00:02.27 | Zoolooc | cr2_ there is an extension, flashblocker |
00:02.53 | Zoolooc | then you only see some buttons instead of flash, and can access them if you want to see that particular flash |
00:03.36 | Zoolooc | cr2_: it's called "flashblock" |
00:07.33 | cr2_ | ok. |
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03:38.13 | Pryan2 | hello |
03:45.08 | Kevin2 | Hi |
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04:09.49 | dcordes | hey Kevin2 |
04:29.27 | dcordes | Kevin2, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO cr2_ updated it |
04:35.46 | Kevin2 | Ok. |
04:35.52 | Kevin2 | Good night. |
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06:10.17 | kyppcgeek | hello world |
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14:45.39 | power_ | HI |
14:45.45 | Kevin2 | Hi |
14:46.01 | Zoolooc | hi |
14:46.30 | Zoolooc | Kevin2: any progress in haret supporting Kaiser? |
14:47.40 | power_ | i have a p3600 with operator brand TIM (not simlock, but brand), I would ask WHY after registration at europe.htc.com i can't download my ROM! |
14:48.21 | Kevin2 | Zoolooc: Hrmm. Haret does support Kaiser - it just needs to be extended to include definitions for msm specific registers. I don't know what the status of that is. |
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14:49.36 | Zoolooc | Kevin2: I guess that's what I actually wanted to ask :-) |
14:49.57 | bd2_ | pH5, hi! around? I'm looking into gpiolib, that is, I want to convert samcop to use it. is gpiolib lacks to_irq intentionally? |
14:50.46 | Kevin2 | bd2_: It looks unintentional to me. |
14:53.03 | bd2_ | I see.. ok, should implement it then |
14:54.43 | power_ | any linux distro running on HTC p3600? |
15:00.05 | pH5 | bd2_: yes. david brownell argued that there should be a simple linear mapping and alignment would be the job of board definition. |
15:00.40 | pH5 | bd2_: but I think he might have changed his mind by now, have a look at Eric Miao's gpio_desc patches on lkml |
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15:03.07 | bd2_ | found, reading now.. thanks |
15:03.58 | rakeem | Yay! Kismet now running on my BA. 220 networks seen in about 90 seconds outside my house! |
15:22.48 | Kevin2 | pH5: Random FYI - some time back you asked about ignoring bit ranges in haret. I just ran into the same problem and extended haret to support it. Latest cvs haret can support: ibit gpios 34..56 |
15:26.09 | rakeem | Hey Kevin, do you know if there's anything that can be done about the keyboard glitches on the Uni or BA? |
15:26.43 | pH5 | Kevin2: great, thanks! |
15:27.16 | Kevin2 | rakeem: It's a driver bug. I'm supposed to be writing a new driver for Hermes that supposedly will also work on BA. I don't know about Uni |
15:29.14 | rakeem | Wow, well it's really the single biggest actual usability issue I've faced. I'd make a serious go of running Opie full-time if it could be trusted. |
15:29.52 | rakeem | If you give us a new driver you can have my babies. ;-) |
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15:59.03 | dcordes | Zoolooc, can you help me getting the irq for wifi? |
15:59.35 | dcordes | my intent with synce yesterday was to achieve this |
15:59.54 | dcordes | since I did not manage to get the usb connection I don't have the wifi interrupt |
16:02.49 | cr2_ | rakeem: uni uses pxa27x_keyboard |
16:03.14 | rakeem | cr2: Uh huh... |
16:03.28 | rakeem | How about the BA? Different? |
16:05.28 | Zoolooc | dcordes: today I managed to get the rndis-host connection working over USB, this is now much easier than with the ipaq module. But You have to use the svn version of the rndis-lite module, there has been recent patching for samsung devices (a timeout problem) and this solves it for the Kaiser, too |
16:06.22 | Zoolooc | dcordes: with that, just check the "Erweiterte Netzwerk" stuff again, build the usb-rndis-lite module, upon connecting the usb cable you will get a new network interface rndis0 with the IP address 169.254.2.2 |
16:06.30 | Zoolooc | dcordes: the device is then at 169.254.2.1 |
16:07.52 | Zoolooc | dcordes: newer odccm even allows supplying these IPs in the command line, hence, for sure also when starting it as a service |
16:08.48 | rakeem | usb-rndis kicks ass. |
16:09.07 | Zoolooc | yeah, seems so. I couldn't use it until now |
16:11.40 | dcordes | I will try it later |
16:12.22 | Zoolooc | dcordes: sorry I cant help more than that right now |
16:12.39 | dcordes | well if it works that'll be ok |
16:12.46 | dcordes | I don't have to rebuild my kernel, do I? |
16:12.56 | Zoolooc | I think it should, as it's easier to setup |
16:13.13 | dcordes | thanks |
16:13.41 | Zoolooc | no, just svn co the rndis-lite, that builds the needed kernel modules against your current kernel (of course, you need the correctly configured sources of your current kernel) |
16:14.30 | Zoolooc | but that should be provided by your distribution, if it's a binary distro like most of them are. I'm using gentoo, building everythiong from sources |
16:20.07 | dcordes | ok |
16:20.09 | dcordes | bbl |
16:20.09 | dcordes | bye |
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16:31.42 | x_bruno | dcordes: hi |
16:35.02 | x_bruno | how can I extract a dll from a rom file? |
16:37.36 | x_bruno | i tried directly from the htc, but total comander fails to copy |
16:41.39 | x_bruno | anybody in here? |
17:02.57 | Kevin2 | x_bruno: You need to use testwm5 -- google for it. |
17:03.43 | x_bruno | thanks kevin |
17:05.02 | x_bruno | Kevin2: does it dump the full rom or specifics? |
17:06.28 | Kevin2 | x_bruno: It's an ugly hack that tries to extract every file from \windows\ |
17:06.50 | x_bruno | cool, thanks |
17:07.11 | x_bruno | Kevin2: total commander fails, saying that it cannot extract the file |
17:08.04 | Kevin2 | x_bruno: Right. testwm5 attempts to extract certain dll files in a convoluted way that seems to work. |
17:08.44 | x_bruno | if there would be a utility to access the rom via a memory pointer, that would do it |
17:09.13 | Kevin2 | x_bruno: Yes - that is what testwm5 does - it accesses the dll via a memory pointer. |
17:09.40 | Kevin2 | Oops.. I misunderstood what you're trying to do. |
17:10.09 | x_bruno | just extract the file for now |
17:10.09 | Kevin2 | testwm5 pulls stuff out of a running wince pda. There are other utilities that can try to decode a rom file. I'm not familiar with them though. |
17:10.18 | x_bruno | ah |
17:11.49 | x_bruno | but that will do for me :-) |
17:15.48 | cr2_ | Kevin2: have you added the loox 'c55x' to haret ? |
17:16.06 | cr2_ | x_bruno: http://hands.com/~lkcl |
17:17.13 | x_bruno | hi cr2_ |
17:17.41 | Kevin2 | cr2_: I have not - can you send a patch? |
17:17.48 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Do you want check in access to haret? |
17:19.44 | x_bruno | cr2_: have you see the "charmed" disassembler? |
17:20.56 | x_bruno | the author made a pocket pc version as well as a windows version |
17:22.38 | dcordes | x_bruno, hey there |
17:23.52 | dcordes | Kevin2, cr2_ is the msm register stuff ok yet? |
17:23.56 | dcordes | in haretconsole |
17:24.06 | x_bruno | hi dcordes |
17:25.01 | dcordes | x_bruno, you managed to get your dlls? |
17:25.18 | x_bruno | dumping them now |
17:25.21 | dcordes | great |
17:25.38 | dcordes | would be great if you could help a bit with irq mapping |
17:25.51 | dcordes | did you install the haretconsole version I sent? |
17:26.13 | x_bruno | tough is I cannot play much witht the phone today, I left my battery charger in my backpack and brought the wrong one back |
17:26.22 | x_bruno | will only see it tomorrow |
17:27.15 | x_bruno | I am also encoding simple routines for disassembly |
17:27.21 | dcordes | ok |
17:27.53 | x_bruno | reading through the armv6 architecture book now |
17:28.15 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i think kiozen send the haretlog to the ML |
17:29.41 | Kevin2 | cr2_: What do you want to add? It is already detected as a PXA27x. |
17:32.07 | cr2_ | the mtype ? |
17:32.25 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Do you have the mtype? |
17:34.14 | cr2_ | Kevin2: can you update haret to the latest mach-types ? |
17:35.00 | Kevin2 | Sure, but not right now. |
17:35.18 | x_bruno | dcordes: how can I be of help right now |
17:35.56 | dcordes | no idea sorry. I think irq and gpio mappings are important |
17:36.45 | cr2_ | dcordes: did you find new gpios ? |
17:37.02 | dcordes | cr2_, no I thought I should wait until haretconsole is fixed |
17:37.08 | cr2_ | ok. |
17:37.16 | dcordes | is it useful going on now? |
17:37.40 | cr2_ | you can you the old one too |
17:37.50 | dcordes | ok |
17:37.53 | cr2_ | does 'setlcd' work for you ? |
17:38.07 | dcordes | it does but iirc showed no gpio response |
17:38.09 | dcordes | let me retry |
17:38.15 | cr2_ | playsound ? |
17:38.49 | dcordes | wait I'll try right now |
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17:41.48 | dcordes | bbiab |
17:52.54 | cr2_ | bd2_: are you going to join us in the 21th century, and get a htc phone ? :) |
18:12.49 | x_bruno | cr2_: if I want to watch changes in a memory zone, how to I do it with haRET |
18:24.32 | cr2_ | addlist mmutrace p2v(0xphysaddr) size |
18:25.22 | x_bruno | thanks |
18:25.38 | x_bruno | is there macro support for haRET? |
18:25.53 | Kevin2 | cr2_: You asked for some more haret examples. I updated http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApachePhoneTrace |
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19:21.05 | x_bruno | Kevin2: how long does this dumping usually take_ |
19:24.37 | Kevin2 | x_bruno: testwm5? It took a long time for me. Over an hour, I'd say. |
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19:25.46 | dotx | hello |
19:26.23 | x_bruno | thanks, mine is taking a while |
19:26.32 | x_bruno | hope it wont kill the battery |
19:27.01 | x_bruno | making a disassembler is boring work |
19:27.04 | x_bruno | but interesting |
19:29.28 | dcordes | x_bruno, you on the go? |
19:29.51 | dcordes | oh I remember you have no PS |
19:30.32 | x_bruno | PS? |
19:30.36 | dcordes | power supply for kaiser |
19:30.49 | x_bruno | yeah, will only get it tomorrow |
19:31.05 | x_bruno | any new accessories for it like a powerfull batter_ |
19:31.22 | dcordes | that would be great |
19:31.35 | dcordes | when I'm on 3g all time it drains quick |
19:31.37 | bd2_ | cr2_, lol :-) yes, probably I should. But firstly I have to push h5000. |
19:31.57 | dcordes | having no htc is being obsolete those days |
19:34.18 | x_bruno | hey, there is a battery, but it has a different back cover |
19:34.25 | x_bruno | 2700 mAh |
19:35.09 | dcordes | how much mAh do we have as stock? |
19:35.17 | x_bruno | http://www.supergps.co.uk/htc-tytn-iikaiserp4550-replacement-extended-battery-2700mah-p-3052.html |
19:35.28 | x_bruno | on the kaiser, half of it |
19:35.30 | x_bruno | 1350 |
19:35.31 | dcordes | need :D |
19:35.42 | dcordes | oh that backcover looks crazy |
19:36.07 | x_bruno | that is the glitch, extra power, extra size |
19:36.27 | dcordes | maybe useful for extreme situations ^^ |
19:37.40 | dcordes | cr2_, playsound command shows no watch gpios activity |
19:38.06 | x_bruno | dcordes: i am working on a disassembler |
19:38.12 | dcordes | and I don't think It is one of the two ibit gpios I set because those are spamming all time |
19:38.23 | dcordes | x_bruno, let me look up what that is |
19:38.50 | x_bruno | translate machine code to assembler code, in our case armv6 instructions |
19:39.12 | dcordes | ok |
19:39.22 | x_bruno | assembler is very easy |
19:39.30 | x_bruno | it is like basic |
19:39.34 | dcordes | sounds quite useful. are you getting through the cpu manual? |
19:40.26 | x_bruno | now I am looking through the architecture manual |
19:40.37 | dcordes | Can I assume that the speaker is not connected to one GPIO but to the CPLD if there is no activity on watch gpios when I play a sound? |
19:40.39 | x_bruno | the cpu manual I will look at a bit later |
19:41.33 | x_bruno | does haRET have a tool that allows a search for a memory value? |
19:41.44 | x_bruno | let me rephrase |
19:41.51 | dcordes | there is watch mmutrace |
19:42.03 | x_bruno | does haRET have a tool that allows a search through the memory for a specific value? |
19:42.26 | dcordes | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
19:42.31 | dcordes | Catching reads/writes via mmutrace |
19:44.21 | cr2_ | dcordes: you can trace cpld pins too. |
19:44.48 | x_bruno | dcordes: did you try console calculator with wine? |
19:45.16 | dcordes | hm yes it works fine in wine but don't know how to make use of it |
19:46.47 | Kevin2 | x_bruno: Not sure what you're asking. There is no automated way to dump all of memory and find all places with a value. |
19:47.04 | Kevin2 | If you have a code address, you can use addr2mod to find which module the code address is in. |
19:47.17 | x_bruno | Kevin2: not to dump, just loop through it |
19:47.18 | dcordes | cr2_, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO don't know how to put them into the new table format |
19:47.30 | dcordes | could you eplain again how to? |
19:47.37 | dcordes | explain |
19:47.46 | Kevin2 | x_bruno: I still don't understand what you're asking. |
19:49.05 | dcordes | Why is the display backlight state written to three GPIOs? |
19:49.34 | dcordes | would not one sufice? Or are two of them other functions which are called on the backlight on/off action? |
19:49.53 | x_bruno | at a given time, loop through each for bytes and compare them with a value |
19:50.24 | x_bruno | example: look "start mem" "end mem" "value |
19:50.56 | x_bruno | this would loop through the memory between start and end and compare each word with the given word |
19:54.58 | Kevin2 | x_bruno: Okay. No - that is not implemented. Feel free to send a patch if you do implement it. |
19:55.36 | x_bruno | ok |
19:55.39 | cr2_ | dcordes: out3-14 means it's an OUTPUT gpio, bank 3 bit 14. i need to add the IO column, obviously |
19:56.26 | dcordes | cr2_, ah now that's easy |
19:56.31 | dcordes | let me try filling it in |
19:56.56 | dcordes | cr2_, what about my other question related to the fact that 3 gpios are affected? |
19:57.06 | cr2_ | the in3-14=X is logical after out3-14=X |
19:57.28 | cr2_ | i see only 2. |
19:57.37 | cr2_ | and you don't see any CPLD gpios. |
19:57.50 | cr2_ | universal has 5 LCD power gpios. |
19:57.51 | dcordes | ah yes of course i was watching at the irrelevant in brackets numbers |
19:58.01 | x_bruno | Kevin2: I am working on disassembling routines |
19:58.12 | x_bruno | how about a patch for that? or you already have it? |
19:58.12 | cr2_ | x_bruno: objdump ? |
19:58.49 | x_bruno | objdump would work |
19:58.57 | x_bruno | them just loop through results |
19:59.02 | cr2_ | x_bruno: pH5 has written a python script then also makes constant dereferences. |
19:59.11 | cr2_ | s/then/that/ |
19:59.24 | Kevin2 | bbl |
20:00.25 | dcordes | cr2_, could you check if I've done it right? |
20:00.39 | dcordes | bye Kevin2 |
20:01.05 | x_bruno | ok |
20:01.14 | x_bruno | bye Kevin2 |
20:02.35 | dcordes | cr2_, I think I should shift over to CPLD analysis |
20:15.38 | dcordes | cr2_, how to scan CPLD? |
20:20.21 | dcordes | All I know about KAISER CPLD is this "0xb2500000 0xa9800000 0x01 ?KaiserCPLD " |
20:20.27 | dcordes | from kaiser memory map |
20:20.34 | x_bruno | what is CPLD |
20:21.17 | dcordes | it can set hardware commands like the gpios |
20:21.27 | dcordes | afaik it is some kind of extension to the gpios |
20:22.14 | dcordes | x_bruno, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPLD |
20:23.28 | x_bruno | thanks |
20:24.58 | dcordes | where are the overlord when you need them :P |
20:25.50 | dcordes | shit after 9 days uptime I crashed my zaurus |
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20:28.18 | rakeem | How can I kill GPE and get back to a cmd line? (Ctrl+Alt+Bksp style...) |
20:28.44 | dcordes | rakeem, ctrl alt bksp makes it restart right? |
20:29.01 | dcordes | rakeem, # /etc/init.d/gpe-dm stop |
20:29.08 | dcordes | will do the trick |
20:29.41 | rakeem | Ah, is there a button combo? My keyboard and touchscreen are dead... |
20:29.57 | dcordes | reboot? |
20:30.11 | rakeem | Hehe... |
20:30.16 | dcordes | fn+left sometimes works on zaurus |
20:30.39 | rakeem | Right, similar on the Uni too... |
20:30.59 | rakeem | I hope Kevin gets this new keyboard driver sorted... |
20:31.16 | dcordes | how will you do _anything_ with a dead keyboard? Don't see your point |
20:31.57 | rakeem | It's not dead, just the driver's really unstable... It seems to die after 15-20 mins of use... |
20:32.20 | dcordes | that's odd |
20:32.30 | dcordes | get yourself a kaiser :D |
20:32.39 | rakeem | Is it? I'm on a Blueangel... |
20:33.35 | rakeem | I'll let you guys play a while longer... I've no need for another M$ handheld. |
20:34.12 | rakeem | How long do you think you'll take to get a complete (or at least the main) driver set together? |
20:34.51 | dcordes | for kaiser? |
20:34.58 | rakeem | Yeah... |
20:35.05 | dcordes | don't know |
20:35.12 | dcordes | decades |
20:35.31 | dcordes | kaiser needs more people's attention |
20:35.39 | rakeem | Yeah, sorry, I shouldn't curse it... |
20:36.26 | rakeem | I was hell of an impressed last week with the speed that yous attacked the display... |
20:37.47 | rakeem | I'm guessing the benefit of experience on other devices allows you guys to attack this low-level stuff much quicker than a year or two ago huh? |
20:38.07 | dcordes | I'm very new to all this |
20:38.09 | dcordes | not one of the pro |
20:39.20 | rakeem | Yeah, I thought you were one of the Guru Gang... You're on this channel quite a lot though... |
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20:40.21 | dcordes | rakeem, because it's of high interest for me to get forward with kaiser |
20:40.25 | rakeem | I'm sure everyone thinks their device needs more attention... '-) |
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20:40.32 | dcordes | yes sure thing |
20:40.48 | dcordes | but if you have more people with your device, that device gets more attention |
20:40.49 | rakeem | I'd really like to see some progress on the smartphones... |
20:41.03 | dcordes | you mean the "old" ones? |
20:41.04 | rakeem | Yeah, and if the device is nice like the Kaiser... |
20:41.21 | rakeem | Yeah, the Tornado specifically.... |
20:42.08 | rakeem | BT, Wifi, GSM, Camera, Mini-SD, QVGA screen. Would make a hell of a stealth pen-testing tool... |
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20:44.55 | dcordes | rakeem, true |
20:45.04 | dcordes | sounds like your purposes are evil ^^ |
20:45.22 | rakeem | Not really, I do quite a bit of security work... |
20:47.53 | rakeem | ...although I suppose my girlfriend might agree as she tends to be the defacto subject of many of my experiments.... |
20:48.00 | dcordes | sharp should make a zaurus phone |
20:48.05 | dcordes | almost 10 days uptime |
20:48.16 | dcordes | with daily use |
20:48.52 | rakeem | I've not got a Zaurus. Is that what I should really be looking at in terms of a fully functioning pocket Linux box, today? |
20:49.04 | dcordes | as pda? |
20:49.27 | dcordes | many people say zaurus is shitty and old. If you ask me it's the greatest linux pda you can get |
20:49.35 | rakeem | I can't get through a morning without nuking any M$ device... |
20:50.05 | rakeem | Running Opie? |
20:50.14 | dcordes | the keyboard is marvelous |
20:50.24 | dcordes | yuck, qt |
20:50.29 | dcordes | GPE here |
20:51.07 | dcordes | I only use it here and now for browsing though |
20:51.12 | rakeem | I've used mostly Opie in the past, but I'm having a go at GPE.... |
20:51.39 | rakeem | What browser, terminal and anything else do you recommend? |
20:52.17 | rakeem | Even if it is shitty and old, tell me what commercial alternatives there are... |
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20:53.18 | dcordes | rakeem, hmm there is the nokia n810 which also has a keyboard |
20:53.36 | dcordes | also comes with linux (maemo) |
20:53.59 | rakeem | Ain't that kinda large though... I thought it was about A4 size... |
20:54.13 | dcordes | rakeem, I use minimo at the moment, terminal is gpe-terminal |
20:54.24 | dcordes | never held one in my hand |
20:54.53 | rakeem | Right, is gpe-terminal different to the rxvt installed as default? |
20:54.57 | dcordes | http://www.mobilewhack.com/Nokia%20N819.JPG here's one with hand |
20:55.44 | dcordes | keyboard looks less comfortable then zaurus one |
20:55.58 | rakeem | Unless I'm just being stupid. I just need a way to copy and paste... |
20:56.20 | rakeem | Holy shit! It's not the clunky tablet I was thinking... Is it a phone too? |
20:56.59 | dcordes | no phone |
20:57.50 | dcordes | rakeem, did you try xmonobutton and its middle mouse function and use the normal mark and paste by middle mouse way? |
20:58.16 | dcordes | rakeem, what distro do you run on BA? Angstrom? |
20:59.02 | rakeem | Ah, the little mouse-taskbar-applet-thingy! |
20:59.06 | dcordes | yes right |
20:59.08 | rakeem | Doh! |
20:59.15 | rakeem | Cheers man... |
20:59.20 | dcordes | works for you? |
20:59.32 | rakeem | Gimme a minute to boot.... |
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21:00.28 | dcordes | I just tried copying somethin within the same terminal that way |
21:00.37 | dcordes | didn't work- I know itworked once |
21:01.06 | rakeem | Maybe the wind's blowing in the wrong direction where you are... |
21:01.59 | dcordes | yes it's taking lots of cold air to my location |
21:03.12 | dcordes | opie terminal has those fancy copy and paste buttons |
21:03.48 | dcordes | bbl though |
21:04.14 | rakeem | Hehe... Yeah, that's what I was after... |
21:06.05 | dcordes | somebody please let me know how I scan kaiser's CPLD stuff |
21:12.44 | cr2_ | hm. the gpio func has 4 params. |
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21:17.00 | cr2_ | dcordes: the CPLD is at 0x98000000 |
21:17.53 | rakeem | Mouse thing didn't work... 9-( |
21:18.01 | cr2_ | and has some 16bit banks. 0x12/2=9 |
21:18.09 | cr2_ | 9 banks, ok. |
21:18.13 | cr2_ | rakeem: where ? |
21:19.06 | Kevin2 | Hi |
21:19.38 | cr2_ | 0x180004, 0x180008, c,10,20,30 - this are some MDDI locations. |
21:20.26 | rakeem | Trying to find a way to copy/paste commands within GPE... |
21:20.33 | cr2_ | dcordes: copy the hermes CPLD wiki page. or athena. there are a lot of bits to fill. |
21:21.18 | dcordes | cr2_, and then, after copying it? |
21:21.22 | cr2_ | set_cpld(bank,bit,mask) |
21:21.42 | dcordes | i added up new cpld between (light sensor) |
21:22.03 | cr2_ | you can trace the single 16bit CPLD regs, or all together. |
21:22.36 | cr2_ | Kevin2: is the 9bank htc-egpio decoder platform-independent ? |
21:22.50 | rakeem | Wow! But minimo looks sweet! Cheers dcordes! |
21:23.19 | Kevin2 | cr2_: htc-egpio should be platform independent -- I'm not sure what you mean by "9bank". |
21:23.26 | dcordes | minimo is great yes. You can also try openmoko-browser2 it is webkit based |
21:24.03 | cr2_ | the python decoder for CPLD gpios. all recent CPLDs have 9 registers. |
21:24.13 | cr2_ | or maybe 10. |
21:24.19 | cr2_ | 0 - > 0x12 |
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21:24.43 | dcordes | cr2_, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_CPLD |
21:24.50 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Are you talking about haretconsole? |
21:24.52 | rakeem | I shall... Any other things I should try to impress my geek mates? |
21:25.03 | dcordes | cr2_, sorry I meant I added up new GPIO |
21:25.32 | dcordes | rakeem, openmoko-feedreader2 ? |
21:26.26 | cr2_ | Kevin2: yes. |
21:26.54 | dcordes | cr2_, so I can't do anything about cpld yet? |
21:26.55 | Kevin2 | cr2_: There is no cpld specific logic, nor platform specific logic in haretconsole. |
21:27.51 | cr2_ | Kevin2: ok, so it should be edited for each machine |
21:28.35 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Yes. See haretconsole/regs_pxa.py - |
21:28.36 | Kevin2 | Regs_Apache = Regs_pxa27x.copy() |
21:28.36 | Kevin2 | Regs_Apache.update({ |
21:28.36 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
21:28.36 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
21:28.36 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
21:28.38 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
21:28.40 | Kevin2 | memalias.RegsList['Apache'] = Regs_Apache |
21:30.25 | cr2_ | dcordes: you should do the same for kaiser. the only difference is the base address, which is 0x98000000 |
21:30.41 | cr2_ | and not 0x0a000000 |
21:30.57 | cr2_ | the registers go up to 0x12. |
21:31.00 | dcordes | sorry, the same as what? |
21:31.18 | cr2_ | as what Kevin2 says for apache. |
21:31.34 | cr2_ | add that to haretconsole/regs_msm.py |
21:31.41 | dcordes | ok.. |
21:32.02 | dcordes | shouldn't one upload machine specific releases for haretconsole? |
21:32.15 | dcordes | iirc I already did some changes on the py set here |
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21:34.53 | dcordes | cr2_, http://pastebin.ca/810367 |
21:35.13 | cr2_ | set_msm_gpio(number,2,0,bit) |
21:35.29 | dcordes | hm? |
21:36.13 | cr2_ | dcordes: go up to 0x12 |
21:36.29 | cr2_ | Regs_pxa27x should be Regs_msm7500 |
21:36.54 | dcordes | can't find 0x12 |
21:37.15 | dcordes | you mean continue the ..0 ..2 ..4 list? |
21:37.27 | dcordes | until .12? |
21:37.42 | rakeem | Is there any way to re-initialise the keyboard driver from the command line? |
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21:40.03 | dcordes | x_bruno, how's your dll status? |
21:40.18 | cr2_ | <es. |
21:41.23 | cr2_ | cpld(2,4,0/4) is the bt 32K clock |
21:41.24 | dcordes | cr2_, that way http://pastebin.ca/810375 ? |
21:42.15 | cr2_ | you forgot a ,c ,e |
21:42.36 | dcordes | where? |
21:42.39 | cr2_ | gpio0x65 is bt reset :) |
21:42.49 | cr2_ | in the CPLD register list. |
21:42.53 | dcordes | maybe save this somewhere so info doesn't get lost |
21:43.05 | dcordes | cr2_, where exactly? |
21:43.12 | cr2_ | i'm editing the wiki |
21:43.13 | dcordes | It's ABCDEFG |
21:43.17 | dcordes | ok |
21:43.28 | cr2_ | 0,2,4,6,8,a,c,e,10,12 |
21:43.49 | dcordes | I see |
21:45.50 | cr2_ | the LEDs also have something to do with CPLD |
21:46.10 | dcordes | I thought so. There is no GPIO activity on those |
21:46.38 | dcordes | cr2_, how about that now? http://pastebin.ca/810380 |
21:47.06 | dcordes | cr2_, and how do you get all the info w/o machine? You looking this up in the linux-msm source? |
21:47.35 | dcordes | bbiab |
21:51.32 | cr2_ | dcordes: the 0x5d gpio (in3-25) should be SD detect |
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22:01.31 | cr2_ | 0x14 looks like a CPLD chain irq |
22:02.03 | cr2_ | should be in1-4 |
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22:07.41 | cr2_ | 0x1d0000 and 0x1d0004 are the lcd id related. |
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22:09.29 | cr2_ | yes, mddi_Rx(0x1d0004) & 5 is the panel ID. |
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22:16.41 | dcordes_ | cr2_, how did you find all this out? |
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22:20.58 | dcordes | cr2_, it would make me happy if you could confirm http://pastebin.ca/810380 |
22:22.59 | cr2_ | yes, looks good now. |
22:23.11 | dcordes | ok how do I make use of it? |
22:23.20 | dcordes | as in how do I scan for CPLD events |
22:24.07 | cr2_ | watch gpios |
22:24.24 | cr2_ | dcordes: can you check the SD detect gpio ? |
22:24.38 | dcordes | is already in kaiser_gpio |
22:24.42 | dcordes | ah no that's irq |
22:26.39 | dcordes | cr2_, 3-26 |
22:27.18 | dcordes | in |
22:27.20 | dcordes | in3: in3-26(282)=1 |
22:27.58 | cr2_ | 26 ? should be 25 ... |
22:28.17 | dcordes | haret says that |
22:28.44 | dcordes | 0 insert 1 eject |
22:28.48 | cr2_ | your lcd power gpios match my data. |
22:28.53 | cr2_ | ok. interesting. |
22:29.09 | dcordes | hitting the touchscreen shows nothing |
22:29.23 | dcordes | n'either does LED activity |
22:32.46 | dcordes | cr2_, shall I put SD state gpio into kaiser_gpio? |
22:34.33 | dcordes | arrrr playing chord for 4 seconds |
22:34.47 | dcordes | ~lart chord.wav |
22:34.47 | apt | says "boot to the head" and knocks chord.wav over |
22:35.24 | cr2_ | ah. sorry. it's my mistake. |
22:36.03 | dcordes | cr2_, does all my data match your msm researches? |
22:36.12 | cr2_ | yes. |
22:36.20 | cr2_ | what is "light sensor" ? |
22:36.23 | dcordes | :D |
22:36.44 | cr2_ | don't edit together with me :) |
22:36.47 | dcordes | kaiser class feature: Keyboard backlight only turns on in the dark |
22:38.04 | cr2_ | ok, so it's like on the universal. do you know the location of the sensor ? |
22:38.37 | dcordes | it is on the keyboard layer, top left |
22:38.45 | dcordes | like 1cm left of the Q |
22:38.57 | dcordes | real tiny |
22:39.38 | dcordes | cr2_, http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b151796.jpg bottom row second image from the right |
22:39.49 | dcordes | and right image |
22:40.02 | cr2_ | ok. |
22:40.08 | cr2_ | what about the keyboard ? |
22:40.29 | dcordes | GPIOS? |
22:40.34 | dcordes | each key spits a lot of output |
22:41.01 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Hermes has light sensor also. |
22:41.25 | dcordes | http://pastebin.ca/810428 |
22:42.21 | dcordes | cr2_, as for the IRQ scans, arrow keys are not visible here |
22:42.22 | cr2_ | dcordes: looks like a matrix keyboard. |
22:43.03 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ |
22:43.07 | dcordes | see last line |
22:44.32 | dcordes | what is a matrix keyboard? |
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22:48.52 | x_bruno | uau, I missed a lot since I was gone |
22:49.07 | dcordes | si |
22:49.16 | dcordes | have a look at kaiser gpio |
22:49.22 | x_bruno | dcordes: what was that paste bin? |
22:49.38 | x_bruno | what keys were you pressing to get that output? |
22:49.52 | dcordes | QWER |
22:50.55 | x_bruno | from lines 01 to 15 that was one key or severall? |
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22:51.36 | dcordes | x_bruno, make sure your haretconsole/regs_msm.py looks like this http://pastebin.ca/810380 |
22:51.53 | dcordes | x_bruno, one hunk=one key |
22:52.46 | x_bruno | thanks |
22:53.04 | dcordes | x_bruno, did you get the haretconsole from the email I sent you? |
22:53.28 | x_bruno | yes |
22:53.53 | dcordes | k |
22:53.54 | x_bruno | i just don't have the battery power, the testwm5 has been ongoing for the last 3 hours or so |
22:54.07 | dcordes | seems to be heavy |
22:54.18 | dcordes | didn Kevin2 say on his device it took like one? |
22:54.21 | cr2_ | dcordes: 4x8 matrix ? |
22:55.11 | cr2_ | dcordes: how many keys do you have ? |
22:55.15 | dcordes | 32 :) |
22:55.26 | dcordes | 30 normal and the two menu ones |
22:55.27 | cr2_ | ok, sounds good. |
22:55.42 | cr2_ | 1-20,21,22,23 is the row |
22:55.55 | dcordes | don't understand |
22:56.09 | cr2_ | 1-7,14,15,16,17,18,19,23 is the column |
22:56.29 | dcordes | ahhh those gpio values identify the keys? |
22:56.33 | cr2_ | 3-10 is the irq, or something like that. |
22:56.53 | cr2_ | yes, you get an irq, and check the row+column |
22:57.02 | dcordes | and irq is 28 |
22:57.10 | dcordes | does this sufice for kb driver? |
22:57.29 | cr2_ | not really, but makes life easier. |
22:57.33 | x_bruno | a variable has to be stored for function keys |
22:57.44 | x_bruno | there is caps and fn |
22:58.00 | dcordes | both are in the matrix |
22:58.05 | x_bruno | which have to be kept, all you need after is the other keys |
22:58.09 | cr2_ | i guess swetland will publish the keyboard driver :) it's not that secret i guess. |
22:58.12 | dcordes | I guess the key combinations are just a combination of the present matrix |
22:58.33 | dcordes | cr2_, why would he have one? |
22:58.44 | dcordes | don't say he's developing for kaiser? |
22:58.50 | cr2_ | i think it#s the same on 7200A |
22:59.03 | cr2_ | are there any android kernel updates ? |
22:59.12 | dcordes | yes many recent ones |
22:59.25 | Tipolosko | hi, a quick question.. what is the status about htc tytn linux port? is somehow usable? |
22:59.27 | dcordes | http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=summary |
23:03.18 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: no. |
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23:03.40 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: but we are working on it. |
23:04.38 | Tipolosko | cr2_: can i help ? i have a htc tytn :) |
23:05.32 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: if you want to do some S3C2442 manual reading, you can check the serial ports. |
23:05.55 | rakeem | Tippolosko: Got you all excited huh? ;-) |
23:06.17 | Tipolosko | rakeem: i'll fry my phone in no-time :D |
23:06.52 | rakeem | cr2: I found him on #aircrack-ng and told him I had Kismet on my phone... |
23:07.17 | x_bruno | dcordes, almost finished with data processing instructions |
23:07.33 | rakeem | Tippolosko: It's a pretty safe process actually, no hardcore ROM screwing... |
23:07.41 | Tipolosko | rakeem: i'm not doing for kismet or similar.. the wifi is not so good on that phone :P |
23:07.50 | cr2_ | dcordes: not that much changes. i'll wait for the SD driver. that will be big. |
23:08.24 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: the wifi on hermes is SDIO. we are not that far. |
23:08.25 | rakeem | Right... I'm sure you've got a million other ideas... |
23:09.38 | Tipolosko | rakeem: just imagine gcc on your phone, along with ncurses, a bash shell.. and some other little apps.. |
23:10.36 | rakeem | Done it. I was compiling bluetooth tools from source in the pub... Geektastic! |
23:11.08 | rakeem | Just got wireshark running... Wonder if the screen fits... |
23:11.19 | Tipolosko | rakeem: is a joke, i know! |
23:11.37 | rakeem | Nope. Seriously. |
23:11.49 | dcordes | I bet airodump on qvga sucks |
23:11.52 | Tipolosko | *_+ |
23:12.19 | rakeem | Yeah, BA is worse... |
23:12.43 | dcordes | cr2_, what about display.. Do you think we can get one driver soon? |
23:13.04 | cr2_ | rakeem: lol. BA has a working wifi :) |
23:13.14 | rakeem | Oh, I was thinking about the Uni... That's VGA, and it works ok if tiny font is used... |
23:13.22 | cr2_ | yes. |
23:13.22 | rakeem | YAY!!! |
23:14.16 | cr2_ | dcordes: yes, you need to inspect all these weird MDDI registers. |
23:14.28 | rakeem | Decided to build my own kernel, from the instructions on the wiki (easy-peasy)... SWEET! |
23:14.55 | dcordes | cr2_, mmutrace? |
23:15.10 | cr2_ | dcordes: no, it's too difficult. |
23:15.18 | dcordes | that's a downer! |
23:15.31 | cr2_ | rakeem: do you have a sdio card ? |
23:15.40 | cr2_ | rakeem: which kernel do you have on the uni ? |
23:16.44 | Tipolosko | haret link in this page aren't working.. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Linux |
23:17.18 | dcordes | http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071122.exe |
23:17.23 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: outdated as hell |
23:17.41 | Tipolosko | ^_^ |
23:17.44 | rakeem | SDIO Wifi? Nope, but I've seen them in the shops... My Uni was left at a restaurant, although I've another behind me in bits in various plastic bags which needs a new screen... |
23:18.01 | cr2_ | hehe. |
23:18.07 | cr2_ | i have sdio gps. |
23:18.19 | dcordes | rakeem, do you have a spare one to send me as a gift? |
23:18.23 | cr2_ | it should probably work with the 2.6.23-24 kernel |
23:19.00 | rakeem | I was running 2.6.21 |
23:19.12 | cr2_ | .21 does not support sdio. |
23:19.45 | Tipolosko | rakeem: recompile kernel on your phone... it sounds sweet!! :D |
23:19.48 | rakeem | dcordes: No but if you're good I'll give you an iPaq 3630.... |
23:19.49 | dcordes | cr2_, is there no way at all to inspect MDDI registers or did you mean it is too dificult for me? |
23:20.03 | dcordes | rakeem, I'm always good |
23:20.31 | cr2_ | rakeem: does 3630 have asic1 ? |
23:20.44 | rakeem | cr2: I've wondered about this though... How do you keep the OS running with another card in the slot? |
23:21.06 | cr2_ | rakeem: you flash the os. |
23:21.27 | cr2_ | it should work on ba, but i'll wait for pH5 to do it :) |
23:21.32 | cr2_ | lol. on my ba. |
23:21.34 | rakeem | COVER YOUR EARS Tippolosko! |
23:22.06 | cr2_ | hehe. NAND driver on hermes is not working as expected. |
23:22.55 | rakeem | cr2: Funny you should ask... I came across a 3630 board the other day and noticed an HTC IC... |
23:23.16 | Tipolosko | rakeem: wOW, an utility to skew up htc tytn phone.. let's try! :D |
23:23.29 | rakeem | Looked again. Yep. It says V1.0 quite clearly... |
23:23.36 | cr2_ | rakeem: can you check the asic number ? |
23:23.59 | cr2_ | i wish i could get a wallaby somewhere :) |
23:24.32 | cr2_ | the port was stuck because nobody could write the SD driver for it. |
23:25.36 | rakeem | cr2: 30H9008580 then F00500844 V1.0 |
23:25.59 | Tipolosko | cr2_: there is some linux kernel to try in hermes? just to see how lovely crashes (i suppose) |
23:26.55 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: you can boot it of the ramdisk. then you can login over usb. nothng will carsh. |
23:26.58 | rakeem | cr2: I could prolly pick up a Wallaby for you.... |
23:27.38 | cr2_ | rakeem: i have hima/ba/uni/sable/hermes/athena. |
23:27.46 | rakeem | We've got a wicked market street here where technological marvels go to die... |
23:27.54 | rakeem | ... or be reincarnated... |
23:28.00 | cr2_ | but keeping only athena and uni. |
23:28.21 | cr2_ | yeah, i doubt it costs a lot. |
23:28.23 | rakeem | cr2: You after the full set? |
23:28.28 | cr2_ | no. |
23:28.39 | cr2_ | these are mostly pxa phones. |
23:28.50 | cr2_ | well, hermes is the exception. |
23:29.01 | cr2_ | but it's not mine after all. |
23:29.20 | cr2_ | and athena is the last pxa phone |
23:29.30 | rakeem | Ah... Okay, if I see one for less than US$60 shall I grab it? |
23:29.34 | cr2_ | i don't have any omap850 and msm7200 phones. |
23:29.52 | cr2_ | rakeem: how can i transfer you the money ??? |
23:30.23 | cr2_ | us$60 how much euro is that ? 40 ? |
23:30.49 | Tipolosko | 42-43.. |
23:30.56 | rakeem | Dunno... How do these things usually work? I can set up paypal I suppose... |
23:31.37 | cr2_ | i don't have a credit card. |
23:31.46 | Tipolosko | paypal will eat 3,5% of your money.. |
23:31.50 | rakeem | I've also got a Whorenado which is omap based... I'd like to see more interest in the smartphones overall... |
23:32.06 | x_bruno | ok guys |
23:32.07 | rakeem | Do they? What country you in? |
23:32.09 | x_bruno | have fun |
23:32.20 | rakeem | Bb Bruno... |
23:32.59 | rakeem | ...maybe the bank can transfer... HSBC? |
23:33.07 | Tipolosko | rakeem: money transfer within italy is ~3,5% |
23:33.15 | cr2_ | artemis is the most interesting ompa850 phone, but it's as big as hermes ? |
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23:33.37 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: it's robbery. |
23:33.38 | dcordes | cr2_, prophet is also neat |
23:33.42 | Tipolosko | international bank transfer between italy and germany: 8€ (but may vary, i suppose!) |
23:33.50 | Tipolosko | cr2_: i know O_o |
23:34.02 | Tipolosko | you can use western union |
23:34.20 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: i think it does not cost anything. well, maybe if you transfer cash. |
23:34.33 | rakeem | They're the worst rapists of the lot... |
23:35.19 | Tipolosko | rakeem: just give a gift to cr2_! :P |
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23:36.13 | Tipolosko | hi _ecze |
23:37.11 | cr2_ | rakeem: hmm. but how high is the postage rate ? |
23:37.11 | rakeem | Hehe... Of course, if I see one cheap, I was thinking more about ongoing though... I'd like to help, if I can, with the Hong Kong / China connection.... If people need spares / used units etc... |
23:38.13 | dcordes | cr2_, what about mddi registers? How will we go on about this? |
23:38.21 | Tipolosko | rakeem: i need spares / used units... hermes-like, because mine will not get back from my stresstest |
23:38.31 | Tipolosko | ^_^ |
23:38.38 | rakeem | Postage from here is good and cheap. One thing the British left HK with was a decent postal system... |
23:39.19 | rakeem | Tippolosko: Serious? |
23:39.33 | Tipolosko | rakeem: no, not for now :) Thanks :) |
23:40.05 | Tipolosko | but i'll do some tests on my htc seriously.. |
23:40.16 | Tipolosko | so.. i'll report you back :) |
23:40.25 | cr2_ | dcordes: i'll look what the SPL is doing. does the android driver check for mddi regs ? |
23:40.56 | dcordes | cr2_, no idea, which driver? |
23:41.13 | Tipolosko | mmm going to sleep... |
23:41.29 | dcordes | Tipolosko, cya |
23:41.29 | Tipolosko | rakeem: cr2_: are you always there on #htc-linux ? |
23:41.34 | Tipolosko | ^_^ |
23:41.46 | Tipolosko | for dcordes too :) |
23:42.06 | cr2_ | Tipolosko: yes. |
23:42.19 | rakeem | cr2 is one of the main gurus round here... I've been on and off for a few months now... |
23:42.19 | cr2_ | dcordes: drivers/video/msm/something* |
23:42.56 | rakeem | Glad to have piqued your interest Tippolosko... Spread the word man... |
23:43.16 | rakeem | And shit. Yes. Wireshark works beautifully! |
23:43.22 | dcordes | cr2_, there's a lot in the video drivers dir |
23:43.34 | Tipolosko | rakeem: it's like a virus.. i'll destroy my phone, i'll tell to friends and thei'll destroy his phone! |
23:43.36 | Tipolosko | ^_^ |
23:43.43 | Tipolosko | thanks rakeem, cr2_, dcordes |
23:43.45 | dcordes | rakeem, check out ettercap-ng (added recipe to OE) |
23:44.04 | rakeem | Yeah, I've got a box of casualties going back a while... |
23:44.13 | Tipolosko | ettercap?!? Super-Awesome! (strange word.. does it exist?) |
23:44.34 | rakeem | Yeah, I was running it on the Uni... |
23:44.43 | Tipolosko | byebye |
23:44.45 | dcordes | haha serious pentest application eh? |
23:44.49 | Tipolosko | see you tomorror (i hope) |
23:45.05 | Tipolosko | tomorror? tomorrow! i need to sleep NOW |
23:45.09 | Tipolosko | bye :) |
23:45.17 | rakeem | Bye man... See you around! |
23:46.18 | rakeem | dcordes: If I told you you'd be dead in 24 hours. Your IP is now on The List. |
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23:47.29 | dcordes | I hope german state will not sue me for making ettercap-ng recipe |
23:48.10 | rakeem | Haven't you heard? The Kismac guys are getting the firing squad.. |
23:48.39 | dcordes | gosh http://kismac.de/ |
23:49.32 | rakeem | It's a real black mark on Germany's otherwise venerable geek culture... That country ruled my youth on the C64 and Amiga... |
23:52.21 | dcordes | cr2_, I greped the dir and only found MDDI/mddi in a binary file |
23:52.24 | rakeem | Forty lashes for Nmap too... |
23:52.36 | dcordes | yes.. so sick |
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23:59.43 | rakeem | Community service for Netstumbler... |