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01:46.51 | dcordes_ | cr2_: still up? |
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02:16.58 | Kevin2 | Hi |
02:21.08 | dcordes_ | hey Kevin2 |
02:27.17 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: http://pastebin.ca/808967 could you take a look at this? It's watch gpio output from keyboard |
02:30.12 | dcordes_ | I hit all keyboard keys there |
02:30.17 | dcordes_ | is it any useful? |
02:37.59 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: You need to get a newer version of haretconsole - try http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haretconsole-20071207.tar.gz |
02:38.29 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: ok thanks |
02:38.36 | dcordes_ | also I think I was watching the wrong gpios there |
02:38.55 | dcordes_ | cr2_: told me I had to replace 9 with b |
02:38.57 | Kevin2 | Also, you're going to need to put together a document that maps GPIOs to their functions. This means taking careful notes and then putting the notes together on a wiki page. |
02:39.13 | dcordes_ | yes the keyboard thing is a first start |
02:39.30 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: No cr2_ was wrong. Don't mess with the registers. Just run "watch gpios x" and record what the functions do. |
02:39.47 | dcordes_ | ah ok :) |
02:51.59 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: new haretconsole installed. Am I good to go with the last kaiser revision you gave me? |
02:52.13 | dcordes_ | #4 or so from 12-1 |
02:55.16 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Yes. |
03:05.07 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: I don't get spamming gpios with the console version you gave me |
03:05.19 | dcordes_ | is it supposed to be that way? |
03:11.52 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: ibits were still active because I did not restart haret. I was assuming a new console session would overrun the old "settings" |
03:13.26 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: No, ibit settings stick around until you restart haret. |
03:13.37 | Kevin2 | You should now see names instead of the "?". |
03:15.38 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: no ? in the watch gpios outputs |
03:15.56 | dcordes_ | ibit the spamming ones again now? |
03:17.05 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: I've been writing some haret docs. You might find http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation useful. |
03:22.42 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: my watch gpios x output does not show anything like 002.269 GPIOS GPGDAT: GPG3(195)=0 |
03:22.55 | dcordes_ | but rather like this 018.514 GPIOS 92b00814(401 402)=1fe3f09 |
03:25.15 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: http://pastebin.ca/809004 oney keyboard keystroke |
03:25.23 | dcordes_ | one |
03:26.00 | dcordes_ | could you give me an example on how the refering Kaiser_GPIO wiki entry would look like? |
03:28.19 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Hrmm. Can you add "import regs_msm" to the file haretconsole/memalias.py right after the line that says "import regs_omap"? |
03:28.32 | dcordes_ | second |
03:29.38 | Kevin2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HermesGPIO is an example wiki |
03:29.58 | dcordes_ | ok done the deed |
03:30.13 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: I already took a look on the hermes gpio page |
03:30.22 | dcordes_ | but I don't understand the parallels to my output |
03:30.24 | Kevin2 | Now, restart your console and rerun your "watch gpios" |
03:30.30 | dcordes_ | also restart haret? |
03:31.10 | Kevin2 | No, you don't need to restart haret. |
03:32.03 | dcordes_ | http://pastebin.ca/809007 |
03:33.11 | dcordes_ | I actually did nothing there :) |
03:33.22 | dcordes_ | http://pastebin.ca/809010 |
03:33.41 | dcordes_ | this is the same as http://pastebin.ca/809004 with the import kaiser line now |
03:35.18 | dcordes_ | what's all the in out stuffs? |
03:37.43 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Look at haretconsole/regs_msm.py |
03:38.15 | Kevin2 | It's just our guess of what the register names are. |
03:38.38 | Kevin2 | The google android source might have better register names. |
03:38.45 | dcordes_ | ah ok cr2_ told me he looked up register stuff in the msm tree. Was wondering what he meant |
03:48.12 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO |
03:52.44 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Yep - that is what you want to do. (Note, you don't need to report =0/=1 -- only 0/1 is possible, and the value should be obvious based on the description.) |
03:53.25 | Kevin2 | Also, there is no reason to show the number in parenthesis -- for example (278) -- this number is internal to haret and has no meaning outside of haret. |
03:53.49 | dcordes_ | lol what's left then? |
03:54.43 | Kevin2 | Map all GPIOs and IRQs. Find out what every key button press does. Find out what the touch screen does, etc. See the reference to the docs I posted above. |
03:56.45 | dcordes_ | ok will try my very best |
03:58.08 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: just look at the voice button blob |
03:58.34 | dcordes_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO |
03:58.56 | dcordes_ | I think it is because the microphone is accessed when I press it |
03:59.07 | dcordes_ | it calls a voice dial function on my rom |
03:59.20 | dcordes_ | same effect with photo button |
03:59.47 | dcordes_ | is there a way to have the phone in a mode where it does nothing on input but let haret give me the gpio activity? |
04:04.02 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Putting a trace of what happens during each event is not going to help anyone. You need to figure out what each gpio does and then post a table of "gpio : description". |
04:04.39 | Kevin2 | As for the phone - you can try putting the device into "flight mode" so the phone doesn't do anything. You can also try to figure out what sound does, document those gpios, and then ignore them. |
04:04.45 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: that's why I was asking how to disable functions which are called when I press such button so I have the raw button press |
04:06.19 | dcordes_ | flight mode is not a good thing since my connection is wifi |
04:11.51 | dcordes_ | ah key lock is a place to start :D |
04:23.46 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: hm in keylock mode i also get so much output on button press |
04:23.53 | dcordes_ | or in some cases nothing at all |
04:29.01 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: How can I make a new wiki page? |
04:29.58 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: You can just modify the URL so that it goes to the page that you want to create. |
04:33.57 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: when I move around the touchscreen there is IRQ19 activity. After I stop moving it stopps at IRQ16 |
04:34.05 | dcordes_ | what am I supposed to put in the map now? |
04:35.21 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: You're going to have to figure it out. I don't have the device, so I can't tell you what it should say. |
04:35.32 | dcordes_ | I mean what's the normal behaviour with other htcs? |
04:35.43 | dcordes_ | do you also get two irq values while using the touchscreen? |
04:36.09 | Kevin2 | It varies. On Apache I get an irq on touch only (nothing on release). |
04:36.40 | Kevin2 | On Hermes I get irqs repeatedly while touching the screen. Irqs stop when I lift the pen. |
04:36.45 | dcordes_ | so I can assume 16 is the release and 19 is the touch? |
04:36.57 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: I get the hermes behaviour here |
04:36.58 | Kevin2 | That would be odd, but not impossible. |
04:37.16 | dcordes_ | It is printing wild while moving around with the pen |
04:37.32 | dcordes_ | varying between 16 and 19 w/o releases between |
04:37.54 | dcordes_ | I just hold down and the output is like 16 16 16 16 19 19 16 19 16 just random |
04:38.12 | Kevin2 | Okay |
04:38.39 | dcordes_ | ah wait |
04:38.48 | Kevin2 | The touchscreen sensing may be separate from the main msm chip. So, you might be seeing a pendown irq, followed by a whole series of external chip "have more data" irqs. |
04:39.04 | dcordes_ | when I try to tap it calmly, as in I don't move at all, just tap, it is only printing 16 |
04:39.13 | Kevin2 | You might also be seeing a "screen redraw" irq. |
04:40.14 | dcordes_ | I will put it as 16= tap 19=move for now |
04:41.45 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: oops there is also 16=19=1 activity when I close/open the slide |
04:42.02 | dcordes_ | so propably all I see when I use TS is display related (redraw) ? |
04:42.22 | Kevin2 | possibly |
04:44.17 | dcordes_ | I also see 16 19 |
04:44.25 | dcordes_ | when a cursor is blinking or so |
04:45.12 | Kevin2 | Okay - that is a good indication it is purely screen related. |
04:45.33 | dcordes_ | How can I name this? |
04:45.41 | dcordes_ | 28=keyboard related |
04:49.00 | dcordes_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ |
04:53.44 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: how do I cancel a trace (in case I set a huge time value)= |
04:53.47 | dcordes_ | ? |
04:59.31 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Ughh. You can't. :-( |
05:02.30 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: look is not that great? http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ |
05:02.38 | dcordes_ | how do I make it a neat table? |
05:07.48 | Kevin2 | edit the htc hermes table and look at the page source. |
05:08.22 | dcordes_ | ok |
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05:10.55 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: does not work for me can you take a look? |
05:13.01 | rakeem_ | Hey dcordes, Kevin... |
05:13.12 | dcordes_ | hi rakeem |
05:13.31 | dcordes_ | what's up in taiwan? :) |
05:14.48 | rakeem_ | Any idea what I might try to stop my BA thinking that every keypress is stuck? Everything seems fine, but local use is impossible as a result... |
05:16.10 | rakeem_ | ...or do you know how I can download sources for 2.6.16 ? |
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05:21.01 | rakeem_ | I'm in Hong Kong actually, a minor difference 'cos we're all gonna be China sooner or later.... |
05:22.48 | dcordes | rakeem_: ah sorry. Where in hk are you? kowloon? |
05:23.22 | rakeem_ | Hong Kong side, Quarry Bay... You been here before? |
05:23.51 | dcordes | no only detailed the area in school once |
05:27.33 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Select/unselect "old style formatting". Or, read up on the formatting by hitting the TextFormattingRules link |
05:30.31 | dcordes | Kevin2: I get a table now with old markup, but the columns don't fit |
05:30.39 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ look |
05:40.22 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ |
05:40.41 | dcordes | sorry this wasn't supposed to go here |
07:44.34 | dcordes | Kevin2: still around? |
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09:33.21 | dcordes | cr2_: you said you told me the GPIO for wifi and something else. Can you put them http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO here? |
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12:48.42 | jeanseb | hello , where are last blueangel kernel and images ? |
12:49.03 | BabelO | hello jeanseb |
12:49.31 | BabelO | jeanseb: kernel is at hh.org and images at http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa |
12:49.41 | BabelO | i ve started some new build |
12:49.54 | jeanseb | thanks |
12:50.56 | jeanseb | on my MPV M2000 the one i've found was send panic when hit the arrow betwenred and green phone keys |
12:52.58 | BabelO | jeanseb: you can try OPIE II image and gpe too, should works, gpe is quite older now |
12:53.18 | jeanseb | gpe is gnome based right ? |
12:53.54 | BabelO | there is both, but gpephone is not stable enough, i build it before summer |
12:55.29 | jeanseb | ok OPIE is qt based . |
12:55.39 | BabelO | yes |
12:56.11 | BabelO | next step is to build latest openmoko :) |
12:56.11 | jeanseb | so i'd rather use GPE. I don't use GPRS but WIFI phone |
12:56.40 | jeanseb | my next step is to make linux run on the phone |
12:56.41 | jeanseb | lol |
12:56.48 | jeanseb | consol is OK |
12:57.08 | jeanseb | old build was having white screen and panic |
12:57.34 | BabelO | jeanseb: ok, GPRS works with a ppp script and wifi works perfect with pcmcia control ;), but i advice you tobuild your own image |
12:57.39 | jeanseb | will try new one and may be help for building GPIE Image u pto date after |
12:57.54 | BabelO | jeanseb: from where is your spv m2000 france ? |
12:58.09 | jeanseb | qtek 9090 package by orange provider |
12:58.21 | BabelO | ok lie me :) |
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12:58.26 | jeanseb | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel |
12:58.27 | BabelO | s/lie/like/ |
12:58.43 | BabelO | jeanseb: yes it is web page i change ;) |
12:58.50 | jeanseb | BabelO, pourquoi on cause anglais ? |
12:59.01 | jeanseb | en plus t chez free |
12:59.05 | jeanseb | comme moi |
12:59.09 | BabelO | jeanseb: parce que ici c'est anglais only |
12:59.10 | BabelO | lol |
12:59.14 | BabelO | en pv |
12:59.31 | jeanseb | or englisj as u want |
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13:17.13 | resin | Hello, not a linux problem though... But have some trouble with my QTEK pocket pc(rom), could anyone help? |
13:17.40 | resin | <PROTECTED> |
13:17.40 | resin | <resin> I had a some prob before when i had tried to upgrade Phorpeth IVVV, but i used HELMI rom to repair and overcome the problem... |
13:18.06 | resin | I had a some prob before when i had tried to upgrade Phorpeth IVVV, but i used HELMI rom to repair and overcome the problem... |
13:18.40 | resin | but this time i am not able to recover it... can anyone try to help? |
13:18.43 | resin | thanks. |
13:38.26 | BabelO | resin: afaik it is only a linux channel :( |
13:45.35 | BabelO | pH5: around ? |
13:54.38 | resin | yeah, babel0, i know but are there any other channels for support? |
13:54.39 | resin | thanks.. |
13:55.41 | BabelO | resin: i think only xda forum |
13:56.53 | BabelO | resin: look here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ or http://forum.xda-developers.com/ |
13:56.53 | BabelO | no other idea |
14:01.07 | resin | :) already checked it, nvm, thanks. |
14:08.04 | pH5 | BabelO: now |
14:08.11 | BabelO | yes :) |
14:08.29 | BabelO | pH5: i ll try to build new OE image for BA this afternoon |
14:08.30 | Kevin2 | Hi |
14:08.46 | BabelO | where is kdrvice-imageon or kdrive-w32200 ? |
14:08.51 | BabelO | hi Kevin2 |
14:09.02 | pH5 | hi Kevin2 |
14:09.16 | pH5 | BabelO: great. kdrive imageon is part of xserver-kdrive. |
14:09.52 | pH5 | but 1.4 doesn't have imageon yet, I think. only w100. |
14:09.56 | pH5 | bbl |
14:09.56 | BabelO | pH5: ok because i don't found the bb file |
14:10.03 | BabelO | ok |
14:10.03 | Kevin2 | BabelO - are you merging the hh.org tree with mainline? If so, please join the mailing list at http://projects.linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-linux-discuss |
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14:10.38 | BabelO | Kevin2: i have started some part only :) adding BA to it, and adding driver one by one |
14:12.03 | BabelO | Kevin2: i ve started qgit build :) |
14:13.48 | BabelO | Kevin2: subscription done |
14:15.30 | Kevin2 | I've written some haret docs at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
14:26.13 | BabelO | bokkmarked, i always forgot some command :) |
14:34.41 | resin | Is there anyways i could erase the whole content of my QTEK pu10 and make it brand new??? Even removing the covers would do!!!! |
14:35.06 | resin | like a permanant reset without partitions. |
14:42.59 | BabelO | Kevin2: you need a nice welcome page ;) |
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14:56.21 | Kevin2 | BabelO: ? |
14:57.01 | BabelO | Kevin2: yes, project page just contain index.php |
14:59.29 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Are you volunteering to make one? :-) |
15:00.15 | BabelO | Kevin2: lol i m not a good designer, i use joomla actually to do this http://linuxbox2.free.fr/qtapp |
15:00.58 | Kevin2 | I was thinking of enabling the wiki and pointing the main page to the wiki. |
15:01.41 | BabelO | yes, good idea |
15:05.02 | BabelO | Kevin2: where is your how to make a exe boot for oe images ? |
15:15.21 | Kevin2 | BabelO: The old link is at http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/initramfs-installer/README -- I can't seem to view files from svn at linuxtogo. The new site is http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/distrotestdrive/ |
15:16.03 | BabelO | Kevin2: thx |
15:16.17 | BabelO | Kevin2: i use that for git work http://digilander.libero.it/mcostalba/ |
15:17.35 | Kevin2 | Hrmm - this link seems to work: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/README?annotate=2&root=distrotestdrive |
15:17.50 | BabelO | ok |
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15:30.37 | cr2_ | hi |
15:31.30 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i've read the haret doc wiki page. it's great, but i guess we need more examples |
15:31.34 | BabelO | hello |
15:32.07 | cr2_ | dcordes: you should convert the haret gpio numbers into msm gpio numbers. |
15:32.09 | cr2_ | hi BabelO |
15:32.44 | cr2_ | Kevin2: is it possible to do this conversion in a "portable" way ? |
15:34.29 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Yes - just modify haretconsole/regs_msm.py -- last time this file was modified, we didn't know the "real" gpio names. |
15:36.27 | cr2_ | Kevin2: ok, i'll have a look. there are 105 gpios on msm7x00 in 5 "banks", so it's nice to have the wince sequential number instead of the bit position. |
15:37.12 | cr2_ | i'll go to buy some food now, but then will come back and try to test the ATI SD driver :) |
15:37.14 | Kevin2 | cr2_: 21 gpios per bank? |
15:37.15 | cr2_ | bbl |
15:37.23 | cr2_ | Kevin2: no, it's more tricky. |
15:37.42 | Kevin2 | Soubs like s3c |
15:37.56 | Kevin2 | s/Soubs/Sounds/ |
15:38.52 | cr2_ | [Sa Sep 15 2007] [16:03:38] <cr2_> Output_Level0 (0......15) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x |
15:38.53 | cr2_ | [Sa Sep 15 2007] [16:03:38] <cr2_> Output_Level1 (16....42) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x |
15:38.53 | cr2_ | [Sa Sep 15 2007] [16:03:38] <cr2_> Output_Level2 (43....67) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x |
15:38.53 | cr2_ | [Sa Sep 15 2007] [16:03:38] <cr2_> Output_Level3 (68....94) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x |
15:38.53 | cr2_ | [Sa Sep 15 2007] [16:03:38] <cr2_> Output_Level4 (95..105) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x |
15:39.08 | cr2_ | these are the gpio numbers. |
15:39.42 | cr2_ | 42-16+1=27 |
15:40.02 | cr2_ | 67-43+1=25 |
15:40.18 | cr2_ | 94-68+1=27 |
15:40.28 | cr2_ | 105-95+1=11 |
15:40.36 | cr2_ | 15-0+1=16 |
15:41.20 | cr2_ | not a big surprise, if samsung produces these cpus. |
15:41.45 | cr2_ | bbl |
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17:59.35 | Pryan | oh no |
18:00.33 | Pryan | without keyboard the proyect is bad, because i buy athena for his keyboard |
18:00.35 | cr2_ | Kevin2: the s3c24xx spi ? i think pH5 has written some pxa2xx-spi code for the tsc2046 touchscreen driver |
18:01.53 | cr2_ | Pryan: it's possible to write a quick and dirty driver, but it will not move you forward a lot. |
18:03.04 | cr2_ | the spi -connected devices are already a horrible mess in the kernel, because everybody is using his own NIH method to access it. |
18:03.43 | Pryan | ahm |
18:03.45 | Pryan | uf |
18:04.41 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Wouldn't it be better to map msm gpios via android source then via wince logs? |
18:05.47 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i think wince is better, because android (1) hides some registers, (2) it's easier to interpret the wince code disasm. |
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18:06.23 | cr2_ | i'll search for the 6 "alt" gpio functions in the logs. |
18:06.32 | cr2_ | they are for the SD/wfif |
18:06.35 | Kevin2 | cr2_: BTW, have you seen the hh.org ported git tree ( http://git.linuxtogo.org ). I also started a mailing list at: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-linux-discuss |
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18:07.30 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i'll subscribe. but i'm surprised that the changes are so huge. there is a 2.6.23 htc-universal patch for 2.6.23 |
18:07.34 | Kevin2 | It's not clear from the output you posted where the 16 bits in Output_Level0 are - are they the lower 16 bits, every other bit, is each gpio 2 bits, etc. |
18:07.59 | cr2_ | i think the lower, like it's on the S3C24xx |
18:08.46 | cr2_ | the 2.6.23 universal patch has asic3 driver, acx100 driver, asic3-leds and pda_power (afair) |
18:09.34 | dcordes | cr2_: yo |
18:09.43 | dcordes | what about that conversion thing you asked me to do? |
18:09.54 | Kevin2 | Well, s3c uses gpioA/B/C/D names - not gpio1-105 names. |
18:09.59 | cr2_ | dcordes: we are trying to sort it out right now. |
18:10.03 | dcordes | ah ok |
18:10.36 | dcordes | cr2_: did you notice duplicates in my irq listing? I was wondering whether this is normal or not |
18:11.13 | cr2_ | Kevin2: ok, let's check it directly. how do you calculate the haret gpio number on msm ? |
18:11.54 | cr2_ | dcordes: we don't know anything about irq on msm, so these are just some guesses. the msm7x00 gpios are known much better. |
18:12.15 | cr2_ | i'm grepping for the msm SD gpios. |
18:13.34 | Pryan | i have found an asic3 driver for kernel |
18:13.41 | Pryan | it's usefull ? |
18:14.09 | cr2_ | Pryan: athena is not using asic3 |
18:14.36 | Pryan | ok |
18:14.48 | Kevin2 | cr2_: The number in parenthesis is the haret id - it's just (32 * pos) + bitpos -- I don't think we want to mess with that - instead just change the names as they are listed in haretconsole/regs_msm.py |
18:15.09 | Pryan | what do you need and i will search it in google ? |
18:23.47 | cr2_ | Kevin2: ok. |
18:24.07 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i just need a way to compare these 2 numbers. |
18:28.49 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Which two numbers? |
18:29.17 | cr2_ | the 0-105 number, and what you see in the haret output. |
18:34.48 | dcordes | cr2_: do you need output? |
18:37.45 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Change regs_msm.py to something like: 0xa9200800: ("out0", [(i, "go%d" % i) for i in range(16)]) |
18:37.45 | Kevin2 | 0xa9200804: ("out2", [(i-16, "go%d" % i) for i in range(16,43)]) |
18:37.45 | Kevin2 | etc. |
18:38.28 | Kevin2 | bbl |
18:42.24 | paulproteus | BabelO, Ce n'est pas grave si vous parlez francais (-: |
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18:54.34 | cr2_ | paulproteus: the problem is that others will want to write/read in german/russian/spanish/etc. do you know all these languages ? |
18:54.42 | paulproteus | cr2_, I'm mostly joking. (-: |
18:56.35 | Stamrogh | it's the "mostly" that is the scary part |
19:03.37 | cr2_ | Kevin2: are you the "Mobile-linux-discuss" moderator ? :) |
19:04.09 | BabelO | cr2_: do you get git repo ? |
19:04.28 | cr2_ | BabelO: the new one ? |
19:04.54 | BabelO | ~x en fr paulproteus : yes and we can use babelfish translator :) |
19:05.18 | BabelO | cr2_: yes, i ve cloned it on my harddrive two days ago and started some merge |
19:05.41 | paulproteus | Hah hah, BabelO. (-: |
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19:24.44 | cr2_ | ~x en de paulproteus : yes and we can use babelfish translator :) |
19:24.52 | cr2_ | lol |
19:25.45 | cr2_ | i still can't believe that the machine translation is so bad ;-) |
19:26.10 | cr2_ | ~x en es paulproteus : yes and we can use babelfish translator :) |
19:26.29 | cr2_ | ~x en ru paulproteus : yes and we can use babelfish translator :) |
19:26.31 | paulproteus | cr2_, There's no competition. |
19:26.39 | paulproteus | We've been using Babelfish since like 1995. |
19:26.50 | cr2_ | that one is even more funny. |
19:26.51 | paulproteus | babelfish.altavista.digital.com! |
19:27.22 | ImCoKeMaN | google translate is good sometimes too |
19:27.45 | cr2_ | paulproteus: still the translation quality didn't change since that time. |
19:32.29 | cr2_ | btw, the japanese -> english translation of ati functions was not bad. |
19:33.03 | cr2_ | http://www.sigmarion.net/go/bbs/board.php?bo_table=pds_dev&wr_id=10&page= |
19:49.00 | paulproteus | Well that's good to know, at least. (-: |
19:54.32 | dcordes | cr2_: you managed to get the register conversion in haretconsole done? |
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20:28.03 | dcordes | pH5: you around? |
20:40.03 | dcordes | I wonder if it would be easy to make a small driver for the vibration alert |
20:45.41 | pH5 | dcordes: hi |
20:49.10 | dcordes | hey |
20:50.49 | dcordes | pH5: did you see my gpio / irq research? |
20:51.30 | cr2_ | dcordes: i've not found the SD gpios in the log. |
20:51.56 | pH5 | dcordes: no. is it in the wiki? |
20:52.12 | dcordes | pH5: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ / GPIO |
20:53.18 | cr2_ | dcordes: the IRQ stuff is a complete mystery :) |
20:53.19 | dcordes | cr2_: I will copy haret to internal rom and try getting sd gpios |
20:53.44 | dcordes | cr2_: what do you mean by mystery? |
20:53.44 | pH5 | dcordes: ah, very good. are those IRQ or GPIO numbers? |
20:54.14 | dcordes | in irq it is irq numbers and in gpio gpio number I hope :D |
20:54.52 | pH5 | ok, good :) |
20:55.01 | cr2_ | dcordes: the gpio numbers should be decoded back to the register/bit pair. |
20:55.24 | dcordes | cr2_: the conversion thing you referred to earlier? |
20:55.43 | cr2_ | 194 - Jog wheel Rotate Up |
20:55.46 | cr2_ | yes. |
20:56.01 | cr2_ | 194%32 and 194/32 ? |
20:56.50 | dcordes | cr2_: I was uncertain there which number is assigned to what exact action |
20:56.57 | cr2_ | awk '{print int($1/32),int($1%32)}' |
20:56.59 | cr2_ | 194 |
20:57.01 | cr2_ | 6 2 |
20:57.07 | dcordes | o_O |
20:57.49 | cr2_ | so it's the third gpio in "bank" 5 |
20:58.18 | cr2_ | the zero bank has 16 gpios [0..15] |
20:58.19 | dcordes | shall I put this on the wiki? |
20:58.30 | cr2_ | i'll reformat the table. |
20:58.34 | dcordes | cool thanks |
20:58.43 | dcordes | it's not even a table yet ^^ |
20:59.10 | cr2_ | the first bank has 17 gpios [16..42] |
20:59.21 | cr2_ | and so on. look in today's logs. |
20:59.35 | dcordes | I've seen it all |
20:59.37 | dcordes | lots of math to me |
21:00.18 | dcordes | cr2_: did you guys update haretconsole yet with the new info? |
21:00.27 | dcordes | so I get the right values directly?P |
21:01.39 | dcordes | since when is htc-linux.org linked to the linuxtogo htc images site? |
21:02.15 | cr2_ | it's linked on a wish of goxboxlive. |
21:02.43 | cr2_ | actually it's true for magician and universal. to some extent for BA |
21:03.39 | cr2_ | when i'll make the ATI SD run, i'll upload something for athena there. probably for the sable too. and qtopia4 for hermes. |
21:03.53 | dcordes | cool. Did not ellisway register this domain while we had some talks about htc-linux.org as a central place of information and discussion for htc-linux development? |
21:04.43 | cr2_ | dcordes: it's a community effort. if you don't do anything about it, nothing moves forward :) |
21:05.12 | dcordes | my mistake was to stop doing anything after I noticed mediawiki is complicated |
21:12.03 | dcordes | I read in the new haret documentation one needs all IRQs. To be honest I have no idea how to go on about them |
21:13.28 | cr2_ | me too. the only reliable source of information is the SPL and nk.exe |
21:17.55 | dcordes | cr2_: do you have the spl there? I just managed to extract it. |
21:19.15 | cr2_ | you can dump it from SRAM |
21:19.56 | dcordes | I have it on my desktop. |
21:20.26 | dcordes | in several *.nb files and bootslpash in windows bitmap ^^ |
21:29.33 | cr2_ | dcordes: i see only 3 gpios in your list. and 2 of them have different functions, which may be just the matrix keyboard. |
21:30.40 | dcordes | cr2_: so those buttons are probably connected to CPLD? |
21:33.24 | cr2_ | no. |
21:33.36 | cr2_ | the CPLD is a different story. |
21:33.47 | cr2_ | here is my first version: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO |
21:35.06 | cr2_ | so check other gpios, and fill the "description" field. |
21:35.09 | dcordes | cr2_: ok that looks pretty different now |
21:35.36 | dcordes | cr2_: I'm busy tracing IRQ right now and noticed irq 6 has many different functions |
21:35.39 | cr2_ | bank is in'N' |
21:35.41 | dcordes | is that normal behaviour? |
21:35.45 | cr2_ | yes. |
21:36.01 | cr2_ | you'd have inN-M |
21:36.11 | cr2_ | where N is the bank, and M is the bit. |
21:37.05 | dcordes | I mean IRQ not GPIO |
21:37.16 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ like 6 here. it has so many functions |
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21:45.05 | cr2_ | dcordes: updated version http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO |
21:47.14 | cr2_ | found the gpios :) |
21:47.32 | cr2_ | [Do Nov 22 2007] [01:06:17] <cr2> 0x33 - 0x38 gpios are sd related. |
21:47.32 | cr2_ | [Do Nov 22 2007] [01:06:46] <cr2> 0x3e - 0x43 |
21:48.02 | dcordes | great |
21:48.19 | dcordes | I will try to find the ones that belong to the button below the jog wheel |
21:48.35 | cr2_ | 6 pins. |
21:49.19 | cr2_ | both gpios fit into bank2. good. |
21:51.17 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO |
21:52.04 | cr2_ | dcordes: what is "modem" ? |
21:52.29 | cr2_ | don't forget about the CPLD gpios too. |
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21:54.54 | dcordes_ | cr2_, sorry my connection died |
21:55.05 | dcordes_ | got your messages in the log |
21:55.47 | dcordes_ | cr2_, you mean modem related 1 2 in kaiser irq? |
21:57.59 | dcordes_ | 1 and 2 are active when I activate the phone function in connection manager |
21:58.20 | cr2_ | ok. |
22:00.40 | dcordes_ | I just retried that it's a sure thing |
22:00.59 | dcordes_ | when I enabled the phone function 1 and 2 start flowing, when I stop the activity stops |
22:01.42 | dcordes_ | 6 seems to indicate connection of external buses |
22:02.00 | dcordes_ | cr2_, do you have an idea what I can try? Am a bit clueless right now |
22:02.10 | dcordes_ | I get no irq on touchscreen |
22:06.10 | cr2_ | ts irq may be on the cpld. |
22:06.58 | cr2_ | touchscreen is controller over I2C. check TSC2003 driver in the kernel source. |
22:07.42 | dcordes_ | cr2_, how can I investigate the irqs on cpld again? |
22:10.08 | dcordes_ | cr2_, I just tried to checkout wifi GPIO |
22:10.29 | dcordes_ | unfortunately I have no usbnet to my host so I tried putty but there I have no console script |
22:13.39 | cr2_ | putty is ssh ? |
22:14.00 | cr2_ | try telnet, and use the right address. |
22:14.17 | dcordes_ | that's no problem- I had the connection |
22:14.29 | dcordes_ | pocketputty supports telnet |
22:15.10 | dcordes_ | with my normal haret-wifi-desktop connection I told haret to listen on a certain port and connected via telnet to localhost port with pocketputty |
22:19.33 | dcordes_ | cr2_, building synce |
22:39.11 | dcordes_ | cr2_, can you help me with synce? |
22:40.24 | Zoolooc | hello therer |
22:41.14 | Zoolooc | dcordes: I managed to connect my kaiser via usb with synce, but only with the ipaq kenrel module, unfortunately not the rndis driver |
22:41.46 | dcordes_ | Zoolooc, well I don't care. All I need is some usb networking |
22:41.58 | Zoolooc | dcordes: also, I managed to delete all my contacts when trying to run some python script I was'nt supposed to even try |
22:42.13 | dcordes_ | ooops |
22:42.17 | dcordes_ | did you backup? |
22:42.21 | Zoolooc | guess you want it for the haret telnet session |
22:42.37 | Zoolooc | yes, I've synced them back at the office |
22:43.42 | dcordes_ | Zoolooc, yes right. I need to find out irq/gpio of wifi so I need some connection other then wifi to console host |
22:44.00 | Zoolooc | and the synce folks found out it might happen with WM6 every time partnerships are deleted (I had to delete to create a new one with synce, as WM6 only supports 2 partnerships |
22:45.59 | Zoolooc | dcordes: alright, you might be luckier with rndis-host than my, you could try it out. you can still use ipaq if it does not work. so these 2 are kernel modules |
22:46.32 | dcordes_ | I installed synce and I'm now at the connect step |
22:46.36 | Zoolooc | for rndis-host, rather use the SVN version of rndis-lite from the synce project, than patching your kernel |
22:46.54 | dcordes_ | no that's what I don't want, patching the kernel. |
22:46.58 | Zoolooc | you installed it from binaries? |
22:47.07 | dcordes_ | no compiled as descriped here |
22:47.15 | dcordes_ | http://www.synce.org/index.php/Building_SynCE_with_Windows_Mobile_2005_support_from_Subversion |
22:47.43 | Zoolooc | ok, for ipaq you might have to build the respective kernel module (but at least it's standard included there) |
22:48.14 | dcordes_ | I will do the ipaq thing. Don't want no experiments but results. |
22:48.35 | Zoolooc | ok, then remember you also must switch your kaiser into serial mode |
22:48.42 | dcordes_ | wait first things first |
22:49.08 | dcordes_ | what am I supposed now after building and instlaling synce if I would like to do it the ipaq driver way? |
22:49.31 | Zoolooc | you need the ipaq kernel module |
22:49.59 | Zoolooc | if your system has udev support, just when connecting usb, you should already see something in dmesg |
22:50.12 | Zoolooc | but only if you swithed WM6 into serial mode |
22:50.12 | dcordes_ | ok modulel oaded |
22:50.22 | Zoolooc | which was what I wanted to tell you about |
22:50.46 | dcordes_ | ok how to switch kaiser into serial mode? |
22:51.13 | Zoolooc | in the Settings, under "Verbindungen"/ USB to PC just uncheck "Erweiterte Netzwerkfunktiionen aktivieren" |
22:51.59 | Zoolooc | which is supposed to be checked if you'd want to connect it via USB in nework mode with rndis-host |
22:53.37 | dcordes_ | I want usbnet |
22:53.42 | dcordes_ | for the telnet |
22:54.02 | Zoolooc | you get it via ppp in serial mode with the ipaq |
22:54.14 | dcordes_ | good |
22:54.20 | dcordes_ | I will attempt to connect now |
22:54.40 | Zoolooc | I was referring to network mode as opposed to serial mode actually ppp |
22:55.07 | Zoolooc | if you have udev you can automate the connection |
22:55.57 | dcordes_ | remember I only have synce and ipaq driver |
22:56.04 | Zoolooc | I also built FUR which can mount the whole PDA filesystem under linux, R/W |
22:56.05 | dcordes_ | that's everything required? |
22:56.19 | dcordes_ | sounds neat |
22:56.32 | Zoolooc | for the network connection to haret, yes |
22:57.08 | dcordes_ | ok |
22:57.10 | dcordes_ | connected... |
22:57.18 | Zoolooc | does a new ttyUSB device show up when connecting? |
22:57.31 | dcordes_ | [115897.074053] usb 7-4.1: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0 |
22:57.41 | Zoolooc | ok |
22:58.19 | Zoolooc | now my script triggered by udev runs "synce-serial-config /dev/ttyUSB1 192.168.178.55:192.168.178.57 fritz.box" |
22:59.09 | dcordes_ | my desktop where kaiser is hooked up is a normal dhclient |
22:59.18 | Zoolooc | which are the local and remote IPs given to the ppp link, and the DNS server, everything is optional, but the remote IP is what you need to run telnet on, when attempting to connect to haret |
22:59.51 | Zoolooc | yes, I think the dns thing would not work |
23:00.33 | Zoolooc | after running that just run "synce-serial-start" |
23:00.51 | Zoolooc | when you want to disconnect you should run "synce-serial-abort", that's all |
23:01.15 | Zoolooc | the first too commands can be called in a script by an udev rule |
23:01.58 | Zoolooc | unfortunately my kaiser is configured to go into standby very sooon, which interrupts the connection, too. but anyway, when you work on it, you can keep it awake |
23:03.07 | dcordes_ | my router running dhcpd is 192.168.0.1 and my desktop 192.168.0.3 |
23:03.14 | dcordes_ | how would the command look like in my case? |
23:03.43 | Zoolooc | 2 completely new IPs |
23:04.34 | Zoolooc | because you will see when running "ifconfig" after connecting, that a new ppp0 network interface defined by those new IPs will appear on your desktop machine |
23:05.22 | Zoolooc | first one is the local, then the remote to which you will connect with telnet |
23:06.19 | Zoolooc | try "synce-serial-config /dev/ttyUSB0 192.168.0.4:192.168.0.5" |
23:06.56 | Zoolooc | and after running synce-serial -start you should be able to telnet to 192.168.0.5 when haret is waiting on the other side |
23:07.01 | dcordes_ | hmmm I have no synce-serial-config lol |
23:07.57 | Zoolooc | wait a minute, I just "asked" my gentoo which package has that :-) |
23:08.11 | Zoolooc | hmm, there's a package synce-serial |
23:08.38 | Zoolooc | dcordes: I got that from SVN few weeks ago |
23:12.56 | dcordes_ | oops |
23:14.19 | Zoolooc | dcordes_: so how are you getting along? |
23:15.59 | dcordes_ | http://pastebin.ca/809508 |
23:16.21 | Zoolooc | dcordes_ after setting up the connection, you might want to automate it, I can give you my udev rule and this little 2-lines script, you might also want to get FUR |
23:16.44 | Zoolooc | ouch, I forgot about that |
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23:17.18 | Zoolooc | dcordes_: it's already running all the time as a service for me |
23:17.59 | dcordes_ | seen the pastebin? |
23:18.07 | Zoolooc | dcordes_: do you have the odccm binary? The best would be if it also installed a service script for your distribution |
23:18.20 | dcordes_ | odccm? |
23:18.49 | Zoolooc | dcordes_: yes, that's one of the programs which provide this dccm service needed by synce |
23:19.27 | dcordes_ | can't find it |
23:19.49 | Zoolooc | dcordes_: then it's yet another synce package you need to get |
23:20.15 | Zoolooc | but then it should be sufficient |
23:21.13 | dcordes_ | can you gentoo search it again? |
23:21.45 | Zoolooc | it's called that way here |
23:21.55 | dcordes_ | odccm? |
23:21.56 | Zoolooc | synce-odccm |
23:22.17 | Zoolooc | the synce guys also have vdccm, but that's said to be deprecated |
23:22.31 | dcordes_ | no synce-odccm here |
23:22.35 | dcordes_ | ubuntu |
23:22.57 | Zoolooc | you got your whole synce stuff from the unbuntu repositories? |
23:23.08 | dcordes_ | but synce-dccm |
23:23.18 | dcordes_ | will be the one |
23:23.30 | Zoolooc | should be, yeah |
23:23.37 | dcordes_ | synce-serial-start cannot find the dccm process. |
23:23.37 | dcordes_ | Without dccm your PPP connection will soon terminate! |
23:23.38 | dcordes_ | again |
23:23.56 | Zoolooc | and this time you ran synce-dccm? |
23:24.04 | dcordes_ | lol no |
23:24.06 | dcordes_ | must be the beer |
23:24.39 | Zoolooc | hehe |
23:24.41 | dcordes_ | there is no such binary in my $PATH although it installed fine |
23:25.01 | Zoolooc | maybe it's called jsut dccm |
23:25.10 | dcordes_ | yep |
23:25.10 | dcordes_ | ran it |
23:25.27 | Zoolooc | it might have forked into background |
23:25.40 | Zoolooc | now you can run that configure line and then start |
23:25.41 | dcordes_ | synce-serial-start cannot find the dccm process. |
23:26.10 | Zoolooc | does ubunto also know about other *dccm incarnations? |
23:26.24 | dcordes_ | ah I tried to run it as # |
23:26.58 | Zoolooc | look for it's service script and put it in your services to start |
23:27.35 | dcordes_ | finally |
23:27.37 | dcordes_ | synce-serial-start is now waiting for your device to connect |
23:27.50 | dcordes_ | I get no new interfaces up- |
23:28.23 | Zoolooc | was your kaiser connected via USB, configured in serial mode and "alive"? |
23:28.42 | dcordes_ | kaiser is alive |
23:28.48 | dcordes_ | it is connected via usb |
23:28.50 | Zoolooc | you should also see something on the kaiser display when running synce-serial-start |
23:28.57 | dcordes_ | and I disabled the erweiterte stuff |
23:29.00 | dcordes_ | as you discribed |
23:29.56 | Zoolooc | and the ipaq kernel module loaded and created that /dev/ttyUSB0 device? |
23:30.14 | Zoolooc | and did you run the config line? |
23:30.44 | Zoolooc | maybe you just need odccm |
23:30.45 | dcordes_ | device was there |
23:30.52 | Zoolooc | was? |
23:30.58 | dcordes_ | I'm rebooting |
23:31.00 | Zoolooc | or still is? |
23:32.04 | dcordes_ | ok |
23:32.05 | dcordes_ | up again |
23:32.41 | dcordes_ | ok |
23:32.46 | dcordes_ | the interface is there |
23:33.17 | dcordes_ | I was trying to read with cat /dev/ttyUSB0 |
23:33.28 | dcordes_ | it said CLIENT |
23:33.35 | dcordes_ | and then on kaiser Verbinden mit 'USB popped up |
23:36.23 | Zoolooc | dcordes_: that's it, then, you should now be able to telnet to that IP |
23:36.34 | Zoolooc | shown as remote in the ppp0 interface |
23:36.42 | dcordes_ | there is still no interface- |
23:37.06 | dcordes_ | synce-serial-config /dev/ttyUSB0 192.168.131.102:192.168.131.201 |
23:37.17 | Zoolooc | strange, waht about odccm now, does it ruin? |
23:37.20 | dcordes_ | synce-serial-start |
23:37.22 | Zoolooc | run? |
23:37.34 | dcordes_ | #synce-serial-start did not ask for dccm |
23:37.44 | dcordes_ | synce-serial-start is now waiting for your device to connect |
23:37.48 | dcordes_ | #no activity on kaiser |
23:37.58 | dcordes_ | no interface |
23:38.08 | Zoolooc | very strange, maybe you really need odccm |
23:38.20 | dcordes_ | I have it |
23:38.23 | dcordes_ | and it runs |
23:38.56 | dcordes_ | I would rather like to try the other non-ipaq method |
23:38.59 | dcordes_ | maybe it works for me |
23:39.39 | Zoolooc | I think that one too needs odccm |
23:39.56 | Zoolooc | but for me, that one fails sooner, already at the kernel part |
23:39.59 | dcordes_ | no problem I have odccm |
23:42.29 | dcordes_ | synce is now waiting .. |
23:42.34 | dcordes_ | but kaiser does nothing |
23:42.42 | dcordes_ | odccm is on |
23:45.17 | Zoolooc | strange, for me it just connects as soon as pysically connecting the usb cable (well, I told you, odccm servioce is running all the time, and I'm calling the synce-serial-config blabla and the serial-start by an udev rule |
23:48.22 | dcordes_ | synce-serial-start detected that a SynCE serial connection was already |
23:48.22 | dcordes_ | started with PID 31436. |
23:56.17 | cr2_ | how do i block the fscking flash spam in firefox ? |