| 00:00.33 | x_bruno | for safety reasons, I would always keep it there until there is a stable enough version |
| 00:02.15 | dcordes | x_bruno: right |
| 00:02.58 | dcordes | man you can evin alter file attributes with total |
| 00:03.49 | dcordes | x_bruno: BabelO do you know a tool for network analysis? I can't even ping ssh host |
| 00:04.37 | BabelO | dcordes: what is yyour local network subnet ? |
| 00:04.46 | x_bruno | how are you connected to it? wirelessly or ethernet? are you using the phone? |
| 00:04.52 | dcordes | remote |
| 00:04.54 | dcordes | edge |
| 00:05.10 | dcordes | and I would like to see if I can ping it |
| 00:05.18 | x_bruno | do you have the specific IP address? |
| 00:05.27 | dcordes | of course |
| 00:05.54 | x_bruno | then using putty should easily do it unless you have a proxy setup |
| 00:07.17 | x_bruno | there is network analyzer powertoy |
| 00:07.27 | dcordes | man |
| 00:07.40 | x_bruno | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=081c6401-49d4-4506-a03b-c41bc76c2f51&displaylang=en |
| 00:07.50 | dcordes | I always get error can't open connection to and then there is only BOXES but not the hostname I specified |
| 00:09.27 | x_bruno | try the download |
| 00:11.17 | dcordes | yep I also try a different version of pocketputty |
| 00:11.32 | dcordes | x_bruno: it's good to see a third tytnII user here between |
| 00:12.01 | x_bruno | Oh yeah, and I am very much over and done with wm |
| 00:12.52 | x_bruno | dcordes: my new job is making linux drivers |
| 00:13.00 | dcordes | that's great |
| 00:13.22 | x_bruno | so I hope to be helpful porting linux for the tytnII |
| 00:13.23 | CubaCola | it IS ! |
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| 00:14.59 | dcordes | I had the most obsolete version of pocketputty available.. |
| 00:15.26 | x_bruno | ah |
| 00:15.39 | x_bruno | is it working now_ |
| 00:15.45 | dcordes | trying |
| 00:16.11 | x_bruno | a usefull tool to install on the client would be midnight commander |
| 00:16.24 | dcordes | is it normal that the window disappears first after you click connect? |
| 00:16.29 | x_bruno | yes |
| 00:16.41 | x_bruno | you should get then a black screen |
| 00:17.02 | x_bruno | touch the screen to see if it reacts |
| 00:18.00 | x_bruno | should also prompt for the username/password |
| 00:19.36 | dcordes | it is disappears (obviously working), then says can't open connection to (blbla) and then socket error |
| 00:19.43 | x_bruno | ah |
| 00:19.58 | x_bruno | then you are definitely getting connection issues |
| 00:20.16 | x_bruno | can you normally ssh externally? |
| 00:20.31 | dcordes | yes |
| 00:20.52 | dcordes | nevermind it's late here |
| 00:20.55 | dcordes | time for some sleep |
| 00:20.57 | dcordes | gnite all |
| 00:21.05 | dcordes | x_bruno: hope we see you again ;) |
| 00:21.08 | x_bruno | see ya |
| 00:21.12 | x_bruno | I will be around |
| 00:21.17 | x_bruno | before you go |
| 00:21.24 | steve_ | Hi. I'm a GSM engineer (http://wiki.thc.org/gsm). I would like to help to use the HTC to access the OMAP850 gsm baseband. Who knows about it? |
| 00:21.24 | dcordes | yep |
| 00:21.41 | dcordes | it's getting better and better today ^^ |
| 00:21.50 | x_bruno | go to settings-connections-connections |
| 00:22.22 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:22.25 | x_bruno | click on setup my proxy server |
| 00:22.32 | x_bruno | just to check if there is nothing in there |
| 00:22.57 | dcordes | hm nothing |
| 00:23.03 | x_bruno | then there is no proxy |
| 00:23.05 | dcordes | thanks again |
| 00:23.14 | x_bruno | sorry couldn't help you there |
| 00:23.16 | x_bruno | another day |
| 00:24.39 | x_bruno | steve_: did you check the link about? |
| 00:24.52 | x_bruno | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.06 | x_bruno | *above |
| 00:27.01 | steve_ | x_bruno. ov course. |
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| 00:29.30 | CubaCola | ++ |
| 00:32.17 | x_bruno | http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=summary |
| 00:32.24 | cr2 | steve_: http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/gsm.html |
| 00:32.37 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 00:32.47 | cr2 | hi Kevin2 |
| 00:32.53 | Kevin2 | Hi cr2 |
| 00:32.55 | cr2 | i've just wanted to go to bed :) |
| 00:33.05 | cr2 | got something new ? |
| 00:33.44 | Kevin2 | Nah. I got partly through a new spi keyboard driver, but I still have to configure and test it. |
| 00:34.01 | x_bruno | steve_ :http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=summary |
| 00:35.00 | Kevin2 | steve_: That is pretty hard core. We've mostly been working with trying to get linux running on the main processor. I don't think anyone has looked at the DSP or radio stuff. |
| 00:35.34 | Kevin2 | J4k3: Have you tried booting linux on the apache? |
| 00:36.14 | steve_ | thanks guys. I only just started looking into HTC. I'll check out the links and get myself started. |
| 00:37.01 | BabelO | steve_: if you need information :) cdma is missing on your wiki |
| 00:37.07 | J4k3 | Kevin2: not yet. I hear its pretty limited at this point and I've got about 3 other irons in the fire at this point. |
| 00:37.07 | cr2 | Kevin2: that's good. i was running vsfb for an hour an athena, and there is no watchdog. it's the linux console code that blackens the LCD. |
| 00:38.12 | cr2 | steve_: the typhoon gsm code is not that bad in its functionality and code comments, but is extremely hackish. |
| 00:39.12 | steve_ | cr2, i'll check it out. the readme says 'communicate with gsm stack' but the example only show AT commands. I've to see if i can receive GSM frames via that interface as well. The omap850 uses SPI. |
| 00:39.13 | Kevin2 | cr2: I figured it was the linux code blanking my hermes screen. I don't know how to unblank it, except from keyboard, however. |
| 00:39.17 | J4k3 | Kevin2: heck, I took a week to get my bootloader fixed... got screwed by the verizon aku3.3 |
| 00:39.47 | cr2 | J4k3: you can fix mdoc over jtag ? |
| 00:40.22 | cr2 | steve_: grab the module code from git repo. |
| 00:42.35 | cr2 | steve_: i've gathered the omap850 register data here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=OMAP850_Registers |
| 00:44.00 | steve_ | cr2, thanks. If you need any kind of documentation I might be able to get them from TI. let me know. |
| 00:45.38 | cr2 | ok. now it's really too late. good night. |
| 00:46.17 | Kevin2 | cr2: Good night. |
| 00:48.22 | steve_ | what is 'git repo'? where is it? |
| 00:48.40 | BabelO | steve_: it is a repo like cvs or svn |
| 00:48.54 | steve_ | yes, but where is it? cr2: steve grab the module code from git repo. |
| 00:48.58 | BabelO | steve_: you can get a package for your linux distribution |
| 00:49.12 | steve_ | http://manwe.homelinux.org/~glaurung/modules.git/ <-- looks empty to me. no source inside. |
| 00:49.16 | BabelO | steve_: ah wait i look if i ve link |
| 00:49.51 | BabelO | steve_: you need to clone it with git tools |
| 00:50.03 | BabelO | or wait i have it somewhere |
| 00:52.51 | BabelO | steve_: sorry there is no other way to look at it |
| 00:52.56 | BabelO | you have to use git clone |
| 00:56.53 | steve_ | ahh ok. |
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| 03:44.55 | getoo | is there a HTC driver that i can use with mac os x ? |
| 03:45.04 | getoo | i wanna use it as modem |
| 03:46.05 | getoo | i do have unlimited web plan :) |
| 03:47.59 | ellisway | i`ve done it in the past with a universal without needing a driver |
| 03:48.44 | ellisway | cant remember which ver of osx i no it was a ver of tiger |
| 03:49.33 | getoo | i got leopard |
| 03:49.40 | ellisway | basicly the windows driver for the htc modem is just a inf file with the modem init strings |
| 03:49.57 | getoo | oh , cool |
| 03:50.06 | ellisway | you could use the inf file as a reference to build a new modem profile |
| 03:50.26 | getoo | got it , thank you will give it a try :) |
| 03:50.41 | ellisway | only other thing is i cant remember if i done it over the usb cable or via bluetooth |
| 03:51.21 | getoo | ellisway: u are correct , i dont actually need one |
| 03:51.32 | ellisway | it definantly worked though |
| 03:51.40 | getoo | since i will use ev-do i will use the one the provider already got :) |
| 03:52.02 | getoo | in my case sprint pcs vision |
| 03:53.01 | getoo | i did it with a900 samsung , and i had to use MSL and disable nai ... is there such a thing in htc ? |
| 03:54.11 | ellisway | not sure i no when i done it before i just used 1 of the existing gsm modem profiles and changed a few bits in the profile |
| 03:54.25 | ellisway | didn`t have to do anything else |
| 03:54.34 | ellisway | on the system |
| 03:55.07 | ellisway | on the handset in the options of the wmodem ienter your providers access point name |
| 03:55.19 | getoo | k :) |
| 03:55.53 | ellisway | as for the number to dial thats somthing you will have to find out |
| 03:56.20 | ellisway | for me on tmobile in the uk its *99# for the phone number |
| 03:56.33 | getoo | mine is #777 |
| 03:56.41 | getoo | already know that :) |
| 03:56.48 | ellisway | and general.t-mobile.uk for the ap name |
| 03:57.01 | ellisway | give it a try |
| 03:57.03 | getoo | i dont use it all the time , but sometimes i have too |
| 03:57.32 | ellisway | i dont use macs much but will try and help if i can |
| 03:57.48 | getoo | ellisway: u the greatest , thank u |
| 03:57.49 | getoo | :) |
| 04:01.41 | ellisway | np |
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| 04:13.10 | Volure | hello. |
| 04:13.23 | Volure | I want to get linux on my HTC Hermes |
| 04:13.36 | Volure | Anyone know where I can find some good info on it |
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| 04:22.36 | ImCoKeMaN | so did i miss anything on the titan/linux progress? |
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| 05:29.34 | goxboxlive | good morning |
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| 06:15.14 | Zoolooc | good morning |
| 06:15.31 | Volure | anyone got a good howto on linux for the Hermes ? |
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| 11:19.48 | kiozen | cr2 ? |
| 11:21.06 | kiozen | cr2: how good are the chances to get the GPS up and running on the n560, now? |
| 11:22.29 | kiozen | or is it too early for that? |
| 11:26.05 | cr2 | hi kiozen |
| 11:26.23 | cr2 | i'm still trying to put all the data together. |
| 11:27.08 | cr2 | if we will not have substantial progress in December, i think you should send it to me. |
| 11:29.29 | cr2 | but i hope it will be not necessary. |
| 11:40.27 | goxboxlive | cr2: |
| 11:40.43 | goxboxlive | log from xda forum |
| 11:40.45 | goxboxlive | Originally Posted by nittin_sp |
| 11:40.45 | goxboxlive | Hey Bro Mamaichs I have done it my uni now has 128 mb ram successfully |
| 11:40.45 | goxboxlive | It Works Better than my ATHENA AND even outruns Kaiser |
| 11:40.45 | goxboxlive | GREAT DEVICE |
| 11:40.45 | goxboxlive | Many Thanks to Mamaichs , Asukal And hdubli |
| 11:40.46 | goxboxlive | here are some snapshots |
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| 11:49.49 | Scruffy2 | hi all |
| 11:49.50 | Scruffy2 | :) |
| 12:34.25 | cr2 | goxboxlive: maybe in wince. i've tried qtopia on athena, it's unbelievable fast, even without 2D accel. |
| 12:34.59 | cr2 | goxboxlive: Kaiser is strange, because it uses SDRAM for the framebuffer. |
| 12:43.34 | Scruffy2 | anyone can tell me somethink about a qtek 9090 and opie 2? |
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| 12:51.20 | kiozen | cr2: if I understand you right, the gps is controled by the same egpio device like the other component making it hard to swicth it into funtional mode. right? |
| 12:52.07 | kiozen | I guess same applies to bluetooth. |
| 12:53.38 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, at least some gpios are on the cpld. |
| 12:56.27 | kiozen | cr2: ok, so I will have to move the gps part in the future for my moving map app |
| 12:57.21 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes, but he was talking about the home upgraded 128MB universal. |
| 13:06.52 | cr2 | kiozen: i think that gps will be easy. i'm more concerned about the intermittant problems like SD boot failure. |
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| 14:16.33 | Hoots | hallo |
| 14:20.06 | Hoots | cr2 sorry but, a few weak ago you gave me some links, for BA , may you give it again? |
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| 14:37.25 | Hoots | ? |
| 14:49.53 | cr2 | Hoots: i think that the most useful link is http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa |
| 14:51.58 | Hoots | <cr2> yep, I saw that. Gpephone? right? |
| 14:55.21 | Hoots | or OPIE II ? |
| 15:03.31 | cr2 | Hoots: qtopia works, but the phone support is broken there. i don't know about the others, you'd better ask BabelO |
| 15:05.38 | Hoots | ok |
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| 15:51.03 | dcordes_ | hi |
| 15:53.00 | dcordes_ | could somebody help me make vsfb in kaiser kernel load earlier? |
| 15:53.38 | dcordes_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.45 | dcordes_ | would that be complicated? |
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| 16:04.11 | dcordes_ | cr2: you here? |
| 16:04.59 | cods | Hi. Where I can find info about how to transfer file to/from my HTC Trinity from Linux? (Look like this channel is off-topic) |
| 16:06.35 | dcordes_ | cods: have a look at wiki.xda-developers.com |
| 16:06.55 | dcordes_ | there is some project devoted to replace the windows mobile sync application |
| 16:07.47 | cods | dcordes_: thanks |
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| 17:42.27 | Robot_ | Hey |
| 17:43.09 | Robot_ | Anyone knows how to "mount" or take apart the wince image saved with HTC bootloader ? |
| 17:45.30 | cr2 | Robot_: it depends on the format of this image. |
| 17:48.01 | Robot_ | cr2: I was hoping that someone here would know the format :-/ |
| 17:50.04 | pH5 | Robot_: device? |
| 17:50.07 | pH5 | hi cr2 |
| 17:50.13 | Robot_ | ph5: hx4700 |
| 17:51.36 | pH5 | Robot_: that's 128M in 256k blocks, with a 412 byte header in front and 4byte footer in the end |
| 17:51.57 | pH5 | did you dump the image with s2d? |
| 17:52.03 | pH5 | without any parameters? |
| 17:52.48 | Robot_ | ph5: yup, i used the how-to in hh.or wiki. |
| 17:53.01 | Robot_ | ph5: so without parameters |
| 17:53.20 | pH5 | then it starts with the wince kernel (first 1M-256k) |
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| 17:54.39 | dcordes_ | good evening pH5 |
| 17:54.44 | pH5 | hi dcordes_ |
| 17:55.07 | Robot_ | ph5: and after the kernel, that should be the FS, right ? |
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| 17:56.27 | pH5 | after the kernel follows the rest of the osrom, I don't know much about the file system format. it is this microsoft flash filesystem thingy. |
| 17:56.44 | pH5 | But there are some imgfs tools to handle it somewhere on xda-developers.com |
| 17:56.51 | Robot_ | ph5: that's what i was afraid of |
| 17:57.24 | cr2 | pH5: imgfs is on wince5 |
| 17:57.36 | pH5 | Robot_: are you using wm2003? |
| 17:57.51 | cr2 | i think wince2003 rom can be decoded with 'dumprom' |
| 17:58.15 | cr2 | pH5: are you sure that it does not start with the bootloader ? |
| 17:58.19 | pH5 | cr2: true, the osrom part. on wince2003 there follows the extrom afterwards, which is just a fat file system. |
| 17:58.46 | Robot_ | ph5: i think it was ppc2003 |
| 17:59.25 | pH5 | cr2: d2s on hx4700 defaults to "d2s 0x40000 0x7fc0000" |
| 18:00.15 | pH5 | at least on roadster 1.01 |
| 18:01.43 | dcordes_ | pH5: could we try the early init of vsfb thing? |
| 18:09.32 | Robot_ | ph5: does the dumprom need to be compiled with compression ? |
| 18:12.39 | pH5 | Robot_: I don't remember. I switched to wm5 as soon as it was downloadable. |
| 18:12.43 | pH5 | dcordes_: let me see.. |
| 18:12.56 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 18:17.09 | pH5 | cr2: efb_debug has 0x20000000 mapped to 0xd0000000 during early init for omap730/850. where would I be able to map 0x10000000 on msm without hurting anyone? |
| 18:18.28 | cr2 | pH5: there was something in the docs about the reserved areas. |
| 18:20.11 | cr2 | Documentation/arm/memory.txt |
| 18:25.04 | dcordes_ | pH5: can I help? |
| 18:30.11 | dcordes_ | ~seen mxtdude |
| 18:30.17 | apt | dcordes_: i haven't seen 'mxtdude' |
| 18:32.32 | pH5 | dcordes_: enable EFB_DEBUG in .config and recompile: http://en.pastebin.ca/799532 |
| 18:32.56 | pH5 | no idea whether this will work, I just kept the 0xd0000000 mapping |
| 18:33.09 | dcordes_ | I'll just try |
| 18:33.41 | dcordes_ | pH5: that's the only change you made so I can apply it with make config? |
| 18:34.19 | pH5 | dcordes_: of course you have to apply the patch I've just pointed you to first. |
| 18:34.40 | pH5 | and you should git-commit between applying different patches, this will make it easier to drop selected patches later |
| 18:34.43 | dcordes_ | oh ok |
| 18:34.50 | pH5 | "git-commit -a" |
| 18:34.53 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 18:36.04 | dcordes_ | ".git/COMMIT_EDITMSG" 31 lines, 964 characters |
| 18:36.39 | dcordes_ | pH5: ah that opens some vi when I press enter.. what to do now? |
| 18:37.02 | pH5 | dcordes_: just add a descriptive message for this change |
| 18:37.53 | pH5 | it will appear in the git log. |
| 18:37.55 | dcordes_ | hm I don't know vi. Can I just save it? |
| 18:38.08 | pH5 | dcordes_: just an example, this is the output of "git log" in my msm tree: http://en.pastebin.ca/799542 |
| 18:39.04 | pH5 | dcordes_: press "i" to get into insert mode, write some text, press ESC, |
| 18:39.10 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 18:39.19 | pH5 | press ":" to get into the command line and write "wq"+enter to save and quit |
| 18:39.40 | pH5 | you should set the EDITOR env variable to your favourite editor |
| 18:40.09 | dcordes_ | ok saved. I know vi is oldschool but I preffer nano ^^ |
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| 18:41.27 | dcordes_ | pH5: warning: squelched 396 whitespace errors; warning: 401 lines add trailing whitespaces. |
| 18:43.08 | pH5 | dcordes_: well, I couldn't be bothered cleaning up nico's code :) |
| 18:43.40 | dcordes_ | who's nico? |
| 18:44.17 | pH5 | nicolas schichan, the original author of this EFB_DEBUG code. |
| 18:44.54 | dcordes_ | ok :) I enabled EFB_DEBUG in .config |
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| 18:45.16 | BabelO | hi |
| 18:45.23 | pH5 | hej BabelO, Zoolooc |
| 18:45.25 | BabelO | pH5: very usefull anyway :) |
| 18:45.31 | dcordes_ | what about disabling unnecessary hardware? |
| 18:45.35 | Zoolooc | hey folks |
| 18:45.48 | dcordes_ | hey Zoolooc |
| 18:45.55 | pH5 | dcordes_: there is nothing left to disable :) |
| 18:45.59 | dcordes_ | good |
| 18:46.03 | dcordes_ | I will compile |
| 18:46.26 | dcordes_ | pH5: btw: shall I hit make clean before rebuilding? |
| 18:47.21 | pH5 | dcordes_: not doing that will save you some time ;) |
| 18:48.41 | dcordes_ | http://pastebin.ca/799550 that's how I boot- everything ok with it? |
| 18:54.47 | dcordes_ | pH5: Hm no change :( |
| 18:56.21 | pH5 | is "boot" the same as "bootlinux"? also, I use "set CMDLINE console=tty0", but if you don't even see the early debug code painting to your screen, it won't matter anyway. |
| 18:57.10 | dcordes_ | no the screen just freezes but I will try that |
| 18:57.18 | pH5 | yes, it is the same. |
| 18:59.46 | pH5 | dcordes_: what is the last thing you see on the screen? |
| 19:00.07 | dcordes_ | pH5: the process bar which reaches its end and Go Go Go... |
| 19:00.50 | pH5 | dcordes_: that means it is hanging in haret |
| 19:01.31 | pH5 | after "go go go" it should disable interrupts in take_control() and the next thing that should happen is a fb_clear, which would turn the screen black. |
| 19:01.48 | Zoolooc | dcordes_: you'll be the Linux-on-Kaiser pioneer ;) |
| 19:02.38 | pH5 | dcordes_: maybe disabling interrupts doesn't work as easily on kaiser. or maybe haret just doesn't have the correct frame buffer information. |
| 19:03.01 | pH5 | that is Kevin2's area of expertise |
| 19:03.10 | dcordes_ | pH5: I changed the bootfile. still the same |
| 19:04.08 | dcordes_ | pH5: possibly because of the topoly display which is new(?) to htcs? |
| 19:09.20 | pH5 | dcordes_: other devices have a reset button. |
| 19:10.22 | dcordes_ | pH5: kaiser also has a power off button which has no function on locup.. |
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| 19:20.04 | BabelO | hello TimRiker |
| 19:23.24 | dcordes_ | pH5: I have to wait for Kevin2 to have a look at the possible interrupt or frame buffer problem in haret? |
| 19:24.29 | pH5 | dcordes_: or you can always fix it yourself |
| 19:24.39 | dcordes_ | :) |
| 19:25.19 | dcordes_ | pH5: is there any information I can supply to make possible research easier for Kevin2 ? |
| 19:27.48 | dcordes_ | pH5: or how can I fix it myself if this was any serious |
| 19:28.30 | pH5 | dcordes_: I don't know. Maybe you can find what HaRET thinks is the framebuffer address from its logs |
| 19:30.00 | pH5 | dcordes_: probably not. you could switch the order of fb_clear and take_control functions in haret's linboot.cpp to check whether the problem is the irq disabling or the frame buffer write. |
| 19:31.30 | Zoolooc | dcordes_: hey, cool discovery, that with reset-on-simslot-open, didn't know and was worried about the battery cover... |
| 19:31.56 | dcordes_ | Zoolooc: yes removing the battery cover hurts my soul ^^ |
| 19:32.24 | Zoolooc | and doing too often hurts the cover's plastic |
| 19:32.38 | dcordes_ | a good way to do it though is to pull it up from the bottom edge with your fingernail |
| 19:33.16 | dcordes_ | that's how I did it with a handkerchief between |
| 19:33.42 | BabelO | pH5: oh can i force OE to use my compiler ? |
| 19:34.16 | dcordes_ | pH5: I cannot see any logs |
| 19:35.11 | dcordes_ | (inside haret.exe dir) |
| 19:36.39 | pH5 | dcordes_: iirc haret only logs if "earlyharetlog.txt" exists in that dir. |
| 19:36.40 | dcordes_ | only three files: my zImage haret and bootsrciprt |
| 19:36.44 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 19:36.53 | dcordes_ | touch earlyharetlog.txt ^^ |
| 19:37.12 | pH5 | BabelO: should be possible, but don't ask me how :) |
| 19:37.16 | pH5 | #oe will know |
| 19:38.05 | pH5 | or read http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=commonuse_prebuilt_toolchain |
| 19:42.45 | dcordes_ | pH5: does this look ok? boot params: RAMADDR=10000000 RAMSIZE=07000000 MTYPE=1553 CMDLINE='console=tty0 |
| 19:43.28 | BabelO | pH5: thanks |
| 19:44.07 | dcordes_ | here's my full haretlog.txt |
| 19:44.09 | dcordes_ | http://pastebin.ca/799610 |
| 19:53.24 | pH5 | dcordes_: if you enter print "%x" P2V(0x10000000), does it return 0x51b00000? |
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| 19:54.39 | pH5 | then, can you try VFH P2V(0x10000000) 76800 0xffff, does that fill the screen white? |
| 20:02.29 | dcordes_ | pH5: http://pastebin.ca/799635 |
| 20:04.00 | pH5 | huh, what do you make of that. does kaiser have a split framebuffer?? |
| 20:04.19 | dcordes_ | screenshot? |
| 20:07.34 | dcordes_ | I cannot believe people sell software to make screenshots |
| 20:13.52 | pH5 | dcordes_: what does print "%x" P2V(0x10010000) say? |
| 20:14.55 | pH5 | and what happens if you VFH 0x51b00000 76800 0xffff - does it lock up? |
| 20:22.27 | dcordes_ | https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=791306&native_or_pdf=pdf |
| 20:23.04 | dcordes_ | pH5: first 2a0000 |
| 20:23.34 | dcordes_ | pH5: nope it does whiten the screen completely |
| 20:25.40 | pH5 | ok, so the haret fb code is correct. no idea why p2v returns those 0x2x0000 mappings, the 0x51b00000 mapping points to phys 0x10000000 and the complete framebuffer is there, in one piece. |
| 20:27.10 | pH5 | --> the problem seems to be take_control(), probably the calls that disable interrupts. |
| 20:27.41 | pH5 | I have no better idea than to wait for Kevin2. |
| 20:27.49 | dcordes_ | ok then |
| 20:27.59 | dcordes_ | so we done for today :) ? |
| 20:28.33 | dcordes_ | thanks for your time again |
| 20:28.38 | dcordes_ | ~hail pH5 |
| 20:28.39 | apt | ACTION bows down to pH5 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 20:29.13 | pH5 | heh, done for now. I might come into play again when we actually enter the kernel. |
| 20:30.21 | dcordes_ | k |
| 20:31.40 | dcordes_ | bye |
| 20:32.12 | pH5 | bye |
| 20:43.57 | goxboxlive | pH5: Why is this happening. How to fix this? www.pastebin.no/2820 |
| 20:46.45 | pH5 | goxboxlive: maybe fallout from the recent gsmd packaging fuck-ups. Try deleting all gsmd* and libgsmd* from your deploy/glibc/ipk folder and rebuilding gsmd. |
| 20:47.02 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:47.06 | goxboxlive | thx |
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| 21:32.33 | cr2 | pH5: this is of course a problem. wince puts the framebuffer at the beginning of SDRAM, so it's not easy to keep it there. |
| 21:33.23 | pH5 | cr2: we need to find out where the frame buffer dma is configured |
| 21:33.28 | cr2 | titan is much better in this respect, because the framebuffer is in the SRAM. board-halibut also uses SRAM |
| 21:34.10 | cr2 | btw, the relocation of the kernel in the RAM should be visible. |
| 21:34.47 | pH5 | cr2: yup, it happens the same way when I boot linux from the htc bootloader on magician. |
| 21:34.47 | cr2 | pH5: it's obviously in the MDDI config. because you tell it where to get the packets which are sent to the panel. |
| 21:35.51 | cr2 | yes, but to change that we either need to have an MDDI driver, or to change the kernel/zimage load address. |
| 21:36.26 | cr2 | the address change is sone on some axim (i think) |
| 21:36.34 | cr2 | but it's on the pxa cpu. |
| 21:37.08 | cr2 | android kernel does some very wild manipulations on the page table, so i don't think it'll be easy to change. |
| 21:37.52 | cr2 | so the only reasonable alternative is to work on the toppoly panel setup. |
| 21:38.34 | cr2 | i don't really understand why htc put the framebuffer in sdram. |
| 21:46.22 | pH5 | I wonder why the msm_fb has an "updater" thread that runs on every frame. can't the cpu do the mem->mddi dma freely? |
| 21:47.09 | pH5 | from mdp.c, it doesn't look like there is much secret stuff going on when changing the dma source address. |
| 21:50.02 | pH5 | maybe we can get away just with writing the new phys addr to MDP_CMD_DEBUG_ACCESS_BASE + 0x0188 |
| 21:50.16 | pH5 | gosh, I hate all those undocumented offsets |
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| 21:57.32 | x_bruno | Hello guys |
| 21:58.12 | x_bruno | can anybody give me the link for the kaiser page, the progress done, it was git.android.something |
| 22:00.21 | x_bruno | found it |
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| 22:04.35 | x_bruno | can somebody give me some information about the git project? |
| 22:05.27 | x_bruno | differentiating if from the xanadux and the other projects? |
| 22:07.36 | x_bruno | is it just another "my linux is better than yours" with divided efforts or are people really combining something here_ |
| 22:07.42 | pH5 | x_bruno: git.android.com has nothing to do with the kaiser, except that they have basic support for a development board (halibut) that has a similar chip (msm7200a) as the kaiser (msm7200) |
| 22:08.07 | pH5 | so the linux-msm is our best-bet starting point to get linux running on the htc kaiser |
| 22:08.46 | x_bruno | so by looking for information for the board, memory mappings and more information could be found |
| 22:09.24 | pH5 | they are not dividing anything, and it seems best efforts are made to merge the linux-msm patches into mainline. |
| 22:09.44 | x_bruno | how can I get involved? |
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| 22:10.08 | CubaCola | hi |
| 22:10.18 | pH5 | x_bruno: participate in the discussions on this channel for a while |
| 22:10.31 | x_bruno | is there any page for this board? |
| 22:10.41 | x_bruno | google is only giving me fish |
| 22:10.45 | pH5 | afaik dcordes and Zoolooc have a kaiser, but we have not managed yet to jump into the linux kernel from haret |
| 22:11.09 | pH5 | wiki.xda-developers.com has some pages |
| 22:11.14 | cr2 | pH5: i guess these "update" operations can be accelerated. the lusers are stuck with direct register writes, and the google apps get the 3D performance boost ? |
| 22:11.50 | x_bruno | I have a kaiser as well, just got my self a new microSD card to start linuxing |
| 22:14.07 | pH5 | x_bruno: well, that's your chance to see the very beginning of a linux port. we are in the early stages where nothing works yet :) |
| 22:14.46 | pH5 | most information that was gathered so far is on the Kaiser_MDP and KaiserMemoryMap wiki pages |
| 22:14.54 | Zoolooc | hmm, is there any potential danger to the microSD partition(s) when eperimenting with linux once in a while? I bought a 4GB card for my Kaiser and use it often with GPS software, so that's why I'm asking |
| 22:15.10 | pH5 | Zoolooc: not until we have a working mmc driver |
| 22:15.56 | cr2 | pH5: the titan hitachi panel init is much more complex than toppoly on kaiser. but since it inits the FB in SRAM, it's invaluable because of the ability to compare the init sequences. |
| 22:15.58 | Zoolooc | alright, so if it will boot with haret, then only from initrd? |
| 22:17.07 | cr2 | CubaCola: i couldn't get the data from svn yesterday. |
| 22:17.54 | pH5 | cr2: I don't think all of this this is a big problem for the beginning. People will be happy with vsfb only for a while :) |
| 22:18.03 | pH5 | s/this this/this is/ |
| 22:18.11 | pH5 | s/is a/a/ |
| 22:18.23 | pH5 | gnn |
| 22:18.52 | x_bruno | pH5: where is this wiki? |
| 22:19.12 | pH5 | ^^ wiki.xda-developers.com |
| 22:20.57 | BabelO | cr2: nice environment ;) http://linuz.sns.it/~max/twin/ |
| 22:22.23 | CubaCola | cr2> i guess it's somewhere else so http://svn.opentwin.org/depot/trunk/Twin-Tact-FS/ |
| 22:23.17 | cr2 | BabelO: if it's possible to do a phone app based on gsmd, why not ? |
| 22:23.57 | BabelO | cr2: i can do a separate phone app from qtopia sources ;) |
| 22:24.05 | BabelO | now it is more easy with code |
| 22:24.12 | cr2 | CubaCola: thanks. |
| 22:24.35 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:27.13 | CubaCola | but it seems it's not in ... |
| 22:28.00 | x_bruno | pH5: where is that rom, is it the xanadux hermes one? |
| 22:28.19 | pH5 | x_bruno: what rom? |
| 22:28.42 | x_bruno | pH5: the linux kernel |
| 22:29.04 | x_bruno | or is it the haret? |
| 22:30.57 | pH5 | x_bruno: there is no linux kernel yet. we tried to boot from haret a kernel compiled from the linux-msm sources with the following patch applied: http://en.pastebin.ca/799864 |
| 22:31.18 | pH5 | but haret hangs even before jumping into the kernel, so we have to fix that first |
| 22:34.12 | x_bruno | what version of haret are you using? |
| 22:36.46 | x_bruno | the latest cvs one? |
| 22:36.56 | pH5 | x_bruno: yes |
| 22:37.28 | x_bruno | also I read that you need to flash the memory device with some code extracted from the handset for it to be recognized as a bootable rom |
| 22:41.29 | x_bruno | pH5: oops, sorry, I confused some terms |
| 22:42.20 | x_bruno | haret is supposed to run from the device right? |
| 22:45.36 | x_bruno | actually from linux to the device |
| 22:45.52 | x_bruno | via tcp/ip |
| 22:47.31 | cr2 | CubaCola: ti6150.bts :) |
| 22:48.16 | cr2 | CubaCola: it seems that everybody is using the same hardware in the phones. mdoc+ti6150+acx100+sirf3 |
| 22:57.42 | x_bruno | pH5: according to handhelds.org haRET supports the titan, with the MSM7500 |
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| 22:59.19 | x_bruno | hi dcordes |
| 22:59.32 | dcordes | hey x_bruno |
| 22:59.51 | x_bruno | i have been getting some info on haret |
| 23:00.08 | x_bruno | saddly i am doing a distro upgrade, so I cannot use CVS today |
| 23:00.28 | dcordes | x_bruno, what did you find out? |
| 23:00.37 | x_bruno | from the handhelds site, haret already supports the MSM7500 for the titan |
| 23:00.43 | x_bruno | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET |
| 23:01.10 | dcordes | yep |
| 23:02.33 | x_bruno | so do you still need to patch it? |
| 23:02.47 | x_bruno | or you can just use it |
| 23:03.27 | dcordes | we are still more than far away from using it. |
| 23:04.00 | x_bruno | also what was that thing with the sd card, something about formating it and putting a code |
| 23:04.56 | dcordes | x_bruno, you mean booting linux? |
| 23:06.05 | x_bruno | yes |
| 23:07.11 | dcordes | there is nothing bootable |
| 23:08.19 | dcordes | pH5, Kevin2 dropped in yet? |
| 23:12.39 | pH5 | dcordes: nope |
| 23:12.57 | x_bruno | but can you already use haret for checking gpio, registers and other stuff? |
| 23:13.33 | dcordes | x_bruno, yes |
| 23:13.41 | dcordes | but there is nothing to check at this time afaik |
| 23:14.10 | x_bruno | is version 5 working or do you need latest cvs? |
| 23:14.54 | cr2 | CubaCola: can you look in the /proc/gpio directory ? |
| 23:14.55 | dcordes | we have to wait for the haret main developer to cook up a fix. currently haret has problems accessing kaiser's hardware. something about irq interrupts |
| 23:15.58 | x_bruno | generic or processor specific? |
| 23:16.16 | x_bruno | the lack of documentation for the processor is amazing |
| 23:17.37 | dcordes | yes thanks android msm there is a kernel though |
| 23:17.58 | x_bruno | yes, luckily they had the dev board with information |
| 23:18.07 | dcordes | x_bruno, I don't know exactly. Ask pH5 about more detail |
| 23:18.46 | CubaCola | cr2> sorry not now, i'll wake up in 5hours :S |
| 23:18.58 | CubaCola | work work work |
| 23:19.03 | dcordes | but I think it is not really processor specific but more about other hardware |
| 23:19.03 | CubaCola | see u |
| 23:19.20 | BabelO | CubaCola: lol in paris, you have to wake up very soon :) |
| 23:19.20 | dcordes | haret can't "take over" control |
| 23:19.25 | BabelO | :( |
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| 23:21.03 | x_bruno | but haret is also used for viewing memory and registers, and other stuff, right? |
| 23:21.47 | cr2 | BabelO: there are a lot of goodies for your artemis there :) |
| 23:22.17 | dcordes | x_bruno, yes but that's unnecessary at this stage |
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| 23:24.01 | x_bruno | just to poke around, take notes |
| 23:24.20 | x_bruno | I have 45 minutes train comute each way |
| 23:24.31 | x_bruno | can you think of a better way to kill time? |
| 23:25.05 | cr2 | BabelO: how much do these phones cost ? |
| 23:25.32 | BabelO | cr2: which one e2831 ? |
| 23:25.56 | cr2 | twin-v2, twin-v3 |
| 23:26.10 | dcordes | x_bruno, I can't help you with information on what info to gain |
| 23:26.18 | BabelO | cr2: 1euros ;) with contract |
| 23:26.41 | cr2 | how long are the contracts ? |
| 23:26.59 | cr2 | and how much does one pay per month ? |
| 23:27.12 | dcordes | x_bruno, a good thing is to have haret installed and your phone ready to give answers quick when one developer has a question |
| 23:28.04 | x_bruno | dcordes: would haret 5 work for what I want? |
| 23:28.07 | BabelO | cr2: it is 1 euros and 57.9 poer month or 49 euros and 21.9 per month , i ll look for how long it is |
| 23:28.18 | dcordes | x_bruno, no get the latest |
| 23:28.38 | x_bruno | a bit stuck there, doing the distro upgrade now |
| 23:28.47 | dcordes | x_bruno, you also need a pythong script to connect to haret from your remote box |
| 23:28.53 | x_bruno | and kubuntu does not have cvs |
| 23:28.59 | dcordes | x_bruno, get the latest build |
| 23:29.28 | x_bruno | dcordes: so I am waiting for it to finish for me to download cvs |
| 23:29.45 | x_bruno | will kevin apply the patch or do I apply it? |
| 23:30.00 | dcordes | http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071122.exe |
| 23:30.09 | dcordes | get this, put it on your phone |
| 23:30.46 | dcordes | x_bruno, can I dcc you the python console script? |
| 23:31.31 | dcordes | you need this on your telnet client |
| 23:31.32 | x_bruno | yes |
| 23:31.39 | dcordes | sent. |
| 23:32.13 | dcordes | x_bruno, email? |
| 23:32.27 | x_bruno | bruce_loco@hotmail.com |
| 23:34.35 | BabelO | cr2: so it is 49 euros do buy the phone then 21.9 per month for 24 month, with that you have unillimited access to tv, and phone call up to 50 country when you are connected over wifi and you have also 1h30 of gsm call |
| 23:36.53 | cr2 | BabelO: sounds expensive just for hacking. |
| 23:36.55 | dcordes | x_bruno, sent |
| 23:37.19 | x_bruno | dcordes: thanks |
| 23:37.25 | BabelO | cr yes :) |
| 23:37.50 | dcordes | BabelO, which phone? |
| 23:38.36 | BabelO | dcordes: open twin phone |
| 23:38.48 | cr2 | BabelO: they put things all over the place in the filesystem |
| 23:39.18 | dcordes | BabelO, where can I see it? |
| 23:39.55 | BabelO | cr2: i think they do that only to have ability to upgrade partial software like just qtopia or just kernel or just system software |
| 23:40.13 | BabelO | it is like greenphone |
| 23:40.35 | BabelO | dcordes: http://offres.neuf.fr/mobile/nos-mobiles/twin_tact.html#offres |
| 23:40.38 | cr2 | 22*24+49. hehe. |
| 23:41.58 | dcordes | BabelO, ah it's a pure wifi phone? |
| 23:42.29 | cr2 | Design : classique |
| 23:42.42 | BabelO | dcordes: not only gsm too |
| 23:42.47 | cr2 | BabelO: is it usual ? Garantie : 1 an |
| 23:43.01 | cr2 | hehe. no infrared. |
| 23:43.15 | BabelO | cr2: missing on artemis too :( |
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| 23:43.35 | cr2 | BabelO: radio FM : non |
| 23:44.37 | cr2 | and no gps |
| 23:45.20 | BabelO | cr2: yes you pay the unlimited access to phone call in european union and some other contry |
| 23:45.23 | dcordes | x_bruno, you exctract the script on your desktop machine, create any kind of connection that you can use telnet on, run haret.exe on tytnII, hit haret's listen for connection button and finally inside the folder with the console script run ./console tytnII's ip |
| 23:45.39 | dcordes | then you can check help for commands or just do what people tell you ^^ |
| 23:46.18 | x_bruno | dcordes: the tar file is corrupt |
| 23:46.36 | cr2 | BabelO: it's ok, if you'll use it. |
| 23:46.47 | dcordes | x_bruno, extracts just fine here |
| 23:47.00 | x_bruno | strange |
| 23:47.02 | dcordes | x_bruno, 9966 Bytes? |
| 23:47.23 | BabelO | cr2: i use it but the one i have with my internet provider and i use artemis for wifi phone call |
| 23:47.29 | dcordes | try to bunzip2 it first, then tar xf it |
| 23:47.44 | x_bruno | ah |
| 23:47.58 | cr2 | BabelO: /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libtivendor.so :) |
| 23:48.11 | dcordes | cr2, how do you make wifi calls? |
| 23:48.53 | dcordes | I only have skype on kaiser which can only use the speaker or headset |
| 23:49.11 | cr2 | BabelO: isn't ffmpeg GPL ? |
| 23:49.22 | cr2 | dcordes: i don't |
| 23:49.52 | BabelO | dcordes: my internet provider give me access to sip , so i use sjphone or go-sip on wince |
| 23:49.57 | BabelO | cr2: yes it is |
| 23:50.09 | cr2 | BabelO: wtf is it a qtopia plugin ? |
| 23:50.10 | x_bruno | interesting |
| 23:50.30 | dcordes | BabelO, can this access your normal phone's speaker and microphone you use for calls? |
| 23:50.41 | BabelO | cr2: acutally there is some fight between neuf.fr and free.fr because both are not relaesed there sources code and both use linux for phone and internet access box |
| 23:50.54 | BabelO | dcordes: yes |
| 23:51.02 | dcordes | BabelO, which phone? |
| 23:51.30 | BabelO | cr2: it seem it is in the correct directory, maybe i can test if they release 4.3 |
| 23:51.46 | BabelO | dcordes: artemis or blueangel |
| 23:51.56 | BabelO | dcordes: works on your phone too |
| 23:52.07 | dcordes | cool, will try that |
| 23:52.15 | x_bruno | dcordes:bunzip does not extract, says its not a bunzip2 file |
| 23:52.17 | dcordes | don't know if I have sip from my provider |
| 23:52.37 | dcordes | oh right it's tar.gz sorry |
| 23:52.59 | dcordes | tar xvf haretconsole.tar.gz ? |
| 23:53.59 | x_bruno | tar: This does not look like a tar archive |
| 23:53.59 | x_bruno | tar: Skipping to next header |
| 23:53.59 | x_bruno | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 23:54.18 | BabelO | x_bruno: use file |
| 23:54.35 | dcordes | maybe gmail borked it |
| 23:54.45 | BabelO | x_bruno: file haretconsole.tar.gz |
| 23:54.54 | BabelO | and it tell you what it is |
| 23:57.02 | x_bruno | got it |
| 23:57.11 | x_bruno | had to gzip it and the tar it |
| 23:57.26 | cr2 | BabelO: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-November/011836.html |
| 23:57.30 | BabelO | x_bruno: then it was tar xvzf |
| 23:58.19 | x_bruno | Babel0: it's those little details |
| 23:58.48 | BabelO | cr2: ok ;) have to try later |
| 23:59.08 | x_bruno | dcordes: does haret come with its console? |
| 23:59.48 | dcordes | x_bruno, yes which you can only access from a different computer over telnet as described above. |