| 00:10.01 | cr2_ | BabelO: are you sleeping ? |
| 00:10.10 | BabelO | noooo :) |
| 00:10.13 | cr2_ | :) |
| 00:10.34 | cr2_ | is it possible to backup a file from CVS will all revisions ? |
| 00:10.43 | BabelO | did you solve your Qt problem ? |
| 00:10.55 | cr2_ | no, just gave up for a while. |
| 00:11.12 | cr2_ | i have a lot of such pending jobs. |
| 00:11.19 | cr2_ | multitasking ;) |
| 00:11.42 | BabelO | cr2_: yes like me :) |
| 00:11.44 | cr2_ | realtime. if a job can't be done inside a time slot, it's dropped, |
| 00:12.03 | BabelO | i don't think it is possible, at work i have subversion and never see this option |
| 00:12.31 | cr2_ | ok, so it's necessary to pick tha latest revision |
| 00:12.51 | cr2_ | and checkout all previous versions ? |
| 00:13.12 | BabelO | wait i check again ;) |
| 00:13.42 | cr2_ | actually i'd like to backup the 2.4 kernel from hh.org |
| 00:13.50 | cr2_ | with full history. |
| 00:15.51 | cr2_ | hm. it was dumb not to send pH5 the docking station for ba. |
| 00:16.38 | BabelO | cr2_: yes, did you see website i post about pinout ? there is garmin devices |
| 00:17.03 | cr2_ | yes, the garmin 4pin pinout is very simple. |
| 00:20.09 | BabelO | cr2_: no i did not found any option on my windows computer to do that |
| 00:20.59 | BabelO | it is strange, because we have a script that copy module sources with revision into another branch |
| 00:23.08 | cr2_ | ok |
| 00:23.30 | cr2_ | BabelO: how is the qt "spreadsheet" widget called ? |
| 00:25.24 | BabelO | cr2_: table widget |
| 00:27.58 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 00:31.27 | cr2_ | interesting. hermes used SDIO_SoftwareReset |
| 00:32.48 | cr2_ | athena and hermes always set the security_cmd bit |
| 00:33.03 | cr2_ | never used on the universal. |
| 00:34.07 | BabelO | cr2_: security bit |
| 00:34.28 | BabelO | cr2_: are these card crypted ? |
| 00:38.20 | cr2_ | or couse not. |
| 00:38.41 | cr2_ | i've never seen such "protected" card in real life. |
| 00:38.55 | cr2_ | i think that they do not exist. |
| 00:39.00 | BabelO | i read lot of article about that |
| 00:39.00 | cr2_ | for several reasons. |
| 00:39.30 | cr2_ | yes, some confidential spec probably exists, but is it really used ? |
| 00:39.49 | BabelO | but always think that it is just crypt between card slot and memory |
| 00:40.39 | cr2_ | no, in the most evil incarnation, it's some executable code on the sdio card. |
| 00:40.50 | BabelO | ok |
| 00:40.55 | cr2_ | it a special address space. |
| 00:41.34 | cr2_ | after we will update to 2.6.24, i'm curious what'll happen with the sdio acx100 that we have. |
| 00:42.01 | cr2_ | if the standard kernel will be able to parse the sdio tuples. |
| 00:42.19 | cr2_ | actually they are like pcmcia tuples, but i don't know :) |
| 00:42.45 | BabelO | is there a real doc on SDIO ? |
| 00:42.53 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 00:43.23 | cr2_ | it was really crippled before, but later they have published much better spec. |
| 00:44.23 | cr2_ | the sdio control code is also available in the wince platform builder. and in the several published linux sdio stacks. so there are several reference implementations. |
| 00:44.42 | cr2_ | there is even an atheros sdio wifi driver. |
| 00:45.19 | cr2_ | if we will make sdio acx100 work, it'll be a good present for out moko2 friends :) |
| 00:46.01 | BabelO | ok |
| 00:46.21 | cr2_ | there is no asic3 in athena, which makes it a good candidate for 2.6.24 |
| 00:47.18 | cr2_ | but removing crap from asic3 is a good deal. |
| 00:47.46 | BabelO | and what about your cpld issue ? |
| 00:47.46 | cr2_ | blueangel is still doing something strange with the asic3 pwm channels. and with the asic3 spi too. |
| 00:48.24 | cr2_ | it's solved. i've hardcoded my own layout for now. |
| 00:48.32 | BabelO | ok ;) |
| 00:48.44 | BabelO | and for kiozen device ? |
| 00:48.47 | BabelO | same ? |
| 00:49.01 | cr2_ | but can try to ioremap the cpld bits for the early access. |
| 00:49.15 | cr2_ | yes, and it even seems to be working. |
| 00:49.33 | cr2_ | but there is another problem of sdio-wifi/sd mux |
| 00:49.36 | BabelO | good, so gps is close to work too :) |
| 00:49.57 | cr2_ | and some strange pxa gpios. |
| 00:50.09 | cr2_ | yes, the gps itself is not a bit issue. |
| 00:50.32 | cr2_ | i may try to make it run on athena tomorrow. |
| 00:50.49 | BabelO | :) |
| 00:51.06 | cr2_ | SDIO_Cmd 00004705 |
| 00:51.15 | cr2_ | this is on athena/hermes |
| 00:51.50 | cr2_ | SD_Cmd 00000705 |
| 00:51.56 | cr2_ | this is on the universal. |
| 00:52.20 | cr2_ | the initial CMD5 command |
| 00:52.35 | cr2_ | the 0x4000 is the security bit. |
| 00:52.57 | cr2_ | according to the ipaq-asic3.h |
| 00:53.37 | BabelO | maybe they use it for something else ;) |
| 00:54.08 | cr2_ | don't know. |
| 00:54.28 | cr2_ | need to get at least some response from the sd card. |
| 00:54.41 | cr2_ | no mini/microSD sdio here. |
| 00:55.00 | cr2_ | only an old sdio sirf2 receiver. |
| 00:55.23 | cr2_ | which should work. |
| 00:55.40 | BabelO | how it look, i never see such gadget |
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| 00:56.21 | lcd15000 | hello all |
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| 01:00.15 | cr2_ | BabelO: trace analysis tools: |
| 01:00.24 | cr2_ | sed -f sed_SD_athe haretlog-20071118_224220.log | grep SDIO_ | awk '{print $4,$5,$6}' | sort -k2 | uniq | less |
| 01:00.56 | BabelO | lol still awk code :) |
| 01:01.13 | cr2_ | i enjoy inline awk :) |
| 01:01.27 | lcd15000 | hello all |
| 01:01.38 | cr2_ | as quick and dirty interpreted C |
| 01:01.40 | cr2_ | hi lcd15000 |
| 01:02.32 | cr2_ | e5832204(str) SDIO_GEN_INT_STATUS 02000000 |
| 01:02.42 | cr2_ | only 1 irq ack bit |
| 01:03.39 | cr2_ | e1c324bc(strh) SDIO_CardXferDataLen 00000008 |
| 01:03.39 | cr2_ | e1d334bc(ldrh) SDIO_CardXferDataLen 00000008 |
| 01:03.39 | cr2_ | e1c324bc(strh) SDIO_CardXferDataLen 00000200 |
| 01:03.39 | cr2_ | e1d334bc(ldrh) SDIO_CardXferDataLen 00000200 |
| 01:03.47 | cr2_ | 8byte requests ? |
| 01:03.59 | lcd15000 | so what is the main focus of this channel? |
| 01:04.03 | cr2_ | 512byte is an SD block. |
| 01:04.17 | BabelO | hello lcd15000 |
| 01:04.29 | lcd15000 | hello bableo |
| 01:04.40 | BabelO | lcd15000: it is linux on embedded device like phone or pda |
| 01:04.50 | cr2_ | running linux on htc phones. mainly. |
| 01:04.50 | lcd15000 | ah |
| 01:05.37 | cr2_ | or htc pdas. sold by others like as if they were their own development ;) |
| 01:06.10 | lcd15000 | anyone ever successfully run linux on the cingular 8125? |
| 01:06.30 | cr2_ | what is the htc name ? |
| 01:06.33 | cr2_ | e1d334b8(ldrh) SDIO_CardClockCtrl 00000080 |
| 01:06.33 | cr2_ | e1c234b8(strh) SDIO_CardClockCtrl 00000102 |
| 01:06.46 | cr2_ | BabelO: only 2 speeds. |
| 01:06.49 | lcd15000 | ummm, let me look |
| 01:07.25 | cr2_ | 102 is the div=2 -> /8 at 80MHz ? |
| 01:07.29 | lcd15000 | htc innovation 8125, is what the label under the battery says |
| 01:07.37 | cr2_ | only 10MHz for my SD card ?? |
| 01:08.06 | cr2_ | it's markting junk. |
| 01:08.13 | BabelO | lcd15000: it is htc wizard omap 850 processor |
| 01:08.29 | BabelO | lcd15000: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ |
| 01:08.34 | cr2_ | it's wizard |
| 01:08.52 | cr2_ | hehe. the i2c cpld problem. |
| 01:08.59 | lcd15000 | yes i just looked that up... |
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| 01:09.40 | lcd15000 | so anyone ever done it? |
| 01:09.40 | cr2_ | BabelO: i still don't understand why i2c and the touchscreen spi are not traceable on omap850. |
| 01:10.15 | cr2_ | lcd15000: yes, but there are several problems with it. |
| 01:11.18 | lcd15000 | ah... |
| 01:13.51 | cr2_ | good night. |
| 01:14.01 | BabelO | good night |
| 01:27.22 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 01:28.12 | BabelO | hi Kevin2 |
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| 01:40.11 | BabelO | good night all |
| 01:51.52 | lcd15000 | can anyone enlighten me on how to use my HTC Wizard as a dialup modem? |
| 01:52.08 | lcd15000 | over USB |
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| 09:57.17 | goxboxlive | cr2_: up? |
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| 13:59.51 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 14:05.42 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
| 14:42.11 | paulproteus | Hey, I see the cab files @ http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html - if I have a Magician, any hope of using them on my phone? |
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| 16:35.43 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 16:35.56 | BabelO | hi Kevin2 |
| 16:38.09 | Kevin2 | Hi BabelO. |
| 16:41.47 | BabelO | Kevin2: with the new system, it is really cool to test new image like gpe/opie and others ;) |
| 16:43.31 | Kevin2 | Cool. It's worked out better than I thought. I'm hoping more people will try images and perhaps start working on distribution issues. |
| 16:44.19 | BabelO | Kevin2: yes i ve to do same for BA image |
| 16:46.02 | Kevin2 | It would be nice if we could get to the point where one distribution ran on all the different pdas and phones. We spend too much time scattered across different projects. |
| 16:47.50 | BabelO | yes, agree with that. maybe we need a separate tgz file with just zImage and modules. and need to hadle all settings in init.d scripts |
| 16:51.33 | steve-_ | How does the spi protocol between the DSP and the gsm baseband look like? |
| 16:55.45 | Kevin2 | steve-_: omap850? Do you know if the DSP uses the MMU? If it does, you could try tracing it in haret to see what the protocol is. |
| 16:57.37 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. Actually, that wont work. |
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| 16:59.08 | dcordes | hi |
| 17:07.17 | Kevin2 | Hi dcordes. What's the problem you are seeing with haret? |
| 17:08.29 | dcordes | Kevin2: Hey I am composing an email for you at this moment. Shall I send this or also explain here? |
| 17:11.50 | dcordes | Kevin2: Zoolooc told me it would be better to contact you by email because of differing time zones |
| 17:12.18 | Kevin2 | Either way is fine. |
| 17:13.03 | Kevin2 | We don't need to wait for the weekend to fix a problem - but now that we're both here, you can describe it if is easier. |
| 17:15.20 | dcordes | Kevin2: maybe the email will be fine. I put all information I can give you on the topic inside. What's the address? haret@handhelds.org ? |
| 17:16.28 | Kevin2 | Yes |
| 17:20.23 | cr2_ | hi |
| 17:21.06 | cr2_ | Kevin2: why is it not possible to trace i2c and spi on omap850 ? |
| 17:24.44 | dcordes | Kevin2: You should have mail |
| 17:28.31 | Kevin2 | cr2_: It doesn't work for you? |
| 17:28.38 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Yep - I just got it. |
| 17:28.48 | dcordes | ok |
| 17:29.22 | dcordes | Kevin2: "lsusb" eso mentra el mouse? |
| 17:29.33 | dcordes | sorry channel.. |
| 17:32.20 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Where did you get your haret from? I'm actually a bit confused how it detected your machine as msm7500.. |
| 17:33.11 | dcordes | First I used a version Zoolooc compiled me. Then I tried the one mentioned in the mail |
| 17:33.46 | dcordes | maybe this was a mistake and http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071122.exe is older? |
| 17:34.50 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i don't have omap850, so afaik nobody could trace the touchscreen or i2c. |
| 17:36.19 | Kevin2 | dcordes: I don't think that is an issue. It's just odd - I don't match on msm7200 - only msm7500. I think the wince wstricmp is only checking half the characters or something.. |
| 17:37.07 | dcordes | oh I just though there was one mach type for both msm7200 and msm7500 in haret so I didn't worry |
| 17:37.35 | Kevin2 | Yeah - that is the right thing to do. I just haven't programmed it to do it yet. Odd. |
| 17:38.15 | paulproteus | Kevin2, Are you talking about the CAB files at the handhelds.org wiki page? |
| 17:39.00 | Kevin2 | Hi paulproteus. I don't know anything about CAB files. |
| 17:44.42 | dcordes | Kevin2: so does the msm7500 cause the lockup? |
| 17:45.18 | Kevin2 | dcordes: No - I don't think so. |
| 17:46.36 | dcordes | Kevin2: any idea what might cause it? |
| 17:47.10 | Kevin2 | dcordes: When you ran: VFH 0x51b00000 76800 0xffff -- did the whole screen turn white? |
| 17:47.52 | dcordes | well first pH5 told me to input a command which turned only the top half white- then the one in the mail turned it completly why |
| 17:48.41 | Kevin2 | dcordes: why? I wanted to make sure you had full access to the framebuffer. |
| 17:49.48 | dcordes | ok wait I will fire up haretconsole |
| 17:50.13 | Kevin2 | That is not needed - if it turned the whole screen white then you have full access. |
| 17:50.37 | dcordes | ok |
| 17:50.58 | dcordes | as I said- that one command turned it half white then the other one full white. both w/o lockups or such |
| 17:52.11 | Kevin2 | dcordes: ok |
| 17:52.47 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Can you do the following: run VFH 0x51b00000 76800 0xffff -- and then run (in the same session) "dump mmu". Then post the output to pastebin? |
| 17:58.43 | dcordes | Kevin2: I have a small problem with the connection. Haret's listening but I can't connect but ping it |
| 18:01.46 | dcordes | Kevin2: dumping. Was a type |
| 18:01.54 | dcordes | s/ type/ typo |
| 18:02.24 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Ok. Did the screen turn completly white? |
| 18:04.00 | steve-_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.23 | dcordes | Kevin2: I didn't look at it right when I typed the command. looks like it was completely right and some areas got reprinted yet- will retry |
| 18:07.16 | dcordes | Kevin2: VFH 0x51b00000 76800 0xffff |
| 18:07.24 | dcordes | plain white screen. |
| 18:08.00 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Okay - can you pastebin the output from "dump mmu" _after_ running the vfh command in the same session? |
| 18:12.38 | dcordes | Kevin2: do you know a pastebin which supports shuch big files? |
| 18:12.56 | dcordes | Kevin2: ah now it works. Had an error before http://www.pastebin.org/10097 |
| 18:14.50 | Kevin2 | dcordes: It got truncated. If you can't post the full log - can you do a "grep 51 <logfile>" and post that output? |
| 18:14.51 | dcordes | pastebin.com cuts off 8000 lines... I will just email it |
| 18:15.10 | dcordes | email or grep? |
| 18:15.28 | Kevin2 | Run the grep on your log file and then pastebin the grep output. |
| 18:16.10 | dcordes | http://www.pastebin.org/10100 |
| 18:16.27 | dcordes | does this carry all the info needed? |
| 18:17.52 | Kevin2 | No - it got truncated again. Are you running windows or linux? |
| 18:18.44 | dcordes | linux |
| 18:18.50 | dcordes | 2.6.22 |
| 18:19.15 | Kevin2 | Okay. You grepped the haretlog-xyz file that haretconsole makes? |
| 18:19.21 | dcordes | yes. |
| 18:20.42 | dcordes | sending as mail attachment.... |
| 18:20.44 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. Can you do a "dos2unix < logfile | grep 51" and then try posting to pastebin.ca? |
| 18:21.08 | dcordes | pastebin.ca seems down for me- that's why I tried .com |
| 18:21.25 | Kevin2 | Okay. |
| 18:21.56 | dcordes | usually pasting the dump mmu stuff worked on pastebin.ca |
| 18:22.08 | dcordes | mail should be there |
| 18:22.22 | Kevin2 | What does "egrep '^51' logfile" show? |
| 18:23.49 | dcordes | Kevin2: 15 lines like this "51000000 | | Coarse | D=0" and this one "51b00000 | | UNMAPPED | |
| 18:25.39 | Kevin2 | dcordes: If you run "VFH 0x51a00000 76800 0xffff" does it turn the screen white? |
| 18:26.15 | dcordes | "VFH 0x51a00000 76800 0xffff" does nothing at all |
| 18:26.56 | Kevin2 | What if you do a "VFH 0x51b00000 10 0" |
| 18:27.32 | dcordes | wait - now the screen got white |
| 18:27.40 | dcordes | although delayed |
| 18:27.54 | Kevin2 | Before or after you did the second vfh? |
| 18:27.58 | dcordes | before |
| 18:28.04 | dcordes | I will retry with new console |
| 18:28.18 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Are you around? |
| 18:28.31 | dcordes | ok |
| 18:28.35 | dcordes | hit the command |
| 18:28.39 | dcordes | nothing.. |
| 18:28.44 | dcordes | now it's white |
| 18:29.08 | dcordes | except of the clock in the wm panel |
| 18:29.16 | dcordes | so there is a delay of about 10 seconds |
| 18:30.11 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Yeah. Your device doesn't have a real framebuffer. |
| 18:30.28 | Kevin2 | If you look in the mmu tables, you will see that 0x51b00000 is not mapped. |
| 18:30.36 | dcordes | ok now the second command (VFH 0x51b00000 10 0) |
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| 18:30.57 | dcordes | hi PITABoy_work |
| 18:31.01 | PITABoy_work | hi |
| 18:31.03 | dcordes | Kevin2: nothing on the second command yet.. |
| 18:31.06 | Kevin2 | So, each time something writes to that address, wince faults and writes something to the screen on behalf of the user. |
| 18:31.16 | PITABoy_work | it has been a while since I have had time to get on |
| 18:31.24 | dcordes | Kevin2: is therea a way to work around? |
| 18:31.54 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Try the first vfh and then the second vfh. My guess is it will cause the screen to go white faster than the 10 seconds. |
| 18:32.14 | PITABoy_work | dcordes do you know the currrent progress of linux on the titan? |
| 18:32.24 | dcordes | Kevin2: what do you mean? Simply retry now? |
| 18:32.59 | dcordes | Kevin2: between: all vfh thinks make my panel drop from the top of the screen to the bottom |
| 18:33.10 | dcordes | PITABoy_work: I have the kaiser and there is no usable result yet. |
| 18:33.18 | PITABoy_work | oh |
| 18:33.27 | Kevin2 | Run "VFH 0x51a00000 76800 0xffff" followed immediately by "VFH 0x51b00000 10 0". |
| 18:33.39 | dcordes | PITABoy_work: I'm the guy who made kaiser page on your wiki ;) |
| 18:33.40 | PITABoy_work | has the kernel booted yet? |
| 18:33.53 | dcordes | not that I see. There is possibly framebuffer problem |
| 18:33.59 | dcordes | Kevin2: in a new session? |
| 18:34.15 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Doesn't matter. |
| 18:35.43 | dcordes | Kevin2: ok I first hit VFH 0x51a00000 76800 0xffff > nothing. then one scond after I put VFH 0x51b00000 10 > screen immedeately turns white entirely |
| 18:36.15 | Kevin2 | Okay. That is what I expected. |
| 18:36.38 | Kevin2 | What this means, in a nutshell, is that I don't think the vsfb driver will work for you. |
| 18:37.04 | Kevin2 | You don't have a standard frame buffer - so the Very Simple FrameBuffer isn't going to work. |
| 18:37.05 | dcordes | downer |
| 18:37.22 | dcordes | so one has to create a complete new display driver for kaiser? |
| 18:38.40 | Kevin2 | If you really want to try booting, you can run "set fbduringboot 0" in haret. The boot will continue - but since it wont give any FB feedback, I doubt you'll get much further. |
| 18:38.56 | dcordes | yea |
| 18:39.20 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Yeah - someone is going to need to write a video driver for the msm chip. |
| 18:39.27 | dcordes | I will add up the line in the bootscript quick to see what happens |
| 18:39.30 | Kevin2 | Was there one in the google source? |
| 18:39.55 | dcordes | Kevin2: don't know but I have a local clone- how canI find out? linux/drivers/video? |
| 18:40.08 | dcordes | Is that driver machine or chipset specific? |
| 18:40.36 | Kevin2 | dcordes: I don't know. I haven't looked through the google stuff at all. |
| 18:43.43 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Hrmm. Give me a second - lets try if we can get haret to fake wince out.. |
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| 18:44.56 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, sorry I got disconnected |
| 18:50.21 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Try http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071201-msm.exe |
| 18:50.50 | Kevin2 | Run the "boot" command -- do not run the fbdisable stuff. |
| 18:51.57 | dcordes_ | so I don't use the default.txt script but just hit "boot zImage" in haretconsole? |
| 18:52.28 | Kevin2 | Use your original default.txt file. |
| 18:53.27 | dcordes_ | oh no I hate fat16 |
| 18:57.05 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, "Can't handle trampoline spanning page boundary (0002BF78 2602bf78 2602c000) |
| 18:58.14 | dcordes_ | Can't handle trampoline spanning page boundary (0002BF78 2602bf78 2602c000) |
| 18:58.28 | dcordes_ | that's copied from haretconsole |
| 18:58.54 | dcordes_ | I booted with "set MTYPE 1553; set KERNEL zImage; set CMDLINE console=tty0; bootlinux" |
| 18:59.28 | dcordes_ | PITABoy_work, did you guys have any success with titan? |
| 19:01.40 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Heh - long running bug first exposed - can you try: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071201-msm2.exe |
| 19:02.31 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, ^^ is there a way to get smb to wm6? |
| 19:02.49 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Not that I know of. |
| 19:03.10 | dcordes_ | I mean client side only |
| 19:05.13 | dcordes_ | micro sd fiddling is a pain |
| 19:06.34 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, Go Go Go... |
| 19:06.39 | dcordes_ | :( |
| 19:06.50 | dcordes_ | lockup |
| 19:07.37 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, should the screen blacken immedeately after go go go? |
| 19:07.48 | dcordes_ | I just get the old frozen screen |
| 19:10.04 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: I was hoping you'd get a black screen.. |
| 19:10.56 | dcordes_ | I will retry from console |
| 19:10.59 | dcordes_ | maybe I get some output |
| 19:12.48 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, why can we access the fb when we hit that vfh command, but not when booting? |
| 19:13.07 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, http://pastebin.com/mc6cd448 |
| 19:13.14 | Kevin2 | Can you try with http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071201-msm3.exe |
| 19:13.35 | dcordes_ | in an instance |
| 19:14.34 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: The framebuffer writes are being assisted by wince. When we go to boot, we are shutting down wince - thus the writes to the framebuffer during boot don't do anything because wince is no longer around to help them. |
| 19:15.02 | dcordes_ | I see |
| 19:16.58 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, no change except of the Go Go Go not appearing anymore |
| 19:17.38 | dcordes_ | I wonder if it might be my kernel |
| 19:17.48 | dcordes_ | and not any haret/wince related problem |
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| 19:20.08 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: That's odd - you didn't get "Go Go Go"? Can you retry just to verify? |
| 19:20.36 | dcordes_ | yep no go go go - of course, second |
| 19:21.00 | dcordes_ | I will console boot |
| 19:21.09 | dcordes_ | so you have the no go go go in detail ^^ |
| 19:22.13 | dcordes_ | no I have one go go go |
| 19:23.01 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, how odd: I can regard a different change: Now the statusbar disappears |
| 19:23.39 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, http://pastebin.com/m5e8b32cb |
| 19:23.51 | dcordes_ | stausbar comes.. reaches finish, |
| 19:24.00 | dcordes_ | then Go Go Go appears and statusbar disappears |
| 19:24.28 | dcordes_ | =>lockup |
| 19:28.21 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, cooking on #4 ? |
| 19:28.39 | Kevin2 | You can try http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071201-msm4.exe -- but we're grasping at straws - I don't think it will work. |
| 19:31.59 | dcordes_ | no luck |
| 19:34.17 | dcordes_ | no visible difference from attempt #3 |
| 19:35.39 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Okay. I don't think there is much I can do. I think a real video driver is going to need to be written for the device. |
| 19:37.06 | dcordes_ | that's a real downer :( I don't think something will come from google there |
| 19:37.57 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, is it a driver which has to be written for the exact device or is that a chipset related thing? |
| 19:38.30 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: I don't know. |
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| 19:39.10 | dcordes_ | I guess somebody who wants to write a driver for the device, needs to have one, right? |
| 19:40.17 | dcordes_ | maybe swetland can help. But I fear he's not 'allowed' to |
| 19:40.38 | BabelO | hello goxboxlive :) |
| 19:40.56 | dcordes_ | at least that's what he said once in this chan |
| 19:41.05 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, thank you very much for the attention for now |
| 19:41.52 | Kevin2 | np |
| 19:44.40 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, what's the conclusion I can take from the attempts? Kaiser has a framebuffer which can not be used by vsfb? |
| 19:47.10 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: Yes. The Kaiser fb (at least as configured by wince) is not a standard frame buffer. |
| 19:48.20 | dcordes_ | Hm. How would one go about making a driver if it is not possible to boot anything? |
| 19:49.14 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 19:49.38 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: We can boot - just run "set fbduringboot 0" prior to running "boot". You just wont get anywhere without some kind of feedback. |
| 19:50.03 | dcordes_ | wouldn't it be possible to listen for some sort of connection automagic? |
| 19:52.02 | dcordes_ | I booted now with "set fbduringboot 0" |
| 19:52.21 | dcordes_ | I will try hook up with usb |
| 19:52.29 | dcordes_ | see what my host says |
| 19:53.04 | dcordes_ | hm nothing |
| 19:54.33 | dcordes_ | how about building simple usb net functionallity into the kernel? |
| 19:58.40 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i'm back. |
| 20:00.28 | Kevin2 | Hi cr2_. It looks like Kaiser doesn't have a standard framebuffer. |
| 20:06.41 | cr2_ | it is problematic to boot on a device where you relocate the kernel into such framebuffer area anyway. |
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| 20:09.46 | cr2_ | Kevin2: how many patches do you need to boot starting from the 2.6.24 kernel on apache ? |
| 20:15.49 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Mainline 2.6.24? |
| 20:17.22 | cr2_ | yes |
| 20:17.33 | goxboxlive | cr2_: busy? |
| 20:17.52 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i'm a bit lost now about the kernel status. |
| 20:17.57 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: not really |
| 20:18.27 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Hrmm. I don't know. Just to boot I don't know of any. To get full functionality, I need the pda power stuff, the adc stuff, the htc-egpio driver, the htc-bbkeys driver, the pxa27x usb stuff... |
| 20:18.49 | goxboxlive | cr2_: lets make a mux for A780 in Qtopia then. You write code i compile and test :-) |
| 20:21.04 | goxboxlive | cr2_: it would have been cool to have the phone working in QTopia before they have it working with gsmd :-) |
| 20:27.13 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Howdy, thanks for the replies on the list and to my personal mail. (-: |
| 20:29.09 | goxboxlive | welcome, i am about to make a openmoko image now. It will be a exe file and a tar.bz2 file. PLace both of them on the root of your sdcard (fat partition) and run the exe file. |
| 20:29.53 | goxboxlive | It will create a 100MB image file. The install process will take some time, but next time you boot it will boot a lot faster. |
| 20:29.57 | paulproteus | Okay. Is there any hope of fixing the hard reset to Windows issue? |
| 20:30.35 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: no i dont think so. I dont think that could be done. |
| 20:31.04 | Kevin2 | bbl |
| 20:31.27 | goxboxlive | It has something to do with wince running from ram or something. I think there are other people here who can answer that better than me |
| 20:31.49 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: there are people that can do it much better than me. |
| 20:32.39 | goxboxlive | cr2_: That might be, but that doesnt matter. As long as we can meake a phone call and send a sms i doint care how it be done :-) |
| 20:32.40 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: my a780 is half-dead anyway. it loses the gsm connection very often now, and discharges the (new)battery. |
| 20:32.50 | goxboxlive | cr2_: ko |
| 20:33.06 | cr2_ | and gps does not work for a long time already. |
| 20:33.25 | cr2_ | i'm only concerned about the copilot now. |
| 20:33.39 | cr2_ | and how i can reuse it. |
| 20:33.40 | goxboxlive | cr2_: do you think it would work with openezx drivers? |
| 20:34.20 | cr2_ | don't know. openezx does not have a lot of details too. |
| 20:34.36 | cr2_ | htc phones are known much better that ezx. |
| 20:35.19 | cr2_ | i've made some work on copilot, but it's certainly not for a discussion here :) |
| 20:41.28 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 21:02.55 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, do you have any idea how to make kaiser call home after I boot? |
| 21:09.42 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: Openmoko image is up |
| 21:09.52 | goxboxlive | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/ |
| 21:10.01 | goxboxlive | phone is working, sms dont |
| 21:14.16 | dcordes_ | cr2_, is it a heavy process to make a display driver for kaiser? |
| 21:34.38 | dcordes_ | make config says VGA_CONSOLE is something virtually everyone wants |
| 21:34.43 | dcordes_ | do I also need it? |
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| 21:50.04 | Helmchen | hi |
| 21:51.22 | Helmchen | i just booted qtopia on my univeral. everything looks fine, i can move the mouse but i cant click "unlock" on the lower bar.. any hints? |
| 21:58.54 | cr2_ | dcordes_: it's irrelevant right now. |
| 21:59.14 | dcordes_ | and what about the driver? |
| 21:59.16 | cr2_ | Helmchen: do you have a sim card in the universal. does it have a pin ? |
| 21:59.32 | cr2_ | dcordes_: of course it's not an easy task. |
| 22:00.37 | dcordes_ | cr2_, I guess you would need a kaiser to make one? |
| 22:00.37 | cr2_ | dcordes_: i'm doing something for ati, which has some half-compatible code for an older version. and here you have a completely new tech. |
| 22:01.22 | cr2_ | dcordes_: yes, but i find it more important to finish the universal. and to make athena/hermes run too in the next time. |
| 22:03.31 | dcordes_ | hm ok |
| 22:03.41 | Helmchen | cr2_: yes, i have a sim card with pin |
| 22:03.48 | dcordes_ | so right now there is nothing one can do about kaiser? |
| 22:07.02 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: What do you mean by "call home"? |
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| 22:09.37 | dcordes_ | I mean like having some networking, like usbnet or wifi, make this get an ip automatic and compile an openssh-server into the image |
| 22:09.40 | _moby_wan_kenoby | hello! |
| 22:10.10 | _moby_wan_kenoby | can anybody tell me something about gprs connection using opie? |
| 22:10.24 | _moby_wan_kenoby | on htc universal |
| 22:15.52 | dcordes_ | cr2_, do you think it would be possible to access kaiser's wifi hardware? |
| 22:18.01 | Kevin2 | dcordes_: You're talking about using "jet engines" before being able to "walk". |
| 22:18.09 | Kevin2 | Does the kaiser have irda? |
| 22:18.18 | dcordes_ | don't think so |
| 22:18.32 | dcordes_ | that's a no |
| 22:19.03 | dcordes_ | bluetooth2.0 wifi usbnet |
| 22:20.48 | Kevin2 | Ughh. sometimes you can use irda as a kind of serial port. Oh well, the only hope is getting fb feedback. |
| 22:21.36 | Kevin2 | You can scour through the android source and see if there are any hints on the msm framebuffer (if indeed the kaiser is using an msm framebuffer). |
| 22:22.58 | dcordes_ | ok let me see |
| 22:25.21 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, there is /include/config/framebuffer |
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