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| 00:12.16 | BabelO | hey swetland you are back ;) |
| 00:12.37 | swetland | barely. tired as hell. |
| 00:12.52 | BabelO | ok, project is ok for monday |
| 00:12.58 | cr2_ | no response for CMD8 :( |
| 00:12.58 | BabelO | lot of work i suppose |
| 00:13.10 | BabelO | cr2_: on artemis it is CMD0 :) |
| 00:13.27 | cr2_ | CMD8 *3 R7 No SEND_IF_COND |
| 00:13.38 | cr2_ | Check voltage range |
| 00:14.07 | cr2_ | hell, i want the .23 kernel now |
| 00:14.15 | cr2_ | with normal sdio init. |
| 00:15.00 | swetland | it is busy. I'm trying to clean up stuff and get rid of this hack we did in proc-v6.S to deal with MT_DEVICE_NONSHARED stuff |
| 00:15.14 | swetland | and deal with various other feedback from lakml |
| 00:16.25 | cr2_ | hi swetland |
| 00:16.39 | cr2_ | BabelO: the CMD0 is not sent for some reason. |
| 00:17.08 | cr2_ | and i need to adapt the CPLD driver to login over usb.. |
| 00:18.15 | cr2_ | BabelO: i'm wrong. |
| 00:18.20 | cr2_ | the CMD0 is sent |
| 00:18.36 | cr2_ | it's the 4x8 font that is too small. |
| 00:19.02 | cr2_ | but the CMD0 gets all zeros in response. |
| 00:19.24 | cr2_ | switching back to the normal vga font. |
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| 00:24.34 | cr2_ | BabelO: how does the response to CMD0 look on artemis ? |
| 00:24.51 | BabelO | cr2_: actually it is timeout ;) |
| 00:26.05 | cr2_ | hm. ok. |
| 00:26.29 | cr2_ | need to try the ba, maybe. |
| 00:26.46 | BabelO | cr2_: how can i check on ba |
| 00:26.54 | BabelO | i have it running actually |
| 00:27.45 | cr2_ | enable mmc debug |
| 00:28.14 | cr2_ | and insert some bogus SD card |
| 00:28.28 | cr2_ | so it will crash early. |
| 00:28.34 | BabelO | cr2_: ah i have one like this |
| 00:30.14 | BabelO | it crash before booting from partition :) |
| 00:30.14 | cr2_ | well, maybe don't insert anything |
| 00:30.38 | cr2_ | if i take out the card, i get the same zero response. |
| 00:31.18 | cr2_ | need to read the spec. |
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| 00:33.26 | cr2_ | the init should start with CMD5 |
| 00:33.33 | PITABoy | mxktmdude |
| 00:33.35 | cr2_ | but probably only with the newer kernels. |
| 00:33.37 | PITABoy | I am back |
| 00:33.43 | PITABoy | (home_ |
| 00:33.45 | PITABoy | ) |
| 00:57.35 | BabelO | good night |
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| 01:09.18 | Zoolooc_ | hi there |
| 01:10.09 | Zoolooc_ | PITABoy, how#s going with hacking? |
| 01:10.09 | PITABoy | good |
| 01:10.09 | PITABoy | how did you know that I was hacking |
| 01:10.20 | PITABoy | I'm about to git the msm7k kernel |
| 01:11.26 | Zoolooc_ | I read about you telneting to haret aon your device and stuff |
| 01:12.25 | PITABoy | yeah but I found better news today Google android devision has been working with Qualcomm to come out with kernel patches that make the kernel boot on msm7x00 |
| 01:12.33 | PITABoy | now known as msm7k |
| 01:12.45 | Zoolooc_ | well, that's really good news |
| 01:13.01 | PITABoy | yup |
| 01:13.23 | Zoolooc_ | last night I tried to connect my kaiser via rndis-host, and no go... |
| 01:13.26 | PITABoy | and I have dumps of my mogul so I can find out more about drivers |
| 01:13.35 | mxktmdude | hi Zoolooc_ what device do you have? an msm7500 too? |
| 01:13.51 | Zoolooc_ | a 7200 actually, the kaiser |
| 01:13.59 | mxktmdude | ohh |
| 01:14.09 | PITABoy | he has the kaiser the gsm version of the mogul + a added flip in the screen when you open it |
| 01:14.18 | swetland | 7x00 family is pretty much interchangable from the apps processor standpoint, to my understanding |
| 01:14.20 | PITABoy | i mean the titan |
| 01:15.11 | mxktmdude | ahh swetland, cr2_ said you might have a kernel soon? or was i mistaken? |
| 01:15.52 | PITABoy | I am currently giting the patches |
| 01:16.14 | swetland | a kernel soon for what? |
| 01:16.27 | Zoolooc_ | is that git kernel compilable with a 4.2.2 crosscompiler? what exact toolchain target should I generate with crossdev on my gentoo machine for it :-) ? |
| 01:16.46 | PITABoy | not sure |
| 01:16.59 | swetland | it's based on 2.6.23 -- anything that can build that should work fine. gcc 4.x should not be a problem |
| 01:17.04 | PITABoy | all I know is that It is the 2.6.23 or 2.6.24 kernel |
| 01:17.34 | Zoolooc_ | I'm pretty confident it will compile, question is if it boots :-) |
| 01:17.49 | PITABoy | I'm going to build with the 2.6.23 tree |
| 01:18.06 | PITABoy | and whatever crosscompiler that I downloaded the binaries for |
| 01:18.30 | PITABoy | arm-linux-gcc-3.4.1.tar.bz2 |
| 01:18.45 | PITABoy | nice and stable |
| 01:18.48 | Zoolooc_ | I'm crosscompiling this way for armv5tejl-softfloat-linux-gnueabi with a gcc-4.2.2 for my arm9 based Buffalo NAS |
| 01:19.11 | Zoolooc_ | but I guess for the pda uclibc is needed |
| 01:19.16 | PITABoy | cool i didnt know that you could compile your own kernel for the buffalo nas |
| 01:19.27 | PITABoy | no it isnt afaik |
| 01:19.35 | mxktmdude | swetland, maybe cr2_ just ment that you were working on something msm7x00 related and i got confused |
| 01:19.59 | swetland | I am working on msm7x00 related stuff, that is true |
| 01:20.04 | Zoolooc_ | btw, does this cpu have a floating point unit? |
| 01:20.17 | PITABoy | it is just uclibc is just smaller and faster i think |
| 01:20.35 | mxktmdude | ohh are you the guy from google lol |
| 01:21.07 | mxktmdude | git.android.com doesnt load for me for some reason, timesout |
| 01:21.14 | PITABoy | I dont want to be waiting for 2 weeks |
| 01:21.35 | PITABoy | you need the http version |
| 01:21.36 | swetland | looks good from here. load avg on the box is 0.02 |
| 01:21.39 | Zoolooc_ | heck, ar these google groups also readable in a straight news reader? |
| 01:21.54 | swetland | dunno about newsreader but you can subscribe to the groups stuff like a regular mailing list |
| 01:22.02 | swetland | and skip the web stuff entirely |
| 01:22.06 | cr2_ | hm. it seems ati has changed the sysclk register bit layout. |
| 01:22.10 | PITABoy | http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2007-November/043153.html <-- that is the anouncement with both links |
| 01:22.49 | Zoolooc_ | well, that's why I prefer newsreader, to not get the whole traffic as emails, but jsut read what I'm klicking on the header, only faster than via browser |
| 01:23.18 | PITABoy | swetland how do you suggest that I download the patches?? |
| 01:23.38 | PITABoy | git clone git://git.android.com/linux-msm.git |
| 01:23.56 | PITABoy | or is there another faster way |
| 01:24.01 | swetland | that should work |
| 01:24.31 | PITABoy | it is taking forever |
| 01:24.45 | swetland | http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=snapshot;h=6230922501b6053e99b42edc7b20ea4f356be67e;sf=tgz will get you a tgz of the head of the tree (click the snapshot link in the log view), but if you get the whole repo, pulling updates will be much faster in the future |
| 01:25.18 | PITABoy | Indexing 617607 objects... |
| 01:25.18 | PITABoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.00 | PITABoy | is this the whole freaking kernel or just the patches |
| 01:26.01 | Zoolooc_ | swetland, could you please tell me the exact target name of the toolchain I'd like to generate to compile this stuff? |
| 01:26.22 | PITABoy | btw I have been downloading for like 20 mins already |
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| 01:28.21 | swetland | zoolooc: I'd use whatever 4.x arm toolchain you'd like. shouldn't matter. |
| 01:28.42 | PITABoy | also considereding that there must be thousands of patches is there a script that will patch them all |
| 01:28.57 | cr2_ | swetland: what is the config name ? i'll try to compile too :) |
| 01:29.09 | swetland | there are about 30 patches |
| 01:29.14 | swetland | http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=shortlog |
| 01:29.18 | PITABoy | is a 4.x toolchain required |
| 01:29.36 | swetland | cr2_ halibut_defconfig is for the surf eval board. it should be a good starting point |
| 01:30.05 | swetland | I've only used 4.x. if 3.x can build arm kernels, I expect it'd work here, but have not used it in ages myself. |
| 01:30.21 | PITABoy | ok |
| 01:30.43 | PITABoy | do you know where I can get a 4.x binary toolchain |
| 01:31.14 | swetland | just fyi, these trees will be changing a bit over the next few weeks as we react to feedback from the mailing list, etc |
| 01:33.06 | cr2_ | PATH=~/stuff/tmp/cross/bin/:$PATH ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- make -j 4 |
| 01:33.15 | cr2_ | seems to work :) |
| 01:33.46 | PITABoy | that just flew over my head |
| 01:34.00 | PITABoy | did you just say that you sucessfully built this kernel |
| 01:34.11 | cr2_ | not yet finished. |
| 01:34.27 | Zoolooc_ | is glibc what you want (don't know if it matter for the kernel itself though, guess not, but after that?)? |
| 01:34.32 | PITABoy | what toolchain are you using and where can I download it |
| 01:35.35 | cr2_ | kernel does not use libc |
| 01:35.53 | cr2_ | PITABoy: it's the OE toolchain for angstrom |
| 01:36.11 | PITABoy | http://gnuarm.org/gcc-4.2.0.tar.bz2 <-- is that an arm toolchain? |
| 01:37.32 | PITABoy | or is it just the source? |
| 01:37.42 | Zoolooc_ | cr2_: then I at least remembered correctly. but what about userspace stuff after that, you're going to use glibc? |
| 01:38.03 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 01:38.11 | cr2_ | PITABoy: don't know. |
| 01:38.17 | PITABoy | oh |
| 01:38.21 | cr2_ | wow. the kernel is 4MB |
| 01:38.32 | PITABoy | is is 42 megs I am guessing that it is the toolchain |
| 01:38.50 | cr2_ | 4MB compressed, 19MB uncompressed |
| 01:38.58 | PITABoy | 4mb aint bad for a kernel |
| 01:39.28 | PITABoy | i'm assuming that you built in all of the drivers (no modules) |
| 01:39.49 | PITABoy | 19mb is going to take haret forever to load |
| 01:39.54 | cr2_ | i used the default config |
| 01:40.03 | cr2_ | haret loads 4MB |
| 01:40.12 | PITABoy | oh |
| 01:40.22 | PITABoy | are you booting now?? |
| 01:40.33 | PITABoy | if so what device |
| 01:40.34 | cr2_ | ? |
| 01:40.49 | cr2_ | just cross-compiled the kernel. |
| 01:40.58 | cr2_ | i don't have msm7x00 devices. |
| 01:41.27 | PITABoy | upload it somewhere |
| 01:42.57 | swetland | you're going to run into problems with the interrupt controller on 7200, which is different than on 7200A. |
| 01:43.29 | PITABoy | i have a 7500 |
| 01:44.23 | cr2_ | PITABoy: and you need the vsfb driver for your LCD to make it work right now. |
| 01:44.40 | PITABoy | i know |
| 01:45.10 | PITABoy | my dumps say that it has a samsong hitachi unknown etc but it initializes the hitachi |
| 01:46.42 | PITABoy | cool the git respository is a prepatched kernel :-D |
| 01:48.13 | PITABoy | Arr Matey! A Hairy Bilge Rat! |
| 01:49.29 | cr2_ | it' the bootloader that says 'samsong hitachi unknown' |
| 01:49.33 | cr2_ | it's the full list |
| 01:49.41 | PITABoy | oh |
| 01:50.06 | PITABoy | well it initalizes the hitachi so does that mean that it uses a hitachi lcd? |
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| 01:53.47 | cr2_ | yes |
| 01:55.54 | PITABoy | so in theroy all I should have to do is build the hitachi drivers into the kernel? |
| 01:56.57 | Zoolooc_ | swetland: waht about this 7200A, which one do I have on the kaiser? |
| 01:58.51 | PITABoy | are you sure I thought that the kaiser had the 7200 not the 7200A |
| 01:59.26 | PITABoy | what is eabi??? |
| 02:01.45 | PITABoy | embedded application binary interface |
| 02:02.00 | PITABoy | is it important |
| 02:02.35 | PITABoy | what is the difference between arm-linux-gcceabi and arm-linux-gcc? |
| 02:03.19 | Zoolooc_ | the abi changed for arm architecture to eabi |
| 02:03.40 | PITABoy | so eabi is current and should be used? |
| 02:04.01 | Zoolooc_ | the old one is deprecated, and the toolchains are named differently to distinguish between them |
| 02:05.21 | PITABoy | oh |
| 02:06.46 | PITABoy | so this kernel looks like you pretty much have to use the msm7200a as your processor type no 7500 7400 7300 or regular 7200 |
| 02:07.28 | Zoolooc_ | you mean on the kaiser? what are the differences? |
| 02:07.46 | Zoolooc_ | is there a default configuration in those sources? |
| 02:08.42 | swetland | halibut_defconfig (7200A eval board) |
| 02:09.42 | Zoolooc_ | after building the kernel, what should I get, this haret thing from sourceforge? |
| 02:10.13 | Zoolooc_ | anyway, will go to spleep very soon and let my desktop build the cross-toolchain |
| 02:10.32 | Zoolooc_ | but when I wake up, I won't find you guys aroud here :-) |
| 02:14.20 | PITABoy | no no no |
| 02:14.23 | PITABoy | listen to me |
| 02:14.30 | PITABoy | get haret from here ... |
| 02:15.17 | PITABoy | http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071029d.exe |
| 02:15.44 | PITABoy | it supports the msm7500 that is the only msm that it supports afaik |
| 02:16.04 | PITABoy | but they are exactly the same except for the gsm/cdma thing |
| 02:16.19 | PITABoy | btw that is the newest haret |
| 02:16.59 | Zoolooc_ | it's a sort of bootloader a la loadlin.exe some years ago? :-) |
| 02:19.36 | Zoolooc_ | hey it's snowing... |
| 02:22.36 | Zoolooc_ | mv /me /dev/bed |
| 02:22.43 | Zoolooc_ | cu guys |
| 02:23.35 | PITABoy | lol |
| 02:23.37 | PITABoy | cool |
| 02:26.51 | PITABoy | mv /dev/idle/me /dev/hacking/me |
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| 02:39.51 | PITABoy | mxktmdude I am building the kernel with a lot more drivers than the default kernel config |
| 02:40.38 | mxktmdude | howcome |
| 02:40.39 | PITABoy | I have all of the wireless drivers known to man and most of the lcd drivers |
| 02:41.27 | PITABoy | because too many drivers cant hurt anything it can only give us a better chance of having the right on in the kernl |
| 02:41.30 | PITABoy | kernel* |
| 02:41.59 | PITABoy | the only negative is that posible the kernel will be slower and take longer to boot |
| 02:42.24 | PITABoy | but once we get it booting and find out what drivers are being used we can remove the rest |
| 02:42.46 | mxktmdude | sounds goof |
| 02:42.48 | mxktmdude | good |
| 02:42.50 | mxktmdude | hehe |
| 02:44.06 | PITABoy | yup |
| 02:44.13 | mxktmdude | back in a bit, i need to get files off my laptop and reinstall linux.. using the computer in the living room is killing my neck |
| 02:46.41 | PITABoy | ok |
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| 02:52.11 | PITABoy | bad news |
| 02:53.24 | PITABoy | but nothing that a little googleing cant fix |
| 02:56.02 | PITABoy | well google didnt fix it but always remember when building a kernel and it crashes always run a "make clean" before retrying |
| 02:59.30 | PITABoy | weird |
| 02:59.52 | PITABoy | I keep getting an error arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o:(.data+0xf50): undefined reference to `gpio_event_matrix_func' |
| 03:01.43 | PITABoy | any ideas?? |
| 03:06.42 | swetland | does your kernel config have INPUT_GPIO? |
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| 03:10.08 | PITABoy | i will look |
| 03:10.46 | PITABoy | it says no |
| 03:10.53 | PITABoy | I am assuming that I need it |
| 03:13.04 | PITABoy | am I correct? and if so where do I enable it I already did an / INPUT_GPIO |
| 03:13.23 | PITABoy | it tells me that it has to do with mice and keyboards but I cant find it |
| 03:14.05 | PITABoy | I think that I found it |
| 03:15.04 | PITABoy | i did find it |
| 03:16.04 | PITABoy | cool kernel is being gzipped as we speak |
| 03:16.45 | PITABoy | swetland did you help make the new msm kernel? you seem to know a lot about |
| 03:16.48 | PITABoy | it |
| 03:17.11 | PITABoy | mxktmdude I'm about to boot the kernel wish me luck |
| 03:17.49 | swetland | I'm the kernel lead for the project |
| 03:19.55 | PITABoy | cool |
| 03:21.44 | PITABoy | so Qualcomm only gave you the msm7200A |
| 03:22.45 | PITABoy | Anyone want to place bets will it boot on a msm7500 |
| 03:23.12 | swetland | I'd put good money on it hanging during clock calibration due to differences in the irq controller |
| 03:23.22 | mxktmdude | i have my fingers crossed! |
| 03:23.58 | PITABoy | well I just want to see tux that is good enough for me right now |
| 03:24.08 | PITABoy | I just opened haret |
| 03:24.16 | PITABoy | I am about to press run |
| 03:24.21 | PITABoy | I am so excited |
| 03:24.24 | PITABoy | here I go |
| 03:24.42 | PITABoy | what ... |
| 03:24.53 | PITABoy | nada |
| 03:24.58 | PITABoy | wait one sec |
| 03:25.07 | PITABoy | I am going to change my haret config |
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| 03:25.45 | PITABoy | then if that doesnt work I will build a kernel with the default config and try that |
| 03:26.26 | PITABoy | mxktmdude cross all of your fingers and toes this time |
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| 03:27.49 | PITABoy | man this sucks my screen doesn't even get past haret not garbled not blank just plain old haret |
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| 03:28.31 | PITABoy | however nothing works not even the power button |
| 03:28.53 | PITABoy | soft reset button works thou :-P |
| 03:29.02 | mxktmdude | wow |
| 03:29.24 | mxktmdude | so is there some way to figure out how far it got in the process |
| 03:30.03 | PITABoy | swetland might know or cr2_ but I don't |
| 03:30.14 | PITABoy | unless it is in my haret logs |
| 03:30.16 | swetland | you'll want to get DEBUG_LL and a serial port working probably (if there's an exposed serial port) |
| 03:30.30 | swetland | this phase of boot is a massive pain in the ass to debug |
| 03:30.52 | PITABoy | that is what I figured |
| 03:31.10 | PITABoy | No external serial port just usb ir or wifi |
| 03:32.04 | PITABoy | is there a way to do serial over usb? |
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| 03:33.44 | PITABoy | something interesting that I dont remember doing |
| 03:34.24 | PITABoy | it looks like someone (i guess me) logged in and kept typing addlist gpios |
| 03:34.29 | PITABoy | over and over again |
| 03:34.40 | PITABoy | the log is really really long too |
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| 03:39.03 | mxktmdude | does haret make a logfile during boot? or what log are you reading? |
| 03:39.19 | PITABoy | yes if you set it up that way |
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| 03:39.50 | PITABoy | but I realized that haret is just trying to take over the system so that it can load the kernel |
| 03:41.05 | PITABoy | make an empty file named earlyharetlog.txt and put it in the dir with haret and your kernel and stuff and it will start spitting out a file called haretlog.txt everytime you run it |
| 03:49.11 | PITABoy | swetland |
| 03:49.37 | PITABoy | is it possible to get my msm device to dump everything to the usb interface when I boot linux |
| 03:49.49 | PITABoy | so like a usb debug port? |
| 03:51.58 | swetland | anything's possible. that'd be a bunch of work though. |
| 03:52.27 | PITABoy | oh |
| 03:52.44 | PITABoy | I was hopeing that it would be a simple kernel module |
| 03:56.35 | ellisway | in the past with the pxa stuff ir was used for a serial console |
| 03:56.51 | PITABoy | cool |
| 03:57.04 | PITABoy | tobad I dont have an ir receiver or wait... |
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| 04:03.59 | PITABoy | my laptop has an ir port |
| 04:06.58 | PITABoy | swetland do you know if the kernel for the msm can write to a sd card? |
| 04:07.18 | PITABoy | if so I'm sure that there is something in the kernel that will make a debug txt |
| 04:09.48 | swetland | SD support isn't in yet. I suspect you're running into problems *very* early in boot where writing to a filesystem, etc is not going to be very useful |
| 04:10.24 | PITABoy | oh |
| 04:10.57 | PITABoy | if only i could get a spark of hope |
| 04:11.52 | mxktmdude | does haret keep the telnet port open during boot or does the kernel take over complete control? |
| 04:12.07 | PITABoy | the kernel takes over |
| 04:12.23 | PITABoy | it loads the kernel kills windows and boots the kernel |
| 04:12.32 | PITABoy | but I could try and see what happens |
| 04:15.49 | PITABoy | well this is weird |
| 04:16.24 | PITABoy | my computer just picked up my titan via ir but i didnt even know it was active on my phone |
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| 04:22.03 | PITABoy | mcktmdude |
| 04:22.29 | PITABoy | the moment of truth will the telnet session tell me anything while I boot the kernel |
| 04:24.44 | PITABoy | btw I am issueing the commands from the telnet session instead of the default.txt |
| 04:24.53 | PITABoy | here we go I'm about to run boot |
| 04:24.53 | mxktmdude | does the phone just lock up completely PITABoy? nothing happens on screen? |
| 04:26.05 | PITABoy | well this time I didnt even get the loading bar but the telnet session hasnt dropped its connection wait it just did |
| 04:26.22 | PITABoy | so I'm assuming the the kernel just booted! |
| 04:26.50 | mxktmdude | loading bar? |
| 04:26.51 | PITABoy | the phone is at the haret home screen |
| 04:27.04 | PITABoy | progress bar like when coping files except when haret loads a kernel |
| 04:27.19 | PITABoy | so now I have linux "booted" |
| 04:27.44 | PITABoy | i will try and see if i can telnet it or IR connect or anything |
| 04:28.05 | mxktmdude | so it dropped the previous connection |
| 04:28.07 | PITABoy | I found a way to find out if the kernel booted |
| 04:28.10 | PITABoy | yes |
| 04:28.50 | PITABoy | I had my phone plugged in to do a telnet session so the orange led was on saying that it was charging |
| 04:29.04 | PITABoy | well I unplugged the cord and it is still on |
| 04:29.29 | PITABoy | even though this means that it is unresponsive it means that windows isnt running anymore |
| 04:29.55 | PITABoy | just for kicks lets try typing on the keyboard and see if anything happens |
| 04:30.48 | PITABoy | that just gave me an Idea I compiled in all of the wireless modules |
| 04:31.30 | PITABoy | I know that swetland said that it probably isnt getting far but if i turn that on before I boot maybe linux will boot far enough to load the module |
| 04:31.56 | PITABoy | if so we might be able to get it to connect |
| 04:32.05 | mxktmdude | or maybe its crashing trying to load one of the modules? |
| 04:32.29 | PITABoy | as linux default failsafe for net interfaces is dhcp |
| 04:32.36 | PITABoy | that is unlikely |
| 04:32.45 | mxktmdude | what if you tried compiling a kernel with just the absolute needed ones and see if that still crashes |
| 04:32.54 | PITABoy | when linux crashes loading a module it just moves on to the next one |
| 04:33.11 | PITABoy | i will try that in about 5-10 mins |
| 04:33.28 | PITABoy | i still want to see if i can get the wifi working and or usb network |
| 04:33.36 | mxktmdude | even if the module is the one causing the lockup though? |
| 04:33.45 | PITABoy | OMG!!!! |
| 04:33.50 | PITABoy | huge breakthrough |
| 04:33.56 | mxktmdude | lol |
| 04:34.04 | PITABoy | does anyone know how to debug on windows |
| 04:34.18 | PITABoy | this is monumental |
| 04:34.25 | PITABoy | I plugged the usb back in |
| 04:34.38 | mxktmdude | what hapen? |
| 04:34.42 | PITABoy | and what do you know ... Windows says Found USB device |
| 04:34.56 | PITABoy | USB Device Not Reconized |
| 04:34.58 | mxktmdude | hmm |
| 04:35.14 | mxktmdude | could this mean that the usb module loaded? |
| 04:35.22 | PITABoy | I think so |
| 04:35.55 | PITABoy | I was reading that if you load windows in vmware that you can debug the usb interfaces and see what they are doing |
| 04:36.18 | PITABoy | so if we can debug the usb somehow we might get somewhere |
| 04:36.36 | PITABoy | however I would like to debug in windows without vmware |
| 04:36.52 | PITABoy | much easier for me as I cant put linux on my laptop |
| 04:37.06 | mxktmdude | hmm makes me curious,,,, what if you plugged the device into a linux box.. would something appear in /var/log/messages? |
| 04:37.25 | PITABoy | probably will check in like 2 mins |
| 04:37.36 | PITABoy | I clicked on windows error message |
| 04:37.43 | mxktmdude | might give more info than the windows message |
| 04:37.47 | PITABoy | true |
| 04:38.25 | PITABoy | windows says that the device is a USB controler and that it is standard location 0 (USB device) |
| 04:38.34 | PITABoy | no drivers installed |
| 04:38.40 | PITABoy | so ... |
| 04:38.57 | PITABoy | it would be really cool if all we needed was some makeshift driver |
| 04:39.16 | PITABoy | then maybe we could send low level commands to it like gpio 0 on |
| 04:39.21 | PITABoy | gpio 2 off |
| 04:39.34 | PITABoy | possibly changing the leds or screen |
| 04:40.00 | PITABoy | I know that when i am telneted to haret I can turn the screen on and off |
| 04:40.20 | PITABoy | ok about 2 more mins with windows then I will plug it into linux |
| 04:40.56 | mxktmdude | how do you do that in haret? |
| 04:41.04 | PITABoy | i forgot :-/ |
| 04:41.21 | PITABoy | but it is in the help file i think |
| 04:41.43 | PITABoy | i will find it after we finish looking for all possible info on this usb thing |
| 04:42.22 | PITABoy | omg!! again |
| 04:42.24 | PITABoy | more info |
| 04:42.25 | PITABoy | ... |
| 04:42.35 | PITABoy | i went to system from control panel |
| 04:42.42 | PITABoy | then went to device manager |
| 04:42.52 | PITABoy | then usb devices then unknown |
| 04:43.01 | PITABoy | then details pane |
| 04:43.28 | PITABoy | i have some device instance id and a heck of a lot of other options that i can look at |
| 04:44.13 | PITABoy | do you know much about windows |
| 04:44.24 | PITABoy | i have 3 devnode flags |
| 04:44.35 | mxktmdude | no idea what devnodes are |
| 04:44.35 | PITABoy | dn_disableenable |
| 04:44.47 | PITABoy | DN_nt_enumerator |
| 04:44.56 | PITABoy | DN_nt_driver |
| 04:45.12 | PITABoy | look at a usb device under details and see what it says about it |
| 04:45.51 | mxktmdude | i dont have a windows machine at the moment |
| 04:45.55 | PITABoy | oh |
| 04:45.55 | mxktmdude | but im googling |
| 04:46.03 | PITABoy | it says the power state is D3 |
| 04:46.08 | PITABoy | i wonder what that means |
| 04:46.25 | mxktmdude | is all that info in a text box or something |
| 04:46.54 | PITABoy | not a txt box |
| 04:47.02 | mxktmdude | if could copy paste that all to something and how you got it,,, might be useful who knows, buit then other poeple could read t |
| 04:47.05 | mxktmdude | it |
| 04:47.33 | PITABoy | it has a drop down menu with like 30 options some are blank some are bringing up the stuff that I am saying |
| 04:48.17 | PITABoy | http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6142_102-0.html?forumID=5&threadID=231840&messageID=2393622 |
| 04:48.19 | ellisway | does it give a vendor id / device id |
| 04:48.25 | PITABoy | i think so |
| 04:48.37 | PITABoy | device instance id |
| 04:49.43 | PITABoy | USB\VID_0000&PID0000\5&206E4473&0&2 |
| 04:50.18 | PITABoy | hardware ids |
| 04:50.27 | PITABoy | USB\UNKNOWN |
| 04:50.38 | PITABoy | maybe you should transfer this to the wiki |
| 04:50.54 | PITABoy | compatible ids |
| 04:51.03 | PITABoy | USB\UNKNOWN |
| 04:51.14 | PITABoy | matching device id |
| 04:51.20 | PITABoy | usb\unknown |
| 04:51.24 | ellisway | vid is the vendor id in your case its currently blank |
| 04:51.26 | PITABoy | that one is lowercase |
| 04:51.42 | PITABoy | enumerator |
| 04:51.44 | PITABoy | USB |
| 04:51.58 | PITABoy | i already told you the devnode flags |
| 04:53.07 | PITABoy | http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_dm.htm has a list of all the properties of the device that you can see in win xp |
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| 05:13.10 | PITABoy | Hello world |
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| 05:53.32 | PITABoy | what is a usermode driver? |
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| 06:04.45 | PITABoy | mxktmdude |
| 06:04.59 | PITABoy | some of the windows debuggers give too much information |
| 06:05.07 | PITABoy | i have no idea what it all means |
| 06:10.24 | PITABoy | in the windows debugger my phone shows up as 4 unknown usb devuces |
| 06:10.29 | PITABoy | devices* |
| 06:10.49 | PITABoy | however one of the descriptions is usb device |
| 06:13.07 | PITABoy | i just unplugged the us device |
| 06:13.27 | PITABoy | and plugged it back in then uninstalled it unplugged it and plugged it back in |
| 06:14.02 | PITABoy | now windows says installed new hardware "Unknown Device" your hardware is ready to use |
| 06:14.24 | mxktmdude | hey i found more info on the device |
| 06:14.34 | PITABoy | where |
| 06:14.36 | PITABoy | how |
| 06:14.39 | mxktmdude | one sec |
| 06:16.10 | PITABoy | If i could find out which com port the usb is on i could send lowlevel commands to it using a program called comtest |
| 06:17.23 | mxktmdude | our dcc chat died i think |
| 06:18.06 | PITABoy | yeah it timed out |
| 06:18.10 | PITABoy | you were gone forever |
| 06:19.33 | PITABoy | so what is this more info that you found |
| 06:19.35 | mxktmdude | ive been here the whole time |
| 06:19.38 | mxktmdude | thats odd |
| 06:19.53 | PITABoy | yeah but you didnt talk which i think is why it timed out |
| 06:20.09 | mxktmdude | http://titanux.lwp.ca/wiki/index.php/Titan_USB |
| 06:20.39 | mxktmdude | i did talk i had a whole bunch of interesting stuff come up lol |
| 06:21.04 | PITABoy | really |
| 06:21.17 | PITABoy | i havent gotten any messeges for like 45 mins |
| 06:22.30 | mxktmdude | thats odd |
| 06:23.04 | mxktmdude | so thats the vendor id of the phone |
| 06:23.16 | PITABoy | yeah htc |
| 06:23.31 | mxktmdude | Bus 003 Device 008: ID 0bb4:0b04 High Tech Computer Corp. |
| 06:25.40 | PITABoy | yes that is who makes the phone |
| 06:26.36 | mxktmdude | is it the usb module in the kernel that reads that info, or the kernel itself? |
| 06:27.21 | PITABoy | the info you got is from lsusb |
| 06:27.29 | PITABoy | it is part of usbutils |
| 06:27.36 | mxktmdude | yeah |
| 06:27.49 | mxktmdude | and another program, usbview |
| 06:27.52 | PITABoy | the info is like a mac address |
| 06:27.59 | PITABoy | burned into the hardware |
| 06:28.40 | PITABoy | join this channel #titanux |
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| 07:45.43 | mxktmdude | can anyone tell me how to watch gpios on titan using haret? i cant find any examples of actually using haret |
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| 08:00.22 | Zoolooc__ | good morning |
| 08:06.32 | mxktmdude | good morning |
| 08:09.44 | mxktmdude | Zoolooc__, do you know how to user haret and watch gpios |
| 08:09.50 | mxktmdude | user=use |
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| 08:22.19 | Zoolooc__ | never did that, but I might try. now I have a crosscompiler and the git kernel also cloned locally, so I might just crosscompile it and try something |
| 08:23.30 | Zoolooc__ | right now I'm trying to catch up with the talk in here while I was sleeping, anything important? |
| 08:25.42 | mxktmdude | im just a newb so.. lol at the moment im not to sure what the good stuff is |
| 08:25.46 | mxktmdude | ;) |
| 08:26.04 | mxktmdude | only been around for a couple days and trying to learn haret |
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| 10:08.59 | Zoolooc | wtf is wrong with halibut_defconfig, it cant be loaded? |
| 10:22.27 | swetland | ? |
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| 11:28.34 | goxboxlive | Yeahhaa mp3 playback working in Qtopia :-) |
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| 12:50.01 | Zoolooc | svetland: it was my fault, didn't set env correctly in the make menuconfig call |
| 12:50.25 | Zoolooc | err, meant swetland |
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| 12:55.37 | Zoolooc | hello BabelO |
| 12:56.10 | BabelO | hi Zoolooc |
| 12:57.37 | Zoolooc | just cross-compiled the msm kernel, with the default halibut config, do you think it would be worth trying to boot it on the kaiser? |
| 12:59.28 | BabelO | you need some more info, but if it is as omap850 then you can keep its base adress, wait for cr2_ or look at wiki msm |
| 13:00.02 | Zoolooc | where is this wiki? |
| 13:01.42 | Zoolooc | of course I don't want to try anything I'm not feeling comfortable with, and wait if needed, but sure I want to read myself if there already is some valuable info, as I'm pretty new to these kind of things |
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| 13:26.36 | kiozen | hi |
| 13:28.09 | BabelO | Zoolooc: wiki have nothing more, wait for cr2_ it can tell base addess maybe |
| 13:28.13 | BabelO | vi kiozen |
| 13:28.37 | kiozen | BabelO: you can't edit me :) |
| 13:28.48 | kiozen | I am read only |
| 13:29.07 | BabelO | lol |
| 13:29.14 | BabelO | ~man vi |
| 13:29.17 | apt | No manual entry for vi |
| 13:29.33 | Zoolooc | lol, and would you let yourself be edited of all editors with vi ? |
| 13:30.07 | BabelO | kiozen: did you try my image ? |
| 13:30.07 | kiozen | no, vim is lowest level |
| 13:30.20 | kiozen | currently copying to SD ram |
| 13:31.09 | BabelO | ok |
| 13:34.09 | kiozen | BabelO: can't tar xvfz Angstrom-HTC_BlueAngel-Roadmap-4.3.0.tar.gz |
| 13:34.18 | kiozen | no gzip format |
| 13:34.33 | BabelO | xvjf sorry |
| 13:34.40 | kiozen | a bz2 |
| 13:34.42 | BabelO | file on this file ? |
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| 13:39.28 | BabelO | kiozen: do you use an ide for qlandkarte ? |
| 13:40.28 | kiozen | kdevelop |
| 13:42.07 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, actually i help some devlopper on monkeystudioV2, look ver nice, and multiplateforme :) |
| 13:50.51 | kiozen | BabelO: black screen with "Init: no more processes left in this runlevel" |
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| 13:54.41 | BabelO | kiozen: yes normal, wait a little |
| 13:54.49 | kiozen | ok |
| 13:54.50 | BabelO | first init is long |
| 13:54.58 | BabelO | else you can ssh into it |
| 13:55.10 | BabelO | do you edit qpe file before ? |
| 13:55.34 | kiozen | no |
| 13:58.37 | BabelO | kiozen: di it boot now ? |
| 13:58.51 | kiozen | still black screen |
| 13:59.23 | BabelO | ok then ssh to it edit qpe file and try to start by ahnd |
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| 14:03.49 | kiozen | waht was theBabelO: guess I have to edit the display mouse and keyboard settings |
| 14:04.12 | kiozen | grmh BabelO: guess I have to edit the display mouse and keyboard setting |
| 14:04.27 | BabelO | kiozen: yes |
| 14:04.40 | BabelO | and for keyboard, few seconds |
| 14:04.41 | BabelO | wait |
| 14:09.38 | BabelO | kiozen: QWS_KEYBOARD="htcbuthandler:/dev/input/event1,GPIO" |
| 14:09.48 | BabelO | i think with that button should work |
| 14:10.27 | BabelO | kiozen: QWS_MOUSE_PROTO=tslib:/dev/input/event0 , but you know :) |
| 14:16.41 | kiozen | BabelO: "qpe start" still without any result |
| 14:16.49 | kiozen | no error message, no gui |
| 14:17.23 | BabelO | kiozen: else try to set all export from this file to your current ssh |
| 14:17.31 | BabelO | then qpe on command line, more verbose |
| 14:20.01 | kiozen | BabelO: http://pastebin.ca/769519 |
| 14:22.43 | BabelO | kiozen: i think i know why |
| 14:22.54 | BabelO | kiozen: kill hciattach and irattach process |
| 14:24.03 | kiozen | don't have hciattach and irattach |
| 14:25.03 | BabelO | kiozen: you activate vnc ? |
| 14:25.55 | kiozen | no vnc process |
| 14:26.28 | BabelO | Kido you have this one ? export QWS_DISPLAY=LinuxFb:Transformed:mmWidth53:mmHeight71 |
| 14:26.36 | BabelO | or like that |
| 14:27.09 | kiozen | I do: export QWS_DISPLAY="VNC:Transformed:LinuxFb:mmWidth54:mmHeight75:Rot0" |
| 14:27.24 | BabelO | ah ok |
| 14:27.54 | BabelO | strange all seem to be ok |
| 14:28.12 | BabelO | do you have a sound module loaded ? |
| 14:28.59 | kiozen | haven't loaded any module, lsmod is empty |
| 14:30.25 | BabelO | ok so i don't know, this is strange, this image boot fine on BA and universal |
| 14:30.25 | BabelO | last thing is strace qpe |
| 14:32.23 | kiozen | some statfs64(umovestr: Input/output error |
| 14:34.24 | BabelO | kiozen: do you set qtopia phone variables to no ? these on are required |
| 14:34.48 | kiozen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.48 | kiozen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.48 | kiozen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.57 | kiozen | should I set them to yes |
| 14:35.44 | BabelO | no should be ok too, there is something wrong in the boot process, i setsome app in /etc/init.d/local |
| 14:35.53 | BabelO | but they are not running :( |
| 14:36.46 | kiozen | I have to get used to openembedded, the toolchain and qtopia installation anyway |
| 14:36.57 | kiozen | I try to make my own package |
| 14:37.24 | BabelO | ok |
| 14:44.00 | dcordes | which day was the google guy here? |
| 14:46.17 | kiozen | BabelO: what is your BBMASK in build/conf/local.conf& |
| 14:47.19 | kiozen | or better: can you pastebin your build/conf/local.conf |
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| 14:53.06 | goxboxlive | hi Babel |
| 14:53.09 | goxboxlive | there? |
| 14:53.21 | goxboxlive | or Babel0 or whatever? |
| 14:53.29 | Babel | goxboxlive: yes |
| 14:54.00 | goxboxlive | Babel: am i not allowed to upload Qtopia images with helix integrated? |
| 14:54.20 | Babel | don t know :( |
| 14:54.34 | Babel | is it working for you ? |
| 14:54.38 | goxboxlive | someone told me that. I have tp ask ljp then when he arives |
| 14:55.00 | goxboxlive | That's stupid, if am not able to upload. |
| 14:56.47 | goxboxlive | Babel: yes even video playback works with universal. Havent tested on magician yet |
| 14:59.10 | Babel | goxboxlive: ok , then something failed on my build :( |
| 14:59.48 | Babel | goxboxlive: you rebuild all from scratch, or just qtopia ? |
| 14:59.59 | Babel | did you use fic settings ? |
| 15:02.17 | Babel | ~ping BabelO |
| 15:02.17 | apt | pong BabelO |
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| 15:16.49 | goxboxlive | Babel: i just rebuilded qtopia. But system sounds failes now. |
| 15:17.26 | goxboxlive | Babel: yes fic settings |
| 15:48.56 | BabelO | kiozen: is QLAndkarte able to ope rus file ? |
| 15:49.14 | kiozen | no, just img |
| 15:49.31 | BabelO | :( |
| 15:49.58 | kiozen | sorry ;) it was intended to be a MapSource replacement |
| 15:50.08 | cr2_ | hi |
| 15:50.14 | BabelO | kiozen: pl |
| 15:50.17 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 15:50.23 | BabelO | kiozen: ok |
| 15:50.24 | kiozen | never expected to end up here |
| 15:50.28 | cr2_ | just reading the last lines |
| 15:50.47 | cr2_ | BabelO: why don't you convert rus into .mp ? |
| 15:51.00 | BabelO | cr2_: how ? |
| 15:51.08 | cr2_ | breaking .rus just does not make sense. |
| 15:51.13 | cr2_ | gpsmapedit ? |
| 15:51.58 | cr2_ | kiozen: what was the boot problem with haret ? |
| 15:52.20 | kiozen | mounting the SD card |
| 15:52.32 | kiozen | and sometimes init fails right from the begining |
| 15:52.44 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 15:52.52 | cr2_ | do you have rootdelay ? |
| 15:52.58 | kiozen | yes 10 |
| 15:53.15 | cr2_ | 10 may be an overrkill, but ok. |
| 15:53.22 | cr2_ | do you have wifi on ? |
| 15:53.26 | cr2_ | while booting ? |
| 15:53.58 | kiozen | no |
| 15:54.05 | kiozen | Haret boot |
| 15:54.05 | kiozen | shutting down hardware |
| 15:54.05 | kiozen | Turning ogg MMU... |
| 15:54.20 | kiozen | that is the one problem, needs hard reset |
| 15:54.56 | cr2_ | ok, if you switch wifi on, does something change ? |
| 15:55.28 | cr2_ | BabelO: i've realized yesterday at 4:00 that i don't apply the SD power :) |
| 15:57.00 | kiozen | cr2_: no "unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0)" |
| 15:57.37 | cr2_ | 2,0 ? |
| 15:57.55 | cr2_ | what is your cmdline ? |
| 15:58.24 | cr2_ | 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 2, 0 8. Nov 15:58 ptyp0 |
| 15:58.46 | cr2_ | hm. sorry. block dev |
| 15:58.50 | cr2_ | 0 brw-rw----+ 1 root disk 2, 0 8. Nov 15:58 fd0 |
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| 15:59.08 | kiozen | on the device? |
| 15:59.25 | BabelO | cr2_: so it works now ? ;) |
| 15:59.25 | cr2_ | for the kernel in haret |
| 16:00.00 | cr2_ | BabelO: no, i need setup the CPLD gpios. btw, you too :) on artemis. we have the same problem. |
| 16:00.51 | cr2_ | kiozen: i'll add n560 into haret, and will rebuild the n560 kernel. so you'll boot my .exe |
| 16:01.09 | kiozen | set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0 rootdelay=10" |
| 16:01.39 | cr2_ | kiozen: strange that it tries 2,0 |
| 16:02.14 | cr2_ | BabelO: artemis has g4 mdoc ? |
| 16:02.17 | kiozen | if I get "unknown partition table on mmcblk0 " it will boot after 10 sec |
| 16:04.14 | BabelO | cr2_: we need a picture of internal artemis |
| 16:05.16 | cr2_ | kiozen: if this message bothers you, partition the SD card with 1 partition, and use /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 16:05.36 | cr2_ | BabelO: why ? |
| 16:06.00 | kiozen | no it doesen't bother me, because when I see it, the device will boot, if I can't see it th edevice will fail |
| 16:06.08 | BabelO | to know component like mdoc , ts and other |
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| 16:06.34 | cr2_ | BabelO: you can see it in the rom/ram |
| 16:07.19 | Zoolooc | hi cr2_ |
| 16:07.35 | cr2_ | BabelO: btw, i've traced the SD on athena, and it really starts with CMD5. as it should per spec. |
| 16:07.43 | cr2_ | hi Zoolooc |
| 16:08.15 | cr2_ | BabelO: i've extended the ATIDBG support in haret |
| 16:08.47 | cr2_ | evil ati has changed the register bit layout |
| 16:09.45 | cr2_ | so it'll be only possible to save 2 register configs (portrait/landscape) and write them at init. |
| 16:10.49 | cr2_ | BabelO: are there any 'ev' tools in your image ? how can kiozen check the button keycodes ? |
| 16:11.04 | cr2_ | there was evtest or something like that. |
| 16:11.32 | cr2_ | kiozen: can you connect n560 with running haret to inet, and mail me the address ? |
| 16:11.37 | BabelO | no, i just add trace to plugin button handler |
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| 16:12.11 | kiozen | how? |
| 16:12.57 | cr2_ | BabelO: http://game-sat.com/~brian/Howtos/evtest.c |
| 16:13.14 | BabelO | kiozen: with ssh tunneling |
| 16:13.51 | kiozen | how to setup? |
| 16:14.01 | cr2_ | kiozen: it depends on your inet setup. some days ago i've logged into Hymie's treo750 in Canada over umts. |
| 16:14.14 | kiozen | dsl router |
| 16:14.32 | cr2_ | hm. ok. |
| 16:15.11 | kiozen | fritzbox, nothing fancy |
| 16:16.04 | cr2_ | BabelO: is evtest included into some .ipk ? |
| 16:16.14 | BabelO | kiozen: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE where 192.168.1.0 is subnet of your haret device |
| 16:16.37 | BabelO | kiozen: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to allow forward |
| 16:17.06 | BabelO | and then open a ssh port on your router redirected to your main computer |
| 16:17.24 | kiozen | ok I try.. |
| 16:17.29 | BabelO | after that tunneling is done by client ssh |
| 16:17.50 | cr2_ | BabelO is our port redirecting and tunneling god :) |
| 16:24.08 | BabelO | once it is done cr2_ just do ssh -v -L 9999:<loox n560 ip adress>:9999 user@kiozen.host this open a tunnel and you can telnet locahost 9999 to remote login ;) |
| 16:24.13 | Zoolooc | cr2_: I've setup a cross-toolchain and compiled the msm kernel with the default halibut config (well, cloned last night, maybe I should update it again), do you think it's worth trying to boot it with haret on kaiser, to get some useful info? |
| 16:25.21 | dcordes | Zoolooc: hailbut is google guy's msm dev board, right? |
| 16:26.36 | cr2_ | Zoolooc: you need to strip away the unneeded halibut drivers first. like SMC91xxx |
| 16:27.00 | cr2_ | and there is a problem with the GPIO/IRQ handling |
| 16:27.22 | cr2_ | it should be replaced with the msm7x00 version. |
| 16:27.58 | cr2_ | the registers itself are known, but it's necessary to look deeper into their use by htc. |
| 16:29.24 | Zoolooc | ok, sounds like a todo list already :-) |
| 16:30.00 | Zoolooc | is this gpio/irq handling code for the msm7x00 available already? |
| 16:30.03 | kiozen | cr2_ sent you my inet addr |
| 16:30.27 | cr2_ | kiozen: trying. |
| 16:30.40 | cr2_ | Zoolooc: for msm7x00A |
| 16:31.10 | cr2_ | which is different. the msm7x00 registers are in the xda-dev wiki. |
| 16:33.10 | cr2_ | BabelO: user@kiozen.host ? |
| 16:33.39 | BabelO | cr2_: a ssh user on kiozen host and kiozen.host is inet addr |
| 16:34.00 | cr2_ | host is the router ? |
| 16:34.12 | BabelO | cr2_: yes |
| 16:34.37 | Zoolooc | so who's likely to do this for msm7x00 (don't even know what's the difference to the ...A)? |
| 16:35.21 | cr2_ | BabelO: but i don't have an account there :) |
| 16:35.38 | cr2_ | Zoolooc: good question. |
| 16:36.12 | kiozen | can do .. |
| 16:36.24 | BabelO | cr2_: then not possible else router redirect to 9999 port on loox directly and loox is connected over wifi |
| 16:36.39 | BabelO | then you can telnet directly |
| 16:36.55 | kiozen | that is feasible... |
| 16:37.55 | kiozen | cr2_ opened port 9999 |
| 16:38.23 | cr2_ | kiozen: ok. |
| 16:38.41 | cr2_ | Connection refused |
| 16:39.11 | kiozen | hmm... let me cross check |
| 16:40.15 | kiozen | looks good, opened udp too, try again |
| 16:41.30 | cr2_ | connection refused. |
| 16:43.47 | kiozen | cr2_ try ssh as guest/guest |
| 16:44.18 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 16:44.21 | cr2_ | that works. |
| 16:44.35 | cr2_ | what is the loox ip ? |
| 16:44.42 | kiozen | 172.16.1.25 |
| 16:45.12 | cr2_ | ah, it should be autoredirected. |
| 16:45.29 | kiozen | try again, server was not running |
| 16:45.35 | cr2_ | telnet localhost 9999 |
| 16:45.38 | cr2_ | great. |
| 16:45.54 | cr2_ | it works. |
| 16:45.56 | kiozen | your in .. |
| 16:46.02 | cr2_ | Detected machine Generic Intel PXA27x/PXA27x (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='FUJITSU SIEMENS COMPUTERS Pocket LOOX 5xx') |
| 16:49.56 | BabelO | cr2_: works via tunneling ? |
| 16:50.16 | cr2_ | kiozen: you did something wrong while dumping the "megabytes"" |
| 16:50.23 | cr2_ | BabelO: you have a wrong job :) |
| 16:50.32 | kiozen | oops :) |
| 16:50.52 | BabelO | cr2_: that was my old job network engeneering and security ;) |
| 16:50.56 | cr2_ | kiozen: i see different data, which makes much more sense to me. |
| 16:51.04 | cr2_ | BabelO: lol :) |
| 16:52.15 | cr2_ | kiozen: the second mb looks like a usual htc bootloader now. |
| 16:52.41 | kiozen | ok, have mercy never done this before |
| 16:53.21 | cr2_ | no problem. |
| 16:53.22 | kiozen | did I do the 3rd one correct? |
| 16:53.38 | cr2_ | do you have enough free space there ? |
| 16:53.50 | cr2_ | the first was ok. |
| 16:54.17 | kiozen | I should have, it's the plain device |
| 16:54.37 | cr2_ | the third is also different. |
| 16:55.12 | kiozen | hm, the third was executed by hand, not default.txt |
| 16:55.49 | cr2_ | strange. |
| 16:57.27 | cr2_ | ok. done. |
| 16:57.42 | cr2_ | can you compress the mb0,mb1,nb2 and mb3 files and send to me ? |
| 16:57.48 | cr2_ | mb2 |
| 16:58.00 | kiozen | ok |
| 16:58.20 | cr2_ | wait a sec |
| 16:59.03 | kiozen | waiting.... |
| 17:00.02 | cr2_ | can you press 'listen' once again ? |
| 17:00.09 | cr2_ | i've logged out. |
| 17:00.21 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 17:02.08 | kiozen | beeeeeeeeeeeeeep :) |
| 17:02.26 | cr2_ | pMSNServer.exe |
| 17:02.29 | cr2_ | ok. done. |
| 17:02.33 | cr2_ | :) |
| 17:03.05 | cr2_ | msnserver in background is exactly what you need to save your battery. |
| 17:06.44 | kiozen | cr2_ sent |
| 17:06.50 | cr2_ | kiozen: what is jacket ? |
| 17:06.53 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 17:07.01 | kiozen | jacket? |
| 17:07.03 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 17:07.07 | cr2_ | jacket.dll |
| 17:07.21 | cr2_ | is it some docking station ? |
| 17:07.25 | kiozen | don't know |
| 17:12.19 | goxboxlive | BabelO: I tested helix also on Magician. It plays videos very smooth comapred to universal. Probably because of 128MB ram. |
| 17:13.01 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes sure it is that, what kind of video ? streaming ? |
| 17:13.20 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: lowres and sram vs. dram |
| 17:13.22 | goxboxlive | BabelO: no, just a 3gp i have on my sd card (50 cent :-) ) |
| 17:13.35 | goxboxlive | cr2_: ok |
| 17:13.49 | cr2_ | kiozen: got nothing so far. |
| 17:14.52 | kiozen | it's 3.2 MB tar.gz |
| 17:14.56 | kiozen | firewall |
| 17:15.03 | kiozen | should I try again? |
| 17:16.24 | cr2_ | kiozen: send 3 files. each compressed. |
| 17:18.36 | kiozen | 4 files sent 4 files mb0--mb3 |
| 17:20.31 | cr2_ | yes. got them all. |
| 17:39.03 | cr2_ | kiozen: it looks good, i can look at the spl now. |
| 17:46.33 | BabelO | goxboxlive: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2007/11/ look at Windows Mobile article |
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| 17:57.05 | JuNuKN | Hello everybody, does somebody know, where to download a linload for x86 under windows CE ? ... Linload |
| 17:57.07 | JuNuKN | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.52 | kiozen | BabelO: if I do "bitbake qpe-image" it compiles gtk, too. Is that correct? |
| 17:58.28 | BabelO | kiozen: there is a qpe image ?.. strange for gtk it is wrong it is for gpe image |
| 17:58.31 | goxboxlive | BabelO: that was cool :-) like compiz. |
| 17:59.02 | goxboxlive | BabelO: is there any dirty hack we can do to get the modem working in Qtopia? Or have you tried that to? |
| 17:59.38 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i already change some thing inside qtopia, but no more luck |
| 17:59.47 | kiozen | oops, gpe-image, compiling the wrong stuff... |
| 18:00.07 | BabelO | kiozen: to compile qtopia, there is no bb file |
| 18:00.40 | kiozen | BabelOwhat did you use ase base system? |
| 18:01.02 | BabelO | kiozen: i use angstrom-console and then just install Qtopia in it |
| 18:01.16 | kiozen | ok |
| 18:01.26 | kiozen | does bitbake have something like make clean |
| 18:01.54 | BabelO | i think yes but i never start it, don't want two more days to build something ;) |
| 18:02.01 | BabelO | goxboxlive: know the command |
| 18:02.54 | kiozen | BabelO: what's your local.conf? |
| 18:04.51 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: linload is for a selfbooting kernel |
| 18:05.26 | cr2_ | kiozen: afair it's the silly dependency in the bluez-tools that forces the x11 and gtk compilation. |
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| 18:06.08 | kiozen | and I did not look good enough, it was gpe-image not qpe-image |
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| 18:07.06 | JuNuKN | Hello cr2_ , thanks for the answer ... yes, I think I know it is for a different kind of device ... a DVB-S Receiver, running with windows CE5 ... currently images for Linux on a Harddisk are available, but no possibility to test Linux without modifying the hardware ... inserting a harddisk |
| 18:07.37 | BabelO | kiozen: my local.conf, i ll check |
| 18:08.16 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: you can run haret on this recv ? |
| 18:09.47 | JuNuKN | cr2_ Isn't it correct, that with such linux loader the current kernel for the device(, which supports USB) should be able to start linux from within Windows CE ... running Linux from USB-Stick .... like with our HTC-Devices ? |
| 18:09.51 | BabelO | kiozen: http://pastebin.ca/769813 but it is old |
| 18:10.35 | kiozen | thanks! :) |
| 18:10.59 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: yes, but you need a zImage and a right cmdline for it. can you point me to the device ? |
| 18:11.00 | JuNuKN | cr2_ Not the version for our CPUs, and I don't know because of the assembler parts . We have a normal x86 Processor |
| 18:11.18 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: haret is arm-specific |
| 18:11.32 | cr2_ | ah, you mean the x86 linload ? |
| 18:11.35 | BabelO | kiozen: for qtopia download are here http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qtopia/qpe-ostp |
| 18:12.06 | kiozen | ok |
| 18:12.43 | BabelO | to build your own device you can copy devices/ficgta01 to your device name |
| 18:13.17 | JuNuKN | cr2_ yes for shure ... http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/Samsung_SMT-7020S |
| 18:13.18 | JuNuKN | It is as Samsung SMT 7020S, ... www.nordstore.de |
| 18:13.20 | JuNuKN | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.01 | JuNuKN | cr2_ ... yes, x86 linload or loadlin .... but able to be started from within windows CE |
| 18:17.13 | kiozen | BabelO: bitbake tells me: ERROR: No providers of build target angstrom-console (for []) |
| 18:17.23 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: i think it'll be easier to write the x86 asm module for haret. |
| 18:17.54 | BabelO | kiozen: sorry it is angstrom-console-image |
| 18:18.09 | BabelO | kiozen: ls org.openembedded.dev/packages/angstrom |
| 18:18.34 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: and you probably need to use the microsoft tools to compile haret. afair there is no x86-wince-pe-gcc. |
| 18:19.09 | JuNuKN | cr2_ You think there is no such project done yet? x86 and Windows CE is not new!? |
| 18:20.22 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: there _was_ sh3-wince-pe-gcc, but then ms mainly abandoned non-arm cpus, so only arm-gcc was developed further |
| 18:21.00 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: it's not a very big deal, but you need somebody skilled with the gcc internals to do it. |
| 18:21.28 | cr2_ | it's probably easier to use ms tools. |
| 18:21.37 | cr2_ | and to write the x86 asm. |
| 18:21.55 | cr2_ | actually i'd like to have a SH4 haret loader ... |
| 18:22.11 | kiozen | BabelO: I don't have org.openembedded.dev/packages/angstrom |
| 18:22.27 | cr2_ | because i still have an old compaq aero8000 :) |
| 18:22.31 | JuNuKN | I have the MS-Tools installed ... |
| 18:22.33 | JuNuKN | but the asm part may be to heavy for me ;o) ... may it be possible to copy the asm-part from a linload-for DOS? |
| 18:23.28 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: it's mainly about disabling MMU on x86, and copying the zimage. AFAIK you don't need 'ATAGs' on x86 |
| 18:23.36 | BabelO | kiozen: mtn --db=/local/OE/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev |
| 18:23.45 | BabelO | kiozen: mtn --db=/local/OE/OE.mtn checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 18:23.50 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: since i really haret x86, i don't know it _very_ well ;) |
| 18:24.27 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: many many years ago i knew something about 8048 and 8051 |
| 18:25.44 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: this "real" mode and "32bit mode" on amd64 are sick ;) i like that arm is such a clean design. |
| 18:27.30 | JuNuKN | cr2_ |
| 18:27.32 | JuNuKN | ... I know .... I started with Z80 and it was very easy, but later it got complexer and after that we used c and c++ ;o) |
| 18:28.05 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 18:28.16 | cr2_ | JuNuKN: you should look at the linuxbios sources. |
| 18:28.43 | JuNuKN | cr2_ Hmmm ... thats a good idea ... |
| 18:28.55 | cr2_ | but there are much more people who know x86 better than arm. |
| 18:29.35 | cr2_ | http://linuxbios.org/index.php/Welcome_to_LinuxBIOS |
| 18:29.45 | JuNuKN | Yes but the combination X86 machine, Currently running WinCE and wished switch to linux :o) |
| 18:30.45 | cr2_ | you need to hook the linuxbios into haret .asm part. |
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| 18:32.44 | cr2_ | kiozen: i see some new gpios :) |
| 18:33.02 | kiozen | :) I see error messages... |
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| 18:36.53 | JuNuKN | cr2_ thank you very much for your audience and tips ... I will dive deeper inside the linuxbios page and maybe I am able to find more tips there. ... and of course still try to find a ready to use solution for it ... |
| 18:36.54 | JuNuKN | I wish you much success with your devices |
| 18:37.07 | kiozen | BabelO: found org.openembedded.dev/packages/angstrom but still no success same error message |
| 18:48.50 | cr2_ | kiozen: there are 4 board_ids |
| 18:49.25 | kiozen | ids? |
| 18:50.28 | cr2_ | id = 0,1,2,3 |
| 18:50.28 | cr2_ | i think you have 1 |
| 18:50.49 | cr2_ | can you do 'pd 0xa0025430 4' ? |
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| 18:54.51 | kiozen | cr2: a0025430 | 00000000 | .... |
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| 18:58.39 | cr2_ | ok. |
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| 19:04.29 | cr2_ | kiozen: it may have the same LCD like in the universal. |
| 19:05.11 | kiozen | how can we check? |
| 19:07.35 | cr2_ | it's vga ? |
| 19:07.40 | cr2_ | there are 4 panels. |
| 19:08.46 | cr2_ | TD035STEB2 |
| 19:09.02 | cr2_ | ACX526AKM - universal |
| 19:09.02 | kiozen | yes VGA 480x 640 |
| 19:09.27 | cr2_ | TD035STEE1 |
| 19:09.40 | cr2_ | TD035STED2 |
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| 19:10.29 | cr2_ | NEC NL2432DR2202B |
| 19:11.21 | kiozen | Babel: there is task-angstrom-e but angstrom-console-image |
| 19:11.23 | cr2_ | Toshiba ITM04C380K |
| 19:12.20 | cr2_ | TD035 are 240x320 panels |
| 19:13.14 | cr2_ | http://www.lcdsolar.com/Products/All/NEC/NL2432DR2202B.html |
| 19:13.18 | cr2_ | NEC too |
| 19:14.36 | cr2_ | most likely you have sony. |
| 19:28.48 | cr2_ | hehe. it seems toppoly needs the usual spi setup. like ba6 |
| 19:29.27 | cr2_ | TD035STEC1 |
| 19:29.42 | cr2_ | yeah, it's the same LCD. |
| 19:30.23 | cr2_ | need to check the numbers. |
| 19:30.41 | cr2_ | Babel: the old zombies wake up ;) |
| 19:31.36 | cr2_ | psokolovsky is alive too :) |
| 19:31.48 | cr2_ | http://cia.vc/stats/project/handhelds.org/.message/7aa5b1 |
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| 19:38.06 | cr2_ | kiozen: it seems you have the best 5xx version, and saved yourself from a big PITA on the LCD resume ;) |
| 19:38.52 | kiozen | cr2_: this haret bootloader gives me enought PITA |
| 19:39.23 | kiozen | but the n560 has the best reputation of all loox |
| 19:41.12 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 19:41.25 | PITABoy | cr2_ I "booted" linux on an msm7500 and pretty much crashed it |
| 19:41.27 | PITABoy | but |
| 19:41.38 | PITABoy | I had wifi on when I did it |
| 19:42.05 | PITABoy | eventually it lost it's dhcp connection but The mac was still very active |
| 19:42.29 | PITABoy | it was being seen by wifi utilitys about once every 20 seconds |
| 19:49.32 | PITABoy | any ideas if this could be usefull |
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| 20:02.12 | cr2_ | aaa. cpld again. |
| 20:02.34 | cr2_ | PITABoy: it's too early to boot something sensible. |
| 20:02.49 | cr2_ | Babel: triples again :) |
| 20:04.50 | cr2_ | evil bits |
| 20:06.51 | PITABoy | i know |
| 20:06.58 | PITABoy | but the wifi is actuve |
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| 20:07.10 | PITABoy | could we use it to dump stuff |
| 20:07.44 | BabelO | cr2_: what ? |
| 20:08.18 | BabelO | cr2_: ah cpld :) |
| 20:08.50 | BabelO | cr2_: patch for omap850 from swetland user cpld too |
| 20:09.56 | dcordes | PITABoy: here you can learn stuff about your phone :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP637Mq4qHA |
| 20:11.20 | cr2_ | BabelO: my triple is (set=1/clr=0,bank=1..6,mask) |
| 20:11.34 | cr2_ | my=n560 |
| 20:13.09 | cr2_ | hm. banks can be 0 too. |
| 20:14.08 | cr2_ | 0x51eb851f |
| 20:14.16 | cr2_ | time-related number :) |
| 20:18.56 | cr2_ | kiozen: so it's not enough to trace the pxa gpio, it's necessary to trace also the CPLD bits. |
| 20:19.27 | kiozen | should I open the router? |
| 20:19.28 | PITABoy | dcordes I already knew all of that and that aint my phone |
| 20:19.34 | cr2_ | afair the haretconsole parses the CPLD bits only on hermes. |
| 20:19.52 | cr2_ | kiozen: no. i'll find the most bits |
| 20:20.38 | cr2_ | kiozen: we need a wiki table like http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaCPLD1 |
| 20:21.13 | cr2_ | with 6 banks |
| 20:21.41 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CPLD |
| 20:22.24 | dcordes | PITABoy: oh which one do you have? |
| 20:22.37 | PITABoy | titan(mogul) |
| 20:22.37 | kiozen | as if 119 GPIO pins aren't enought :) |
| 20:23.09 | kiozen | btw I could boot a precompiled angstom-console image |
| 20:23.21 | kiozen | but I fail to connect via usb |
| 20:23.24 | dcordes | PITABoy: I want to get mogul or kaiser |
| 20:23.43 | PITABoy | if you have gsm you need the kaiser |
| 20:23.47 | PITABoy | cdma is the mogul |
| 20:23.51 | kiozen | the usb-gadget stuff is linked to rc5.d |
| 20:23.53 | cr2_ | kiozen: (0,4,8) sleep 0x14 (1,4,8) then sd_init |
| 20:24.04 | PITABoy | the only other difference is the flip and 64 megs of ram |
| 20:24.08 | kiozen | ?? |
| 20:24.12 | dcordes | PITABoy: I think since you can buy mogul with german providers it will also be available as gsm |
| 20:24.15 | cr2_ | kiozen: it's even worse on omap850 |
| 20:24.36 | kiozen | cr2_: you lost me |
| 20:24.38 | dcordes | PITABoy: really? doesn't the kaiser have more internet thingies? |
| 20:24.46 | cr2_ | kiozen: omap850 has 192 gpios. and still they use CPLD to extend it. on herald the CPLD is accessed over i2c ! |
| 20:24.52 | PITABoy | I think that it is the same |
| 20:25.05 | PITABoy | and the mogul is msm7500 cdma only |
| 20:25.22 | cr2_ | kiozen: you need to reset a CPLD bit before doing the sd_init. so the current linux code is not quite right. |
| 20:25.23 | PITABoy | the kaiser and other titan models are msm7200 gsm only |
| 20:25.52 | kiozen | does that cause ma yboot problems? |
| 20:25.58 | dcordes | PITABoy: god I god mogul and hermes confused |
| 20:26.01 | dcordes | got |
| 20:26.12 | dcordes | nothing more confusing then htc models |
| 20:26.21 | cr2_ | kiozen: and the gpio82 is the wifi/mmc mux bit. something like SPI_CS. |
| 20:26.25 | PITABoy | mogul is sprints name for their version of the titan |
| 20:26.26 | cr2_ | kiozen: maybe. |
| 20:26.33 | PITABoy | mogul is sprint only |
| 20:27.04 | PITABoy | telus has a version of the titan identical to the mogul afaik called the P4000 |
| 20:27.48 | dcordes | hm only difference between hermes and mogul are flip screen and mogul has 64mb ram |
| 20:27.51 | dcordes | more |
| 20:28.03 | PITABoy | yup and the fact that it is cdma |
| 20:28.09 | cr2_ | kiozen: is it a normal SD you have ? |
| 20:28.31 | dcordes | propably I will get kaiser then |
| 20:28.37 | kiozen | micro SD with an adapter |
| 20:29.21 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:29.34 | cr2_ | that's why they start with CMD0. |
| 20:29.38 | dcordes | does somebody know which 802.11g chipset is used by kaiser? |
| 20:31.38 | cr2_ | dcordes: wait a sec |
| 20:32.08 | cr2_ | haha. CMD0 and then CMD5. imho it's against the spec. |
| 20:33.42 | cr2_ | dcordes: Fw1251r1c.bin |
| 20:34.54 | dcordes | uhu :) |
| 20:35.51 | cr2_ | dcordes: TNETW1251 |
| 20:35.53 | dcordes | google points me to some component index site |
| 20:36.16 | cr2_ | we hope that the standard acx100 driver will work. |
| 20:36.41 | cr2_ | it works on other TNETW1xxx |
| 20:37.49 | dcordes | cr2_: ok thanks. Do you also know what hermes uses? |
| 20:38.38 | cr2_ | CMD0,CMD5,CMD3,CMD7,CMD52 |
| 20:38.42 | cr2_ | 1250 |
| 20:38.55 | cr2_ | on hermes and athena and artemis and ... |
| 20:39.35 | dcordes | is this also using acx100? |
| 20:40.19 | cr2_ | TNETW1250 |
| 20:40.34 | cr2_ | not yet, because it also uses SDIO for something. |
| 20:41.03 | cr2_ | 0x80000402 and 0x80000e02 for CMD7 |
| 20:41.23 | dcordes | cr2_: wlan in hermes is sdio? |
| 20:41.41 | cr2_ | at least partially. |
| 20:42.07 | cr2_ | we really need to update to .24 |
| 20:42.45 | dcordes | partially? :) |
| 20:43.55 | cr2_ | something dealing with the eeprom goes over sdio. |
| 20:44.09 | cr2_ | the data port _may_ be mmaped |
| 20:44.14 | cr2_ | i don't yet know. |
| 20:44.21 | dcordes | ok |
| 20:44.37 | cr2_ | on n560 it seeems to be sdio-only |
| 20:45.46 | PITABoy | My kernel does something |
| 20:46.02 | dcordes | I don't know n560 letme check |
| 20:47.04 | PITABoy | I just booted the default config kernel on my msm7500 and plugged my device into usb and got nothing not even unreconized device |
| 20:47.41 | PITABoy | when I boot my knernel config windows sees it as an unknown device |
| 20:47.53 | dcordes | windows? |
| 20:48.12 | PITABoy | I booted linux on my phone |
| 20:48.38 | PITABoy | when I plug it into my active sync pc with the default msm7k kernel I get nothing |
| 20:49.11 | PITABoy | when i boot my kernel windows says new device detected "unknown device" |
| 20:51.39 | dcordes | what you mean by default msm7k kernel? factory default? |
| 20:52.26 | PITABoy | i mean the only things that I changed in the kernelconfig is stuff that caused it not to compile |
| 20:52.48 | PITABoy | MY kernel config has every wifi driver and a bunch of other drivers |
| 20:52.55 | PITABoy | builtt in no moduls |
| 20:53.25 | dcordes | hmmmm I need kaiser to join the fun. |
| 20:53.38 | kiozen | cr2_ haret boot seems to be better after creating a new linload.exe |
| 20:54.02 | cr2_ | kiozen: the SD init still misses the CPLD support. |
| 20:54.15 | kiozen | but I still can't connect to the device. |
| 20:54.26 | cr2_ | usb ? |
| 20:54.38 | kiozen | usb-gadget does not create an interface |
| 20:54.51 | kiozen | checked interfaces |
| 20:54.56 | kiozen | looks good |
| 20:54.56 | cr2_ | what do you see with lsusb ? |
| 20:55.30 | kiozen | Bus 003 Device 013: ID 0525:a4a2 Netchip Technology, Inc. Linux-USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget |
| 20:55.33 | kiozen | looks good |
| 20:55.50 | kiozen | I made ifconfig after calling usb-gadget |
| 20:55.59 | kiozen | it shows only loopback device |
| 20:56.44 | cr2_ | ifconfig usb0 ? |
| 20:56.46 | PITABoy | ok just found out that the wifi just locks and it isnt anything to do with my kernel but the usb does have to do with my kernel |
| 20:57.28 | PITABoy | yup no usb with this kerenl going back to my "loaded" kerenl |
| 20:57.45 | kiozen | on the device or the pc? |
| 20:57.55 | PITABoy | on the device |
| 20:58.20 | PITABoy | any computer will see the phone as an unknown device when booting my kernel on the phone |
| 20:59.45 | cr2_ | kiozen: on the pc |
| 20:59.58 | kiozen | the pc side is ok |
| 21:00.19 | cr2_ | kiozen: then there is something wrong with the kernel config |
| 21:00.20 | kiozen | the device side does not have any other interface than lo |
| 21:00.29 | PITABoy | I can now confirm that My kernel infact is activating the usb on the titan |
| 21:00.49 | kiozen | using the same kernel as usual |
| 21:01.26 | kiozen | just a precompiled angstrom-console image |
| 21:01.26 | PITABoy | now I am going to see if I can compile in usb networking or debug or even edit the kernel source to have it tell the computer that it is something instead of unknown |
| 21:01.26 | BabelO | kiozen: ah ah ok you used angstrom console then |
| 21:01.30 | BabelO | kiozen: your image ? |
| 21:01.39 | kiozen | no precompiled |
| 21:01.59 | kiozen | compiling openebedded sucks ;) |
| 21:02.00 | BabelO | kiozen: to have usb you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:02.12 | BabelO | kiozen: then add line like auto usb0 |
| 21:02.13 | kiozen | I did looks good |
| 21:02.31 | cr2_ | kiozen: do you have serial cable ? |
| 21:02.40 | kiozen | just usb |
| 21:02.45 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 21:03.14 | cr2_ | BabelO: did you get an idea how your CPLD works in artemis ? |
| 21:03.58 | BabelO | cr2_: no :( not i2c it is sure, i see only data exchange when camera is on |
| 21:04.14 | cr2_ | BabelO: ok. |
| 21:05.29 | cr2_ | wow. wifi reset needs 2 more cpld gpios |
| 21:05.45 | kiozen | ahh, auto usb missing :) |
| 21:06.15 | cr2_ | kiozen: it should be there... |
| 21:06.27 | kiozen | I am in |
| 21:06.29 | cr2_ | well ,if it also does not include 10+ cpld gpios ;) |
| 21:06.31 | BabelO | cr2_: auto usb0 is not a OE default |
| 21:06.51 | cr2_ | BabelO: OE is evil. |
| 21:06.57 | PITABoy | ANYONE THAT CARES ABOUT LINUX ON THE TITAN GO TO #titanux |
| 21:07.14 | kiozen | cr2_ agreed |
| 21:07.15 | BabelO | cr2_: i think auto usb0 is power consumer :( |
| 21:07.43 | cr2_ | BabelO: in the read production release - maybe. |
| 21:08.01 | cr2_ | BabelO: but it's a PITA when you don't have the LCD or keyboard. |
| 21:08.23 | cr2_ | BabelO: goxboxlive enables wifi by default. |
| 21:08.34 | kiozen | ok, let's build qtopia on that |
| 21:13.36 | kiozen | BabelO: any recommended reading for compiling qtopia? |
| 21:14.27 | BabelO | kiozen: just two thing get qtopia angstrom toolchain, because there is already all dependancies in it |
| 21:14.58 | BabelO | kiozen: and second i send you by mail correct settings device |
| 21:15.18 | BabelO | kiozen: after that just configure -device |
| 21:15.47 | kiozen | where do I get this toolchain? |
| 21:16.13 | kiozen | is it the one by openembedded? |
| 21:17.25 | cr2_ | BabelO: is there a zaurus version avalibale ? |
| 21:17.43 | cr2_ | BabelO: then he don't need to mess with the phone stuff. |
| 21:18.29 | kiozen | oh yes, that would be greate |
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| 21:21.35 | BabelO | kiozen: i send you correct file and procedure, just edit configure file in devices/htcphone and instead of -edition phone set it to -edition pda ;) |
| 21:22.17 | kiozen | Re: [QLandkarte-users] number of trackpoints |
| 21:22.19 | kiozen | lol |
| 21:23.45 | BabelO | kiozen: ah yes found quick reply :( |
| 21:24.27 | BabelO | kiozen: i follow your mailing list very interesting sometimes |
| 21:24.55 | kiozen | yes but most users mail directly |
| 21:25.06 | kiozen | I wish the would use the list |
| 21:25.10 | kiozen | would save me time |
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| 21:32.29 | cr2_ | kiozen: what may be "Audio cradle out enabled" ? |
| 21:33.30 | kiozen | I guess there is an audio jack at the cradel, can tell you tomorrow |
| 21:34.48 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 21:38.00 | cr2_ | kiozen: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/LooxC550Hardware |
| 21:38.15 | cr2_ | looks much better now. i need to add the CPLD pins now. |
| 21:39.05 | kiozen | cr2_ cool |
| 21:43.33 | kiozen | BabelO: Invalid value for option "edition": pda |
| 21:43.48 | BabelO | what help say ? |
| 21:44.41 | BabelO | kiozen: -edition platform |
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| 21:52.29 | kiozen_ | BabelO: your are sure about -xplatform linux-htcphone-g++ |
| 21:52.39 | kiozen_ | the toolchain is arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ |
| 21:52.50 | kiozen_ | wrong toolchain? wrong config? |
| 21:53.16 | BabelO | kiozen_: yes setup for linux-htcphone-g++ is done in devices/htcphone/mkspecs/qws/qmake.conf |
| 21:53.53 | cr2_ | kiozen_: put everything what i've found http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/LooxC550Hardware |
| 21:55.07 | cr2_ | Display |
| 21:55.07 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.09 | kiozen_ | cr2_ thanks :) |
| 21:55.14 | cr2_ | not on n560 |
| 21:55.16 | cr2_ | :) |
| 21:55.58 | cr2_ | kiozen_: all htc devices have the same design pattern :) |
| 21:55.59 | kiozen_ | maybe a standalone wiki would be less confusing? |
| 21:56.27 | cr2_ | kiozen_: split it if you'd like. i wanted to put this info somewhere. |
| 21:56.52 | kiozen_ | mostly the cpu manufactorer offers a reference design and everyone copies it |
| 21:58.22 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.40 | cr2_ | this is what you are missing in the SD powerup/init |
| 21:59.14 | cr2_ | then you need to trace the ir/gps switch. |
| 22:06.17 | kiozen_ | BabelO: /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/* is that the expected absolute toolchain path? |
| 22:06.40 | kiozen_ | the linker has problems to find crt1.o |
| 22:06.57 | BabelO | kiozen_: yes, i do a symlink |
| 22:09.48 | BabelO | kiozen_: i test qlankarte on this sources ans works fine qt 4.3.2 |
| 22:11.49 | kiozen_ | yes, very likely I must have fucked up something in my setup :) |
| 22:15.54 | kiozen_ | ok, other toolcahin was in it's way |
| 22:16.57 | kiozen_ | I am out of luck today :) |
| 22:17.16 | kiozen_ | BabelO: does that ring a bell? ERROR: You requested -sound_system=s but it was disabled. |
| 22:17.19 | BabelO | kiozen_: look |
| 22:17.44 | BabelO | http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/IM/capture35.png |
| 22:18.07 | BabelO | kiozen_: no problem for sound sysetm |
| 22:18.45 | cr2_ | BabelO: does not look like running on BA :) |
| 22:18.54 | BabelO | http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/IM/capture36.png this one |
| 22:19.03 | BabelO | no no running on my big screen ;) |
| 22:19.35 | kiozen_ | guess I have to test that monkey studio |
| 22:19.54 | BabelO | still some bug and no debugger |
| 22:20.07 | BabelO | release is for 00:00 am :) |
| 22:20.39 | BabelO | for sound system you can remove line about helix in configure file |
| 22:20.43 | BabelO | device/htcphone/configure |
| 22:21.35 | BabelO | this ide look very nice it help me a lot, instead of vi :) |
| 22:23.27 | kiozen_ | i will test it :) |
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| 22:35.59 | goxboxlive | BabelO: you should test this on your mediacenter: http://xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOW-TO_compile_XBMC_for_Linux_from_source_code |
| 22:36.32 | kiozen_ | ok. configure executes. there is still some stuff with the prefix path.. but not today. |
| 22:36.38 | kiozen_ | bbl |
| 22:38.05 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no xbox here :) |
| 22:43.29 | goxboxlive | BabelO: it's not Xbox, it's an oustanding mediasenter. It has been ported to linux too. |
| 22:46.05 | BabelO | ah ok |
| 22:47.02 | BabelO | i ll try instead of mythtv |
| 22:48.06 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes give it a try. It's because of this program i still have an xbox, i never play games with it. I am about to buy another xbox now to have in our other living room. :-) It's cheap and great |
| 23:03.08 | BabelO | lol |
| 23:15.05 | goxboxlive | BabelO: it took a while to compile it, but i compiled and it runs. But seems like it needs a lot of cpu power . (i'll tested it only on my laptop). |
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