| 00:00.11 | rakeem | Community Service for Netstumbler... |
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| 00:09.21 | Kevin2 | dcordes / cr2_ : Can you pull latest haret and haretconsole.tar.gz from http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ -- I've added Kaiser to the list. |
| 00:11.11 | cr2_ | Kevin2: athena is pxa27x. if it matters. |
| 00:12.22 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Okay - checked in. |
| 00:12.23 | cr2_ | libra is msm7500 |
| 00:12.53 | cr2_ | ok. |
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| 00:16.25 | Kevin2 | cr2_: I have latest mach-types -- what did you want me to do with it? |
| 00:16.55 | cr2_ | what devices do we miss ? |
| 00:17.07 | cr2_ | the loox c55x i guess. |
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| 00:18.17 | Kevin2 | I don't see a mach type for that - I see LOOXN560 and looxc550 |
| 00:19.21 | cr2_ | hmm. that's bad. |
| 00:19.37 | cr2_ | i think this is actually the same device. |
| 00:19.45 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Okay - I've checked in mach-types.h and changed libra. |
| 00:20.03 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 00:20.23 | Kevin2 | The loox will have to wait until someone knows what it is supposed to be. |
| 00:21.09 | cr2_ | the n560 says it's a c55x. there is a log for it. |
| 00:21.36 | rakeem | Should the battery charge while running linux? |
| 00:23.32 | cr2_ | rakeem: ba ? there were some problems with the battry monitor |
| 00:23.46 | cr2_ | but the charging should work. |
| 00:25.09 | Kevin2 | cr2_: BTW, I moved machine definitions to regs_misc.py and added an egpio helper function in haretconsole. |
| 00:25.34 | rakeem | Prolly my wiggly port then... Is there any way to check from the cmdline? Also, is it possible to restart the keyboard when it goes weird? |
| 00:26.37 | cr2_ | Kevin2: thanks. |
| 00:27.04 | cr2_ | rakeem: you can rmmod the keyboard driver. |
| 00:27.21 | cr2_ | Kevin2: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/haret/13/1330.html |
| 00:27.40 | cr2_ | Trying to detect machine (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='FUJITSU SIEMENS COMPUTERS |
| 00:27.40 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.45 | cr2_ | this is N560 |
| 00:28.13 | rakeem | cr2: Is that pxa2xx_core (approx.)? |
| 00:28.58 | cr2_ | rakeem: no. blueangel_kbd ? |
| 00:29.26 | cr2_ | it'll be rewritten, or even removed once we'll have spi keyboard. |
| 00:29.47 | cr2_ | because it's just an spi keyboard on top of asic3-spi |
| 00:29.48 | rakeem | Can I probe you for a timeframe? |
| 00:30.02 | rakeem | spi being? |
| 00:30.05 | cr2_ | well, Kevin2 is working on it. |
| 00:30.21 | cr2_ | google: motorola spi |
| 00:30.41 | rakeem | which is just one of the reasons that we all *love* Kevin2 around here.... <lick lick> |
| 00:31.15 | cr2_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Peripheral_Interface |
| 00:31.33 | rakeem | Ah... Reading... |
| 00:31.55 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Are you sure the Loox uses N560? If we don't set it, users will get a helpful error message. If we set it and get it wrong, users will get mysterious hangs. |
| 00:32.30 | cr2_ | Kevin2: they have mysterious hangs already ;-) |
| 00:33.16 | cr2_ | kiozen is the only person who cares, and i'm the only person who is doing something for these devices. |
| 00:35.44 | cr2_ | Kevin2: the em270 or something like that kernel patch initializes the Toppoly STEB1 LCD over pxa ssp. |
| 00:36.12 | cr2_ | it's the same LCD used on Blueangel boardid=6, and is missing the bitbanging now. |
| 00:36.55 | cr2_ | that's why i was asking if your mysterious pseudo-i2c is not spi in real life. |
| 00:39.06 | Kevin2 | cr2_: I don't think so - but I'll look. Where is the em270 stuff in the kernel? |
| 00:39.53 | cr2_ | looking for the patch. |
| 00:41.24 | Kevin2 | cr2_: I've checked in the loox to machlist.txt |
| 00:41.57 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Note, though, you don't need a machlist entry for mtype - one can run "set mtype 1454" before "boot". |
| 00:42.52 | cr2_ | yes, i know. but it's still a ncie to have. |
| 00:42.54 | cr2_ | http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/html/x270-em-developer.py |
| 00:44.01 | cr2_ | hehe. 170MB is a bit steep |
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| 01:02.38 | cr2_ | good night |
| 01:05.07 | rakeem_ | N |
| 01:05.10 | rakeem_ | nite.. |
| 01:05.48 | dcordes | cr2_: gnite |
| 01:06.52 | Kevin2 | cr2_: good night |
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| 06:29.52 | dcordes | morning all |
| 06:30.56 | dcordes | cr2_: did you have look at linux-msm/drivers/video/msm/* yet? |
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| 07:52.15 | Tipolosko | hi :) |
| 07:53.19 | sadeness | very high! |
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| 08:07.21 | Tipolosko | hello jeanseb_ |
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| 08:17.08 | BabelO | hi |
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| 09:06.19 | jeanseb_ | hi BabelO |
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| 09:27.38 | goxboxlive | hmmmf i am getting old. I where on a party on friday, and i'm still sleepy. And guss this will be worse as older i get. |
| 09:31.19 | BabelO | goxboxlive: lol |
| 09:31.49 | BabelO | goxboxlive: did you see my webpage ? i have to add some more |
| 09:34.02 | BabelO | jeanseb_ : i ve recompiled a GPE image ;), now just need to check and then build exe file |
| 09:35.36 | jeanseb_ | BabelO: cool, last one empty the internal battery on my blue angel while pda standing on usb dock and keeping external battery full ! |
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| 09:36.59 | Tipolosko | hi pleemans |
| 09:37.23 | pleemans | Morning Tipolosko. |
| 09:43.00 | Tipolosko | can someone point me to a wiki/forum/whatever describing how to use haret and other tools to test my htc hermes ? |
| 09:43.56 | BabelO | Tipolosko: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 09:48.17 | Tipolosko | thanks BabelO! |
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| 09:55.59 | Tipolosko | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.26 | BabelO | Tipolosko: you need a toolchain and to checkout handhelds.org kernel |
| 10:02.58 | BabelO | Tipolosko: you can follow these instruction http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel to start, i don't know status of hermes in CVS |
| 10:04.00 | goxboxlive | BabelO: what website? |
| 10:04.29 | BabelO | goxboxlive: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/qtapp |
| 10:04.35 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is just a start :) |
| 10:06.12 | goxboxlive | BabelO: cool :-) |
| 10:07.30 | BabelO | goxboxlive: you have prebuilt in the packet i ll upload |
| 10:08.12 | goxboxlive | ok, i'll test it |
| 10:09.14 | goxboxlive | BabelO: You should also add it here: http://www.qt-apps.org/ |
| 10:09.18 | BabelO | goxboxlive: Qt tapioca/telepathy are in tapioca folder |
| 10:09.36 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 10:09.40 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i wait for trolltech feedback |
| 10:13.04 | goxboxlive | ok |
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| 10:40.44 | rakeem | BabelO! I hear you're the BA guru.... |
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| 10:49.47 | BabelO | rakeem: i have one yes |
| 10:50.01 | cr2_ | dcordes: the mddi_client_toshiba.c is a bit obfuscated and incomplete. toppoly LCD init uses a lot more registers, and it's relativery easy to document them. |
| 10:50.03 | cr2_ | hi |
| 10:50.39 | rakeem | BebelO: Any luck getting the keyboard to remain sane? |
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| 10:56.09 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 10:56.46 | BabelO | rakeem: as cr2 say, it need a real keyboard spi driver, this driver as repeat key issue |
| 10:57.31 | rakeem | That simple huh? No way round it... |
| 10:58.01 | rakeem | How about the touchscreen, that can be a bit glitchy too... |
| 10:59.02 | BabelO | rakeem: touchscreen is working |
| 11:03.22 | rakeem | I've found that it sometimes thinks I've lifted the stylus when I've not, or occasionally plots a point or two wildly incorrect... Fine for clicking, but handwriting gets thrown badly... |
| 11:14.25 | cr2_ | rakeem: there are many AD parameters there, not documented, and it seems nobody really knows how to adjust them ;) |
| 11:15.24 | rakeem | AD? |
| 11:33.24 | cr2_ | AnalogDigitalConverter |
| 11:33.32 | cr2_ | ADC |
| 11:33.44 | rakeem | Doh... |
| 11:34.22 | rakeem | Where can I see the list of parameters? |
| 11:35.37 | rakeem | Also, I see the debounce is separate... Is there any kind of filtering done in hardware? |
| 11:40.14 | rakeem | One more thing... How do I initialise bluetooth? All the right modules load, but no hci0 or flashing light... On the Uni it was 'hciattach ttyS2 texas; hciconfig hci0 up'. On the BA...? |
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| 11:49.05 | rakeem | Tipolosko: Hey! You're back! |
| 11:49.37 | Tipolosko | yes! :D |
| 11:49.59 | Tipolosko | strugglin with hermes :D |
| 11:50.19 | Tipolosko | i'm searching some doc.. |
| 11:50.22 | rakeem | Hang on, lemme look at the wiki... |
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| 11:50.40 | rakeem | What's your problem...? |
| 11:50.59 | Tipolosko | problem? :) i think i need a kernel! :D |
| 11:51.08 | Tipolosko | cross compile tools |
| 11:51.18 | Tipolosko | connectivity tools (usb? whatever?) |
| 11:51.21 | Tipolosko | etc... |
| 11:52.40 | Tipolosko | so, when cr2_ is back, i can "help" him (and you all) (i hope..) |
| 11:53.56 | rakeem | He was here a few minutes ago... Lemme see if I can help you with the kernel... |
| 11:53.58 | Tipolosko | i have these links.. http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 11:54.40 | Tipolosko | and this http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel |
| 11:54.52 | Tipolosko | do you think is a good place to start? |
| 11:57.07 | rakeem | The Universal (also the Blueangel) kernel pages have nice clear instructions for building a foreign kernel, but they pertain to Xscale rather than Samsung... |
| 11:57.49 | rakeem | Although it should still use the same gcc... I think... |
| 11:58.31 | Tipolosko | i'll see :) |
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| 11:59.26 | rakeem | Actually, scratch that. Most arch-specific stuff seems to be set in 'make menuconfig'... |
| 12:00.41 | rakeem | Why don't you just download a recent Uni or BA binary... Make sure you back your shit up though, my Tornado needed a hard-reset after trying an experimental kernel... |
| 12:00.56 | Tipolosko | right now i'm downloading kernel sources from cvs |
| 12:01.32 | Tipolosko | do you think it works? are the same architecture as hermes? |
| 12:02.10 | rakeem | Erm... It's ARM machine code... |
| 12:03.02 | Tipolosko | yes, but peripherals? video card? just to see kernel booting.. |
| 12:03.52 | rakeem | ...from what I understand, the differences between variants like, OMAP, PXA, Samsung etc. are with peripherals like onboard DSP, I/O etc... |
| 12:05.01 | rakeem | Video card? Easy, just write a quick driver for it... |
| 12:05.20 | rakeem | Hehe. |
| 12:06.09 | Tipolosko | i think the words "quick" and "driver" cannot be use togheder in the same phrase :D |
| 12:06.43 | rakeem | I think HaRET takes care of each CPU's boot-strap idiosyncrasies... |
| 12:07.25 | rakeem | Damn man... Dark magic... |
| 12:07.40 | Tipolosko | ^_^ |
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| 12:08.10 | Tipolosko | hi ImCoKeMaN |
| 12:08.55 | ImCoKeMaN | hello |
| 12:09.13 | Tipolosko | cvs kernel checkout is slooow! :/ |
| 12:09.39 | rakeem | Which is one thing I love about this project; it forces you to re-evaluate your assumptions about bits that normally just work... |
| 12:10.41 | Tipolosko | Hahahha! :D |
| 12:10.42 | rakeem | Hanging out here, Googling some of the terms discussed when the grown-ups are talking is really educational... |
| 12:10.56 | rakeem | Hey Cokey... |
| 12:12.52 | rakeem | I've started messing about with assembly again... You seen IDA Pro? |
| 12:13.00 | ImCoKeMaN | love it |
| 12:13.09 | Tipolosko | wonderful tool |
| 12:13.27 | rakeem | Had a little play with it for the first time yesterday afternoon... |
| 12:14.38 | rakeem | Jesus man... Beautiful... Signature based binary analysis... |
| 12:23.52 | Tipolosko | -_- kernel checkout isn't finished yet! going to lunch... :) |
| 12:32.46 | rakeem | Bon apetit... |
| 12:36.55 | cr2_ | IDA still requires a lot of manual work, and has a lot of bugs too. |
| 12:39.15 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: you can also write the BTS compiler, if you are a BT fan. It's a small and very helpful project. |
| 12:42.40 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.16 | dcordes | cr2_: did you look at linux-msm/drivers/video/msm* ? |
| 12:43.37 | dcordes | you told me to sesrch msm tree for mddi referenc |
| 12:43.50 | dcordes | eand there is a lot in this path |
| 12:44.44 | rakeem | What's the BTS compiler? (Tried googling...) |
| 12:45.41 | BabelO | rakeem: on BA it is hciattach -S /etc/btsscriptfile.bts /dev/ttyS3 texas |
| 12:46.56 | rakeem | Hang on... BTS as in Audiomodem...?! You've a sick mind cr2... |
| 12:47.49 | cr2_ | rakeem: bts is a TI binary BT command file, which is loaded with hciattach -S |
| 12:48.36 | rakeem | Aha! A script file! I tried ttyS3 and noticed it threw a segmentation fault... |
| 12:48.49 | cr2_ | i've picked out the BTS->ascii decompiler from hciattach, but we obviously need a reverse process. |
| 12:50.00 | cr2_ | because we load just some junk file now. it's nice that htere are no side affects, but is still not how it should be done. |
| 12:52.07 | rakeem | So you just recycle a dark, binary-blob and it says OK! when you say AT!? |
| 12:52.52 | rakeem | Like the Broadcom device in the WRTs... I assume that's why the kernel's stuck on 2.4 with them... |
| 12:56.46 | dcordes | does somebody have an idea how to scroll in a screen w/o ctrl? |
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| 13:03.52 | dcordes | cr2_: the disay stuffis very well documented there |
| 13:04.18 | Tipolosko | hi :) |
| 13:04.48 | dcordes | w |
| 13:16.37 | dcordes | sorry i did not notice your message about the msm video stuff |
| 13:17.41 | dcordes | cr2_: so how will we go about documenting the missing registers |
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| 13:30.29 | kiozen | BabelO: you ever tried the qtopia port for wince? |
| 13:32.48 | cr2_ | kiozen: hi |
| 13:32.55 | kiozen | hi |
| 13:33.02 | cr2_ | dcordes: i'll do it in the evening |
| 13:33.21 | cr2_ | kiozen: n560 is included into haret now |
| 13:33.30 | dcordes | cr2_: marvellous. can I help? |
| 13:33.37 | kiozen | yes, I hav eread the logs :) |
| 13:33.53 | cr2_ | kiozen: can you get the testwm5 and dump the files ? |
| 13:34.11 | cr2_ | dcordes: no, it's not a very big job. |
| 13:34.27 | kiozen | in the evening. don't have the device in the office. |
| 13:35.32 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 13:36.42 | BabelO | kiozen: not tried, i ve it on my computer |
| 13:37.13 | kiozen | me too, now. Let's see... |
| 13:38.45 | cr2_ | :) |
| 13:38.55 | cr2_ | kiozen: start with hello world first. |
| 13:42.11 | cr2_ | dcordes: create the kaiserCPLD wiki page, there is a lot of data to be filled in there. |
| 13:43.47 | rakeem | cr2: In menuconfig / xconfig how can I make sure it builds the keyboard driver as a separate module? |
| 13:43.57 | kiozen | cr2_: never! I planned to start with a full featured moving map application |
| 13:44.16 | kiozen | cr2_: the problem is just: I don't have one ;) |
| 13:52.36 | rakeem | I hope this isn't a daft question, but am I right in thinking that drivers can be compiled straight into the kernel rather than as modules? |
| 13:53.08 | cr2_ | rakeem: for 98% of modules |
| 13:53.38 | rakeem | 'Cos when I lsmod I don't see anything like blueangel_kbd... Which I'd like so I can yank it in and out whenever it goes wonky... |
| 13:53.57 | cr2_ | kiozen: it's difficult to compile big projects with cegcc once they are done with ms-visual-something |
| 13:54.15 | cr2_ | rakeem: compile it as a module. |
| 13:54.56 | rakeem | 98% go straight in, or as mods? What's it called when it's not a module, and what do I choose in the make config interface? |
| 13:54.58 | Tipolosko | hi cr2_! |
| 13:54.58 | kiozen | :) I always do it the other way round. But it's not easier... |
| 13:55.14 | rakeem | I'm sure I've seen it somewhere.... |
| 13:55.33 | cr2_ | arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel_kp.c |
| 13:57.15 | cr2_ | kiozen: i've ported older gpsmapedit to winelib. msvc allows very strange things, while gcc is very strict. |
| 13:57.19 | rakeem | So is that... gcc -i arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel_kp.c -o blueangel_kp.ko ? |
| 13:57.30 | cr2_ | rakeem: change the .config |
| 13:58.00 | rakeem | Hmm.... Not looked at it in ascii yet.... Hang on... |
| 13:58.42 | cr2_ | it's called keypad, but ok. |
| 13:58.46 | cr2_ | config MACH_BLUEANGEL_KEYPAD |
| 13:58.46 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.47 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.47 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.47 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.25 | rakeem | Is it y for built in, and m for module? |
| 14:02.06 | cr2_ | yes |
| 14:02.16 | rakeem | Cheers... |
| 14:02.41 | rakeem | What's the non-module 'built-in' method called? |
| 14:16.00 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_CPLD? |
| 14:16.52 | dcordes | Tipolosko: you will be the overlord in your LUG with linux on hermes ;) |
| 14:18.16 | Tipolosko | yeah! "See, guys! Linux hangs faster than windows on my mobile!!!" ^____^ |
| 14:18.42 | rakeem | FASTER = BETTER . |
| 14:21.22 | Tipolosko | Yes, sure!!! :) |
| 14:21.53 | Tipolosko | wow, now i have a lovely zImage.. |
| 14:23.34 | rakeem | Can you get to a prompt? |
| 14:23.41 | rakeem | USB ssh? |
| 14:24.38 | cr2_ | dcordes: remove the descriptions |
| 14:24.52 | cr2_ | rakeem: on hermes ? telnet |
| 14:27.33 | rakeem | Ah.... See, that's what I was talking about Tipolosko: You're forced to think and take nothing for granted... Telnet indeed, cr2... |
| 14:29.13 | Tipolosko | :) |
| 14:30.55 | dcordes | cr2_: like this? Hope I did not mess it up |
| 14:30.57 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_CPLD |
| 14:34.42 | dcordes | cr2_: how is it we can take over the cpld from the hermes board here? |
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| 14:39.58 | imanex | anyone around? |
| 14:40.31 | dcordes | yes |
| 14:40.35 | imanex | hey dude |
| 14:40.42 | imanex | cud i ask a question about beetles? |
| 14:40.48 | dcordes | yes |
| 14:40.53 | imanex | in here or pm? |
| 14:41.12 | dcordes | here |
| 14:41.34 | imanex | im lookin for a zimage that will work for beetles |
| 14:41.48 | imanex | using haret |
| 14:42.06 | imanex | haret keeps hanging when "Jumping to Kernel..." |
| 14:42.19 | imanex | ive been reading sites all nite |
| 14:42.24 | dcordes | sorry what's beetles? htc machine? |
| 14:42.28 | imanex | yer |
| 14:42.35 | imanex | htc beetles hw6515f |
| 14:42.42 | imanex | or 65xx |
| 14:43.13 | dcordes | never came across it. let me have a look |
| 14:43.28 | imanex | people posting on forums i may need to compile my own shit |
| 14:43.38 | imanex | and ive never coded in my life |
| 14:44.04 | dcordes | me n'either |
| 14:44.18 | dcordes | you don't need to code in order to compile. |
| 14:45.01 | dcordes | imanex: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Beetles |
| 14:46.27 | imanex | wat i do with this site? |
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| 14:48.45 | imanex | is that information to modify linboot.cpp? |
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| 14:59.04 | Tipolosko | Woow! i'm so excited!! black screen with gray text.. scrolling fast! is a linux kernel booting! :D |
| 14:59.24 | Tipolosko | ok, kernel panic... :D |
| 14:59.41 | dcordes | Tipolosko: better a kernel oops then nor kernel at all |
| 14:59.48 | rakeem | Looks amazing the first time don't it? |
| 15:01.18 | Tipolosko | rakeem: yes :D this is the first time i'm happy to see a kernel crashing !!!! |
| 15:01.20 | dcordes | imanex: I'm not sure on this but it looks like there is not too much done yet |
| 15:01.40 | dcordes | maybe you out of luck and nobody is working on it |
| 15:01.50 | dcordes | Tipolosko: lol |
| 15:02.11 | dcordes | Tipolosko: I would like to see a kernel crash on my device but there is not display driver for kaiser yet ;) |
| 15:02.13 | rakeem | Hehe... I remember gazing at my old iPaq 3630 in wonder... The tornado looks the cutest though... |
| 15:03.00 | Tipolosko | mmm i have some problem switching it off... :D |
| 15:03.32 | Tipolosko | hard-reset button comes handy! |
| 15:03.52 | rakeem | Yeah, the battery will be in and out... If it's got a cover, you'll soon leave it off for hacking sessions... |
| 15:04.21 | rakeem | Smartphone port with screenshot: http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/index.html |
| 15:04.41 | dcordes | rakeem: I tried to boot tornado image on prophet once |
| 15:06.17 | rakeem | I've got gpe-phone running, but drivers are missing... GSM works, but audio doesn't so you can call, but don't expect to hear anything... |-[ |
| 15:06.57 | rakeem | Shame though, cos it's got Bt + 802... |
| 15:06.58 | Tipolosko | Hahhhahahh!! :D |
| 15:07.32 | dcordes | sorry that was a wizard image on the prophet |
| 15:07.36 | dcordes | the display worqd |
| 15:08.02 | dcordes | I wonder if somebody will engage those omap850 things |
| 15:08.28 | dcordes | rakeem: you run a stable X11 on that tiny thing? |
| 15:09.35 | Tipolosko | i want a ncurses-only phone! :) |
| 15:10.09 | rakeem | Yeah, surprisingly... It takes a while to get moving, but once you've done a lap of the GUI it's pretty responsive... |
| 15:10.10 | Tipolosko | with aalib for cameras and video calls |
| 15:10.19 | rakeem | No driver... |
| 15:10.22 | dcordes | you can dial with at commands if that's enough command line geekery for you |
| 15:11.54 | rakeem | So I've seen... The first dialer I saw on the Uni was nice and shimmering graohics followed by a terminal window puking AT commands... Didn't make it to this release of the iPhone for some reason.... |
| 15:12.16 | Tipolosko | LOL :D |
| 15:15.32 | dcordes | cr2_: do you have an idea what gpios I can try? |
| 15:17.40 | rakeem | dcordes: Remind me, are you mapping the Kaiser? |
| 15:18.44 | dcordes | rakeem: yes I'm one of the kaiser guys |
| 15:19.25 | rakeem | Tasty... What's the WM build like? Even vaguely decent? Anything good? |
| 15:19.39 | dcordes | wm? |
| 15:19.46 | rakeem | M$ |
| 15:19.49 | rakeem | CE |
| 15:20.06 | dcordes | ah hm well somebody here once said wince was working but slow and unstable |
| 15:20.10 | dcordes | that matches it right |
| 15:20.11 | rakeem | Ten+ years of product development. |
| 15:21.55 | rakeem | Yeah, you've really got to take your hat off to them... I hear their Project Lead is leaving to head up the Plan9 port to the Atari Lynx. |
| 15:24.06 | dcordes | sure |
| 15:24.09 | dcordes | what you talking about? |
| 15:24.44 | rakeem | Being stoopid. Nearly midnight here.... |
| 15:25.59 | rakeem | Just dazzled that in about 10 years of CE they have come up with zilch. |
| 15:26.04 | dcordes | ah yes of course. I'm also very tired and understand no more irony ;) |
| 15:27.07 | dcordes | is plan9 known to be a shitty os? |
| 15:27.11 | dcordes | or was |
| 15:27.23 | rakeem | I know nothing about it.... |
| 15:27.36 | rakeem | Been meaning to Wiki it... |
| 15:27.36 | Tipolosko | is possible to mount a fs on hermes? or the hermes storage controller is unsupported? |
| 15:28.10 | rakeem | Precisely... |
| 15:28.17 | rakeem | ...is my guess.... |
| 15:31.28 | dcordes | rakeem: afaik cr2_ is working on the SD which is on ati chip. Don't know about nand though |
| 15:32.17 | dcordes | http://lists.cse.psu.edu/archives/9fans/2007-December.txt here plan9 users are very vital these days ^^ |
| 15:32.20 | Tipolosko | sd interface through ati chip? O_o quite strange! If we get sd working, nand is not so important (at least to me) |
| 15:32.31 | dcordes | Tipolosko: yes |
| 15:32.49 | dcordes | ATI chips brings many different functions to hermes |
| 15:33.05 | dcordes | not only sd which is also wifi (sdio) and something else i think |
| 15:33.21 | rakeem | Yeah, and no sourcecode or datasheets... |
| 15:33.22 | dcordes | bbl |
| 15:33.30 | Tipolosko | wow! superchip! |
| 15:34.28 | Tipolosko | cr2_: are you there? |
| 15:38.40 | Tipolosko | i hope cr2_ is working hard to sd driver for hermes ^_^ |
| 15:40.53 | imanex | what u running linux on dude? |
| 15:41.40 | Tipolosko | htc tytn |
| 15:42.12 | imanex | what did u have 2 do to get it past jumping to kernel? |
| 15:42.47 | Tipolosko | well, the kernel must be able to read root filesystem from somewhere. |
| 15:42.57 | imanex | rootfs.img? |
| 15:43.06 | Tipolosko | Seems that sd card driver is broken.. |
| 15:43.12 | imanex | ... |
| 15:43.27 | imanex | so when it says Jumping to Kernel..., its not hangin |
| 15:43.31 | imanex | its lookin for an fs? |
| 15:43.38 | imanex | a* |
| 15:43.40 | Tipolosko | imanex: i don't know precisely.. i'm a newbye! i saw this "thing" yesterday night.. |
| 15:43.47 | Tipolosko | imanex: post your default.txt |
| 15:43.49 | imanex | omg |
| 15:43.54 | imanex | i been @ this for a fkn week |
| 15:44.05 | imanex | im runnin htc beetles |
| 15:44.10 | Tipolosko | i can tell you what i've done |
| 15:44.17 | imanex | go for it |
| 15:44.44 | Tipolosko | i've created a folder on memory card called "linux" (or whatever, is not important) |
| 15:45.01 | Tipolosko | i've compiled a kernel for htc hermes, and put it in that folder |
| 15:45.07 | Tipolosko | filename is zimage |
| 15:45.20 | Tipolosko | then put haret executable and default.txt in that folder |
| 15:45.24 | Tipolosko | default.txt contains: |
| 15:45.37 | Tipolosko | set kernel zimage |
| 15:45.37 | Tipolosko | boot |
| 15:45.46 | Tipolosko | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.02 | Tipolosko | then run haret and press run button |
| 15:49.40 | Tipolosko | then the kernel boots, with all messages scrolling :) |
| 15:50.22 | imanex | what ver of haret u using? |
| 15:50.31 | imanex | im using gnuharet |
| 15:50.41 | imanex | it says bootlinux unknown command |
| 15:51.00 | imanex | standalone exe that boots straight to linux |
| 15:51.38 | imanex | Tipolosko |
| 15:52.35 | Tipolosko | i'm using this http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071122.exe |
| 15:54.34 | imanex | so u compiled a kernel for a different handheld and it worked |
| 15:54.43 | imanex | did u have to do anything before u compiled? |
| 15:55.47 | Tipolosko | i've compiled a kernel for my own handheld. i own a htc tytn that is named also "hermes" (as far as i know!) |
| 15:56.18 | Tipolosko | the kernel itself is the same, but you are going to use different config files for different handhelds |
| 15:56.27 | imanex | so u have a handheld that people already hav had linux runnin on? |
| 15:56.44 | imanex | where do u find config files for the kernel? |
| 15:56.56 | imanex | or do u modify the source of the kernel to config? |
| 15:56.58 | Tipolosko | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel |
| 15:57.06 | Tipolosko | here you can find the kernel |
| 15:57.22 | Tipolosko | included there is a lot of config files |
| 15:57.30 | Tipolosko | grab it with cvs |
| 15:57.47 | Tipolosko | i don't know if you cand find some precompiled kernel around.. |
| 15:57.47 | imanex | im not runing nix on my pc |
| 15:57.50 | imanex | im running windows |
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| 15:58.22 | Tipolosko | mm imanex, so.. sorry, i don't know what to do for you |
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| 15:59.44 | imanex | its k man |
| 15:59.47 | imanex | thanks for ur time |
| 16:01.37 | imanex | i think i found what i needed |
| 16:02.37 | Tipolosko | :) |
| 16:07.50 | cr2_ | imanex: i've compiled the beetles stuff for somebody many months ago, but then didn't hear anything about it. |
| 16:08.32 | cr2_ | imanex: then somebody half-merged beetles and sable. i need to compile it and check on sable. |
| 16:09.34 | cr2_ | imanex: btw, beetles is a funny machine, because it has 2 SD controllers. we were booting off the pxa miniSD card, because there were some problems with ASIC3 SD. don't know how it is now. |
| 16:09.56 | Tipolosko | cr2_: i've booted my first kernel (compiled myself) in htc tytn, thanks for haret :) |
| 16:10.19 | Tipolosko | now it says that cannot mount root. Is sd controller driver working? |
| 16:15.39 | imanex | cr2_: wud u still have a copy of the pre-compiled kernel? |
| 16:15.57 | imanex | cr2_: cuda been some rude bitch, got it workin and just didnt come back |
| 16:16.39 | imanex | cr2_: if u boot off the sd, its the first sd card |
| 16:16.49 | imanex | seems to work for me, just wont go past kernel |
| 16:17.13 | imanex | it can read initrd in the haret box, so it must be able to read shit |
| 16:18.38 | imanex | haret says it shuts down hardware, wudnt be shutting down sd support? |
| 16:20.50 | imanex | cr2_: does the imagefs need to be a certain filename? what filename does haret look for |
| 16:20.57 | imanex | sorry about the question spam |
| 16:23.05 | Tipolosko | cr2_ seems too busy now :) i'll try again later. |
| 16:27.44 | imanex | im waiting for him |
| 16:27.51 | imanex | ive been doin this for a week |
| 16:27.57 | imanex | been reading about it for longer |
| 16:29.02 | Tipolosko | ciao :) |
| 16:44.16 | imanex | im bout to give up :'( this is tooo hard |
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| 16:50.40 | dcordes | imanex, give up on what? you did not even start, did you? |
| 16:51.51 | imanex | ive been reading for hours dude |
| 16:52.05 | imanex | ive been trying to get haret to load |
| 16:52.15 | imanex | people saying sd card driver is haxed |
| 16:52.22 | imanex | i dun think i have the right kernel |
| 16:53.20 | imanex | and i dun understand the page u gave me |
| 16:57.53 | dcordes | imanex, did you build one yeT? |
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| 17:02.27 | dcordes | imanex, if you really want linux on your device take not that you are obviously the only guy around with beetle. So if you want the development to go on you have to show love. If you won't test shit nobody will |
| 17:02.58 | imanex | it wudnt be cuz im using a 2gb sd card? |
| 17:03.08 | imanex | im gonna try my 1 giga |
| 17:03.18 | imanex | bootloader wont read any sd card over 1gb |
| 17:03.27 | imanex | i think i got a 512 layin about too |
| 17:04.23 | dcordes | no idea. I only know a certain bootloader on a certain device that also supports only 1gb |
| 17:04.39 | dcordes | imanex, did you notice my question about you having built a kernel yet.. |
| 17:04.49 | imanex | i cant compile in windows |
| 17:04.53 | imanex | im running windows |
| 17:04.55 | imanex | i dun have gcc |
| 17:04.57 | imanex | so i cant |
| 17:05.11 | imanex | i was gonna ask cr2_ if he cud compile 1 for me |
| 17:05.12 | dcordes | lol |
| 17:05.27 | dcordes | get linux |
| 17:05.37 | dcordes | would be a first approach |
| 17:06.00 | imanex | if i had another comp i wud |
| 17:06.06 | imanex | this pc needs windows |
| 17:06.09 | imanex | i do other shit on it |
| 17:06.10 | dcordes | ever heard of dualboot? |
| 17:06.16 | imanex | yer lilo n shit |
| 17:06.23 | dcordes | or grub n shizzz |
| 17:06.23 | Stamrogh | :D |
| 17:06.33 | imanex | yer im quite aware dude |
| 17:07.00 | dcordes | so to sort things up: You just told me you had no kernel because you couldn't compile |
| 17:07.05 | dcordes | how did you attempt to boot then? |
| 17:07.54 | dcordes | what did you boot? |
| 17:08.17 | imanex | with other kernels |
| 17:08.27 | imanex | i used a kernel another guy on a forum said worked for him |
| 17:08.41 | imanex | and its still hangin' @ Jumping to Kernel... |
| 17:08.58 | dcordes | possibly that guy on the forum has a different version haret then you? |
| 17:09.12 | imanex | different haret version matters? |
| 17:09.18 | dcordes | yes |
| 17:10.06 | dcordes | try to figure out which version he used and retry |
| 17:10.18 | dcordes | with the according haret |
| 17:11.31 | dcordes | if I would be familiar with cvs I could build you one fresh kernel |
| 17:12.03 | imanex | im looking for the ftp dump again of his files. think i lost it :'( |
| 17:12.13 | imanex | thort i bookmarked |
| 17:12.29 | kiozen | cr2_ where to get latest testwm5? |
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| 17:48.01 | cr2_ | kiozen: http://hands.com/~lkcl |
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| 18:38.44 | ymerejt | hello everybody |
| 18:39.12 | ymerejt | I'm trying to install Linux on my HTC universal just bought |
| 18:39.24 | ymerejt | I have some problems |
| 18:40.01 | ymerejt | When I start Openmoko or Qtopia after having installed the respective cab file |
| 18:40.37 | ymerejt | During the creating system base step just after kernel loading the phone reboot unexpectly |
| 18:40.55 | ymerejt | I have tried to pass by the old method |
| 18:41.22 | ymerejt | But the ramdisk program run, the kernel load and panic about console_sem ... |
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| 18:43.15 | ymerejt | Is anybody can help me ? |
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| 18:49.44 | paulproteus | ymerejt, Hmm, I don't have a universal yet, but I will in a few days and then I'll be able to help. (-; |
| 18:51.08 | ymerejt | Thx |
| 18:51.23 | ymerejt | There is something I don't understand. |
| 18:51.48 | ymerejt | I haven't found any relative information or case about kernel panic like I have |
| 18:52.09 | BabelO | ymerejt: if you install with the old method, you have to create a ext3 partition, unpack image.tar.bz2 and then you need to change startup.txt a little |
| 18:52.57 | BabelO | ymerejt: other question is what WM6 rom did you use ? |
| 18:53.05 | ymerejt | The last from XDA |
| 18:53.18 | ymerejt | I think |
| 18:53.27 | ymerejt | I check the version |
| 18:54.03 | BabelO | ymerejt: it seem there is some problem with this one, but i don't know if it is only radio rom or the whole wm6 |
| 18:54.08 | BabelO | ~ping goxboxlive |
| 18:54.08 | apt | pong goxboxlive |
| 18:54.46 | ymerejt | ok |
| 18:54.55 | ymerejt | I'm really not lucky |
| 18:55.10 | ymerejt | I have installed this one because of my 8Gb SDHC card |
| 18:55.29 | BabelO | ymerejt: i think there is a topic on xda forum about that, maybe goxboxlive can answer when he come back |
| 18:55.48 | kiozen | cr2_ |
| 18:55.51 | ymerejt | thanks |
| 18:56.11 | BabelO | ymerejt: ah ah good idea, but not sure sdhc support is ok on linux kernel |
| 18:56.29 | BabelO | on 2.6.21 kernel i mean |
| 18:56.32 | BabelO | :) |
| 18:57.37 | kiozen | BabelO: you know what testwm5 is expected to do? |
| 18:58.02 | ymerejt | Maybe it is : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=116792035309114&w=2 (but haven't finish to read) |
| 18:58.18 | BabelO | kiozen: yes, you start it on your sdcard, and then it create two directory where you have testwm5 |
| 18:58.26 | BabelO | kiozen: it take a while |
| 18:58.59 | BabelO | kiozen: why ? it does not work ? |
| 18:59.08 | kiozen | hm it starts, I push the button, it dows stuff. but no files or directories.. |
| 18:59.21 | kiozen | s/dows/shows |
| 19:00.16 | ellisway | evenin all |
| 19:00.49 | BabelO | ymerejt: ok, let me check if we have it on our 2.6.21 kernel |
| 19:01.13 | kiozen | BabelO: should it close itself after the scan, or is this a crash? |
| 19:01.28 | ymerejt | Yes, I haven't checkout the htc kernel from CVS yet |
| 19:01.45 | BabelO | kiozen: i think a crash, because on my two device it take 30mn minumum |
| 19:01.52 | ymerejt | maybe this option CONFIG_MMC_SDHCI |
| 19:01.58 | kiozen | ok |
| 19:02.23 | BabelO | kiozen: try with a taskmanager to be sure all app are shutdown, like activesync |
| 19:02.34 | ellisway | hmm is much info know about the prophet i dont see anything about it on the hh.org wiki |
| 19:03.08 | BabelO | ymerejt: yes it is in kernel ;) |
| 19:03.09 | kiozen | everything shutdown except file-explorer to start it |
| 19:04.06 | ymerejt | even in the RAMdisk kernel ? Maybe it's the same ... |
| 19:04.31 | ymerejt | In all case, the probem persist with my very old 16Mb SD card ... |
| 19:04.41 | BabelO | ymerejt: but not compiled with config in htcuniversal_defconfig |
| 19:04.51 | ymerejt | And I don't have the complete stack |
| 19:04.58 | ymerejt | on my screen |
| 19:05.21 | BabelO | ymerejt: ah, but 16MB is very low, i think prerequies are 64MB |
| 19:05.57 | ymerejt | Year, I suppose too. But it doesn't explain a kernel crash isn't it |
| 19:05.58 | ymerejt | N |
| 19:05.58 | ymerejt | ? |
| 19:06.34 | BabelO | ymerejt: so two solution, a problem with wm6 or maybe it is because latest wm6 activate sdhci by default, then linux kernel does a segfault |
| 19:06.41 | BabelO | because of the setup |
| 19:06.43 | ymerejt | Is there some tools to dump the stack via USB ? |
| 19:07.01 | BabelO | ymerejt: dump the stack ? |
| 19:07.10 | BabelO | ymerejt: in french ? :) |
| 19:07.19 | ymerejt | Pourquoi pas |
| 19:08.13 | ymerejt | ya moyen de chopper la stack à travers l'USB ou carement tout le log kernel du genre netconsole ? |
| 19:08.40 | ymerejt | Parce que la pour debuggé c'est difficile |
| 19:10.02 | kiozen | bbl |
| 19:10.05 | BabelO | ymerejt: not really, but you can try usb NFS boot ;) |
| 19:12.53 | ymerejt | My 2.6.22 "home edition" can perfectly mount my SDHC 8Gb with some little IO error in dmesg it seems to work correctly |
| 19:13.27 | BabelO | ymerejt: best solution is to checkout handhelds.org kernel and then recompile it with corect default config option |
| 19:13.40 | ellisway | BabelO do you no if theres any info i can get from a prophet that might be of use i hhave to return the handset in about an hour i no its a omap based device but thats about all |
| 19:14.48 | ymerejt | I have an other idea ... |
| 19:17.00 | BabelO | ellisway: not really, omap devices are very close, but we are not at this step |
| 19:17.17 | ymerejt | I have remove the openmoko rootfs tar file from my SD card |
| 19:17.28 | ymerejt | So, Linux load and give me a console |
| 19:17.30 | ellisway | k np i just wanted to check before i delivered the device back to its owner |
| 19:17.45 | ymerejt | have tried a ls on the sdcard directory with success |
| 19:17.56 | BabelO | ellisway: we know that dcordes boot wizard kernel on prophet |
| 19:18.03 | ymerejt | But a little time after my phone has rebooted unexpectly |
| 19:18.06 | ellisway | k |
| 19:18.36 | ymerejt | the same way that when after the linux load it was trying to init the rootfs |
| 19:18.47 | ellisway | well the device belongs to a friend of mine so if any info is needed in the future i should be able to borrow the handset |
| 19:18.55 | ymerejt | My conclusion is that the SDHC card should really work |
| 19:19.10 | ymerejt | But there is a problem with my WM6 update done today |
| 19:19.17 | ymerejt | to support my SDHC card |
| 19:19.32 | BabelO | ymerejt: maybe the same way, but linux try to initialize sd controller too in both case |
| 19:19.54 | BabelO | ymerejt: try to compile your one kernel and try with various options |
| 19:21.48 | ymerejt | to do what ? My problem looks not linked to the SDHC card but to the WM6 update and maybe more probably to the radio update |
| 19:22.22 | BabelO | ymerejt: then try to shutdown phone before booting |
| 19:23.11 | ymerejt | What do you mean ? |
| 19:23.17 | paulproteus | Go to airplane mode |
| 19:23.24 | BabelO | yes |
| 19:23.36 | ymerejt | I have already tried this |
| 19:23.41 | ymerejt | I re-try |
| 19:24.34 | ymerejt | Same problem |
| 19:24.52 | ymerejt | A little time after the kernel load, the phone reboot unexpectly |
| 19:25.30 | ymerejt | I did'nt have this problem before my upgrade |
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| 19:26.09 | BabelO | ymerejt: try like i say, get handhelds.org kernel, codesourcery toolchain |
| 19:26.23 | pH5 | hm.. maybe there is a watchdog timer in that device that wm6 activates and wm5 and before didn't? |
| 19:26.34 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 19:26.38 | ymerejt | That was what I supposed today |
| 19:26.39 | BabelO | good idea too :) |
| 19:26.45 | pH5 | hej BabelO |
| 19:27.04 | ymerejt | So How could I disable it ? |
| 19:27.09 | ymerejt | I need to come back to WM5 |
| 19:27.13 | BabelO | pH5: any way kernel can't access to sd card without driver ? |
| 19:27.28 | ymerejt | But my sdcard work correctly |
| 19:27.40 | ymerejt | even with linux |
| 19:27.49 | ymerejt | I have done this test on the phone |
| 19:27.59 | ymerejt | I start Openmoko |
| 19:28.06 | ymerejt | without the tar file |
| 19:28.15 | ymerejt | so it stop and can do ls on /sdcard |
| 19:28.18 | ymerejt | it works fine |
| 19:28.30 | BabelO | ok |
| 19:28.40 | ymerejt | but a few time after and without connection i supposed it reboot unexpectly |
| 19:28.58 | ymerejt | I think the watchdog timer is the best idea |
| 19:29.24 | ymerejt | But I don't have any windows at home to go back WM5 |
| 19:29.48 | ymerejt | and I have to found a ROM because I don't have saved mine (I know it very bad) |
| 19:32.55 | pH5 | ymerejt: I'm not well informed about the pxa27x's timers, but think you can easily check if OWER[WME] is enabled with haret or devmem2 and maybe turn it off. |
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| 19:34.44 | ymerejt | year, actualy I'm new in the pocket PC work |
| 19:34.46 | ymerejt | world |
| 19:34.49 | pH5 | ymerejt: phys 0x40a00018, bit (1<<0) |
| 19:35.00 | ymerejt | It looks good |
| 19:35.03 | ymerejt | ;) |
| 19:35.15 | pH5 | in haret, run "pd 0x40a00018 4" |
| 19:35.31 | pH5 | if the value is 1, the watchdog reset is enabled |
| 19:35.38 | ymerejt | OK |
| 19:36.22 | ymerejt | 1/ From where I have you found this information ? |
| 19:37.01 | ymerejt | 2/ Nothing |
| 19:37.02 | ymerejt | ;) |
| 19:37.25 | pH5 | pxa27x developer manual. |
| 19:37.38 | pH5 | or you can find the same information in the drivers/watchdog/sa1100_wdt.c driver |
| 19:38.11 | pH5 | enabling this in your kernel configuration or disabling this bit in haret (or from linux with devmem2 before that 1min timeout) could fix that problem. |
| 19:38.21 | pH5 | wait. nothing is zero aka 000? |
| 19:39.36 | ymerejt | I will tried to disbable the timer with haret before start my Linux. |
| 19:39.50 | ymerejt | And from where have you found this address ? |
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| 19:41.23 | pH5 | ymerejt: it's in the manual. |
| 19:42.04 | ymerejt | Year, send it |
| 19:42.08 | cr2_ | is it an official wm6 update ? then i'll flash my universal now. |
| 19:42.28 | ymerejt | please |
| 19:42.35 | ymerejt | ok |
| 19:42.58 | cr2_ | kiozen: i think the problem is that you have \Speicherkarte, while testwm5 dumps into \Storage Card |
| 19:42.59 | ymerejt | cr2_, what are u talking about ? |
| 19:43.19 | kiozen | how can I set a link in wince, lol |
| 19:43.49 | cr2_ | ymerejt: i spent a lot of time making linux run on the uni, and just pissed off that it does not work on wince2005se ;) |
| 19:43.55 | kiozen | I do have "SD-MMCard" |
| 19:44.07 | cr2_ | kiozen: you can't . do you have enough space in / ? |
| 19:44.12 | cr2_ | kiozen: even better . |
| 19:44.41 | cr2_ | it's hardcoded, but if i compile testwm5 with gcc, then it's not working as expected. |
| 19:45.03 | cr2_ | there are some bugs in the header file. |
| 19:45.15 | ymerejt | cr2_, ok |
| 19:45.20 | cr2_ | and probably some attribute __packed__ weirdness. |
| 19:45.31 | kiozen | I have 66MB as data storage |
| 19:45.33 | ymerejt | haret want a script |
| 19:45.46 | ymerejt | there is no way to enter command line by line ? |
| 19:45.59 | cr2_ | ymerejt: in the script file |
| 19:46.08 | ymerejt | LOL |
| 19:46.17 | cr2_ | kiozen: i think \windows and modules take more. |
| 19:46.43 | Stamrogh | ymerejt: you can remotely connect to haret from your PC and type commands |
| 19:48.35 | ymerejt | pH5 could you send again the file please ? |
| 19:50.02 | pH5 | ymerejt: sorry, seems I can't DCC. email? |
| 19:50.43 | ymerejt | yes, thanks. To: jeremy dot compostella at gmail dot com |
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| 19:50.57 | BabelO | kiozen: else you can rename storage ;) http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms892393.aspx |
| 19:51.15 | BabelO | sorry for the microsoft link here :( |
| 19:52.55 | cr2_ | pH5: i still didn't sent the docking station, no time ;) can't do it tomorrow too. will send on wednesday |
| 19:53.20 | cr2_ | kiozen: you can recompile testwm5 ? |
| 19:53.38 | kiozen | what tool chain? |
| 19:53.44 | pH5 | cr2_: thanks, no problem. I didn't really drain the battery yet anyway :) |
| 19:53.45 | ymerejt | I have tried with the command but it does work ;( |
| 19:54.17 | ymerejt | not work obviously |
| 19:54.59 | cr2_ | kiozen: msvc |
| 19:55.36 | cr2_ | pH5: what we can do about the ramboot ? |
| 19:55.40 | kiozen | sure, I found a *rar from 2005. you got anything more up-to-date? |
| 19:55.53 | cr2_ | no. |
| 19:56.16 | cr2_ | i'd like to fix some header bugs, but don't remember where they are. |
| 19:58.54 | ymerejt | With haret, how to be sure the command as been executed from the file. I have no feedback. Is it normal ? |
| 19:59.15 | kiozen | ok, I give it a try, I go down to the cellar to boot Windows, bbl... |
| 20:02.55 | ymerejt | pH5, a better solution should be to enable the watchdog support in the linux kernel no ? |
| 20:03.58 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: New versions of wm6 isent compatible with our linux drivers. There are some bugs in the drivers. So if you want to run linux on your Uni u will have to flash it back to an older wm6 or an wm5 rom. |
| 20:04.01 | goxboxlive | BabelO: hi |
| 20:04.31 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, so it's pretty clear |
| 20:04.49 | ymerejt | Can you advice me a good ROM ? |
| 20:05.42 | BabelO | goxboxlive: have you time to try my app on universal ? |
| 20:06.20 | cr2_ | pH5: how t-mob calls universal ? |
| 20:06.45 | cr2_ | athena is ameo... |
| 20:06.46 | pH5 | ymerejt: I think so. |
| 20:06.50 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i have no clue anymore, i am not using my universal. I am having an old wm6 from pdaviet on my device. I guess it is over a half year old now. I am using the 1.15 radio . |
| 20:07.04 | pH5 | cr2_: what about ramboot? I don't know the t-mobile name for universal, unless it is mda exec. |
| 20:07.36 | goxboxlive | BabelO: I have no time for compiling, but i can test the binary |
| 20:07.54 | goxboxlive | What where the link u provided me? |
| 20:08.28 | cr2_ | pH5: the crypto is ok, but something else is wrong in the sdromboot |
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| 20:09.48 | cr2_ | hehe. it's MDA pro ;) |
| 20:09.57 | pH5 | cr2_: ah, I have no idea. I still don't have a magician again, and the ba is missing a cable so I can't test anything. therefore I'm chewing through the herald's bootloader. I want to learn how to fake a signature. |
| 20:10.42 | cr2_ | lol :) |
| 20:11.00 | cr2_ | pH5: how do they create custom roms ? |
| 20:11.12 | pH5 | cr2_: they haret-boot into a hacked bootloader |
| 20:11.18 | pH5 | afaik |
| 20:11.58 | goxboxlive | got it |
| 20:12.06 | cr2_ | hm. well, they certainly know how to decode. but encoding can be more complex. |
| 20:12.19 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: wtf is MDA pro AKU2.0 ? |
| 20:12.40 | goxboxlive | ?? no idea |
| 20:12.47 | cr2_ | https://after-sales-service.t-mobile.de/eg_online/t-mobile/t_mda_pro.htm |
| 20:13.02 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.48 | cr2_ | is WM6PROBUSSINESSVC_V3 ok ? |
| 20:15.05 | cr2_ | i'm wondering who creates such stupid names. |
| 20:15.57 | BabelO | goxboxlive: linuxbox2.free.fr/qtapp |
| 20:16.07 | goxboxlive | ye si git it |
| 20:19.33 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: if i'll fry my uni with this shitty software, i'll blame you :) |
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| 20:21.02 | goxboxlive | cr2_: :-) Why do you flash it? |
| 20:21.11 | goxboxlive | It's an old wm5 rom |
| 20:25.41 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: WM6PROBUSSINESSVC_V3 ? |
| 20:27.00 | ymerejt | pH5, the documentation says there is no software way to disable the watchdog after it has been enabled (cf 22.5.3) |
| 20:27.02 | ymerejt | ;( |
| 20:27.24 | ymerejt | the only way should be to enable the watchdog in the linux kernel |
| 20:27.35 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: there is no RUU* there ? |
| 20:27.40 | BabelO | ymerejt: compile your one ;) |
| 20:27.48 | BabelO | s/one/own/ |
| 20:27.53 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: how do i make an update ? |
| 20:28.07 | ymerejt | ;) Yes I will do it |
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| 20:29.00 | kiozen | cr2_ recording.... |
| 20:29.16 | pH5 | ymerejt: oh, seems like I didn't pay attention. |
| 20:29.24 | goxboxlive | so have the real made a official update for uni. |
| 20:29.45 | goxboxlive | cr2_: i guess there ius an exe file or something. I dont remember. |
| 20:30.42 | goxboxlive | but i think that you need winxp |
| 20:31.01 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: but where do i get a real update ? |
| 20:32.19 | goxboxlive | I haven theard of an official wm6 for uni. There are only kitchen vwesions. You will get them from xda-developers. I think there are some links there |
| 20:33.14 | cr2_ | ok, i'll try the official ruu |
| 20:36.32 | goxboxlive | BabelO: root@htcuniversal:~$ Create UI |
| 20:36.32 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.32 | goxboxlive | QPaintDevice::metrics: Device has no metric information |
| 20:36.32 | goxboxlive | Unrecognised metric -1095718100! |
| 20:36.32 | goxboxlive | [1] + Segmentation fault /opt/Qtopia/bin/imlife |
| 20:36.40 | ymerejt | goxboxlive, you told me there are some bugs with the last WM6. where can I find information about them ? |
| 20:36.40 | goxboxlive | bbl |
| 20:36.45 | BabelO | goxboxlive: good ;) |
| 20:36.56 | goxboxlive | BabelO: why? |
| 20:37.09 | goxboxlive | ymerejt: i doint know, check the xda-forums |
| 20:37.10 | BabelO | goxboxlive: did you copy tapioca folder to /usr/lib ? |
| 20:37.18 | BabelO | goxboxlive: and then to ldconfig ? |
| 20:37.29 | goxboxlive | no to /opt/Qtopia/lib yes and ld config |
| 20:37.33 | BabelO | goxboxlive: if it is the case, have you telepathy-gabble installed ? |
| 20:37.38 | goxboxlive | it didnt miss the libs |
| 20:38.02 | goxboxlive | It complained before i ran ldconfig |
| 20:38.46 | BabelO | goxboxlive: if you start telepathy-gabble , does it start ? |
| 20:39.13 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i dont have telepathy-gabble on my sd card |
| 20:40.23 | BabelO | goxboxlive: package are available at angstrom repository |
| 20:40.50 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i have remote installed them |
| 20:41.28 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:41.57 | kiozen | cr2_ how does testwm5 end. does it shut down? |
| 20:42.51 | cr2_ | kiozen: it does not write the filenames anymore. afair |
| 20:43.14 | kiozen | hm mine shutdown (crash?) |
| 20:43.20 | cr2_ | XP is hell. |
| 20:43.36 | cr2_ | kiozen: maybe. this software is a bit buggy. |
| 20:43.50 | cr2_ | kiozen: do you have the Modules directory ? |
| 20:44.22 | kiozen | yes with 433 entries |
| 20:45.42 | cr2_ | kiozen: can you pack it, and let me download it somewhere ? |
| 20:47.05 | kiozen | ok, will take 10min to upload... |
| 20:49.45 | goxboxlive | BabelO: still the same. telepathy-gabble also failes because of some missing dbus shit. |
| 20:49.53 | goxboxlive | bbl (or tomorrow) |
| 20:49.59 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok |
| 20:50.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it need dbus-glib |
| 20:50.26 | BabelO | goxboxlive: you have to start dbus-launch |
| 20:50.45 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: i can't update to wm6 |
| 20:50.48 | BabelO | and then export first line you see on screen ( if you start app from console ) |
| 21:02.47 | kiozen | cr2_ http://qlandkarte.sourceforge.net/dump.tar.gz |
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| 21:06.00 | cr2_ | kiozen: downloading. |
| 21:06.19 | cr2_ | hehe. and they say windows is easy and user-friendly !? |
| 21:06.58 | cr2_ | kiozen: ok, got it. |
| 21:07.09 | kiozen | ok, I will delete it |
| 21:08.01 | BabelO | cr2_: apple say same thing about iphone, it seem it is true |
| 21:09.18 | BabelO | but iphone hardware :( bluetooth stack is not so noce |
| 21:12.01 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's easier to boot qtopia than to update to wince2005se ;) |
| 21:12.20 | cr2_ | BabelO: is something known about the iphone hardware ? |
| 21:14.50 | cr2_ | The battery temperature is too cold. The charging function is disabled temporarily. The charging function resumes when t |
| 21:14.50 | cr2_ | he temperature is normal. |
| 21:15.23 | BabelO | cr2_: where did you get that ? |
| 21:16.04 | cr2_ | n560 |
| 21:16.42 | cr2_ | The battery temperature is high. The charging function is disabled temporarily. The charging function resumes when the t |
| 21:16.42 | cr2_ | emperature is normal. |
| 21:20.32 | kiozen | cr2_ an os for all live conditions :) |
| 21:26.44 | ymerejt | pH5, I building my kernel |
| 21:27.13 | ymerejt | I have activated the watchdog and check a little the code. |
| 21:28.38 | cr2_ | ymerejt: i can't update to the wm6 |
| 21:28.47 | ymerejt | and why ? |
| 21:29.18 | ymerejt | cr2_ ??? |
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| 21:33.29 | dcordes | cr2_, hey there. Did you find time to check the msm mddi registers yet? |
| 21:36.12 | cr2_ | ymerejt: there is no official update, my uni is net-locked, so it's too difficult for a layman like me :) |
| 21:37.15 | cr2_ | dcordes: what xx0000 blocks are referenced in the obfuscated android source ? |
| 21:37.47 | ymerejt | cr2_, did you have tried the XDA ROM ? |
| 21:37.49 | dcordes | I did not look at the numbers because I don't quit understand them |
| 21:37.55 | dcordes | s /quit /quite |
| 21:38.23 | cr2_ | ymerejt: what is XDA ROM ? |
| 21:39.11 | ymerejt | cr2_, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325466 |
| 21:39.11 | cr2_ | dcordes: #define LCD_CONTROL_BLOCK_BASE 0x110000 |
| 21:39.34 | ymerejt | but be careful it should be complicated to get linux on it after installing this ROM |
| 21:39.38 | ymerejt | I have some problems |
| 21:39.51 | ymerejt | actualy, I'm trying to solve it |
| 21:39.56 | cr2_ | ymerejt: yes, i've unpacked it, but there is no RUU |
| 21:40.05 | ymerejt | If I can't I will rollback to WM5 |
| 21:40.14 | ymerejt | There is all I need |
| 21:40.43 | cr2_ | so i've used the old RUU and it says the .nbf files have wrong checksums. |
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| 21:41.14 | cr2_ | dcordes: then there are |
| 21:41.17 | cr2_ | #define BASE5 0x150000 |
| 21:41.17 | cr2_ | #define BASE6 0x160000 |
| 21:41.17 | cr2_ | #define BASE7 0x170000 |
| 21:41.45 | cr2_ | which have something to do with gpio and int. |
| 21:42.20 | cr2_ | ymerejt: i've found UniversalRUU.zip |
| 21:42.31 | cr2_ | but now i'm not sure about the netlock |
| 21:43.51 | dcordes | cr2_, hm I don't have a display gpio. only lcd backlight |
| 21:44.12 | dcordes | might display be connected to cpld? |
| 21:44.20 | cr2_ | mddi_client_toshiba.c |
| 21:44.32 | dcordes | what about it? |
| 21:44.47 | cr2_ | references 0x1100xx, 0x1500xx, 0x1600xx, 0x1700xx |
| 21:45.13 | cr2_ | maybe we should add this to wiki. KaiserMDDI |
| 21:45.50 | cr2_ | toppoly needs different data |
| 21:46.22 | dcordes | cr2_, could you create this page? |
| 21:46.52 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 21:48.27 | dcordes | great |
| 21:57.22 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMDDI |
| 22:13.04 | ymerejt | Where can I find the correct kernel cmdline to pass to my fresh compiled kernel. |
| 22:13.15 | ymerejt | I need some Haret variable too |
| 22:36.34 | ymerejt | pH5, is the RAMADDR value for universal is 0xA0000000 ? |
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| 22:43.01 | BabelO | good evening timriker ;) |
| 22:46.13 | TimRiker | evening. |
| 22:46.55 | BabelO | TimRiker: i install your bot on my machine, but can't get ~google working :( |
| 22:46.55 | TimRiker | any progress on the kaiser lately? I've been swamped with other things as usual. |
| 22:47.15 | TimRiker | google is borken. need to convert to webscrape instead of the search as google stopped offering api keys. |
| 22:47.17 | dcordes | cr2_, ok how will we get the required topoly values? |
| 22:47.50 | BabelO | TimRiker: dcordes cr2_ and other are looking at kaiser |
| 22:48.12 | BabelO | TimRiker: in is in good way since google kernel |
| 22:48.19 | dcordes | TimRiker, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ ; GPIO ; CPLD ; MDP ; KaiserMDDI |
| 22:48.31 | dcordes | gathering info |
| 22:48.47 | BabelO | TimRiker: ok i better understand what it does not work, thx |
| 22:53.26 | TimRiker | dcordes: cool. |
| 22:54.40 | dcordes | TimRiker, every piece of help is appreaciated. I think first big goal should be dipslay driver |
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| 23:03.26 | dcordes | TimRiker, aren't you the ibot guy? |
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| 23:08.19 | paulproteus | BabelO, Isn't the Google kernel based on Linux/ |
| 23:08.20 | paulproteus | ? |
| 23:09.02 | paulproteus | Wouldn't it then be GPL...? |
| 23:09.26 | TimRiker | dcordes: yep. apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl. all the same bot. |
| 23:09.57 | dcordes | paulproteus, yes that's why it is called linux-msm and is gpl |
| 23:10.01 | TimRiker | paulproteus: so far nobody has a "Google kernel" as far as I know. |
| 23:10.15 | paulproteus | <BabelO> TimRiker: in is in good way since google kernel |
| 23:10.17 | TimRiker | dcordes: and it's in the wild? |
| 23:10.20 | paulproteus | I'm trying to understand that. |
| 23:10.36 | dcordes | TimRiker, in the wild? it's in git |
| 23:10.58 | dcordes | it sounded from cr2_ that some drivers will be blobs |
| 23:11.10 | TimRiker | sweet! I missed this news blurb someplace. where can I read more? |
| 23:11.28 | dcordes | http://git.android.com/ |
| 23:12.03 | dcordes | what they have there is msm7200A specific but that's very similar to our (kaiser) msm7200. Don't know the diferences though |
| 23:12.06 | cr2_ | TimRiker: this kernel is for a non-existing device |
| 23:12.19 | cr2_ | dcordes: i'll fill the registers tomorrow. |
| 23:12.26 | dcordes | cr2_, what about all the present defconfs in it? halibut eg |
| 23:12.35 | TimRiker | cr2_: ahh. not so exciting then, but a good sign. |
| 23:12.50 | cr2_ | dcordes: the 'Value' fields for some registers isn't easy. |
| 23:13.21 | cr2_ | TimRiker: they don't piss off their 'business partners' |
| 23:15.08 | cr2_ | TimRiker: i guess they certainly will not release the 3D accel driver as free software. we will see what'll happen with SD. don't know anything about sound. |
| 23:15.20 | dcordes | cr2_, will you require my haret assistance? |
| 23:15.37 | TimRiker | any know any of the developers? I don't yet recognize any of the names. Arve Hjønnevåg, Brian Swetland, Drew Moseley, etc |
| 23:15.53 | cr2_ | swetland is here |
| 23:15.54 | dcordes | swetland, |
| 23:16.17 | TimRiker | ah, sure enough. even cooler. |
| 23:17.32 | dcordes | TimRiker, do you own a kaiser or are planning to get one? |
| 23:17.44 | TimRiker | I have a kaiser, yes. |
| 23:17.52 | dcordes | great |
| 23:18.00 | TimRiker | HTC branded, not the camera castrated at&t version. |
| 23:18.24 | dcordes | I have a german voda brand which has 3M camera |
| 23:18.35 | dcordes | don't care about the text on the housing |
| 23:18.52 | TimRiker | mine "says" 3M. |
| 23:19.53 | TimRiker | 1536x2048 iirc. |
| 23:20.19 | paulproteus | What did AT&T do to the camera? |
| 23:20.27 | dcordes | TimRiker, same here. Good to see another kaiser owner around. Makes us four at the moment: you, Zoolooc, x_bruno and me |
| 23:20.35 | TimRiker | removed the front facing camera. don't know what else. |
| 23:20.55 | TimRiker | I'd love to hear what swetland is developing on. :) |
| 23:21.21 | dcordes | see recent git checking. But who knows what secret blobs he's working on |
| 23:21.34 | dcordes | check ins |
| 23:24.18 | dcordes | bye |
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