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06:02.17 | goxboxlive | morning |
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08:17.11 | BabelO_ | morning |
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09:26.37 | goxboxlive | BabelO_: Sometimes i have the same problem on universal modeam as with magician. But the diffrense is universal doesnt segfault. I have noticed that when i change the qtopiamodemcellbroadcast.cpp file it works fine. It seems like it doesnt go further for reading the at chat from the vendor file. Mybe one of the first at chat in the vendor file makes our modem hang. Could that be iit? |
09:31.02 | BabelO_ | goxboxlive : : no i trace at chat in vendor, that's not a problem, qtopia segfault when it go to qtopiamodem*.cpp file |
09:31.50 | goxboxlive | hmm ok |
09:33.23 | BabelO | goxboxlive : i m recompiling without any media engine , to have sound |
09:33.38 | BabelO | goxboxlive : it seem gstreamer won't compile |
09:34.03 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i havent had any lucj with gstreamer my self. |
09:34.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive : do you have jpeg support , |
09:34.43 | BabelO | goxboxlive -image-extension-order 'png,gif,xpm' |
09:34.52 | goxboxlive | yes, forget about mediaengine until Trolltech have released the new helix source. I thinks it's right around the corner now. |
09:35.40 | goxboxlive | BabelO: I dont think i have it in my configure file, but i am able to view jpeg photos, so i guess it is supported by default then. |
09:36.02 | BabelO | ok :) |
09:36.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive : i need a new computer :( it is too slow |
09:36.34 | goxboxlive | Ba do you kbow when lorn has birthday? Qtopia-4.3.0 should be released tha day before his birthday :-) So i guess helix is out aslo that day. |
09:37.04 | goxboxlive | Try to add more RAM, it might help. |
09:38.45 | BabelO | goxboxlive : no i don't :( |
10:16.00 | cr2 | hi |
10:16.05 | cr2 | BabelO: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=OMAP850_Registers |
10:16.39 | cr2 | did a lot of dirty work ;) but not all registers are there yet or documented |
10:16.59 | cr2 | BabelO: now i need some data on the gpios. |
10:17.00 | BabelO | cr2 : good :) |
10:17.52 | BabelO | cr2: so good you find dsp register ? |
10:18.12 | cr2 | pH5 |
10:18.24 | cr2 | but it's documented. |
10:18.30 | cr2 | http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/doc.html |
10:18.43 | cr2 | this is too little for gpio data |
10:18.53 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
10:19.14 | cr2 | you can trace much more things. like SD in/out, all the power management related bits. |
10:19.19 | cr2 | hi goxboxlive |
10:20.11 | cr2 | 6*32=192 gpio bits. |
10:20.37 | cr2 | then it will be a solid project :) |
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10:28.41 | wild | BabelO: hi, i want to know the terminal console status on qtopia!.... is it work? |
10:34.48 | goxboxlive | wild: no it doesnt. |
10:36.25 | wild | goxboxlive: ok.. thankyou! |
10:48.43 | wild | BabelO: I try to conf openmoko /etc/network/interface like qtopia, but i don't see usb0 device on my laptop..... there is another step that i do? |
10:55.43 | wild | goxboxlive: and you? can you help me? |
11:10.03 | goxboxlive | wild: it's the same basic sytem so it shopuld be the same. Just add 'auto USB0' to your interfaces file. Also change the IP so it does not conflict with the IP of Qtopia |
11:13.54 | wild | goxboxlive: i have 2 scenario: 1)terminal console for opie2 or opwnmoko wifi work |
11:14.23 | wild | 1) terminal console: I must create it or wait it work |
11:15.49 | wild | 2) i try to add auto usb in that file...... i try to copy that file from qtopia to openmoko... but don't work..... i try to copy: iw* package, all module (acx included) and pccardctl to openmoko, but wifi don't work.. |
11:15.58 | wild | can you suggest something? |
11:16.17 | wild | sorry for my bad english |
11:18.02 | goxboxlive | I dont have a BA so i am not familiar with the wlan stuff on it. I dont think it's similar to universal. |
11:18.27 | wild | :( |
11:18.38 | wild | ok! |
11:24.11 | wild | i hope to meet BabelO ! see you! |
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11:47.57 | ellisway | <PROTECTED> |
11:48.02 | ellisway | oops |
11:48.26 | ellisway | goxboxlive u about ? |
11:50.47 | ellisway | i just got another universal so that i can have 1 for doing linux stuff on and the other with wince when it comes back from htc after having the usb socket repaired |
12:04.11 | goxboxlive | ellisway: hi, i am at work :-) |
12:04.21 | goxboxlive | Well two uni's, that's good |
12:04.21 | ellisway | ok np |
12:04.36 | ellisway | yeh |
12:05.02 | ellisway | decided i cant afford to not have a working uni so i got my self a spare unit |
12:05.42 | ellisway | but means i can also try and help out a bit more with some of the development side of things |
12:06.31 | ellisway | just need to get another hdd for 1 of my nix boxex so that i can setup a build enviroment |
12:07.27 | ellisway | i have a feeling that if i tried to get the toolchain and the source i`d run out of space before even typing make |
12:08.06 | ellisway | /dev/hda2 13G 13G 178M 99% / |
12:08.08 | ellisway | yeh |
12:08.10 | ellisway | no chance |
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12:35.39 | BabelO | cr2 : so we can use same driver than ba for at command /data ? i mean dpram driver |
12:35.47 | BabelO | i know tornado have its driver but... |
12:36.35 | cr2 | BabelO: why ? |
12:36.57 | cr2 | we may unify the kernel interface. |
12:37.03 | BabelO | ok |
12:37.17 | BabelO | this driver look strnage to me |
12:37.17 | cr2 | there is a dpram on athena too. |
12:37.34 | cr2 | btw, the look at the sdio_uart driver in .24-rc1 |
12:37.40 | cr2 | maybe even in .23 |
12:38.00 | cr2 | that's the best virtual UART driver i know. |
12:38.18 | cr2 | maybe we can reuse it. |
12:39.09 | cr2 | hmm. i wish the hh.org kernel was updated from .21 |
12:39.12 | BabelO | good , do you know if there is any plan to upgrade hh kernel ? |
12:39.20 | BabelO | ok ;) same idea |
12:39.44 | cr2 | if psokolovsky will not appear soon, we may convince pH5 to do it :) |
12:41.44 | BabelO | cr2 : can you point me to a link where a small description of syren is ? |
12:56.00 | cr2 | BabelO: http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/release/gsm/20060630/gsm-typhoon-0.1.0.tar.gz |
12:56.51 | BabelO | cr2: thx, i think it was same i ve tested , i ll look |
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15:53.18 | cr2 | BabelO: the LCDC is missing. and comparing the list with the OMAP850 diagramm from TI, i don't see some subsystems, or they remain unnamed. |
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16:13.58 | goxboxlive | pH5 : What does this mean (ti) |
16:14.04 | goxboxlive | pH5: "Motorola Ezx Platform") |
16:14.04 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
16:15.11 | goxboxlive | pH5 forget it i found it |
16:15.55 | BabelO | cr2 : for lcdc it seem it is ok, my lcd is working with omap lcd driver |
16:31.59 | cr2 | goxboxlive: looks like a bug. |
16:32.15 | cr2 | BabelO: the lcdc is not in the register table. |
16:32.51 | cr2 | BabelO: do you know where is the TS, GPS and so on ? |
16:32.54 | goxboxlive | cr2: no it's not. It's the vendor plugin. Actually the same as BA/MA are using |
16:32.55 | cr2 | BT, IR |
16:33.15 | cr2 | goxboxlive: but ezx is not using TI. |
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16:33.41 | goxboxlive | So, when we have the phone working in qtopia for MA/BA we will also have it working for a780 |
16:33.53 | goxboxlive | But maybe he plgin stuff are equal |
16:33.55 | cr2 | no. |
16:34.02 | goxboxlive | ok |
16:34.19 | cr2 | a780 has a very strange multiplexor. |
16:34.34 | cr2 | but there is a kernel driver for it. |
16:34.48 | cr2 | do you know how to telnet to a780 ? |
16:35.05 | cr2 | i need to kill this stupid lapisrv |
16:35.25 | cr2 | if it will not help, i'll throw it away ;) |
16:35.44 | goxboxlive | cr2: hmm there is a howto on the moto forums. |
16:35.59 | goxboxlive | but i dont remember where |
16:36.41 | goxboxlive | you can install opie-system for exz and kill it from there i think |
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17:17.36 | BabelO | back |
17:18.00 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
17:18.17 | goxboxlive | i have just builded me a openmoko image, man it's slow compared to Qtopia |
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17:22.36 | other_NeoRa_uzer | good evening |
17:23.41 | Hoots | I heard that some of your use a linux on a BA? Its true& |
17:24.06 | BabelO | Hoots: not really use |
17:24.33 | Hoots | BabelO you mean thats unuseble os? |
17:25.19 | BabelO | it miss some functionality under linux, like sound record, camera, and phone |
17:29.53 | Hoots | BabelO hmm. Interesting. you can help me install that? Sorry but i know Linux like you know Russian :)) I can write what i do, and you can correct me? |
17:31.03 | BabelO | yes if you want |
17:31.18 | Hoots | Ok |
17:31.21 | BabelO | but you need to know linux to install it |
17:31.40 | BabelO | it is not really user friendly |
17:34.07 | Hoots | <Babelo> I know some command for this operation, but some of them don work. Ok at first i Have "Live cd", can i use it or i must install kubuntu? |
17:34.56 | BabelO | better is to have a card reader, with live cd is ok |
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17:35.46 | Hoots | Yep i have card reader and Live cd. Can you wait a few minutes i reboot Pc from Live cd? |
17:35.53 | BabelO | ok |
17:36.03 | goxboxlive | cr2: how do i figure out the voltage status on universal? cat /sys/class/power_supply/ds2760-battery.0/voltage_now gives me: 3801520 |
17:36.44 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is in uV now ? |
17:37.21 | goxboxlive | µV ? |
17:37.27 | goxboxlive | thx |
17:37.59 | goxboxlive | so you are saying that my battery is U=3,8V? |
17:38.07 | BabelO | yes it seem |
17:39.53 | goxboxlive | BabelO: µ = [AltGr]+[m] |
17:41.14 | goxboxlive | BabelO: why do they use this in the battery.cpp file? http://pastebin.no/2728 |
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17:42.32 | Hoots | its i again |
17:42.40 | BabelO | goxboxlive: is it n,ot the automatic detection to switch to backup battery when you remove main on fic phone ? |
17:43.27 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok, that's clever |
17:44.06 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i see some line in this code about main/backup battery yesturday |
17:44.12 | goxboxlive | wonder why uni/Ma doesnt show the charging animation. It worked on A780 |
17:44.16 | Hoots | BabelO system-console-fdisk /dev/sdc |
17:44.25 | BabelO | Hoots: you need a full backup of your phone before start |
17:45.29 | Hoots | i know :) it absolutly clean i keep all kontakts on sim |
17:46.16 | BabelO | Hoots: ok :) it is for kontact software i tell you ... but if you have wm it is more safe |
17:47.01 | Hoots | BabelO dont worry it not your problem :) |
17:47.29 | Hoots | then i write "p" and saw one derection |
17:47.40 | Hoots | in fat 32 |
17:47.54 | Hoots | then write d |
17:48.04 | Hoots | then n |
17:48.19 | Hoots | chose primary |
17:48.28 | Hoots | 1 |
17:48.50 | BabelO | Hoots: ok :) |
17:48.51 | Hoots | first cylinder must be default? |
17:49.08 | BabelO | Hoots: yes |
17:49.17 | BabelO | or just 1 |
17:49.31 | Hoots | then +30M? |
17:49.39 | BabelO | yes for fat partition |
17:49.50 | Hoots | then w |
17:50.08 | Hoots | make a new derection ext |
17:50.39 | Hoots | partition 2 |
17:51.05 | Hoots | first cylinder default? or .......? |
17:51.16 | BabelO | default |
17:51.27 | Hoots | size too? |
17:51.55 | BabelO | you have a value between parenthesis which is the max value possible |
17:52.15 | cr2 | goxboxlive: li-ion battery is 4.2V |
17:52.35 | Hoots | ok max :) |
17:53.21 | cr2 | BabelO: what is the qtopia image size ? |
17:53.24 | BabelO | Hoots: the p again to check your partition and partition type |
17:53.33 | BabelO | cr2: let me check ;) |
17:53.53 | Hoots | brrrr first partition in lunix not in fat just a moment |
17:53.59 | BabelO | cr2: 29145297 Oct 7 23:42 Angstrom-Qtopia-HTCBlueangel-4.3.0.tar.bz2 compressed size |
17:54.14 | BabelO | cr2: i ve to boot ba in few minutes now |
17:54.19 | cr2 | BabelO: not compressed. i'm interested in the SD image size |
17:54.25 | BabelO | cr2: yes wait ;) |
17:55.25 | Hoots | BabelO ok 1fat 2extended, then format bouth? |
17:55.36 | cr2 | BabelO: there should be a linboot-ba.exe and a dd'able image. this stupid 2-partitioning should come to an end ;) |
17:55.49 | cr2 | BabelO: wasting a bit of bandwidth is ok . |
17:56.24 | BabelO | Hoots: first is fat that's ok, second need to be changed with t command then 83 for linux type |
17:57.09 | Hoots | second must be number 83 ? linux ok |
17:57.38 | BabelO | that's ok so |
18:00.07 | Hoots | BabelO you mean that second must be pimary too? |
18:00.31 | BabelO | Hoots: let me check my sd card :) |
18:01.14 | BabelO | cr2: hummm my used size on sd is 110484kb ... but i have many tools with qtopia inside :) |
18:02.10 | BabelO | Hoots: this is my 128Mb card |
18:02.12 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
18:02.12 | BabelO | /dev/sda1 1 62 7920 b W95 FAT32 |
18:02.12 | BabelO | /dev/sda2 63 961 115072 83 Linux |
18:03.12 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, so we need a 128M+ card. |
18:03.58 | BabelO | cr2: my 128Mb card we ve roadmap and flite and qtopia |
18:04.00 | BabelO | /dev/sda1 7890 3672 4218 47% /media/usbdisk |
18:04.00 | BabelO | /dev/sda2 111429 88119 17557 84% /media/usbdisk-1 |
18:04.06 | cr2 | BabelO: are there any partition geometry limits in wince ? |
18:04.15 | Hoots | BabelO hmm cant make 2d derection 83 lunix why? it primary or ext derection? |
18:04.50 | BabelO | Hoots: i think i made two primary partition, first one is fat |
18:05.12 | Hoots | heh |
18:06.11 | Hoots | it work .....it work |
18:06.28 | Hoots | then we must format all derection? |
18:07.02 | BabelO | Hoots: yes first one mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1 |
18:07.12 | BabelO | and second mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc2 |
18:08.40 | Hoots | mistake whn i format ext strange |
18:09.00 | Hoots | it write no such derectori |
18:09.12 | cr2 | BabelO: rndis does not work for me on athena ;) |
18:09.43 | BabelO | Hoots: maybe it is command line ? |
18:10.27 | BabelO | cr2: you are happy with a non working thing :) |
18:11.13 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok i ve sound too, but battery meter not working |
18:11.18 | cr2 | BabelO: i've managed to run wifi on my notebook with an ancient prism2 card. bcm43xx doesn't want to work. |
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18:11.42 | Hoots | BabelO then i write first command he write to me a date with secooooond same but after he write could not start dev/sdc2 i think its not terrible mistake |
18:12.13 | cr2 | Hoots: can you format your card in wince ? |
18:13.02 | cr2 | i doubt that the kernel checks partition id. |
18:13.15 | Hoots | cr2 win ce? in pocket? or what does it mean ? |
18:14.21 | cr2 | Hoots: yes, just format the card in wince |
18:14.45 | cr2 | it will create one partition |
18:15.26 | cr2 | then run 'mke2fs -j -m 0 /dev/sda1' for this card. |
18:15.52 | cr2 | and untar the distro there. |
18:16.16 | cr2 | tar xfvjp distro.tar.bz2 -C /where/is/your/card/mounted |
18:16.41 | Hoots | o_O |
18:16.47 | cr2 | then put the linuxboot-ba.exe into \Storage |
18:16.52 | cr2 | and click on it. |
18:17.19 | cr2 | BabelO: what was the python command which replaced linboot ? |
18:17.32 | Hoots | stop stop stop |
18:17.43 | cr2 | well, i can stil run linboot, maybe it's half-broken only on the universal. |
18:17.52 | Hoots | BabelO: all sectors are formated |
18:17.56 | Hoots | then |
18:18.42 | BabelO | Hoots: mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt |
18:19.05 | BabelO | Hoots: copy haret*.exe zImage and startup.txt to /mnt |
18:19.34 | BabelO | Hoots: do you have all these files ? |
18:19.49 | BabelO | cr2: no idea, it is somewhere in the logs |
18:20.16 | Hoots | yes |
18:20.20 | Hoots | i have |
18:20.26 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i am using ficphone battery file. It is working, it shows the right status, but it doesnt show any animation while charging. It increase it's value when the power is increasing though. |
18:21.03 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i use same, but does not work, i ve to look, does it work on magician too ? |
18:21.39 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes, same as on universal. It has allways worked on both for me. |
18:21.54 | Hoots | BabelO hmm write : cant find /dev/sdc1/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
18:22.01 | cr2 | goxboxlive: some hardcoded machine names ? |
18:22.13 | goxboxlive | cr2: no |
18:22.20 | BabelO | Hoots: mount /dev/sdc1 <space> /mnt |
18:22.32 | BabelO | Hoots: you miss the space |
18:22.43 | Hoots | tvay mat |
18:23.15 | Hoots | only root can do that |
18:23.35 | BabelO | ~x fr ru Vous pouvez utiliser BabelFish pour traduire :) |
18:23.44 | BabelO | lol |
18:24.11 | BabelO | Hoots: and you haven't this root password ? |
18:24.26 | goxboxlive | ~x no en dette er en test |
18:24.53 | Hoots | you must be joking? it live cd |
18:26.12 | cr2 | Hoots: id ? |
18:26.24 | BabelO | Hoots: if it is live cd maybe it automount sd card partition when you plug in your sd card |
18:27.25 | Hoots | BabelO what? |
18:27.45 | BabelO | Hoots: just unplug then replug your sd card |
18:28.05 | Hoots | oo |
18:28.10 | BabelO | when you open konqueror, with luck you can see sd card partition |
18:30.31 | Hoots | 30m removable media - kde daemon |
18:30.54 | cr2 | BabelO: do you really need the first partition ? |
18:31.18 | BabelO | cr2: not really, we can hae a one shot start then ;) |
18:32.49 | Hoots | BabelO owner ubuntu ubuntu permissions drwxr-xr-x? and why when i insert sd linuuux saw 2 card first 30000000000000000000 |
18:33.04 | Hoots | 30 m |
18:33.11 | cr2 | Hoots: under which id are you running ? |
18:33.12 | Hoots | second 480 |
18:33.34 | cr2 | BabelO: let's agree on a 1 partition setup. |
18:33.40 | BabelO | Hoots: so it is ok, your partition are mounted |
18:34.29 | Hoots | BabelO then? |
18:34.30 | BabelO | cr2 it is unbuntu ;) new windows-linux world |
18:35.24 | BabelO | Hoots: to find where are your partition just go to console |
18:35.40 | BabelO | Hoots: then "mount" command |
18:36.15 | Hoots | yes |
18:37.35 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm an old hardliner :) |
18:38.40 | Hoots | my brain i think i lost him :( |
18:39.33 | Hoots | BabelO after mount |
18:39.52 | BabelO | Hoots: now you see where your partition are mounted ? |
18:40.51 | Hoots | i saw a many many rows |
18:41.20 | BabelO | Hoots: do you have something like this |
18:41.20 | Hoots | unifonts on |
18:41.30 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
18:43.17 | Hoots | <PROTECTED> |
18:43.32 | BabelO | Hoots: good ;) |
18:43.41 | BabelO | where is sdc1 ? |
18:43.57 | Hoots | under |
18:44.38 | cr2 | BabelO: can you pack zimage & friends with tools/make-bootbundle.py into a wince.exe ? |
18:44.57 | BabelO | Hoots: cr2 yes i can if it works on first shot :) |
18:45.24 | BabelO | Hoots: so you have to copy files haret*exe zImage startup.txt to /media/sdc1 |
18:46.06 | Hoots | BabelO in console or by mouse and table? :) |
18:47.11 | BabelO | Hoots: as you want in console should be quick, command is : |
18:47.32 | cr2 | BabelO: try it ;) |
18:47.46 | BabelO | cp <where are sources files>/* /media/sdc1 |
18:47.53 | BabelO | cr2: ok |
18:48.08 | cr2 | BabelO: where is your zimage & co. ? i'll try it too. |
18:48.16 | Hoots | BabelO: no thx i do this with mouse :) and then? |
18:48.42 | BabelO | cr2: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/O.P.I.E-II/ |
18:49.07 | BabelO | with second partition, you have to unpack the tar.bz2 file to it |
18:50.10 | Hoots | gpe-ba.tar.bz |
18:50.53 | Hoots | BabelO in a second partition, i saw a foulder lost+found its normal? |
18:51.07 | BabelO | Hoots: yes this one, unpack it into /media/sdc2 |
18:51.12 | BabelO | Hoots: yes it is normal |
18:51.48 | cr2 | BabelO: why do you use such bizarre old haret ? :) |
18:52.44 | BabelO | cr2: you are speaking like me at work ;), not so old it is just 5 moth old |
18:52.52 | cr2 | LOL |
19:06.41 | cr2 | BabelO: if len(args) != 4: |
19:07.05 | cr2 | it wants a ramdisk. linload was more bright |
19:08.39 | cr2 | WARNING: Linload is deprecated. Please see tools/make-bootbundle.py |
19:08.42 | cr2 | but it works :) |
19:12.12 | cr2 | BabelO: i've tested it, and it boots. |
19:12.28 | BabelO | cr2 good |
19:12.31 | cr2 | BabelO: now i need to run fdisk on a file with -o loop |
19:12.49 | cr2 | BabelO: linload-ba1.exe |
19:12.56 | cr2 | i can upload it to sf.net |
19:13.28 | BabelO | cr2 ok or to linuxtogo |
19:14.00 | cr2 | dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=$((1024*128)) of=junk_qtopia4 |
19:15.26 | cr2 | BabelO: do you know how to run fdisk on a file ? |
19:15.40 | BabelO | cr2: losetup :) |
19:16.22 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
19:16.37 | cr2 | You must set cylinders. |
19:16.37 | cr2 | You can do this from the extra functions menu. |
19:16.37 | cr2 | Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) |
19:17.05 | cr2 | Command (m for help): p |
19:17.06 | cr2 | Disk junk_qtopia4: 0 MB, 0 bytes |
19:17.06 | cr2 | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 0 cylinders |
19:17.37 | cr2 | Command (m for help): x |
19:17.37 | cr2 | Expert command (m for help): m |
19:17.49 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
19:18.13 | cr2 | so, how many cylinders i need ? |
19:18.25 | cr2 | will wince be happy with 63 sectors/track ? |
19:18.41 | cr2 | and 255 heads |
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19:20.21 | BabelO | cr2: don't know :( |
19:20.34 | cr2 | BabelO: right now it's |
19:20.37 | cr2 | Disk /dev/sdb: 125 MB, 125960192 bytes |
19:20.37 | cr2 | 4 heads, 61 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders |
19:20.37 | cr2 | Units = cylinders of 244 * 512 = 124928 bytes |
19:20.55 | cr2 | hehe. 128M is too much. |
19:21.09 | Hoots | BabelO i think i made a terrible mistake :| device doesnt work, last what i remember it was a pinguin whit big red eyes |
19:21.18 | BabelO | cr2: you setup a virtual disk to save data ? |
19:21.36 | BabelO | Hoots: no big eye now :) |
19:21.45 | cr2 | BabelO: no, just run fdisk on a file |
19:21.58 | Hoots | yep |
19:21.58 | BabelO | Hoots: just a progress bar and thena splash screen angstrom |
19:22.19 | Hoots | <BabelO> yes |
19:22.20 | BabelO | Hoots: then you need to wait a while on first boot |
19:22.39 | cr2 | BabelO: i'll take a 512M card then. and will use it as a 128M. |
19:22.59 | Hoots | <BabelO> at this time a made a reboot, and now nothig work |
19:24.42 | Hoots | fuuuh it work :) |
19:26.10 | cr2 | BabelO: this one is even better |
19:26.13 | cr2 | Disk /dev/sdb: 2059 MB, 2059403264 bytes |
19:26.13 | cr2 | 38 heads, 37 sectors/track, 2860 cylinders |
19:26.13 | cr2 | Units = cylinders of 1406 * 512 = 719872 bytes |
19:26.36 | cr2 | BabelO: the numbers look completely random. |
19:26.43 | Hoots | BabelO strange, when i insert sd in device linux start , but i must reboot him? |
19:28.39 | cr2 | BabelO: does not match when i multiply. |
19:31.49 | Hoots | cr2 a pingvin with red eyes and 0===== normal? |
19:31.55 | BabelO | cr2: does it work with losetup ? |
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19:33.16 | cr2 | BabelO: how do i use losetup without crypto ? |
19:33.31 | cr2 | Hoots: what haret and zimage are you using ? |
19:33.43 | cr2 | Hoots: sounds really ancient. |
19:35.03 | Hoots | <cr2> just read http://mobiledevice.ru/Blue-Angel-HTC-Operation-System-ustanovka-Linux.aspx |
19:36.25 | cr2 | Hoots: it's a 2 years old setup |
19:36.41 | cr2 | 2.6.12 kernel |
19:37.02 | cr2 | i wish we can delete it from gnulinux.biz |
19:37.29 | cr2 | BabelO: i think nothing is better with this setup. |
19:38.14 | Hoots | <cr2> fcuk, fools, what u can say? idiots.... if you have all thats files may you send it to me hootsik@gmail.com |
19:39.02 | cr2 | Hoots: i'll upload a selfbooting kernel bundle now. you should put it in \Storage. ok ? |
19:39.39 | BabelO | cr2: how to do :) |
19:39.42 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
19:39.49 | BabelO | losetup /dev/loop0 build |
19:39.49 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
19:39.49 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
19:40.13 | Hoots | 2 yers..... they are posted it a few days ago |
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19:40.27 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, so no crypto. hehe, may be fun with aes. |
19:42.43 | cr2 | Hoots: http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/ |
19:42.58 | cr2 | you take linload-ba1.exe and put it into \Storage |
19:44.36 | cr2 | BabelO: only root can use /dev/loop0 |
19:46.49 | Hoots | BabelO cr2 THX very mutch, for your Patience, tommorow i`ll say that they delete that topic about Linux on BA. Sorry for my bad english. |
19:47.52 | cr2 | Hoots: maybe you'll boot it first ? :) |
19:48.26 | cr2 | BabelO: losetup uses 255/63 |
19:48.29 | cr2 | Disk /dev/loop1: 134 MB, 134217728 bytes |
19:48.29 | cr2 | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 16 cylinders |
19:48.29 | cr2 | Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes |
19:49.21 | Hoots | =0) |
19:49.37 | cr2 | Hoots: did you get the .exe ? |
19:51.43 | Hoots | <cr2> download |
19:52.07 | cr2 | Hoots: are you using GPRS ? such funny reply latency ;) |
19:52.48 | Hoots | <cr2> Yep, GPRS :) |
19:53.41 | cr2 | BabelO: /dev/loop1 126931 80718 46213 64% /mnt |
19:53.55 | cr2 | Hoots: 80MB over gprs is not funny ;) |
19:55.05 | Hoots | <cr2> unlimited :) but...long.... |
19:56.00 | cr2 | ok, get qtopia4 image then. |
19:56.23 | cr2 | and you can already test booting linux in the meantime. |
19:56.40 | cr2 | by just running the linload-ba1.exe |
19:56.59 | cr2 | it will crash, because it can't mount root. |
19:57.13 | cr2 | and then you need to do a hardreset |
19:57.20 | cr2 | if you don't use wince5. |
19:57.32 | Hoots | <cr2> O_o qtopia image 80mb? it funny like....hmm... |
19:57.57 | cr2 | Hoots: it has some junk, that we can squeeze out. |
19:58.02 | Hoots | <cr2> download lin board next? |
19:58.38 | cr2 | Hoots: but it also has 'roadmap', a gps route planning app. well, this version can't do route planning now :) |
19:58.58 | cr2 | Hoots: the exe file is here http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/ |
19:59.03 | Hoots | <cr2> it doesnt matter, in which foulder 2577 or linux? |
19:59.18 | cr2 | qtopia4 is at http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/O.P.I.E-II/ |
19:59.47 | cr2 | Hoots: put it on the device. \Storage is the best, so it will survive the hard reset. |
20:00.00 | cr2 | but you can put it into any directory. |
20:00.14 | cr2 | _do not_ put it on the SD. |
20:00.43 | Hoots | heh |
20:01.33 | Hoots | <cr2> why we need qutopia? can i start linux without? |
20:01.58 | cr2 | you need some root filesystem |
20:02.31 | Hoots | <cr2> your old version? |
20:02.36 | cr2 | it can be a ramdisk. |
20:02.42 | cr2 | which old version ? |
20:03.00 | cr2 | we want a full wince replacement, that's why we use qtopia. |
20:03.13 | cr2 | not only on the blueangel, but on magician and universal too. |
20:03.21 | cr2 | soon on hermes and athena :) |
20:03.47 | BabelO | and artemis in a far future ;) |
20:04.58 | Hoots | men you are genius or crazy? :)))) why are you doing that? |
20:05.30 | cr2 | BabelO: tracing and documenting :) |
20:06.19 | cr2 | Hoots: it's already running on magician and universal. universal just needs better power management support to stay alive longer. |
20:07.18 | cr2 | Hoots: and i booted linux on athena 6 months ago ;) it's only now we gathered all necessary data and useful drivers. |
20:07.44 | Hoots | heh THX, i m going to sleep, thx for your help, in monday i`ll back :)) with all soft :))) |
20:07.54 | cr2 | and as i told you, linux on blueangel was running 2 years ago. |
20:07.58 | cr2 | ok. |
20:09.15 | cr2 | BabelO: dd if=qtopia4 of=/dev/sdb bs=512 |
20:09.58 | BabelO | cr2: but i erase sd card information then |
20:10.09 | BabelO | :) |
20:11.25 | cr2 | yes, that's on purpose. |
20:11.44 | cr2 | it's a 2GB card, but i write only 128M. |
20:14.27 | cr2 | BabelO: it's a good idea to keep http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel uptodate |
20:14.47 | BabelO | cr2: it is up to date ;) |
20:15.12 | cr2 | otherwise it's translated into other languages after two years, and the people wonder why linux is such a complex piece of shit :) |
20:16.18 | cr2 | hehe. wince wanted to format my nice new card. |
20:17.11 | cr2 | BabelO: i've replaced the .ico in my linload.exe :) |
20:17.39 | cr2 | to the .ico used in gnu-haret. the linuxbios logo :) |
20:17.50 | BabelO | you use arm-wince-gcc ? |
20:18.10 | cr2 | no. cegcc |
20:18.13 | cr2 | http://linuxbios.org/index.php/Welcome_to_LinuxBIOS |
20:18.28 | cr2 | top left corner |
20:18.38 | BabelO | he he :) |
20:18.45 | BabelO | i want a war tux |
20:18.53 | cr2 | i find it cool for the linux bootloader . |
20:18.54 | BabelO | or tux army |
20:19.20 | cr2 | when you'll create the rom flashable with RUU :D |
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20:21.06 | cr2 | BabelO: "unknown partition table" |
20:22.47 | cr2 | BabelO: weird. |
20:23.00 | cr2 | it's /dev/sdb now. |
20:23.21 | cr2 | no partition table also |
20:24.19 | cr2 | root=/dev/mmcblk0 ? |
20:24.23 | BabelO | cr2: yes dd broke all i do already this experience with an hdd, i dd a 425 Mo drive the dd of to a 2Gb drive, result is my 2Gb drive look like a 420 Mb drive :( |
20:27.40 | cr2 | yes, it's ok. |
20:27.52 | cr2 | but the partition table is broken for some reason. |
20:31.42 | cr2 | lol |
20:31.58 | cr2 | BabelO: booted without the partition table. |
20:32.12 | cr2 | oe splash sux. |
20:32.21 | BabelO | cr2: linux is really better than windows :) |
20:32.28 | cr2 | can we have a qtopia related splash ? |
20:32.57 | cr2 | now it hangs on bluetooth. |
20:33.04 | BabelO | humm need to ask ljp about that ;) or we add your new tux friend as boot screen ;) |
20:35.04 | cr2 | BabelO: why does it hang after starting bt ? |
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20:35.58 | cr2 | usb0 addr ? |
20:36.06 | BabelO | cr2: don't know we have exactly same image, or it is first boot and it take more time |
20:36.25 | BabelO | 192.168.0.201 for host and 192.168.0.202 for ba |
20:36.28 | cr2 | maybe, but it's confusing |
20:36.31 | cr2 | ok. |
20:38.17 | cr2 | lsusb is ok, but i can't ping. |
20:38.39 | BabelO | try 192.168.1.206 then for ba if it is first image |
20:38.48 | BabelO | now i use standard oe ip |
20:39.24 | cr2 | 1.206 ? |
20:39.32 | BabelO | ues |
20:39.49 | cr2 | i can't use it, 1.0 is wifi ;) |
20:40.19 | BabelO | he he route add 192.168.1.206 gw 192.168.1.205 |
20:40.31 | BabelO | where 192.168.1.205 is usb0 |
20:41.53 | cr2 | yes, logged in |
20:41.58 | cr2 | 192.168.1.1 |
20:42.01 | cr2 | is the host |
20:42.21 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
20:42.29 | cr2 | afair it's the AT ? |
20:43.00 | BabelO | i don y know how to remove this default oz |
20:43.16 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Serial |
20:43.40 | cr2 | maybe that's the reason for unhappy qtopia ? |
20:43.58 | cr2 | patch /etc/inittab |
20:44.10 | cr2 | which package owns /etc/inittab ? |
20:45.08 | cr2 | serial is /dev/ttyS2 on ba |
20:45.17 | cr2 | but it is still hanging. |
20:45.49 | cr2 | btw, how do you use bt ? |
20:46.02 | BabelO | cr2: hciattach ? |
20:46.03 | cr2 | i had a custom driver on universal |
20:46.13 | cr2 | yeah, but it's not started |
20:46.25 | cr2 | but the bt daemons are started. |
20:46.38 | BabelO | i ve to make a clean image, i know, but no time actually :( |
20:46.53 | cr2 | hciattach will not handle suspend/resume |
20:47.17 | cr2 | rfcomm 35868 0 |
20:47.21 | cr2 | hidp 15040 2 |
20:47.21 | cr2 | l2cap 20580 10 rfcomm,hidp |
20:47.21 | cr2 | g_ether 24076 0 |
20:47.21 | cr2 | blueangel_pcmcia 4064 1 |
20:47.21 | cr2 | pxa2xx_core 11648 1 blueangel_pcmcia |
20:47.22 | cr2 | pcmcia_core 31952 1 pxa2xx_core |
20:47.23 | BabelO | maybe with have to use nokia driver ;) |
20:47.24 | cr2 | that's all |
20:47.30 | cr2 | ? |
20:47.46 | cr2 | you need just to pull some gpios. |
20:47.55 | BabelO | cr2: yes i have a brf6150 driver from nokia kernel |
20:48.25 | cr2 | hciattach /dev/ttyS1 texas 115200 |
20:48.26 | cr2 | ? |
20:48.41 | cr2 | it's a piece of shit, and not a driver :) |
20:48.49 | cr2 | Initialization timed out. |
20:49.03 | BabelO | hciattach -S tibt...bts /dev/ttyS" texas |
20:49.08 | BabelO | hciattach -S tibt...bts /dev/ttyS3 texas |
20:49.09 | cr2 | hm hwuart |
20:49.22 | cr2 | hciattach /dev/ttyS3 texas 115200 |
20:49.28 | cr2 | yes, now it works. |
20:49.38 | cr2 | the .bts is also irrelevant, btw ;) |
20:50.05 | cr2 | we need to do our own, of make a hcitool shell script hack. |
20:50.13 | cr2 | s/of /or / |
20:52.36 | cr2 | root@htcblueangel:~$ hcitool scan |
20:52.36 | cr2 | Scanning ... |
20:53.07 | cr2 | 01:13:A4:C8:22:65 Ameo |
20:53.09 | cr2 | :) |
20:53.39 | cr2 | but qtopia still does not start |
20:53.58 | BabelO | cr2: ldconfig ? |
20:54.05 | BabelO | try qpe by hand |
20:54.31 | cr2 | hehe. |
20:54.42 | cr2 | why it's not an rc script ? |
20:55.01 | cr2 | how do i start it manually ? |
20:55.02 | BabelO | hum yes it is i think .. which image did you take ? |
20:55.14 | BabelO | look in /etc/init.d/qpe |
20:55.29 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
20:55.45 | BabelO | oh ! really old image ;) |
20:55.51 | cr2 | no /etc/init.d/qpe |
20:56.04 | cr2 | it's what you have at linuxtogo |
20:56.20 | BabelO | really .. humm i have to replace it then |
20:56.27 | cr2 | and what the russian guy will download over gprs ;) |
20:57.17 | cr2 | i need to calibrate the screen. |
20:57.26 | BabelO | ts_calibrate ? |
20:57.52 | cr2 | now it started. |
20:58.04 | cr2 | no battery, but the bt icon is on :) |
20:58.28 | cr2 | and it's too dark for me. |
20:58.45 | cr2 | more warm colors will help the default install. |
21:00.14 | cr2 | BabelO: is there a screen calibration tool in qtopia ? |
21:00.31 | BabelO | cr2: it seem yes, there is a menu inside for that |
21:01.12 | cr2 | well, but if there is no /etc/pointercal, it should be running before everything. |
21:01.46 | BabelO | yes but it does not start automatically as it is written into qtopia doc :( it need primarydevice=Touchscreen |
21:02.05 | cr2 | what about wifi ? |
21:02.22 | BabelO | wifi works .. do you have pccardctl into this image ? |
21:03.13 | cr2 | no. |
21:03.31 | cr2 | can you upload a working image ? |
21:03.40 | BabelO | so it is really wrong image, i don't understand, ok let me do a fresh one to replace |
21:03.58 | cr2 | and i guess we need to solve the screen calibration issue. and bt. |
21:04.06 | cr2 | otherwise it's not very useful |
21:04.13 | cr2 | and the getty on modem ;) |
21:04.33 | BabelO | yes i already solve all this issue on image i have here .... |
21:04.38 | BabelO | i just use it today |
21:06.45 | BabelO | wait few minutes ;) |
21:06.56 | cr2 | ok. |
21:08.10 | cr2 | wince is inasen |
21:08.15 | cr2 | Disk /dev/sdb: 2059 MB, 2059403264 bytes |
21:08.19 | cr2 | 1 heads, 62 sectors/track, 64875 cylinders |
21:08.23 | cr2 | Units = cylinders of 62 * 512 = 31744 bytes |
21:08.27 | cr2 | Disk identifier: 0x00000000 |
21:08.27 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
21:08.27 | cr2 | /dev/sdb1 1 64876 2011135+ 5 Extended |
21:08.27 | cr2 | Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. |
21:08.27 | cr2 | /dev/sdb5 1 64876 2011135 b W95 FAT32 |
21:08.28 | cr2 | wtf ? |
21:08.46 | cr2 | i let it format the card :) |
21:13.33 | BabelO | cr2: ok image finished ;) |
21:14.16 | cr2 | :) |
21:15.35 | BabelO | compressing now |
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21:17.36 | cr2 | 7z ? |
21:18.18 | BabelO | cr2: not this format again ;) |
21:19.00 | BabelO | uploading |
21:22.20 | BabelO | finished |
21:23.01 | BabelO | cr2: you can download |
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21:27.32 | cr2 | downloading |
21:29.35 | cr2 | BabelO: 61MB ? |
21:29.54 | BabelO | hum :) |
21:30.00 | cr2 | that is very good. we can further stip it down. |
21:30.06 | cr2 | s/stip/strip/ |
21:30.51 | BabelO | already downloaded ? |
21:31.09 | BabelO | on first boot you have to wait a little :( |
21:32.21 | cr2 | can we add a message ? |
21:32.34 | cr2 | please wait for 50 sec :) |
21:32.43 | BabelO | humm yes instead of angstrom boot screen i can make something |
21:33.42 | BabelO | he he i just install flite ;) |
21:34.40 | BabelO | i ve to install roadmap when i finish :) |
21:35.06 | BabelO | maybe tsdogs advance a lot these day :) |
21:37.41 | cr2 | create a .bb ? |
21:39.03 | cr2 | BabelO: loading without a partition table is fun. |
21:39.40 | cr2 | this way we can use 'sdtool' from itsutils ? hmm, how it is called ? |
21:39.44 | BabelO | cr2: i often get back hardrive what windows don't want |
21:40.35 | cr2 | sdwrite.exe |
21:41.24 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XdaUtils/psdwrite.exe |
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21:43.13 | BabelO | cr2: does this image boot ? |
21:46.20 | cr2 | yes, but the qtopia is not started ? |
21:46.30 | BabelO | wait ;) |
21:46.34 | BabelO | it start |
21:47.29 | cr2 | ping 192.168.1.206 |
21:47.33 | cr2 | does not work too. |
21:47.46 | cr2 | it said |
21:47.56 | cr2 | INIT: no more processes in this runlevel. |
21:48.00 | BabelO | no no, this image is done from OE, so it is latest 192.168.0.202 |
21:48.13 | BabelO | yes it is ok, i think it should start |
21:48.29 | cr2 | ok. |
21:49.01 | cr2 | no. |
21:49.16 | cr2 | wow. you load the old brf6150 firmware ? |
21:49.23 | BabelO | yes |
21:49.31 | cr2 | hardcore :) |
21:49.37 | BabelO | qtopia does not start ? |
21:49.38 | cr2 | does it work = |
21:49.43 | BabelO | yes |
21:49.45 | cr2 | qtopia is not started. |
21:50.03 | BabelO | i think it is a new OE feature |
21:50.07 | cr2 | the blue led is not on. |
21:50.11 | BabelO | can you look at /etc/ld.so.conf ? |
21:50.23 | cr2 | yes, hcitool scan works :) |
21:50.47 | cr2 | yes, the fscking /opt/QtPalmtop/lib |
21:50.58 | cr2 | how do we change it = |
21:51.12 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
21:51.20 | cr2 | isn't it redundant ? |
21:51.31 | BabelO | heh he i have to remove those path |
21:51.58 | BabelO | just /opt/Qtopia/lib is needed |
21:52.02 | cr2 | yes. |
21:52.20 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
21:52.34 | BabelO | not at all /usr/local does not exist |
21:52.49 | cr2 | ok. |
21:53.13 | cr2 | we need to think about separating /usr/share/roadmap and /opt/Qtopia/* |
21:54.23 | goxboxlive | why is qtopia running from /opt? I have tested it running from /usr/share and its works just fine |
21:55.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it's a compile time path ? |
21:56.16 | cr2 | then /usr is a good choice. |
21:56.47 | cr2 | BabelO: /etc/init.d/qpe or /etc/init.d/qpe.sh ?? |
21:57.07 | BabelO | cr2: /etc/init.d/qpe start |
21:57.19 | cr2 | BabelO: and you need to control the LEDs in the wince way :) |
21:57.26 | cr2 | and the blue led for bt :) |
21:58.07 | BabelO | cr2: power management is bettar as it is ;) |
21:58.35 | cr2 | + /opt/Qtopia/bin/qpe |
21:58.35 | cr2 | + RETVAL=127 |
21:58.45 | cr2 | it does not start |
21:59.10 | BabelO | ok i install same image as you have then |
21:59.39 | cr2 | ok. |
21:59.47 | BabelO | can you play /etc/init.d/qpe script export command by hand |
21:59.48 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes |
21:59.56 | BabelO | and start qpe in console ? |
22:00.14 | cr2 | goxboxlive: we are on the way to a kickass rom :) |
22:00.22 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, i login over usb. |
22:01.19 | goxboxlive | cr2: good |
22:01.20 | cr2 | goxboxlive: if the osm2garmin cut the roads in a proper way without losing segments, it may have been very nice. |
22:01.37 | cr2 | btw, Oslo is not bad in OSM now, we may create a map. |
22:01.46 | goxboxlive | great |
22:03.52 | cr2 | http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=59.929&lon=10.773&zoom=13 |
22:04.06 | cr2 | BabelO: are you logging gps tracks ? |
22:04.19 | BabelO | cr2: no, why ? |
22:04.48 | cr2 | then you'll have your own free map :) |
22:05.06 | cr2 | log, and upload them to OSM |
22:05.28 | cr2 | goxboxlive: is that map good ? |
22:06.21 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes it looks good |
22:06.50 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok, then we only need to find its squares |
22:07.04 | cr2 | so i can convert it for roadmap. |
22:07.23 | goxboxlive | great thx |
22:07.51 | cr2 | we may convert the whole world, just for fun. |
22:08.10 | cr2 | goxboxlive: btw, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XdaUtils/psdwrite.exe |
22:08.38 | cr2 | i'm booting with qtopia raw image written to the SD |
22:08.50 | cr2 | without any partition table. |
22:09.19 | cr2 | it's like a poor man's rom. |
22:10.00 | cr2 | BabelO: we may think about killing things like libQtScript.so.4.3.2 |
22:10.07 | cr2 | to reduce the image size. |
22:10.29 | cr2 | pxa263 is a 32MB ROM ? |
22:10.36 | cr2 | + 32MB on doc ? |
22:10.59 | cr2 | goxboxlive: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy |
22:11.18 | cr2 | Worldfile for use with QLandkarte or Mapsource: world.tgz (180MB) |
22:11.48 | cr2 | we may think about converting it. |
22:20.39 | goxboxlive | :-) |
22:27.49 | cr2 | 2452 tiles |
22:28.06 | cr2 | -3 |
22:28.11 | cr2 | 2449 |
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23:01.32 | cr2 | good night |
23:09.28 | BabelO | cr2: your problem is from new libts :( my OE take the old one to build this image :( |
23:09.31 | BabelO | good night |