back.. sorry if I missed any responses to my questions.. machine crashed |
| 16:38.43 | fluke | so.. anyone uses a HTC Universal and can comment on it? Or is there a newer model that is favored now ? |
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| 16:51.54 | cr2 | fluke: universal has the best support. |
| 16:52.21 | cr2 | fluke: but it leaks too much current it its current state. |
| 16:54.31 | Pryan | cr2 hi |
| 16:55.40 | Pryan | in march probably we get help from a company |
| 16:56.43 | fluke | cr2 ok, that's interesting! I was thinking I would run OpenMoko on it.. I'd have to do more research to see how the power mgmt is on the universal |
| 16:57.26 | fluke | maybe I should just wait for the "consumer hardware" version of the neo1973 :-/ but it doesn't have a keyboard... |
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| 17:08.36 | dcordes | hi |
| 17:09.06 | dcordes | cr2, did you find out anything new about kaiser display? |
| 17:20.32 | paulproteus | Mornin' everyone. |
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| 17:33.57 | Pryan | in march probably we get help from a company |
| 17:34.56 | paulproteus | Why, what happens in March? |
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| 17:38.06 | BabelO_ | jeanseb: sorry can reply i m not autentified, i forgot my office computer :) |
| 17:38.09 | Pryan | the contract more people |
| 17:38.25 | Pryan | and are helpfull |
| 17:38.31 | jeanseb | use recover |
| 17:38.42 | jeanseb | BabelO, use service to recover youre nick |
| 17:39.25 | paulproteus | BabelO, /msg nickserv ghost |
| 17:40.26 | jeanseb | paulproteus, he found it |
| 17:40.30 | jeanseb | :D |
| 17:40.42 | paulproteus | jeanseb, Nearly, now he needs to /nick babel0 (-; |
| 17:40.52 | jeanseb | that done |
| 17:41.12 | BabelO | ~lart paulproteus |
| 17:41.12 | apt | blasts paulproteus to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 17:41.21 | paulproteus | Hey! |
| 17:41.22 | BabelO | lol |
| 17:41.47 | BabelO | anyway i need to relog to my office computer to finish something :) |
| 17:45.23 | BabelO | paulproteus: i ve reinstalled my opensuse to 10.3 and same issue with pastebin.ca :)it seem it it a dns issue |
| 17:45.58 | paulproteus | BabelO, The thing is that pastebin.ca has an IPv6 address and an IPV4 address. |
| 17:46.17 | paulproteus | Your browser will usually prefer v6, but if you can't route to v6 then you're stuck. |
| 17:46.48 | paulproteus | In Firefox and Epiphany and other Mozilla-based browsers, you can go to about:config , search for v6, and double-click on "network.dns.disableIPv6" which should work around this. |
| 17:48.41 | BabelO | paulproteus: thx for the tips, works perfect :) |
| 17:49.01 | BabelO | but why i can't route to pastebin ipv6 srv ? |
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| 17:55.14 | BabelO | paulproteus: with nslookup -> set q=any -> 6bone.net and pastebin.ca , i can see ipv6 for 6bone.net but not for pastebin.ca |
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| 18:49.52 | fluke | cr2 thanks for the infos. I'll see if I can easily source a Universal. I'm in Canada, it doesn't seem to be very easy to find here... I may end up waiting a little longer and see if the TyTN gets good support, that one seems easier to find here.. (or get a Neo1973 when the next hardware rev comes out. maybe.) Thanks! |
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| 19:04.34 | Pryan2 | hi all |
| 19:04.43 | Pryan2 | cr2 ping |
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| 19:07.30 | pH5 | Kevin2: ping |
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| 19:07.52 | pH5 | hi BabelO_ |
| 19:08.04 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 19:09.25 | Pryan2 | i dont know if you have read me |
| 19:09.52 | Pryan2 | in march we probably get help of a company |
| 19:10.14 | Pryan2 | its what i want to said to cr2 |
| 19:10.55 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
| 19:11.10 | psokolovsky | pH5: saw hx4700 CF regression reports? |
| 19:11.27 | pH5 | hi psokolovsky! |
| 19:11.43 | pH5 | yes, I believe I just committed a fix |
| 19:11.52 | ymerejt | hi BabelO_ |
| 19:12.00 | BabelO | hi ymerejt |
| 19:12.04 | psokolovsky | pH5: ah, cool, thanks! |
| 19:12.10 | pH5 | (stupid typo, 1 instead of 0 when turning on the 3V3) |
| 19:12.14 | ymerejt | Babel0, I need your help ;) |
| 19:12.24 | BabelO | hi psokolovsky, long time :) |
| 19:12.39 | psokolovsky | ;-) |
| 19:12.55 | ymerejt | BabelO, I got some compilation problem with qtopia |
| 19:13.20 | BabelO | ymerejt: which one ? |
| 19:14.14 | ymerejt | The configure work, and at the build time I have an unexpected error on building qvfb |
| 19:14.24 | ymerejt | But qvfb is disabled by the configure file |
| 19:14.35 | ymerejt | It wants to link it to lXtst |
| 19:14.42 | ymerejt | strange isn't it ? |
| 19:15.15 | pH5 | psokolovsky: do you have any CF cards for testing? |
| 19:15.16 | BabelO | ymerejt: do you use goxboxlive configuration file or mine ? |
| 19:15.28 | ymerejt | I have extracted the arm920t-eabi-ficgta01-toolchain.tgz in /opt |
| 19:15.35 | ymerejt | your configuration file |
| 19:15.42 | psokolovsky | pH5: unfortunately, no, that's why I was pinging you ;-) |
| 19:15.59 | pH5 | hm. I can't find my olde microdrive. |
| 19:16.01 | BabelO | ymerejt: ok |
| 19:16.13 | ymerejt | I have set my PATH=/opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin:$PATH |
| 19:16.15 | BabelO | ymerejt: i use an old snapshot |
| 19:16.30 | BabelO | ymerejt: that's ok |
| 19:16.31 | ymerejt | run ../qtopia*/configure -device htcphone |
| 19:16.38 | ymerejt | and make |
| 19:16.39 | ymerejt | Oh |
| 19:16.45 | ymerejt | And I'm using the last one |
| 19:17.17 | ymerejt | But this link error is pretty strange. Why does it want to link to Xtst ? |
| 19:18.49 | BabelO | don't know ..hmm let me check mine |
| 19:21.29 | ymerejt | which snapshot are you using ? |
| 19:21.44 | Pryan2 | i have compiled qtopia without any problems in gentoo, but couldnt test because i havent /dev/fb0 |
| 19:22.10 | Pryan2 | well. it doesnt let me use dbus |
| 19:22.28 | Pryan2 | ill see why this vacations |
| 19:22.37 | ymerejt | Babel0: which snapshot are you using ? |
| 19:22.41 | BabelO | ymerejt: don't remember, i ll look with ldd my qvfb |
| 19:23.05 | ymerejt | Do you always have the source tar ball ? |
| 19:23.47 | BabelO | ymerejt: no, i remove it i think |
| 19:24.01 | BabelO | ymerejt: i m linked with libXtst.so.6 for qvfb |
| 19:24.22 | ymerejt | it's a i686 binary isn't it ? |
| 19:24.25 | BabelO | ymerejt: what is your distrib ? |
| 19:24.37 | ymerejt | At this time, kubuntu |
| 19:24.51 | BabelO | ymerejt: yep qvfb is to emulate framebuffer and test your app on x86 |
| 19:25.04 | ymerejt | So it should find my local lib |
| 19:25.08 | ymerejt | which is installed |
| 19:25.20 | ymerejt | I don't understand why it doesn't |
| 19:25.32 | BabelO | ymerejt: i have it in /usr/lib |
| 19:25.38 | ymerejt | mee too |
| 19:26.28 | ymerejt | Otherwise, I have a 4.2.4 release which maybe build |
| 19:26.29 | ymerejt | ... |
| 19:27.05 | BabelO | ymerejt: i suppose you have checked -L/usr/lib in command line |
| 19:27.21 | ymerejt | In fact, I have removed my env now |
| 19:27.24 | ymerejt | I will retry |
| 19:28.18 | ymerejt | And I remember having checked this but I was tired ... so maybe with some luck I made a mistake |
| 19:28.24 | BabelO | ymerejt: ok, sometimes i have to do bad hack like linking libXtst.so.6 to libXtst.so wen it is not done and then ldconfig again |
| 19:29.01 | BabelO | pH5: omap850 does not want to boot with my new wm6 :( |
| 19:29.44 | pH5 | BabelO: ugh, back to zero :( |
| 19:29.46 | ymerejt | Just a remark: I have remove the last line of the configuration you give me. I think it's useless at this time but will become useful in a short time (I hope so) |
| 19:32.21 | ymerejt | BabelO, -skip-dqt -skip-qt -skip-qte -skip-qt-configure |
| 19:32.23 | BabelO | ymerejt: you right, this last line is usefull when you don't want to rebuild qt4 |
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| 19:35.24 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, Hi, which qtopia snapshot have you build in the last qtopia image ? |
| 19:36.12 | BabelO | ymerejt: it is this one for me qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20070922 |
| 19:36.46 | ymerejt | Oh, and is it always available somewhere ? |
| 19:38.44 | BabelO | on the broken ftp yes :) |
| 19:38.52 | BabelO | ymerejt: i think you have same problem with it |
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| 19:47.13 | cr2 | hi |
| 19:48.14 | pH5 | hi cr2 |
| 19:48.16 | cr2 | pH5: i've sent the docking station today. the people are sending packages# like crazy :) |
| 19:48.19 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
| 19:48.53 | pH5 | :) |
| 19:51.25 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i guess i have build them all :-) |
| 19:51.41 | goxboxlive | Latest i have build is 14th des. |
| 19:51.55 | paulproteus | Hey ymerejt! |
| 19:52.00 | goxboxlive | But it's not compatible with helix |
| 19:52.01 | ymerejt | Hey |
| 19:52.16 | ymerejt | Not a problem |
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| 19:52.33 | paulproteus | BTW the Qtopia snapshots are back up. |
| 19:52.36 | ymerejt | I just need to work the AT communication |
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| 19:53.10 | goxboxlive | So either use cruxus (you will loose system sound, phone alert, sms alert and so) or build without mediaengine. Without mediaengine you will have system sound and so working, but not mp3 |
| 19:53.28 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, If I send you a very little kernel patch could do a suspend time life test ? |
| 19:53.52 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: of cuorse |
| 19:54.09 | paulproteus | My universal's at home and I'm at work anyway. |
| 19:54.21 | ymerejt | eheh |
| 19:55.33 | _ivans_ | hi folks! i'm a long time linux user, and i have an HTC Hermes in my desk drawer |
| 19:56.02 | _ivans_ | i'm also a C/C++ programmer, and experienced with i386 assembler. which doesn't really mean foo on an Hermes, but still... |
| 19:56.56 | _ivans_ | is there any way that i could help? i'm working on starting linux on my hermes atm, but am ideally looking to do more |
| 19:57.22 | paulproteus | What does handhelds.org say the Hermes status is? |
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| 19:58.51 | _ivanst_ | i seem to have fallen off the edge of the world |
| 19:58.56 | paulproteus | <paulproteus> What does handhelds.org say the Hermes status is? |
| 19:59.00 | paulproteus | That's all you missed. |
| 19:59.08 | _ivanst_ | paulproteus, it's in development |
| 19:59.12 | _ivanst_ | a work in progress |
| 19:59.17 | paulproteus | What parts work? |
| 19:59.26 | _ivanst_ | The best you can get is a running system with no X Interface |
| 19:59.32 | paulproteus | Eek. |
| 19:59.45 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, http://pastebin.ca/820861 |
| 20:00.00 | _ivanst_ | paulproteus, which pretty much mean that all the fun things lie ahead! |
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| 20:00.03 | ymerejt | It's a patch for the htcuniversal_acx |
| 20:00.25 | ymerejt | I suspect it to be powered if nobody disable it ! |
| 20:00.53 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 20:01.39 | _ivanst_ | paulproteus, well, i'm certainly not going to rest till i get this bugger usable. the other hobby on my todo list is drinking myself into a puddle |
| 20:01.44 | _ivanst_ | which is not really an option atm |
| 20:01.54 | _ivanst_ | no booze at home, and i'm a lazy bum :-) |
| 20:01.56 | Pryan2 | i need kevin2 and cr2 work on athena |
| 20:02.13 | ymerejt | BabelO, staring the make part ... |
| 20:02.19 | Pryan2 | then ill get a linux gentoo OS |
| 20:02.21 | ymerejt | s/staring/starting |
| 20:02.30 | BabelO | ymerejt: ok, i hope it works now |
| 20:04.17 | _ivanst_ | woot, i have a boot :D |
| 20:04.41 | paulproteus | _ivans_, (-: |
| 20:04.41 | _ivanst_ | omfg, this is fugly |
| 20:05.05 | _ivanst_ | i need to get a loupe to see this text :D |
| 20:08.35 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: what to test? |
| 20:09.23 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, http://pastebin.ca/820861 - some printks to see if the wifi hardware goes to sleep. |
| 20:10.01 | ymerejt | just build, load, put your phone on suspend and see how long it will stay in life ? |
| 20:10.12 | ymerejt | paulproteus, not only ... |
| 20:10.23 | paulproteus | ymerejt, I see that now - you forcibly power off the wifi. |
| 20:10.27 | paulproteus | I think? |
| 20:10.28 | goxboxlive | ok, compiled, |
| 20:10.56 | pH5 | uh-oh. RIP CPU fan |
| 20:11.06 | paulproteus | Uh-oh. |
| 20:11.37 | ymerejt | paulproteus, if you disable the powering on in start function, you should remark that wifi work anymore ;) |
| 20:12.00 | paulproteus | ymerejt, Well, I haven't even tried wifi on my Universal yet. (-: |
| 20:12.21 | ymerejt | But in this case, if you shutting down the wifi and start it again it will not start |
| 20:12.45 | ymerejt | The wifi is very bugged ! |
| 20:12.53 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: so you are saying that i shoudl load acx, and then suspend? |
| 20:13.24 | ymerejt | nop |
| 20:13.32 | ymerejt | You must not load acx |
| 20:13.42 | paulproteus | htcuniversal_acx ? |
| 20:13.42 | goxboxlive | ok, i havent |
| 20:13.44 | ymerejt | just htcuniversal_acx which is loaded by default |
| 20:13.53 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 20:14.07 | ymerejt | you should see the line about forcing it to off in dmesg |
| 20:14.41 | BabelO | you can check with apm -s, then resume and look at dmesg |
| 20:16.07 | BabelO | goxboxlive: you can check this and see if you have "sus: adev %s" %s will be hexa values |
| 20:16.54 | BabelO | ymerejt: look at acxmem_e_suspend in mem.c drivers/net/wireless/acx/mem.c |
| 20:17.07 | BabelO | ymerejt: it is here that stop_hw is called |
| 20:19.24 | ymerejt | But if you don't load the acx driver ... ;) |
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| 20:19.56 | Pryan2 | come back in a sec |
| 20:20.14 | ymerejt | BabelO, But if you don't load the acx driver ... ;) |
| 20:20.51 | BabelO | ymerejt: then nothing :) on ba i ve not this problem because power are set by pcmcia |
| 20:21.15 | ymerejt | But we are on the universal |
| 20:21.23 | ymerejt | Power is set by the asic3 |
| 20:21.39 | ymerejt | And possibly the power enable is the default state |
| 20:21.45 | BabelO | yes, power up is called on moudle insert |
| 20:21.58 | BabelO | and removed on module unload, all is in mem.c |
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| 20:22.27 | Pryan2 | hi |
| 20:22.52 | dcordes | cr2, ping |
| 20:22.54 | BabelO | ymerejt: so htcuniversal module seem to be ok |
| 20:23.18 | BabelO | ymerejt: wlan_start is never called if you don't load acx module |
| 20:23.45 | ymerejt | yup but you don't need to call wlan_start to power the chip I think |
| 20:24.13 | ymerejt | Proof: on my universal, if I disable the gpio setting in the wlan_start function, the wifi work |
| 20:25.41 | BabelO | really ? |
| 20:26.00 | ymerejt | yes I made the test yersterday night |
| 20:26.25 | ymerejt | And if I disable it and try to re-enable it it doesn't work ... |
| 20:26.38 | ymerejt | it looks like I'm right |
| 20:26.42 | ymerejt | isn't it ? |
| 20:27.06 | ymerejt | I hope so because in this case the power consumption issue will be mostly solved |
| 20:27.29 | BabelO | ymerejt: it is strange if you look at the code wlan_start is only called when you modprobe acx module |
| 20:27.39 | ymerejt | Yes I know it |
| 20:27.48 | BabelO | ymerejt: if you are right , that mean there is missing gpio for acx |
| 20:28.22 | ymerejt | No, it means the default behavior is powering wifi chip |
| 20:28.52 | BabelO | ah yes, maybe so it is in htcuniversal.c |
| 20:29.02 | BabelO | where there is asic3 init port |
| 20:29.07 | ymerejt | Yes |
| 20:29.18 | goxboxlive | ok calling my self |
| 20:29.23 | goxboxlive | waking up |
| 20:29.43 | ymerejt | It will be the fix patch location in a near futur if it works |
| 20:31.04 | ymerejt | Yet, in all cases, I will clean up the htcuniversal/* I think |
| 20:31.07 | BabelO | ymerejt: ok init for port c = 0c6e0 and d is 7840 |
| 20:33.37 | BabelO | ymerejt: you are right 840 is WIFI PWR3 and PWR2 up |
| 20:33.59 | ymerejt | That's what I was checking |
| 20:34.04 | ymerejt | BabelO thx |
| 20:34.24 | ymerejt | So, I think the battery problem is probably related ;) |
| 20:34.35 | ymerejt | And now we are all agree |
| 20:35.12 | ymerejt | Babel0, goxboxlive and waiting for the goxboxlive test result when its phone will shutdown in 4 days ! ;) |
| 20:36.01 | ymerejt | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.16 | goxboxlive | I have usbnet problems, it would resume |
| 20:36.48 | ymerejt | But to do the correct test you must put your phone on a shelf and see tomorrow if it is still alive ;) |
| 20:37.01 | goxboxlive | ahh i c |
| 20:37.20 | goxboxlive | ok, i leave it suspending tonight and check the battery tomorrow |
| 20:37.21 | ymerejt | If you could do this test |
| 20:37.28 | goxboxlive | of course |
| 20:37.29 | ymerejt | Yup |
| 20:37.29 | paulproteus | I guess we could wake it up in, say, six hours and see how far the battery has drained. |
| 20:37.40 | paulproteus | But there's no test like draining it for real, of course (-: |
| 20:37.47 | ymerejt | Yup but we need to reboot on windows to check it |
| 20:37.48 | goxboxlive | I'll check it before i go to work tomorrow |
| 20:37.57 | ymerejt | thx for your help |
| 20:37.58 | goxboxlive | Maybe i should charge it full first |
| 20:38.06 | ymerejt | It could be better |
| 20:38.29 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: lets hope so |
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| 20:38.48 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: have you been able to build Qtopia yet? |
| 20:38.54 | ymerejt | And I really have to do some clean up operation in htcuniversal/* |
| 20:39.04 | ymerejt | I'm building it |
| 20:39.12 | goxboxlive | sounds great, Qtopia ok |
| 20:39.18 | goxboxlive | wich phoenlibs do you use? |
| 20:39.39 | ymerejt | I have dumped my WM6 AT commands on differents stimulus today |
| 20:39.54 | goxboxlive | ok, i did the same |
| 20:40.18 | ymerejt | I'm trying to build with the htcphone that BabelO gives me |
| 20:40.30 | goxboxlive | ok, i am using ficphone a base |
| 20:40.36 | ymerejt | And I will adapt it to the best phone in world ;) |
| 20:40.46 | Pryan2 | ymerejt we need people who work like you to work on athena proyect |
| 20:41.03 | Pryan2 | and the best phone is athena |
| 20:41.08 | Pryan2 | xd |
| 20:41.23 | ymerejt | ;) |
| 20:41.36 | ymerejt | But I don't have an athena |
| 20:41.42 | ymerejt | I got a universal |
| 20:41.59 | ymerejt | And it already much work |
| 20:42.03 | Pryan2 | sell your universal, buy an advantage and work with us |
| 20:42.20 | ymerejt | I just buy it |
| 20:42.38 | ymerejt | Maybe I will sell it when it will work fine ... |
| 20:42.49 | paulproteus | ymerejt, (-: |
| 20:42.53 | ymerejt | It could take a while ;) |
| 20:43.31 | Pryan2 | cme. on, help us on athena |
| 20:43.51 | Pryan2 | to make the keyboard and SD |
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| 20:44.09 | ymerejt | what does it means 'cme' ? |
| 20:44.17 | paulproteus | "come on" |
| 20:44.26 | paulproteus | (I think?) |
| 20:44.28 | Pryan2 | come |
| 20:44.32 | Pryan2 | yeh |
| 20:45.09 | Pryan2 | we need a lot. of work with athena |
| 20:45.27 | Pryan2 | universal works with linux |
| 20:45.30 | ymerejt | Therefore offer me an athena and I will you ;) |
| 20:45.39 | Pryan2 | only needs devel bugs |
| 20:45.40 | ymerejt | universal does not work fine with linux |
| 20:46.03 | ymerejt | for a phone I mean |
| 20:46.29 | Pryan2 | bleh |
| 20:46.42 | Pryan2 | i hqavent enough money |
| 20:46.49 | ymerejt | I go to have my shower now during the Qtopia build ... |
| 20:47.02 | Pryan2 | ok |
| 20:47.14 | Pryan2 | see ya after |
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| 20:50.17 | Pryan2 | i want my mobile phone runs linux |
| 20:50.49 | Pryan2 | gentoo if its possible |
| 20:51.02 | Pryan2 | better than OE |
| 20:53.19 | Pryan2 | dont think ? |
| 20:53.52 | cr2 | ymerejt: you should not force bt and wifi powerdown by asic3 .init |
| 20:55.00 | Pryan2 | cr2 in march we will probably get help of a company |
| 20:55.16 | Pryan2 | i am speaking today with them |
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| 20:55.44 | Pryan2 | now the cant because have too much work |
| 20:55.45 | cr2 | ymerejt: imho, the .init should be changed, it also applied to the LCD power pins. but it should be changed in a proper way, i.e. haret should powerdown LCD, BKL, bt and wifi. actually it was all implemented in gnu-haret |
| 20:56.30 | BabelO | ymerejt: no sure it change something for sleep mode |
| 20:56.40 | cr2 | Pryan: the kernel has nothing to do with gentoo. what we need are 2-3 drivers. |
| 20:56.57 | BabelO | cr2: what is sleep_conf ? |
| 20:57.15 | Pryan2 | yeah, i will reach some help to code drivers |
| 20:57.18 | cr2 | BabelO: the gpio level in the sleep state. |
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| 20:57.28 | Pryan2 | for athena of course |
| 20:57.31 | Pryan2 | xd |
| 20:58.16 | BabelO | cr2: so power consumption during sleep mode is not due to bad asic3 seetings |
| 20:59.16 | cr2 | Pryan: i've named you 2 drivers: philips/nxp isp1582 USB client and EPSON V03* ATA chipset. the driver for the first of them is already written by philips, and just needs a cleanup. the full EPSON datasheet is available. |
| 20:59.45 | cr2 | BabelO: no, the sleep_conf is just copied from wince. |
| 21:00.23 | cr2 | BabelO: and cleaning the .init values are needed for a clean startup. |
| 21:00.30 | Pryan2 | they will help. us with all the drivers |
| 21:00.41 | cr2 | btw, the .init thing should apply to BA too :) |
| 21:01.04 | Pryan2 | will be a full port |
| 21:01.27 | Pryan2 | they are working in other linux proyects |
| 21:01.54 | Pryan2 | because this work they cant help us now |
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| 21:02.19 | cr2 | hi kiozen |
| 21:02.32 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
| 21:02.33 | kiozen | hi cr2 |
| 21:02.38 | kiozen | hi all :) |
| 21:02.47 | kiozen | BabelO: I need you |
| 21:02.55 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:03.04 | goxboxlive | wow be carefull BabelO :-) |
| 21:03.08 | ymerejt | BabelO, what do you mean ? |
| 21:03.27 | kiozen | where do I have to hit qtopia to set the overall font |
| 21:03.41 | kiozen | goboxlive: no dirty jokes ;) |
| 21:03.48 | BabelO | ymerejt: when you go to sleep mode, all port d and c are switch to state described by sleep_conf, so acx pin are down |
| 21:03.58 | kiozen | goxboxlive |
| 21:04.06 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 21:04.44 | ymerejt | BabelO, it's really a bad new |
| 21:05.25 | BabelO | kiozen: in your themed rc file i think |
| 21:05.45 | kiozen | path ? |
| 21:06.00 | BabelO | ymerejt: it is a good news when device is wakeup then power should be ok now |
| 21:06.15 | kiozen | fonts are so big I can read them without glasses :) |
| 21:07.23 | cr2 | BabelO: the uni_acx is a slave of asic3_base, so the gpios will be (should be) already turned down before asic3 sleeps. |
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| 21:07.43 | BabelO | kiozen: font depend also of your screen QWS_DISPLAY varaible set in mmwidth and mmheight |
| 21:07.59 | cr2 | kiozen: aren't they autoscaled/selected depending on the LCD physical size ? |
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| 21:09.10 | BabelO | kiozen: /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/qpe.conf |
| 21:09.43 | BabelO | cr2: ok that what i mean, but on device boot they are up |
| 21:10.45 | BabelO | kiozen: ok only here |
| 21:10.59 | BabelO | ok, now some wine ;) |
| 21:11.35 | dcordes | cr2, anything new/to do about display driver? |
| 21:11.41 | kiozen | got alrerady :) |
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| 21:11.51 | kiozen | chateau de jau 2003 |
| 21:11.54 | cr2 | dcordes: no. |
| 21:12.13 | cr2 | dcordes: i've found some more registers, and put them into wiki. |
| 21:12.33 | dcordes | I wonder where x_Bruce is. Iirc he said he would show up today |
| 21:12.43 | dcordes | Kaiser_MDDI? |
| 21:13.04 | kiozen | hm mmWidth and mmHeight is ok |
| 21:13.13 | kiozen | qpe.conf says 6 |
| 21:13.34 | kiozen | but still fonts are big |
| 21:14.04 | BabelO | kiozen: mine is syrah 2004 same "cépage" for your chateau de jau :) |
| 21:14.28 | BabelO | kiozen: you keep default font ? |
| 21:14.36 | kiozen | hm, syrah, not really a fan of that |
| 21:14.56 | kiozen | I do nothing with the fonts |
| 21:15.12 | BabelO | kiozen: you drink it , look :http://www.nicolas.com/fr/18_412_4133_chateaudejau.htm |
| 21:15.30 | diogene31 | Kevin2, Are you around for some news of my UART debugging ? |
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| 21:16.21 | kiozen | hehe, you are right |
| 21:16.36 | kiozen | but it's good stuff |
| 21:16.43 | cr2 | kiozen: you should have the same setup as universal. |
| 21:18.22 | kiozen | qpe looks ok, but if I start the app in qpe fonts are still big |
| 21:18.43 | paulproteus | kiozen, You could change the DPI maybe. |
| 21:18.53 | cr2 | diogene31: i've put these values there, they are copied from wince. but the proper clock setup is a bit of a black magic to me. i didn't understand the wince values comparing them to the description in the samsung CPU manual |
| 21:19.31 | cr2 | paulproteus: dpi is pixel size/ mm size. both are fixed. |
| 21:19.33 | BabelO | kiozen: do you use qtdesigner to do app ? i notice a little diff between my qtdesigner and the one in qtopia/depot/bin |
| 21:19.49 | BabelO | kiozen: default are not the same |
| 21:20.13 | kiozen | I use designer, however the fonts I use without designer a re big, too |
| 21:20.14 | cr2 | BabelO: is the qtdesigner putting hardcoded widget sizes ? |
| 21:20.54 | BabelO | cr2: no widget depend of your layout if you want |
| 21:21.09 | BabelO | cr2: i ll look for font |
| 21:21.22 | diogene31 | cr2, Which values ? And why clock setup ? |
| 21:22.02 | BabelO | kiozen: i ve fonts set in my ui file, value is 8 |
| 21:22.50 | kiozen | no fonts set in my uis |
| 21:22.59 | cr2 | diogene31: look at the htchermes.c . htchermes_uartcfg array. |
| 21:23.55 | BabelO | kiozen: what default device do you use to build qtopia |
| 21:24.06 | BabelO | kiozen: i think i know why :) |
| 21:24.11 | kiozen | htcphone |
| 21:24.25 | BabelO | ah ah |
| 21:24.40 | BabelO | export QWS_SIZE=480x640 |
| 21:24.53 | kiozen | ok trying.. |
| 21:24.56 | BabelO | or in the other order |
| 21:25.05 | diogene31 | cr2, I've managed a working driver for the GSM part of the MIO A701. My trouble is spying WinCE AT commands, to reproduce their sequence. |
| 21:25.58 | paulproteus | cr2, /me nods |
| 21:25.58 | kiozen | guess i have t make a make clean, don't I? |
| 21:26.16 | BabelO | no you don't need |
| 21:26.38 | BabelO | just set this env settings in qpe script |
| 21:26.40 | BabelO | before start |
| 21:27.09 | diogene31 | cr2, Are you talking about a file in haret sources ? |
| 21:27.23 | cr2 | diogene31: ok, i forgot that you have A701 :) |
| 21:28.06 | dcordes | cr2, what are we to do right now about display? disassemble wince driver? |
| 21:28.15 | kiozen | BabelO: no, same result |
| 21:28.34 | diogene31 | cr2, No trouble. |
| 21:29.17 | diogene31 | Does anybode have a link to haret source code. I'll gladly have a look into MMU analysis part, to check where is my issue. |
| 21:29.17 | BabelO | kiozen: how is your screen mode ? landscape ? |
| 21:29.31 | BabelO | kiozen: it look like a bad X x Y settings |
| 21:29.32 | kiozen | portrait |
| 21:29.57 | kiozen | if I harcode the font to 6 it's ok |
| 21:30.13 | kiozen | thus the ratios eem to be ok |
| 21:30.20 | kiozen | s/eem/seem |
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| 21:31.10 | goxboxlive | Ok, universal is fully charged. Booting linux at 22:24 Norwegian time. |
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| 21:33.39 | goxboxlive | Ok, it suspended at 22:28 Norwegian time. I had full battery at boot. I'll check tomorrow if it still alive |
| 21:35.32 | cr2 | kiozen: it's something to ask ljp |
| 21:35.46 | kiozen | Ijp?? |
| 21:35.47 | cr2 | goxboxlive: what is norwegian time ? |
| 21:35.58 | BabelO | cr2: it is same than me ;) |
| 21:36.09 | goxboxlive | smae as you +1 CET |
| 21:36.25 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ? |
| 21:36.38 | cr2 | it's the normal MET/CET ? |
| 21:36.43 | cr2 | like sweden ? |
| 21:36.48 | goxboxlive | yep |
| 21:36.50 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 21:37.16 | BabelO | kiozen: it look strange we have same value than fic and you have same screen |
| 21:37.41 | BabelO | kiozen: how do you define your x / y form size ? |
| 21:37.42 | cr2 | afair only the uk and irland have negative offset |
| 21:37.46 | BabelO | ~ping ljp |
| 21:37.46 | apt | pong ljp |
| 21:37.54 | goxboxlive | cr2: how is the cam driver going. Have you had any progress lately? |
| 21:38.08 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 21:38.24 | goxboxlive | come on cr2, make us the cam driver sp we can have some fun with the universal |
| 21:38.25 | cr2 | goxboxlive: look at the hackndev CVS :) |
| 21:38.39 | BabelO | kiozen: it is really soon for ljp |
| 21:38.43 | goxboxlive | cr2: whats's that? Is the source there? |
| 21:39.14 | kiozen | BabelO: I define form size at runtime |
| 21:39.17 | BabelO | kiozen: 7:38 am :) |
| 21:39.40 | BabelO | kiozen: you set it to heigh() / width() |
| 21:39.53 | kiozen | I use setGeometry() |
| 21:40.14 | BabelO | kiozen: i do the same in my app, font are ok, just an issue with one font defined in sources to 8 |
| 21:40.17 | kiozen | but fonts are wrong for other stuf, too |
| 21:41.10 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes, there is some pxa_camera and *ov9650* driver there. |
| 21:41.27 | goxboxlive | cr2: hmm then what are we waiting 4? |
| 21:41.40 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you save the voltage and current discharge curves in linux and wince ? |
| 21:41.43 | goxboxlive | You make the driver and i'll test :-) |
| 21:41.59 | BabelO | kiozen: can you try to coment setgeometry and set your ui file global size to display size ? |
| 21:42.07 | cr2 | goxboxlive: pH5 said that it does not work. but it's a step forward. |
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| 21:42.29 | goxboxlive | cr2: i have no idea. Idont use wince anymore. I havent used my uni since i bought the A780, and thats a while ago' |
| 21:42.34 | goxboxlive | cr2: ok |
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| 21:43.39 | Pryan3 | hi |
| 21:43.52 | goxboxlive | cr2: what about access to the mdoc3? |
| 21:43.53 | Pryan3 | testing MMS |
| 21:44.01 | goxboxlive | Have you looked any furher on it? |
| 21:44.31 | Pryan3 | i dont know how to send an MMS on htc athena |
| 21:44.37 | Pryan3 | wm6 |
| 21:44.51 | Pryan3 | somebody help |
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| 21:46.35 | ymerejt | BabelO, qtopia is builded ! ;) |
| 21:47.26 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: :-) |
| 21:47.36 | Pryan2 | great ymerejt |
| 21:47.45 | diogene31 | ymerejt, Good. Very good. |
| 21:47.49 | BabelO | ymerejt: already ? what is your computer ??? |
| 21:48.18 | ymerejt | BabelO, pentium M 2GHz |
| 21:49.10 | Pryan2 | ymerejt do you want to test qtopia ? |
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| 21:49.33 | Pryan2 | only test or permament inst |
| 21:49.42 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you do it in linux ? while true; do cat /sys/... >>charge_log; done |
| 21:49.57 | ymerejt | Pryan2, no at this time. My phone is used to do some tests and I have to implement universal AT command ... |
| 21:50.05 | cr2 | goxboxlive: add sleep 1 ; to that. |
| 21:50.05 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes, but not now. I have it in suspend mode, i'll test after work tomorrow |
| 21:50.16 | BabelO | ymerejt: ok, next step is to override or inherit qtopia class for modem AT command in plugin :) |
| 21:50.48 | goxboxlive | now it's late,i need some sleep. g'night |
| 21:50.48 | kiozen_ | BabelO: still the same |
| 21:51.43 | Pryan2 | so you plan to install qtopia in your phone and uninstall your desktop |
| 21:53.15 | Pryan2 | well, its the same |
| 21:54.33 | Pryan2 | cr2 any work in SD ? |
| 21:54.36 | kiozen_ | BabelO: if I do a "qApp->setStyleSheet("QWidget {font-size: 6pt;}");" it works. |
| 21:54.54 | BabelO | kiozen_: last time i got same than you is when i use other qtdesigner and my form had bad size, so i don t understand :( |
| 21:55.30 | kiozen_ | don't think it has to do with designer |
| 21:55.40 | BabelO | kiozen_: ok, but 6 is the default size |
| 21:55.50 | cr2 | kiozen: but it's not a good idea. |
| 21:56.03 | kiozen_ | cr2 I know |
| 21:56.16 | cr2 | kiozen_: there are 240x240 and 480x640 LCDs |
| 21:56.46 | kiozen_ | That's why I would prefer not to set any absolute font size |
| 21:58.30 | cr2 | yes, but then it's a qtopia bug that the default font properties are not inherited from QObject |
| 21:58.54 | kiozen_ | hm, still think it's a bad setup.. |
| 21:59.26 | kiozen_ | btw latest code is in svn, you have to setup common and do a distclean |
| 22:00.36 | BabelO | kiozen_: can i try your app ? |
| 22:00.54 | kiozen_ | sure, but you need a map |
| 22:01.01 | BabelO | :( |
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| 22:01.12 | kiozen_ | do you have some raster map as geotiff? |
| 22:01.20 | BabelO | kiozen_: i ve gp toolkit on my host |
| 22:01.24 | cr2 | kiozen_: we need an ozi .map import wizard :) |
| 22:01.56 | BabelO | kiozen_: no, i didn't know what it is before you explain it few days ago |
| 22:02.01 | kiozen_ | cr2: sure, but first some working stuff :) |
| 22:02.14 | cr2 | kiozen_: but it opens a can of worms. |
| 22:02.24 | kiozen_ | BabelO: how much does your mail digest? |
| 22:02.42 | BabelO | kiozen_: 20 Mb |
| 22:02.47 | kiozen_ | ok |
| 22:03.53 | cr2 | kiozen_: think about the gui side, like img2ozf. i'll do the backend. |
| 22:04.15 | Pryan2 | cr2 some work ? |
| 22:04.32 | cr2 | kiozen_: http://fermoll.de/img2ozf/nutzung.htm |
| 22:07.40 | BabelO | kiozen_: i think it is your pro file, i ll try |
| 22:10.11 | kiozen_ | BabelO: you got mail |
| 22:10.15 | Pryan2 | cr2 i need your work to start mine |
| 22:10.30 | BabelO | kiozen_: thx, i try to compile M version |
| 22:10.49 | Pryan2 | for. this im .so insistent |
| 22:11.53 | cr2 | Pryan2: i've uploaded the zimage yesterday |
| 22:12.39 | BabelO | kiozen_: you use qt config and not qtopia, so default valkues are not ok |
| 22:12.46 | ymerejt | cr2, The touchscreen looks always powered on suspend more (when I touch him I resume) |
| 22:12.54 | Pryan2 | ok, when im in my pc will ask for the url |
| 22:13.03 | ymerejt | cr2: I have not found how to unpower it. |
| 22:13.08 | kiozen_ | BabelO: ?? |
| 22:13.19 | BabelO | kiozen_: do you have my app ? :) |
| 22:13.34 | kiozen_ | not yet, moment... |
| 22:13.37 | BabelO | kiozen_: look at pro file and then use qtopiamake :) |
| 22:16.21 | Pryan2 | cr2 but i think that image doesnt serve me for much, i must use a compiled-patched image of kernel to work it on my emulator |
| 22:16.50 | Pryan2 | i will pass you the stages i will make |
| 22:18.51 | Pryan2 | so this bzimage will serve to you |
| 22:18.56 | Pryan2 | :o) |
| 22:19.35 | BabelO | kiozen_: i need gdal to build it ? |
| 22:19.44 | kiozen_ | yes and proj4 |
| 22:19.51 | BabelO | ok |
| 22:20.25 | Pryan2 | althrough i buy a cable, wich is possible the next month |
| 22:21.40 | kiozen_ | babelO: Project ERROR: You must specify the project type with qtopia_project() |
| 22:21.42 | kiozen_ | ?? |
| 22:21.50 | kiozen_ | BabelO |
| 22:21.51 | Pryan2 | a cable, a usb hub and a ps2/usb converter |
| 22:21.55 | Pryan2 | hahhahha |
| 22:21.57 | BabelO | kiozen_: yes you need qtopia_project(qtopia app) |
| 22:22.45 | Pryan2 | and a SD card |
| 22:23.24 | Pryan2 | this things i need to boot gentoo on my athena |
| 22:23.59 | Pryan2 | any suggestions to .decrease the # of things ? |
| 22:25.56 | cr2 | ymerejt: are you using _ts2 driver or something else ? |
| 22:26.52 | ymerejt | cr2: yes |
| 22:27.57 | ymerejt | oops, htcuniversal.c:406 |
| 22:29.50 | cr2 | ymerejt: it's not a big problem. |
| 22:30.00 | ymerejt | yup I see |
| 22:30.02 | cr2 | unless you compile 2 drivers simultaneously |
| 22:30.13 | ymerejt | And I don't understand why I resume when I touch the screen |
| 22:31.14 | Pryan2 | cr2 i suppose there is no modules with this bzimage |
| 22:31.28 | ymerejt | cr2, I don't |
| 22:32.47 | cr2 | Pryan2: there is no bzimage on arm |
| 22:33.17 | kiozen_ | BabelO: can you have a look at my .pro in svn. I don't get it right |
| 22:33.18 | cr2 | ymerejt: you have added the gpio14 as a wakeup ? |
| 22:33.48 | Pryan2 | what ? what is the result of kernel compilation. ? |
| 22:33.49 | ymerejt | yes |
| 22:33.51 | ymerejt | cr2: yes |
| 22:33.58 | cr2 | ymerejt: then all unmasked asic3 gpio irqs will wakeup the uni. i.e. ts too |
| 22:34.15 | cr2 | look at the universalasic3 |
| 22:34.20 | cr2 | wiki page |
| 22:34.21 | BabelO | kiozen_: yes , i just build your app , it fail with libproj path :) |
| 22:34.31 | BabelO | kiozen_: then i can try in emulator avfb |
| 22:35.25 | ymerejt | cr2, yes but the ts2 relative IRQ has been disabled ... |
| 22:35.26 | cr2 | ymerejt: Sleep=0 btw, how do you habdle the msm6250 DCD irq ? |
| 22:35.54 | cr2 | ymerejt: the sleep state has it's own hw logic |
| 22:37.25 | Pryan2 | cr2 what is the result of kernel compilation. ? it isnt a bzimage ? |
| 22:37.27 | ymerejt | cr2, I catch the BB_ALERT IRQ |
| 22:37.59 | diogene31 | ymerejt, GPS is working too on the MIO. |
| 22:38.17 | ymerejt | diogene31: nice job |
| 22:38.55 | kiozen_ | BabelO: I give up for today, too late, see u in the morning |
| 22:38.59 | BabelO | kiozen_: app build ok ;) |
| 22:39.08 | ymerejt | diogene31: So tomorrow, my phone should be able to use you GPS over bluetooth ;) |
| 22:39.08 | BabelO | kiozen_: ok good night |
| 22:39.12 | kiozen_ | bb |
| 22:39.25 | cr2 | diogene31: have you sorted out the UART assignments ? can you trace the GPS ? |
| 22:39.49 | cr2 | in haret |
| 22:41.27 | diogene31 | cr2, Nope, haret still eludes me. I think there's a tricky thing in the MMU, perhaps the 128MB of RAM having something to do in it ... |
| 22:42.15 | cr2 | diogene31: this is strange. |
| 22:42.23 | diogene31 | cr2, GPS doesn't need to be traced. It's standard NMEA protocol for now. On the over side, GSM does. |
| 22:43.03 | cr2 | diogene31: yes, but it's o general interest. if you can trace gps, but not gsm, for example, then it'll be even more strange. |
| 22:43.18 | diogene31 | cr, Yeah, exactly my thought. I made an experience on ymerejt htc today, and the tracing does work on the htc ... |
| 22:43.42 | cr2 | BabelO: what do you think about such gui ? http://fermoll.de/img2ozf/bedienung.htm |
| 22:43.43 | Pryan2 | cr2 what is the result of kernel compilation. ? it isnt a bzimage ? |
| 22:43.56 | cr2 | Pryan2: only on x86 |
| 22:44.24 | cr2 | Pryan2: x86 is weird in many respects. |
| 22:44.43 | Pryan2 | what is the result on arm ? |
| 22:44.48 | cr2 | zimage |
| 22:45.09 | diogene31 | cr2, I can't trace GPS either. Neither bluetooth. It's as is the MMU address mapping UART is false. |
| 22:45.11 | Pryan2 | ahh, its the same |
| 22:45.22 | cr2 | bzimage is used because of some 8086 mode stupidity. |
| 22:45.29 | BabelO | cr2: too many little option, and not enough big and easy button :) |
| 22:45.34 | Pryan2 | i. said it for. the bootloader |
| 22:45.44 | cr2 | diogene31: i guess you are doing something wrong :) |
| 22:46.25 | cr2 | BabelO: i don't think we'd like to have it for qtopia. it's too CPU-intensive. |
| 22:47.07 | diogene31 | cr2, Yep, trying to understand wince :) |
| 22:47.22 | Pryan2 | BabelO what phone ? |
| 22:47.54 | cr2 | BabelO: this one is even more interesting http://fermoll.de/mapmerge.htm |
| 22:48.06 | Pryan2 | cr2 i suppose there is no modules with this zimage |
| 22:49.27 | cr2 | Pryan2: i have the modules, but you don't really need them. |
| 22:50.28 | Pryan2 | why, if there are any modules they must be under /lib/ wich i dont have |
| 22:50.29 | BabelO | cr2: do you use kiozen tools ? how i pass map ? |
| 22:50.34 | cr2 | BabelO: how difficult is to create such a gui in qtdesigner ? i'd prefer only to work on callbacks :) |
| 22:51.10 | cr2 | BabelO: you don't pass it, you need a layer description file, and the .tiff images |
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| 22:51.56 | cr2 | Pryan2: all important modules are already compiled in. try to boot this zimage, and tell me if it works. |
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| 22:54.12 | Pryan2 | ok |
| 22:55.34 | Pryan2 | maybe i need some help with haret |
| 22:55.35 | Pryan2 | or i will use linexec |
| 22:55.49 | Pryan2 | i. dont know |
| 22:56.33 | BabelO | cr2: not difficul to create such gui with qt, |
| 22:57.15 | cr2 | BabelO: actually, this is exactly the kind of a program that you need :) |
| 22:57.27 | cr2 | to import the maps. |
| 22:58.14 | BabelO | cr2: for the ui i can do it.. but after |
| 22:59.42 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:59.46 | dcordes | cr2, is it possible to dump the traffic that is on serial port from WINCE? |
| 23:00.02 | dcordes | to get more display info |
| 23:00.08 | BabelO | cr2: ok, file .map is loaded but not to the correct position |
| 23:01.06 | cr2 | BabelO: did you create your own ? |
| 23:01.07 | Pryan2 | BabelO calibrate it, i think its possible with oziexplorer |
| 23:01.39 | BabelO | cr2: kiozen sen me a map, i ve to set coord to conf file, but format is not the same |
| 23:01.44 | cr2 | Pryan2: it's a different program. to replace ozi on qtopia. |
| 23:02.12 | Pryan2 | ahm |
| 23:02.18 | cr2 | Pryan2: since it's qt4 it'll work on windowz and mac. |
| 23:02.50 | Pryan2 | aham, ok |
| 23:02.51 | cr2 | Pryan2: if somebody is crazy enough they can compile it for wince ;) there is qt4 for wince . |
| 23:02.53 | BabelO | cr2: how do you convert lat / long, i ve not my calculator ;) |
| 23:03.08 | cr2 | BabelO: you have proj4 installed ? |
| 23:03.16 | BabelO | cr2: yes |
| 23:03.33 | cr2 | then use 'cs2cs' what do you want to convert ? |
| 23:03.34 | BabelO | cr2: thanks to opensuse 10.3and its easy installer package ;) |
| 23:03.55 | cr2 | BabelO: btw, you can install qgis .rpms too. |
| 23:03.59 | BabelO | cr2: N49 01.077 E012 05.733 -> lat /long |
| 23:04.13 | cr2 | BabelO: ah. that's easy :) |
| 23:04.40 | Pryan2 | cr2 my installation of pocket linux can have qt4 |
| 23:04.52 | cr2 | awk '{print 49+1.077/60,12+5.733/60}' |
| 23:05.10 | cr2 | Pryan2: qtopia is qt4. |
| 23:05.26 | Pryan2 | no |
| 23:05.30 | BabelO | cr2: lol, i need awk :) |
| 23:05.31 | Pryan2 | qt2 |
| 23:05.48 | Pryan2 | oh yes |
| 23:05.50 | cr2 | BabelO: 49.0179 12.0955 |
| 23:05.54 | Pryan2 | is qt4 |
| 23:06.08 | Pryan2 | what is qt2 is opie |
| 23:06.27 | Pryan2 | i am confused with so much work |
| 23:06.31 | Pryan2 | hahhaha |
| 23:07.06 | BabelO | cr2: yes i joke ;) |
| 23:07.28 | cr2 | BabelO: not installing awk is a deadly sin :) |
| 23:07.44 | BabelO | cr2: i got it at work under windows ;) |
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| 23:08.52 | Pryan2 | wb dcordes |
| 23:14.46 | Pryan2 | well people. one who goes. cr2 work on SD and kevin2 work on keyboard |
| 23:15.05 | Pryan2 | its .the only drivers i need |
| 23:15.27 | Pryan2 | appart thats already make |
| 23:15.42 | dcordes | and gentoo filesystem :P |
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| 23:16.22 | Pryan2 | dcordes hehehe, gentoo is my work |
| 23:16.30 | dcordes | ^^ good |
| 23:16.49 | dcordes | cr2, did you hear anything from laf0rge except kaiser does not violate gpl? |
| 23:16.53 | Pryan2 | jjfs2 |
| 23:17.03 | dcordes | Pryan, what about jjfs2? |
| 23:17.14 | Pryan2 | its the filesystem i will use |
| 23:17.31 | dcordes | jffs2 |
| 23:17.47 | Pryan2 | ...exactly |
| 23:17.55 | Pryan2 | uf |
| 23:18.07 | Pryan2 | i have very bad memory |
| 23:19.35 | Pryan2 | well, see ya |
| 23:19.40 | dcordes | e2fsck /dev/memory ^^ |
| 23:19.41 | Pryan2 | bye |
| 23:19.43 | dcordes | bye |
| 23:19.57 | Pryan2 | hahaha |
| 23:20.15 | Pryan2 | mkreiserfs .better |
| 23:20.58 | Pryan2 | reiser4 is the latest |
| 23:21.05 | Pryan2 | bye |
| 23:25.47 | diogene31 | bye. |
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| 23:42.06 | BabelO | cr2: what is the loox screen size ? |
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| 23:52.04 | BabelO | he he i found why display is wrong ;) |
| 23:52.11 | BabelO | cr2: not here ? |
| 23:55.37 | BabelO | good night |