IRC log for #htc-linux on 20071209

00:02.27Zoolooccr2_ there is an extension, flashblocker
00:02.53Zooloocthen you only see some buttons instead of flash, and can access them if you want to see that particular flash
00:03.36Zoolooccr2_: it's called "flashblock"
00:07.33cr2_ok.
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03:38.13Pryan2hello
03:45.08Kevin2Hi
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04:09.49dcordeshey Kevin2
04:29.27dcordesKevin2, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO cr2_ updated it
04:35.46Kevin2Ok.
04:35.52Kevin2Good night.
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06:10.17kyppcgeekhello world
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06:21.54kyppcgeekanyone get phone fixed
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14:45.39power_HI
14:45.45Kevin2Hi
14:46.01Zooloochi
14:46.30ZooloocKevin2: any progress in haret supporting Kaiser?
14:47.40power_i have a p3600 with operator brand TIM (not simlock, but brand), I would ask WHY after registration at europe.htc.com i can't download my ROM!
14:48.21Kevin2Zoolooc: Hrmm.  Haret does support Kaiser - it just needs to be extended to include definitions for msm specific registers.  I don't know what the status of that is.
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14:49.36ZooloocKevin2: I guess that's what I actually wanted to ask :-)
14:49.57bd2_pH5, hi! around? I'm looking into gpiolib, that is, I want to convert samcop to use it. is gpiolib lacks to_irq intentionally?
14:50.46Kevin2bd2_: It looks unintentional to me.
14:53.03bd2_I see.. ok, should implement it then
14:54.43power_any linux distro running on HTC p3600?
15:00.05pH5bd2_: yes. david brownell argued that there should be a simple linear mapping and alignment would be the job of board definition.
15:00.40pH5bd2_: but I think he might have changed his mind by now, have a look at Eric Miao's gpio_desc patches on lkml
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15:03.07bd2_found, reading now.. thanks
15:03.58rakeemYay!  Kismet now running on my BA.  220 networks seen in about 90 seconds outside my house!
15:22.48Kevin2pH5: Random FYI - some time back you asked about ignoring bit ranges in haret.  I just ran into the same problem and extended haret to support it.  Latest cvs haret can support:  ibit gpios 34..56
15:26.09rakeemHey Kevin, do you know if there's anything that can be done about the keyboard glitches on the Uni or BA?
15:26.43pH5Kevin2: great, thanks!
15:27.16Kevin2rakeem: It's a driver bug.  I'm supposed to be writing a new driver for Hermes that supposedly will also work on BA.  I don't know about Uni
15:29.14rakeemWow, well it's really the single biggest actual usability issue I've faced.  I'd make a serious go of running Opie full-time if it could be trusted.
15:29.52rakeemIf you give us a new driver you can have my babies.  ;-)
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15:59.03dcordesZoolooc, can you help me getting the irq for wifi?
15:59.35dcordesmy intent with synce yesterday was to achieve this
15:59.54dcordessince I did not manage to get the usb connection I don't have the wifi interrupt
16:02.49cr2_rakeem: uni uses pxa27x_keyboard
16:03.14rakeemcr2: Uh huh...
16:03.28rakeemHow about the BA? Different?
16:05.28Zooloocdcordes: today I managed to get the rndis-host connection working over USB, this is now much easier than with the ipaq module. But You have to use the svn version of the rndis-lite module, there has been recent patching for samsung devices (a timeout problem) and this solves it for the Kaiser, too
16:06.22Zooloocdcordes: with that, just check the "Erweiterte Netzwerk" stuff again, build the usb-rndis-lite module, upon connecting the usb cable you will get a new network interface rndis0 with the IP address 169.254.2.2
16:06.30Zooloocdcordes: the device is then at 169.254.2.1
16:07.52Zooloocdcordes: newer odccm even allows supplying these IPs in the command line, hence, for sure also when starting it as a service
16:08.48rakeemusb-rndis kicks ass.
16:09.07Zooloocyeah, seems so. I couldn't use it until now
16:11.40dcordesI will try it later
16:12.22Zooloocdcordes: sorry I cant help more than that right now
16:12.39dcordeswell if it works that'll be ok
16:12.46dcordesI don't have to rebuild my kernel, do I?
16:12.56ZooloocI think it should, as it's easier to setup
16:13.13dcordesthanks
16:13.41Zooloocno, just svn co the rndis-lite, that builds the needed kernel modules against your current kernel (of course, you need the correctly configured sources of your current kernel)
16:14.30Zooloocbut that should be provided by your distribution, if it's a binary distro like most of them are. I'm using gentoo, building everythiong from sources
16:20.07dcordesok
16:20.09dcordesbbl
16:20.09dcordesbye
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16:31.42x_brunodcordes: hi
16:35.02x_brunohow can I extract a dll from a rom file?
16:37.36x_brunoi tried directly from the htc, but total comander fails to copy
16:41.39x_brunoanybody in here?
17:02.57Kevin2x_bruno: You need to use testwm5 -- google for it.
17:03.43x_brunothanks kevin
17:05.02x_brunoKevin2: does it dump the full rom or specifics?
17:06.28Kevin2x_bruno: It's an ugly hack that tries to extract every file from \windows\
17:06.50x_brunocool, thanks
17:07.11x_brunoKevin2: total commander fails, saying that it cannot extract the file
17:08.04Kevin2x_bruno: Right.  testwm5 attempts to extract certain dll files in a convoluted way that seems to work.
17:08.44x_brunoif there would be a utility to access the rom via a memory pointer, that would do it
17:09.13Kevin2x_bruno: Yes - that is what testwm5 does - it accesses the dll via a memory pointer.
17:09.40Kevin2Oops..  I misunderstood what you're trying to do.
17:10.09x_brunojust extract the file for now
17:10.09Kevin2testwm5 pulls stuff out of a running wince pda.  There are other utilities that can try to decode a rom file.  I'm not familiar with them though.
17:10.18x_brunoah
17:11.49x_brunobut that will do for me :-)
17:15.48cr2_Kevin2: have you added the loox 'c55x' to haret ?
17:16.06cr2_x_bruno: http://hands.com/~lkcl
17:17.13x_brunohi cr2_
17:17.41Kevin2cr2_: I have not - can you send a patch?
17:17.48Kevin2cr2_: Do you want check in access to haret?
17:19.44x_brunocr2_: have you see the "charmed" disassembler?
17:20.56x_brunothe author made a pocket pc version as well as a windows version
17:22.38dcordesx_bruno, hey there
17:23.52dcordesKevin2, cr2_ is the msm register stuff ok yet?
17:23.56dcordesin haretconsole
17:24.06x_brunohi dcordes
17:25.01dcordesx_bruno, you managed to get your dlls?
17:25.18x_brunodumping them now
17:25.21dcordesgreat
17:25.38dcordeswould be great if you could help a bit with irq mapping
17:25.51dcordesdid you install the haretconsole version I sent?
17:26.13x_brunotough is I cannot play much witht the phone today, I left my battery charger in my backpack and brought the wrong one back
17:26.22x_brunowill only see it tomorrow
17:27.15x_brunoI am also encoding simple routines for disassembly
17:27.21dcordesok
17:27.53x_brunoreading through the armv6 architecture book now
17:28.15cr2_Kevin2: i think kiozen send the haretlog to the ML
17:29.41Kevin2cr2_: What do you want to add?  It is already detected as a PXA27x.
17:32.07cr2_the mtype ?
17:32.25Kevin2cr2_: Do you have the mtype?
17:34.14cr2_Kevin2: can you update haret to the latest mach-types ?
17:35.00Kevin2Sure, but not right now.
17:35.18x_brunodcordes: how can I be of help right now
17:35.56dcordesno idea sorry. I think irq and gpio mappings are important
17:36.45cr2_dcordes: did you find new gpios ?
17:37.02dcordescr2_, no I thought I should wait until haretconsole is fixed
17:37.08cr2_ok.
17:37.16dcordesis it useful going on now?
17:37.40cr2_you can you the old one too
17:37.50dcordesok
17:37.53cr2_does 'setlcd' work for you ?
17:38.07dcordesit does but iirc showed no gpio response
17:38.09dcordeslet me retry
17:38.15cr2_playsound ?
17:38.49dcordeswait I'll try right now
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17:41.48dcordesbbiab
17:52.54cr2_bd2_: are you going to join us in the 21th century, and get a htc phone ? :)
18:12.49x_brunocr2_: if I want to watch changes in a memory zone, how to I do it with haRET
18:24.32cr2_addlist mmutrace p2v(0xphysaddr) size
18:25.22x_brunothanks
18:25.38x_brunois there macro support for haRET?
18:25.53Kevin2cr2_: You asked for some more haret examples.  I updated http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApachePhoneTrace
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19:21.05x_brunoKevin2: how long does this dumping usually take_
19:24.37Kevin2x_bruno: testwm5?  It took a long time for me.  Over an hour, I'd say.
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19:25.46dotxhello
19:26.23x_brunothanks, mine is taking a while
19:26.32x_brunohope it wont kill the battery
19:27.01x_brunomaking a disassembler is boring work
19:27.04x_brunobut interesting
19:29.28dcordesx_bruno, you on the go?
19:29.51dcordesoh I remember you have no PS
19:30.32x_brunoPS?
19:30.36dcordespower supply for kaiser
19:30.49x_brunoyeah, will only get it tomorrow
19:31.05x_brunoany new accessories for it like a powerfull batter_
19:31.22dcordesthat would be great
19:31.35dcordeswhen I'm on 3g all time it drains quick
19:31.37bd2_cr2_, lol :-) yes, probably I should. But firstly I have to push h5000.
19:31.57dcordeshaving no htc is being obsolete those days
19:34.18x_brunohey, there is a battery, but it has a different back cover
19:34.25x_bruno2700 mAh
19:35.09dcordeshow much mAh do we have as stock?
19:35.17x_brunohttp://www.supergps.co.uk/htc-tytn-iikaiserp4550-replacement-extended-battery-2700mah-p-3052.html
19:35.28x_brunoon the kaiser, half of it
19:35.30x_bruno1350
19:35.31dcordesneed :D
19:35.42dcordesoh that backcover looks crazy
19:36.07x_brunothat is the glitch, extra power, extra size
19:36.27dcordesmaybe useful for extreme situations ^^
19:37.40dcordescr2_, playsound command shows no watch gpios activity
19:38.06x_brunodcordes: i am working on a disassembler
19:38.12dcordesand I don't think It is one of the two ibit gpios I set because those are spamming all time
19:38.23dcordesx_bruno, let me look up what that is
19:38.50x_brunotranslate machine code to assembler code, in our case armv6 instructions
19:39.12dcordesok
19:39.22x_brunoassembler is very easy
19:39.30x_brunoit is like basic
19:39.34dcordessounds quite useful. are you getting through the cpu manual?
19:40.26x_brunonow I am looking through the architecture manual
19:40.37dcordesCan I assume that the speaker is not connected to one GPIO but to the CPLD if there is no activity on watch gpios when I play a sound?
19:40.39x_brunothe cpu manual I will look at a bit later
19:41.33x_brunodoes haRET have a tool that allows a search for a memory value?
19:41.44x_brunolet me rephrase
19:41.51dcordesthere is watch mmutrace
19:42.03x_brunodoes haRET have a tool that allows a search through the memory for a specific value?
19:42.26dcordeshttp://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation
19:42.31dcordesCatching reads/writes via mmutrace
19:44.21cr2_dcordes: you can trace cpld pins too.
19:44.48x_brunodcordes: did you try console calculator with wine?
19:45.16dcordeshm yes it works fine in wine but don't know how to make use of it
19:46.47Kevin2x_bruno: Not sure what you're asking.  There is no automated way to dump all of memory and find all places with a value.
19:47.04Kevin2If you have a code address, you can use addr2mod to find which module the code address is in.
19:47.17x_brunoKevin2: not to dump, just loop through it
19:47.18dcordescr2_, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO don't know how to put them into the new table format
19:47.30dcordescould you eplain again how to?
19:47.37dcordesexplain
19:47.46Kevin2x_bruno: I still don't understand what you're asking.
19:49.05dcordesWhy is the display backlight state written to three GPIOs?
19:49.34dcordeswould not one sufice? Or are two of them other functions which are called on the backlight on/off action?
19:49.53x_brunoat a given time, loop through each for bytes and compare them with a value
19:50.24x_brunoexample: look "start mem" "end mem" "value
19:50.56x_brunothis would loop through the memory between start and end and compare each word with the given word
19:54.58Kevin2x_bruno: Okay.  No - that is not implemented.  Feel free to send a patch if you do implement it.
19:55.36x_brunook
19:55.39cr2_dcordes: out3-14 means it's an OUTPUT gpio, bank 3 bit 14. i need to add the IO column, obviously
19:56.26dcordescr2_, ah now that's easy
19:56.31dcordeslet me try filling it in
19:56.56dcordescr2_, what about my other question related to the fact that 3 gpios are affected?
19:57.06cr2_the in3-14=X is logical after out3-14=X
19:57.28cr2_i see only 2.
19:57.37cr2_and you don't see any CPLD gpios.
19:57.50cr2_universal has 5 LCD power gpios.
19:57.51dcordesah yes of course i was watching at the irrelevant in brackets numbers
19:58.01x_brunoKevin2: I am working on disassembling routines
19:58.12x_brunohow about a patch for that? or you already have it?
19:58.12cr2_x_bruno: objdump ?
19:58.49x_brunoobjdump would work
19:58.57x_brunothem just loop through results
19:59.02cr2_x_bruno: pH5 has written a python script then also makes constant dereferences.
19:59.11cr2_s/then/that/
19:59.24Kevin2bbl
20:00.25dcordescr2_, could you check if I've done it right?
20:00.39dcordesbye Kevin2
20:01.05x_brunook
20:01.14x_brunobye Kevin2
20:02.35dcordescr2_, I think I should shift over to CPLD analysis
20:15.38dcordescr2_, how to scan CPLD?
20:20.21dcordesAll I know about KAISER CPLD is this "0xb2500000   0xa9800000   0x01   ?KaiserCPLD "
20:20.27dcordesfrom kaiser memory map
20:20.34x_brunowhat is CPLD
20:21.17dcordesit can set hardware commands like the gpios
20:21.27dcordesafaik it is some kind of extension to the gpios
20:22.14dcordesx_bruno, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPLD
20:23.28x_brunothanks
20:24.58dcordeswhere are the overlord when you need them :P
20:25.50dcordesshit after 9 days uptime I crashed my zaurus
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20:28.18rakeemHow can I kill GPE and get back to a cmd line?  (Ctrl+Alt+Bksp style...)
20:28.44dcordesrakeem, ctrl alt bksp makes it restart right?
20:29.01dcordesrakeem, # /etc/init.d/gpe-dm stop
20:29.08dcordeswill do the trick
20:29.41rakeemAh, is there a button combo?  My keyboard and touchscreen are dead...
20:29.57dcordesreboot?
20:30.11rakeemHehe...
20:30.16dcordesfn+left sometimes works on zaurus
20:30.39rakeemRight, similar on the Uni too...
20:30.59rakeemI hope Kevin gets this new keyboard driver sorted...
20:31.16dcordeshow will you do _anything_ with a dead keyboard? Don't see your point
20:31.57rakeemIt's not dead, just the driver's really unstable...  It seems to die after 15-20 mins of use...
20:32.20dcordesthat's odd
20:32.30dcordesget yourself a kaiser :D
20:32.39rakeemIs it?  I'm on a Blueangel...
20:33.35rakeemI'll let you guys play a while longer...  I've no need for another M$ handheld.
20:34.12rakeemHow long do you think you'll take to get a complete (or at least the main) driver set together?
20:34.51dcordesfor kaiser?
20:34.58rakeemYeah...
20:35.05dcordesdon't know
20:35.12dcordesdecades
20:35.31dcordeskaiser needs more people's attention
20:35.39rakeemYeah, sorry, I shouldn't curse it...
20:36.26rakeemI was hell of an impressed last week with the speed that yous attacked the display...
20:37.47rakeemI'm guessing the benefit of experience on other devices allows you guys to attack this low-level stuff much quicker than a year or two ago huh?
20:38.07dcordesI'm very new to all this
20:38.09dcordesnot one of the pro
20:39.20rakeemYeah, I thought you were one of the Guru Gang...  You're on this channel quite a lot though...
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20:40.21dcordesrakeem, because it's of high interest for me to get forward with kaiser
20:40.25rakeemI'm sure everyone thinks their device needs more attention... '-)
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20:40.32dcordesyes sure thing
20:40.48dcordesbut if you have more people with your device, that device gets more attention
20:40.49rakeemI'd really like to see some progress on the smartphones...
20:41.03dcordesyou mean the "old" ones?
20:41.04rakeemYeah, and if the device is nice like the Kaiser...
20:41.21rakeemYeah, the Tornado specifically....
20:42.08rakeemBT, Wifi, GSM, Camera, Mini-SD, QVGA screen.  Would make a hell of a stealth pen-testing tool...
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20:44.55dcordesrakeem, true
20:45.04dcordessounds like your purposes are evil ^^
20:45.22rakeemNot really, I do quite a bit of security work...
20:47.53rakeem...although I suppose my girlfriend might agree as she tends to be the defacto subject of many of my experiments....
20:48.00dcordessharp should make a zaurus phone
20:48.05dcordesalmost 10 days uptime
20:48.16dcordeswith daily use
20:48.52rakeemI've not got a Zaurus.  Is that what I should really be looking at in terms of a fully functioning pocket Linux box, today?
20:49.04dcordesas pda?
20:49.27dcordesmany people say zaurus is shitty and old. If you ask me it's the greatest linux pda you can get
20:49.35rakeemI can't get through a morning without nuking any M$ device...
20:50.05rakeemRunning Opie?
20:50.14dcordesthe keyboard is marvelous
20:50.24dcordesyuck, qt
20:50.29dcordesGPE here
20:51.07dcordesI only use it here and now for browsing though
20:51.12rakeemI've used mostly Opie in the past, but I'm having a go at GPE....
20:51.39rakeemWhat browser, terminal and anything else do you recommend?
20:52.17rakeemEven if it is shitty and old, tell me what commercial alternatives there are...
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20:53.18dcordesrakeem, hmm there is the nokia n810 which also has a keyboard
20:53.36dcordesalso comes with linux (maemo)
20:53.59rakeemAin't that kinda large though... I thought it was about A4 size...
20:54.13dcordesrakeem, I use minimo at the moment, terminal is gpe-terminal
20:54.24dcordesnever held one in my hand
20:54.53rakeemRight, is gpe-terminal different to the rxvt installed as default?
20:54.57dcordeshttp://www.mobilewhack.com/Nokia%20N819.JPG here's one with hand
20:55.44dcordeskeyboard looks less comfortable then zaurus one
20:55.58rakeemUnless I'm just being stupid.  I just need a way to copy and paste...
20:56.20rakeemHoly shit!  It's not the clunky tablet I was thinking...  Is it a phone too?
20:56.59dcordesno phone
20:57.50dcordesrakeem, did you try xmonobutton and its middle mouse function and use the normal mark and paste by middle mouse way?
20:58.16dcordesrakeem, what distro do you run on BA? Angstrom?
20:59.02rakeemAh, the little mouse-taskbar-applet-thingy!
20:59.06dcordesyes right
20:59.08rakeemDoh!
20:59.15rakeemCheers man...
20:59.20dcordesworks for you?
20:59.32rakeemGimme a minute to boot....
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21:00.28dcordesI just tried copying somethin within the same terminal that way
21:00.37dcordesdidn't work- I know itworked once
21:01.06rakeemMaybe the wind's blowing in the wrong direction where you are...
21:01.59dcordesyes it's taking lots of cold air to my location
21:03.12dcordesopie terminal has those fancy copy and paste buttons
21:03.48dcordesbbl though
21:04.14rakeemHehe...  Yeah, that's what I was after...
21:06.05dcordessomebody please let me know how I scan kaiser's CPLD stuff
21:12.44cr2_hm. the gpio func has 4 params.
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21:17.00cr2_dcordes: the CPLD is at 0x98000000
21:17.53rakeemMouse thing didn't work... 9-(
21:18.01cr2_and has some 16bit banks. 0x12/2=9
21:18.09cr2_9 banks, ok.
21:18.13cr2_rakeem: where ?
21:19.06Kevin2Hi
21:19.38cr2_0x180004, 0x180008, c,10,20,30 - this are some MDDI locations.
21:20.26rakeemTrying to find a way to copy/paste commands within GPE...
21:20.33cr2_dcordes: copy the hermes CPLD wiki page. or athena. there are a lot of bits to fill.
21:21.18dcordescr2_, and then, after copying it?
21:21.22cr2_set_cpld(bank,bit,mask)
21:21.42dcordesi added up new cpld between (light sensor)
21:22.03cr2_you can trace the single 16bit CPLD regs, or all together.
21:22.36cr2_Kevin2: is the 9bank htc-egpio decoder platform-independent ?
21:22.50rakeemWow!  But minimo looks sweet!  Cheers dcordes!
21:23.19Kevin2cr2_: htc-egpio should be platform independent -- I'm not sure what you mean by "9bank".
21:23.26dcordesminimo is great yes. You can also try openmoko-browser2 it is webkit based
21:24.03cr2_the python decoder for CPLD gpios. all recent CPLDs have 9 registers.
21:24.13cr2_or maybe 10.
21:24.19cr2_0 - > 0x12
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21:24.43dcordescr2_, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_CPLD
21:24.50Kevin2cr2_: Are you talking about haretconsole?
21:24.52rakeemI shall...  Any other things I should try to impress my geek mates?
21:25.03dcordescr2_, sorry I meant I added up new GPIO
21:25.32dcordesrakeem, openmoko-feedreader2 ?
21:26.26cr2_Kevin2: yes.
21:26.54dcordescr2_, so I can't do anything about cpld yet?
21:26.55Kevin2cr2_: There is no cpld specific logic, nor platform specific logic in haretconsole.
21:27.51cr2_Kevin2: ok, so it should be edited for each machine
21:28.35Kevin2cr2_: Yes.  See haretconsole/regs_pxa.py -
21:28.36Kevin2Regs_Apache = Regs_pxa27x.copy()
21:28.36Kevin2Regs_Apache.update({
21:28.36Kevin2<PROTECTED>
21:28.36Kevin2<PROTECTED>
21:28.36Kevin2<PROTECTED>
21:28.38Kevin2<PROTECTED>
21:28.40Kevin2memalias.RegsList['Apache'] = Regs_Apache
21:30.25cr2_dcordes: you should do the same for kaiser. the only difference is the base address, which is 0x98000000
21:30.41cr2_and not 0x0a000000
21:30.57cr2_the registers go up to 0x12.
21:31.00dcordessorry, the same as what?
21:31.18cr2_as what Kevin2 says for apache.
21:31.34cr2_add that to haretconsole/regs_msm.py
21:31.41dcordesok..
21:32.02dcordesshouldn't one upload machine specific releases for haretconsole?
21:32.15dcordesiirc I already did some changes on the py set here
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21:34.53dcordescr2_, http://pastebin.ca/810367
21:35.13cr2_set_msm_gpio(number,2,0,bit)
21:35.29dcordeshm?
21:36.13cr2_dcordes: go up to 0x12
21:36.29cr2_Regs_pxa27x should be Regs_msm7500
21:36.54dcordescan't find 0x12
21:37.15dcordesyou mean continue the ..0 ..2 ..4 list?
21:37.27dcordesuntil .12?
21:37.42rakeemIs there any way to re-initialise the keyboard driver from the command line?
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21:40.03dcordesx_bruno, how's your dll status?
21:40.18cr2_<es.
21:41.23cr2_cpld(2,4,0/4) is the bt 32K clock
21:41.24dcordescr2_, that way http://pastebin.ca/810375 ?
21:42.15cr2_you forgot a ,c ,e
21:42.36dcordeswhere?
21:42.39cr2_gpio0x65 is bt reset :)
21:42.49cr2_in the CPLD register list.
21:42.53dcordesmaybe save this somewhere so info doesn't get lost
21:43.05dcordescr2_, where exactly?
21:43.12cr2_i'm editing the wiki
21:43.13dcordesIt's ABCDEFG
21:43.17dcordesok
21:43.28cr2_0,2,4,6,8,a,c,e,10,12
21:43.49dcordesI see
21:45.50cr2_the LEDs also have something to do with CPLD
21:46.10dcordesI thought so. There is no GPIO activity on those
21:46.38dcordescr2_, how about that now? http://pastebin.ca/810380
21:47.06dcordescr2_, and how do you get all the info w/o machine? You looking this up in the linux-msm source?
21:47.35dcordesbbiab
21:51.32cr2_dcordes: the 0x5d gpio (in3-25) should be SD detect
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22:01.31cr2_0x14 looks like a CPLD chain irq
22:02.03cr2_should be in1-4
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22:07.41cr2_0x1d0000 and 0x1d0004 are the lcd id related.
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22:09.29cr2_yes, mddi_Rx(0x1d0004) & 5 is the panel ID.
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22:16.41dcordes_cr2_, how did you find all this out?
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22:20.58dcordescr2_, it would make me happy if you could confirm http://pastebin.ca/810380
22:22.59cr2_yes, looks good now.
22:23.11dcordesok how do I make use of it?
22:23.20dcordesas in how do I scan for CPLD events
22:24.07cr2_watch gpios
22:24.24cr2_dcordes: can you check the SD detect gpio ?
22:24.38dcordesis already in kaiser_gpio
22:24.42dcordesah no that's irq
22:26.39dcordescr2_, 3-26
22:27.18dcordesin
22:27.20dcordesin3: in3-26(282)=1
22:27.58cr2_26 ? should be 25 ...
22:28.17dcordesharet says that
22:28.44dcordes0 insert 1 eject
22:28.48cr2_your lcd power gpios match my data.
22:28.53cr2_ok. interesting.
22:29.09dcordeshitting the touchscreen shows nothing
22:29.23dcordesn'either does LED activity
22:32.46dcordescr2_, shall I put SD state gpio into kaiser_gpio?
22:34.33dcordesarrrr playing chord for 4 seconds
22:34.47dcordes~lart chord.wav
22:34.47aptsays "boot to the head" and knocks chord.wav over
22:35.24cr2_ah. sorry. it's my mistake.
22:36.03dcordescr2_, does all my data match your msm researches?
22:36.12cr2_yes.
22:36.20cr2_what is "light sensor" ?
22:36.23dcordes:D
22:36.44cr2_don't edit together with me :)
22:36.47dcordeskaiser class feature: Keyboard backlight only turns on in the dark
22:38.04cr2_ok, so it's like on the universal. do you know the location of the sensor ?
22:38.37dcordesit is on the keyboard layer, top left
22:38.45dcordeslike 1cm left of the Q
22:38.57dcordesreal tiny
22:39.38dcordescr2_, http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b151796.jpg bottom row second image from the right
22:39.49dcordesand right image
22:40.02cr2_ok.
22:40.08cr2_what about the keyboard ?
22:40.29dcordesGPIOS?
22:40.34dcordeseach key spits a lot of output
22:41.01Kevin2cr2_: Hermes has light sensor also.
22:41.25dcordeshttp://pastebin.ca/810428
22:42.21dcordescr2_, as for the IRQ scans, arrow keys are not visible here
22:42.22cr2_dcordes: looks like a matrix keyboard.
22:43.03dcordeshttp://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ
22:43.07dcordessee last line
22:44.32dcordeswhat is a matrix keyboard?
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22:48.52x_brunouau, I missed a lot since I was gone
22:49.07dcordessi
22:49.16dcordeshave a look at kaiser gpio
22:49.22x_brunodcordes: what was that paste bin?
22:49.38x_brunowhat keys were you pressing to get that output?
22:49.52dcordesQWER
22:50.55x_brunofrom lines 01 to 15 that was one key or severall?
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22:51.36dcordesx_bruno, make sure your haretconsole/regs_msm.py looks like this http://pastebin.ca/810380
22:51.53dcordesx_bruno, one hunk=one key
22:52.46x_brunothanks
22:53.04dcordesx_bruno, did you get the haretconsole from the email I sent you?
22:53.28x_brunoyes
22:53.53dcordesk
22:53.54x_brunoi just don't have the battery power, the testwm5 has been ongoing for the last 3 hours or so
22:54.07dcordesseems to be heavy
22:54.18dcordesdidn Kevin2 say on his device it took like one?
22:54.21cr2_dcordes: 4x8 matrix ?
22:55.11cr2_dcordes: how many keys do you have ?
22:55.15dcordes32 :)
22:55.26dcordes30 normal and the two menu ones
22:55.27cr2_ok, sounds good.
22:55.42cr2_1-20,21,22,23 is the row
22:55.55dcordesdon't understand
22:56.09cr2_1-7,14,15,16,17,18,19,23 is the column
22:56.29dcordesahhh those gpio values identify the keys?
22:56.33cr2_3-10 is the irq, or something like that.
22:56.53cr2_yes, you get an irq, and check the row+column
22:57.02dcordesand irq is 28
22:57.10dcordesdoes this sufice for kb driver?
22:57.29cr2_not really, but makes life easier.
22:57.33x_brunoa variable has to be stored for function keys
22:57.44x_brunothere is caps and fn
22:58.00dcordesboth are in the matrix
22:58.05x_brunowhich have to be kept, all you need after is the other keys
22:58.09cr2_i guess swetland will publish the keyboard driver :) it's not that secret i guess.
22:58.12dcordesI guess the key combinations are just a combination of the present matrix
22:58.33dcordescr2_, why would he have one?
22:58.44dcordesdon't say he's developing for kaiser?
22:58.50cr2_i think it#s the same on 7200A
22:59.03cr2_are there any android kernel updates ?
22:59.12dcordesyes many recent ones
22:59.25Tipoloskohi, a quick question.. what is the status about htc tytn linux port? is somehow usable?
22:59.27dcordeshttp://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=summary
23:03.18cr2_Tipolosko: no.
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23:03.40cr2_Tipolosko: but we are working on it.
23:04.38Tipoloskocr2_: can i help ? i have a htc tytn :)
23:05.32cr2_Tipolosko: if you want to do some S3C2442 manual reading, you can check the serial ports.
23:05.55rakeemTippolosko:  Got you all excited huh?  ;-)
23:06.17Tipoloskorakeem: i'll fry my phone in no-time :D
23:06.52rakeemcr2: I found him on #aircrack-ng and told him I had Kismet on my phone...
23:07.17x_brunodcordes, almost finished with data processing instructions
23:07.33rakeemTippolosko:  It's a pretty safe process actually, no hardcore ROM screwing...
23:07.41Tipoloskorakeem: i'm not doing for kismet or similar.. the wifi is not so good on that phone  :P
23:07.50cr2_dcordes: not that much changes. i'll wait for the SD driver. that will be big.
23:08.24cr2_Tipolosko: the wifi on hermes is SDIO. we are not that far.
23:08.25rakeemRight...  I'm sure you've got a million other ideas...
23:09.38Tipoloskorakeem: just imagine gcc on your phone, along with ncurses, a bash shell.. and some other little apps..
23:10.36rakeemDone it.  I was compiling bluetooth tools from source in the pub...  Geektastic!
23:11.08rakeemJust got wireshark running...  Wonder if the screen fits...
23:11.19Tipoloskorakeem: is a joke, i know!
23:11.37rakeemNope.  Seriously.
23:11.49dcordesI bet airodump on qvga sucks
23:11.52Tipolosko*_+
23:12.19rakeemYeah, BA is worse...
23:12.43dcordescr2_, what about display.. Do you think we can get one driver soon?
23:13.04cr2_rakeem: lol. BA has a working wifi :)
23:13.14rakeemOh, I was thinking about the Uni... That's VGA, and it works ok if tiny font is used...
23:13.22cr2_yes.
23:13.22rakeemYAY!!!
23:14.16cr2_dcordes: yes, you need to inspect all these weird MDDI registers.
23:14.28rakeemDecided to build my own kernel, from the instructions on the wiki (easy-peasy)...  SWEET!
23:14.55dcordescr2_, mmutrace?
23:15.10cr2_dcordes: no, it's too difficult.
23:15.18dcordesthat's a downer!
23:15.31cr2_rakeem: do you have a sdio card ?
23:15.40cr2_rakeem: which kernel do you have on the uni ?
23:16.44Tipoloskoharet link in this page aren't working.. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Linux
23:17.18dcordeshttp://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071122.exe
23:17.23cr2_Tipolosko: outdated as hell
23:17.41Tipolosko^_^
23:17.44rakeemSDIO Wifi?  Nope, but I've seen them in the shops...   My Uni was left at a restaurant, although I've another behind me in bits in various plastic bags which needs a new screen...
23:18.01cr2_hehe.
23:18.07cr2_i have sdio gps.
23:18.19dcordesrakeem, do you have a spare one to send me as a gift?
23:18.23cr2_it should probably work with the 2.6.23-24 kernel
23:19.00rakeemI was running 2.6.21
23:19.12cr2_.21 does not support sdio.
23:19.45Tipoloskorakeem: recompile kernel on your phone... it sounds sweet!! :D
23:19.48rakeemdcordes:  No but if you're good I'll give you an iPaq 3630....
23:19.49dcordescr2_, is there no way at all to inspect MDDI registers or did you mean it is too dificult for me?
23:20.03dcordesrakeem, I'm always good
23:20.31cr2_rakeem: does 3630 have asic1 ?
23:20.44rakeemcr2:  I've wondered about this though...  How do you keep the OS running with another card in the slot?
23:21.06cr2_rakeem: you flash the os.
23:21.27cr2_it should work on ba, but i'll wait for pH5 to do it :)
23:21.32cr2_lol. on my ba.
23:21.34rakeemCOVER YOUR EARS Tippolosko!
23:22.06cr2_hehe. NAND driver on hermes is not working as expected.
23:22.55rakeemcr2:  Funny you should ask...  I came across a 3630 board the other day and noticed an HTC IC...
23:23.16Tipoloskorakeem: wOW, an utility to skew up htc tytn phone.. let's try! :D
23:23.29rakeemLooked again.  Yep.  It says V1.0 quite clearly...
23:23.36cr2_rakeem: can you check the asic number ?
23:23.59cr2_i wish i could get a wallaby somewhere :)
23:24.32cr2_the port was stuck because nobody could write the SD driver for it.
23:25.36rakeemcr2:  30H9008580     then     F00500844   V1.0
23:25.59Tipoloskocr2_: there is some linux kernel to try in hermes? just to see how lovely crashes (i suppose)
23:26.55cr2_Tipolosko: you can boot it of the ramdisk. then you can login over usb. nothng will carsh.
23:26.58rakeemcr2:  I could prolly pick up a Wallaby for you....
23:27.38cr2_rakeem: i have hima/ba/uni/sable/hermes/athena.
23:27.46rakeemWe've got a wicked market street here where technological marvels go to die...
23:27.54rakeem... or be reincarnated...
23:28.00cr2_but keeping only athena and uni.
23:28.21cr2_yeah, i doubt it costs a lot.
23:28.23rakeemcr2:  You after the full set?
23:28.28cr2_no.
23:28.39cr2_these are mostly pxa phones.
23:28.50cr2_well, hermes is the exception.
23:29.01cr2_but it's not mine after all.
23:29.20cr2_and athena is the last pxa phone
23:29.30rakeemAh...  Okay, if I see one for less than US$60 shall I grab it?
23:29.34cr2_i don't have any omap850 and msm7200 phones.
23:29.52cr2_rakeem: how can i transfer you the money ???
23:30.23cr2_us$60 how much euro is that ? 40 ?
23:30.49Tipolosko42-43..
23:30.56rakeemDunno...  How do these things usually work?  I can set up paypal I suppose...
23:31.37cr2_i don't have a credit card.
23:31.46Tipoloskopaypal will eat 3,5% of your money..
23:31.50rakeemI've also got a Whorenado which is omap based...  I'd like to see more interest in the smartphones overall...
23:32.06x_brunook guys
23:32.07rakeemDo they?  What country you in?
23:32.09x_brunohave fun
23:32.20rakeemBb Bruno...
23:32.59rakeem...maybe the bank can transfer...  HSBC?
23:33.07Tipoloskorakeem: money transfer within italy is ~3,5%
23:33.15cr2_artemis is the most interesting ompa850 phone, but it's as big as hermes ?
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23:33.37cr2_Tipolosko: it's robbery.
23:33.38dcordescr2_, prophet is also neat
23:33.42Tipoloskointernational bank transfer between italy and germany: 8€ (but may vary, i suppose!)
23:33.50Tipoloskocr2_: i know O_o
23:34.02Tipoloskoyou can use western union
23:34.20cr2_Tipolosko: i think it does not cost anything. well, maybe if you transfer cash.
23:34.33rakeemThey're the worst rapists of the lot...
23:35.19Tipoloskorakeem: just give a gift to cr2_! :P
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23:37.11cr2_rakeem: hmm. but how high is the postage rate ?
23:37.11rakeemHehe...  Of course, if I see one cheap, I was thinking more about ongoing though...  I'd like to help, if I can, with the Hong Kong / China connection....  If people need spares / used units etc...
23:38.13dcordescr2_, what about mddi registers? How will we go on about this?
23:38.21Tipoloskorakeem: i need spares / used units... hermes-like, because mine will not get back from my stresstest
23:38.31Tipolosko^_^
23:38.38rakeemPostage from here is good and cheap.  One thing the British left HK with was a decent postal system...
23:39.19rakeemTippolosko:  Serious?
23:39.33Tipoloskorakeem: no, not for now :) Thanks :)
23:40.05Tipoloskobut i'll do some tests on my htc seriously..
23:40.16Tipoloskoso.. i'll report you back :)
23:40.25cr2_dcordes: i'll look what the SPL is doing. does the android driver check for mddi regs ?
23:40.56dcordescr2_, no idea, which driver?
23:41.13Tipoloskommm going to sleep...
23:41.29dcordesTipolosko, cya
23:41.29Tipoloskorakeem: cr2_: are you always there on #htc-linux ?
23:41.34Tipolosko^_^
23:41.46Tipoloskofor dcordes too :)
23:42.06cr2_Tipolosko: yes.
23:42.19rakeemcr2 is one of the main gurus round here...  I've been on and off for a few months now...
23:42.19cr2_dcordes: drivers/video/msm/something*
23:42.56rakeemGlad to have piqued your interest Tippolosko...  Spread the word man...
23:43.16rakeemAnd shit.  Yes.  Wireshark works beautifully!
23:43.22dcordescr2_, there's a lot in the video drivers dir
23:43.34Tipoloskorakeem: it's like a virus.. i'll destroy my phone, i'll tell to friends and thei'll destroy his phone!
23:43.36Tipolosko^_^
23:43.43Tipoloskothanks rakeem, cr2_, dcordes
23:43.45dcordesrakeem, check out ettercap-ng (added recipe to OE)
23:44.04rakeemYeah, I've got a box of casualties going back a while...
23:44.13Tipoloskoettercap?!? Super-Awesome! (strange word.. does it exist?)
23:44.34rakeemYeah, I was running it on the Uni...
23:44.43Tipoloskobyebye
23:44.45dcordeshaha serious pentest application eh?
23:44.49Tipoloskosee you tomorror (i hope)
23:45.05Tipoloskotomorror? tomorrow! i need to sleep NOW
23:45.09Tipoloskobye :)
23:45.17rakeemBye man... See you around!
23:46.18rakeemdcordes:  If I told you you'd be dead in 24 hours.  Your IP is now on The List.
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23:47.29dcordesI hope german state will not sue me for making ettercap-ng recipe
23:48.10rakeemHaven't you heard?  The Kismac guys are getting the firing squad..
23:48.39dcordesgosh http://kismac.de/
23:49.32rakeemIt's a real black mark on Germany's otherwise venerable geek culture...  That country ruled my youth on the C64 and Amiga...
23:52.21dcordescr2_, I greped the dir and only found MDDI/mddi in a binary file
23:52.24rakeemForty lashes for Nmap too...
23:52.36dcordesyes.. so sick
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