IRC log for #htc-linux on 20071216

00:00.12BabelOcr2: what is the correct mmc driver for BA, you say often it is time to change depends
00:00.12cr2ok, it's the end of 64MB
00:00.36cr2BabelO: asic3_mmc ?
00:01.07cr2why do you want tot change it ?
00:01.47BabelOcr2: no i just continue merge with git tree and i remember you speak about tmio or something like that
00:01.52cr2it needs the sdio update, but that's .23+ only
00:02.12cr2tmio is much more primitive driver.
00:02.22cr2i've never said something like that :)
00:02.54BabelOcr2: yes that s why i use git tree which is .23 and latest too
00:03.14cr2they have something in common, but atiw_mmc also has something in common with them ;)
00:03.22cr2ok.
00:03.32BabelOMMC/SD over SPI (EXPERIMENTAL)
00:03.39cr2don't need.
00:03.55cr2because we don't have it.
00:04.19cr2it's zaurus5[0|5]00 feature.
00:04.32cr2aka collie
00:04.57cr2sharp+htc made a very big secret out of it .
00:06.27ymerejtI'm going to sleep
00:06.38BabelOat same time i try to learn how git command works :)
00:07.01cr2ymerejt: did you have 'unaligned access' in dmesg ?
00:07.21cr2and is it possible to read something from g3 ?
00:07.24ymerejtno
00:07.40ymerejtIt looks not
00:07.55cr2unaligned or read ?
00:08.48ymerejtI don't have unaligned access in dmesg
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00:09.47Pryan2hi
00:09.48ymerejtread call on docg3 works for a while and stop on Input/Ouput error with the dmesg Failed for 4000000 2000 => I think it's redable
00:10.25ymerejtcr2, something else ?
00:11.01cr2ymerejt: no. we should think about the mdoc size.
00:11.20ymerejtand about the battery problem ?
00:11.25cr2hmm. i think it's the 32bit vs. 16bit vs. 8bit read access problem.
00:12.02cr2this driver does 99% of what wince does for raw reads.
00:12.11cr2maybe we need to fix the remaining 1% :)
00:12.42Pryan2heheheh
00:16.11cr2goxboxlive: how do you generate your .cab file ? it seems that the locale() is ignored.
00:17.00cr2goxboxlive: wince .inf has a Esomething% way to address these problems.
00:17.22cr2%CE%
00:17.43Pryan2code code code
00:17.48Pryan2xD
00:19.50Pryan2i have tryed to compile gpe and opie under gentoo
00:19.59Pryan2but it fails
00:20.20Pryan2tomorrow i will working on it
00:20.50Pryan2because i think they are solutionable problems
00:22.48Pryan2how you go with the drivers cr2
00:23.34dcordescr2: at the irq page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ did you notice that 6 is used for several functions? I wonder if it is used for cpld because of that
00:26.23cr2dcordes: if the cpld has irqs, which is btw not clear, they can't be serviced by the msm irq.
00:26.34cr2it's the same on pxa/s3c/etc.
00:26.51cr2the cpld/asic3 irqs are multiplexed on 1 gpio irq.
00:27.32cr2so what you will see on the msm irq is just 1 gpio irq.
00:27.57dcordeswhich is 6?
00:31.57dcordeswhat is aisc3 between? Is it a cpld chip?
00:32.21dcordesI noticed it does sd and other things on beetles blueangel and others
00:33.45cr2yes, it's a gpio/irq extender and some other neat things.
00:33.57cr2like spi,pwm,led,SD, etc.
00:34.10cr21w battery monitor
00:34.27cr2but it's not used anymore.
00:34.53goxboxlivecr2: i do it with cab extract in a very easy way
00:36.49goxboxlivepocketpc-cab -v -p Xanadux-Team -a Openmoko-Linux openmoko-linux.files Openmoko-Linux.cab
00:37.10cr2goxboxlive: but not everybody has 'Storage Card', it depends on locale()
00:37.36goxboxlive<<EOF
00:37.36goxboxliveQtopia-Linux.lnk \\Windows\Start~Menu\Programs\Linux
00:37.36goxboxliveqtopia.linux.rootfs.tar.bz2 \\Storage~Card
00:37.36goxboxliveQtopia-Linux.exe \\Program~Files\Linux
00:37.36goxboxliveEOF
00:37.44cr2wince tools have the .inf script file
00:37.56goxboxliveok, i dont
00:38.15cr2goxboxlive: from xda-dev
00:38.18cr2Hello. Since the arrival of the cab files i got errors "Root tar filessytem not found"
00:38.19cr2My problem was on my french WinCe system "Storage card" folder does not exists. It is named "carte de stockage".
00:38.44goxboxlive:-)
00:39.18goxboxliveim of to bed now. night
00:39.23dcordescr2: goxboxlive does qtopia have akita machtype?
00:39.26cr2good night.
00:50.00dcordescr2: do you have an idea which irqs I can look for?
00:50.20dcordesor anything else I can do
01:04.59cr2dcordes: qtopia does not have machtype afaik.
01:05.12cr2it may read /proc/cpuinfo if needed.
01:05.54dcordescr2: I mean device specifications. like conf/machine/*.conf in OE
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01:13.44cr2don't know.
01:13.53cr2i think it's a bad idea anyway.
01:14.53cr2we should not fall into /dev/sharp_buzzer stupidity with custom ioctls once again.
01:16.00cr2the kernel interface should be unified as much as we can.
01:17.09dcordesyes we talked about that earlier. you said you can't even build zaurus kernel from the mainline kernel
01:17.52dcordesI hope for kaiser this will be different
01:19.57cr2yes, because we control the device drivers, and not some nameless sharp subcontractor pushed by the deadlines :)
01:21.09pH5_cr2: I've just booted a magician with rootfs on flash for the first time. now I really need that bootloader to load the kernel from flash, too.
01:21.41cr2pH5_: wow. that's big.
01:22.25cr2pH5_: you want to hack on uboot ?
01:22.58pH5_not quite sure. in any case a few days of *concentrated* work, I hope...
01:23.19pH5_the problem with u-boot is that without the usb console it isn't very useful on the magician
01:23.46cr2i don't know about the magician, but on ba/uni the hx4700 bootldr may be easier to port.
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01:24.53cr2uboot code looked like a horrible spaghetty #ifdef mess to me ;)
01:25.33cr2unless you have some experience with it, it#s not really easy.
01:25.38pH5_cr2: indeed. otoh it has pxa mmc support, which would be nice for ma.
01:26.20cr2yes, that's true. pxa-mci.
01:26.33pH5_u-boot looks like an agglomeration of bootloaders with just shared console/configuration part
01:26.55cr2it covers everything under the sun.
01:27.04cr2from omap to x86
01:27.14cr2so it#s not a big surprise.
01:27.21cr2BabelO: ipv6 ?
01:27.31BabelOcr2: yes :)
01:27.53BabelOworks perfect :)
01:29.00cr2BabelO: read the log. pH5_ have booted magician from flash. the new linux era is starting :)
01:29.34BabelOso his magician was not broken ;)
01:29.40pH5_heh, now I feel like cheating. the kernel was still booted via usb from the htc bootloader.
01:29.42BabelOpH5_: great work :)
01:31.04pH5_BabelO: unfortunately the old one is still bricked and I don't know the jtag pins. but I don't quite feel like baking an otherwise fine device yet... decisions...
01:33.09BabelOpH5_: which is your rootfs size ?
01:33.23cr2pH5_: why don#t you just contact some repair shop ?
01:33.58cr2hmm. it may be difficult for the htc phones. they are not so widespread like nokia/sony-ericsson...
01:34.21BabelOcr2, pH5_ i buy a JTAG flasher for a motorola phone only 8E, just need to remove all and insert motherboard in jtad flasher ;)
01:34.44cr2there is only 1 repair center in Germany that could repair the universal.
01:36.12BabelOno htc on this website, only common phone
01:36.24pH5_BabelO: 19M, but that's just because I've only overwritten the extrom section so it is dual-bootable right now.
01:36.41BabelOpH5_: ok
01:37.16BabelOthat is good if we can use extrom as readonly  and pxa flash for the other
01:37.36cr2BabelO: you can't reflash extrom on ba. yet.
01:37.37BabelOi think for BA ;)
01:37.51pH5_cr2: which repair center? I'd prefer if somebody could just tell me the jtag pinouts :/
01:38.16BabelOcr2: i understand, but i can write a img file on extrom and mount it from outside with g3 driver
01:38.18pH5_cr2: let me have that ba docking cable and I'll see to it.
01:38.29cr2pH5_: hmm. need to search on google again.
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01:39.02cr2BabelO: the typhoon g3 driver tries to access the chip in 4byte mode and produces unaligned accesses.
01:39.31cr2while uni uses 2byte and ba 1byte bus accesses.
01:39.49dcordescr2: kaiser's irqs 1 and 2 which I called modem related in the map because they are active with activated phone are also workign while GPS is active
01:40.34cr2dcordes: do you have phm reg editor ?
01:40.44dcordesno what do I need it for?
01:41.13cr2it's possible to activate the ATCmd log on other phones.
01:41.40dcordesso one can dump communication between arm9 and 11 thingy?
01:41.41cr2i suspect that the GPS nmea data may go over ATCmd channel.
01:41.48cr2yes.
01:41.55dcordescool where can I get it?
01:42.04cr2GPS is a part on arm9 in some sense.
01:42.23cr2you also need to know the key. i'll look for it.
01:42.26dcordeslet me have a look at the 7200 scheme
01:42.30dcordesok
01:42.56cr2http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
01:43.46cr2the log hides some things, like framing or pin. but it's still very useful source of information.
01:44.54BabelOpH5_: i just discover git-gui tools in tcl/tk
01:48.05dcordescr2: got it on the phone
01:48.11dcordes2003 arm/pxa version
01:50.03cr2BabelO: you may try to trace the g3 register accesses with haret.
01:51.18BabelOcr2: i like to switch to git before, so we are up to date with latest kernel
01:51.41cr2dcordes: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\ATDbgLog]
01:52.03cr2BabelO: ok, that will be really nice. i'll try sdio gps then :)
01:52.31BabelOyou have one ? how does it look ? i never see one
01:52.51cr2dcordes: Enable=1
01:52.54cr2<PROTECTED>
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01:53.12cr2dcordes: and softreset.
01:53.56cr2BabelO: http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/globalsat-sdio-gps-sd501.php
01:54.18BabelOah ok ;)
01:54.37dcordescr2: enable=1 or 0?
01:54.41cr2=1
01:55.35cr2BabelO: this one is even more fun http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/globalsat-sd502-gps-review.php
01:55.49cr2BabelO: but afaik combo cards are not supported in linux.
01:56.53BabelOi remeber this-* king of antenna now, i just see the picture, i have pla,n to do same :)
01:56.55dcordescr2: file size is decimal here
01:57.20cr2dcordes: does not matter. set enable and softreset.
01:58.01dcordesbooting
01:58.54cr2+HTCAGPS=5|
01:58.54cr2+HTCAGPS=%d|
01:59.51cr2a lot of weird stuff there.
01:59.53cr2AT@HTCPDPFD=1
02:00.33cr2AT+ENCSQ=1
02:00.54cr2+HTCNV=%d,%d,%d
02:01.05cr2+HTCmaskW1=%d,%d
02:01.34cr2+ODEN=%s
02:01.36dcordescr2: eh?
02:02.27cr2hehe. wtf is that AT+VKK_SIM_EXPIRED
02:02.54dcordeswhere do you take that stuff from?
02:02.57cr2AT+ISIMA=%u,"%s"
02:02.57cr2AT+ISIMR=%u
02:03.11cr2this is interesting AT@UARTSWITCH?
02:03.58cr2@HTCDORMANCYSET=%d
02:04.05cr2the rest looks standard.
02:04.41cr2Oden (ใŠใงใ‚“) is a Japanese winter dish consisting of several ingredients such as boiled eggs, daikon radish, konnyaku, and processed fish cakes
02:05.37cr2dcordes: do you have something in \Temp ?
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02:06.40dcordes_cr2: pH5 is a friend of japanese winter dish?
02:08.55cr2i was searching for AT+ODEN on google :)
02:08.56dcordes_am I supposed to do anything with the regeditor or did you yet finish the dump with you telekinetic powers?
02:09.24dcordes_see (ใŠ is also included in pH5's quit message
02:09.34dcordes_<PROTECTED>
02:09.41cr2look in \Temp with the file manager. the phone should be turned on, and logged into network.
02:10.00cr2the first glyph is the same :)
02:10.18cr2others are different.
02:12.35dcordes_i will play around a bit and go online, start gps
02:12.50cr2do you see the log file ?
02:12.54dcordes_yep yep
02:12.58cr2ok :)
02:12.58dcordes_also getting bigger
02:13.05cr2good.
02:13.11dcordes_i will copy it to sd and paste
02:13.18cr2don't forget about 2MB limit.
02:13.40cr2it may include your phone, imei, contacts, etc.
02:13.45cr2the log
02:14.02dcordes_total commander rocks
02:14.07cr2sdo keep it in mind.
02:14.17dcordes_oh ok
02:14.32dcordes_do you have some ftp or so?
02:14.44cr2not for upload.
02:16.08dcordes_dcc?
02:16.22cr2usually does not work.
02:16.40dcordes_nevermind then I will keep it so far
02:17.12dcordes_it is 21kb
02:17.18cr2ok, look at the file.
02:17.32cr2there should be an init string first.
02:17.36dcordes_it has a bunch of errors
02:18.04dcordes_can't find init
02:18.17cr2ZE0S0=0Q0V0X3&C1&D1|+GTKC=2;+CMEE=1;+CRC=1;+CR=1;+CREG=1;+FCLASS=0;+CMGF=0;+CSCS="HEX";+CSSN=0,1;+CLIP=1;+COLP=0;+CCWA=1
02:18.20cr2and so on.
02:18.37cr2what is the file name ?
02:18.49dcordes_ATDbg0.txt
02:18.54cr2ok.
02:19.30dcordes_is imei a huge hex string?
02:19.49cr2no, 16 hex numbers or so.
02:20.24cr2AT+CRSM=220,28619,2,4,16,0200FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
02:20.31cr2this is not imei :)
02:20.32dcordes_what is Rx:+GTKI:?
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02:20.47cr2it's some wierd sim toolkit stuff.
02:20.58dcordes_that's the huge one
02:21.11cr2it uses something like uuencode.
02:21.50dcordes_3:11:5 Rx:+CME ERROR: 14\r
02:21.51dcordes_3:11:5 Tx:AT+CNUM\r
02:21.54dcordes_appear like 40 times
02:22.11cr2error 14 ? hmm.
02:22.38cr2CME ERROR: 14, SIM busy
02:22.59cr2http://www.activexperts.com/activsms/sms/gsmerrorcodes/
02:23.14dcordes_I activated the phone after boot
02:23.35cr2CME ERROR: 13    SIM failure
02:23.36dcordes_3:12:49 Rx:+COPS: 0,0,"T-Mobile Deutsch",3\r\n0\r
02:23.45cr2that's ok.
02:24.08cr2lol. 16char limit.
02:24.51dcordes_I wonder what the gps thingies are now
02:24.54dcordes_if any
02:25.25cr2do you see some NMEA strings ?
02:25.42cr2they may be on another mux channel though.
02:26.32dcordes_I've seen nmea strings before from gps mouses but don't looks like there are any
02:27.07dcordes_I did not find any satellites though
02:28.16cr2ok.
02:28.45dcordes_is there a string I can look for?
02:28.52dcordes_"nmea" is not present
02:28.53cr2on a780 the gps data is not nmea, and is send on a different channel. so it's not surprising that i don't see it.
02:29.00cr2PVT
02:29.18cr2GLL
02:29.37dcordes_no pvt, gll
02:29.58dcordes_so it does not go through at commands?
02:30.05BabelOgood night
02:30.09cr2[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver]
02:30.09cr2<PROTECTED>
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02:30.17cr2BabelO: good night.
02:30.50cr2<PROTECTED>
02:30.50cr2<PROTECTED>
02:31.10cr2but it's all virtual.
02:31.31dcordes_good night BabelO
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02:32.18cr2[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer\ActiveDevice]
02:32.18cr2<PROTECTED>
02:33.01cr2$GPGSV,1,1,00*79
02:33.01cr2$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
02:33.01cr2$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
02:33.02cr2$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
02:33.02cr2$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E
02:33.19dcordes_is that on a780?
02:34.22cr2no.
02:34.26cr2kaiser.
02:34.35cr2it seems that it goes over TAI
02:34.44cr2will be a PITA ;)
02:34.57dcordes_TAI?
02:34.59cr2because it's some DMA over shared memory.
02:35.52dcordes_what'S tai?
02:35.57cr2it's some qualcomm phone api.
02:36.04cr2don't know exactly.
02:36.26cr2bluetooth uses something like that too.
02:36.37cr2which is also a serial port.
02:36.55cr2the titan page had some good hints.
02:37.40cr20x003axxxx      Tai
02:37.57dcordes_did you see mr welte's kaiser photos? He said he opened it and took pictures of the boards
02:38.25cr2no, but i didn't find anything new in his blog.
02:38.51cr2brf6300 and wl1251, that was known without opening the phone.
02:39.18cr2and the rest is on the undocumented qualcomm chips.
02:39.35cr2should not be expensive to produce :)
02:39.42cr2unlike the athena.
02:40.03cr2which has ungodly amount of different nice external chips.
02:40.08dcordes_what do you mean should not be expensive to produce?
02:40.14cr2kaiser.
02:40.29cr2it's more or less a single-chip device.
02:40.34dcordes_oh ok
02:40.48cr2that's why htc switches to it.
02:40.54dcordes_so the connection between the different parts of hardware is less device specific
02:41.06dcordes_yea I noticed all recent models are msm*
02:42.08cr2athena should be _much_ more expensive to produce.
02:42.21cr2but i don't really see it in the retail price.
02:43.07cr2ok, good night :)
02:43.13dcordes_maybe that's the result of the "many chip solutions" being cheaper parts wise
02:43.29cr2don't think so.
02:44.09dcordes_hm nevermind
02:44.26cr2ok. till tomorrow. heh. today ;)
02:44.44dcordes_almost 4
02:45.02dcordes_till today then
02:45.03dcordes_good night
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05:23.55Pryangpe looks compile on gentoo
05:24.12Pryanbut opie is unable to compile do to package failures
05:24.23Pryanit hasnt Makefiles needed
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08:31.44Pryani pH5
08:39.46pH5hej Pryan
09:17.36Pryanph5 im experimenting to use gentoo
09:17.40Pryanon pda
09:18.02Pryancompilling gpe and opie
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09:28.23Pryangoxboxlive
09:28.27Pryanhello
09:28.54goxboxlivehi
09:29.01Pryanwhat desktop manager do you use ?
09:29.04Pryanopie ?
09:29.17pH5Pryan: some russian guys are trying the same on hx4700: http://pda.gentoo.ru/
09:29.20goxboxlivePryan: where, on my devices?
09:29.26pH5hi goxboxlive
09:29.43Pryanyeah, i will be based on they work
09:29.54Pryanhis stage4
09:29.59goxboxlivehi pH5
09:30.10Pryantuned up to work with my phone
09:30.20Pryangoxboxlive yes, in your device
09:32.53Pryana doubt, with opie you only can install aplications with ipkg
09:33.19Pryanbut with gpe you can install aplications with the pakage manager ?
09:33.29Pryanof the distribution
09:35.27goxboxlivePryan: you can use ipkg with every image. I am not using my devices daily, but my fav. is Qtopia and Opie i think.
09:35.56Pryanaham
09:36.20Pryani must see how qtopia installs
09:36.35Pryanbecause in my PC it's only a mobile phone
09:36.49Pryanthat it do nothing
09:45.06goxboxlivepH5: we should have the same for magician and the other htc devices: http://pda.gentoo.ru/images/bootldr.jpg
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09:47.35pH5goxboxlive: nice indeed. but only fun with >= wm5 devices
09:48.00goxboxliveyes thats true
09:49.00Pryancompiling of opie is ok atm
09:49.15Pryancompilling of gpe gives more problems
09:49.26Pryanbut i think it is usefull
09:49.33Pryanlets see
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11:28.12imanexopenmoko doesnt boot on htc-beetles
11:28.18imanexjust for peoples information
11:28.23imanexi dun think has enough ram
11:33.15goxboxliveimanex: How much ram does beetles have
11:33.26goxboxliveA780 has 48MB and it runs well
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12:02.35goxboxlivepH5: have you done any firther work with the booloader for BA/Ma
12:05.37pH5goxboxlive: for MA I have tried adding support u-boot, but it still hangs somewhere. for BA I first need a usb cable
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12:23.00goxboxlivepH5:  ok
12:26.49goxboxliveAnyone know if there is possible to mount a jffs2 image?
12:33.16pH5goxboxlive: yes. I used root=/dev/mtdblock3 rootfstype=jffs2
12:34.10pH5if you want to loop-mount it, use mtdram
12:34.19goxboxlivepH5: on your computer? I just want to look inside a jffs2 image. and i am trying to do it like this:
12:34.30goxboxlivecentrino:/home/jrs/ficgta01# mount -t jffs2 -o loop qtopia-rootfs.2-11270550.jffs2 /media/usbdisk-2/
12:34.30goxboxlivemount: unknown filesystem type 'jffs2'
12:35.48goxboxliveahh i can use dd
12:36.18goxboxlivehmm no i cant
12:36.46pH5CONFIG_MTD_MTDRAM=m
12:38.06pH5in new kernels there is also BLOCK2MTD, maybe you can do a image -> loop block -> block2mtd -> jffs2 mount.
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12:58.10ymerejtgoxboxlive, you have a universal right ?
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13:12.59pH5ymerejt: yes he has
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13:30.28dcordeshey
13:30.38pH5hej dcordes
13:30.44dcordeshi pH5
13:30.45ymerejthi
13:30.53dcordesI like the grub on the russian guy's hx
13:31.35dcordessomebody knows russian? I wonder if they go further yet
13:33.23ymerejtI'm looking for the best Linux distribution choice to run qtopia on my universal.
13:33.32ymerejtI want it to be upgradable
13:33.46ymerejtI will package my own kernel and my own qtpioa release
13:34.01ymerejtCould you advice me to make the best choice
13:34.13ymerejtI think there is debian-arm something
13:34.18ymerejtIs it a good choice
13:34.30ymerejtWhat the good and bad properties of the familiar ?
13:35.51ymerejtWhat are you using on your phone ?
13:36.03dcordesymerejt, what about the images on linuxtogo?
13:36.34ymerejtI'm looking for a more traditionnal model
13:36.43ymerejtWith standard package update
13:36.58ymerejtI want more flexibility
13:39.42ymerejtNobody here use a more traditionnal approach ?
13:47.18dcordestraditional? you are speaking of rpm or dpkg with a huge repository?
13:47.32dcordespossibly you want to try either an openmoko or angstrom system
13:49.53dcordesboth have a wide range of installable packages
13:53.34dcordesymerejt, have you tried http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/OpenMoko/Openmoko-Linux.cab ?
13:53.50ymerejtyes
13:54.17dcordesdidn't the available openmoko packages sufice?
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14:01.40Pryanwell, i have gpe half compiled, so how i launch the general window manager ?
14:05.15ymerejtit could be enough
14:05.50Pryanah ok
14:05.51ymerejtBut I only to run Qtopia. So maybe with openmoko base package there is already too much components isn't ?
14:05.59BabelOpH5: if you are around, what i need for this down(&clocks_sem)
14:06.03Pryanthere is no login mnager ?
14:06.09Pryanmanager ?
14:08.28pH5BabelO: context? clocks_sem is a semaphore to lock some memory access.
14:10.03BabelOpH5: yes, sorry, i know it is to lock before doing something, i have an error on this with git kernel tree, it say not defined
14:10.24BabelOpH5: it is in mach-pxa/clock.c
14:11.44pH5I think the semaphore in clocks.c was converted to a mutex, up/down(&clocks_sem) --> mutex_lock/unlock(&clocks_mutex)
14:12.13BabelOpH5: thx, i check this way
14:12.17dcordesPryan: depends on what gentoo installed you there. Did it create an Xsession?
14:12.40dcordesPryan: gpe consits of matchbox-desktop matchbox-panel etc
14:12.51dcordesthey have to be ran inside an xsession
14:13.00pH5bbl
14:13.26dcordescr2: ping
14:14.22ymerejtcr2 is sleeping I think
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14:16.26Pryanok dcordes
14:18.21Pryanwhat package we must to install to have /opt/Qtopia/bin/qpe ?
14:25.23dcordesI never tried qtopia Pryan, sorry
14:25.30Pryanok
14:33.41dcordesPryan: where can I get qtopia buildsystem?
14:35.04Pryanwww.qtopia.net
14:35.23Pryanbut im trying to get qtopia working but dont
14:36.55dcordesPryan: what's your machine?
14:37.06Pryanx86_64
14:37.46dcordesoh they only have 3 machine types
14:38.04dcordesI thought I could build for my Zaurus
14:38.15dcordesI will stick with openemebddded
14:39.15Pryanaham
14:39.53BabelOKevin2: are you around, i notice some change
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16:25.22Kevin2BabelO: Yes.
16:25.39BabelOKevin2: i pull again work tree
16:25.59Kevin2BabelO: I fixed clocks stuff - it even boots for me on Apache - resynch your "work" branch.
16:25.59BabelOKevin2: just finishing compiling it , but there is wroking on pda_udc
16:26.24Kevin2?
16:26.38BabelOKevin2: did you fix mmc too ? just replace protocols by sd.h
16:26.47BabelOKevin2: between 'pda_udc_probe' and 'pda_udc_command'
16:27.09BabelOwait i paste the full message
16:27.46BabelOKevin2: http://pastebin.com/m6f5554b9
16:28.30BabelOi resynchro my tree
16:28.36Kevin2Yeah, I get these on Apache and Hermes.  It didn't stop Apache from booting.  I don't know what it is yet.
16:29.01BabelOok so i ll try like it is before i resynchro
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16:36.04BabelOKevin2: mine does not boot :(
16:36.40Kevin2BabelO: It just hangs without any status messages?
16:46.42BabelOKevin2: it just display Kernel jump from haret
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16:49.45BabelOKevin2: exact message is Jumping to Kernel...
16:50.16Kevin2BabelO: Hrmm.  I don't know.  Do you have a way of getting early serial messages?
16:50.35BabelOno i ve only usb cradle
16:50.38Minequecya guys
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16:50.52BabelOi have to do like before ;) with vibra
16:51.25Kevin2Someone had a patch that allows the early messages to go to framebuffer.
16:51.53MichouX|NABabelO: hey, cr2 told me you could have a qtopia device profile for blueangel, to you ?
16:51.57MichouX|NAdo you ?
16:52.30BabelOMichouX|NA: yes look at http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa
16:53.03BabelOMichouX|NA: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/O.P.I.E-II/
17:00.32ymerejtgoxboxlive, are you around ? I got a problem with your qtopia image ;)
17:07.37ymerejtI have resolved it
17:08.57ymerejtHi MichouX
17:15.02Pryanymerejt i will do the things right
17:15.14Pryani will emulate arm on my desktop
17:15.31Pryanand try to install a stage3
17:15.37Pryanwith OE
17:15.38ymerejtgood lucj
17:15.39ymerejtluck
17:16.15Pryanyeah
17:16.45Pryanif i got luck there will be usefull to all phones
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17:46.28cr2hi
17:47.00cr2pH5: the docking station lies on my table, i'll send it tomorrow morning.
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17:54.07dcordescr2, ping
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18:06.15rakeemYay!  I love Hong Kong...!  I was able to swap my used BA with toasted USB port for another one...  I'm now the most stable build I've ever had.  8-]
18:08.39Kevin2cr2: Do you recall how the hermes serial ports are used?
18:09.13dcordeshey rakeem
18:10.00rakeemHiya...
18:10.12Kevin2Ughh.  What's the trick to get rid of: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
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18:11.02rakeemWent past the same shop today and the dude had another BA in the window.  Gave hime the international sign-language and soundeffects for dodgy connector and he exchanged it... Sweet huh?
18:11.50rakeemKevin:  I think it's an erroneous entry in your inittab...
18:12.47Kevin2rakeem: I'm not running an inittab.  I'm just launch /bin/sh, and I have console=tty0 in my kernel cmdline.
18:13.33rakeemKernel cmds from Haret?
18:13.39Kevin2Yes
18:14.06pH5Kevin2: rootfs missing some /dev/tty?
18:14.32rakeemBeyond me....
18:14.35pH5or initramfs for that matter
18:14.36Kevin2pH5: Looks okay to me.
18:14.57rakeem...but that reminds me, Kevin2...
18:15.26cr2Kevin2: i think i've put the comments into htchermes.c ?
18:15.57pH5cr2: I hope it won't get lost/delayed in the pre-christmas shipping frenzy :)
18:16.16Kevin2cr2: Yes, thanks.
18:16.24cr2Kevin2: but i couldn't undestand the clock setup ;)
18:16.35cr2pH5: let's hope.
18:17.09rakeemcr2:  I had a scan round for a Wallaby today too, but nothing.  I'll be up in the main geeksville later this week though...
18:17.24cr2pH5: it will certainly not be lost here on my side
18:17.58cr2rakeem: ok, that'll be fun
18:18.16Kevin2rakeem: reminds you..
18:18.34rakeemKevin2:  Any progress with the Grand Unified Keyboard Driver?  &-)
18:19.05Kevin2Heh.  No.  I'm working on porting hermes up to v2.6.23.  So, keyboard is on hold for now.
18:19.28rakeemcr2:  If I may, why the interest in The Progenator?
18:20.38cr2rakeem: to have a complete cpu line :)  sa1110 too.
18:20.58Kevin2I just booted v2.6.23-hh19 on hermes!
18:21.21cr2Kevin2: will you merge the moko1/2 patches too ?
18:21.58rakeemKevin2:  8'-(  Does that mean 'bumped back a space' or 'falling-off-the-bottom-of-the-list' in terms of priorites?
18:23.20Kevin2rakeem: It's still high on the list.  But I can't say when I'll get to it.
18:23.27pH5Kevin2: shouldn't that be hh0/1? congrats!
18:23.35rakeemcr2:  Ah, quite...  The old "full set" dialectic...  You deserve it...
18:23.56rakeem...in a glass case...
18:24.32dcordescr2, can we make up a topoly display driver for kaiser?
18:25.04rakeemKevin2:  I should really stop procrastinating and get my hands dirty myself...  Mind if I ask you a couple of broad questions on the topic?
18:25.34Kevin2Go ahead.
18:26.24cr2dcordes: if you want to fry it, then yes :)
18:26.57dcordes:( so we lack information?
18:27.18cr2dcordes: i'm looking for the wince display driver. the data in wiki is from SPL
18:27.21rakeem1.  Is a keyboard driver more complicated than it looks (scanning & interrupts?)
18:27.53cr2dcordes: do you have 'lsmod' output somewhere ?
18:28.00rakeem2.  What language is normally(?) used for driver dev?  C?
18:28.03Kevin2rakeem: No, it is very simple.  The only complication is interfacing with the spi chip in such a way that it can be used on many different platforms.
18:28.09cr2rakeem: the keyboard itself is simple
18:28.10dcordescr2, nope I will get it
18:28.22Kevin2rakeem: Always C.  It is kernel code.
18:28.37Kevin2Ughh.  v2.6.23 still has the same problem with lost usb interrupts.
18:28.57dcordescr2, btw as long as I keep everything suspicious on sd I don't think it will be a problem replacing kaiser in case of fry
18:29.20cr2dcordes: ok.
18:29.50cr2Kevin2: look at the moko patches. there is some fix for usb problems. and also for the mmc/sd problem.
18:30.31cr2Kevin2: htchermes_uartcfgs[] has all descriptions.
18:30.31rakeemKevin2:  So is it {Scan -> Interrupt -> Read value -> Pass to SPI -> Scan}?
18:31.05cr2rakeem: Press -> Interrupt -> Read from SPI
18:31.09Kevin2rakeem: Interrupt -> read spi -> decode -> send to input layer
18:31.45rakeemDecode?  Mux
18:31.46rakeem?
18:32.20Kevin2You get an id code from spi, you need to look up a keycode from it, and then hand the keycode to the input layer.
18:32.39Kevin2cr2: Yes - the reason hermes wasn't booting is early log messages were going to bluetooth.
18:32.57rakeemYou reckon a keyboard driver is a do-able-1st-time kernel project?
18:33.28rakeemSo you just reference a lookup table?
18:33.31Kevin2rakeem: I don't know your skill level - anything is possible.
18:34.02dcordescr2, is lsmod something for xda wiki?
18:34.22cr2dcordes: yes, why not.
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18:35.08cr2rakeem: the problem is that we have already done all the easy things in the kernel :)
18:35.28rakeemHmmm....  Skill level...   Lots of compiling other people's stuff...
18:36.34rakeemcr2:  Nicely put.  If it falls out of you guys definition of "easy stuff" I'll wait...  Is there anything I might try tweaking in the existing BA driver to help stability?
18:38.08Kevin2pH5: I guess it will become v2.6.23-ltg0
18:38.29cr2rakeem: it needs to be split into 2 parts: the asic3-spi driver, and the generic spi part.
18:38.45dcordescr2, http://pastebin.ca/818992 sorry something is wrong with the wiki
18:39.27Kevin2cr2 / bd2 / pH5: I'm concerned about the quality of the hh.org kernel code.  It has a whole bunch of random patches from all over.  It's not clear to me if it is worthwhile to continue down that path.
18:39.37cr2rakeem: Kevin2 on hermes has s3c2442-spi driver + generic spi. when he will be ready, it's only the asic3-spi part that needs to be done in a way how the asic3_mmc driver is written.
18:39.42rakeemcr2:  <Puke> *-0
18:40.12Kevin2cr2: The openmoko patches sound good, but I'm not sure on importing a whole bunch of new patches into the tree as it currently is.
18:40.36cr2Kevin2: i don't think we need to take care about the ipaq stuff.
18:41.03cr2Kevin2: then you should go the moko way of the single OE patch directory.
18:41.14rakeemcr2:  Right...  Then Uni's BA's and any other ASIC3 devices get sorted together?
18:41.41pH5Kevin2: I don't think trying to merge *everything* is a good idea. But just cherry-picking the parts we actually need and following the hh.org cvs in a separate branch is the easiest way not to lose important hh.org bits.
18:42.39dcordeslol why does wince load bluetooth related modules while bt is off?
18:42.55Kevin2pH5: Yeah - that is why I did all my changes on "work" instead of "master".  I think "master" should just pull known good stuff.
18:44.44pH5Kevin2: good. that and known-bad-but-needed stuff like the pxa27x udc drivers. today I again ran against a wall trying to clean it up into something presentable to mainline. still much to learn, I guess..
18:45.25cr2pH5: we need some reference device done right. hx4700 for example. it will then force the asic3 driver cleanup.
18:45.28Kevin2pH5: I haven't looked at it that much, but should there be two separate drivers - one for pxa2xx and one for pxa27x?
18:46.09pH5Kevin2: I've tried to adapt pxa27x to the pxa25x structure. maybe they can share common backends, but the controllers are really quite different.
18:46.16cr2Kevin2: i think yes. the pxa27x_udc should be careful not to smash the host port P2.
18:46.24pH5(different quirks, register layout, sram allocation, etc.)
18:46.48Kevin2Ok - it isn't clear from looking at the code because so much was copy and pasted.
18:47.37Pryancr2 do you have here a kernel compiled for athena ?
18:47.48pH5Kevin2: I'll continue with my cleanup, but that will certainly take more time.
18:48.10ymerejtIs someone could help to build qtopia in order to work on the htc universal profile ?
18:49.19cr2pH5: what do you think about asic3 ? i'm facing the same design issues with w228x. moko s-media patch looks good by its design, but it is very incomplete :(
18:50.02cr2ymerejt: you should follow the documented steps for moko1 phone
18:50.28cr2ymerejt: and then copy-hack the qualcomm driver instead.
18:51.03ymerejtsomeone (I don't remember who) give me his htcphone profile
18:51.48dcordescr2, what's the purpose of the lsmod? Shall I dump display specific modules?
18:52.06cr2dcordes: no. i'm looking at the lsmod list.
18:52.10ymerejtBut I'm running the ficgta01 profile and except for the GSM part which bug It works fine, very fine
18:52.53cr2ymerejt: hehe. because the only moko-specific part is the GSM ;)
18:53.01ymerejtAnd of course I don't have battery monitoring
18:53.18Pryancr2 do you have here the kernel ?
18:53.39ymerejtThe sound does not work too
18:53.56cr2ymerejt: yes, that's something to be resolved once and forever. there is no excuse for not doing it right for all devices, because they all use pda_power now.
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18:54.13cr2Pryan: yes, but it boots off the USB stick.
18:54.42Pryanpass it to me, i want to make some test
18:54.52Pryanand maybe buy the cable
18:55.01Pryanbut first make test on pc
18:55.19Pryanwait 1 minute, go searching it
18:55.19cr2Pryan: it's an autoboot .exe file
18:55.30Pryanahm, then nothing
18:55.38Pryani want the zImage
18:56.32cr2Pryan: ok, then i need to rebuild the kernel.
18:56.58pH5cr2: hm. about asic3 I think it should be cleaned up, rebased against gpiolib/gpio_desc and resubmitted to lak. I haven't looked at the glamo patches.
18:57.17ymerejtcr2, where are the documented steps ?
18:57.21ymerejton qtopia.net ?
18:57.30cr2ymerejt: i think yes.
19:00.41goxboxliveymerejt: what is the problem
19:01.04Kevin2cr2 / pH5 : Do either of you have a simple example of using spi?
19:01.12ymerejtI want to init my qtopia dev environnement
19:01.31ymerejtI have download the source
19:01.33goxboxliveok
19:01.34ymerejtI tried to compile
19:01.50ymerejtBut it failed on alsa
19:02.00cr2Kevin2: i think pH5 had written the tsc2046 patch using generic pxa2xx-spi ?
19:02.02goxboxlivewith configure or compiling?
19:02.14ymerejtthat's what it says but I think the problem relative to the missing qmake command
19:02.19Pryancr2 dont you have a .config file for kernel ?
19:02.22ymerejtconfigure
19:02.32goxboxliveymerejt: ok, what toolchain are you using?
19:02.45ymerejtarm920t-eabi-ficgta01-toolchain.tgz
19:02.49pH5cr2: no, I tried to use the ads7846 spi driver on magician, but I never got it to work.
19:02.55goxboxliveymerejt: ok, where did you extract it?
19:02.57pH5I haven't looked at SPI since.
19:03.08ymerejtlocaly
19:03.13cr2Pryan: i have a heavily patched kernel for athena. .config alone will not help you. btw, the .config is already in hh.org CVS as htcathena_defconfig
19:03.17goxboxliveymerejt: path?
19:03.22ymerejtand after I have mv  the internal directories to /opt
19:03.29goxboxliveok
19:03.34Pryanah ok
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19:03.54ymerejtso in opt I have : arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi  bin  i686-linux  include  lib  libexec  share
19:04.13goxboxliveso the toolchain is extracted to /opt/Qtopia/blabla
19:04.22ymerejtnop
19:04.31ymerejtin opt
19:04.36goxboxliveopt/toolchain om mean
19:04.42goxboxlives/om/i/
19:04.58ymerejtls /opt : arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi  bin  i686-linux  include  lib  libexec  share
19:05.40goxboxliveok, thats why you have problem with configure. SOmehow in the source there is a hardcoding to the toolchain. You should do it like this
19:06.15ymerejtI think I need to build qtopia-core before
19:06.36goxboxliveexport PATH=/opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin:$PATH
19:07.19goxboxliveymerejt: Yes, but thats done automaticly
19:07.46goxboxlivewhen you run make it starts with qtopiamake and then core and the the rest
19:07.49Kevin2pH5: Do you know what the irq member of spi_board_info is for?
19:07.57goxboxliveor something like that
19:07.58ymerejtqtopia-core will provide qmake ?
19:08.22goxboxliveymerejt: i think so, or it is included in the source.
19:08.26cr2Kevin2: i think there is something in Documentation/* about spi.
19:08.33Pryanyes, but if you use cvs version you dont need qmake
19:08.36ymerejtIt's not included in my source
19:09.00ymerejtIf you have other and more easier source I want it !
19:09.22Kevin2cr2: Been there.
19:09.30goxboxliveymerejt: i am using the regular one
19:09.39ymerejtlink?
19:10.21dcordescr2, does the lsmod carry the information you looked for?
19:10.51goxboxliveuseally the source is located here, ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/ but it's downfor the moment nwo. But you can use this ones: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/tech-preview/
19:11.30ymerejtShould I take the preview or normal tarball ?
19:11.58goxboxlivedoesnt mather. The preview is older
19:12.27cr2Kevin2: looking at drivers/spi/pxa2xx_spi.c . it seems that the irq is handled internally.
19:13.31ymerejtI'm downloading it
19:13.43ymerejtWhen it done, I extract it
19:13.56ymerejtinstall my htcphone source in devices
19:14.04ymerejtcreate a depot directory
19:14.29ymerejtand from it run the configure script with -device htcphone option
19:15.51goxboxliveymerejt: yes, but the option isent needed, you can put the option in to the localy configure file
19:17.34Pryansee ya
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19:19.20ymerejtgoxboxlive, I based my work on your image
19:19.41ymerejtI'm using your rootfs extracted from your last cab file
19:20.20goxboxliveymerejt: to build Qtopia??? why are you doing that?
19:20.32ymerejtNot to build qtopia
19:20.42ymerejtto install qtopia on
19:21.46cr2Pryan: compiled
19:22.13goxboxliveok
19:22.19paulproteusGood morning, everyone!
19:22.27goxboxlivepaulproteus: hi
19:27.51ymerejtChecking the compiler (host): OK (GCC 4)
19:27.51ymerejtChecking the compiler (target): OK (GCC 4)
19:27.51ymerejtTesting for qmake behaviors: NONE
19:27.51ymerejtTesting for ALSA: FAIL
19:27.51ymerejtERROR: You requested -sound_system=s but it was disabled.
19:27.51ymerejtmake: *** [src/build/mkconf/configure] Erreur 2
19:29.41ymerejtif I remove the -device option
19:29.45ymerejtthere is no problem
19:29.47ymerejt...
19:31.16ymerejtOnce the qmake command will created I will retry
19:31.19ymerejt;)
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19:35.55ymerejtQtopia has some problem with the sound server. Is it a qptopia problem or a phone related bug ?
19:41.24ymerejtgoxboxlive,
19:41.31ymerejtYou build it without any option
19:41.36ymerejt?
19:41.56goxboxliveymerejt: this is my configure file
19:42.19ymerejtthen you are not linked with dbus, alsa, ...etc
19:43.25goxboxlivehttp://pastebin.ca/819090
19:45.24ymerejtIs the sound playing work on your phone running this qtopia ?
19:46.25ymerejtgoxboxlive,
19:47.10goxboxliveymerejt: with helix yes, but latest snapshot failes configure with helix
19:47.19goxboxliveuse cruxus instead
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20:09.00ymerejtgoxboxlive
20:09.02ymerejtit works fine ?
20:10.12ymerejtgoxboxlive, is this media engine available on the angstrom distribution ?
20:13.40goxboxliveymerejt: No i cant get cruxus work
20:13.51ymerejtand gstreamer ?
20:14.03goxboxliveIt hasnet anything to do with angstrom or familiar distro
20:14.23goxboxliveI have never managed to build with gstreamer
20:29.55ymerejtgoxboxlive, How many time your universal could stay on suspend mode ?
20:30.38goxboxliveymerejt: for how long you mean? I think about 4-5 hours
20:30.48ymerejtyeah
20:31.04ymerejteven when the kernel is on suspend ?
20:31.48goxboxliveyes, but with it susoending you cant get incomming call because it doesnt wake up. So you have to have it running, and i guess the battery wil drainout in about 2-3 hours with modem running
20:33.03ymerejtBut I have a kernel patch and now my phone wake up on incoming call
20:33.33ymerejtBut, like you, my battery life is short on suspend which is not normal
20:33.37ymerejtI don't understand why
20:33.47ymerejtsomething is not shutdown I guess
20:35.08ymerejtcr2, any comment about the battery problem even when the phone is suspended ?
20:36.19goxboxliveymerejt: why isent the patch commited to kernel tree?
20:36.51ymerejtbecause I have to improve it. To do that I need some test and at home I only have one phone ;)
20:37.10goxboxliveymerejt: ok i c.
20:37.21goxboxlivecant you use skype?
20:37.44ymerejtmaybe but I don't want to pay ;)
20:37.49goxboxlive:-)
20:38.19goxboxliveymerejt: have you tested it with Qtopia?
20:38.50ymerejtyes
20:39.01goxboxlivedoes it wake up on incomming call?
20:39.11ymerejtyes and on incoming SMS too
20:39.28goxboxlivewow, send me the pathch so i can test a little. I have several phones :-)
20:39.58paulproteusymerejt, You should make your own git kernel tree and then goxboxlive could pull from there. (-:
20:40.05ymerejtthe current patch I have is the improved version. Not tested so it could not work ;)
20:40.26goxboxlivewell we never know until it is tested :-)
20:40.39goxboxlivemy email is my irc name "at" gmail "dot" com
20:45.40ymerejtsended
20:45.56ymerejtgoxboxlive, I'm waiting for your test result
20:46.09goxboxlivethanks i let you know
20:50.43paulproteusymerejt, What exactly are you running on your Universal?
20:50.56paulproteusI'm also interested in testing, but I haven't built my own image yet.
20:51.32ymerejtI'm running the qtopia rootfs provide by goxboxlive (I suppose) and my own kernel
20:51.48goxboxlivecompiling
20:51.53ymerejt;)
20:51.57paulproteusymerejt, If you give me the binaries I can surely test them.
20:52.00ymerejtand i'm compiling qtopia
20:52.14paulproteusAlternately if you explain how to build a kernel like yours (I'll pay attention this time!), I can build it myself.
20:52.33paulproteusHmm, it seems the bitbake console-image I did a day ago finished; now I just need to find out where it put the image.
20:52.45goxboxliveymerejt: so it configure now, what did you have to do to have it configure?
20:53.00goxboxlivepaulproteus: check our wiki site, i have made a HOWTO there
20:53.06ymerejtgoxboxlive, nothing more than usual
20:53.12ymerejthtcuniversal_defconfig
20:53.18paulproteusgoxboxlive, Which page...? (URL?)
20:53.21goxboxliveymerejt: qtopia, not kernel
20:53.27ymerejtyeah ;)
20:53.54ymerejtremove the last line on htcphone/configure
20:53.54goxboxlivepaulproteus: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel
20:54.08paulproteusgoxboxlive, Awesome, thanks.
20:54.34paulproteusgoxboxlive, Hah, what a hacky non-bitbake method I see you have.
20:54.53cr2ymerejt: it's difficult to say what's going on with asic3 subsystems while suspend, because the code is a big mess ;)
20:55.36ymerejtcr2, Well I can add some printk to see
20:55.49ymerejtBut IMHO something is not shutting down
20:55.58cr2ymerejt: i think that the asic3-pwm channels are not "suspended", because some zaurus kernel uses them.
20:56.17goxboxlivecr2: cant we have our own?
20:56.22cr2ymerejt: the real asic3 clock management is non-existant
20:57.23cr2ymerejt: you should check what's going on with asic3-w1 (ds1wm), and if it continues to monitor the battery.
20:57.58cr2goxboxlive: that's the problem. if we will fix universal, many other asic3-dependent devices will break.
20:58.05ymerejton my device it never monitor my battery ;)
20:58.09diogene31Good evening everyone. Is anyone at ease with ffuart debugging under haret ?
20:58.24paulproteuscr2, Couldn't we just check the hardware type at kernel start time?
20:58.26goxboxlivecr2: But can t we have our own asic3 like we have for phone and such?
20:58.33cr2diogene31: read apachephonetrace hh.org wiki page
20:59.04cr2paulproteus: it's already done.
20:59.36cr2goxboxlive: we can. but then we will effectively have our own kernel.
20:59.44paulproteuscr2, Okay, so why would what we do for Universal necessarily break other hardware?
21:00.07cr2goxboxlive: then it's better just to cleanup the htcuni.patch for .24-* in OE.
21:00.19goxboxlivecr2: ok i c
21:00.24diogene31cr2, Thank you, that I did. It doesn't behave exactly like I expected (0x4010000 changes not seen)
21:01.03cr2paulproteus: the asic3_base module exports too many lowlevel functions, which are used by some devices.
21:01.17cr2diogene31: what device do you have ?
21:02.11diogene31Ah, good guess, it's not HTC, it's MIO A701. I've developped 2 kernel modules (1 for BT, 1 for GSM), and the GSM one gives me some ... stress.
21:02.45cr2goxboxlive: it seems that we don't have any other choice anyway.
21:03.26cr2diogene31: is the hh.org wiki for A701 up-to-date ?
21:04.03goxboxlivecr2: ok
21:04.29diogene31cr2, No, I'm not the owner/maintainer, and I've been working on my pocket only for a few days.
21:05.02ymerejtgoxboxlive, did the patch I give you fix the bug ?
21:05.04paulproteusymerejt, CVS of the hh.org kernel checked out; now where's your patch? (-:
21:05.14ymerejtin your mail box
21:05.29paulproteusymerejt, I didn't tell you my email address!
21:05.30cr2diogene31: this wiki is public.
21:05.46ymerejtof course
21:05.47paulproteusymerejt, Could you pastebin.com it?
21:06.04goxboxliveymerejt: i am just finish compiling.
21:06.30ymerejtpaulproteus, please wait the first goxboxlive test
21:06.48diogene31cr2, I'll update it shortly. Meanwhile, do you have experience in UART tracing ?
21:06.52ymerejtIf it work, I send you the patch
21:06.52paulproteusymerejt, Aww, okay fine.
21:07.27ymerejtMy qtopia build failed on lXtst link issue
21:07.34cr2diogene31: yes, it worked for GSM and for BT on pxa27x
21:07.38ymerejtgoxboxlive, any idea to solve it
21:07.48cr2ymerejt: Xtst for qtopia ??
21:07.59cr2diogene31: Analog Baseband - "Syren A07" ?
21:08.08ymerejtAh that what I think too. Crasy ;)
21:08.11cr2diogene31: it's the same as on omap850 ?
21:08.34ymerejtBut yes it want to link to
21:08.41cr2diogene31: how are the pxa serial ports assigned ?
21:08.57diogene31cr2, Yes, Syren A07. And I didn't check the omap 850.
21:09.29diogene31cr2, Serial ports are assigned as : FFUART=GSM, BTUART=Bluetooth, STUART=<I don't know>
21:10.38diogene31cr2, My issue is when I peek the address 0x40010000, I see the changes. When I add it to the mmutrace, I don't ...
21:11.07diogene31cr2, And of course, I'm not quick enough to see all the protocol exchange.
21:11.29cr2diogene31: which size do you set for mmutrace ?
21:12.03diogene31cr2, For 0x4001000, 32 bytes (should cover all FFUART address space)
21:12.33cr2addlist mmutrace p2v(0x40100000) 32
21:12.39cr2401 not 4001
21:12.49diogene31cr2, Exactly what I wrote.\
21:13.03cr2ffuart is at p2v(0x40100000)
21:13.07diogene31cr2, I made a typo here, not in my haret.
21:13.11cr2ok.
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21:13.50cr2diogene31: well, you can try the old gnu-haret instead ;)
21:14.03cr2the syntax is a bit different though.
21:14.23cr2diogene31: what is the p2v(0x40100000) ?
21:15.06goxboxliveymerejt: have you also noticed that the kerboard isent working well after suspend? It repeats itself and has a big delay sometimes.We should also have that fixed
21:15.25cr2diogene31: hh.org wiki says ""
21:15.28cr2The GSM Chipset (Sagem XS200) is connected through the "STD" serial port.
21:15.30goxboxliveok lets suspend
21:15.35cr2which is STUART
21:15.39diogene31cr2, In the MIO, it's 0xa6600000
21:16.24cr2ok.
21:16.29ymerejtgoxboxlive, yes, I think so. But now, I want to fix my qtopia damn build and the power consumption issue
21:16.33diogene31cr2, Yes, I know. But having traced by peeking the FFUART, I saw the AT phone related commands. That's why I must trace them properly to have a proof.
21:17.09cr2diogene31: ok, then try gnu-haret. i know that it works on universal and blueangel.
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21:17.41cr2http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret
21:17.45goxboxliveymerejt: please consider power issue first. We have allready a working qtopia image. We can improve it later, when we have the kernel working better
21:18.00x_Brucehello
21:18.25ymerejtbut the current qtopia which I'm using is build for gta01 and use bad AT commands
21:18.29ymerejtI want to improve it
21:18.42diogene31cr2, Ok, thanks, I'll go for a try.
21:19.12goxboxliveymerejt: The modem works after resume, but i doesnt resume on incomming calls
21:19.29goxboxliveI have to manually wake it up with powerbutton,
21:19.48cr2diogene31: 'set trace' and 'set tracemask'
21:19.53ymerejtgoxboxlive, so try to uncomment some lines like I told you in the mail
21:20.08goxboxliveymerejt: ok, i will
21:20.37ymerejtgoxboxlive, let me know if it works ... or not
21:21.01goxboxliveof coourse
21:21.06diogene31cr2, On my way ...
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21:23.38x_Bruceany info on the mapping of the msm7200? kaiser?
21:23.45goxboxliveymerejt: what about this?                         set_irq_type(irq, IRQT_BOTHEDGE); /\* IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_RISING); *\/
21:24.06ymerejtlet this way
21:24.31dcordescr2, did you check the lsmod yet?
21:24.35ymerejtcr2, I didn't notice something suspect in ds1wm.c
21:24.41ymerejtcr2: on suspend call
21:24.51ymerejtmaybe the clock_disable
21:25.13x_Brucehi dcordes
21:25.21cr2ymerejt: the clock can be disabled at some other place.
21:25.55ymerejtI think I will add some trace "everywhere"
21:26.14cr2dcordes: i still don't understand where is the LCD driver.
21:26.19diogene31cr2, GNU Haret hangs on my MIO, just after the console is connected.
21:26.32dcordessounds like they tried to hide it ^^
21:26.34cr2diogene31: ok, it may happen.
21:26.58cr2dcordes: mod=ddi.dll
21:27.19dcordesdirect display interface oO?
21:27.43dcordesx_Bruce, hey. what do you mean by mapping?
21:29.04x_Brucehow is the state of the memory maps
21:29.24x_Brucex_Bruce -> x_bruno
21:29.40x_Brucealmost finished my disassembler, ran into a snag
21:29.46x_Brucemy work laptop is down
21:30.35dcordesx_Bruce, didn't you bookmark the stuff? I will email you all relevant wiki entries. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap you can also search just in case
21:30.47goxboxliveymerejt: great work, now it resumes on incomming call. PLease send the patch to cr2 so he can commit it to the source. I'll test sms now
21:31.28ymerejtI need to make some other tests before
21:31.37goxboxliveok
21:32.09x_Brucethanks, dcordes, just checking if there where any news
21:32.29dcordesdepending on when you last looked at it the memory map may have many enchancements
21:33.41x_Brucecool
21:33.54x_Brucejeez, these christmas parties are taxing
21:34.12dcordes:)
21:34.18x_Brucewas away all weekend on one :-)
21:34.28x_Bruceshould definitely have more time this week
21:35.00x_Bruceok, who was that guy that took the kaiser apart and listed the chips?
21:35.08dcordesyou seem to have much spare time at broadcomm :P
21:35.19x_BruceI know :)
21:35.26x_Brucei do a bit of work there
21:35.45dcordesx_Bruce, I only know LaF0rge or however that is written openned it
21:35.52dcordesor was going to open it rather
21:35.54diogene31cr2, I'll have a go through haret sources, maybe inspiration will come. Thanks for your time.
21:35.56dcordesheard nothing from him
21:36.18dcordesx_Bruce, we are currently stuck because we do not find the display driver in windows mobile. Maybe you can help??
21:37.58ymerejtgoxboxlive, did SMS incoming resume your device too ?
21:38.19x_Brucein windows mobile, the display driver? gimme a sec
21:38.41goxboxliveymerejt: yes it wakes up, but then it goes black again. And it doenst warn me about an incomming sms. But i think that is Qtopia bug, not kernel
21:39.05dcordesx_Bruce, yes cr2 obviously can't locate it
21:39.13ymerejtyeah I think so. I have successfully made this test
21:40.32ymerejtcr2, Where can I found the asic3 specification in order to read information about suspend mode on this component ?
21:41.18x_Brucedo you know if it is all direct 3d or just something else_
21:41.20cr2ymerejt: it does not exist.
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21:42.45cr2ymerejt: i've tried to add all the data i know to ipaq-asic3.h which was provided by CPQ.
21:43.00dcordesx_Bruce, don't know what you mean. ask cr2
21:43.02goxboxlivewell for me ut's getting too late. Im up early. good night. Really fuj to have some testing again. :-)
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21:43.14cr2ymerejt: so you check its CVS history
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21:43.21jeansebBabelO, are you here ?
21:46.26Kevin2diogene31: What haret commands did you issue?
21:46.32x_Brucedcordes, cr2 it is a file called ddi.dll
21:47.07dcordes<cr2> dcordes: mod=ddi.dll that one? cr2 got it then
21:47.29dcordeshow to go on from here ^^
21:47.55cr2x_Bruce: i don't have it. can you try testwm5 ?
21:48.07cr2sorry. found it.
21:48.35x_Bruceyes
21:48.41diogene31Kevin2, addlist mmutrace p2v(0x40100000) 32, then ibit irqs 11 26, then wi 10
21:48.52x_Brucepitty
21:48.55Kevin2diogene31: Also, did you read the docs at:  http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation ?  An important thing to note is that mmutrace watches _virtual_addresses_ - so you need to make sure that you watch all mappings to the uarts.
21:49.14x_Brucetestwm5 did not extract the mmmap.dll, which is the full memory map
21:49.21Kevin2diogene31: What does "show p2v(0x40100000)" report?
21:49.37cr2Kevin2: FrameBufferUpdateThread() found
21:50.14diogene31Kevin2, 0xa6600000
21:51.05Kevin2diogene31: Hrmm.  If you do "dump mmu" can you identify all the places where physical address 0x40100000 is mapped?
21:51.30cr2diogene31: can you post the 'dump mmu' output ?
21:51.53Kevin2diogene31: Also, what version of haret are you using?
21:52.16cr2x_Bruce: what is TrsTai_extension.dll ?
21:53.20cr2x_Bruce: there is some interesting memory management stuff there, which i've never seen before. is it all DRM ? :)
21:53.34x_Brucei am still looking at it
21:54.07diogene31Kevin2, "dump mmu" will be a bit long I think. But after looking through, I see the UART address in 2 addresses : a6600000 and 86600000d
21:55.00x_BruceI don't think so
21:55.00Kevin2diogene31: There are usually cached and uncached mappings.  Generally only the uncached one is used.
21:55.00x_Brucewhat ever it is it is kaiser specific
21:55.18diogene31Kevin2, I think you pointed out the trick. WinCE is certainly writting through the over. I'll check right away.
21:56.53cr2x_Bruce: titan may be different.
21:57.10x_Brucecr2: whatever it is it is only dependant on coredll.dll
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21:57.53x_Bruceapparently it is only time stuff
21:58.01x_Brucesyncro information
21:58.25x_Brucetimer regime sec
21:59.29x_Brucetwo functions - clk_regime_sec_enable and clk_regime_sec_disable
21:59.41x_Brucecould be drm actually
22:01.23cr2x_Bruce: what is rex ?
22:02.24diogene31Kevin2, False hope. I see the FFUART and STUART irqs, I see the DMA irqs, but no writes in the UART addresses.
22:03.57x_Bruceif believe it to be the thread manager or libraries for setting threads
22:04.43cr2x_Bruce: do you see these ?
22:04.46cr2pmem_get_phys_addr
22:04.46cr2pmem_malloc
22:04.46cr2pmem_free
22:04.46cr2wce_pmem.dll
22:05.00cr2is there something special happening there ?
22:05.17x_Brucethe disassembler I have is very limited
22:05.19cr2we have some strange mmu page bits
22:05.32cr2ok, i'll look myself
22:09.21x_Bruceanything else i can help with or give a look into_
22:09.49dcordesI'm also ready for helping
22:10.05cr2hm. pmem_malloc is external
22:11.45cr2hehe. a92 and a93 are hardcoded.
22:12.35dcordesbrb
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22:15.53x_Brucecr2: any utilitie that would give me a file's memory location in rom?
22:16.43cr2x_Bruce: you may pick it from the MODULE structure, referenced by 'lsmod'
22:17.09cr2x_Bruce: look at the testwm5 source. but there are some header bugs there, unfortunately.
22:17.41x_Bruceleft testwm5 running for 1 day, did not copy it
22:19.52paulproteusymerejt, Hey, nice work with goxboxlive ACKing the patch!
22:21.14ymerejtYes, but a phone with a max life time of 6 hours is not a phone ... ;(
22:21.26paulproteusymerejt, Yes, so let's just figure out where the power is going now.
22:21.35paulproteusymerejt, Also you can triple the battery life with a 4800Mah battery (-;
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22:23.23x_Brucecr2 try looking at touch.dll
22:23.30ymerejtBut the only way I found is to check for each components  if it is correctly turn off during when going to suspend. Except for GSM part of course ;)
22:23.57ymerejtcr2, another way to figure out what's wrong ?
22:26.11cr2x_Bruce: tsc2003 ?
22:26.33x_Bruceyes, i printed the pdf file
22:27.06x_Brucewhen you do lsmod, the physical address is the "base"?
22:27.32cr2x_Bruce: yes, but there is also an offset in the structure.
22:27.43cr2and you need to consider diffeent sections.
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22:27.51cr2x_Bruce: there is a linux tsc2003 driver
22:29.11Kevin2diogene31: Still around?  Can you grab the 20071216 version of haret and haretconsole from http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/
22:29.42Kevin2Then run "dump mmu 2 0x40100000 100" and post the result, please.
22:31.58x_Bruceso the physical address is that or what?
22:32.15diogene31Kevin2, Yep, I'm here, gonna download it ...
22:32.29paulproteusymerejt, Well, let me know if I can help.
22:32.36x_Brucecr2: what is the offset?
22:33.03diogene31Kevin2, result will come in a few hours ... sorry ...
22:33.04ymerejtpaulproteus, find where the power go out
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22:34.13ymerejtpaulproteus, find where the power go out
22:36.55dcordesx_Bruce, are you aware of http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMDDI ?
22:37.19dcordesalso http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_MDP
22:37.29dcordesor just see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?auto_redirect=1&pagename=TitleSearch&s=kaiser
22:37.44cr2x_Bruce: the section code/text is shifted from the base. start=base+offset
22:38.32cr2Kevin2: do you have an idea what haret can't mmutrace some regions on omap850 ?
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22:38.39cr2s/what/why/
22:39.27Kevin2cr2: No.  I don't even recall the issue.
22:39.37Kevin2Was it locking up, or not showing the data?
22:40.04cr2Kevin2: i've found the TS spi address, and the i2c address is known. but you don't see the data.
22:41.02Kevin2Only two things I can think of - it was using another virtual mapping or it was using dma.
22:41.46cr2i've looked at the disassembled code.
22:42.05x_Brucecr2: what is that offset?
22:42.19diogene31Kevin2, The result : 86600000  | 40100000 | 1MB section | D=0 CB AP=1
22:42.20diogene31a6600000  | 40100000 | 1MB section | D=0    AP=1
22:42.45x_Brucei have base, size, hmod, amd an initial numeric value
22:43.05Kevin2diogene31: Can you pastebin the full output from "wi 10"?
22:43.15x_Brucemid, pid, fl
22:46.50ymerejtcr2, in asic3_mmc the suspend function does not set to 0 the ASIC3_SDHWCTRL_SDPWR. Does it means the SD controller is always powered ?
22:50.44cr2ymerejt: it sets Power1 to 0
22:51.05cr2ymerejt: best of all is to trace the sd suspend
22:51.38x_Brucecr2: which of the codes is the offset?
22:51.43cr2ymerejt: but it'll be huge, because of the SD init. i've traced SD insert/out and the SDIO insert/out
22:52.42cr2x_Bruce: don't remember. look at the testwm5 source, and compare with the platform builder headers. i think i've posted at least something about the bugs at xda-dev
22:54.58x_Brucethanks
23:01.36dcordescr2, x_Bruce anything I c an do?
23:03.22x_Brucei am heading to the zzzzzzzzzzzz world right now
23:03.29x_Brucecatch ya guys tomorrow
23:14.53cr2dcordes: i've added some more registers: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMDDI
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23:31.06dcordescr2, I don't really understand what they do. Only know they are about the device specific display types
23:32.26dcordesbrb
23:33.53diogene31Kevin2, Do you mean here, scrambling everyone's display ?
23:34.42Kevin2diogene31:  No, use http://pastebin.ca/
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23:36.48dcordescr2, is Addr phys address which I can dump?
23:37.05diogene31Kevin2, Here it is: http://pastebin.ca/819462
23:37.37dcordescr2, (in mddi=
23:42.37Kevin2diogene31: What mmutrace commands did you run?
23:50.56ymerejtcr2, I think wifi is powered by default on universal
23:51.49ymerejtI will do some tests tomorrow. Now, it's time to sleep
23:53.24ymerejtdiogene31 to be ready for some OSIAMX stuff . See you tomorrow for the fist coffee of the week !
23:57.46dcordescr2, I just  tried it out http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMDDI_update
23:58.22dcordesthe two broken lines had pipes in the third pd output column
23:59.00dcordeswhere I put no value I got 0000 and the thrid column thingies are in "s. Where they were just ..... I left them out
23:59.28cr2dcordes: no, this data is transfered over the serial channel. youi can't get it with 'pd'

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