| 00:10.01 | goxboxlive | well i'm off. |
| 00:16.38 | Hymie | ok |
| 00:16.42 | Hymie | well |
| 00:16.44 | Hymie | screw the line and the screen size |
| 00:16.47 | Hymie | I can't find the file |
| 00:16.55 | Hymie | and if I use 'find' to search the whole partition |
| 00:17.08 | Hymie | something happens and locks up my entire box, and yes.. it's baked, and no, I don't have time to fix that right now |
| 00:17.21 | Hymie | although it sure would be nice if someone could tell me 100% the real file name... but anyhow |
| 00:17.25 | Hymie | I'll test for now |
| 00:17.28 | Hymie | just to see if it boots |
| 00:17.33 | Hymie | into q2 |
| 00:19.59 | cr2 | Hymie: you can do one useful thing in haret for me. |
| 00:20.57 | Hymie | er, this can't mount ext3? |
| 00:21.05 | Hymie | EXT2-fs: mmcblk0p1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4). |
| 00:21.29 | cr2 | maybe the kernel doesn't have ext3 support. |
| 00:21.32 | cr2 | i'll check. |
| 00:21.59 | cr2 | # CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR is not set |
| 00:21.59 | cr2 | # CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP is not set |
| 00:21.59 | cr2 | # CONFIG_EXT3_FS is not set |
| 00:22.05 | Hymie | bleck |
| 00:22.05 | Hymie | ok |
| 00:22.05 | Hymie | sec |
| 00:22.10 | Hymie | I'll copy with ext2 |
| 00:22.13 | cr2 | i'll recompile |
| 00:22.28 | Hymie | ok, I'll wait |
| 00:22.38 | Hymie | better to have journalling anyhow |
| 00:23.46 | Hymie | cr2: this is really painful.. it is like getting a woman's bra off, but she won't let you go any further |
| 00:23.56 | Hymie | to see linux on this phone, but not yet be able to use it.. is pain like that ;) |
| 00:24.13 | Hymie | it's like dating a catholic girl |
| 00:24.39 | cr2 | done |
| 00:25.26 | cr2 | Hymie: hacking the phones and morality are too different things |
| 00:26.23 | Hymie | cr2: is just a joke.. here, catholic women won't let you have actual sex, that is... years ago |
| 00:26.35 | Hymie | they would do many things, but not actual penetration |
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| 00:27.00 | Hymie | maybe this is the wrong place for this talk ;) |
| 00:29.08 | Hymie | hmm |
| 00:29.13 | Hymie | it is just sitting there |
| 00:29.42 | Hymie | weird |
| 00:29.51 | Hymie | trying to mount that parition locked it up |
| 00:29.59 | Hymie | even though we mounted vfat before |
| 00:31.15 | Hymie | hmm |
| 00:31.23 | Hymie | can you think of any reason why it would barf on this ext3? |
| 00:31.27 | Hymie | solid lockup |
| 00:33.39 | Hymie | hmm |
| 00:33.39 | Hymie | yes |
| 00:33.41 | Hymie | lockup |
| 00:33.45 | Hymie | ok, I will reformat with ext2 |
| 00:33.50 | Hymie | maybe there was a reason for ext3 no go |
| 00:36.31 | Hymie | booting |
| 00:37.21 | Hymie | utterly bizarre |
| 00:37.29 | Hymie | it locks with ext* filesystems |
| 00:37.31 | Hymie | any idea wtf? |
| 00:39.56 | cr2 | no. |
| 00:40.33 | BabelO | rootdelay ? |
| 00:40.36 | cr2 | nothing is wrong with the catholic women |
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| 00:41.19 | cr2 | BabelO: there is some weirdness in the SD driver. |
| 00:41.30 | BabelO | what is feature(4) ? |
| 00:41.46 | Hymie | cr2: weird thing though, I even tested it when using my win32 flash disk... I cated some files, vi'd some others.. all seemed fine |
| 00:42.37 | cr2 | there was some comment about BUG() on ext2 |
| 00:42.54 | cr2 | but i've changed block size to 512 as it was written |
| 00:42.59 | cr2 | do you have a smaller card ? |
| 00:43.31 | BabelO | cr2: or you can fake card driver like you do for ba image ? |
| 00:43.41 | BabelO | rawwrite with dd |
| 00:43.43 | Hymie | cr2: no, I only have 2, 2GB cards |
| 00:43.47 | Hymie | and stores are closed tonight |
| 00:43.49 | Hymie | :/ |
| 00:44.03 | cr2 | BabelO: it does not matter |
| 00:45.36 | Hymie | hmm, I can cat the device fine! |
| 00:45.44 | Hymie | so, maybe it is ext2/3 |
| 00:46.05 | Hymie | hmm |
| 00:46.11 | Hymie | we could use reiser or soemthing |
| 00:46.12 | BabelO | good night |
| 00:46.12 | Hymie | I guess |
| 00:46.17 | cr2 | BabelO: is it possible to do jffs2 rootfs ? |
| 00:46.23 | BabelO | cr2: yes |
| 00:46.35 | cr2 | ok. maybe worth a try. |
| 00:46.39 | BabelO | there is a lot at angstrom-distribution.org |
| 00:46.42 | Hymie | cr2: right now, all I do is boot with your kernel and try to mount this... |
| 00:46.53 | Hymie | cr2: should I be booting into that userland or soemthing? |
| 00:47.06 | Hymie | or just pivot-root or something? |
| 00:47.10 | BabelO | cr2: i think there is a universal jffs2 image, i see it few days ago |
| 00:47.25 | cr2 | Hymie: hm. maybe i'd create an image without the ramdisk |
| 00:47.39 | cr2 | but it's too late ;) |
| 00:48.01 | cr2 | an .exe without the ramdisk |
| 00:48.13 | cr2 | well. i'll go to bed too. |
| 00:48.15 | cr2 | good night |
| 00:48.20 | Hymie | ok, l8r! |
| 00:48.30 | BabelO | this one http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/h4000/20070929/ |
| 00:48.35 | BabelO | good night again |
| 00:51.00 | Hymie | wait a minute |
| 00:51.01 | Hymie | wtf |
| 00:51.14 | Hymie | it's trying to do something here |
| 00:51.14 | Hymie | this time, when I use ext2 |
| 00:51.14 | Hymie | I see |
| 00:51.29 | Hymie | "/init: 47 cannot careate /sys/class./graphics/fb0-/con |
| 00:51.33 | Hymie | rotate: permission denied |
| 00:51.35 | Hymie | hmm |
| 00:51.38 | Hymie | sysfs isn't mounted |
| 00:51.41 | Hymie | I will try that!@ |
| 00:54.27 | Hymie | hmm |
| 00:54.32 | Hymie | I don't think it is failing as it was before |
| 00:54.49 | Hymie | although, even with sysfs mounted, it still has problems making /sys/class/grpaghics/fb0/con |
| 00:55.01 | Hymie | it probably does a pivot-root |
| 00:55.05 | Hymie | and that kills the network |
| 00:55.06 | Hymie | or something |
| 00:55.07 | Hymie | hmm |
| 00:55.09 | Hymie | sec |
| 00:56.04 | Hymie | hey |
| 00:56.15 | Hymie | when I unplug then plug in the USB now, I get "hello world" on the thing |
| 01:04.14 | Hymie | cr2: ok, so .. the problem si that as soon as I mount the ext2 partition, it instantly starts to boot from it, which doesn't work, so I'm stuck... |
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| 01:10.09 | cr2 | Hymie: i've uploaded treo750-linuxSD.exe |
| 01:10.52 | Hymie | cr2: any ideas on what the opie2 image I have does when it gets 'booted'? |
| 01:11.25 | cr2 | the usual linux /etc/init.d stuff |
| 01:11.51 | cr2 | then qtopia4 starts, and updates its db. it takes then some time to finish. |
| 01:11.58 | Hymie | cr2: well, as soon as I mount it, your first image starts to boot from it, tries to start.. |
| 01:11.59 | Hymie | yes... |
| 01:12.01 | cr2 | try the SD.exe |
| 01:12.03 | Hymie | but, it can't boot |
| 01:12.04 | Hymie | ok |
| 01:12.05 | Hymie | will do |
| 01:12.06 | Hymie | sec |
| 01:12.12 | cr2 | it will mount root off your SD |
| 01:12.26 | cr2 | hm. wait. |
| 01:12.33 | cr2 | i've made a mistake |
| 01:12.57 | cr2 | ok. now |
| 01:15.10 | Hymie | hmm |
| 01:15.10 | Hymie | ok |
| 01:15.11 | Hymie | well |
| 01:15.12 | Hymie | it booted |
| 01:15.14 | Hymie | now it sits |
| 01:16.07 | Hymie | hmm |
| 01:16.20 | Hymie | according to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:16.24 | Hymie | it should have 192.168.0202 |
| 01:16.27 | Hymie | it should have 192.168.0.202 |
| 01:16.28 | Hymie | but, not go |
| 01:16.41 | Hymie | ah |
| 01:16.41 | Hymie | dude |
| 01:16.45 | Hymie | do the kernel versions match? |
| 01:16.52 | Hymie | otherwise it couldn't load modules |
| 01:17.25 | Hymie | is the USB stuff compiled in the kernel? |
| 01:18.36 | cr2 | yes. |
| 01:18.47 | cr2 | the versions do not match |
| 01:18.53 | Hymie | I don't know what IP it has though |
| 01:18.56 | Hymie | I tried 202, 206 |
| 01:19.03 | cr2 | because you use the kernel for universal |
| 01:19.26 | cr2 | we need the modules in initramfs, i've told that 100000000000000 times |
| 01:19.26 | Hymie | right, userland and kernel can match later |
| 01:19.38 | Hymie | yes, it would be nice ;) |
| 01:19.44 | Hymie | but |
| 01:19.45 | cr2 | afaik it's .202 |
| 01:19.46 | Hymie | anyhow |
| 01:19.48 | Hymie | yeah |
| 01:19.50 | Hymie | no go though |
| 01:19.58 | cr2 | but maybe goxboxlive did not enable it. |
| 01:20.07 | cr2 | it was so on the universal some time ago ;) |
| 01:20.14 | Hymie | well |
| 01:20.18 | cr2 | what do you see on the screen ? |
| 01:20.26 | Hymie | as I said, I see 202 in etc/network/interfacs |
| 01:20.28 | Hymie | and auto for usb0 |
| 01:20.29 | Hymie | I see |
| 01:20.32 | cr2 | ok. |
| 01:20.39 | Hymie | oprife: using timer interrupt |
| 01:20.42 | Hymie | TCPcubic registered |
| 01:20.43 | cr2 | lsusb ? |
| 01:20.47 | Hymie | NTET: registered protocol family 1 |
| 01:20.55 | Hymie | how? |
| 01:21.02 | cr2 | on the desktop |
| 01:21.02 | Hymie | I have no powers of typing |
| 01:21.04 | Hymie | oh |
| 01:21.13 | Hymie | no, I can get ifconfig no probs with usb0 |
| 01:21.16 | Hymie | it's ok on this side |
| 01:21.20 | Hymie | and on the other too |
| 01:21.23 | Hymie | we have a connection |
| 01:21.26 | cr2 | ping ? |
| 01:21.28 | Hymie | but, I have no idea what the IP is |
| 01:21.29 | Hymie | nope |
| 01:21.33 | cr2 | .202 |
| 01:21.34 | Hymie | no ping on 202 or 206 |
| 01:21.44 | cr2 | ifconfig usb0 ? |
| 01:21.55 | Hymie | as I said, she's fine on this side |
| 01:21.56 | Hymie | at 200 |
| 01:22.25 | cr2 | what does lsusb say ? |
| 01:22.34 | cr2 | when you plug usb in and out |
| 01:22.43 | cr2 | does something pop up on the LCD ? |
| 01:22.57 | cr2 | there should be a dmesg string |
| 01:22.58 | Hymie | weird |
| 01:23.03 | Hymie | each time I unplug and plug in the usb cable |
| 01:23.08 | Hymie | another line appears on my screen |
| 01:23.16 | Hymie | this last one is 'waiting 5sec before mounting root device |
| 01:24.06 | cr2 | did it mount the root ? |
| 01:24.17 | Hymie | yes |
| 01:24.19 | Hymie | it says |
| 01:24.39 | Hymie | ext2-fs waring .. checktiem reached... running e2fsck is recommended... |
| 01:24.48 | Hymie | then we have usb0 lines |
| 01:24.54 | Hymie | one for each time I plugged unplugged |
| 01:24.55 | Hymie | ah! |
| 01:24.56 | cr2 | ok |
| 01:25.01 | Hymie | it thinks my screen is longer! |
| 01:25.10 | Hymie | 240x240 |
| 01:25.15 | Hymie | so, I miss 1/3 the action |
| 01:25.21 | Hymie | and it is scrolling up as I plug in out the usb |
| 01:25.27 | Hymie | because that makes new messages |
| 01:25.37 | Hymie | each time I plug/unplug, I get a usb connectmessage |
| 01:25.53 | Hymie | but |
| 01:25.57 | Hymie | still I can't ping 206 or 202 |
| 01:26.41 | cr2 | ah ;) |
| 01:26.57 | cr2 | i need to change the vsfb params too ;) |
| 01:27.02 | Hymie | # nmap -e usb0 -sP 192.168.0.0/16 10.0.0.0/8 |
| 01:27.09 | Hymie | we see if any IP is alive ;) |
| 01:27.14 | cr2 | yes, your FB is screwed. |
| 01:29.38 | cr2 | ok. good night for real. |
| 01:29.48 | Hymie | hehe |
| 01:29.49 | Hymie | night |
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| 04:57.14 | PITABoy | hey guys I'm back |
| 04:59.19 | PITABoy | i need a crosscompile toolchain to build the kernel. |
| 04:59.39 | PITABoy | anyone know where i can get one in tar.gz format or something simular |
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| 09:42.03 | sadeness | ooops, wrong channel, sorry:-) |
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| 15:02.00 | welp | hey BabelO |
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| 15:09.25 | welp | BabelO: any chance i can get some help from you for a bit? :) |
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| 15:16.02 | BabelO | welp: yes |
| 15:16.11 | BabelO | hello kiozen |
| 15:16.23 | kiozen | hi |
| 15:17.45 | welp | BabelO: i'm in need of some help getting the wireless working... just a moment, and i'll go through what i've done so far |
| 15:20.11 | welp | right, so far i've checked ifconfig -a, no wireless devices listed there at all, i've run modprobe hostap, which claims that it couldn't find the module, and i have also run modprobe acx, which made no difference to the ifconfig -a output |
| 15:21.18 | welp | do you have any idea what's going on at all? |
| 15:22.29 | welp | could it be due to some sort of soft switch? i.e. i should have the wireless switched on before booting linux, or something along those lines? |
| 15:29.29 | BabelO | welp: is it qtopia4.3.0 image ? |
| 15:29.57 | welp | no, it's the gpe image, but i've got the modules stuff from the qtopia image |
| 15:30.16 | BabelO | do you have pccardctl command ? |
| 15:31.03 | welp | yes |
| 15:31.56 | welp | oh, and in other news, i've ordered a mains charger for my PDA, which comes with plugs for various foreign countries, as well as for 12V in-car sockets :) |
| 15:32.19 | BabelO | welp: so just pccardctl eject to be in a clean state |
| 15:32.24 | BabelO | then pccardctl insert |
| 15:32.38 | BabelO | after that you have iwconfig available to set up your wifi |
| 15:35.03 | welp | hmm, dmesg says that a pc card was 'inserted', but ifconfig -a doesn't show anything, and iwconfig shows no devices with wireless extensions |
| 15:36.00 | BabelO | pccardctl status |
| 15:36.12 | BabelO | elese do pccardctl jeject then modprobe acx |
| 15:37.02 | welp | Socket 0: 5.0V 16-bit PC Card |
| 15:37.11 | BabelO | and pccardctl info ? |
| 15:37.53 | welp | PRODID_{1..4}="" |
| 15:38.08 | welp | MANFID=0000,0000 |
| 15:38.17 | welp | FUNCID=255 |
| 15:38.41 | BabelO | cool :) you have to modprobe acx then pccardctl insert or simple use qtopia image, i have to build again gpe image |
| 15:39.07 | welp | me will try the qtopia image. |
| 15:39.11 | welp | eer |
| 15:43.27 | welp | if you want me to help out with building the gpe image, testing, or anything else, lemme know and i'll see what i can do |
| 15:44.07 | BabelO | welp: yes any help is welcome ;) do you know openembedded ? |
| 15:44.26 | welp | i've heard about it and read a bit about it, but i don't really know much about it |
| 15:44.39 | BabelO | welp: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 15:44.48 | BabelO | you need enought disk space |
| 15:45.10 | welp | hmmmm |
| 15:45.15 | welp | will have to sort that bit out |
| 15:45.24 | welp | else, i'll use a remote machine i have access to |
| 15:45.42 | welp | (does openembedded need a GUI, or can it all be done in console mode?) |
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| 15:50.23 | welp | BabelO: is this the one: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/O.P.I.E-II/Angstrom-HTC_BlueAngel-Roadmap-4.3.0.tar.gz ? |
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| 16:14.15 | cr2 | BabelO: why don't you add the pccardctl into /etc/init.d/wifi or something ? |
| 16:14.34 | cr2 | hehe. where is koizen when one needs him |
| 16:15.02 | welp | who is koizen? (excuse my ignorance if he's someone of importance ;)) |
| 16:15.08 | cr2 | i've looked at the c550 |
| 16:15.10 | cr2 | kiozen |
| 16:15.20 | welp | eer, kiozen, that's the one |
| 16:15.34 | BabelO | cr2: i add it to newer image but gpe was made before pcmcia driver |
| 16:15.51 | cr2 | the kernel is a bit primitive, but i've found other useful things. |
| 16:15.55 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. |
| 16:16.18 | BabelO | welp: you have to wait once qtopia is loaded, on first boot , it work a long time in background |
| 16:16.19 | cr2 | if kiozen will get the device, then it should be easy. |
| 16:16.34 | cr2 | btw, it has 54mbit acx100 |
| 16:16.49 | welp | wow, qtopia looks *so* flashy compared to gpe |
| 16:20.05 | cr2 | welp: qtopia4 is a blessed thing for free software on the phones. |
| 16:20.25 | cr2 | we only need to fix our bugs ;) |
| 16:23.24 | BabelO | welp no graphic terminal in qtopia at the moment, just console mode , you are free to add menu entry if you want ;) |
| 16:23.26 | cr2 | init 3 ;) |
| 16:23.39 | BabelO | no init 3 |
| 16:23.43 | cr2 | ? |
| 16:23.47 | BabelO | bad :( over ssh ;) better |
| 16:24.06 | BabelO | welp: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.201 on your computer |
| 16:24.08 | cr2 | BabelO: in the middle of nowhere ? |
| 16:24.55 | welp | but, won't that kill my wireless? or, won't ssh try to use my wireless rather than the usb connection? |
| 16:25.15 | BabelO | cr2: you just say that because you dislike this black theme .. lol like me |
| 16:25.46 | cr2 | yes, it's too dark. |
| 16:25.51 | BabelO | welp : you have to setup it before, you can try with qtopia, but actually qtopia only support cardmgr |
| 16:27.05 | cr2 | m$ spent good money on the wince color design. i find it ok. |
| 16:27.20 | cr2 | what i have is the motorola font on a780 ;) |
| 16:27.27 | cr2 | s/have/hate/ |
| 16:29.23 | BabelO | welp: button touchscreen should be ok, maybe some bad mapping on button |
| 16:29.57 | welp | wtf, this ain't coming back on... |
| 16:30.13 | welp | i just took the battery out when it went into standby mode |
| 16:30.39 | welp | now nothing seems to work.. hard reset (i.e. hold power button down and press reset button), soft reset, nothing |
| 16:31.36 | welp | oh, *phew*, just put it in the cradle, and it came back on.. |
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| 16:32.02 | cr2 | kiozen: hi |
| 16:32.15 | kiozen | your are calling ? :) |
| 16:32.20 | cr2 | yes. |
| 16:32.33 | cr2 | i was busy with your n560 |
| 16:32.40 | kiozen | me too, installed oe |
| 16:32.46 | welp | BabelO: i think i prefer gpe to qtopia ;) |
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| 16:32.51 | kiozen | device is scheduled for tomorrow |
| 16:32.59 | cr2 | looked what was already done, and what needs to be done. |
| 16:33.13 | cr2 | ok, i've already have a plan what do i need from you. |
| 16:33.42 | cr2 | some things are easier to do with haret than RE. |
| 16:33.54 | kiozen | guess I need the looxc550 config |
| 16:34.11 | cr2 | i think i'll create the n560 config |
| 16:34.19 | cr2 | the number is already registered. |
| 16:34.23 | BabelO | welp: maybe, but wifi is working with this one ;), i try to make a clean image on evening for you if i can |
| 16:34.33 | cr2 | and we need to cross-check what they have done. |
| 16:34.52 | welp | BabelO: ok, any chance you could possibly go through how you make new images so i can get the hang of it, maybe? |
| 16:35.22 | kiozen | ok I am just at the stage where they want me to edit local.conf |
| 16:35.34 | cr2 | kiozen: and we need to fill some wiki pages. the c550 wiki is really bad, but has some useful info |
| 16:36.04 | cr2 | ok. i'm talking about the kernel, it has nothing to do with oe, really . |
| 16:38.24 | kiozen | thought kernel is part of oe |
| 16:38.51 | cr2 | yes, but the kernel may be developed separately. |
| 16:38.59 | cr2 | or even should be. |
| 16:39.17 | kiozen | ok, where to start |
| 16:39.29 | cr2 | btw, the qtopia4 is a separate package built with its own tools. |
| 16:39.43 | cr2 | you want to compile a kernel ? or qtopia4 ? |
| 16:39.53 | cr2 | about qtopia4 ask BabelO |
| 16:40.00 | kiozen | guess I have to compile both |
| 16:40.10 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:40.16 | cr2 | the kernel is in hh.org CVS |
| 16:40.25 | cr2 | don't mess with oe for that. |
| 16:40.44 | kiozen | what is oe good for, just apps? |
| 16:40.46 | cr2 | just get a toolchain, or compile the toolchain in oe. |
| 16:40.52 | cr2 | i use the toolchain from oe. |
| 16:41.03 | cr2 | yes, building all possible apps. |
| 16:41.13 | cr2 | like the gdal .ipk |
| 16:41.24 | cr2 | without OE it will be a real PITA ;) |
| 16:41.41 | kiozen | ok, do you have an example local.conf? |
| 16:42.21 | kiozen | I mean one more tailored to n560 than the basic one |
| 16:42.47 | cr2 | http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux/oe/ |
| 16:43.04 | cr2 | really tailored will be the kernel |
| 16:43.15 | cr2 | everything else should be more or less standard. |
| 16:44.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive is our oe man :) |
| 16:44.57 | cr2 | i've not compiled a distro for many months |
| 16:48.32 | kiozen | with PREFERRED_PROVIDERS no gcc stuff? |
| 16:49.12 | cr2 | no. |
| 16:49.17 | cr2 | the default will be used. |
| 16:50.15 | kiozen | opie is the windows manager, isn't it? |
| 16:51.19 | cr2 | yes. it's qte2 |
| 16:51.41 | cr2 | think of it as qt3. |
| 16:51.48 | welp | gtk ftw *hides* |
| 16:52.44 | cr2 | welp: call me when gtk will be ported to wince :) |
| 16:53.00 | welp | i don't know your number ;) |
| 16:53.51 | kiozen | cr2: MACHINE = "htcuniversal" ? |
| 16:54.00 | cr2 | ok, i have nothing against gtk. |
| 16:54.20 | cr2 | kiozen: it's mainly the kernel. should not matter for you. |
| 16:54.30 | cr2 | yes. |
| 16:54.33 | welp | eew |
| 16:54.34 | welp | :( |
| 17:00.05 | BabelO | welp: winCE is Windows Counter Edition, it is an incremental number each year ... lol |
| 17:02.01 | welp | ah, heh |
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| 17:07.03 | kiozen | bitbake nano |
| 17:07.53 | kiozen | this brings my gentoo experiment back into my mind :) |
| 17:09.19 | cr2 | kiozen: the kernel compiles cleanly. |
| 17:09.30 | cr2 | but needs many enhancements. |
| 17:10.04 | kiozen | :) work for years ... |
| 17:10.09 | cr2 | no. |
| 17:10.27 | kiozen | decades 8) |
| 17:10.29 | cr2 | i have found a big list of gpios. |
| 17:10.46 | cr2 | i only need some input from you. |
| 17:10.54 | cr2 | to make suspend/resume work |
| 17:11.07 | cr2 | the sound codec is supported by ASOC |
| 17:11.07 | kiozen | can you make bitbake to use 2 CPUs |
| 17:11.26 | cr2 | yes, but i don't remember how. |
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| 17:13.08 | kiozen | grr buggy xserver with SuSE |
| 17:15.14 | kiozen | cr2: after "bitbake nano" the tools should be installed, aren't they? |
| 17:16.07 | cr2 | the cross-tools are in tmp/cross/bin |
| 17:18.45 | kiozen | looks like this takes ages, time to eat .... |
| 17:19.01 | cr2 | yes. |
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| 18:15.20 | cr2 | wince sucks. |
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| 18:26.28 | cr2 | if i insert the usb stick, wince calls stat() recursively for all directories ;) |
| 18:26.36 | cr2 | and all files. |
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| 18:29.05 | pH5 | heh |
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| 18:33.46 | cr2 | pH5: hacking on the ATI ;) |
| 18:34.08 | cr2 | and get some good, and some strange results. |
| 18:34.27 | pH5 | cr2: ati mmc? |
| 18:34.52 | cr2 | no. clocks |
| 18:34.57 | cr2 | pll: ref_dev(M)=0 div_int(N_int)=27 div_frac(N_frac)=0 lock_time=5 Fout=28*xtal |
| 18:35.08 | cr2 | pclk: pixclk_src=1 pixclk_div=8 |
| 18:35.12 | cr2 | these are ok. |
| 18:35.36 | cr2 | margins: xrest=0 yrest=65527 left=1023/1023 right=0/0 up=0/0 down=65467/65467 |
| 18:35.41 | cr2 | completely bogus |
| 18:35.55 | cr2 | sclk: sysclk_src=1 sysclk_div: fast=4 slow=6 |
| 18:36.05 | cr2 | does not match atihwtbl0.txt |
| 18:45.47 | cr2 | hehe. got the api right :) |
| 18:45.51 | cr2 | ATI mmPLL_REF_FB_DIV = 0x05101b00 |
| 18:47.19 | cr2 | i really like that on athena. |
| 18:47.35 | cr2 | just use the usb stick. no weird sd cards ;) |
| 18:48.33 | cr2 | ATI ctx* =0x4a412b00 / 0xa763cb00 |
| 18:48.37 | cr2 | ATI Width = 480 |
| 18:48.37 | cr2 | ATI Height = 640 |
| 18:48.38 | cr2 | ATI PixelFormat = 0x5 |
| 18:48.38 | cr2 | ATI Frequency = 60 |
| 18:48.38 | cr2 | ATI Rotation = 0 |
| 18:48.38 | cr2 | ATI Mirror = 0 |
| 18:48.52 | cr2 | now. how do i rotate the screen ... |
| 18:48.58 | GPFerror | whats the status of herm-linux-20070930.exe ? seems to boot into busybox with some errors and then i have to remove my battery to get back to my phone, am I doing something wrong or is this the current status? |
| 18:49.50 | cr2 | GPFerror: no. because the ATI SD driver is missing. |
| 18:50.17 | cr2 | GPFerror: can you check the TS ? |
| 18:50.40 | cr2 | i've compiled a newer version yesterday. |
| 18:50.54 | cr2 | hmm. i've adjusted the LCD for 240x240 ;) |
| 18:50.54 | GPFerror | i can try it |
| 18:51.01 | cr2 | i'll recompile now. |
| 18:52.11 | cr2 | ATI ctx* =0x4a412b00 / 0xa763cb00 |
| 18:52.15 | cr2 | ATI Width = 480 |
| 18:52.15 | cr2 | ATI Height = 640 |
| 18:52.15 | cr2 | ATI PixelFormat = 0x5 |
| 18:52.15 | cr2 | ATI Frequency = 60 |
| 18:52.16 | cr2 | ATI Rotation = 0 |
| 18:52.16 | cr2 | ATI Mirror = 0 |
| 18:52.29 | cr2 | hm. interesting ;) |
| 18:52.41 | cr2 | wince does not use the HW rotation ??? |
| 18:53.54 | cr2 | the screen is in the landscape format now. |
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| 19:01.51 | cr2 | pH5: are the hh.org mailing lists alive ? i've sent a test message yesterday, and didn't get anyhting back. |
| 19:03.09 | cr2 | GPFerror: http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret |
| 19:04.47 | pH5 | cr2: I got a message from kernel-bugs today, but I assume kernel-discuss is still dead. |
| 19:04.59 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:05.30 | cr2 | pH5: what do you think is TftCli ? |
| 19:07.09 | cr2 | 0x100bc =0x00000000 cliclk |
| 19:07.25 | cr2 | seems to be off. it's a good sign. |
| 19:07.48 | cr2 | 0x100c4 =0x02000000 pwr |
| 19:07.48 | cr2 | 0x100d0 =0x600006b0 clk_i2s_pll |
| 19:07.48 | cr2 | 0x100d4 =0x0000408b clk_i2s_pll |
| 19:07.48 | cr2 | 0x100d8 =0x00100007 i2sclk |
| 19:07.48 | cr2 | 0x100dc =0x000180cb i2sclk |
| 19:08.19 | cr2 | this is unducumented too. |
| 19:08.23 | cr2 | 0x100a0 =0x00000011 pll |
| 19:08.23 | cr2 | 0x100b4 =0x110001d6 clk_pll |
| 19:08.23 | cr2 | 0x100b8 =0x0000408c clk_pll |
| 19:11.46 | cr2 | GPFerror: did you get the file ? |
| 19:12.55 | BabelO | cr2: maybe handhelds.org provide something for the november :) |
| 19:14.14 | pH5 | cr2: if you google "TFT CLI" you'll see that people refer to the phone's LCDs this way. My next best guess is that CLI goes back to the "caller line identification". |
| 19:15.18 | pH5 | which is probably wrong |
| 19:15.22 | pH5 | CL = crystal liquide? |
| 19:15.23 | cr2 | BabelO: you mean google bought the opie1(tm) ;) |
| 19:15.35 | cr2 | pH5: yes, it's something in the ATI |
| 19:15.53 | cr2 | pH5: i may be something like MDDI |
| 19:15.56 | BabelO | cr2: he :) we don't know until monday |
| 19:16.03 | cr2 | s/i /it/ |
| 19:16.44 | cr2 | BabelO: i'll stick to qtopia4. |
| 19:17.05 | cr2 | bare metal is better than some fancy virtual machine. |
| 19:17.16 | cr2 | better == faster |
| 19:17.48 | cr2 | and HTC need a year to make linux run on their phone. |
| 19:19.03 | cr2 | hm. it becomes even more interesting to create a working zimage for kaiser :) |
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| 19:23.52 | kiozen | cr2: compiled tools |
| 19:24.48 | kiozen | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi hope that is the right one :) |
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| 19:27.45 | cr2 | yes. |
| 19:28.16 | cr2 | kiozen: do you have wince-gcc ? |
| 19:29.20 | kiozen | not that I know |
| 19:29.27 | kiozen | link? |
| 19:30.37 | cr2 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/cegcc |
| 19:30.53 | cr2 | then you can package the zimage+stuff into wince .exe |
| 19:31.25 | kiozen | ok, never new what to do with all the GB until today |
| 19:33.43 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:34.55 | kiozen | a good place to install it? mix it with oe? guess not. |
| 19:36.52 | cr2 | no. |
| 19:42.11 | cr2 | BabelO: http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=4676 |
| 19:43.02 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm wondering how it'll compare to roadmap. the OSM tiles can be used too :) |
| 19:44.24 | BabelO | cr2: i just see about on a tv channel ;), now waiting coment t #android ;) |
| 19:45.43 | cr2 | BabelO: i prefer athena :) |
| 19:45.55 | cr2 | though it has a smaller (vga) screen. |
| 19:46.24 | cr2 | BabelO: i guess it'll be an msm7200 based device. |
| 19:47.03 | cr2 | somehow i think ATI is better at video accel than samsung :) |
| 19:47.50 | cr2 | you can even guess what LCD will be used. |
| 19:48.08 | BabelO | i think too, if you look at their alliance, there is nvidia ;) |
| 19:48.38 | cr2 | i doubt there are not that many MDDI 480x800 LCDs on the market. |
| 19:48.56 | cr2 | nvidia will die before releasing any useful driver source ;) |
| 19:49.21 | BabelO | cr2: i ll try to ask about processor ;) |
| 19:49.47 | cr2 | i wish AMD was not so dumb, and has released the imageon docs RSN. |
| 19:50.57 | cr2 | BabelO: the choice is between msm7xxx and the pxa clone from Marvell |
| 19:51.22 | cr2 | somehow HTC has more experience with msm7xxx now |
| 19:51.35 | cr2 | and the arm9 phone already runs linux. |
| 19:52.25 | cr2 | and it's certainly cheaper to produce than a pxa+msm combo like uni/athena |
| 19:52.49 | cr2 | i guess athena was the last "wasteful" device :) |
| 20:02.16 | kiozen | cr2: winnt.h:3918: error: conflicting types for ‘size_t’ |
| 20:02.34 | kiozen | in latest version 0.5 |
| 20:03.18 | kiozen | confilcting with |
| 20:03.34 | kiozen | usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.2.1/include/stddef.h |
| 20:06.06 | welp | feh, can't install psyco on 64bit... |
| 20:06.22 | welp | will have to free up some space on my gentoo/freebsd machine for OE, then |
| 20:08.25 | cr2 | kiozen: is it while compiling gdb ? |
| 20:08.32 | kiozen | yes |
| 20:08.48 | cr2 | it's a known bug. you don't need gdb anyway. |
| 20:09.06 | cr2 | i guess the cross-tools are there. |
| 20:09.46 | kiozen | looks like gdb is the last thing to compile |
| 20:09.54 | cr2 | i don't know how capable is gdb on wince. |
| 20:09.56 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:10.11 | kiozen | ok installed |
| 20:10.17 | kiozen | next ? |
| 20:10.23 | cr2 | get haret |
| 20:10.49 | cr2 | from hh.org CVS |
| 20:11.03 | cr2 | and the kernel |
| 20:13.11 | kiozen | the 2.6 I guess |
| 20:13.16 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:13.29 | cr2 | 2.4 is dead for any sane person |
| 20:14.22 | cr2 | pH5: have i already posted the old link to g4 source ? |
| 20:21.53 | BabelO | kiozen: for size_t error maybe it is a bad define with stdlib.h |
| 20:22.32 | kiozen | it's defined twice, my system's include path and in the gdb path |
| 20:22.49 | kiozen | don't like gdb anyway |
| 20:23.02 | cr2 | BabelO: the cross-gdb should not include both |
| 20:24.05 | cr2 | kiozen: it's possible to compile roadmap_editor for wince with gcc. |
| 20:24.19 | kiozen | cr2: is it enough to put oe's toolchain bin dir into my path? |
| 20:24.21 | cr2 | with some minor patches ;) |
| 20:24.22 | kiozen | :) |
| 20:24.42 | cr2 | kiozen: you don't really need it. |
| 20:24.51 | cr2 | the kernel can be compiled with |
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| 20:25.06 | cr2 | PATH=~/stuff/tmp/cross/bin/:$PATH CROSS_COMPILE=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- make |
| 20:25.44 | kiozen | is it ok to move tmp/cross to /opt/arm |
| 20:25.56 | kiozen | would prefere that more |
| 20:26.04 | cr2 | why not. |
| 20:26.21 | kiozen | direct dependencies :) |
| 20:27.02 | cr2 | don't know |
| 20:27.50 | kiozen | let's see |
| 20:28.19 | kiozen | gosh cvs the kernel takes long |
| 20:33.28 | cr2 | BabelO: http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/pdaxrom/src/AtiCore-1.0.2.tar.bz2 ? |
| 20:33.40 | BabelO | ? :) |
| 20:34.14 | kiozen | cd2: haret Makefile from CVS only for mingw32ce? |
| 20:34.39 | kiozen | cr2: haret Makefile from CVS only for mingw32ce? |
| 20:34.47 | BabelO | cr2: really cool, maybe to integrate directfb and qtopia |
| 20:35.14 | cr2 | BabelO: it needs to be more c-friendly. |
| 20:35.41 | cr2 | BabelO: do you know what is PM4 ? SetupPM4 |
| 20:35.54 | cr2 | kiozen: yes. it's free software :) |
| 20:36.31 | cr2 | PM4_Microcode |
| 20:37.09 | cr2 | BabelO: they could have converted this IDA dump in a bettery way ;) |
| 20:37.22 | kiozen | should it compile with cegcc, too? Wrong CVS rep? |
| 20:39.53 | cr2 | kiozen: mingwce is cegcc ? |
| 20:40.28 | cr2 | BabelO: AtiCore_SetGPIO_Data |
| 20:41.08 | BabelO | cr2: yes they do same work as you ;) |
| 20:43.52 | cr2 | they are lame :) |
| 20:43.55 | cr2 | LDRR3, =(aPM4_Microcode+4) |
| 20:44.02 | cr2 | that's not nice. |
| 20:44.15 | cr2 | i would be ashamed to release such asm dumps. |
| 20:44.36 | cr2 | it's not that difficult to convert this code to C. |
| 20:45.10 | cr2 | unfortunately the w228x is a bit different ;) |
| 20:45.18 | cr2 | not everything matches. |
| 20:46.13 | cr2 | BabelO: here is an example: |
| 20:46.17 | cr2 | MOVR0, #0 |
| 20:46.17 | cr2 | MOVR1, #0x4C0 |
| 20:46.17 | cr2 | MOVR2, #4 |
| 20:46.17 | cr2 | SUBR3, R11, #0x2C |
| 20:46.17 | cr2 | BLReadRegDirect |
| 20:47.17 | cr2 | i use this in haret now: |
| 20:47.20 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.20 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.20 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.20 | cr2 | 0x84 is mmPLL_REF_FB_DIV |
| 20:48.32 | cr2 | i just need to put the full list into a header. |
| 20:52.16 | cr2 | that's interesting |
| 20:52.21 | cr2 | AtiCore_Polyline |
| 20:53.47 | cr2 | BabelO: this .asm is rather trivial, compared to the hirrible mess in the wince driver. |
| 20:54.41 | cr2 | alphablend and pm4 operation. |
| 20:57.26 | BabelO | there is a lot of functionnality for this small card |
| 20:58.37 | cr2 | LDRR3, =0x57411002 |
| 20:58.48 | cr2 | that's not nice. |
| 20:58.57 | cr2 | the chip is is hardcoded. |
| 20:59.48 | welp | BabelO: how much disk space is needed for openembedded/making images? |
| 20:59.53 | cr2 | if we'll put together all w100 sources, that may help. |
| 21:00.33 | BabelO | welp: console is around 7GB |
| 21:00.40 | welp | how about gpe? |
| 21:05.06 | welp | BabelO: excellent, i got access to a quad-xeon machine with 750gig free :)) |
| 21:05.32 | cr2 | BabelO: no irq handling, no IDCT. most of this stuff i've seen in the other C driver code. |
| 21:10.58 | kiozen | ok haret compiled, guess that is enough for today. good night. |
| 21:18.20 | cr2 | welp: 750Gig RAM ? :) |
| 21:20.04 | BabelO | welp: xeon is old :) |
| 21:20.27 | BabelO | welp: i was waiting because i start du . -k -h on my OE directory, but not finished :( |
| 21:22.47 | NAiL | xfs? |
| 21:23.23 | welp | cr2: nah, disk space :P |
| 21:23.31 | welp | quad-2.8ghz ain't *too* shabby |
| 21:24.08 | welp | BabelO: lol, must be big if du is taking so long :P |
| 21:24.58 | cr2 | welp: running a parallel build on a linux machine with 64GB RAM and 16 CPUs is nice. |
| 21:25.16 | welp | i'm not surprised ;) |
| 21:25.55 | BabelO | welp: eh eh 22G this is my OE direcotry |
| 21:25.56 | cr2 | but i only have a dual opteron with 8GB as a desktop ;) |
| 21:26.24 | welp | amd's best for "big boy's toys" kinda things |
| 21:26.47 | welp | but i think intel's quite good for the average desktop user kinda thing these days |
| 21:28.52 | cr2 | welp: i hate 32bit cpus. |
| 21:29.13 | cr2 | i used alpha since 1993 |
| 21:29.33 | welp | but doesn't psyco not work on non-32bit arches? |
| 21:29.38 | cr2 | well, for a phone it's ok. |
| 21:30.05 | cr2 | openoffice and firefox used to be buggy shit too ;) |
| 21:30.59 | welp | they seem to be mostly ok on 64bit these days |
| 21:31.23 | cr2 | on amd64 |
| 21:31.45 | cr2 | with 32bit "emulation". |
| 21:32.48 | cr2 | BabelO: what does qtopia want from accelerated fb ? |
| 21:33.33 | BabelO | cr2: don't know, i just read a small howto.. it need a librarie directfb i suppose |
| 21:34.19 | BabelO | cr2: http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Qtopia/DirectFB |
| 21:36.27 | welp | "Building every package in the repository (NOTE: This will take a very long time and needs approx. 35 GB disk space):" yow |
| 21:36.47 | welp | ooh, apparently gcc takes 6 minutes to build on this machine |
| 21:36.53 | welp | takes >4 hours on my laptop... |
| 21:37.15 | cr2 | lol |
| 21:45.39 | cr2 | BabelO: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-November/011380.html |
| 21:47.45 | BabelO | cr2: farce is only on april ;) for fish... |
| 21:47.52 | cr2 | :) |
| 21:48.37 | welp | BabelO: so, you or someone else updates the .dev brance of OE, and then you'll build a new image from those updates? |
| 21:49.23 | BabelO | welp: no i can't update but you can send patch to angstrom-distribution.org i think |
| 21:50.28 | cr2 | BabelO: did you compile the new qtopia image ? i'm a bit tired od .asm, and still don't understand the ati clocks. |
| 21:50.38 | BabelO | cr2: anyway google have money to make a big farce ;) |
| 21:51.14 | BabelO | cr2: the new one is the one at linuxtogo.org i upload it one day before qtopia4.3.0 released |
| 21:53.21 | BabelO | cr2: so new phone have gps sirf + cpu qualcomm + graphic nvidia + bt broadcom ? + wifi ti + touchscreen synaptics ? + flash disk marvell ? :) |
| 21:53.53 | welp | huuh? i'm getting errors from mtn about OE.mtn being laid out to an old schema? |
| 21:53.57 | BabelO | cr2: and intel for condensator, resistor ... lol |
| 21:54.25 | cr2 | BabelO: it was a joke :) we will wait and see. |
| 21:54.37 | welp | got monotone-0.35 installed atm |
| 21:54.40 | BabelO | welp: yes you have to download oe db unpack it at the right place , export some environment variable |
| 21:55.31 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, google has the cash. but unlike the popular belief, that doesn't always translate into brains ;) |
| 21:56.09 | welp | BabelO: i've unpacked it, but i can't update it |
| 21:56.41 | BabelO | did you set this one ? export BBPATH=/local/OE/build:/local/OE/org.openembedded.dev |
| 21:57.02 | BabelO | OE.mtn should be in /local/OE |
| 21:58.08 | welp | why would i need to set environment variables for bitbaker when i'm merely trying to update the OE db? |
| 21:58.50 | BabelO | don't know i just follow documentation and i start this for update : |
| 21:59.02 | BabelO | mtn --db=/local/OE/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev |
| 21:59.08 | BabelO | mtn --db=/local/OE/OE.mtn checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 21:59.57 | welp | yeah, that's what i'm doing, but i get: mtn: misuse: database /mnt/750-2/welp/1/OE.mtn is laid out according to an old schema |
| 22:00.15 | welp | mtn: misuse: try 'mtn db migrate' to upgrade |
| 22:00.33 | welp | mtn: misuse: (this is irreversible; you may want to make a backup copy first) |
| 22:01.05 | BabelO | migrate command works ? |
| 22:01.18 | welp | ooh, no, just worked out why though |
| 22:01.25 | welp | just a moment, lemme test this again |
| 22:03.23 | welp | aaha, working now |
| 22:05.16 | BabelO | cr2: roadmap works well on my latest image at linuxtogo :) |
| 22:08.41 | cr2 | nice. |
| 22:08.48 | cr2 | can you post the link ? |
| 22:08.55 | cr2 | ~htcpxa ? |
| 22:09.09 | BabelO | cr2: first time :) |
| 22:09.15 | BabelO | cc1plus: internal compiler error: in add_path, at c-incpath.c:362 |
| 22:10.02 | BabelO | cr2: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/O.P.I.E-II/ |
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| 22:11.20 | PITABoy | hello |
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| 22:38.55 | cr2 | BabelO: it's called .gz but is .bz2 |
| 22:39.19 | BabelO | really ? maybe i do tar cvjf then :) |
| 22:39.43 | cr2 | ./lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 |
| 22:39.43 | cr2 | ./lib/libBrokenLocale-2.5.so |
| 22:39.54 | cr2 | is something like that really needed ? |
| 22:40.16 | cr2 | ./usr/share/roadmap/usstates.txt |
| 22:40.16 | cr2 | ./usr/share/roadmap/app_a02.txt |
| 22:40.26 | BabelO | cr2: don't now i start from angstrom-console, add needed thing for roadmap and my messenger app |
| 22:40.31 | cr2 | i hope we will remove this dependancy soon :) |
| 22:40.36 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:40.48 | cr2 | but we should keep 30MB goal in mind. |
| 22:41.04 | cr2 | ./usr/share/alsa/cards/VIA686A.conf |
| 22:41.04 | cr2 | ./usr/share/alsa/cards/VIA8233.conf |
| 22:41.12 | BabelO | lol |
| 22:41.13 | cr2 | this stuff is redundant too. |
| 22:42.01 | PITABoy | is it true that haret only reconizes the msm7500 but is unable of booting it? |
| 22:42.19 | cr2 | ./boot/zImage-2.6.21-hh5 |
| 22:42.19 | cr2 | ./boot/zImage-2.6.16-hh9 |
| 22:42.19 | cr2 | ./boot/zImage |
| 22:42.48 | cr2 | BabelO: is the QtSQL used ?? |
| 22:43.08 | BabelO | cr2: i think yes by sqlite and contact db |
| 22:43.25 | cr2 | PITABoy: haret loads the binary blob in RAM and jumps to it. |
| 22:43.29 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. |
| 22:43.43 | cr2 | BabelO: but the QtScript is not used ? |
| 22:45.02 | BabelO | no |
| 22:45.34 | cr2 | BabelO: there are init 2 and init 3 scripts. |
| 22:45.54 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.30 | cr2 | BabelO: i need hh5 or hh9 ? |
| 22:46.33 | BabelO | cr2: i need to create a postproc scripot that clean image after OE build then ? |
| 22:46.45 | cr2 | probably yes. |
| 22:46.47 | BabelO | no it is hh11 |
| 22:46.52 | cr2 | to remove a lot of junk |
| 22:46.55 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.56 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.56 | cr2 | 1439 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1466180 5. Jun 14:01 /media/qtopia4/boot/zImage-2.6.21-hh5 |
| 22:46.58 | BabelO | i don't remove zimage in boot folder |
| 22:47.16 | cr2 | 2.5MB junk ;) |
| 22:47.20 | BabelO | zImage is at linuxtogo same place /lib/modules / ? |
| 22:47.30 | BabelO | yes yes lot of thing to do |
| 22:47.30 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:47.40 | BabelO | i just want to provide a running image |
| 22:47.58 | cr2 | ok. i agree. |
| 22:48.19 | cr2 | i'd like to define a core system to fit into 30MB |
| 22:48.34 | cr2 | then there will be a real ground to flash it. |
| 22:49.11 | pH5 | cr2: sorry, I was distracted for a moment |
| 22:49.30 | pH5 | no, you didn't post the olde g4 src links yet, at least not while I was around |
| 22:49.58 | cr2 | pH5: me too. i need to decode the BL gpio setup too. |
| 22:50.29 | cr2 | http://hands.com/~lkcl/hp6915/g4.c |
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| 22:50.36 | pH5 | thanks |
| 22:50.58 | cr2 | pH5: i can send you the cleaned g3.c code |
| 22:51.13 | cr2 | but it's necessary to remove the SPL loader chunk from it. |
| 22:51.21 | cr2 | it's really redundant. |
| 22:51.48 | pH5 | ok |
| 22:52.10 | cr2 | because my g3.c code is much more readable. |
| 22:53.09 | cr2 | and it's 95% C |
| 22:53.30 | PITABoy | cr2 can you tell me more about how haret works? |
| 22:54.31 | pH5 | cr2: have you seen the docg3.c in the typhoon modules.git tree? |
| 22:54.36 | cr2 | PITABoy: in short ? it is not doing anything useful. just loads the code into RAM and kills wince in a sane way. |
| 22:54.42 | cr2 | pH5: no. |
| 22:55.04 | cr2 | pH5: where can i get it ? |
| 22:55.06 | pH5 | git-clone http://manwe.homelinux.org/~glaurung/modules.git/ |
| 22:55.22 | cr2 | pH5: ok. |
| 22:55.30 | pH5 | that is from vivien chapellier's site. |
| 22:56.22 | cr2 | pH5: yes. my code is the IPL loader translation into C. it's certainly suboptimal for the general case. but still better than nothing. |
| 22:56.30 | pH5 | s/p/pp/s/ll/l/ |
| 22:56.45 | PITABoy | also can you tell me if I compiled my kernel correctly to boot with haret. I downloaded the handhelds.org kernel source moved to the kernel directory did a make ARCH="arm" CROSS_Compile="the/path/to/arm-linux-" menuconfig then I did a make zImage |
| 22:57.00 | PITABoy | CROSS_COMPILE* |
| 22:58.27 | cr2 | pH5: interesting. i need to check it with my wiki list. |
| 22:59.28 | cr2 | pH5: in g4 some undocumented regs are displaced. |
| 23:00.01 | cr2 | PITABoy: in principle yes. but which zimage are you going to boot ? |
| 23:00.24 | PITABoy | what do you mean which zimage am I going to boot? |
| 23:00.34 | PITABoy | it only makes one afaik |
| 23:01.58 | cr2 | which cpu mtype ? |
| 23:03.45 | pH5 | PITABoy: that means, what arm processor type would you select in menuconfig, as msm7500 support does not exist yet? |
| 23:04.56 | pH5 | cr2: so I have to compare the G4IPL loader with your G3 code. |
| 23:05.23 | PITABoy | oh |
| 23:05.43 | cr2 | PITABoy: you may trash a lot of CPU stuff by loading a kernel for a different arch. That's why you need to do tracing with haret first. before loading anything. |
| 23:06.14 | PITABoy | I chose the TI OMAP2420 which is supposed to have the same core ARM1136EJ-S |
| 23:06.27 | pH5 | PITABoy: a processor does not only consist of the core |
| 23:06.30 | cr2 | PITABoy: i've decoded a lot of msm7x00 subsystems (see TitanMemoryMap wiki page), but not the core CPU stuff. |
| 23:06.50 | pH5 | there are also the clock subsystems, all the peripheral controller registers, ram, etc.etc. which are usually in completely different places. |
| 23:06.53 | PITABoy | and how do you do tracing with haret? |
| 23:07.13 | pH5 | cr2 found out the msm7500 is probably more similar to s3c24xx processors peripheral-wise. |
| 23:07.23 | cr2 | PITABoy: look at the cdmatech picture of the CPU. msm7x00 is a microcontroller with a lot of subsystems. 1136EJ is a very small part. |
| 23:08.24 | PITABoy | I know that it has a lot of other stuff but I thought that if we could atleast boot a kerenl on the core then we could use that to do a dmsg |
| 23:08.33 | cr2 | PITABoy: you select some unknown address range from the list, and do 'addlist mmutrace <start ADDRESS> <size> |
| 23:08.58 | pH5 | PITABoy: unfortunately many of those other subsystems are needed even for basic operation |
| 23:09.10 | cr2 | and then try either trace the routine operation, or try to provoke some hardware events. |
| 23:09.13 | BabelO | cr2: http://www.audience.com/ do you see this society ???society seem to be new on the market and is part of android |
| 23:10.20 | PITABoy | so you are saying to put 'addlist mmutrace <start ADDRESS> <size> in the default.txt and press the buttons etx |
| 23:10.25 | PITABoy | etc* |
| 23:10.35 | cr2 | BabelO: what are they actuall producing ? |
| 23:11.07 | BabelO | nothing :) |
| 23:11.08 | cr2 | PITABoy: the buttons are interesting too. |
| 23:11.12 | cr2 | BabelO: hot air ? |
| 23:11.14 | cr2 | :) |
| 23:11.39 | pH5 | I guess they want to sell silence. |
| 23:14.04 | cr2 | pH5: i'll send it to gmail |
| 23:16.04 | cr2 | pH5: sent. |
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| 23:16.39 | pH5 | cr2: ta |
| 23:18.50 | cr2 | +103a short - R read data from flash |
| 23:19.00 | cr2 | is not in the source of vivien ? |
| 23:19.20 | cr2 | i think it's the core address in IPL. |
| 23:23.19 | cr2 | pH5: i like the register names in docg3.c. the code is certainly different. |
| 23:24.59 | PITABoy | what processor did you guys say that the msm7500 is most like? |
| 23:25.11 | PITABoy | i got disconnected and lost my irc history |
| 23:25.59 | pH5 | I see, there is no 0x104x and no 0x103a. but the flash_select and flash_cmd functions at least look the same on first glance. |
| 23:26.20 | cr2 | PITABoy: it's produced by Samsung and the MDDI,I2C and SDIO (maybe UART) are certainly from Samsung. |
| 23:26.38 | cr2 | pH5: the reg list in wiki is from a780 |
| 23:27.02 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_DiskOnChip |
| 23:27.15 | cr2 | pH5: it's worth to look at the greenphone driver. |
| 23:27.28 | cr2 | because it has g4 and h4. |
| 23:27.43 | cr2 | unlike a780 which is g3/g22-only. |
| 23:27.44 | PITABoy | where can I find a list of haret commands? |
| 23:27.57 | cr2 | PITABoy: 'help' |
| 23:28.21 | GPFerror | cr2 did you get the new hermes build posted somewhere? |
| 23:28.22 | cr2 | PITABoy: it's not very well documented, unfortunately. |
| 23:28.36 | cr2 | GPFerror: http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret |
| 23:30.37 | GPFerror | just need the hermes-linuxRD.exe file on my sd card or internel or does it matter ? |
| 23:30.55 | pH5 | good night |
| 23:30.56 | cr2 | it can be anywhere. |
| 23:31.00 | GPFerror | ok |
| 23:38.40 | BabelO | good night |
| 23:39.15 | cr2 | good night |
| 23:52.06 | GPFerror | cr2 ok got it booted |
| 23:53.20 | GPFerror | what did you want me to check ? |
| 23:54.28 | GPFerror | oh i thought he was telling BabelO good night, maybe he went to bed also |
| 23:56.43 | cr2 | hi guys |
| 23:56.50 | cr2 | GPFerror: can you check the TS ? |
| 23:57.01 | cr2 | Hymie: i've uploaded the 240x240 version |
| 23:57.39 | GPFerror | doesn't seem to do anything, but other then clicking on it not quite sure what else to do |
| 23:57.57 | cr2 | GPFerror: ? |
| 23:58.13 | cr2 | GPFerror: you need to do mknod, and the use hexdump. |
| 23:58.31 | cr2 | it worked on my hermes. |
| 23:58.45 | GPFerror | ah i need to be doing this from linux, i'm at work now all i have is colinux and it doesn't have access to usb |
| 23:59.17 | cr2 | GPFerror: ok. we just need the ATI SD to do anything useful anyway. |
| 23:59.22 | GPFerror | ok |
| 23:59.35 | GPFerror | well time for me to go home bye |
| 23:59.48 | cr2 | we can put X11 on ramdisk, but it's still a hack. |
| 23:59.49 | cr2 | bye |