| 00:00.04 | cr2_ | BabelO: they usually don't want you to control the sound and CAM. |
| 00:00.18 | BabelO | i hope wifi can work on artemis too, we take long time to have it working on ba :( |
| 00:00.48 | BabelO | cr2_: yes sound and cam are for cia and nsa ;) and maybe gps too ;) |
| 00:01.00 | PITABoy | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341903 <-- that is my mogul linux forum I also posted a kernelconfig (nonworking) and some haret logs. I am about to post more haret dumps |
| 00:01.13 | cr2_ | BabelO: wifi on artemis is the same SDIO twnet1250 chips as on all other devices. |
| 00:01.33 | BabelO | cr2_: so we can reuse acx mem driver first time ? |
| 00:02.00 | BabelO | it work so nice on artemis wifi... connected to my internet box in 5s |
| 00:02.05 | cr2_ | BabelO: SDIO needs some work, but i guess that big parts of acx100 can be reused. |
| 00:02.23 | cr2_ | i don't think TI made some big changes there. |
| 00:02.34 | BabelO | cool don't want to spend to much time like for pcmcia |
| 00:02.47 | cr2_ | even brf6500 works with the brf6150 fw. |
| 00:03.10 | BabelO | anyway i have the bts file for it |
| 00:03.21 | cr2_ | yes, PCMCIA is not used anywhere else. only on ba ( and axim, but that's another story) |
| 00:03.30 | BabelO | i already send it to you right ? but it is 6150 on artemis too |
| 00:03.32 | cr2_ | BabelO: i have all BTS files. |
| 00:03.42 | BabelO | good ;) |
| 00:03.55 | cr2_ | maybe we should write the BTS compiler :) |
| 00:04.09 | BabelO | without doc ? |
| 00:04.13 | cr2_ | i've done the BTS decompiler long ago . |
| 00:04.37 | BabelO | i ve to try a2dp |
| 00:04.41 | BabelO | i ve a device now ;) |
| 00:04.42 | cr2_ | you can decompile all available BTS files, and make some conclusions about the settings. |
| 00:04.51 | cr2_ | sdg has the docs. |
| 00:05.02 | BabelO | ok |
| 00:05.16 | cr2_ | so the BTS format is "documented" with the -S switch source ;) |
| 00:05.36 | cr2_ | i've just ripped this code from there and created a standalone app. |
| 00:05.56 | cr2_ | there was somebody who has done something like that for nokia. |
| 00:06.01 | BabelO | cr2_: yes and already tried another fw on my ba that's how they upgrade to stereo bt |
| 00:06.06 | cr2_ | and he sent me his code too. |
| 00:06.22 | cr2_ | i just need to search for it, and probably commit to CVS. |
| 00:06.29 | Zoolooc | bed time now, cu guys |
| 00:06.35 | BabelO | cr2_: like the brf driver in omap tree ? it is coming from nokia too |
| 00:06.38 | cr2_ | good night |
| 00:06.46 | BabelO | good night Zoolooc |
| 00:07.00 | cr2_ | brf in omap is quite useless. |
| 00:07.11 | cr2_ | all the logic is packed into the BTS |
| 00:07.16 | PITABoy | noob question what is BTS |
| 00:07.24 | cr2_ | BTS is not quite the firmware, but very close to it., |
| 00:07.30 | BabelO | cr2_: brf driver have firmware upload over sys class |
| 00:07.35 | cr2_ | BlueToothScript |
| 00:07.43 | BabelO | so no need of hciattach ? |
| 00:08.03 | cr2_ | BabelO: a stupid idea anyway. it can be done by 'hcitool' if you really want it. |
| 00:08.04 | PITABoy | yeah my guess was going to be bluetooth stuff |
| 00:08.31 | BabelO | ok |
| 00:09.20 | cr2_ | BabelO: there is really no use for one more custom serial driver without any substantial reason. |
| 00:09.59 | BabelO | how they do bt in msm git tree ? |
| 00:10.18 | BabelO | another solution than hciattach and omap tree ? |
| 00:10.20 | cr2_ | DMA driver |
| 00:10.23 | BabelO | lol |
| 00:10.37 | cr2_ | i'm not quite sure how it is done. |
| 00:10.51 | cr2_ | somebody needs to open the msm device and post the pics. |
| 00:11.06 | BabelO | i want pics for artemis too |
| 00:11.16 | cr2_ | BabelO: there is no brf6150 there, afair. |
| 00:11.17 | BabelO | but i hope camera is ov96xx |
| 00:11.21 | cr2_ | no. |
| 00:11.33 | cr2_ | samsung like on all other newer phones. |
| 00:11.42 | BabelO | :( |
| 00:11.49 | cr2_ | well, maybe the second cam for VT |
| 00:11.55 | BabelO | so no camera on artemis |
| 00:12.04 | cr2_ | ov can't do 2-3Mpix |
| 00:12.34 | BabelO | cr2_: yes , i forgot that :( |
| 00:12.41 | cr2_ | hehe. navit includes the map of Munich in the standard package. |
| 00:12.51 | BabelO | ? free map ? |
| 00:13.16 | cr2_ | OSM. |
| 00:13.25 | cr2_ | it's pretty good. |
| 00:13.40 | cr2_ | i'm impressed with the OSM development in Germany |
| 00:13.58 | cr2_ | when i've uploaded my first tracks, it was very very empty there :) |
| 00:14.25 | BabelO | i started some trace too for my town, and i remember policeman now ;) |
| 00:14.56 | BabelO | cr2_: you add coment draw road type on your uploaded map ? |
| 00:16.03 | PITABoy | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1650346#post1650346 check out my attachment hope that it helps |
| 00:16.17 | PITABoy | the zip file that has a haret dump inside |
| 00:17.04 | cr2_ | PITABoy: ok. |
| 00:17.35 | BabelO | cr2_: i m looking at munich, map is very nice.. " c'est magnifique " :) |
| 00:17.41 | cr2_ | BabelO: :) |
| 00:17.59 | cr2_ | i've immediately found a bug at a place which i know very well :) |
| 00:18.15 | cr2_ | ok, it's late now. good night |
| 00:18.23 | BabelO | cr2_: good night |
| 00:18.30 | BabelO | me too |
| 00:19.52 | cr2_ | BabelO: blueangel_set_vpp |
| 00:19.59 | cr2_ | magician_egpio_set(EGPIO_NR_MAGICIAN_FLASH_VPP, 1); |
| 00:20.05 | cr2_ | does not look very good |
| 00:20.10 | BabelO | you think it is the same ? |
| 00:20.15 | BabelO | yes i put it in comment |
| 00:20.23 | BabelO | just try some test with wince partition |
| 00:20.25 | BabelO | :) |
| 00:20.26 | cr2_ | you don't have egpio on ba. only asic3. |
| 00:20.33 | BabelO | yes i know |
| 00:20.45 | cr2_ | so it must be something else |
| 00:20.45 | BabelO | but i have it on artemis i think |
| 00:20.59 | cr2_ | but i need to look at the BL to check that. |
| 00:21.06 | BabelO | it is just a copy / paste to keep structure |
| 00:21.11 | cr2_ | artemis has CPLD, that's right. |
| 00:21.16 | BabelO | ok |
| 00:21.29 | BabelO | driver is on hh kernel ? |
| 00:21.34 | BabelO | the one from Kevin2 ? |
| 00:21.36 | cr2_ | VPP is actually an action item. |
| 00:21.44 | cr2_ | you need to adapt it. |
| 00:21.52 | cr2_ | yes, it's rather generic. |
| 00:22.11 | BabelO | ok, need to fix this silly freeze before :( |
| 00:22.11 | cr2_ | i'll tell you tomorrow how many banks are there. |
| 00:22.24 | cr2_ | don't know about irq, though. |
| 00:22.31 | BabelO | maybe clock issue or irq o don't know, i hope pH5 can help me |
| 00:22.32 | cr2_ | hopefully they are not used. |
| 00:22.47 | cr2_ | ok. as i've said gather the "triples" |
| 00:22.51 | BabelO | ok and need to finish wiki page |
| 00:22.59 | cr2_ | put them to wiki, or save somewhere. |
| 00:23.07 | BabelO | ok |
| 00:23.44 | cr2_ | good night. |
| 00:23.50 | BabelO | good night |
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| 00:37.21 | PITABoy | what did I miss |
| 00:37.27 | PITABoy | is there an new wiki page |
| 00:37.38 | BabelO | PITABoy: nothing |
| 00:37.43 | PITABoy | oh |
| 00:38.03 | PITABoy | what is the difference between the hh kernel and the Kevin2 kernel? |
| 00:38.22 | BabelO | Kevin2 kernel ? ;) |
| 00:38.37 | PITABoy | "<BabelO> the one from Kevin2 ?" |
| 00:38.38 | BabelO | we work only with hh kenrel here |
| 00:38.44 | PITABoy | ok |
| 00:39.07 | BabelO | ah it is just a drive made by kevin2 in hh tree |
| 00:39.48 | BabelO | ok good night |
| 00:39.53 | PITABoy | I know that this is probably a long way off but what gui are you guys planning on putting on the msm7x00 based devices |
| 00:41.21 | PITABoy | looks like everyone went to sleep :-( |
| 00:41.26 | BabelO | PITABoy: you have the choice ;) opie 1 or gpe or gpehone or openmoko or qtopia |
| 00:41.28 | PITABoy | it is only 7:40 |
| 00:41.36 | BabelO | depend on your need PDA only or PDA /phone |
| 00:41.37 | PITABoy | ok cool |
| 00:42.09 | BabelO | PITABoy: it is 1:42 am :) |
| 00:42.18 | BabelO | so sleeping is a good idea |
| 00:42.27 | PITABoy | i haven't heard of qtopia in a while I thought that opie was the newer version of that and now there is opie 2 is for phones |
| 00:43.08 | BabelO | PITABoy: real name of opie 2 change a little :) |
| 00:43.32 | BabelO | PITABoy: wait i have video i think |
| 00:43.51 | PITABoy | so qtopia is opie 2 |
| 00:44.37 | BabelO | PITABoy: yes it is qtopia phone edition based on qtopia 4.3 |
| 00:45.16 | BabelO | PITABoy: qtopia is the name from trolltech release and opie II is for a custom based on qtopia phone edition |
| 00:45.28 | BabelO | understand ? |
| 00:46.17 | PITABoy | oh |
| 00:46.18 | PITABoy | ok |
| 00:46.36 | BabelO | PITABoy: http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=9190740901240738097&q=qtopia+fic&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1 |
| 00:46.50 | BabelO | they speak about google on tv now ;) |
| 00:47.12 | BabelO | lot of speaker for a virtual machine ;) |
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| 00:48.43 | BabelO | PITABoy: there is also openmoko video |
| 00:48.53 | BabelO | good night , i go to bed now |
| 00:48.55 | BabelO | bye |
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| 00:54.05 | PITABoy | Is anyone awake |
| 00:55.24 | g0atboy | yep |
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| 01:25.23 | PITABoy | g0atboy |
| 01:25.35 | PITABoy | what htc device do you have |
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| 02:28.12 | orlock | man, i am dissapointed in my HTC, mainly cos of windows mobile :-\ |
| 02:30.52 | PITABoy | arent we all what one do you have |
| 02:31.05 | PITABoy | I will be back in 15 mins or less |
| 02:44.27 | PITABoy | back |
| 02:44.33 | orlock | TyTn/iMate JasJam |
| 02:45.08 | orlock | cant even get the damn thing to sync |
| 02:45.48 | PITABoy | gsm or cdma |
| 02:46.05 | orlock | i am trying to sync over usb |
| 02:46.17 | PITABoy | i know |
| 02:46.23 | PITABoy | does it have linux on it? |
| 02:46.31 | orlock | nope |
| 02:46.41 | orlock | i dont think its available for this model yet |
| 02:46.51 | orlock | wtf |
| 02:46.53 | orlock | hey mazza |
| 02:47.06 | PITABoy | mazza? |
| 02:47.32 | orlock | mazzanet, another ausssie i see around irc |
| 02:47.42 | PITABoy | oh |
| 02:48.00 | PITABoy | I'm assuming that it is a gsm phone then |
| 02:48.25 | orlock | GSM/3G/etc |
| 02:48.40 | PITABoy | yeah |
| 02:48.49 | PITABoy | and you cant get it to sync via usp |
| 02:48.52 | PITABoy | usb* |
| 02:49.26 | PITABoy | ok this is going to sound dumb but what are you using to sync activesync? |
| 02:49.42 | orlock | on the linux side i am trying to use multisync/synce |
| 02:50.30 | PITABoy | good luck I have had 3 pocketpc devices 2 ipaqs and one htc mogul and could never sync with linux |
| 02:51.02 | PITABoy | I have been able to teather and make a usb network to "talk" to the phone like as in telnet to it |
| 02:51.41 | orlock | yeah |
| 02:51.46 | orlock | i was looking for a telnetd before |
| 02:51.54 | orlock | none of the onesi found run on my phone |
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| 02:52.41 | orlock | wireless and putty work well though for going the other way |
| 02:52.41 | PITABoy | i was running linux on my ipaqs when i telneted into them |
| 02:52.53 | PITABoy | what telnetd did you find for pocketpc i would like to try them |
| 02:53.04 | PITABoy | true |
| 02:53.44 | orlock | there is a .de site that has a few apps |
| 02:53.47 | orlock | CMD, etc |
| 02:53.49 | PITABoy | what is stupid about my phone the sprint mogul made by htc is that they dont even show it on their page |
| 02:54.13 | PITABoy | did the cmd work? |
| 02:54.28 | orlock | http://www.symbolictools.de/public/pocketconsole/applications/telnetd/index.htm |
| 02:54.35 | orlock | nah, they are all pretty old |
| 02:55.02 | PITABoy | might sound stupid but did you get the arm version |
| 02:57.33 | PITABoy | yeah and no cabs :-( |
| 02:59.09 | orlock | yeah |
| 02:59.21 | orlock | the place i work actually does embedded linux ARM phone stuff |
| 02:59.33 | PITABoy | cool |
| 02:59.38 | PITABoy | where do you work |
| 02:59.59 | orlock | just some place in australia, not well known |
| 03:00.05 | orlock | they dont make anything normal people would see |
| 03:00.42 | PITABoy | oh\ |
| 03:01.06 | PITABoy | yeah the place where I work makes everything :-P and I'm not kidding |
| 03:01.24 | PITABoy | everything from airplanes to resistors |
| 03:01.46 | orlock | ahh, cool |
| 03:02.04 | PITABoy | looks promising http://blogs.msdn.com/cenet/archive/2004/09/30/the-ce-telnet-server.aspx |
| 03:03.22 | orlock | look at the date, man :) |
| 03:03.47 | PITABoy | I know it is for ce 1003 |
| 03:03.52 | PITABoy | 2003*\ |
| 03:04.24 | PITABoy | but it is form MS and therefore probably in later builds it says that is is built into windows and you just have to activate it |
| 03:12.41 | PITABoy | looks like htc followed ms advice and removed it before release :-( however I'm sure that someone has it |
| 03:16.23 | PITABoy | well at least this gives me something usefull I just learned that there is a windows mobile "debug dll" you get it from ms and it pumps out all the information about the device (I really want this, do you know how much easier this could make putting linux on these devices) capturing gpios and memory etc |
| 03:18.25 | PITABoy | too bad you "need" to be a oem or device builder to get it |
| 03:18.37 | PITABoy | i will start the hunt when I get home |
| 03:21.15 | PITABoy | just looked in the registry and htc left some debug logs in there turned off of course but we can turn them on ... the first one that I found was the wlan debud that should tell us what wlan card it has we could also do a mac search to find out who makes it |
| 03:21.36 | PITABoy | be back in 50 minutes (when I get home) |
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| 08:29.02 | kiozen | cr2_: morning |
| 08:29.46 | kiozen | cr2_: I suspect GPIO 53 to be the one to power the GPS |
| 08:30.50 | kiozen | see http://pastebin.ca/766912 |
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| 09:50.09 | BabelO_ | kiozen: hi, you find the right one ;) |
| 09:50.24 | BabelO_ | kiozen: 116 is your touch screen or the OK key ? |
| 09:55.02 | cr2_ | hi |
| 09:55.09 | swetland | 'morning |
| 09:55.34 | cr2_ | kiozen: you should mask the I2C bits. and other know gpios |
| 09:55.37 | cr2_ | hi swetland |
| 09:55.54 | cr2_ | kiozen: 116 and 117 are SCL and SDA |
| 09:56.30 | BabelO_ | morning swetland, cr2_ |
| 09:56.32 | cr2_ | heh. i need to create the wiki page ;-) |
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| 09:58.16 | kiozen | morning all |
| 09:58.36 | kiozen | cr2_: what's SCL / SDA |
| 09:58.37 | cr2_ | BabelO_: 'ibit' masks the irqs. how does one mask gpio bits now ? Kevin has changed the syntax |
| 09:58.55 | cr2_ | I2C data/clock lines |
| 09:59.00 | kiozen | ibit gpios num ? |
| 09:59.12 | cr2_ | num1 num2 ... |
| 09:59.20 | kiozen | yes |
| 09:59.21 | cr2_ | works for irq |
| 10:00.14 | kiozen | I do a "ibit gpios num1 num2 .." until watch gpios is silence suring idle |
| 10:01.40 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 10:03.51 | BabelO_ | cr2_: same thing ibit gpios <num> |
| 10:05.30 | cr2_ | kiozen: sorry. it was 117 and 118 |
| 10:06.18 | cr2_ | i'll find 10min in the next hours and will create the wiki page. |
| 10:06.18 | kiozen | ok, thanks |
| 10:06.25 | swetland | what're you hacking on? |
| 10:06.30 | kiozen | try toinstall synce :) |
| 10:06.44 | cr2_ | swetland: loox n560. it's a pda |
| 10:06.49 | kiozen | swetland: loox n560 |
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| 10:07.10 | cr2_ | with a pxa270 cpu. easy :) |
| 10:08.25 | swetland | anything particularly interesting about it? |
| 10:09.20 | cr2_ | swetland: it has sirf3 gps. and that's the device kiozen uses |
| 10:09.50 | kiozen | want to get some alternative to satmap active 10 ;) |
| 10:09.54 | swetland | ah |
| 10:10.01 | cr2_ | swetland: htc calls it 'dresden' |
| 10:10.19 | cr2_ | and it's a vga LCD |
| 10:10.48 | swetland | didn't realize they did pxa based stuff |
| 10:11.19 | cr2_ | swetland: before msm and ompa850 they used pxa. |
| 10:11.28 | kiozen | my wife is from dresden :) If I had nown WAF had been much better when purchasing the device |
| 10:11.29 | swetland | ah, before my time |
| 10:11.30 | cr2_ | athena is pxa270 too. |
| 10:11.45 | cr2_ | kiozen: LOL |
| 10:13.43 | cr2_ | swetland: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaResearch |
| 10:14.14 | swetland | was surprised to see how active the linux hacking on various htc stuff was. probably should not be surprising, really |
| 10:14.27 | BabelO_ | swetland: you are the gameboy advance guy ;) |
| 10:14.41 | BabelO_ | swetland: want linux on it ? |
| 10:14.56 | cr2_ | it's the best smartphone hardware one can get |
| 10:15.05 | swetland | on a 17MHz ARM7? seems like overkill |
| 10:15.35 | BabelO_ | swetland: i ran linux on a dragon ball m68k 66Mhz cpu :) |
| 10:15.36 | swetland | yeah, have done a bit of gba hacking, bit of dreamcast stuff. never enough time. need to take a few years off work and spend more time on fun projects |
| 10:15.46 | cr2_ | swetland: linux on garmin 60/76c(s)x is more fun :) |
| 10:16.16 | swetland | mostly 7k for me at the moment. |
| 10:16.32 | cr2_ | it has 16M nor flash and 2MB sram |
| 10:16.37 | cr2_ | and omap cpu |
| 10:16.40 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=60Cx_registers |
| 10:17.14 | BabelO_ | swetland: do you have a HTC phone with omap cpu ? ;) |
| 10:18.40 | swetland | which omap core is that? |
| 10:18.50 | swetland | hard to recognize 'em by part of the register map |
| 10:19.39 | BabelO_ | swetland: i see you post a patch on OMAP850 cpu for ti f sample board, this board have aGPS ? |
| 10:20.01 | cr2_ | swetland: it's probably some custom omap-based asic |
| 10:20.15 | swetland | honestly I'm not sure. haven't mucked around with f-sample in quite a while |
| 10:21.32 | swetland | it had a fair bit of random stuff on it -- being an eval platform |
| 10:23.05 | BabelO_ | i m looking at this http://osdir.com/ml/linux.ports.arm.omap/2006-04/txtzyFLIwPnQN.txt |
| 10:24.15 | swetland | yup. 850 is extremely similar to 730 |
| 10:25.16 | cr2_ | BabelO_: btw, the TS SPI port does not look like a documented 5912 SPI port. |
| 10:25.19 | swetland | ye gods, forgot that thing had NOR flash. wow. |
| 10:26.26 | BabelO_ | cr2_: yes interesting patch ;) |
| 10:27.25 | swetland | ahahah, patches finally made it through moderatio |
| 10:27.26 | cr2_ | BabelO_: yes. why can't it be found elsewhere ? |
| 10:27.26 | swetland | n |
| 10:28.03 | cr2_ | swetland: which patches ? |
| 10:28.04 | swetland | wish I understood why lakml mail I send doesn't actually get back to me. |
| 10:28.14 | swetland | the 7k stuff I sent yesterday morning |
| 10:28.16 | BabelO_ | cr2_: don't know |
| 10:30.43 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 10:30.44 | swetland | http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2007-November/043182.html |
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| 10:32.23 | cr2_ | i wish we had updated the hh.org CVS to .24-rc2 ;) |
| 10:32.34 | swetland | are you against .23? |
| 10:32.44 | swetland | the rebase from .23 to .24 was virtually a no-op |
| 10:32.44 | cr2_ | psokolovsky still can#t be found. |
| 10:32.57 | cr2_ | we are at .21 there :( |
| 10:33.15 | swetland | this stuff might backport okay. not sure about the hrtimer stuff |
| 10:33.28 | cr2_ | and the SD/MMC is heavily restructured. |
| 10:34.17 | cr2_ | yes. i have a sdio gps somewhere, but need to write a host driver first. |
| 10:34.56 | swetland | we've got a bunch more 7k stuff underway. lots to do. |
| 10:35.12 | cr2_ | that's good. |
| 10:35.22 | cr2_ | SD too ? |
| 10:35.30 | swetland | yup |
| 10:35.36 | cr2_ | great. |
| 10:35.42 | swetland | have permission to to gplv2 drivers for most all of the a11 stuff |
| 10:36.04 | cr2_ | makes good sense. |
| 10:36.19 | swetland | best way to do things |
| 10:36.21 | BabelO_ | swetland: why dma is called dmov ? |
| 10:36.29 | swetland | screwing around with binary modules is pure misery |
| 10:36.33 | swetland | datamover |
| 10:36.39 | swetland | it's what the dma engine is called |
| 10:37.12 | cr2_ | hehe. secure dma engine ;) |
| 10:37.14 | swetland | that stuff could use some tidying up. we didn't want to wait forever to start moving toward mainline |
| 10:37.35 | cr2_ | i agree |
| 10:37.38 | BabelO_ | ok |
| 10:37.57 | cr2_ | it's good to present at least something that works. |
| 10:38.03 | swetland | I'm still up in the air about ARCH_MSM vs ARCH_MSM7K or ARCH_MSM7X00 |
| 10:38.25 | cr2_ | is msm62xx very different ? |
| 10:38.34 | swetland | don't know anything about 6K |
| 10:38.37 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 10:39.32 | cr2_ | they are used as separate cpus on many htc phones. |
| 10:39.36 | cr2_ | as the modems. |
| 10:39.42 | swetland | the qualcomm team expressed a preference for ARCH_MSM. we'll see what the lakml feedback looks like |
| 10:39.46 | swetland | yeah |
| 10:40.08 | swetland | believe they're arm9 only (presumably with dsp for baseband, etc), but don't know any details |
| 10:40.46 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 10:41.31 | swetland | friend of mine pointed me here and I saw some of the logs and was happy to see people actually *looking* at the code ^^ |
| 10:41.51 | BabelO | swetland: is jasonche ? |
| 10:42.02 | swetland | the initial lakml response being a debate about the merits of per-soc mailing lists ^^ |
| 10:43.27 | cr2_ | swetland: the code is much better than the .asm dumps ;) |
| 10:43.30 | BabelO | swetland: i look at your old patch for omap850, maybe i can hope some new thing i miss |
| 10:43.57 | cr2_ | arm-dev was always a separate list. |
| 10:44.44 | cr2_ | and at handhelds one mostly discusses the device drivers for pdas. |
| 10:44.58 | swetland | it'd be nice of the silicon vendors were less crazy-secretive about datasheets |
| 10:45.01 | cr2_ | omap tree is really evil. imho. |
| 10:45.23 | cr2_ | yes, i don't understand the position of TI too. |
| 10:45.48 | swetland | large companies are strange beasts, always |
| 10:46.27 | cr2_ | dec was very nice with the SA docs |
| 10:46.38 | cr2_ | intel with pxa too. |
| 10:47.59 | swetland | okay, strange. I see replies to my lakml mails in the web archive but not in my inbox. it is a strange, broken mail week for me for some reason |
| 10:51.02 | BabelO | swetland: what can you say about coment broken irq clearing ? :) |
| 10:51.49 | swetland | I'm going to need to figure out exactly what the bounds of what I can discuss about this stuff is soon, I think... |
| 10:52.20 | swetland | iirc, there's an issue with all edge gpio interrupts in a bank getting cleared when any single one is cleared |
| 10:53.33 | BabelO | swetland: ok we wait monday to ask you more question then ;) |
| 10:54.28 | BabelO | cr2_: what is gps one ? |
| 10:54.30 | swetland | doh |
| 10:54.31 | swetland | We have received some recent bounces from your address. Your current bounce score is 1.0 out of a maximum of 3.0. Please double check that your subscribed address is correct and that there are no problems with delivery to this address. |
| 10:55.51 | mxktmdude | hi guys |
| 10:56.21 | JuNuKN | ~seen ph5 |
| 10:56.35 | apt | ph5 <n=ph5@e178249170.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 12h 42m 59s ago, saying: 'cr2_: do the htcs use external bt chipsets? I think they have bt 2.0 advertised.'. |
| 10:56.35 | cr2_ | BabelO: some agps stuff from qualcomm. |
| 10:57.50 | cr2_ | swetland: imho the SD and TS support are really critical for msm7200. everything else can be sorted out later. |
| 10:57.56 | swetland | TS? |
| 10:58.03 | cr2_ | touchscreen |
| 10:58.57 | swetland | SD is very high on our list as well. |
| 10:59.16 | swetland | it's a popular peripheral interconnect for 7k, seeing as there are 4 SD controllers |
| 11:00.00 | cr2_ | i've worked out the hitachi LCD init, so with the working touchscreen and SD one can already boot something. |
| 11:00.06 | cr2_ | 4 ? hehe. |
| 11:01.19 | BabelO | cr2_: ok i ll look at wiki for this |
| 11:03.17 | cr2_ | swetland: ok, now i get it. there are 2x2 channels. it can be seen from the clock register. |
| 11:04.42 | swetland | er, 7200A is what I'm working with. 7200 is not always identical |
| 11:05.32 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 11:07.07 | kiozen | cr2_: anything I can do next? |
| 11:12.21 | BabelO | kiozen: is suspend / resume working ? |
| 11:12.53 | BabelO | you can try to trace that when connecting over usb ;à |
| 11:13.30 | kiozen | no not working. |
| 11:13.56 | kiozen | the screen gets black, key backlight stays on, needs hard reset |
| 11:14.15 | kiozen | was the first thing I tried :) |
| 11:14.22 | BabelO | kiozen: ok maybe it is like on ba time initialiaztion sequence |
| 11:14.26 | BabelO | :) |
| 11:15.07 | BabelO | kiozen: with haret you can telnet on 9999 and also on 9998 |
| 11:15.17 | mxktmdude | this might be a dumb question, but i have a msn7500 device and since its all i got, i would like to help even in the smallest of ways. cr2_ mentioned to me that we need the cpu docs which ive been unable to find not surprisingly. im not too familiar with kernels etc but is there something that can be done to make even small progress? :) |
| 11:15.23 | BabelO | one to send predefined command and other to start a trace at same time |
| 11:17.21 | cr2_ | kiozen: i'll write the resume driver. you can't trace some parts of it anyway. |
| 11:17.22 | BabelO | kiozen: when you call help on haret console, if i remember well there is some suspend command, or it a cr2 option ;) |
| 11:17.51 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: give swetland some time :) the CPU support is coming soon. |
| 11:18.39 | mxktmdude | cr2_, ive been doing a lot of reading (irc logs and forum) but its hard to wait :) |
| 11:18.44 | kiozen | BabelO: so you want me to make a suspend via haret on wince, right? |
| 11:19.02 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: look at this list here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanMemoryMap |
| 11:20.01 | BabelO | kiozen: yes, youhave to start a trace on a console and then start command to suspend on the other |
| 11:20.09 | mxktmdude | cr2_, ohh looks like some updates |
| 11:20.10 | BabelO | kiozen: ah i remember it is display off command ;) |
| 11:20.17 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: there are some undocumented blocks and '?' there. you can look with haret at these locations and see if (1) something is there (2) if it's used (3) if it's used, then in which context |
| 11:20.32 | kiozen | ok i'll try |
| 11:20.55 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: i've picked some data from the kernel code published by swetland |
| 11:22.20 | cr2_ | BabelO: is there are haret command for global suspend ? |
| 11:22.49 | cr2_ | BabelO: should not be difficult to add if not. |
| 11:22.51 | BabelO | cr2_: wait i check with 0.5 :) |
| 11:23.03 | BabelO | i remember there is a display shut off command |
| 11:24.41 | cr2_ | BabelO: i'm out of sync with the mainline code. |
| 11:25.17 | cr2_ | BabelO: i had code for on/off for wifi/bt/ir/lcd/bkl |
| 11:25.17 | mxktmdude | cr2_, is there a specific version of haret i am to use? i know i remember reading a lot about people using specific builds from a site other than http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET |
| 11:25.51 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: only haret-0.5.0 has some rudimentary support for msm |
| 11:26.06 | cr2_ | others do not have it at all. |
| 11:26.49 | BabelO | cr2_: no it is setlcd only |
| 11:26.55 | cr2_ | gnu-haret has some nice features for pxa/asic3/pasic3/atiw, but i'll port it over. |
| 11:27.16 | cr2_ | BabelO: well, then it needs to be ported. |
| 11:27.52 | cr2_ | the sa11x0 support is already sorted out in 0.5.0 |
| 11:28.03 | cr2_ | so the wiki needs some updates. |
| 11:29.08 | mxktmdude | cr2_, ok thanks, i will read up on haret and figure out how to use it |
| 11:30.41 | BabelO | bbl |
| 11:30.59 | kiozen | setlcd on/off works |
| 11:31.16 | kiozen | setlcd suspend/standby does nothing |
| 11:31.48 | cr2_ | kiozen: which gpios change on setlcd ? |
| 11:31.50 | kiozen | no display command |
| 11:32.04 | kiozen | moment .. |
| 11:32.33 | cr2_ | kiozen: you should also try to separate the LCD power and backlight power. |
| 11:32.55 | cr2_ | the backlight pwm channel (brightness) is known. |
| 11:36.02 | kiozen | grr anyone have a suggestion for a decent console for windows ? |
| 11:36.26 | cr2_ | cygwin+xterm |
| 11:37.18 | cr2_ | kiozen: since gnu-haret works on n560, you can use it too for tracing the wifi/bt/etc on/off. |
| 11:37.38 | cr2_ | but since it's a bit older, it has some command differences with mainline. |
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| 12:09.56 | Nandex | HI, somebody use linux on htc prophet?? |
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| 12:32.50 | goxboxlive | tes |
| 12:33.46 | goxboxlive | test |
| 12:34.01 | goxboxlive | anyone answer me |
| 12:34.06 | goxboxlive | i need to set colors |
| 12:40.40 | BabelO | kiozen: for a windows console use putty |
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| 12:43.23 | Nandex | see rafago.unex.es |
| 12:43.29 | Nandex | http://rafago.unex.es |
| 12:45.30 | goxboxlive | test |
| 12:46.35 | BabelO | goxboxlive: test |
| 12:46.51 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO good |
| 12:46.54 | BabelO | apt test |
| 12:46.55 | apt | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
| 12:47.03 | BabelO | :) |
| 12:47.03 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 12:47.12 | goxboxlive | I am setting up my laptop |
| 12:47.30 | goxboxlive | everytime i move one of my computer screwes up. |
| 13:04.37 | BabelO | cr2_: you see little video, it is from the guy you help few day ago ? |
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| 13:14.59 | cr2_ | BabelO: which little video ? |
| 13:44.00 | kiozen | cr2_: http://pastebin.ca/767095 |
| 13:44.06 | kiozen | lcd off/on |
| 13:45.56 | cr2_ | kiozen: looks good. what about backlight ? |
| 13:46.10 | kiozen | that is lcd and backlight |
| 13:46.24 | kiozen | havent found out how to separate |
| 13:46.30 | kiozen | but wait have an idea ... |
| 13:46.34 | cr2_ | set the "dimp" option |
| 13:46.42 | cr2_ | s/dimp/dim/ |
| 13:47.00 | cr2_ | in 5 sec, and watch the gpio changes. |
| 13:47.13 | cr2_ | LCD will stay on, the backlight will go off. |
| 13:47.26 | kiozen | taht was my idea :) |
| 13:47.31 | cr2_ | :) |
| 13:49.59 | kiozen | cr2_: http://pastebin.ca/767100 |
| 13:50.03 | kiozen | backlight off |
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| 13:53.12 | cr2_ | ok, looks like it's pwm only. |
| 13:53.59 | cr2_ | look for wifi and bt. |
| 13:58.34 | kiozen | cr2_: http://pastebin.ca/767113 |
| 13:58.36 | kiozen | bt on |
| 13:59.04 | kiozen | http://pastebin.ca/767114 |
| 13:59.07 | kiozen | bt off |
| 14:01.56 | BabelO | cr2_: bottom left of this web page http://rafago.unex.es/joomla/ |
| 14:06.36 | kiozen | cr2_: http://pastebin.ca/767124 |
| 14:06.38 | kiozen | wifi on |
| 14:07.05 | kiozen | http://pastebin.ca/767126 |
| 14:07.07 | kiozen | wifi off |
| 14:13.12 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's treo650, not treo750. and it's running opie |
| 14:14.10 | BabelO | cr2_: ah ok ;) |
| 14:14.17 | cr2_ | BabelO: calibrating the screen, it's something for you :) |
| 14:14.44 | BabelO | lol yes, we can start it with qcop command maybe i have to create a script for this ;) |
| 14:14.54 | BabelO | cr2_: what is palm booloader ? |
| 14:15.05 | cr2_ | treo650 is palmos |
| 14:15.06 | BabelO | i user a old c file for my sony clie |
| 14:15.18 | cr2_ | it's like haret, but for palmos |
| 14:15.28 | BabelO | cr2_: yes i know, ok something like uharet |
| 14:15.57 | BabelO | i ve to look for it maybe i can boot my sony clie again it have same ts driver as universal |
| 14:15.58 | cr2_ | kiozen: we are getting closer :) |
| 14:16.22 | cr2_ | BabelO: tsc2046 ? artemis too ? |
| 14:16.43 | BabelO | cr2_: no on my old sony clie T675 C |
| 14:16.49 | BabelO | cr2_: maybe artemis too |
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| 14:31.39 | cr2_ | BabelO: does it compile on qtopia? http://sourceforge.net/projects/navipowm |
| 14:32.10 | BabelO | cr2_: let me try , i have 30mn before cofee time ;) |
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| 14:32.46 | BabelO | cr2_: hey, i can run it on windows mobile too ;) and there is osm converter |
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| 14:46.23 | BabelO | cr2_: they develop under windows ? |
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| 14:49.36 | kiozen | cr2_: one more houre (I hope) for important work. what's next? |
| 14:55.55 | cr2_ | kiozen: i need to create a wiki table. then we will see. |
| 14:56.19 | kiozen | ok |
| 15:02.52 | cr2_ | BabelO: i'd prefer to have a normal makefile. also for wince ;) |
| 15:04.06 | kiozen | bbl |
| 15:04.17 | cr2_ | BabelO: NaviPOWM.pro |
| 15:04.34 | cr2_ | ../src/TargetIncludes.hpp:34: error: conflicting declaration ‘typedef unsigned int size_t’ |
| 15:04.52 | cr2_ | BabelO: have i told you that i hate windows developers ? :) |
| 15:11.34 | BabelO | cr2_: it compile but i have an issue with atoi ??!! |
| 15:11.50 | cr2_ | on whihc platform ? |
| 15:12.01 | cr2_ | i compiled it on amd64 |
| 15:12.01 | BabelO | cr2_: on linux qtopia |
| 15:12.13 | BabelO | atoi is ascii to int |
| 15:13.16 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 15:13.18 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 15:13.30 | cr2_ | atoi is in glibc |
| 15:14.00 | cr2_ | there is no make install ? |
| 15:14.29 | BabelO | don't know i m not at this point |
| 15:14.43 | BabelO | it is a mix of cpp and c |
| 15:15.01 | BabelO | back in few minutes ;) |
| 15:15.13 | cr2_ | std::atoi ? |
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| 15:30.46 | BabelO | cr2_: no just include stdlib.h |
| 15:32.35 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 15:33.00 | cr2_ | post a bug :) |
| 15:33.32 | cr2_ | i've posted anonymously because i've forgot all the sf.net stuff |
| 15:34.28 | BabelO | cr2_: done , compiled on qtopia |
| 15:34.38 | BabelO | missing some settings in pro file but it is ok now |
| 15:34.45 | BabelO | :) |
| 15:34.53 | BabelO | we are goind so fast to compile thing |
| 15:36.36 | BabelO | s/goind/going/ |
| 15:36.41 | cr2_ | :) |
| 15:36.42 | BabelO | or boeing |
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| 15:43.41 | BabelO | cr2_: i try it this evening then i post on their mailing list |
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| 15:46.21 | cr2_ | ok. |
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| 16:09.12 | g0atboy | yo |
| 16:10.03 | g0atboy | does anyone have 5mins for my ppp over UMTS issues on my uni again? |
| 16:10.10 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 16:10.54 | BabelO | cr2_: navipowm compiled on msvc 2005 with few change |
| 16:11.22 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 16:11.50 | g0atboy | have now managed to dialout by taling to /dev/ttyS0, start pppd on /dev/ttyUSB0, gets past auth ack, then cant negotiate an ip |
| 16:12.28 | cr2_ | g0atboy: works with qtopia afaik. ask goxboxlive |
| 16:14.11 | g0atboy | doin it on GPE myself - have X-apps i would like to run |
| 16:15.36 | g0atboy | Nov 9 14:38:40 htcuniversal daemon.debug pppd[1934]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="tmobile" password=<hidden>] |
| 16:15.37 | g0atboy | Nov 9 14:38:40 htcuniversal daemon.debug pppd[1934]: rcvd [LCP DiscReq id=0xa magic=0x950111cb] |
| 16:15.37 | g0atboy | Nov 9 14:38:40 htcuniversal daemon.debug pppd[1934]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ""] |
| 16:15.37 | g0atboy | Nov 9 14:38:40 htcuniversal daemon.notice pppd[1934]: PAP authentication succeeded |
| 16:15.37 | g0atboy | Nov 9 14:38:40 htcuniversal daemon.debug pppd[1934]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15> <deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>] |
| 16:15.39 | g0atboy | Nov 9 14:38:40 htcuniversal daemon.debug pppd[1934]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 0.0.0.0> <ms-dns1 0.0.0.0> <ms-dns3 0.0.0.0>] |
| 16:15.42 | g0atboy | Nov 9 14:38:40 htcuniversal daemon.debug pppd[1934]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0xb 80 fd 01 01 00 0f 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f] |
| 16:15.56 | goxboxlive | g0atboy: use pastebin.ca or something |
| 16:17.03 | g0atboy | sorry, didnt mean 2 spam |
| 16:17.56 | g0atboy | after that last one just goes round trying 2 resend IPCP Confreq |
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| 16:36.33 | g0atboy | goxboxlive: i hear from xda-devs linux on uni thread u have it working? As i have said b4 am willing to write guide for other n00bs like me if i can get it to work, will put it on xda-devs or hh.org wiki |
| 16:37.09 | BabelO | cr2_: how i extract map from OSM ? |
| 16:38.59 | cr2_ | BabelO: you grab the 27GB xml file ;) |
| 16:38.59 | cr2_ | otherwise you can pick the limited tile through their API |
| 16:39.07 | cr2_ | 10x10 km or something like that. |
| 16:41.16 | BabelO | cr2_: 27GB file ... hmmm i can get it, but no update after that :( |
| 16:41.18 | goxboxlive | g0atboy: i had it working, I havent tested it for a while. I used CU to bring it up |
| 16:43.36 | goxboxlive | BabelO: any news from ljp? |
| 16:46.39 | g0atboy | goxboxlive: Yeah, similar here but use picocom to talk to the At command chan on the modem. Its the pppd i'm having trouble with - it gets past authentication but cant get an ip i think |
| 16:47.00 | g0atboy | not to sure - don't know much about ppp |
| 16:50.14 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ljp is maybe on holiday... no more news :( or he is working for google andriod project, maybe based on Qt :) |
| 16:50.47 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:54.34 | BabelO | goxboxlive: did you see this ? http://buildhost.automated.it/screenshots/ |
| 16:58.26 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's 1.2GB compressed http://planet.openstreetmap.org |
| 16:59.21 | BabelO | cr2_: ok, i found how to get osm file for navipowm, with a java app, so i can try when i m back to home |
| 17:00.24 | cr2_ | BabelO: i think that the cutted-green-Q-square is ugly. |
| 17:02.50 | goxboxlive | BabelO: what is it? It's just recular screenshits right? |
| 17:11.19 | GPFerror | whats the ip address hermes build is listening on ? or is it listening ? |
| 17:12.10 | BabelO | GPFerror: i think 192.168.0.202 |
| 17:12.23 | BabelO | GPFerror: default OE value |
| 17:13.34 | GPFerror | ok thx |
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| 19:24.51 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
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| 19:39.57 | Zoolooc | hi folks |
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| 20:14.43 | cr2_ | kiozen: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/LooxC550Hardware |
| 20:16.06 | kiozen | looking... |
| 20:18.40 | kiozen | cr2_: impressive list |
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| 20:22.58 | kiozen | cr2_: what is the next step? Or in other words: What can I do? |
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| 20:31.12 | cr2_ | kiozen: found 2 more gpios. |
| 20:31.41 | kiozen | which ones? |
| 20:32.12 | cr2_ | right now you can't do much. i need to write some drivers. |
| 20:32.18 | cr2_ | i'll add them to the list. |
| 20:32.48 | kiozen | ok, play with wince, google map, bt ... get disappointed because everything sucks.. |
| 20:33.00 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:33.33 | kiozen | and most people are happy with wince? |
| 20:33.52 | cr2_ | can you switch bt/wifi/gps on, insert the SD card and do 'dump gpio' in gnu-haret ? |
| 20:34.13 | kiozen | with no filters? |
| 20:34.42 | kiozen | dump while inserting the SD ? |
| 20:34.49 | kiozen | cr2_ |
| 20:36.03 | cr2_ | no. just with the inserted card. |
| 20:36.14 | kiozen | ack |
| 20:36.21 | cr2_ | otherwise the SD driver will be unloaded. |
| 20:37.08 | kiozen | cr2_: filters? |
| 20:38.49 | cr2_ | no, just a dump |
| 20:40.08 | kiozen | cr2_: http://pastebin.ca/767528 |
| 20:40.56 | goxboxlive_ | cr2_: have you solder your A780 yet? |
| 20:41.10 | cr2_ | goxboxlive_: no time. |
| 20:41.18 | goxboxlive_ | k |
| 20:41.34 | cr2_ | goxboxlive_: is there linux software to access gps ? |
| 20:41.54 | goxboxlive_ | cr2_: not that o know of |
| 20:41.59 | cr2_ | linux == free |
| 20:42.23 | cr2_ | there is something that works with mux14 |
| 20:42.26 | goxboxlive_ | :-) |
| 20:42.32 | cr2_ | does the phone work now ? |
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| 20:43.27 | goxboxlive_ | cr2_: i have no idea. I havent tested it for some days now. I have been moving and have just got my internet connection up. |
| 20:44.02 | cr2_ | kiozen: the gpio56 is something sound related. you can run 'playsound N' in one haret connection while tracing in the other. |
| 20:44.06 | cr2_ | goxboxlive_: ok. |
| 20:44.42 | cr2_ | kiozen: it may be the codec power, or reset. all other gpio lines are understood. |
| 20:45.01 | kiozen | ok try to log it ... |
| 20:53.46 | kiozen | cr2_: http://pastebin.ca/767545 |
| 20:55.18 | cr2_ | kiozen: too much spam. |
| 20:55.30 | cr2_ | mask the I2S pins |
| 20:56.09 | cr2_ | there is some tricky logic of SD host sharing between the SD card and wifi it seems. |
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| 20:56.29 | webcordes | hello |
| 20:57.29 | kiozen | ibit gpios 64 68 71 72 73 77 58 59 10 28 113 64 66 68 70 72 73 77 32 61 63 17 65 69 60 67 62 24 25 26 23 75 74 16 30 31 |
| 20:58.03 | cr2_ | kiozen: i2s |
| 20:58.28 | kiozen | oops wrong line to pate, sorry |
| 20:58.30 | cr2_ | 28,29,30,31 and 113 |
| 20:58.43 | kiozen | blush :) |
| 20:59.16 | webcordes | are there any achievements with hermes? I took a look in the wiki but there's only old comments on it |
| 21:00.39 | cr2_ | webcordes: not yet. Kevin has a vacation for a week, then he'll look at the TS and keyboard. the TS actually works if enabled, but i don't know how good. |
| 21:01.06 | cr2_ | i'm looking at the ATI SD and will make a test in the next days. |
| 21:01.31 | webcordes | cr2_: so you guys active about hermes? i think a bout getting one |
| 21:01.55 | webcordes | what is TSß |
| 21:02.35 | cr2_ | touchscreen |
| 21:02.50 | webcordes | how about keyboard? |
| 21:03.09 | cr2_ | it's relatively easy. i've already tracked the keycodes. |
| 21:03.15 | webcordes | and gsm? |
| 21:03.25 | cr2_ | as on the universal. |
| 21:03.44 | cr2_ | =will work. |
| 21:03.52 | webcordes | I hope I can find one at german provider |
| 21:04.24 | kiozen | cr2_: no gpios while playing sound |
| 21:04.26 | kiozen | ? |
| 21:04.53 | webcordes | somebody selling his hermes? |
| 21:05.04 | cr2_ | kiozen: strange. |
| 21:05.13 | kiozen | mybe I masked them |
| 21:05.28 | cr2_ | webcordes: if i'll sell, you'll be without linux support :) |
| 21:05.40 | kiozen | but I rebuild my idle gpio mask list. same result |
| 21:05.42 | cr2_ | and it's not mine actually ;) |
| 21:06.11 | cr2_ | kiozen: ok. good to know. |
| 21:10.09 | webcordes | ah damn german voda want 200 euros with contract |
| 21:10.19 | webcordes | 600 w/o |
| 21:11.11 | cr2_ | what about kaiser ? |
| 21:11.45 | cr2_ | webcordes: how does vodafone call it ? |
| 21:12.57 | webcordes | erm vodafone is mda vario 2 |
| 21:13.17 | webcordes | sorry im confused |
| 21:13.23 | webcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes |
| 21:13.32 | cr2_ | hm. no wifi on kaiser ? |
| 21:13.38 | webcordes | cr2_: is't kaiser qualcomm? |
| 21:14.05 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 21:14.09 | cr2_ | O2 Xda Trion / T-Mobile MDA Vario II / Vodafone 1605 VPA Compact III |
| 21:14.20 | cr2_ | damn marketologists. |
| 21:14.36 | webcordes | haha yea |
| 21:15.00 | webcordes | I can't afford kaiser anyways i think |
| 21:16.15 | cr2_ | T-Mobile MDA Vario III |
| 21:16.20 | cr2_ | typo at xda-dev ? |
| 21:16.29 | cr2_ | or is it a different phone ? |
| 21:17.19 | webcordes | hermes wiki says mda vario ii not iii |
| 21:17.31 | webcordes | with t mobile it is 120 |
| 21:18.48 | cr2_ | what is iii ? |
| 21:19.00 | webcordes | 3 |
| 21:19.10 | webcordes | 3 is tytn2 i guess |
| 21:20.35 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 21:20.48 | cr2_ | htc shift is a monstrosity. |
| 21:21.21 | webcordes | http://www.t-mobile.de/suche?qt=vario&vgn_form_encoding=ISO-8859-1&ugu=0 |
| 21:21.47 | cr2_ | 120+240 |
| 21:21.50 | webcordes | yes |
| 21:22.01 | cr2_ | 360 |
| 21:22.09 | cr2_ | hmm. |
| 21:22.18 | webcordes | 120 will be ok if i sell old samsung sgh d600 |
| 21:22.40 | cr2_ | well, -20 |
| 21:23.04 | cr2_ | Bei Online-Bestellung gibt es automatisch: |
| 21:23.04 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.10 | cr2_ | so 340 |
| 21:24.11 | webcordes | 340 360 what you mean? |
| 21:24.45 | cr2_ | the minimal price. |
| 21:25.17 | cr2_ | you pick the cheapest contract and do not use it. |
| 21:25.30 | cr2_ | i usually buy phones this way ;) |
| 21:27.10 | cr2_ | webcordes: hmm. it's not so simple. |
| 21:28.10 | webcordes | how much is that 340 contract? |
| 21:28.51 | cr2_ | i miscalculated it. |
| 21:29.04 | cr2_ | it seems 240+240 is the cheapest i can find. |
| 21:29.48 | webcordes | I need new contract anyways. Don't have rx with eplus at my flat |
| 21:30.04 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 21:30.20 | cr2_ | found one where you can call for these 10€/mon |
| 21:30.44 | cr2_ | ok. i have already enough phones ;) |
| 21:31.59 | cr2_ | kaiser may be interesting, but certainly not worth its price. |
| 21:32.27 | cr2_ | ATI. i need an ATI driver... |
| 21:32.47 | webcordes | ATI? |
| 21:33.27 | cr2_ | yes, hermes has an ati chip. video+cam+sound+sd |
| 21:33.41 | webcordes | how sweet |
| 21:34.29 | cr2_ | yes, but nothing is documented or supported. |
| 21:34.34 | cr2_ | yet. |
| 21:35.05 | webcordes | what you mean yet? isn't there evil disclosure stuff so no details will be released? |
| 21:35.45 | cr2_ | i'll make video and sd work. |
| 21:35.51 | cr2_ | that's more or less clear. |
| 21:36.05 | cr2_ | ati cam is a problem since himalaya. |
| 21:36.22 | cr2_ | just not worth the pain, i guess. |
| 21:36.27 | webcordes | I hope I will be able to contribute |
| 21:37.00 | cr2_ | sound is probably a must, but i#m not going to work on it soon. |
| 21:37.16 | Zoolooc | cr2_, waht do you think of my price calculation when I got my kaiser now? needed a new contract anyway, was sick after 8 yeras of t-mobile and got the kaiser from handyattacke.de for 199 + a "free power" contract for 25/month including 120 minutes at freenetMobile, and I'm not even going to use more than those 120 minutes |
| 21:37.27 | cr2_ | webcordes: coding is the easy part. |
| 21:37.55 | cr2_ | Zoolooc: it depends on how much you call per month. |
| 21:38.14 | cr2_ | ok. so 200+25*24 ? |
| 21:38.42 | cr2_ | =800 |
| 21:38.51 | Zoolooc | yes, didn't want to pay the whole price at once, and those minutes will fit |
| 21:38.53 | webcordes | expensive shit |
| 21:39.28 | Zoolooc | if I had the money right now, I might have gotten it for 640 or something, still expensive like shit |
| 21:39.38 | cr2_ | 340+240=580 |
| 21:39.45 | cr2_ | and no wifi ?? |
| 21:39.49 | webcordes | what does it have that hermes doesn't? |
| 21:40.00 | Zoolooc | who says no wifi? |
| 21:40.02 | webcordes | uuuh no wifi that`s no go |
| 21:40.09 | cr2_ | i'm asking |
| 21:40.27 | cr2_ | don't know what's inside. |
| 21:40.34 | Zoolooc | I have the htc, not some braindead (branded) provider shit :-) |
| 21:40.56 | webcordes | Connectivity: Bluetooth 2.0, WiFi 802.11b/g, HTC ExtUSB |
| 21:40.59 | webcordes | kaiser== |
| 21:41.04 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 21:41.09 | Zoolooc | t-mobile and maybe even o2 used to castrate htc phones when they sold it under their own branding |
| 21:41.24 | webcordes | reflash |
| 21:41.33 | cr2_ | yes, i see. that's probbably you may get it cheaper then. |
| 21:41.49 | cr2_ | webcordes: there were models without wifi before . |
| 21:41.54 | cr2_ | blueangel for exmaple. |
| 21:42.09 | webcordes | no idea that`s just what xda dev wikii says |
| 21:42.32 | cr2_ | there is even an athena without the second cam. bastards, they saved 5€ probably :) |
| 21:42.57 | Zoolooc | yes, so the're doing with kaiser |
| 21:43.24 | webcordes | ineed$ |
| 21:57.36 | PITABoy | so what is the news |
| 21:59.09 | cr2_ | kiozen: still here ? |
| 21:59.11 | PITABoy | sounds like cr2_ is making progress |
| 21:59.29 | cr2_ | PITABoy: on the n560, which is not a phone. |
| 21:59.38 | PITABoy | oh :-( |
| 21:59.46 | kiozen | cr2_ yup |
| 22:01.47 | cr2_ | kiozen: are you logged over wifi ? |
| 22:01.53 | cr2_ | to n560 |
| 22:02.11 | kiozen | yes |
| 22:02.47 | cr2_ | is the data going over sdio/mmc pins ? |
| 22:03.20 | cr2_ | you need to mask the backlight pwm and the unknown pwm only. |
| 22:03.26 | cr2_ | and then trace over a minute. |
| 22:03.34 | cr2_ | will you see some gpio changes ? |
| 22:03.41 | cr2_ | without doing anything. |
| 22:03.50 | kiozen | i try it ... |
| 22:04.31 | PITABoy | this sucks the mac address of the mogul is 00-18-41-xx-xx-xx and is registered to high tech computer corp |
| 22:04.57 | PITABoy | this sucks becuase it tells us nothing about the chipset |
| 22:05.20 | cr2_ | D3 state. is it suspend ? |
| 22:08.32 | kiozen | cr2_ if I just mask gpio 17 I will see tons of gpio changes |
| 22:09.14 | cr2_ | gpio16 too. |
| 22:09.42 | kiozen | yes |
| 22:09.48 | cr2_ | ok, so what changes ? |
| 22:10.04 | cr2_ | bt off, gps off |
| 22:10.13 | kiozen | yes |
| 22:10.17 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 22:11.29 | kiozen | the stuff I pasted to the wrong command line are all idle gpios |
| 22:11.29 | cr2_ | D3 is sleep. |
| 22:11.40 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.41 | cr2_ | ? |
| 22:11.45 | kiozen | yes |
| 22:12.05 | PITABoy | cr2_ do you still have that "private" dump of the titan |
| 22:12.27 | PITABoy | do you know how it was made??? haret??? if so what did he do to dump it? |
| 22:12.33 | cr2_ | PITABoy: you can do it yourself. |
| 22:12.49 | cr2_ | 32MB SRAM and 64MB DRAM. |
| 22:13.10 | PITABoy | what do i type into my default.txt |
| 22:14.16 | cr2_ | pwf sram 0x0 0x2000000 |
| 22:14.25 | cr2_ | it'll dump 32MB on the card. |
| 22:14.43 | cr2_ | pwf dram 0x10000000 0x4000000 |
| 22:14.53 | cr2_ | will dump 64MB on the card. |
| 22:19.35 | cr2_ | kiozen: found wifi reset pin. |
| 22:21.05 | kiozen | :) reset is always good. have done this a lot lately ;) |
| 22:21.27 | cr2_ | kiozen: your device is very important. you have a 54mbit acx100 on the pxa sdio, and linux .24 supports pxa sdio host. we may get live debug info. |
| 22:22.10 | kiozen | always a pleasure to help |
| 22:22.14 | cr2_ | and since the code is not from htc, it looks very sane :) |
| 22:22.39 | kiozen | good old German engineering? |
| 22:22.42 | kiozen | guess not |
| 22:22.56 | cr2_ | who knows. |
| 22:23.26 | cr2_ | it's written very linux-style. |
| 22:23.39 | cr2_ | very easy to understand the .asm :) |
| 22:23.59 | kiozen | :) big companies are these days more linux than one might expect |
| 22:24.51 | kiozen | I help pushing them into the right direction each day |
| 22:25.50 | cr2_ | :) |
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| 22:29.17 | PITABoy | i'm dumping (i think) about how long should it take to dump??? |
| 22:29.55 | PITABoy | nvm |
| 22:30.05 | cr2_ | PITABoy: 96MB to the SD. |
| 22:32.01 | PITABoy | ok |
| 22:32.10 | PITABoy | how do I open them?? notepad? |
| 22:32.20 | PITABoy | I'm curently on a windows machine |
| 22:32.31 | cr2_ | no, they are binary |
| 22:32.42 | PITABoy | oh |
| 22:33.06 | PITABoy | so how do I open them? I'm guessing that I have to decompress them somehow |
| 22:34.50 | cr2_ | 'strings' on linux. |
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| 22:35.03 | PITABoy | i will look at that |
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| 22:45.00 | PITABoy | it opens with wordpad |
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| 22:54.26 | PITABoy | cr2_ what is usefull in these dumps??? |
| 22:54.47 | PITABoy | and where is the personal data? |
| 22:56.08 | PITABoy | well I found my phoen number but that is about it so far |
| 22:57.15 | PITABoy | dram has my name |
| 22:57.46 | PITABoy | there is also some html code |
| 22:58.04 | PITABoy | looks like my emails |
| 22:58.23 | dcordes | PITABoy, what's the machine? (just curious= |
| 22:58.40 | PITABoy | it is a sprint mogul aka titan |
| 23:00.56 | PITABoy | if I get ambishous I might reset my device therefore removing all inportant info like emails and phonebooks the only inportant stuff would be like the msl code and voicemail number I would then change that to [msl] or [my number] etc and upload it to some forum or wiki |
| 23:01.52 | PITABoy | does anyone know where there is a colaborative wiki for the mogul or titan? I have been posting on the xda forums |
| 23:02.05 | cr2_ | HTC_SN, ESN, CDMA_LOCKCODE, IMSI, etc. |
| 23:02.35 | PITABoy | yeah I was going to take off the battery write down all numbers and x them out |
| 23:03.12 | dcordes | PITABoy, ah one of the qualcom ones? |
| 23:03.16 | dcordes | tytn2? |
| 23:03.24 | PITABoy | the msm7500 |
| 23:03.25 | PITABoy | yes |
| 23:03.39 | PITABoy | it is made by htc for sprint |
| 23:04.11 | dcordes | and for like 40 providers |
| 23:04.18 | PITABoy | yeah |
| 23:04.39 | PITABoy | actually no |
| 23:04.57 | PITABoy | there arent even that many providers that use cdma |
| 23:05.16 | dcordes | what's that? |
| 23:05.41 | PITABoy | there are two or more differnet cellular technologys |
| 23:05.53 | PITABoy | gsm and cdma are the two most popular |
| 23:06.10 | dcordes | ah i see ok |
| 23:06.16 | PITABoy | gsm is pretty much everywhere except usa it is only in some parts of usa |
| 23:06.21 | dcordes | in usa is cdma right? |
| 23:06.24 | PITABoy | cdma rules in the usa |
| 23:06.28 | dcordes | I see |
| 23:06.28 | PITABoy | yes |
| 23:06.33 | dcordes | you in the states? |
| 23:06.36 | PITABoy | yes |
| 23:06.43 | dcordes | how much did you pay? |
| 23:06.48 | PITABoy | like 600 |
| 23:07.04 | PITABoy | i already had a contract so i had to pay full price |
| 23:07.14 | PITABoy | that is 600usd btw |
| 23:07.23 | PITABoy | where are you europe? |
| 23:07.42 | dcordes | mine is ending this month and I will get a new one with the phone (not sure which one yet though) |
| 23:07.44 | dcordes | germany |
| 23:07.53 | PITABoy | oh |
| 23:08.31 | PITABoy | I might actually get the neo1973 by open moko if i used gsm |
| 23:09.12 | PITABoy | well actually it is made by fic for openmoko |
| 23:09.23 | dcordes | I am think about the neo but it lacks some hardware I'd like |
| 23:09.31 | PITABoy | oh |
| 23:12.29 | PITABoy | what is the cdma lockcode |
| 23:12.33 | PITABoy | and the imsi |
| 23:14.42 | PITABoy | i know that this is a stupid question but... |
| 23:15.04 | PITABoy | what can someone do with my esn? they can clone my phone and use my account right??? |
| 23:18.40 | PITABoy | also what is important about the msl other than the being able to program the phoen |
| 23:27.12 | PITABoy | I should go to a sprint store and bring haret on a sd card and run it on their mogul and upload that unedited ;-) |