IRC log for #htc-linux on 20071118

00:00.01PITABoy_mobileoh
00:00.07cr2Kevin2: on omap850 the hw i2c port is used.
00:00.23dcordesis there something like RE for dummies?
00:00.26cr2ok, but it may be bitbanging spi.
00:01.07cr2dcordes: no, it's just experience.
00:01.36cr2dcordes: the best thing you can do with haret is to watch the irq changes and memory/address space accesses.
00:02.19cr2Kevin2: i've indentified all the 90c and 910 bits used by ATI SD driver. now i'd like to see them in action...
00:02.21dcordesI guess I don't understand the whole haret research thing. Is there any documentation about it?
00:02.29dcordesdetailing the progress
00:02.47Kevin2cr2: It closely follows the i2c spec.  There are two gpios (sda and scl).  The scl pin is always an output and it goes on/off in regular beats.  The sda pin is either high or low, and is generally only changed when scl is low.  After the address is sent, the last bit indicates whether or not the host wants to read/write.  The transmission starts off with an sda change while scl is high (an i2c start event).  etc.  
00:02.53dcordess/process /process /
00:03.03dcordes~lart dcordes
00:03.03aptbrandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, dcordes!" and lops off dcordes's head
00:03.50cr2Kevin2: do you have the third gpio in this process lowered before the transmission, and set after it ?
00:03.59Kevin2No - only two gpios.
00:04.05cr2ok.
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00:45.30pH5Kevin2: not sure, at least it uses the omap850's i2c controller to access it.
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02:24.53PITABoyQPST is cool
02:26.06PITABoyI wonder if I could change my number???
02:26.14PITABoyi dont want to mess it up thou
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05:35.11dblrblhello all
05:36.28Kevin2Hi
05:38.05dblrblHow goes the Linux on Kaiser progress?  The log is not yet posted from yesterday
05:39.35Kevin2No new progress in the last few days (as far as I know).
05:39.56dblrblAha!  The log is now posted, I will catch up
05:43.35dblrbllol
06:24.49dblrblis there a compiled zImage that you guys have been trying to boot on the Kaiser, or will I need to roll my own/
06:24.57dblrbl*?
06:25.52dblrblahh I am too late -- it is not yet late for me on the west coast
06:31.07Kevin2dblrbl: We're still a ways off before we'll having a kernel for msm.
06:31.45dblrblok cool, I thought I had missed something
06:31.53dblrblany way I can help in the meantime?
06:38.31Kevin2dblrbl: It's hard to port linux without cpu docs.  You could ask Qualcom for the docs, but I doubt that would work.
06:38.43Kevin2The other option is to reverse engineer the info from wince.
06:38.57Kevin2If I understand correctly, the irq registers are the biggest unknown right now.
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06:39.15dblrblOk, good to know
06:39.27dblrblI know the docs have been asked for more than once
06:40.03dblrblit drives me mad how slow my Kaiser runs compared to the clock speed
06:41.08dblrblI'm hoping Linux will be able to help with that
06:44.35dblrblmaybe we should go old school and social-engineer the docs out of Qualcomm
06:59.35Kevin2Good night.
07:05.58dblrblgood night
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10:50.27pH5www.gmail.com
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11:19.41goxboxliveKevin2: Do i have to use the name "zImage" or could it be a autogenerated name from Openembedded?
11:19.51goxboxlivepH5: good morning.
11:20.14pH5hey goxboxlive
11:21.50goxboxlivepH5: did you see Kevin2 work yesterday. It's quite easy way of booting/installing linux now.
11:22.29goxboxlivehmm Angstrom have moved over to gcc-cross-4.2.2.
11:24.08pH5goxboxlive: no, it hasn't.
11:24.16pH52008.1 is unstable testbed
11:25.02goxboxliveyes, it's 2008.1 who has moved over to 4.2.2. I am building a kernel now. And it started to build gcc-cross-initial-4.2.2
11:28.51pH5loop-mounted rootfs? nice idea, this also makes it easier for us, as we can continue just providing the tar.bz2 rootfs images
11:30.17goxboxlivepH5: right, i am making one for Magician now. I can upload it for you, but let me know when you have got it because my Qtopia image includes Helix which i am not allowed to share. Only for dev.
11:30.43pH5heh, yes please.
11:31.31goxboxliveYou only need a sd card with a vaft partition bigger than 128 MB :-) .
11:31.45pH5128mb is too small?
11:32.46goxboxliveNo, it's enough
11:32.56goxboxlivedamn gcc-cross inital failed building
11:33.10pH5really?
11:33.18pH5I'm using it since months ago.
11:33.21pH5hm..
11:34.06goxboxliveBut i did a pull today
11:34.12pH5goxboxlive: can you pastebin the log?
11:34.14goxboxliveand it where rebuilded
11:34.16goxboxliveyes
11:34.39pH5if you just want to build the kernel, you can revert gcc-cross-initial back to 4.1.2 in angstrom-2008.1.conf.
11:34.49pH5I'll try to rebuild and reproduce.
11:35.05goxboxlivepastebin.no/2796
11:37.46pH5oh dear, that ugly psignal issue.
11:39.59goxboxlive:-)
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13:15.36pH5goxboxlive: http://en.pastebin.ca/779796 <-- this change fixes the gcc-cross-initial build for me.
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14:19.27dcordeshi
14:19.31pH5hi dcordes
14:22.04Zooloochi ppl
14:22.10dcordeshey Zoolooc
14:26.51cr2hi
14:27.15cr2goxboxlive: i've tested qtopia yesterday, and have some questions.
14:47.55dcordeshow do you guys usually decide on which alias to chose for a machine? eg in case of kaiser- why not calling it tytnII?
14:53.32cr2dcordes: htc hardcodes the names into its bootloader
14:54.04dcordesI see. Is there any place where those names from the bootloader are listed?
14:54.18cr2tytnII is something invented by brainless marketing people :)
14:54.44dcordesBWL0r
14:54.48cr2the "short" names are reported by wince.
14:56.43cr2yeah, by those who get their batchelor degree by tschibo ;)
14:57.02dcordesnot neckermann?
14:57.09cr2lol
14:57.47cr2hmm. i'll look what kaiser resports as its name.
14:58.04dcordesyou got one there?
14:58.12cr2no.
14:58.16cr2but the bootloader.
14:58.23dcordesah ok
14:58.54cr2it says "Kaiser SPL EVT"
15:00.29cr2and there are 2 supported LCDs. toppoly and sony.
15:00.42dcordespropably SPL EVT defines windows version?
15:01.23cr2no.
15:01.38cr2i forgot what is EVT.
15:02.22dcordesand SPL?
15:04.09cr2secondary program loader or something like that.
15:04.19cr2it's the second level bootloader.
15:06.35dcordesk
15:08.47goxboxlivecr2: yes and whats the question?
15:09.06dcordeshttp://www.htc.com/product/03-products-11.htm#2 which one is this phone right here?
15:09.09cr2goxboxlive: is there such distro for ba ?
15:09.41goxboxlivecr2:  what kind of distro? Angstrom, yes
15:10.11cr2goxboxlive: battery level is not shown, gsm signal level is full, but i don't even have a sim card. how do i suspend ?
15:10.18dcordescr2, there is a htcblueangel machine type in openembedded
15:10.25cr2goxboxlive: qtopia for ba in the same format.
15:10.37cr2dcordes: it's outdated afaik.
15:10.43dcordesI think so
15:10.45cr2dcordes: because it was the first.
15:10.55dcordespitty that nobody maintains it
15:11.32cr2dcordes: it's apache ?
15:12.02cr2i think it's a wrong idea to support _only_ blueangel.
15:12.18dcordesyou mean in oe? there are several htc mach types
15:13.55Kevin2goxboxlive: The make-bootbundle.py script does not care about file names at all.  Choose any names you want.
15:14.27Kevin2goxboxlive: I've pushed a new rootfs - a couple of minor changes - http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/initramfs-installer/rootfs.cgz
15:14.45cr2yes. the kernel will be compiled per-device obviously. but the userspace (and its interface) programs should be the same for all.
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15:18.54kiozenhi all
15:19.09kiozencr2: any news on the n560
15:19.14kiozen?
15:19.29dcordeshttp://www.htc.com/product/03-products-11.htm#5 any clue which machine name this one has?
15:19.40dcordesHTC GPS PDA
15:20.54cr2kiozen: no. probably i'm making some mistake there. my CPLD driver for athena crashes at boot too.
15:22.01kiozenok, tell me if you need something from me
15:22.39Kevin2cr2: I fixed the front keypad driver on hermes last night.  We can now control the front leds, lcd power, and keypad on hermes.
15:23.11cr2kiozen: ok.
15:23.37cr2Kevin2: with the "i2c" driver too ?
15:24.17Kevin2cr2: Apache and Hermes use the same bit-banging i2c-like device.  (It isn't real i2c, because instead of an 8bit address, it only sends a 5bit address.)
15:24.20cr2Kevin2: afair the LCD needs the magic upload to run.
15:24.28cr2ok.
15:24.28Kevin2But, yes, it's the same driver.
15:24.49cr2Kevin2: does the TS work for you ?
15:25.19Kevin2I haven't tested it.  We're going to need a regular ADC driver though - battery monitoring is also done via S3C ADC.
15:25.31cr2ok.
15:25.49cr2i need to get the 910 and 90c live trace.
15:26.01cr2then the SD driver will be ready for testing.
15:26.51cr2maybe the bruteforce approach should be applied.
15:27.28Kevin2Okay.  On my list: write spi keyboard driver, write s3c adc driver, plug in touchscreen and battery monitoring, make backlight brightness adjustable.
15:28.19cr2i know the code layout, disassembling the code chunk up from the str/ldr address will give the location of the local SDHC array which stores the virtual base.
15:28.36cr2ok, we are making good progress :)
15:30.05cr2Kevin2: look at the blueangel spi keyboard driver. it will be nice to reuse your driver there too.
15:31.29Kevin2cr2: If you know the code address - why don't you just set a breakpoint and inspect what address it writes to?
15:33.10cr2the driver is not dumped from my hermes, so the addresses may differ.
15:33.31cr2i have had such problem already.
15:34.04cr2maybe testwm5-style dumper should be added to haret after all.
15:36.00Kevin2I'm not sure if it is legal here in the states - DMCA type stuff..
15:36.13cr2ok.
15:42.08pH5cr2: have you figured out anything about the sd booting?
15:42.51pH5I was digging around in the bootloader, and the function to check the security level in the sd download part is the same that is used to show the current level in task 32 (which shows as 0), so I have no idea what is going wrong.
15:43.24cr2pH5: on magician ?
15:43.30pH5yes
15:43.47cr2because i get ff on the uni.
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15:44.03cr2and the function is different afair.
15:44.39cr2goxboxlive: are you still here ?
15:57.39goxboxlivecr2: Battery should work, dont know why. I have to check it later. GSM is showing because i have disabled the modem for you in that image.
15:57.55goxboxlivecr2: isent BabelO creating images for BA
15:58.17goxboxliveKevin2: ok, that's great so i dont have to rename.
15:58.24goxboxliveKevin2: i'll try it later.
15:58.54cr2goxboxlive: what about suspend ?
15:59.17goxboxliveShould work. you have to set it up in GUI mode.
15:59.26cr2i press the power button, and it just hangs.
15:59.27goxboxliveSettings-> powersetteing
15:59.34cr2ok.
15:59.37goxboxlivecr2: maybe 100MB isent enuogh
16:00.05cr2for a real install ?
16:00.06goxboxliveMaybe i should try to edit Kevin2 script and test with a bigger image..
16:00.09cr2maybe.
16:00.10goxboxliveyes
16:00.18cr2but it's more a demo install.
16:00.27goxboxliveThe image is huge now, because it's a common for A780/UNI and amg
16:00.29goxboxlivemag
16:00.33goxboxliveyes
16:00.35cr2we should not push everything into the demo.
16:00.56goxboxliveof course not, but this way i only need to build one qtopia and not three
16:01.04cr2but i guess the phone and suspend should work.
16:01.05cr2ok.
16:01.12Kevin2100Meg is a lot - why not just run "df" and see how much space is free?
16:01.40goxboxliveKevin2: beacuse it hangs
16:01.46Kevin2df hangs?
16:02.09goxboxliveBut this is just on my 128MB sd card. On my 2GB card i dont have that problem
16:02.18goxboxlivelinux/devie
16:02.22goxboxlivedevice
16:02.47Kevin2Hrmm.  The latest rootfs that I posted does a much better job of checking for errors.  You may want to retry with it.
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16:39.19goxboxliveKevin2: i will, i'll try later. I visitors. I also think we should add verbose when extracting the rootfs. Because then people will see that something happends, so they dont think it's hanging.
16:40.00Kevin2Yeah.  I had it that way originally, but then the screen scrolls by and you don't see past status messages.
16:40.36Kevin2I think it may be possible to convert every 50 files into a single "." character.  But it would need some shell magic to do it.
16:46.42dcordesare there any special haret versions for msm7x00 or are features for devices with this kind of chipset included in mainline?
16:47.03Kevin2dcordes: mainline.
16:47.07dcordesok
16:47.43goxboxliveKevin2: yes a series of '.' would be perfect.
16:51.08pH5tar jfvx | 'sed -n 1~50i.'
16:51.18pH5and some way to get rid of the newlines
16:51.46pH5I guess "| while read line; do echo -n $line; done" only works in char buffered terminals?
16:52.01Kevin2pH5: Couldn't we replace the newlines with "." somehow?
17:03.08cr2Kevin2: there are 48,4a,4c and 4e mappings for the ATI control regs. do you know which mapping is used by which subsystem ?
17:03.58Kevin2cr2: No, I haven't kept track of that.
17:04.54cr2ok.
17:06.15cr2in 48 i see 200 and 204
17:06.36cr2GEN_INT_CNTL
17:06.54cr2and GEN_INT_STATUS
17:08.43cr24a has a lof of different regs.
17:08.57pH5Kevin2: I don't know how to do it with sed. how about tar jfvx | awk '{ if ((NR % 10) == 0) printf "." }'
17:10.43cr2d0,d4,d8,dc
17:11.10cr2these are i2s clock regs.
17:12.14cr2148 RB soft reset
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17:15.54cr2in 4e 140 21c
17:16.18cr2RB again
17:17.42cr2yes :)
17:17.47cr2the 910 and 90c are in 4c
17:19.16cr2Kevin2: what is IRQS  cpldirq: CPLD1(65)=1 ?
17:19.57cr2i get  # a=4c010204 v=02000000
17:20.06cr2immediately after it
17:20.14cr2and it's the GEN_INT_STATUS
17:25.33cr2hm. why do i get the asm decoded in the log, but not on the screen ?
17:29.40cr2so 2 is "vline irq", and is handled in w100_vsync()
17:30.22cr22000000 is the sd irq.
17:32.03cr2write to status means clear irq.
17:33.55Kevin2cr2: I don't know what CPLD1 is - is this hermes?  Are you using usb?
17:35.17Kevin2The decoded value in the log is a minimal decoding that haret does.  Can you do a cvs up and try the latest haretconsole?  It will look in /opt/mingw32ce/bin for objdump now.
17:35.40cr2i've linked the objdump.
17:35.44cr2mem b4700004=00000002 (00000002)
17:36.29cr2looks like SD irq to me
17:36.53cr2because it's always followed by
17:36.58cr2mmutrace 0924f05c: e583a204(str) 4c010204 02000000 (00000000)
17:37.10Kevin2Oh, I get CPLD1 irqs also - looks like an ATI interrupt.
17:37.13cr2which is irq ack
17:37.23cr2Kevin2: yes, i'm on hermes.
17:37.59Kevin2cr2: You can decode the logs too - for example: ../console/dis.py < haretlog-20071116_193056.log | less
17:38.06cr2Kevin2: where is the ATI SD block mapped ?
17:38.07cr2ok.
17:39.26Kevin2cr2: I don't know.  I see accesses to 0x4c... and 0x48...
17:40.09cr2ok, i'll check. 4c sounds logical.
17:40.12Kevin2I use the following trace commands:
17:40.14Kevin2addlist mmutrace 0x48000000 4*1024*1024
17:40.14Kevin2addlist mmutrace 0x4a000000 4*1024*1024
17:40.14Kevin2addlist mmutrace 0x4c000000 4*1024*1024
17:40.14Kevin2addlist mmutrace 0x4e000000 4*1024*1024
17:40.14Kevin2addlist mmutrace 0x94800000 2*1024*1024
17:40.15Kevin2addlist mmutrace 0xb4800000 2*1024*1024
17:40.17Kevin2set permissivemmutrace 1
17:40.19Kevin2ibit irqs 38
17:40.59cr2Kevin2: it's too much.
17:41.05cr24a is used by sound.
17:41.28cr2didn't see anything for the cam, but it must use the ATI i2c regs
17:45.23cr2yes, sd is at 4c
17:46.45cr2addlist mmutrace 0x4c202000 0x1000
17:46.46cr2and
17:46.49cr2addlist mmutrace 0x4c010000 0x10000
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17:48.49cr2Kevin2: is it possible to 'sed' the mmutrace 0924b058: e19330b1(ldrh) 4c202044 00000300 (00000000)
17:49.05cr2to show IntMaskBuffer instead of 4c202044  ?
17:51.02Kevin2What is IntMaskBuffer?
17:52.02cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ATIWxxxx
17:52.06cr2at the bottom
17:52.29cr2a register name
17:52.49Kevin2Oh, you mean decode the addresses to register names.  Yeah, it is possible, but it'll be a pain.
17:53.47cr2ok, i#ll write a sed file.
17:53.50Kevin2With "watch", we know exactly what we're going to get.  With mmutrace, we might get one byte reads to 4 byte registers..  etc.
17:55.55Kevin2Oh, if you want a quick and dirty way...   Change dis.py so that where it prints m.group('addr') have it do a lookup on memalias.ArchRegs.
17:56.15kiozencr2: dump question: how do I tell make modules_install to use another path than /lib/modules ?
17:56.43cr2kiozen: it's easy. i'll look in the Makefile
17:57.02cr2Kevin2: ok, i'll try.
17:58.12cr2kiozen: INSTALL_MOD_PATH is the root of 'lib/modules'
17:58.13Kevin2Hrmm.  ArchRegs uses physical addresses - so, you'll also need to map the virtual to physical.
17:58.20kiozencr2: ok got it
17:58.39cr2Kevin2: ok, it's easy.
18:00.16Kevin2bbl
18:02.41goxboxliveKevin2: i am testing with an bigger partition on Magian now.
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18:07.01goxboxlivecr2: do we use htc-egpio?
18:11.31cr2goxboxlive: not yet.
18:11.51cr2but i want to switch.
18:12.09cr2goxboxlive: does the phone work on magician ?
18:12.54goxboxlivenot with Qtopia, only openmoko
18:14.11cr2hmm.
18:27.04goxboxlivecr2: how come?
18:29.14goxboxliveI have problems with Magician and installer. Magician freezes
18:29.15cr2then qtopia is not usable on ba.
18:29.26goxboxliveno, BabelO has the same problem
18:29.58goxboxliveWe have asked ljp to talk to the comm gyus at TT, maybe he can help us a little.
18:37.50goxboxlivehmm magician freezes totaly when i load Qtopia. Wonder what that might be.
18:38.18goxboxliveIt runs well in console mode.
18:39.10cr2goxboxlive: can i load the qtopia by BabelO in the same way ?
18:39.17goxboxliveAnd now i am running with a 1GB vfat card so the size shouldnt matter. I have tested it with Universal and 100MB should be enough also for Magian then, since i am using the same Qtopia build
18:39.49goxboxlivecr2: yes, but you will need BabelOs zImage. I guess it is suplied in the /boot folder.
18:41.25cr2ok, so the modules are not in the initramfs ?
18:44.54goxboxlivecr2: Now, it seems for me that the initramfs is only ceating a live image, and then we dont use it anymore.
18:45.50goxboxlivepH5: Could you add vfat, loop and ext2 to the magian defconfig, they are now aplied as modules, but with the new method we need tohave them in the kernel zImage
18:56.33goxboxliveNow i have magian and qtopia working. It was my fault
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22:14.28BabelOhello
22:40.14cr2hi BabelO
22:41.44BabelOhi cr2
22:41.46cr2BabelO: have you seen the new installer by Kevin2 ?
22:42.10BabelOcr2: yes i read the log, need to compile one for BA ;) reaaly good tool
22:42.24cr2yes.
22:42.37BabelOcr2: and for battery display on BA i found the bug, it is just two line to add in a config file under /etc
22:43.07BabelOcr2: a question, how can i convert unint timestamp -> string ? funciton ctime ?
22:44.29Zooloochello
22:44.47dblrblhello
22:45.23BabelOhello Zoolooc ,dblrbl
22:47.50cr2BabelO: yes.
22:48.05BabelOok
22:48.31cr2BabelO: battery does not show up for me on the universal too. an the red led makes me nervous :)
22:49.13cr2i don't know the purpose of $MACHINE in the led name, but how do we unify the led control ?
22:52.40BabelOcr2: don't know about that, i ve done a filter for my app and led, i just take name after ":"
22:54.13BabelOcr2: for battery, just check /opt/Qtopia/etc/Tasks.cfg, you need two line in section [prestartup]  HtcphoneBattery and HtcphoneHardware
22:54.39BabelObattery management change a little between 4.2 and 4.3 :)
22:56.12cr2ok.
23:09.41dblrblrofl
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