| 00:00.35 | x_bruno | how about ssh or telnet the local host? 127.0.0.1? with putty? |
| 00:00.58 | dcordes | x_bruno, there is no ssh server on your kaiser :) |
| 00:01.24 | dcordes | would be neat though. with 2.6.24 running |
| 00:01.43 | dcordes | just try out what I said |
| 00:01.43 | x_bruno | true, got enthusiastic |
| 00:02.03 | pH5 | good night |
| 00:02.20 | dcordes | x_bruno, have to go, sorry |
| 00:02.32 | BabelO | cr2: you sent ba to pH5 ? |
| 00:02.49 | x_bruno | dcordes: thanks a lot, I will start probing |
| 00:02.52 | dcordes | cya all |
| 00:03.36 | cr2 | BabelO: yes. |
| 00:04.06 | cr2 | BabelO: 107MB snapshot |
| 00:04.30 | BabelO | cr2: yes ;) but it build very well |
| 00:04.41 | BabelO | cr2: with fic toolchain no problem |
| 00:04.45 | cr2 | BabelO: do a portable image :) i can use goxboxlive's image on athena. |
| 00:04.53 | BabelO | cr2: and on your fast computer :) |
| 00:05.12 | cr2 | i wish it can be built with thr gcc-4.2.2 |
| 00:05.37 | BabelO | cr2: why ? because of 65 bit mode ? |
| 00:05.41 | BabelO | 64* |
| 00:06.47 | cr2 | BabelO: just for fun. |
| 00:06.51 | cr2 | license=GPL |
| 00:06.51 | cr2 | alias=mmci-omap2 |
| 00:06.51 | cr2 | license=GPL |
| 00:06.51 | cr2 | description=OMAP SDIO Card driver |
| 00:06.52 | cr2 | depends= |
| 00:06.52 | cr2 | vermagic=2.6.18.1-wnc preempt mod_unload ARMv5 gcc-3.4 |
| 00:07.03 | cr2 | 2.6.18 ? |
| 00:07.11 | cr2 | SDIO ? |
| 00:07.19 | cr2 | GPL ? |
| 00:13.09 | cr2 | good night. |
| 00:13.19 | BabelO | good night |
| 00:15.53 | cr2 | BabelO: but still no syren. |
| 00:16.14 | BabelO | we have syren from vivien driver |
| 00:17.00 | cr2 | it's better to have multiple references. |
| 00:19.13 | BabelO | good night |
| 00:31.28 | Kevin2 | Hi |
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| 02:57.27 | getoo | hi guys , any of ya know when htc touch cruise will be released :) |
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| 05:34.36 | goxboxlive | good morning |
| 05:46.38 | Zoolooc_ | good morning |
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| 09:02.50 | BabelO | hi |
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| 09:19.53 | Foxdie | hi |
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| 10:23.37 | goxboxlive | hi ho |
| 10:55.21 | BabelO | goxboxlive: openmoko icon are very very big on universal :( |
| 10:55.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive: is there something to change theme ? |
| 11:05.06 | goxboxlive | BabelO: big, they are vga theme. Look at task-openmoko.bb how magican does it. Do the same for BA |
| 11:05.45 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i ve already scaled down icon for openmoko... but i test your universal image on universal and icons are very big |
| 11:06.49 | goxboxlive | Ok, I thought they where normal. Maybe try tollower the dpi settings in Xserver. |
| 11:12.07 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok i ll try, 1/4 of the screen for bottom bar is big, i ll look at that , thx |
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| 13:08.46 | Foxdie | hi goxboxlive |
| 13:09.07 | Foxdie | is there anything interesting to test today? :) |
| 13:13.32 | Foxdie | is phote / gprs / utms fully developed? <3 |
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| 13:24.41 | Jax184 | rah |
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| 13:26.05 | Jax184 | I've got a harrier to get rid of, if anyone's looking for one |
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| 13:45.32 | Jax184 | ugh, I want this thing off my desk already |
| 13:45.37 | Kevin2 | Hi goxboxlive: I've moved the rootfs scripts to http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/distrotestdrive/ -- no changes to the scripts - just a move. |
| 13:46.39 | Foxdie | Jax184: Harrier Jump Jet? |
| 13:47.16 | Jax184 | unfortunately not |
| 13:47.24 | Jax184 | HTC Harrier |
| 13:47.55 | Jax184 | though considering all the other bizzare things I've ended up with over the years, it wouldn't surprise me if I one day had a jet in my yard |
| 13:48.14 | goxboxlive | Kevin2: ok |
| 13:48.22 | Jax184 | maybe an A-37 dragonfly... |
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| 14:30.29 | dcordes | Kevin2: hi. You around? |
| 14:31.28 | Foxdie | hmm |
| 14:31.40 | Foxdie | I try x11 angrstrom ROM, touch screen doesn't work |
| 14:32.10 | dcordes | did you calibrate? |
| 14:32.34 | Foxdie | Calibration screen didn't even come up |
| 14:32.48 | Foxdie | And WiFi was definately disabled in WinCE before running haret |
| 14:35.27 | dcordes | ~seen Kevin2 |
| 14:35.29 | apt | kevin2 is currently on #htc-linux. Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 49m 52s, last said: 'Hi goxboxlive: I've moved the rootfs scripts to http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/distrotestdrive/ -- no changes to the scripts - just a move.'. |
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| 14:40.49 | Foxdie | silly question, the ramdisk image, is it possible to make changes to it? |
| 14:41.09 | Foxdie | I want to have /mnt/vfat and /mnt/ext3 already created and mounted (if possible) on bootup |
| 14:45.26 | cr2 | Foxdie: gzip -d ; mount -o loop |
| 14:47.03 | Foxdie | thanks |
| 14:47.22 | Foxdie | cr2, don't suppose you know why TS doesn't work on angrstrom X11 image do you? |
| 14:47.41 | Foxdie | I disabled WiFi prior to booting it, and when I did for the first time I didn't see a calibration screen |
| 14:49.06 | cr2 | something is messing the asic3 gpio, so the ts irq does not come through. i was suspecting the brightness sensor, but it's not 100% clear what's going on. |
| 14:49.48 | cr2 | i don't know why it's related to wifi. |
| 14:56.15 | Foxdie | how can we trace it down? |
| 14:56.34 | Foxdie | also, has linload.exe superceeded haret.exe ? |
| 14:56.53 | Foxdie | oh, linload IS haret |
| 14:58.43 | Foxdie | and now I've just confused the crap out of myself |
| 14:59.00 | Foxdie | must be different version of haret fixes touchscreen |
| 15:07.59 | Foxdie | okay, so I'm in the angstrom x11 rom now |
| 15:08.04 | Foxdie | TS is working |
| 15:08.11 | Foxdie | (just needed different version of Haret) |
| 15:08.42 | Foxdie | I try and launch dialler and it doesn't work, so I launch in terminal and it says something like "failed to make a connection to the session bus" |
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| 15:27.32 | cr2 | cu -l /dev/ttyS0 -s 115200 ? |
| 15:36.13 | Foxdie | hmm |
| 15:36.23 | Foxdie | cu isn't installed on the angstrom x11 rom |
| 15:36.40 | BabelO | ~wtf cli |
| 15:36.53 | BabelO | apt: what do you know ? |
| 15:36.54 | apt | ACTION do you know to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 15:37.06 | Foxdie | wtf? |
| 15:37.12 | Foxdie | apt talks bollocks? |
| 15:37.19 | BabelO | ~wtf iirc |
| 15:37.28 | BabelO | Foxdie: hello :) |
| 15:37.31 | Foxdie | hi BabelO :) |
| 15:38.04 | Foxdie | cr2: where can I obtain cu for the angstrom x11 rom? (and can I recommend it gets published with it in future? ^^) |
| 15:39.51 | BabelO | Foxdie: you can try cu or minicom |
| 15:40.01 | BabelO | Foxdie: ipkg update |
| 15:40.07 | BabelO | ipkg install cu |
| 15:40.24 | Foxdie | and that requires an internet connection right? |
| 15:42.30 | cr2 | Foxdie: grab the uucp package at angstrom. i don't know if cu is a separate package now. |
| 15:43.02 | cr2 | BabelO: the dvb-t stick is supported by linux. even in the usb1.1 mode :) |
| 15:44.03 | Foxdie | well, how to install when I don't have an internet connection? :) |
| 15:48.57 | cr2 | BabelO: a nice idea for qtopia here -> http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn12970-cellphones-slosh-and-rattle-reveal-its-contents.html |
| 15:49.22 | cr2 | Foxdie: put it on the sd. |
| 15:50.11 | cr2 | BabelO: but i guess you need an accelerometer for this. athena? |
| 15:51.26 | BabelO | cr2: so you can watch tv on athena then, you need mplayer for arm and all look fine, not sure about processor speed |
| 15:53.20 | BabelO | cr2: wouah, but i think it is not an accelerometer, look like more a gyroscope |
| 15:53.38 | BabelO | cr2: it can handle 3d direction |
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| 15:56.27 | cr2 | BabelO: i don't know if it sends raw frames or mpeg2. |
| 15:56.56 | cr2 | 624MHz should be enough, i'm more worried about 1.1 |
| 15:57.17 | cr2 | the windows software was unhappy on 1.1 |
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| 15:59.22 | BabelO | hey goxboxlive -> http://www.usbwine.com |
| 16:00.11 | cr2 | BabelO: not linux-compatible ? |
| 16:01.48 | BabelO | cr2: usb key send raw frame, all is done in software, i try one at home and it seem it work on old usb for not HD channel |
| 16:03.29 | cr2 | we don't have HD. |
| 16:04.05 | cr2 | in such a mountanous region you are happy when the normal signal is there ;) |
| 16:04.15 | BabelO | cr2: really ? germany DVB-t coverage seem to be better than french one |
| 16:04.25 | cr2 | but since i don't watch tv, it does not matter. |
| 16:04.34 | cr2 | DVB-T, but not HD. |
| 16:05.06 | BabelO | cr2: ah i mean DVB-T HD, it seem i have some test channel here |
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| 16:05.53 | cr2 | yes, but it's a normal 576 line broadcast. |
| 16:06.16 | cr2 | it looks better because of mpeg2 transmitted, not analog. |
| 16:07.19 | BabelO | cr2: yes agree |
| 16:07.50 | BabelO | cr2: on analog it is something like 476 - teletext - test lines |
| 16:08.59 | cr2 | i think it's the same line count. |
| 16:09.18 | cr2 | 576=625-teletext-i forgot what :) |
| 16:10.53 | BabelO | cr2: remaining line are test line blank - black -blank ;) and reserved for furtur used lol |
| 16:11.27 | BabelO | cr2: sxe on greenphone is not so nice ... :( |
| 16:16.46 | Foxdie | yo goxboxlive |
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| 16:27.19 | cr2 | BabelO: what's sxe ? |
| 16:31.33 | BabelO | cr2: sxe is the security layer of qtopia ... |
| 16:33.48 | goxboxlive | BabelO: security for what? |
| 16:38.18 | cr2 | goxboxlive: qtopia is certainly not a security champion, running as root. |
| 16:39.00 | Foxdie | woo got wireless working |
| 16:39.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: When they store passwords for mail account they store it under the home folder as text :-) |
| 16:43.55 | Foxdie | hmm, why in angstrom x11 image is everything so big? |
| 16:47.59 | Foxdie | ie scroll bars are huge |
| 16:51.53 | BabelO | goxboxlive: security to allow only executable signed program to run |
| 16:51.59 | BabelO | goxboxlive: something like that |
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| 18:09.53 | cr2 | goxboxlive: have you compiled the latest qtopia snapshot ? |
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| 18:36.59 | goxboxlive | cr2: no not since 25th i think. There hasent been that much changes in the osurce i think. Why do you ask? |
| 18:57.18 | dcordes | cr2: ping |
| 18:57.59 | dcordes | cr2: did you see about my kernel loading problem in haret with kaiser? |
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| 19:00.14 | dcordes | hi BabelO |
| 19:00.24 | BabelO | hello dcordes |
| 19:00.47 | dcordes | got your wifi phone yet? |
| 19:01.15 | BabelO | dcordes: no , i did not buy it, i ve already that and it look better |
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| 19:17.40 | dcordes | BabelO: looks like a nice device. Which operate system does it run? |
| 19:17.49 | BabelO | dcordes: linux |
| 19:18.10 | dcordes | do you know what's the screen's resolution? |
| 19:18.41 | BabelO | it is in spec i think 240x320 |
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| 19:28.11 | dcordes | pH5: hi |
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| 19:37.00 | pH5 | hi |
| 19:38.05 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 19:49.41 | cr2 | BabelO: you have this omap730 phone ? |
| 19:51.18 | BabelO | cr2: no no my artemis or ba is better than this omap730 phone :) |
| 19:53.12 | cr2 | BabelO: it may be helpful to get the modules. |
| 19:58.49 | cr2 | the first megabyte on kaiser is fb and random junk, the second is dmesg, the third is random junk, the fourth is wince nk.exe |
| 20:06.16 | dcordes | cr2: do you have an idea about the haret boting error get? ph5 suspects taking over command to fail |
| 20:06.30 | dcordes | screen hangs on go go go... |
| 20:06.50 | BabelO | cr2: let me until friday to finish my app for gp and i go back to artemis :) |
| 20:08.28 | cr2 | dcordes: do you see trash on the LCD after gogogo ? |
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| 20:09.38 | dcordes | cr2: no it just freezes with haret loading bar finished and gogogo |
| 20:10.12 | cr2 | dcordes: this is strange. |
| 20:10.19 | dcordes | pH5 told me to check out framebuffer commands in haret |
| 20:10.31 | dcordes | it painted screen white |
| 20:10.34 | pH5 | cr2: it freezes somewhere take_control(), before blacking the screen |
| 20:10.49 | dcordes | after that he told me fb is ok w haret |
| 20:10.58 | pH5 | take_control() only touches some pages that are needed and disables IRQs. |
| 20:12.52 | dcordes | so it's a different thing? |
| 20:13.02 | cr2 | hmm. arm9 may be unhappy that we killed wince, but the communication happens over SRAM... |
| 20:14.20 | cr2 | pH5: the omap_sdio looks simple and clean to me. |
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| 20:17.33 | dcordes | cr2: have an idea what to try? |
| 20:18.09 | gauss-gs | hi all |
| 20:19.02 | gauss-gs | is anyone working on HTC Artemis linux port? |
| 20:19.23 | gauss-gs | (sorry for my bad english....) |
| 20:20.00 | gauss-gs | i doesn't found it at handhelds.org wiki... |
| 20:20.01 | BabelO | gauss-gs: next week maybe ;) after ten beer, lol |
| 20:20.04 | gauss-gs | =) |
| 20:20.30 | BabelO | pH5: any luck with herald ? |
| 20:20.47 | BabelO | pH5: tell me when you can look at blueangel ds1wm |
| 20:22.00 | pH5 | BabelO: I'm still busily rev-engineering the bootloader. Currently I try to have it at least scan my microsd for the heradiag.nbh or heraimg.nbh files, but somehow it breaks out of the CheckSecureHeader() function somewhere all the time. |
| 20:23.04 | BabelO | pH5: ok |
| 20:23.44 | pH5 | BabelO: cr2 offered to lend me his BA, I'll look at its ds1wm when I get my hands on it. |
| 20:24.42 | BabelO | pH5: ok thx, i think you can see some issue on touchscreen too since it is part of adc api |
| 20:25.08 | cr2 | pH5: it's on its way. |
| 20:25.20 | dcordes | I need bigger kaiser lobby :D |
| 20:25.43 | cr2 | pH5: what's about i2c cpld ? |
| 20:26.05 | pH5 | cr2: cool. deutsche post? |
| 20:26.30 | cr2 | dcordes: it's a difficult task. |
| 20:26.35 | cr2 | pH5: yes. |
| 20:26.37 | pH5 | cr2: after I figured out the bootloader diag card loading. |
| 20:26.58 | cr2 | pH5: you can create nbh ? |
| 20:27.02 | gauss-gs | BabelO: what are working on your port for now? |
| 20:27.17 | cr2 | the xda-dev people create their updates somehow. |
| 20:27.23 | pH5 | cr2: ok, so I'll have to ask them tomorrow or friday. I've had cases of them forgetting to put in a message when I was absent during delivery. |
| 20:28.19 | BabelO | gauss-gs: just boot |
| 20:28.40 | dcordes | cr2: I heard only Kevin2 has power to achieve it ^^ |
| 20:28.41 | cr2 | pH5: usually i have another problem that the put a message even without ringing. |
| 20:29.20 | cr2 | dcordes: it's just a complex and time-consuming job. |
| 20:29.38 | gauss-gs | BabelO: hmm i have successfully booted kernel from HTC Wizard (linwizard) |
| 20:29.52 | cr2 | dcordes: look at the ยง$%&/ omap phones. |
| 20:30.22 | dcordes | yes I notice they are time intensive |
| 20:30.29 | BabelO | gauss-gs: yes i know it boot well |
| 20:30.36 | cr2 | they are running linux, but there is no source code for useful parts. |
| 20:30.56 | dcordes | is artemis omap? |
| 20:31.01 | gauss-gs | yeah |
| 20:31.03 | gauss-gs | OMAP850 |
| 20:31.04 | cr2 | yes |
| 20:31.39 | cr2 | dcordes: i guess it'll be the same with msm7x00. |
| 20:31.46 | gauss-gs | maybe i can help? |
| 20:31.48 | dcordes | If somebody wants me to try a kernel on prophet its's no problem |
| 20:32.13 | cr2 | dcordes: for prophet we need this infamous i2c-cpld |
| 20:32.29 | cr2 | otherwise you can#t set many important gpios. |
| 20:32.38 | dcordes | heard this in connection with other mach |
| 20:33.08 | dcordes | don't you work on it for hermes too? |
| 20:33.08 | cr2 | not really. artemis is omap850, but it uses a "normal" cpld. |
| 20:33.26 | cr2 | no, hermes is ok. |
| 20:34.44 | cr2 | pH5: i've also sent you the spare battery. "made in china", so i've cracked it open :) didn't find the ds2760 though ;) |
| 20:35.18 | dcordes | cr2: what about ati on hermes? |
| 20:35.18 | cr2 | the original htc battery is ok. |
| 20:35.57 | pH5 | I really like about the herald that it works without battery at all. |
| 20:36.47 | pH5 | as compared to the neo1973 gta01b4, which produces sounds that make you expect exploding capacitors when you remove the battery while plugged into usb |
| 20:37.02 | cr2 | dcordes: ATI is ati-init/resume, ati-fb, ati-sd, ati-i2s and ati-cif. i've done 90% of ati-init, and working on ati-sd. ati-fb will probably stay as it is with ati-init |
| 20:37.17 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:47.40 | dcordes | i see |
| 21:52.56 | wireddd | I wish someone could get something useful on the wizard |
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| 22:12.17 | dcordes | hi Zoolooc |
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| 22:50.23 | Zoolooc | hi dcordes, any good news? |
| 22:50.46 | dcordes | Zoolooc unfortunately not |
| 22:51.59 | dcordes | looks like we are waiting for Kevin2 (according to pH5 he's the only one to help in current situation) |
| 22:52.33 | dcordes | with pH5's help I added up new mach type for kaiser and support for very simple frame buffer and he did some other changes |
| 22:53.08 | dcordes | when I try to boot, the screen just freezes and nobody can tell why because there is no boot messages/logs or anything |
| 23:00.36 | Zoolooc | dcordes: anyway, it's good that something has been started already. make sure you won#t lose those changes, as they have to be adapted later to the "official" msm cchanges as they get adopted in mainline kernel... |
| 23:01.32 | Zoolooc | sorry I can't be of help these days, but I'm quite busy (tonight I stayed until 21:50 at work) |
| 23:01.49 | Zoolooc | will go to bed now, bye & keep up the good work |
| 23:06.46 | dcordes | Zoolooc: that's long. Changes are kept in my local msm tree |
| 23:06.54 | dcordes | I think pH5 also has them |