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00:50.23BabelOcr2_: ok roadmap speak ;) tha'ts good ;)
00:52.28BabelOgood night
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06:56.54goxboxlivemorning
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07:58.47mazzanetallo allo
08:00.06mazzaneti'll start by saying i have an o2 atom (pxa270)
08:00.11mazzanetand i want to get involved :P
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09:14.16*** topic/#htc-linux is HTC Linux Channel: Find logs at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ | please check http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | <cr2> let's define a common setup.
09:17.51cr2_mazzanet: get haret and start dumping and tracing :)
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10:11.35goxboxlivehi cr2_
10:16.56BabelO_hi cr2_, goxboxlive
10:19.59BabelO_goxboxlive i test some colored theme for qt
10:23.57goxboxlivehi BabelO_ ok
10:33.52goxboxlivedoes it look good :-)
10:33.55goxboxlive?
10:43.29BabelO_goxboxlive : yes more color choice, and look same asfinix
10:44.10goxboxliveohh good
10:51.31BabelOgoxboxlive : private msg, don't know if you get it ?
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12:03.21goxboxliveBabelO: is animation working when charging on BA?
12:06.14rob_w|laptopmy order for the htc-elf didnt get through .. hmm .. so what now ..
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12:07.43rob_w|laptopcr2_, so my htc-elf orde didnt work out .. the system swallowed it .. so now am thinking to get a real 3G htc device .. what would be your bet
12:19.54rob_w|laptophmm the htc-trinity looks interessting
12:30.35cr2_rob_w|laptop: trinity is ok. it's a hermes without keyboard but with working gps.
12:31.14rob_w|laptopidont want keyboards anymore .. they add thinkness .. which i dont like ..
12:51.06BabelOgoxboxlive : no animation still not working... suspend works only in automatic mode... i ve to look why
12:52.38goxboxliveahh ok, then you have the same status as I  then .-)
13:15.17BabelOgoxboxlive : yes, minus my phone not working :( wht is your radio rom on universal, i ve tested here on an universal, but doesn t work :(
13:15.37goxboxlive1.15
13:15.48BabelOok thx
13:15.57goxboxliveIs he having the latest WM6 rom?
13:16.22BabelOgoxboxlive: yes ;)
13:16.32goxboxliveI thinnk it is not compatible with our linux drivers. We have som bugs wich we need to sort out for newer WM6 roms.
13:16.51goxboxliveI think cr2_ is on it.
13:16.52BabelOreally ?
13:17.06BabelOok good :)
13:17.11goxboxliveYes, cr2_ knows more than me about it.
13:17.32goxboxliveI am also running WM6 on my device, but that's an older version.
13:18.42cr2_goxboxlive: can you install the version that breaks ? or tell me which rom is that.
13:20.02goxboxlivecr2_: i prefer to no nstall it, and i have no idea wich rom it is. But i can ask at xda forums.
13:25.58elliswayhi all
13:39.05goxboxlivehi ellisway
13:39.28elliswayhi goxboxlive
13:41.22goxboxlivehi ellisway
13:41.30elliswayhows it going
13:41.35goxboxlivejust foine, and u
13:41.41goxboxlivefine
13:41.45elliswaynot bad
13:41.48goxboxlive.-)
13:42.24elliswayalmost finished getting my spare uni all sorted out on the wince side of things just need to get the linux side of things sorted now
13:42.47goxboxlivecr2_: i posted a post on the xda forums. I guess they will provide us a link to the wm6 rom
13:43.31elliswayi have the last image of opie2 that you uploaded but when qtopia starts it hangs while trying to find the network
13:43.42elliswayon my main sim anyway
13:43.58elliswaybut on 1 of my spare sim`s it managees to find the network
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14:00.15goxboxliveellisway: ok, i have no idea what that can be. I havent had that problem myself
14:00.43goxboxliveI have 2 sims my self, one new and one old, and bought are working.
14:05.49elliswayhmm ok
14:06.11elliswayi`ll boot it in a min
14:06.25elliswayand take a pic of where it hangs at
14:06.47goxboxliveok
14:06.52elliswayany logs i can watch to see whats happening ?
14:17.47goxboxlive??
14:18.51elliswayi`ll get screenshot dont worry bout the logs thing
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14:37.55elliswaygoxboxlive this is where it gets stuck http://phukd.good1.com/temp/Image002.jpg
14:39.23wiredddI wish someone could get everything working on the wizard
14:40.23elliswaythe only thing i can at this point once the interface is stuck is a soft reset although i havn`t had a usb cable connected to another linux host while trying it
14:40.51elliswayso i dont know if the system is completely locked at this point
14:42.31elliswaynope not completely locked as i can touch all of the numbers on touchscreen and i can see that their is some response to each touch
14:42.49elliswaybut the screen itself stays the same with the please wait msg
14:45.43goxboxliveellisway: It's because it cant be logged on to the network. Start qtopia from ssh and activate log for atchat, modem and mux. Then you will see the ouput on your computer.
14:46.23elliswayok
14:46.55goxboxlivecr2_: here is the rom people at xda-forums has problem with: http://vidmes.com//Uni/ROMs/Laurenti...INESSVC_V3.rar
14:47.10elliswaymight need to get you to give me some additional info on the logs side of things once i`m connected via ssh
14:49.01goxboxlivejust go in to settings -> Logging -> categories and enable the logs.
14:49.29goxboxliveand start qtopia with /etc/init.d/qpe.sh start
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14:50.28elliswayok so what runlevel should i start the device in then
15:03.22cr2_wireddd: we are slowly moving forward with other omap850 phones.
15:03.46wiredddI really want to help, I just don't have the time
15:04.22wiredddthat and I don't have an sd card anymore
15:04.45cr2_wireddd: since there are no docs, it's just the time that's important ;)
15:05.08cr2_at least i've found out where is the touchscreen port.
15:05.21wiredddI know, I was heavily involved with the hacking of the gmini400
15:05.29cr2_ond more or less how to operate it.
15:06.38wiredddcool
15:07.25wiredddI would settle for making calls from the command line :P
15:07.32cr2_there are some "generic" problems that many phones need to be solved.
15:07.53cr2_phone is really difficult, but there is a half-working driver.
15:08.23cr2_i'd aim for the working SD and TS first.
15:08.50wiredddactually I think it would be pretty funny if there was an ncurses based phone app
15:09.43wiredddI would try to get the sd working, but my sd card died and I haven't gotten another one
15:10.13cr2_wireddd: the sd cards cost nothing these days.
15:10.17cr2_1-2GB.
15:10.25wiredddyeah I know
15:27.54BabelOcr2_ : so we can have sd / ts working ? and maybe uart3 and uart1 also ;)
15:31.04wiredddI wonder if I can compile the os I wrote to work on my phone
15:31.33wiredddwell helped write
15:37.06elliswayhmm
15:37.44elliswaymodprobe usbnet  on my host system should give me usb0 but it doesnt
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15:42.39cr2_BabelO: the driver for TS should be pretty trivial. maybe we can compare this port with other TI SPI ports.
15:43.31BabelOcr2_ : ok , but before we have to fix the freeze on start :(
15:43.38cr2_BabelO: the SD needs proper init. pH5 says that the commands to CPLD are sent over i2c, but i didn't dig so deep. but the command "triples" are known.
15:43.51BabelOcr2_: myabe it is related to memory space or irq settings :(
15:44.22BabelOcr2_: it seems i don't have such cpld on artemis
15:44.45cr2_the ida demo is too short, and it can't decode all strings, so i waste time on doing it and then have no time to think ;)
15:45.22cr2_the ida of lkcl has some strange problems (maybe because it's an old version).
15:46.17cr2_BabelO: but the "triples" are there, so it's necessary to understand what are they actually doing.
15:46.44cr2_hm. wait. it was the wifi init.
15:47.18cr2_it needs sdio.
15:49.07cr2_BabelO: can you check the uart1 and uart3 ?
15:49.25cr2_just load the serial driver and use 'cu'
15:51.20BabelOcr2_ : only problem actually is when i load any driver, kernel freeze, or if i staert command like top it freeze, even if i just wait it freeze :(
15:51.24elliswaycr2_or BabelO with the logs that goxboxlive pointed me at which should i turn on any ideas i no he said atchat modem and mux but modem has modem other / modem emulator / modem multiplexing
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15:53.07BabelOellisway : if you use goxboxlive image, i thing you have to export QTOPIA_DEVICE=/dev/ttyS0:115200 or where is the modem device
15:53.35elliswayhmm i didnt with my spare pay as you go sim
15:53.58elliswaywith my payg sim it found the network ok
15:54.00BabelOand also look in /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendor/ if you have something like libhtcphonevendor.so you have to export QTOPIA_VENDOR=htcphone
15:54.08BabelOand then start qpe
15:54.14elliswaybut with my contract sim it doesnt
15:54.27BabelOellisway : so i don't know more
15:54.34elliswaynp
15:54.45elliswayi`ll keep playing and see if i can work it out
15:55.18cr2_BabelO: ba is an excellent device for testing mdoc-g3
15:56.02BabelOcr2_: you have a driver now ? ;)
15:56.04cr2_BabelO: is it possible to make qtopia4 fit into 32MB ?
15:56.11elliswayweird
15:56.17elliswaynow its found the network
15:56.24cr2_BabelO: not yet, but i'm thinking about mmap(/dev/mem)
15:56.32BabelOcr2_: only 32M , hmmm only if it is a compressed system boot
15:56.48elliswaywithout any changes other than enabling the at chat modem and mux loggin
15:56.52cr2_BabelO: yes, and all unnecessary things removed.
15:57.14cr2_lile QtScript , html help and such.
15:57.15BabelOcr2_: i can look what we need to remove, if you get my latest image, i remove mediaserver and qdsync
15:57.29cr2_ok.
15:57.50cr2_because we can flash 32MB RSN together with pH5
15:58.17cr2_running wine over 30K line is not fun :(
15:59.57elliswaycr2_ with roadmap will it be possible to have multiple waypoints set on a route ?
16:07.02cr2_ellisway: yes. for route planning ?
16:09.55elliswayyeh
16:11.04elliswayi have a btgps receiver now
16:11.25elliswayas far as i no its a sirf111 chipset but not certain about the chipset
16:16.27cr2_if you are not a gps hacker, you only care about the NMEA datastream
16:16.31cr2_and it's ascii
16:16.51elliswayok
16:18.54cr2_do you see it with 'hcitool scan' ?
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16:21.35elliswayyes
16:23.44ellisway00:02:78:**:**:**       BTGPS
16:26.35cr2_ok.
16:27.02cr2_the first 2 bytes depend on wince/linux afair :)
16:27.37cr2_and i think the address can be reprogrammed. permanently or in RAM.
16:27.45cr2_per session.
16:28.15cr2_ok, then connect to it, and do
16:28.24cr2_cat /dev/rfcomm0
16:29.16cr2_btw, do you have a map ?
16:29.33elliswaynot atm
16:29.51elliswaywell not for roadmap anyway
16:30.17elliswayi have tomtom maps for the uk
16:30.32elliswayno garmin or navman or anyother
16:30.51elliswayi also have access to a old copy of the ordinance and survay mapping software
16:31.26cr2_OSM for the UK is very good.
16:32.04cr2_i'm planning to convert the whole world for OSM, but there are some bugs to be fixed.
16:32.53elliswaycoo
16:33.42elliswayah 1 other thing while i think of it
16:33.54cr2_http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy
16:33.55elliswaywhich packages should i use from the angstrom repo
16:34.04elliswayarm5***
16:34.06cr2_any you'd like
16:34.17cr2_Worldfile for use with QLandkarte or Mapsource: world.tgz (180MB)
16:34.18elliswayarch wise i mean
16:34.30cr2_armv5te
16:34.33cr2_i think
16:34.48elliswayk
16:34.55cr2_you can tell me which tiles from world.tgz you really need.
16:35.15elliswayi thought it would be but wasn`t sure uname says arm5tel
16:35.23elliswayk
16:35.40elliswaymostly greater london
16:35.45elliswaywithin the m25
16:36.15cr2_ok, it must be very good there.
16:39.38elliswayi`m getting the world.tgz atm
16:40.15ellisway16:39:57 (3.53 MB/s) - `world.tgz' saved [188306105/188306105] :)
16:40.17goxboxlivecr2_: did you download the wm6 image?
16:41.17cr2_goxboxlive: yes.
16:41.50cr2_ellisway: get qlandkarte too.
16:42.11cr2_ellisway: osm.org is very close to you :)
16:43.19elliswayshould be closer still iun a few weeks oonce i get my port at linx sorted out
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16:44.54goxboxlivegood
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16:45.38elliswayhmm where is qlandkarte ?
16:46.25elliswayshould i get the src from sf.net ?
16:50.23elliswayno binaries for any of the distros i have running
16:51.10cr2_it seems yes.
16:58.29goxboxlivecr2_: they have made a dualboot loader to A780.
16:58.51goxboxlivehttp://www.motorolafans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=113535
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17:13.22cr2_goxboxlive: how to access gps ?
17:14.17cr2_maybe it's easier to add the gsmd patches to qtopia ?
17:14.31goxboxlivecr2_: access gps?
17:14.38goxboxlivefrom openezx?
17:14.50cr2_yes.
17:14.57goxboxliveread this:
17:15.05cr2_actually i'd like to take over the control of gps.
17:15.34cr2_is it known hot it's controlled ?
17:15.45goxboxliveIt is already working, but you cant access it via standard
17:15.45goxboxliveboot_usb/bootloader. You will need to flash your phone (either
17:15.45goxboxlivereplacing the 2.4 kernel, or setting up a dual-boot configuration).
17:15.51goxboxliveThis is about the phone modem
17:16.01goxboxlives/This/That was
17:16.09cr2_strange.
17:16.12goxboxliveThis is about the gsm:
17:16.17goxboxlivesorry gps
17:16.29goxboxliveIt depends on the modem, see above. And it talks a proprieatary
17:16.30goxboxliveprotocol, we still need to teach gpsd how to talk to the gps on a780.
17:16.57cr2_well, we have replaced 2.4 kernel.
17:17.24cr2_it seems that the htc phones are more hackable.
17:17.28goxboxliveYes but we need to flash it. I dont know if i dare to try
17:17.57cr2_on athena i have the sirf3 firmware as a binary blob, and the radio can be decoded.
17:17.59goxboxlivecr2_: http://motorolafans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8291
17:18.08goxboxliveok
17:19.11cr2_"The kernel part for supporting GPS is already done (mux_cli)"
17:19.18cr2_i disagree ;)
17:19.34cr2_that's the poor man's approach.
17:20.20goxboxliveok, i have no clue
17:20.21cr2_reading further :)
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17:40.46BabelOcr2_: in ba image now you have roadmap and gpsd setup correctly ;)
17:41.34cr2_gpsd correctly ?
17:41.46cr2_how do you handle the bt "hotplug" ?
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17:42.22cr2_i think gpsd wanted some port at start. and ttyS3 is hwuart, which is not very nice.
17:45.36BabelOcr2_ : yes but hciattach is startup before so it don't attach ;)
17:46.05BabelOfor bt hotplug i think to a nice widget , but you can use in qtopia -> settings -> bluetooth -> pairing
17:52.22cr2_but how do you notify gpsd of the port from outside ?
17:52.36cr2_i may connect 10 bt receivers :)
17:56.10BabelOcr2_ : i can create a qtopia widget that can start gpsd once you are paired with your bt
17:56.34BabelOsomething like you have in windows
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17:59.34cr2_ok.
17:59.43pH5good evening
18:09.36cr2_hi pH5
18:11.01BabelOhi pH5
18:11.32BabelOpH5 : time to find where is our omap850 freeze ;)
18:11.38BabelObbl in 20 mn ;)
18:13.04pH5s/0/O/, sorry
18:14.18cr2_pH5: are there any other TI SPI drivers ? maybe they have the same registers. it sounds logical .
18:17.25pH5host ones like the omap uwire spi driver? I don't know.
18:19.51cr2_0xFFFB0C00            SPI
18:20.08cr2_http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=60Cx_registers
18:20.25cr2_afair it's the 5912
18:21.57cr2_http://www.seeddsp.com/service/bbs/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=29838&pid=83778
18:22.04cr2_bbl
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18:40.35BabelOpH5: rohhh :(
18:40.53rakeemHello...  Any news?  Frustrations?  Miracles to share anyone?
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18:42.05BabelOpH5: so, as cr2_ say uwire is not the correct spi, we need to change a bit spi driver ?
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18:42.34rakeemSPI?
18:42.43pH5BabelO: no idea, I don't worry about the touchscreen for now, to me the CPLD is way more important
18:42.44rakeemWhat's that?
18:42.50ivucicahi everyone!
18:42.58rakeemHello!
18:42.59pH5(and the mysterious hangup of course, but I have no idea how to get to that)
18:43.11BabelOrakeem: hello
18:43.27rakeemHey BabelO...
18:43.56BabelOpH5: do you think it can be a bad irq setup ? i ll look at irq bank definition then
18:44.00ivucicai come today with an openembedded problem  ;)
18:44.08rakeemWhat's CPLD again?  My primary wish is for Wifi on the Uni to work like it did on 2.6.16
18:44.16ivucicaivucica@khaoticone:/opt/openembedded$ bitbake nano
18:44.16ivucicaERROR: Please set the 'CACHE' variable.
18:44.17pH5BabelO: could be, having a look won't hurt.
18:46.05pH5~wiki cpld
18:46.25ivucicapH5: any idea?
18:48.36pH5ivucica: did you edit conf/bitbake.conf?
18:48.55pH5the CACHE variable is set there
18:48.58ivucicayep, there is a mentioning of CACHE there, but says something like "not recommended to uncomment this"
18:48.59rakeemThanks pH5...  Erm...  What does it do for us?  Is that the same as HTC ASIC3?
18:49.05ivucicawhat should it be set to, if not to ""?
18:49.16ivucica# Uncomment this to disable the parse cache (not recommended).
18:49.16ivucica# CACHE = ""
18:49.40pH5rakeem: similar, but a bit simpler. htc uses CPLDs as gpio and irq expanders on many devices.
18:50.01pH5asic3 irqs and gpios are way more configurable and it has additional functionality.
18:50.22pH5(ds1wm, mmc, etc.)
18:55.51ivucicapH5: what should i set CACHE to?
18:55.53rakeemAh, is that what they use to get two USB ports, a wifi NIC, BT interface, and phone all talking on a single wire?
18:56.56pH5ivucica: you shouldn't touch that at all
18:57.05ivucicapH5: however, it asks me to
18:57.14ivucicaivucica@khaoticone:/opt/openembedded$ bitbake nano
18:57.14ivucicaERROR: Please set the 'CACHE' variable.
18:57.16pH5bitbake.conf should set it to "${TMPDIR}/cache${@['', '/' + str(bb.data.getVar('MACHINE', d, 1))][bool(bb.data.getVar('MACHINE', d, 1))]}"
18:57.25ivucicaodd...
18:57.26pH5if it doesn't do that, your bitbake.conf is broken
18:57.33rakeemIs that also where strange behavioural issues lurk like corrupt wifi data?
18:57.38pH5or not included for whatever reason
18:59.07pH5rakeem: are you talking about universal now? what functionality is on what chip and how it is connected to the main processor varies a lot across the different phones.
19:02.48ivucicapH5: i just installed according to http://www.openembedded.org/node/20/ ....
19:02.52ivucicai have no idea what might be the problem
19:04.09rakeemI thought that such multiplexors would be pretty universal themselves.  I'm no kernel guru (far from it 'mfraid), it's just that the same ACX firmware and driver code worked nice on 2.6.16 and now it complains about word alignment a lot.  Thought it might be dark time-slicing glitches in the demux...  But you're right, I'm kinda Universal-centric (I have a Tornado too), any other device recommendations?
19:09.17rakeemOh, I've said it before here, but I live in Hong Kong and have found a place that sells just about every spare for every HTC device, if anyone has a casualty...
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19:14.26pH5hm. isn't acx on universal memory mapped directly?
19:14.53pH5rakeem: cool, I hope I remember that when I break something :)
19:17.39goxboxlivepH5: then lets nail the bootloader :-)
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19:22.58rakeemYou're talking technical again pH5...  8-)  I've really got to stop sitting on the sidelines and get my hands dirty.  I've never even looked at driver sourcecode before....  :(
19:24.21pH5rakeem: the acx is connected directly to the main processor via the chip select lines, so its registers appear directly in a memory region of the cpu. the asic3 is only used to switch power and reset lines of the acx, I think.
19:38.36ivucicapH5: it would appear that openembedded is compiling nano... (bitbake nano)
19:39.00ivucicaso i'm wondeering, what do i have to punch in to get kernel compiled with openembedded? ;)
19:39.35ivucicawondering*
19:39.35pH5ivucica: bitbake virtual/kernel if the machine is set up correctly.
19:40.07ivucicapH5:  and how do i change kernel's ".config" file?
19:40.19ivucicai'm not really interested in stock kernel ;)
19:40.41pH5or "bitbake linux-handhelds-2.6", as that is the recipe that h3[68]00 use for virtual/kernel
19:41.16pH5the defconfig is somewhere under packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/h3800
19:41.22ivucicak
19:41.35cr2_pH5: how is the mail on hh.org redirected ? if i send it from the hh.org directly, it works.
19:42.53pH5cr2_: I wouldn't know, I don't have hh.org email.
19:43.45cr2_ok.
19:44.07cr2_pH5: i'm looking at the arte bl. now with the right tools :)
19:44.12cr2_cpld
19:45.06pH5very good :)
20:08.41cr2_BabelO: gpio21 and gpio23 ? what's that ?
20:09.56cr2_and gpio24. usb something.
20:10.46BabelOno , don't know about these :(
20:11.00BabelOcr2_: do you want an artemis console access ? ;)
20:11.22cr2_nothing on tornado.
20:11.25cr2_no.
20:11.28cr2_http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/doc.html
20:12.07cr2_pH5: =1 is it input of output on omap ?
20:12.13cr2_s/of/or/
20:13.22cr2_gpio_0xa3 = 163 ?
20:13.40cr2_32*6=192
20:13.49pH5cr2_: look at plat-omap/gpio.c, 1=input
20:14.19pH5direction 0, value 0 is the parking position (out, low)
20:14.56cr2_pH5: thanks. found a lot of gpios.
20:15.16pH5cr2_: make a list :)
20:15.57cr2_BabelO: can you create a wiki table with 192 rows, like for pxa ? ArtemisGPIO
20:17.21BabelOcr2_: where at xanadux wiki ?
20:17.37cr2_yes.
20:17.52cr2_pH5: we may also create a list with +0x27000 entries.
20:18.02cr2_in SRAM.
20:24.08rob__whow is it going dudes
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20:27.46BabelOhi rob_w
20:31.16rob_whow is it going BabelO
20:32.59x7500denmaarkHi all :) does anybody know how its going about porting linux to athena ?
20:33.12cr2_pH5: i'm back by 0x0-0x23f7fe00
20:33.27cr2_x7500denmaark: it's going, but slowly.
20:34.15cr2_0xdc080200
20:34.56BabelOrob_w: lot of thing to do
20:36.00cr2_aah. lsl1
20:36.16x7500denmaarkthanks anyway i hope it will be done I dont wana have windows on it. can I donate something to the project somewhere ? :)
20:36.49cr2_some time ;)
20:37.04cr2_0xdc080200*2 it's too much.
20:37.52cr2_-0xffffffff
20:38.05cr2_x7500denmaark: which boardid do you have ?
20:38.17cr2_0xb8100401
20:39.00cr2_0xb8100000   0x04000000   0x01   debug board
20:39.02cr2_hehe.
20:39.37BabelOcr2_: still in nk.exe ?
20:39.54cr2_pH5: looks like cpld to me ;-)
20:39.57cr2_BabelO: bl
20:40.14cr2_bl is much friendlier.
20:40.36cr2_pH5: where did you find i2c ?
20:41.47pH5cr2_: nk.exe, but I'm beginning to doubt my findings right now.
20:41.58cr2_pH5: PL_CPLDRead/WriteReg read/write there.
20:42.26x7500denmaarkI have buy it in denmark with danish os. I have switch to linux totally so i don't know alot about it its a x7500 sim unlocked :)
20:42.46cr2_x7500denmaark: can you run haret on it ?
20:44.30x7500denmaarkI have not tried but i get dosbox etc run on it so i think it maybee can bee done :)
20:45.16cr2_pH5: it's (unsigned int)((idx-0x23f7fe00)<<1)
20:46.24pH5cr2_: no such thing here
20:46.49pH5also, I only have one function PL_CPLDReadRegs
20:47.17cr2_x7500denmaark: you only need to put haret on athena, and add the line 'pwf x7500 0xa0100000 0x200000' to default.txt
20:47.50cr2_x7500denmaark: then wait, and compress the 2MB x7500 file. put it somewhere.
20:48.54cr2_pH5: put nb on hh.org in your home dir.
20:49.06x7500denmaarkwhere do i download the linux system files? :)
20:49.56cr2_pH5: there are 8 16bit CPLD regs. as usual.
20:50.17pH5cr2_: you can a  herald SPL from ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Herald
20:50.36cr2_x7500denmaark: you don't need any linux files. just get haret-0.5.0.exe
20:51.21x7500denmaarkokay thanks it will play with it and get back :) thanks
20:51.22cr2_pH5: ok.
20:54.58x7500denmaarkI get permission denied :)
20:55.59rakeemcr2:  I've just been reading the scrollback, and again I tip my hat to you.  The Che Guevara of handheld computing.  Good night all...!
20:57.26pH5lol, so that's what the c in cr2 stands for?
20:57.38x7500denmaarkok find sorry :)
20:59.05cr2_lol
20:59.22cr2_BabelO: the GPSrouting redirects something to uart2
21:00.15BabelOcr2_: how agps works i though it was only some software thing :(
21:00.44cr2_it's sirf3 ?
21:00.55BabelOcr2_: yes
21:01.38cr2_agps means you download the ephemeris from net.
21:01.47BabelOcr2_: under wince com3 is gardware port and i can only acces to gps over com4 port
21:01.50cr2_you can do very well without it.
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21:02.13cr2_can you trace uart2 ?
21:02.32BabelOcr2_: yes i understand that, but is it a material thing or just some firmware like upload ?
21:02.39BabelOcr2_: i try, wait ;)
21:07.14BabelOcr2_: adress ?
21:07.40BabelO0xfffb0800
21:08.07cr2_yes.
21:08.16cr2_the 4096 page
21:08.45BabelO4096 ? it is just 0x13
21:09.28cr2_BabelO: so it's a usual combo of the CPLD gpio settings and CPU gpio settings to powerup/reset something.
21:09.44cr2_htc does stays true to this design pattern. since himalaya.
21:10.24cr2_BabelO: i'll create the wiki page.
21:13.28BabelOcr2_: nothing to see with addlist mmutrace p2v(0xfffb0800) 0xff
21:13.37BabelOcr2_: only gps irq :(
21:13.43cr2_http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ArtemisGPIO
21:13.55cr2_addlist mmutrace p2v(0xfffb0800) 0x1000
21:14.27cr2_well, it will not help probably.
21:14.54BabelOnothing more :(
21:15.12BabelOi m just able to trace i2c while i start camera
21:15.27BabelOcr2_: can i see something where you localize cpld ?
21:17.35rob_wcr2_: hehe Che Guevara .. thats nice
21:18.14cr2_BabelO: can you trace the cpld ?
21:18.55BabelOcr2_: i just add a big filter now addlist mmutrace p2v(0xfffb0000) 0xffff
21:19.20BabelO<PROTECTED>
21:19.28BabelOmy gps is still running
21:20.10cr2_http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=OMAP850_Registers
21:20.16rob_whmm i am very undecided which new device i should buy
21:20.34cr2_BabelO: it's the 32K timer.
21:20.52BabelOyes i just v2p()
21:21.25cr2_BabelO: trace the 0xb8100000 1024*1024
21:21.27BabelOgrrh  also rtc call to 4805
21:22.16rob_wcr2_: that map at xda-developers of 850 , is that the real or virtual mappings ?
21:22.34cr2_real
21:23.41BabelOcr2_: what about 4800 / 48004 ???  i see that , is it ok i think it is wrong
21:23.45BabelO000.000 8c144708: ldrb   r1, [r0, r9]   # a=b80b4800 v=00000011
21:23.45BabelO000.000 8c144730: ldrb   r1, [r0, sl]   # a=b80b4801 v=00000018
21:23.46BabelO000.000 8c144758: ldrb   r1, [r0, fp]   # a=b80b4802 v=00000022
21:23.46BabelO000.000 8c144780: ldrb   r1, [r0, r3]   # a=b80b4803 v=00000029
21:23.46BabelO000.000 8c1447ac: ldrb   r1, [r0, r3]   # a=b80b4804 v=00000010
21:23.46BabelO000.000 8c1446d8: ldrb   r1, [r0, r8]   # a=b80b4805 v=00000007
21:25.19cr2_BabelO: the table is probably packed on omap730/850
21:25.49rob_wcr2_: but BabelO traces now are virtual ones , right ?
21:26.02cr2_pH5 copied many entries from omap15xx headers.
21:26.17cr2_rob_w: yes. b80 == fff
21:27.04BabelOcr2_: addlist mmutrace 0xb8100000 1024*1024 give me nothing
21:27.34cr2_BabelO: ok.
21:27.49cr2_BabelO: swtich wifi on/off
21:27.53cr2_hehe. you can't :)
21:28.08cr2_switch the phone modem on/off.
21:28.11BabelOyes i can ;) i have a usb data cable with artemis ;)
21:28.20cr2_ok.
21:28.30cr2_then trace over usb.
21:28.38rob_wdoes this regs reassemble into the months, days , hours, minutes, seconds after the 1970 ??
21:29.29BabelOcr2_: yes it seem you find something here ;)
21:30.20cr2_rob_w: yes.
21:30.28rob_wcool
21:31.07BabelOcr2_: http://pastebin.ca/754234
21:31.34BabelOrob_w: yes it is the right our and date ;)
21:32.05rob_wah so its the actual date already .. hmm
21:32.40rob_wso this all will be running of course quite all the time ( it better does )
21:33.07rob_wBabelO: did you get all Uarts to run on your 850 yet ?
21:34.11cr2_BabelO: it's the cpld gpios for wifi power/reset.
21:34.55BabelOrob_w: nothing, no, just booting linux , ans some stuff from wizard
21:35.09BabelOcr2_: so i collect other for gps / bt /phone
21:35.34cr2_BabelO: gather them somewhere.
21:35.40rob_wwhich 850 device  do you have ?
21:36.38BabelOrob_w: it is HTC Artemis http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=619
21:38.02BabelOcr2_: so cpld irq is 4 ?
21:38.42rob_wi am so dissapointed that the htc elf doesnt have 3g ,,
21:44.19cr2_BabelO: no irqs here, just setting the bits.
21:44.46BabelOcr2_: ok i got other trace, bt is a bit different, it is waiting for some firmware upload ;) then it switch something else in cpld
21:44.53cr2_BabelO: btw, you may switch to the BL sometimes, and tell me if your config is eeprom-less or not.
21:45.03rob_wis the htc-nike already available ?
21:45.04cr2_brf6150 ?
21:45.10BabelOcr2_: yes
21:45.26BabelOcr2_: how can i switch to bl and check what you need ?
21:46.38BabelOrob_w: you ant to check video conference with goxboxlive who have 3g too ;)
21:46.56rob_wYES
21:47.09BabelO:)
21:48.25rob_wcr2_: can you deal with a Qualcomm MSM 7200
21:48.35BabelOrob_w: i never check this feature, i just  have edge contract with illimited TV channel
21:49.28rob_wi do have hdspa coverage at home .. so sitting in the cellar of my house i can have 1.5 times the speed via that hdspa as with my static dsl line .. crazy
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21:53.12cr2_BabelO: do you have fm radio ? :)
21:53.14BabelOyes crazy, i understand why you want that now
21:53.36BabelOcr2_: yes, and i hope it is same chipset as in linux kernel :)
21:53.39cr2_rob_w: no CPU docs at all.
21:53.47rob_woh dear
21:54.13cr2_BabelO: found radio powerup.
21:54.39BabelOcr2_: normally it is i2c thing :)
21:54.43cr2_fm
21:55.03cr2_3 cpld gpios + 2 omap gpios
21:55.17cr2_may be the speaker too.
21:55.47rob_wdamn it .. why the heck would i really need hdspa
21:56.03cr2_you'll have a lot to trace.
21:56.06rob_wi think i should get that elf , i really want to see the htc ui
21:56.17cr2_rob_w: buy athena. but it's bigger than universal
21:56.42cr2_but it has hsdpa. and will be supported by linux RSN.
21:56.53rob_wbigger then universal .. no that i cant take these days .. i want to force myself to use touch only
21:57.07cr2_it's a pxa270 tablet pc. with 128M ram and a lof of bells and whistles.
21:57.20rob_whmm
21:57.27cr2_like PAL/NTSC/VGA out
21:57.30rob_wi know , ik now
21:57.33cr2_S-video too.
21:57.35rob_wWHAT?
21:57.38cr2_and usb host
21:57.50cr2_and 8GB microdrive.
21:57.53cr2_and gps
21:57.57rob_wstop it !
21:58.00cr2_and ATI accel
21:58.29BabelOcr2_: where lot of trace ? i just finish to create a small txt file with wifi / bt /phone power up / down
21:58.36rob_wright
21:58.56rob_wlets see what ebay tells me about universals these days
21:59.16BabelOcr2_: you forgot accelerometer ? lol
22:01.03cr2_rob_w: yes, and the accelerometer. with i2c interface :)
22:01.19rob_wwhat the f** is that
22:01.36cr2_measures the device acceleration.
22:01.58cr2_if it's close to 9.82m/s^2 then it's time to shutdown the microdrive.
22:02.03rob_wso it will detec some split of second that it soon drops to concret and "scream " ?`
22:02.14cr2_yes :)
22:02.45rob_wits so big .. i really love a smaller one this time
22:04.11cr2_BabelO: LCD uses gazillion of gpios.
22:04.20cr2_fed up with artemis for today :)
22:04.20rob_wi really want to work on the ui on such devices and get something htc started now for linux , rather a matchbox-desktop plugin to easy dumb-move in the device .. and reframe all gtk ui `s
22:04.51cr2_BabelO: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ArtemisGPIO
22:05.22cr2_BabelO: there are 3 LCD types, and so on.
22:06.15BabelOreally so i m lucky, because there is only two in tornado code
22:07.09cr2_BabelO: the code is much more easier to read than the pxa stuff.
22:08.07cr2_it's just like mov r0, GPIO# ; mov r1, IO ; call set_gpio_dir
22:08.26BabelOgood gps gpios are on cpld too
22:08.50BabelOcr2_: i only see strh never read, is it normal ?
22:09.19goxboxliveBabelO: Do you have Qtopia-4.3.0 running on your greenphone?
22:09.39rob_wQualcomm Announces Support for Linux in Integrated Single-Chip UMTS and CDMA2000 solutions
22:09.48rob_whttp://www.qualcomm.com/press/releases/2005/050505_linux_sc_print.html
22:09.48BabelOgoxboxlive: no i keep 4.2.5 to check my app before send it to tt
22:09.50goxboxlivecr2_: i have all the buttons working om A780 now with qtopia running :-)
22:10.08goxboxliveBabelO: okm but it is doable to run it on GP also right?
22:10.33BabelOgoxboxlive: yes ljp have made an image at qtopia.net
22:10.45goxboxliveok
22:13.08cr2_BabelO: maybe.
22:13.20BabelOcr2_: all trace i can get gps/wifi/bt/phone http://pastebin.ca/754295 with gpio on top
22:14.25goxboxliveBabelO: i want the flip to handle the oposite way.
22:15.10goxboxliveI want it to go to homescreen when i close the flip. Now it goes to the homescreen when i open it. Is there a way i can invert it in the htckbdhandler?
22:15.46BabelOwhat is key for homescreen ?
22:16.24rob_wwow the msm7200 is a 528Mhz Arm11 and a 256Mhz Arm9  .. that is crazy
22:18.53goxboxliveBabelO: You can use KEY_HANGUP
22:18.57cr2_pH5: http://www.keti.re.kr/home/keti_data/down_ok.asp?idx=393&down=51
22:20.30BabelOgoxboxlive: key hanguup is mapped to four scancode
22:21.17goxboxliveyes i know, but remember i am using my own scancodes for a780. They are diffrent from universal
22:21.53BabelOok, there is an option to homescreen widget to switch to home screen after iddle
22:21.59BabelOmaybe it is same
22:22.19goxboxliveBabelO: i am uisng it like this: http://pastebin.no/2735
22:23.42BabelOgoxboxlive: ah ah close / open the flip is not a switch
22:24.11goxboxliveBabelO: on A780 it is
22:24.42BabelOso it is why you go to home screen
22:24.45goxboxlivei get a scancode when i do tests on it. And it works fine, but just oposite of what i want
22:24.52goxboxliveyes
22:25.08BabelOi ll look at anotjer code for sample ;)
22:25.14goxboxlivei want it to go to home scren when i close the flip, not open it as it is now
22:26.05BabelOgoxboxlive: so just keep key state in another variable
22:26.40goxboxliveyes, but how the heck do i do that?
22:27.04goxboxliveDO i have to take it out of the { } and create a new { } if you know what i mean :-)
22:27.33BabelOgoxboxlive: yes it is like that, maybe dirty code but it works
22:28.13goxboxlivemaybe i just can make a new key_code and set it to =1?
22:28.27goxboxlivelike key_code_invert = 1?
22:28.46goxboxliveno forget that
22:28.47BabelOgoxboxlive: edit kbdhandler.h, add "bool test;" to private:
22:29.01goxboxliveok
22:29.05BabelOgoxboxlive: like ctrl and other
22:30.03BabelOgoxboxlive: then initialize this bool in htckbdhandler::htckbdha,dler() like test = false;
22:30.22BabelOand then hust switch state when you detect this jey press
22:31.52BabelOcr2_: humm i test other thing but never got any ldrh at these adress
22:35.21goxboxlivehmm have to look further on it tomorrow. good night
22:35.31BabelOgood night ;)
22:35.52rob_wBabelO: how is the omap850`s performance as such ?
22:37.10BabelOrob_w: since i have wm6 performance are reasonnable, i m able to play full divx on it , with some slowness, but if i want i can recompress to play better
22:37.38rob_wnice
22:37.49BabelOit is my big test
22:38.00BabelOother like gps works fine
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22:38.32BabelOtomtom 3d view is ok and alert at the right time ;)
22:40.55rob_wso which kernel tree did you use for your omap ?
22:41.59BabelOrob_w: first i getwizard kernel to have a working base, then i merge some muru patch with hh kernel ;)
22:42.18BabelOrob_w: but have some hand issue with it actually
22:42.39cr2_rob_w: it does not really work :)
22:42.43rob_wmuru ?? getwizard .. hmm dont know them
22:43.45BabelOrob_w: http://www.muru.com/linux/omap/
22:43.55rob_wthanks
22:44.04pH5rob_w: the old linwizard-hg tree. muru is home of the linux-omap tree.
22:44.49rob_woh the nokia 770 had this .. well that must be a good dev tree
22:45.30rob_whmm that actaully looks quite promising
22:45.34BabelOpH5: is your cpld only write ?
22:45.39pH5BabelO: no
22:46.39pH5rob_w: linux-omap + typhoon patches or linux-omap + selected linwizard parts should be a good base. unfortunately I didn't manage yet to boot here starting from this side.
22:47.22rob_whmm so the omap doesnt look that bad, did you guys check the nokia770 sources .. maybe there is something
22:47.53pH5plain linux-omap has no good omap850 support
22:48.15rob_wso its the 850 as such which will be more pain ..
22:49.21rob_wwell looking at FIC and the fact that they cant get a working hardware out .. i bet any choice will be hard and still pain .. when will someone do the right decisions and dont miss something
22:50.03rob_wok .. cu and wish you good night
22:50.35pH5yeah, same here
23:08.37mazzanetcr2_: well for a start, haret hangs on 'jumping to kernel' if i through a random arm kernel at it
23:18.12cr2_mazzanet: of course.
23:18.40cr2_your machine type is not known.
23:22.02mazzanetoh hello
23:22.24mazzanetWelcome, this is HaRET 0.5.0 running on WindowsCE v5.1
23:22.25mazzanetMinimal virtual address: 00010000, maximal virtual address: 7FFFFFFF
23:22.25mazzanetDetected machine Generic Intel PXA27x/PXA27x (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='Xda Atom')
23:22.25mazzanetCPU is Intel ARM arch 5TE revision 0 product 17 stepping 7 running in system mode
23:24.37cr2_http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines
23:24.52cr2_it is not registered afaik.
23:25.30cr2_but you can do a lot of small tricks :)
23:27.22mazzanetlike? :P
23:27.40mazzanet(note that i don't really have any idea what i'm doing :))
23:30.02cr2_do you know something about the internal of this machine ?
23:35.20mazzanetwell theres some info already at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Atom
23:42.41cr2_ok, that's not bad.
23:43.35Kevin2Hi
23:43.38BabelOit is a BA with fm radio ;)
23:43.45BabelOhi Kevin2
23:44.05BabelOand better camera sensor
23:45.01cr2_BabelO: pxa272
23:45.10BabelOyes also ;)
23:45.17BabelObut less ram
23:45.37Kevin2cr2_: Do we have anyone who can test msm7x00 stuff?
23:46.19cr2_Kevin2: a real ati setup will need about a week of hard work writing down all the register values ;)
23:46.27cr2_Kevin2: ImCoKeMaN afair
23:46.50ImCoKeMaNdid i hear my name?
23:47.02ImCoKeMaN=)
23:47.05Kevin2cr2_: ATI including sound, video, gpios, etc?
23:47.11Kevin2ImCoKeMaN:
23:47.14Kevin2ImCoKeMaN:
23:47.23ImCoKeMaNoh, nope, ok guess i was mistaken, sorry
23:47.24Kevin2ImCoKeMaN: Do you have an msm7500 based machine?
23:47.28ImCoKeMaNyeah titan
23:47.34ImCoKeMaN(mogul)
23:47.35Kevin2(Kept cutting and pasting wrong..)
23:47.37cr2_Kevin2: yes. the clocks pll/i2s/etc.
23:47.56ImCoKeMaNand thanks for the help here before too cuz it was haret that got me to unlock the titan
23:48.11Kevin2ImCoKeMaN: Are you up for running some haret tests?
23:48.12cr2_mazzanet: have a look at mio A701 kernel. it's very similar to yours.
23:48.39Kevin2ImCoKeMaN: BTW, did you modify haret for your code?  If so, is it something we can check back into mainline?
23:48.52ImCoKeMaNall i did was change the rombase to 0x0
23:49.01ImCoKeMaNbut there is now a jumpspl out that does what i did
23:49.02cr2_Kevin2: btw, i meant DUMPGPIO, not WGPIO. dumpgpio makes a nicely formatted dump with decoded registers.
23:49.47ImCoKeMaNi probly broke some other stuff cuz there was another address that wasn't in a freindly place so i just added a bit to it to get it out of my way for the SPL hehe
23:50.03Kevin2cr2_: "watch gpios" without a time will show the current state of gpios.  Not as pretty as "dump gpio", but still useful.
23:50.31cr2_Kevin2: can you make some test doing big malloc() and dumping the phys. addresses ?
23:50.36cr2_ok.
23:52.10cr2_BabelO: herald is a weird device. artemis is much better, because it has "normal" mmaped cpld.
23:52.25Kevin2ImCoKeMaN: So, if you are up to running some tests, launch haret and run "set mmutrace p2v(0xc0000000) 1024*1024" followed by "wi 1".
23:52.29cr2_BabelO: so these omap850 devices are quite different
23:52.56ImCoKeMaNi am def up for it i'll prob be back in like a half hour or so though that cool?
23:53.07Kevin2ImCoKeMaN: Okay.
23:53.13Kevin2cr2_: What is that for?
23:55.00cr2_Kevin2: i don't have a clear understanding where is the wince RAM on titan.
23:55.21cr2_and where is nand.
23:56.29cr2_BabelO: so with some patience is should be possible to support artemis. you only need to trace/document all OMAP gpios+CPLD gpios.
23:57.12BabelOcr2_: ok, in what herald / artemis are diferent ? the mapping 1:1 of some register ?
23:57.42BabelOcr2_: another thing, when you say register are packed ? is it only in virtual memory or in physical too ?
23:57.45cr2_no, the cpld is really accessed through i2c.
23:57.49cr2_on herald.
23:57.52BabelOok
23:57.56cr2_in physical
23:58.18cr2_the virt/phys is the 4K mapping.
23:58.32cr2_the lower bits are the same.
23:58.40cr2_at least 4K on arm.
23:58.44BabelOcr2_: yes because i2c port seem to be packed also , if i compare them to omap kernel tree
23:58.47cr2_the cpu can#t less
23:58.54cr2_on alpha it was 8K
23:59.11BabelOok old learning from my electronics studies ;)
23:59.16cr2_it's omap730/850 specifics
23:59.25cr2_the mmc/sdio is also packed.
23:59.36BabelOi can't trace mmc register :(
23:59.57cr2_it's some haret-omap problem.

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