| 00:00.08 | x_bruno | I will look into p2p |
| 00:00.17 | x_bruno | it is amazing the list of stuff you find there |
| 00:00.22 | dcordes | p2p? |
| 00:00.58 | x_bruno | emule |
| 00:01.18 | cr2_ | good night |
| 00:01.20 | dcordes | I doubt someone put his kaiser internal pics there |
| 00:01.22 | dcordes | cr2_, nite |
| 00:01.22 | x_bruno | from this diff file, there is a framebuffer, and there is color experiments |
| 00:01.28 | x_bruno | cr2_: cya |
| 00:01.35 | x_bruno | thanks for the help |
| 00:01.49 | rakeem | G'nite man... |
| 00:01.50 | dcordes | x_bruno, it has a mach type for kaiser and vsfb |
| 00:03.20 | x_bruno | dcordes: can you read basic assembler? |
| 00:03.30 | x_bruno | line 933 |
| 00:03.35 | x_bruno | write a black pixel |
| 00:03.36 | dcordes | x_bruno, not at all |
| 00:03.48 | dcordes | you mean in the diff? |
| 00:03.54 | x_bruno | yes |
| 00:04.07 | dcordes | ah ok. I tried to read c before, yes let me see |
| 00:04.10 | x_bruno | first three lines can be done in one instruction |
| 00:04.25 | dcordes | linux-msm kaiser things were my first attempts though :) |
| 00:04.29 | x_bruno | movr11, #0xD0001020 |
| 00:04.38 | x_bruno | mov r11, #0xD0001020 |
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| 00:05.01 | x_bruno | then basically r12 = 0(black color) |
| 00:05.22 | dcordes | x_bruno, notice that the framebuffer there is not usable at all |
| 00:05.25 | dcordes | we can remove it I guess |
| 00:05.29 | x_bruno | and then *r11 = r12; (this is how it would look like in c) |
| 00:06.23 | x_bruno | so basically put a 0 in the memory zone #0xD0001020 |
| 00:07.10 | x_bruno | the thing is I am not that proficcient in haret, or else it would not be difficult to at least put images and text |
| 00:08.14 | dcordes | x_bruno, you mean our display driver is no problem? |
| 00:08.19 | Nik0784 | I have been trying to catchup on this project online, as it has peaked my interest, I have a Hermes, and from what I have read all that can be accomplished so far is that the kernel boots, and you can telnet into the device over USB, but the most recent postings about this project that I could find are roughly several months old, could anyone be so kind as to point me in the direction of more current information? |
| 00:08.27 | x_bruno | dcordes: I don't know so far |
| 00:08.38 | x_bruno | haRET can write to memory directly right? |
| 00:09.14 | dcordes | x_bruno, hm no idea |
| 00:09.25 | dcordes | I only know it boots zImages and does resarch stuff |
| 00:09.42 | dcordes | I have no real basical techincal knowledge about all this |
| 00:11.08 | dcordes | Nik0784, cr2_ is the guy to ask about herems |
| 00:11.38 | Nik0784 | Oh, okay thanks. |
| 00:15.24 | x_bruno | dcordes, I get exceptions while trying to read from that memory zone |
| 00:16.10 | x_bruno | dcordes: what was the original framebuffer memory? |
| 00:16.21 | dcordes | x_bruno, did you read Kevin2 and cr2_'s coments on display address space earlier? |
| 00:16.29 | dcordes | x_bruno, don't know |
| 00:16.38 | dcordes | x_bruno, you mean the thing that does not work? |
| 00:17.51 | x_bruno | yes |
| 00:18.33 | dcordes | x_bruno, I have a haret command here that prints the display white |
| 00:18.46 | dcordes | maybet hat contains the required address space? |
| 00:19.26 | Kevin2 | Nik0784: We're somewhat stalled on Hermes because it uses the ATI chip to access the SD card. cr2 is working on a driver for that. |
| 00:20.45 | x_bruno | Kevin2: any ideas on the mapping of the vram? |
| 00:22.21 | x_bruno | dcordes: try this |
| 00:22.47 | x_bruno | in haret pdump 0x10000000 2 |
| 00:22.57 | x_bruno | then open the handset and do the same |
| 00:23.03 | dcordes | second |
| 00:23.06 | x_bruno | you will get different values |
| 00:23.11 | Nik0784 | Ah, okay, I was also wondering if I could help in anyway, I have some experience programming in linux, as well as experience writing assembly code, is there a forum or something for developers to contribute? |
| 00:23.35 | dcordes | Nik0784, there is xda-developers.com |
| 00:23.48 | dcordes | but that is more or less merely a user forum |
| 00:23.59 | dcordes | there is no htc-linux.org or the like (yet) |
| 00:24.02 | Nik0784 | Yeah, I scoured it prior to coming here lol |
| 00:24.28 | dcordes | I was thinking a bout htc-linux.org specifically for htc development purposes only |
| 00:24.44 | dcordes | Nik0784, you will find a lot of info on xda-developers.com on herems though |
| 00:24.45 | Nik0784 | all I found was a forum on xda-developers, and a link to the wiki page |
| 00:25.16 | Nik0784 | but the forum was mostly talk of people attempting to boot the linux kernel and accessing the device via USB using telnet |
| 00:25.21 | dcordes | yes on the wiki page there should be some info for hermes |
| 00:27.05 | Kevin2 | Nik0784: Grab the hh.org cvs - see http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GettingHandheldKernels |
| 00:27.55 | Kevin2 | The hermes specific code is in arch/arm/mach-s3c2442/htchermes/ |
| 00:28.27 | dcordes | x_bruno, I get "10000000 | 00000000 | ...." on "pdump 0x10000000 2" |
| 00:28.57 | Nik0784 | Kevin2: Thanks. |
| 00:29.08 | dcordes | Kevin2, is there a way to minimize haret? |
| 00:29.12 | Kevin2 | You should be able to build it and launch linux. I also have some pre-made images at: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/HTCHermes/ |
| 00:29.13 | dcordes | in terms of gui |
| 00:29.21 | Nik0784 | Time to put my sim card in my Nokia E62 for a while :) |
| 00:29.28 | x_bruno | i was tring to see the red mappings |
| 00:29.40 | x_bruno | mapping 0xd0000000 always fails |
| 00:30.33 | Kevin2 | dcordes: I use the "magic button" software. It lets you move to different windows without closing stuff. |
| 00:30.51 | dcordes | Kevin2, thanks will try this |
| 00:31.22 | dcordes | wow freeware for wince... incredible ^^ |
| 00:31.46 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Total commander is also nice. Google maps is great! |
| 00:32.09 | dcordes | I already got total commander on Babel0's suggestion |
| 00:32.45 | dcordes | google maps is working great together with qualcomm gps. I was wondering if there is a function to have the satellite imagery data downloaded.. |
| 00:34.08 | Kevin2 | On my phone, under menu there is an option to enable satellite view. |
| 00:35.06 | dcordes | let me see |
| 00:35.53 | dcordes | nice. Didn't notice it |
| 00:37.01 | Kevin2 | Google maps is the first app I've seen that works really well. All the other apps (and especially the phone software) are all junk IMO. |
| 00:37.16 | Kevin2 | (Under wince of course.) |
| 00:37.39 | dcordes | Kevin2, didn't try any other gps program on kaiser then google maps yet. What about gps start. does that work for you with google maps? |
| 00:37.52 | dcordes | if gps was idle, google maps does not make it start somehow |
| 00:37.58 | Kevin2 | I haven't tried it. |
| 00:38.02 | dcordes | I need to run a small program I have on the device first |
| 00:39.43 | dcordes | heh it's real fun to fiddle around in satellite mode |
| 00:42.36 | x_bruno | my turn to turn in |
| 00:42.46 | x_bruno | nite |
| 00:42.54 | dcordes | x_bruno, gnite |
| 00:44.40 | dcordes | Kevin2, do you know any other useful and free software among total and maps? |
| 00:49.35 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Those are the ones I've used - the list at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Must_have_tools is how I found most of these tools. |
| 00:50.02 | dcordes | ah very useful. thanks |
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| 01:11.40 | dcordes | gnite all |
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| 05:32.42 | goxboxlive | morning |
| 05:33.26 | ellisway | morning |
| 05:33.45 | ellisway | hows it going goxboxlive |
| 05:34.01 | ellisway | i been playing around with the new single cab installer |
| 05:35.02 | goxboxlive | hi ellisway, Yes, the cab installer is quite easy and nice. |
| 05:35.30 | ellisway | noticed 1 thing when i use the power button and tell qtoopia to shutdown |
| 05:35.50 | ellisway | it shuts it down but the screen stays in a stale state |
| 05:36.07 | ellisway | leaving part of the qtopia desktop still in the fb memory |
| 05:36.29 | ellisway | never returns to a txt console |
| 05:36.45 | ellisway | also the modem still seems weird |
| 05:36.52 | ellisway | i have had it running once |
| 05:36.59 | ellisway | but most of the time it failes |
| 05:37.29 | goxboxlive | ellisway: i have mention the shutdown issue before on the forums, you have to use restart device |
| 05:37.51 | goxboxlive | phone works, seem like usb from computer has to be connected |
| 05:37.58 | ellisway | yeh |
| 05:38.45 | ellisway | i missed that in the forum |
| 05:38.45 | ellisway | is that in the linux on universal thread |
| 05:40.58 | ellisway | hmm |
| 05:41.37 | ellisway | seems like most of the time that the phone locks with the no network is when the mux device cant be accessed/opened |
| 05:42.01 | ellisway | Modem : querying multiplexer plugin "ficgta01multiplex" |
| 05:42.01 | ellisway | File not opened |
| 05:43.06 | ellisway | unfortunantly i`ve lost the log from when it did open the mux |
| 05:46.48 | goxboxlive | we dont use mux with universalk. I jhave no idea what it might be. The phone libbs for universal should be cleaned up. but i havent gotten that far yet. |
| 05:47.49 | ellisway | k |
| 05:53.05 | ellisway | ok |
| 05:53.24 | ellisway | question for you goxboxlive how can i do a reset of the modem |
| 05:53.50 | ellisway | is there a way to unload/reload the modem module |
| 05:54.12 | ellisway | was going to have a look at the modem with cu |
| 05:54.22 | ellisway | but cu syas the device is already in use |
| 05:54.59 | goxboxlive | ellisway: you have to change owner of ttyS0 |
| 05:55.25 | ellisway | any specific owner to change it to ? |
| 05:55.34 | ellisway | current is root.dialout |
| 05:56.11 | goxboxlive | Myabe i should try the modem as a module and not in the kernel. It might help if it get released after Qtopia shutdown. I'll test when i get home. |
| 05:56.15 | goxboxlive | root.root |
| 05:56.25 | ellisway | k |
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| 06:17.22 | ellisway | weird |
| 06:17.39 | ellisway | anyway |
| 06:18.26 | ellisway | i can get a log of what happens when the modem works and also a log of when it doesn`t as long as i have the right logging enabled at chat modem and mux |
| 06:30.09 | ellisway | the 1st diff i see between the 2 logs is the following when it works |
| 06:30.12 | ellisway | AtChat : T : "ATE0V1" |
| 06:30.12 | ellisway | AtChat : F : |
| 06:30.12 | ellisway | AtChat : F : OK |
| 06:30.38 | ellisway | and when it doesn`t |
| 06:30.41 | ellisway | AtChat : T : "ATE0V1" |
| 06:30.41 | ellisway | AtChat : F : AT-Command Interpreter ready |
| 06:31.02 | ellisway | the next line of both logs is the same |
| 06:31.26 | ellisway | AtChat : T : "ATE0V1" |
| 06:31.26 | ellisway | AtChat : F : AT-Command Interpreter ready |
| 06:31.33 | ellisway | ooops |
| 06:32.02 | ellisway | Modem : Multiplexing has been disabled. |
| 06:32.03 | ellisway | Modem : querying single modem plug-in "ficgta01vendor" |
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| 06:34.26 | ellisway | then when it works |
| 06:34.30 | ellisway | AtChat : T : "AT+CBC" |
| 06:34.30 | ellisway | AtChat : Ficgta01PhoneBook::Ficgta01PhoneBook |
| 06:34.30 | ellisway | Object::connect: No such signal Ficgta01ModemService::simInserted() |
| 06:34.30 | ellisway | Object::connect: No such signal Ficgta01ModemService::simRemoved() |
| 06:34.30 | ellisway | No headset audio devices available... |
| 06:34.31 | ellisway | setBrightness 120 199 |
| 06:34.33 | ellisway | amp mode on |
| 06:34.35 | ellisway | AtChat : F : "+CBC: 0,100" |
| 06:34.37 | ellisway | AtChat : F : "OK" |
| 06:34.39 | ellisway | AtChat : T : "AT+CTZR=1" |
| 06:34.41 | ellisway | No handsfree audio devices available... |
| 06:34.43 | ellisway | AtChat : F : "ERROR" |
| 06:34.45 | ellisway | AtChat : T : "AT+GTKC=1" |
| 06:34.52 | ellisway | and when it doesn`t |
| 06:36.15 | ellisway | AtChat : T : "AT+CBC" |
| 06:36.15 | ellisway | AtChat : Ficgta01PhoneBook::Ficgta01PhoneBook |
| 06:36.15 | ellisway | Object::connect: No such signal Ficgta01ModemService::simInserted() |
| 06:36.15 | ellisway | Object::connect: No such signal Ficgta01ModemService::simRemoved() |
| 06:36.15 | ellisway | No headset audio devices available... |
| 06:36.16 | ellisway | setBrightness 120 199 |
| 06:36.18 | ellisway | amp mode on |
| 06:36.20 | ellisway | AtChat : F : "+CBC: 0,100" |
| 06:36.22 | ellisway | No handsfree audio devices available... |
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| 07:27.07 | goxboxlive | cr2_: what do we have to do to support modem suspend/resume om HTC Universal? |
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| 08:48.39 | steve-_ | ellisway, sending \r\n or just \n termianted strings? |
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| 09:36.42 | BabelO | hi |
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| 10:57.56 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: is it possible to install the latest wince2005se on a locked phone ? |
| 10:58.17 | cr2_ | maybe i should do it after all. |
| 10:59.00 | goxboxlive | cr2_: yes i think so. |
| 10:59.16 | goxboxlive | is it sim locked? |
| 11:00.17 | cr2_ | net locked. |
| 11:00.29 | goxboxlive | cr2_: i think you will need WinXP to do it though |
| 11:01.02 | cr2_ | ok, i'll try this evening. |
| 11:01.29 | cr2_ | i think we should change the initial asic3 gpio settings. |
| 11:01.51 | cr2_ | and maybe patch haret to autodisable the BT,wifi and phone at boot. |
| 11:02.21 | cr2_ | the rilgsm.dll is completely different there. |
| 11:03.09 | cr2_ | and i don't see the asic3 gpiob3 periodical changes. at least in the software. |
| 11:07.09 | Robot_ | is there any tutorial on how to dump memory with haret ? it kinda does not seem to work ... |
| 11:08.39 | cr2_ | Robot_: 'pd 0xpaddr size' |
| 11:09.01 | cr2_ | yes, the help for 'pd' disappeared. |
| 11:09.09 | Robot_ | cr2: i have tried that, but the content doesn't seem to be right |
| 11:09.23 | cr2_ | what are you dumping ? |
| 11:09.38 | Robot_ | ati memory space |
| 11:10.48 | cr2_ | framebuffer ? or the control registers ? |
| 11:11.51 | Robot_ | control registers, address 0x8000000 size 0x2000 |
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| 11:13.38 | Robot_ | i also tried to find the virtual address and then dumping it, but that gave me the same result |
| 11:15.30 | cr2_ | Robot_: it should work. |
| 11:15.50 | cr2_ | Robot_: does 'atidbg' work for you ? |
| 11:16.33 | Robot_ | cr2_: it does, it gives me few things |
| 11:16.40 | cr2_ | you can also pick the newer gnu-haret version |
| 11:16.44 | Robot_ | but i dont think i have the newest haret |
| 11:16.57 | Robot_ | where do i pick that ? |
| 11:17.47 | cr2_ | i'll upload the binary. it's a big hack, and it work only on pxa. |
| 11:18.46 | cr2_ | i just don't have time to port the code over to mainline. |
| 11:19.34 | cr2_ | http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret |
| 11:22.03 | cr2_ | the atidbg is more verbose there. |
| 11:23.05 | Robot_ | i will try it |
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| 11:36.05 | Robot_ | cr2: works, but pd gives the same output |
| 11:45.35 | Robot_ | ok, I assume that ati has som sort of write only registers, i was able to rewrite them with 0xFFFF |
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| 13:03.14 | cr2_ | Robot_: are you going to debug the ati accel fb functions? |
| 13:03.36 | cr2_ | bbl |
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| 14:12.29 | Pryan|oFF | cr2_ r u here ? |
| 14:20.31 | Pryan2 | somebody who tells me the linux setup page of HTC Advantage |
| 14:21.30 | Pryan2 | and the progress with the kernel and aplications |
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| 14:42.39 | Pryan2 | ok. there is not pages available, only a page with the hardware |
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| 15:12.18 | dcordes | hi |
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| 17:27.05 | cr2_ | hehe. i can only laugh about the iphone. |
| 17:35.25 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 17:35.31 | BabelO | what about iPhone ? |
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| 17:54.11 | dcordes | cr2_, you checked it out at tmobile shop of your trust ^^ ? |
| 17:57.45 | cr2_ | dcordes: i'm not sick to pay 999€ for such shitty device. lol, and now even _that_ is impossible. |
| 17:58.03 | dcordes | yes I've seen it on spiegel online |
| 17:58.27 | paulproteus | Hah re: "even _that_" |
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| 18:05.25 | Pryan | hi |
| 18:09.06 | dcordes | hi |
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| 18:13.05 | pH5 | good evening |
| 18:14.05 | dcordes | good evening pH5 |
| 18:14.29 | cr2_ | hi pH5 |
| 18:14.50 | Kevin2 | Hi pH5 |
| 18:15.01 | pH5 | hi dcordes, cr2_, Kevin2 |
| 18:15.04 | cr2_ | pH5: i've realized that i was powering BA from the zaurus power supply. |
| 18:15.48 | dcordes | zaurus ps supplies 5v |
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| 18:20.58 | cr2_ | heh. now i've remembered what has happened to the BA power supply. |
| 18:21.42 | cr2_ | i#ve cut the connector, so i could charge ba and zaurus simultaneously in the car, together with powering the gps receiver ;) |
| 18:26.21 | J4k3 | 4 usb ports, basically an old USB 1.1 hub |
| 18:26.53 | Pryan | hello cr2_ |
| 18:26.56 | J4k3 | ciggy lighter plugs are too bitchy, plus I have USB cables for everything |
| 18:27.06 | Pryan | how is going the drivers for Athena ? |
| 18:27.49 | Pryan | i test the athena-boot.exe |
| 18:28.06 | J4k3 | dcordes: well, I used to carry a CB radio, 2 6v rechargable sealed lead acid batteries, and a small generator on a 10 speed mountain bike. |
| 18:28.17 | Pryan | but i can't do anything without the keyboard driver |
| 18:28.34 | J4k3 | the CB was actually a real standard under-the-dash mobile unit, and the bike had a 108" stainless steel whip antenna (which made the bike kinda weird to ride..) |
| 18:29.16 | dcordes | heh |
| 18:39.04 | cr2_ | Pryan: i've used the usb keyboard, but then it's tricky to boot the machine. |
| 18:39.32 | cr2_ | Kevin2: do you have some progress with the spi keyboard ? |
| 18:40.52 | Kevin2 | cr2_: I got a good portion done. But then I got stalled with the spi driver stuff. The spi stuff is complicated. |
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| 18:42.30 | cr2_ | Kevin2: that's true. |
| 18:43.13 | Pryan | cr2, i have made the haret dump |
| 18:43.32 | Pryan | if you want the ATHENA dump of CPIO |
| 18:43.53 | rakeem | Hey guys.... Can someone help me with acx / BA config? |
| 18:44.15 | cr2_ | Pryan: which dump ? |
| 18:45.33 | cr2_ | rakeem: do you have the pcmcia-tools ? BabelO should have included them into his image. i don't remember the details, but it's something simple. |
| 18:45.49 | cr2_ | Pryan: which boardid do you have ? |
| 18:45.50 | Pryan | i cannot send you with DCC |
| 18:46.18 | Pryan | how i get this info with haret ? |
| 18:46.58 | rakeem | When I boot I see at least one pcmcia module with lsmod. I modprobe acx, ifup wlan0, then nothing from iw/ifconfig... |
| 18:47.32 | cr2_ | rakeem: something with 'cardctl xxx' |
| 18:47.57 | cr2_ | Pryan: save the wince 'dmesg' area, and open it in the text editor |
| 18:49.41 | Pryan | sorry, i must to go, we will be in contact, maybe i enter later with my athena if i get GPRS link |
| 18:49.48 | Pryan | as Pryan2 |
| 18:49.58 | rakeem | Doh... You might be right there... |
| 18:50.44 | rakeem | How're youse getting on with "The Kaiser"...? |
| 18:50.58 | Pryan | bye |
| 18:51.11 | rakeem | Tara Pryan... |
| 18:52.20 | rakeem | Hey, cr2, what do you think of the Moko phone, and did you ever go any further with the Razr V8? [irc log] |
| 18:53.33 | cr2_ | i don't have razr v8. only v3, as a christmas gift for my grandmother :) |
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| 18:55.46 | cr2_ | moko1 is an underpowered device with questionable hw quality. moko2 is an interesting competitor to hermes. all imho. |
| 18:56.28 | cr2_ | i hope we will make hermes run soon. |
| 18:56.42 | Zoolooc | hello folks |
| 18:57.31 | rakeem | Hermes...? At the moment I can't get my hands on enough odd bits of hardware to squeeze linux onto... I've found that attacking Unix from as many weird angles as I can forces understanding... A mate reckons I should run a BSD box too... |
| 18:57.45 | dcordes | Zoolooc, hey we made great progress about kaiser display |
| 18:58.08 | dcordes | bruno_x has full access to the display with haret |
| 18:58.15 | dcordes | as in he can paint every pixel in every colour |
| 18:58.30 | Zoolooc | awesome |
| 18:58.38 | rakeem | Bloody hell! In twelve hours?! |
| 18:59.36 | Zoolooc | so I'm supposing the vsfb is no problem either for the kaiser now? |
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| 19:00.08 | cr2_ | dcordes: where is this data ? |
| 19:00.38 | dcordes | Zoolooc, x_bruno said there will be no problem to integrate that into some framebuffer now |
| 19:01.58 | rakeem | cr2: Yeah, the Hermes is a tidy little beast... James Bond linux steath... |
| 19:02.23 | dcordes | cr2_, in my inbox |
| 19:02.35 | cr2_ | dcordes: ok :) |
| 19:03.33 | cr2_ | rakeem: unfortunately they've crippled it by making gps unusable. |
| 19:04.06 | dcordes | Zoolooc, try this in haret "pfw 0x100001dc 1 0xf80007e0" (you should see green and then red) and "pfw 0x100001dc 1 0x07e0001f" (you should see blue and then green) in top right corner |
| 19:04.53 | pH5 | heh, kaiser has the framebuffer at 0x10000000 in sdram. of course you can paint every pixel. |
| 19:05.45 | cr2_ | dcordes: the 0x1dc is the first pixel ? |
| 19:05.53 | pH5 | more problematic are the thinks that don't work (disabling interrupts / reading the some register iomem). |
| 19:06.11 | dcordes | pH5, don't know I guess xbruno is on it |
| 19:07.19 | cr2_ | pH5: there are also some "secure" bits. i guess androids will never tell us about them. |
| 19:07.22 | pH5 | cr2_: "top right" |
| 19:07.46 | pH5 | cr2_: any idea how to tackle this? |
| 19:07.47 | rakeem | History will judge them... It's very encouraging to see you guys casually annexing an unfamiliar display... |
| 19:07.53 | pH5 | somebody should start to take the bootloader apart |
| 19:08.15 | dcordes | pH5, kaiser bootloader? |
| 19:08.40 | cr2_ | 240*2=0x1e0 |
| 19:08.57 | cr2_ | pH5: we have some other devices to finish first :) |
| 19:09.29 | cr2_ | pH5: i know some of them, what's written there. |
| 19:09.57 | pH5 | cr2_: that is true :) |
| 19:11.19 | cr2_ | pH5: if you'll be happy with ba usb charger i'll send you the docking station. you'll need to look for a 5v power supply. |
| 19:12.25 | dcordes | cr2_, pH5 I tried to conclude the info he supplied http://pastebin.ca/805872 hope he will not be angry with me |
| 19:14.07 | cr2_ | dcordes: ok, so the vsfb should work as is. |
| 19:14.16 | cr2_ | the problem is with gpio & irq. |
| 19:16.42 | dcordes | hmm |
| 19:16.50 | pH5 | cr2_: that'd be great. I'm mostly interested in the usb wires correctly lining up with the BA's connector. finding an old zaurus-like 5v supply shouldn't be a problem. |
| 19:18.39 | dcordes | cr2_, how shall we go about the gpio & irq problems? |
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| 19:19.47 | kiozen | hi |
| 19:21.31 | Kevin2 | cr2_: I don't think vsfb will work - the screen is only redrawn on request. We'd need to know how to request a redraw. |
| 19:23.43 | cr2_ | hi kiozen |
| 19:24.07 | cr2_ | Kevin2: ok, but then we need to learn more about the MDDI and LCD registers. |
| 19:24.14 | kiozen | hy cr2_, any news on the n560? |
| 19:24.34 | cr2_ | kiozen: can you tell me more about the boot problems ? |
| 19:25.03 | kiozen | yes, I write a short pastebin... |
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| 19:28.13 | rakeem | Any idea why my BA keeps thinking keys are stuck infinitely? Haven't let it sleep.... |
| 19:39.11 | kiozen | cr2_: http://pastebin.ca/805897 |
| 19:39.20 | kiozen | these are my observations |
| 19:43.43 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.43 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.43 | cr2_ | ---> device stalls (always) |
| 19:44.17 | cr2_ | kiozen: this must be some haret problem. |
| 19:44.33 | cr2_ | Boot-NFS ... |
| 19:44.41 | cr2_ | do we include nfsboot ? |
| 19:44.57 | cr2_ | mmcblk0: unknown partition table |
| 19:45.14 | cr2_ | you did not partition the card ? |
| 19:45.25 | cr2_ | what is your kernel command line then ? |
| 19:45.33 | kiozen | could it be that the suspend mode of wince set some gpios that are assumed to be in a different state after hard reset? |
| 19:45.53 | kiozen | sd does not have a partition |
| 19:45.59 | cr2_ | yes, the resume setup is very tricky. |
| 19:46.28 | kiozen | set MTYPE 1417 |
| 19:46.28 | kiozen | set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0 rootdelay=10" |
| 19:46.28 | kiozen | ramboot |
| 19:46.33 | cr2_ | it expects several registers to have certain values, and some SDRAM locations too. |
| 19:46.47 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 19:48.03 | cr2_ | Kevin2: what can be the reason for hanging after "Turning off MMU" ? |
| 19:48.18 | kiozen | I would say the "unknown partition" stuff is just secondary, prinary it is a sign that the kernel has access to the SD card |
| 19:48.42 | cr2_ | kiozen: yes, it's not the problem, since you know what you are doing :) |
| 19:49.25 | kiozen | no I don't know what I am doing... ;) |
| 19:49.25 | cr2_ | your usb host ... |
| 19:49.54 | cr2_ | if you boot a partitionless card, you know what you are doing :) |
| 19:50.27 | kiozen | ok, didn't know that it was that easy.... |
| 19:50.44 | cr2_ | USB host comm. area : 0xa0050000 |
| 19:51.46 | cr2_ | kiozen: can you grab the gnu-haret at http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret and make a "dump pxa27x" again ? |
| 19:52.03 | kiozen | on my way... |
| 19:53.37 | cr2_ | yes, PSPL is on, your ohci needs a custom setup. |
| 19:54.18 | Kevin2 | kiozen: Do you get a message "Boot FB feedback requested, but FB overlaps with kernel structures - feedback disabled" earlier on? |
| 19:54.52 | cr2_ | Kevin2: this is an n560 device, but it's booted as c550 |
| 19:55.06 | cr2_ | it has very funny pocketpc_id |
| 19:55.11 | Kevin2 | cr2_: The message "Turning off MMU...\n" is the last message if the FB overlaps the kernel. |
| 19:55.16 | cr2_ | kiozen: can you pastebin the haretlog ? |
| 19:56.10 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i don't know where is the fb mapped on n560, it probably should be included in the haretlog |
| 19:56.10 | kiozen | that is dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/805914 |
| 19:56.22 | kiozen | haretlog in a second... |
| 19:56.58 | Kevin2 | cr2_: The fb location is reported during the boot sequence. |
| 19:57.17 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.20 | cr2_ | kiozen: nothing unusual in the log. only this message |
| 19:58.47 | cr2_ | what is irq0 on pxa ?? |
| 19:59.16 | cr2_ | is it some rtc bug ? |
| 19:59.29 | cr2_ | never seen it before. |
| 20:00.20 | kiozen | dump pxa27: http://pastebin.ca/805918 |
| 20:00.55 | cr2_ | Kevin2: OEMINFO is "FUJITSU SIEMENS COMPUTERS Pocket LOOX 5xx" |
| 20:01.09 | cr2_ | this is PXA270 cpu |
| 20:01.58 | cr2_ | ok, the fb is in the second megabyte. wince kernel is in the third. |
| 20:02.10 | cr2_ | the SPL is in the first. |
| 20:03.25 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i guess the fb ram/descriptors will be overwritten by the kernel |
| 20:03.38 | cr2_ | kernel=linux zimage |
| 20:03.58 | Kevin2 | Could be. |
| 20:04.46 | cr2_ | is it possible to disable the fb while boot ? |
| 20:05.14 | Kevin2 | Of course - you need to modify the Mach->hardwareShutdown method. |
| 20:05.24 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:05.43 | cr2_ | i'd like to do the same for the BT and wifi too. where they are known. |
| 20:06.15 | Kevin2 | bbl |
| 20:07.49 | kiozen | cr2_ sorry, I forgot how to do that haret log |
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| 20:09.24 | cr2_ | kiozen: i've already got the necessary data from your dump. |
| 20:09.30 | kiozen | ok :) |
| 20:16.34 | cr2_ | kiozen: create the earlyharetlog.txt in the same directory as haret.exe |
| 20:16.48 | cr2_ | and post the haretlog.txt to haret@handhelds.org |
| 20:16.58 | kiozen | ack |
| 20:23.36 | kiozen | cr2_ done |
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| 20:30.22 | rakeem | Got wlan0 for about 5 secs before lockup... Didn't even get to bring it up... Any ideas...? |
| 20:30.59 | cr2_ | kiozen: waiting for Kevin2 now. |
| 20:31.15 | cr2_ | rakeem: ask BabelO when he appears |
| 20:31.47 | kiozen | ok, guru meditation... |
| 20:32.05 | rakeem | He the BA guru? |
| 20:32.24 | rakeem | <rakeem smells an Amiga user> |
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| 20:52.14 | Robot_ | cr2: how far away are the registers video registers from SD registers on the ati you are trying to get to work ? I mean offset :) |
| 20:55.40 | cr2_ | 0x202000 |
| 20:55.53 | cr2_ | it's all in the atiwxxx |
| 20:56.08 | Robot_ | cr2_: ok thanks |
| 20:56.36 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ATIWxxxx |
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| 21:00.04 | cr2_ | good night |
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| 21:08.34 | rakeem | How do I kick bluetooth off? I've tried hciattach ttyS1 texas, like worked on the Uni... |
| 21:12.45 | Hymie | do NOT kick your blue tooth.. you can get a pill to cure that, instead |
| 21:18.27 | rakeem | Nothing against the device, just its maker.... |
| 21:22.00 | dcordes | pH5, "<pH5> somebody should start to take the bootloader apart" did you mean the kaiser bootloader? |
| 21:24.50 | pH5 | dcordes: yup |
| 21:25.23 | dcordes | How can I dump/download/whatever it? |
| 21:31.20 | pH5 | dcordes: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680 |
| 21:32.07 | dcordes | pH5, I also just found this page |
| 21:34.47 | dcordes | pH5, can't one take such one here http://www.deathace.net/files/T-MobileUK_Kaiser130_1.56.110.4_Dump_ROM.rar ? |
| 21:39.40 | pH5 | no idea |
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| 21:55.54 | dcordes | pH5, I will fire up winbloze and try things out |
| 21:55.57 | Kevin2 | Hi |
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| 22:28.34 | x_bruno | hi everybody |
| 22:28.47 | x_bruno | I need some info on what constitutes a frame buffer |
| 22:29.49 | x_bruno | and where can I find a common definition and overall implementation |
| 22:33.22 | pH5 | x_bruno: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framebuffer |
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| 22:34.34 | x_bruno | dcordes: hi |
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| 22:34.46 | dcordes | x_bruno, hey there |
| 22:35.01 | x_bruno | dcordes: i am looking into the directfb website |
| 22:35.41 | pH5 | In our case it's usually a continuous region of SDRAM or SRAM that gets copied to the LCD all the time via a special DMA channel. |
| 22:38.50 | x_bruno | dcordes: I will make a macro to map x,y pixels to the sdram memory |
| 22:38.59 | x_bruno | or a small function |
| 22:39.15 | x_bruno | have you been playing with the colors? |
| 22:39.29 | dcordes | yep I tried the haret commands you mentioned in the mail |
| 22:39.43 | dcordes | the pixels showed up as you descriped |
| 22:39.48 | x_bruno | have you tried creating a color? |
| 22:40.08 | dcordes | nope |
| 22:40.20 | x_bruno | do you use windows or linux? |
| 22:41.04 | dcordes | I'm in windows right now because I tried to dump kaiser's rom |
| 22:41.11 | dcordes | or bootloader to be more precise |
| 22:41.34 | dcordes | usually I use some debian basede system |
| 22:41.44 | x_bruno | there is a program called ccalc which I use a lot, it is a console calculator |
| 22:41.55 | x_bruno | you can make macros, define variables, etc |
| 22:43.05 | x_bruno | http://ccalc.shanebweb.com/ |
| 22:43.17 | dcordes | I will have a look at it |
| 22:43.57 | x_bruno | it helps a lot when you are looking at binary or hex |
| 22:44.22 | dcordes | hope it works in wine |
| 22:45.23 | x_bruno | should, it is really very basic |
| 22:45.29 | x_bruno | but extremely usefull |
| 22:46.23 | x_bruno | dcordes: I will start looking into making/porting a frame buffer, what is going on with the gpio? |
| 22:46.45 | dcordes | ah yes right the gpios and irqs |
| 22:47.23 | dcordes | after reading your mail I cam here telling about your findings. cr2_ and pH5 said it won't get us much further because there are problems with the gpios and irqs |
| 22:47.37 | dcordes | the same problems that cause the vsfb solution not to work I think |
| 22:48.05 | Kevin2 | pH5 / bd2 / cr2_ : Test git site up at: http://linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi -- I've extracted the hh.org cvs and the mainline kernel into the same git repository. (This is not the same as merging, but you can do cool things like diff versions.) |
| 22:48.05 | dcordes | cr2_, pH5 ping ^^ |
| 22:48.41 | pH5 | Kevin2: ooh :) |
| 22:51.21 | x_bruno | so there still are issues with the kernel |
| 22:51.47 | dcordes | x_bruno, I think there are many things to do with the kernel |
| 22:55.48 | dcordes | we don't have a kernel for kaiser but for some msm7200A development board called halibut |
| 22:56.56 | x_bruno | yes, I saw that at the git |
| 22:58.17 | pH5 | 'night all |
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| 22:59.18 | x_bruno | dcordes: what about those tests you where doing with cr2_ |
| 22:59.25 | x_bruno | about the touch screen? |
| 23:07.41 | dcordes | x_bruno, I need to search through the logs |
| 23:08.03 | dcordes | this may take a while. I will email you my findings ok? |
| 23:08.25 | x_bruno | ok |
| 23:08.56 | dcordes | it was something about i2c |
| 23:14.21 | x_bruno | damn, after the distro upgrade nothing works |
| 23:15.22 | x_bruno | dcordes, the dfb site looks really nice |
| 23:15.44 | dcordes | I noticed they have loads of detailed doku |
| 23:16.59 | x_bruno | yes, would be a good place to start |
| 23:23.03 | x_bruno | going to turn in |
| 23:23.13 | x_bruno | bye |
| 23:23.18 | dcordes | bye |
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