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06:02.17goxboxlivemorning
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08:17.11BabelO_morning
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09:26.37goxboxliveBabelO_: Sometimes i have the same problem on universal modeam as with magician. But the diffrense is universal doesnt segfault. I have noticed that when i change the qtopiamodemcellbroadcast.cpp file it works fine. It seems like it doesnt go further for reading the at chat from the vendor file. Mybe one of the first at chat in the vendor file makes our modem hang. Could that be iit?
09:31.02BabelO_goxboxlive : : no i trace at chat in vendor, that's not a problem, qtopia segfault when it go to qtopiamodem*.cpp file
09:31.50goxboxlivehmm ok
09:33.23BabelOgoxboxlive : i m recompiling without any media engine , to have sound
09:33.38BabelOgoxboxlive : it seem gstreamer won't compile
09:34.03goxboxliveBabelO: i havent had any lucj with gstreamer my self.
09:34.37BabelOgoxboxlive : do you have jpeg support ,
09:34.43BabelOgoxboxlive -image-extension-order 'png,gif,xpm'
09:34.52goxboxliveyes, forget about mediaengine until Trolltech have released the new helix source. I thinks it's right around the corner now.
09:35.40goxboxliveBabelO:  I dont think i have it in my configure file, but i am able to view jpeg photos, so i guess it is supported by default then.
09:36.02BabelOok :)
09:36.31BabelOgoxboxlive : i need a new computer :( it is too slow
09:36.34goxboxliveBa do you kbow when lorn has birthday? Qtopia-4.3.0 should be released tha day before his birthday :-) So i guess helix is out aslo that day.
09:37.04goxboxliveTry to add more RAM, it might help.
09:38.45BabelOgoxboxlive : no i don't :(
10:16.00cr2hi
10:16.05cr2BabelO: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=OMAP850_Registers
10:16.39cr2did a lot of dirty work ;) but not all registers are there yet or documented
10:16.59cr2BabelO: now i need some data on the gpios.
10:17.00BabelOcr2 : good :)
10:17.52BabelOcr2: so good you find dsp register ?
10:18.12cr2pH5
10:18.24cr2but it's documented.
10:18.30cr2http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/doc.html
10:18.43cr2this is too little for gpio data
10:18.53goxboxlivehi cr2
10:19.14cr2you can trace much more things. like SD in/out, all the power management related bits.
10:19.19cr2hi goxboxlive
10:20.11cr26*32=192 gpio bits.
10:20.37cr2then it will be a solid project :)
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10:28.41wildBabelO: hi, i want to know the terminal console status on qtopia!.... is it work?
10:34.48goxboxlivewild: no it doesnt.
10:36.25wildgoxboxlive:  ok.. thankyou!
10:48.43wildBabelO: I try to conf openmoko /etc/network/interface like qtopia, but i don't see usb0 device on my laptop..... there is another step that i do?
10:55.43wildgoxboxlive: and you? can you help me?
11:10.03goxboxlivewild: it's the same basic sytem so it shopuld be the same. Just add 'auto USB0' to your interfaces file. Also change the IP so it does not conflict with the IP of Qtopia
11:13.54wildgoxboxlive: i have 2 scenario: 1)terminal console for opie2 or opwnmoko wifi work
11:14.23wild1) terminal console: I must create it or wait it work
11:15.49wild2) i try to add auto usb in that file...... i try to copy that file from qtopia to openmoko... but don't work..... i try to copy: iw* package, all module (acx included) and pccardctl to openmoko, but wifi don't work..
11:15.58wildcan you suggest something?
11:16.17wildsorry for my bad english
11:18.02goxboxliveI dont have a BA so i am not familiar with the wlan stuff on it. I dont think it's similar to universal.
11:18.27wild:(
11:18.38wildok!
11:24.11wildi hope to meet BabelO ! see you!
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11:48.02elliswayoops
11:48.26elliswaygoxboxlive u about ?
11:50.47elliswayi just got another universal so that i can have 1 for doing linux stuff on and the other with wince when it comes back from htc after having the usb socket repaired
12:04.11goxboxliveellisway: hi, i am at work :-)
12:04.21goxboxliveWell two uni's, that's good
12:04.21elliswayok np
12:04.36elliswayyeh
12:05.02elliswaydecided i cant afford to not have a working uni so i got my self a spare unit
12:05.42elliswaybut means i can also try and help out a bit more with some of the development side of things
12:06.31elliswayjust need to get another hdd for 1 of my nix boxex so that i can setup a build enviroment
12:07.27elliswayi have a feeling that if i tried to get the toolchain and the source i`d run out of space before even typing make
12:08.06ellisway/dev/hda2              13G   13G  178M  99% /
12:08.08elliswayyeh
12:08.10elliswayno chance
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12:35.39BabelOcr2 : so we can use same driver than ba for at command /data ? i mean dpram driver
12:35.47BabelOi know tornado have its driver but...
12:36.35cr2BabelO: why ?
12:36.57cr2we may unify the kernel interface.
12:37.03BabelOok
12:37.17BabelOthis driver look strnage to me
12:37.17cr2there is a dpram on athena too.
12:37.34cr2btw, the look at the sdio_uart driver in .24-rc1
12:37.40cr2maybe even in .23
12:38.00cr2that's the best virtual UART driver i know.
12:38.18cr2maybe we can reuse it.
12:39.09cr2hmm. i wish the hh.org kernel was updated from .21
12:39.12BabelOgood , do you know if there is any plan to upgrade hh kernel ?
12:39.20BabelOok ;) same idea
12:39.44cr2if psokolovsky will not appear soon, we may convince pH5 to do it :)
12:41.44BabelOcr2 : can you point me to a link where a small description of syren is ?
12:56.00cr2BabelO: http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/release/gsm/20060630/gsm-typhoon-0.1.0.tar.gz
12:56.51BabelOcr2: thx, i think it was same i ve tested , i ll look
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15:53.18cr2BabelO: the LCDC is missing. and comparing the list with the OMAP850 diagramm from TI, i don't see some subsystems, or they remain unnamed.
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16:13.58goxboxlivepH5 : What does this mean (ti)
16:14.04goxboxlivepH5:         "Motorola Ezx Platform")
16:14.04goxboxlive<PROTECTED>
16:15.11goxboxlivepH5 forget it i found it
16:15.55BabelOcr2 : for lcdc it seem it is ok, my lcd is working with omap lcd driver
16:31.59cr2goxboxlive: looks like a bug.
16:32.15cr2BabelO: the lcdc is not in the register table.
16:32.51cr2BabelO: do you know where is the TS, GPS and so on ?
16:32.54goxboxlivecr2: no it's not. It's the vendor plugin. Actually the same as BA/MA are using
16:32.55cr2BT, IR
16:33.15cr2goxboxlive: but ezx is not using TI.
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16:33.41goxboxliveSo, when we have the phone working in qtopia for MA/BA we will also have it working for a780
16:33.53goxboxliveBut maybe he plgin stuff are equal
16:33.55cr2no.
16:34.02goxboxliveok
16:34.19cr2a780 has a very strange multiplexor.
16:34.34cr2but there is a kernel driver for it.
16:34.48cr2do you know how to telnet to a780 ?
16:35.05cr2i need to kill this stupid lapisrv
16:35.25cr2if it will not help, i'll throw it away ;)
16:35.44goxboxlivecr2: hmm there is a howto on the moto forums.
16:35.59goxboxlivebut i dont remember where
16:36.41goxboxliveyou can install opie-system for exz and kill it from there i think
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17:17.36BabelOback
17:18.00goxboxlivehi BabelO
17:18.17goxboxlivei have just builded me a openmoko image, man it's slow compared to Qtopia
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17:22.36other_NeoRa_uzergood evening
17:23.41HootsI heard that some of your use a linux on a BA? Its true&
17:24.06BabelOHoots: not really use
17:24.33HootsBabelO you mean thats unuseble os?
17:25.19BabelOit miss some functionality under linux, like sound record,  camera, and phone
17:29.53HootsBabelO hmm. Interesting. you can help me install that? Sorry but i know Linux like you know Russian :)) I can write what i do, and you can correct me?
17:31.03BabelOyes if you want
17:31.18HootsOk
17:31.21BabelObut you need to know linux to install it
17:31.40BabelOit is not really user friendly
17:34.07Hoots<Babelo> I know some command for this operation, but some of them don work. Ok at first i Have "Live cd", can i use it or i must install kubuntu?
17:34.56BabelObetter is to have a card reader, with live cd is ok
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17:35.46HootsYep i have card reader and Live cd. Can you wait a few minutes i reboot Pc from Live cd?
17:35.53BabelOok
17:36.03goxboxlivecr2: how do i figure out the voltage status on universal? cat /sys/class/power_supply/ds2760-battery.0/voltage_now gives me: 3801520
17:36.44BabelOgoxboxlive: it is in uV now ?
17:37.21goxboxliveµV ?
17:37.27goxboxlivethx
17:37.59goxboxliveso you are saying that my battery is U=3,8V?
17:38.07BabelOyes it seem
17:39.53goxboxliveBabelO: µ = [AltGr]+[m]
17:41.14goxboxliveBabelO: why do they use this in the battery.cpp file? http://pastebin.no/2728
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17:42.32Hootsits i again
17:42.40BabelOgoxboxlive: is it n,ot the automatic detection to switch to backup battery when you remove main on fic phone ?
17:43.27goxboxliveBabelO: ok, that's clever
17:44.06BabelOgoxboxlive: i see some line in this code about main/backup battery yesturday
17:44.12goxboxlivewonder why uni/Ma doesnt show the charging animation. It worked on A780
17:44.16HootsBabelO system-console-fdisk /dev/sdc
17:44.25BabelOHoots: you need a full backup of your phone before start
17:45.29Hootsi know :) it absolutly clean i keep all kontakts on sim
17:46.16BabelOHoots: ok :) it is for kontact software i tell you ... but if you have wm it is more safe
17:47.01HootsBabelO dont worry it not your problem :)
17:47.29Hootsthen i write "p" and saw one derection
17:47.40Hootsin fat 32
17:47.54Hootsthen write d
17:48.04Hootsthen n
17:48.19Hootschose primary
17:48.28Hoots1
17:48.50BabelOHoots: ok :)
17:48.51Hootsfirst cylinder must be default?
17:49.08BabelOHoots: yes
17:49.17BabelOor just 1
17:49.31Hootsthen +30M?
17:49.39BabelOyes for fat partition
17:49.50Hootsthen w
17:50.08Hootsmake a new derection ext
17:50.39Hootspartition 2
17:51.05Hootsfirst cylinder default? or .......?
17:51.16BabelOdefault
17:51.27Hootssize too?
17:51.55BabelOyou have a value between parenthesis which is the max value possible
17:52.15cr2goxboxlive: li-ion battery is 4.2V
17:52.35Hootsok max :)
17:53.21cr2BabelO: what is the qtopia image size ?
17:53.24BabelOHoots: the p again to check your partition and partition type
17:53.33BabelOcr2: let me check ;)
17:53.53Hootsbrrrr first partition in lunix not in fat just a moment
17:53.59BabelOcr2: 29145297 Oct  7 23:42 Angstrom-Qtopia-HTCBlueangel-4.3.0.tar.bz2 compressed size
17:54.14BabelOcr2: i ve to boot ba in few minutes now
17:54.19cr2BabelO: not compressed. i'm interested in the SD image size
17:54.25BabelOcr2: yes wait ;)
17:55.25HootsBabelO ok 1fat 2extended, then format bouth?
17:55.36cr2BabelO: there should be a linboot-ba.exe and a dd'able image. this stupid 2-partitioning should come to an end ;)
17:55.49cr2BabelO: wasting a bit of bandwidth is ok .
17:56.24BabelOHoots: first is fat that's ok, second need to be changed with t command then 83 for linux type
17:57.09Hootssecond must be number 83 ? linux ok
17:57.38BabelOthat's ok so
18:00.07HootsBabelO you mean that second must be pimary too?
18:00.31BabelOHoots: let me check my sd card  :)
18:01.14BabelOcr2: hummm my used size on sd is 110484kb ... but i have many tools with qtopia inside :)
18:02.10BabelOHoots: this is my 128Mb card
18:02.12BabelO<PROTECTED>
18:02.12BabelO/dev/sda1               1          62        7920    b  W95 FAT32
18:02.12BabelO/dev/sda2              63         961      115072   83  Linux
18:03.12cr2BabelO: ok, so we need a 128M+ card.
18:03.58BabelOcr2: my 128Mb card we ve roadmap and flite and qtopia
18:04.00BabelO/dev/sda1                 7890      3672      4218  47% /media/usbdisk
18:04.00BabelO/dev/sda2               111429     88119     17557  84% /media/usbdisk-1
18:04.06cr2BabelO: are there any partition geometry limits in wince ?
18:04.15HootsBabelO hmm cant make 2d derection 83 lunix why? it primary or ext derection?
18:04.50BabelOHoots: i think i made two primary partition, first one is fat
18:05.12Hootsheh
18:06.11Hootsit work .....it work
18:06.28Hootsthen we must format all derection?
18:07.02BabelOHoots: yes first one mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1
18:07.12BabelOand second mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc2
18:08.40Hootsmistake whn i format ext strange
18:09.00Hootsit write no such derectori
18:09.12cr2BabelO: rndis does not work for me on athena ;)
18:09.43BabelOHoots: maybe it is command line ?
18:10.27BabelOcr2: you are happy with a non working thing :)
18:11.13BabelOgoxboxlive: ok i ve sound too, but battery meter not working
18:11.18cr2BabelO: i've managed to run wifi on my notebook with an ancient prism2 card. bcm43xx doesn't want to work.
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18:11.42HootsBabelO then i write first command he write to me a date with secooooond same but after he write could not start dev/sdc2 i think its not terrible mistake
18:12.13cr2Hoots: can you format your card in wince ?
18:13.02cr2i doubt that the kernel checks partition id.
18:13.15Hootscr2 win ce? in pocket? or what does it mean ?
18:14.21cr2Hoots: yes, just format the card in wince
18:14.45cr2it will create one partition
18:15.26cr2then run 'mke2fs -j -m 0 /dev/sda1' for this card.
18:15.52cr2and untar the distro there.
18:16.16cr2tar xfvjp distro.tar.bz2 -C /where/is/your/card/mounted
18:16.41Hootso_O
18:16.47cr2then put the linuxboot-ba.exe into \Storage
18:16.52cr2and click on it.
18:17.19cr2BabelO: what was the python command which replaced linboot ?
18:17.32Hootsstop stop stop
18:17.43cr2well, i can stil run linboot, maybe it's half-broken only on the universal.
18:17.52HootsBabelO: all sectors are formated
18:17.56Hootsthen
18:18.42BabelOHoots: mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
18:19.05BabelOHoots: copy haret*.exe zImage and startup.txt to /mnt
18:19.34BabelOHoots: do you have all these files ?
18:19.49BabelOcr2: no idea, it is somewhere in the logs
18:20.16Hootsyes
18:20.20Hootsi have
18:20.26goxboxliveBabelO: i am using ficphone battery file. It is working, it shows the right status, but it doesnt show any animation while charging. It increase it's value when the power is increasing though.
18:21.03BabelOgoxboxlive: i use same, but does not work, i ve to look, does it work on magician too ?
18:21.39goxboxliveBabelO: yes, same as on universal. It has allways worked on both for me.
18:21.54HootsBabelO hmm write : cant find /dev/sdc1/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
18:22.01cr2goxboxlive: some hardcoded machine names ?
18:22.13goxboxlivecr2: no
18:22.20BabelOHoots: mount /dev/sdc1 <space> /mnt
18:22.32BabelOHoots: you miss the space
18:22.43Hootstvay mat
18:23.15Hootsonly root can do that
18:23.35BabelO~x fr ru Vous pouvez utiliser BabelFish pour traduire :)
18:23.44BabelOlol
18:24.11BabelOHoots: and you  haven't this root password ?
18:24.26goxboxlive~x no en dette er en test
18:24.53Hootsyou must   be joking? it live cd
18:26.12cr2Hoots: id ?
18:26.24BabelOHoots: if it is live cd maybe it automount sd card partition when you plug in your sd card
18:27.25HootsBabelO what?
18:27.45BabelOHoots: just unplug then replug your sd card
18:28.05Hootsoo
18:28.10BabelOwhen you open konqueror, with luck you can see sd card partition
18:30.31Hoots30m removable media - kde daemon
18:30.54cr2BabelO: do you really need the first partition ?
18:31.18BabelOcr2: not really, we can hae a one shot start then ;)
18:32.49HootsBabelO owner ubuntu ubuntu permissions drwxr-xr-x? and why when i insert sd linuuux saw 2 card first 30000000000000000000
18:33.04Hoots30 m
18:33.11cr2Hoots: under which id are you running ?
18:33.12Hootssecond 480
18:33.34cr2BabelO: let's agree on a 1 partition setup.
18:33.40BabelOHoots: so it is ok, your partition are mounted
18:34.29HootsBabelO then?
18:34.30BabelOcr2 it is unbuntu ;) new windows-linux world
18:35.24BabelOHoots: to find where are your partition just go to console
18:35.40BabelOHoots:  then "mount" command
18:36.15Hootsyes
18:37.35cr2BabelO: i'm an old hardliner :)
18:38.40Hootsmy brain i think i lost him :(
18:39.33HootsBabelO after mount
18:39.52BabelOHoots: now you see where your partition are mounted ?
18:40.51Hootsi saw a many many rows
18:41.20BabelOHoots: do you have something like this
18:41.20Hootsunifonts on
18:41.30BabelO<PROTECTED>
18:43.17Hoots<PROTECTED>
18:43.32BabelOHoots: good ;)
18:43.41BabelOwhere is sdc1 ?
18:43.57Hootsunder
18:44.38cr2BabelO: can you pack zimage & friends with tools/make-bootbundle.py into a wince.exe ?
18:44.57BabelOHoots: cr2 yes i can if it works on first shot :)
18:45.24BabelOHoots: so you have to copy files haret*exe zImage startup.txt to /media/sdc1
18:46.06HootsBabelO in console or by mouse and table? :)
18:47.11BabelOHoots: as you want in console should be quick, command is :
18:47.32cr2BabelO: try it ;)
18:47.46BabelOcp <where are sources files>/* /media/sdc1
18:47.53BabelOcr2: ok
18:48.08cr2BabelO: where is your zimage & co. ? i'll try it too.
18:48.16HootsBabelO: no thx i do this with mouse :) and then?
18:48.42BabelOcr2: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/O.P.I.E-II/
18:49.07BabelOwith second partition, you have to unpack the tar.bz2 file to it
18:50.10Hootsgpe-ba.tar.bz
18:50.53HootsBabelO in a second partition, i saw a foulder lost+found its normal?
18:51.07BabelOHoots: yes this one, unpack it into /media/sdc2
18:51.12BabelOHoots: yes it is normal
18:51.48cr2BabelO: why do you use such bizarre old haret ? :)
18:52.44BabelOcr2: you are speaking like me at work ;), not so old it is just 5 moth old
18:52.52cr2LOL
19:06.41cr2BabelO: if len(args) != 4:
19:07.05cr2it wants a ramdisk. linload was more bright
19:08.39cr2WARNING: Linload is deprecated. Please see tools/make-bootbundle.py
19:08.42cr2but it works :)
19:12.12cr2BabelO: i've tested it, and it boots.
19:12.28BabelOcr2 good
19:12.31cr2BabelO: now i need to run fdisk on a file with -o loop
19:12.49cr2BabelO: linload-ba1.exe
19:12.56cr2i can upload it to sf.net
19:13.28BabelOcr2 ok or to linuxtogo
19:14.00cr2dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=$((1024*128)) of=junk_qtopia4
19:15.26cr2BabelO: do you know how to run fdisk on a file ?
19:15.40BabelOcr2: losetup :)
19:16.22cr2<PROTECTED>
19:16.37cr2You must set cylinders.
19:16.37cr2You can do this from the extra functions menu.
19:16.37cr2Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)
19:17.05cr2Command (m for help): p
19:17.06cr2Disk junk_qtopia4: 0 MB, 0 bytes
19:17.06cr2255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 0 cylinders
19:17.37cr2Command (m for help): x
19:17.37cr2Expert command (m for help): m
19:17.49cr2<PROTECTED>
19:18.13cr2so, how many cylinders i need ?
19:18.25cr2will wince be happy with 63 sectors/track ?
19:18.41cr2and 255 heads
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19:20.21BabelOcr2: don't know :(
19:20.34cr2BabelO: right now it's
19:20.37cr2Disk /dev/sdb: 125 MB, 125960192 bytes
19:20.37cr24 heads, 61 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders
19:20.37cr2Units = cylinders of 244 * 512 = 124928 bytes
19:20.55cr2hehe. 128M is too much.
19:21.09HootsBabelO i think i made a terrible mistake :| device doesnt work, last what i remember it was a pinguin whit big red eyes
19:21.18BabelOcr2: you setup a virtual disk to save data ?
19:21.36BabelOHoots: no big eye now :)
19:21.45cr2BabelO: no, just run fdisk on a file
19:21.58Hootsyep
19:21.58BabelOHoots: just a progress bar and thena splash screen angstrom
19:22.19Hoots<BabelO> yes
19:22.20BabelOHoots: then you need to wait a while on first boot
19:22.39cr2BabelO: i'll take a 512M card then. and will use it as a 128M.
19:22.59Hoots<BabelO> at this time a made a reboot, and now nothig work
19:24.42Hootsfuuuh it work :)
19:26.10cr2BabelO: this one is even better
19:26.13cr2Disk /dev/sdb: 2059 MB, 2059403264 bytes
19:26.13cr238 heads, 37 sectors/track, 2860 cylinders
19:26.13cr2Units = cylinders of 1406 * 512 = 719872 bytes
19:26.36cr2BabelO: the numbers look completely random.
19:26.43HootsBabelO strange, when i insert sd in device linux start , but i must reboot him?
19:28.39cr2BabelO: does not match when i multiply.
19:31.49Hootscr2 a pingvin with red eyes and 0===== normal?
19:31.55BabelOcr2: does it work with losetup ?
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19:33.16cr2BabelO: how do i use losetup without crypto ?
19:33.31cr2Hoots: what haret and zimage are you using ?
19:33.43cr2Hoots: sounds really ancient.
19:35.03Hoots<cr2> just read http://mobiledevice.ru/Blue-Angel-HTC-Operation-System-ustanovka-Linux.aspx
19:36.25cr2Hoots: it's a 2 years old setup
19:36.41cr22.6.12 kernel
19:37.02cr2i wish we can delete it from gnulinux.biz
19:37.29cr2BabelO: i think nothing is better with this setup.
19:38.14Hoots<cr2> fcuk, fools, what u can say? idiots.... if you have all thats files may you send it to me hootsik@gmail.com
19:39.02cr2Hoots: i'll upload a selfbooting kernel bundle now. you should put it in \Storage. ok ?
19:39.39BabelOcr2: how to do :)
19:39.42BabelO<PROTECTED>
19:39.49BabelOlosetup /dev/loop0 build
19:39.49BabelO<PROTECTED>
19:39.49BabelO<PROTECTED>
19:40.13Hoots2 yers..... they are posted it a few days ago
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19:40.27cr2BabelO: ok, so no crypto. hehe, may be fun with aes.
19:42.43cr2Hoots: http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/
19:42.58cr2you take linload-ba1.exe and put it into \Storage
19:44.36cr2BabelO: only root can use /dev/loop0
19:46.49HootsBabelO cr2 THX very mutch, for your Patience, tommorow i`ll say that they delete that topic about Linux on BA. Sorry for my bad english.
19:47.52cr2Hoots: maybe you'll boot it first ? :)
19:48.26cr2BabelO: losetup uses 255/63
19:48.29cr2Disk /dev/loop1: 134 MB, 134217728 bytes
19:48.29cr2255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 16 cylinders
19:48.29cr2Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
19:49.21Hoots=0)
19:49.37cr2Hoots: did you get the .exe ?
19:51.43Hoots<cr2> download
19:52.07cr2Hoots: are you using GPRS ? such funny reply latency ;)
19:52.48Hoots<cr2> Yep, GPRS :)
19:53.41cr2BabelO: /dev/loop1              126931     80718     46213  64% /mnt
19:53.55cr2Hoots: 80MB over gprs is not funny ;)
19:55.05Hoots<cr2> unlimited :) but...long....
19:56.00cr2ok, get qtopia4 image then.
19:56.23cr2and you can already test booting linux in the meantime.
19:56.40cr2by just running the linload-ba1.exe
19:56.59cr2it will crash, because it can't mount root.
19:57.13cr2and then you need to do a hardreset
19:57.20cr2if you don't use wince5.
19:57.32Hoots<cr2> O_o qtopia image 80mb? it funny like....hmm...
19:57.57cr2Hoots: it has some junk, that we can squeeze out.
19:58.02Hoots<cr2> download lin board next?
19:58.38cr2Hoots: but it also has 'roadmap', a gps route planning app. well, this version can't do route planning now :)
19:58.58cr2Hoots: the exe file is here http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/
19:59.03Hoots<cr2> it doesnt matter, in which foulder 2577 or linux?
19:59.18cr2qtopia4 is at  http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/O.P.I.E-II/
19:59.47cr2Hoots: put it on the device. \Storage is the best, so it will survive the hard reset.
20:00.00cr2but you can put it into any directory.
20:00.14cr2_do not_ put it on the SD.
20:00.43Hootsheh
20:01.33Hoots<cr2> why we need qutopia? can i start linux without?
20:01.58cr2you need some root filesystem
20:02.31Hoots<cr2> your old version?
20:02.36cr2it can be a ramdisk.
20:02.42cr2which old version ?
20:03.00cr2we want a full wince replacement, that's why we use qtopia.
20:03.13cr2not only on the blueangel, but on magician and universal too.
20:03.21cr2soon on hermes and athena :)
20:03.47BabelOand artemis in a far future ;)
20:04.58Hootsmen you are genius or crazy? :)))) why are you doing that?
20:05.30cr2BabelO: tracing and documenting :)
20:06.19cr2Hoots: it's already running on magician and universal. universal just needs better power management support to stay alive longer.
20:07.18cr2Hoots: and i booted linux on athena 6 months ago ;) it's only now we gathered all necessary data and useful drivers.
20:07.44Hootsheh THX, i m going to sleep, thx for your help, in monday i`ll back :)) with all soft :)))
20:07.54cr2and as i told you, linux on blueangel was running 2 years ago.
20:07.58cr2ok.
20:09.15cr2BabelO: dd if=qtopia4 of=/dev/sdb bs=512
20:09.58BabelOcr2: but i erase sd card information then
20:10.09BabelO:)
20:11.25cr2yes, that's on purpose.
20:11.44cr2it's a 2GB card, but i write only 128M.
20:14.27cr2BabelO: it's a good idea to keep http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel uptodate
20:14.47BabelOcr2: it is up to date ;)
20:15.12cr2otherwise it's translated into other languages after two years, and the people wonder why linux is such a complex piece of shit :)
20:16.18cr2hehe. wince wanted to format my nice new card.
20:17.11cr2BabelO: i've replaced the .ico in my linload.exe :)
20:17.39cr2to the .ico used in gnu-haret. the linuxbios logo :)
20:17.50BabelOyou use arm-wince-gcc ?
20:18.10cr2no. cegcc
20:18.13cr2http://linuxbios.org/index.php/Welcome_to_LinuxBIOS
20:18.28cr2top left corner
20:18.38BabelOhe he :)
20:18.45BabelOi want a war tux
20:18.53cr2i find it cool for the linux bootloader .
20:18.54BabelOor tux army
20:19.20cr2when you'll create the rom flashable with RUU :D
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20:21.06cr2BabelO: "unknown partition table"
20:22.47cr2BabelO: weird.
20:23.00cr2it's /dev/sdb now.
20:23.21cr2no partition table also
20:24.19cr2root=/dev/mmcblk0 ?
20:24.23BabelOcr2: yes dd broke all i do already this experience with an hdd, i dd a 425 Mo drive the dd of to a 2Gb drive, result is my 2Gb drive look like a 420 Mb drive :(
20:27.40cr2yes, it's ok.
20:27.52cr2but the partition table is broken for some reason.
20:31.42cr2lol
20:31.58cr2BabelO: booted without the partition table.
20:32.12cr2oe splash sux.
20:32.21BabelOcr2: linux is really better than windows :)
20:32.28cr2can we have a qtopia related splash ?
20:32.57cr2now it hangs on bluetooth.
20:33.04BabelOhumm need to ask ljp about that ;) or we add your new tux friend as boot screen ;)
20:35.04cr2BabelO: why does it hang after starting bt ?
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20:35.58cr2usb0 addr ?
20:36.06BabelOcr2: don't know we have exactly same image, or it is first boot and it take more time
20:36.25BabelO192.168.0.201 for host and 192.168.0.202 for ba
20:36.28cr2maybe, but it's confusing
20:36.31cr2ok.
20:38.17cr2lsusb is ok, but i can't ping.
20:38.39BabelOtry 192.168.1.206 then for ba if it is first image
20:38.48BabelOnow i use standard oe ip
20:39.24cr21.206 ?
20:39.32BabelOues
20:39.49cr2i can't use it, 1.0 is wifi ;)
20:40.19BabelOhe he route add 192.168.1.206 gw 192.168.1.205
20:40.31BabelOwhere 192.168.1.205 is usb0
20:41.53cr2yes, logged in
20:41.58cr2192.168.1.1
20:42.01cr2is the host
20:42.21cr2<PROTECTED>
20:42.29cr2afair it's the AT ?
20:43.00BabelOi don y know how to remove this default oz
20:43.16cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Serial
20:43.40cr2maybe that's the reason for unhappy qtopia ?
20:43.58cr2patch /etc/inittab
20:44.10cr2which package owns /etc/inittab ?
20:45.08cr2serial is /dev/ttyS2 on ba
20:45.17cr2but it is still hanging.
20:45.49cr2btw, how do you use bt ?
20:46.02BabelOcr2: hciattach ?
20:46.03cr2i had a custom driver on universal
20:46.13cr2yeah, but it's not started
20:46.25cr2but the bt daemons are started.
20:46.38BabelOi ve to make a clean image, i know, but no time actually :(
20:46.53cr2hciattach will not handle suspend/resume
20:47.17cr2rfcomm                 35868  0
20:47.21cr2hidp                   15040  2
20:47.21cr2l2cap                  20580  10 rfcomm,hidp
20:47.21cr2g_ether                24076  0
20:47.21cr2blueangel_pcmcia        4064  1
20:47.21cr2pxa2xx_core            11648  1 blueangel_pcmcia
20:47.22cr2pcmcia_core            31952  1 pxa2xx_core
20:47.23BabelOmaybe with have to use nokia driver ;)
20:47.24cr2that's all
20:47.30cr2?
20:47.46cr2you need just to pull some gpios.
20:47.55BabelOcr2: yes i have a brf6150 driver from nokia kernel
20:48.25cr2hciattach /dev/ttyS1 texas 115200
20:48.26cr2?
20:48.41cr2it's a piece of shit, and not a driver :)
20:48.49cr2Initialization timed out.
20:49.03BabelOhciattach -S tibt...bts /dev/ttyS" texas
20:49.08BabelOhciattach -S tibt...bts /dev/ttyS3 texas
20:49.09cr2hm hwuart
20:49.22cr2hciattach /dev/ttyS3 texas 115200
20:49.28cr2yes, now it works.
20:49.38cr2the .bts is also irrelevant, btw ;)
20:50.05cr2we need to do our own, of make a hcitool shell script hack.
20:50.13cr2s/of /or /
20:52.36cr2root@htcblueangel:~$ hcitool  scan
20:52.36cr2Scanning ...
20:53.07cr201:13:A4:C8:22:65       Ameo
20:53.09cr2:)
20:53.39cr2but qtopia still does not start
20:53.58BabelOcr2: ldconfig ?
20:54.05BabelOtry qpe by hand
20:54.31cr2hehe.
20:54.42cr2why it's not an rc script ?
20:55.01cr2how do i start it manually ?
20:55.02BabelOhum yes it is i think .. which image did you take ?
20:55.14BabelOlook in /etc/init.d/qpe
20:55.29cr2<PROTECTED>
20:55.45BabelOoh ! really old image ;)
20:55.51cr2no /etc/init.d/qpe
20:56.04cr2it's what you have at linuxtogo
20:56.20BabelOreally .. humm i have to replace it then
20:56.27cr2and what the russian guy will download over gprs ;)
20:57.17cr2i need to calibrate the screen.
20:57.26BabelOts_calibrate ?
20:57.52cr2now it started.
20:58.04cr2no battery, but the bt icon is on :)
20:58.28cr2and it's too dark for me.
20:58.45cr2more warm colors will help the default install.
21:00.14cr2BabelO: is there a screen calibration tool in qtopia ?
21:00.31BabelOcr2: it seem yes, there is a menu inside for that
21:01.12cr2well, but if there is no /etc/pointercal, it should be running before everything.
21:01.46BabelOyes but it does not start automatically as it is written into qtopia doc :( it need primarydevice=Touchscreen
21:02.05cr2what about wifi ?
21:02.22BabelOwifi works .. do you have pccardctl into this image ?
21:03.13cr2no.
21:03.31cr2can you upload a working image ?
21:03.40BabelOso it is really wrong image, i don't understand, ok let me do a fresh one to replace
21:03.58cr2and i guess we need to solve the screen calibration issue. and bt.
21:04.06cr2otherwise it's not very useful
21:04.13cr2and the getty on modem ;)
21:04.33BabelOyes i already solve all this issue on  image i have here ....
21:04.38BabelOi just use it today
21:06.45BabelOwait few minutes ;)
21:06.56cr2ok.
21:08.10cr2wince is inasen
21:08.15cr2Disk /dev/sdb: 2059 MB, 2059403264 bytes
21:08.19cr21 heads, 62 sectors/track, 64875 cylinders
21:08.23cr2Units = cylinders of 62 * 512 = 31744 bytes
21:08.27cr2Disk identifier: 0x00000000
21:08.27cr2<PROTECTED>
21:08.27cr2/dev/sdb1               1       64876     2011135+   5  Extended
21:08.27cr2Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
21:08.27cr2/dev/sdb5               1       64876     2011135    b  W95 FAT32
21:08.28cr2wtf ?
21:08.46cr2i let it format the card :)
21:13.33BabelOcr2: ok image finished ;)
21:14.16cr2:)
21:15.35BabelOcompressing now
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21:17.36cr27z ?
21:18.18BabelOcr2: not this format again ;)
21:19.00BabelOuploading
21:22.20BabelOfinished
21:23.01BabelOcr2: you can download
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21:27.32cr2downloading
21:29.35cr2BabelO: 61MB ?
21:29.54BabelOhum :)
21:30.00cr2that is very good. we can further stip it down.
21:30.06cr2s/stip/strip/
21:30.51BabelOalready downloaded ?
21:31.09BabelOon first boot you have to wait a little :(
21:32.21cr2can we add a message ?
21:32.34cr2please wait for 50 sec :)
21:32.43BabelOhumm yes instead of angstrom boot screen i can make something
21:33.42BabelOhe he i just install flite ;)
21:34.40BabelOi ve to install roadmap when i finish :)
21:35.06BabelOmaybe tsdogs advance a lot these day :)
21:37.41cr2create a .bb ?
21:39.03cr2BabelO: loading without a partition table is fun.
21:39.40cr2this way we can use 'sdtool' from itsutils ? hmm, how it is called ?
21:39.44BabelOcr2: i often get back hardrive what windows don't want
21:40.35cr2sdwrite.exe
21:41.24cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XdaUtils/psdwrite.exe
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21:43.13BabelOcr2: does this image boot ?
21:46.20cr2yes, but the qtopia is not started ?
21:46.30BabelOwait ;)
21:46.34BabelOit start
21:47.29cr2ping 192.168.1.206
21:47.33cr2does not work too.
21:47.46cr2it said
21:47.56cr2INIT: no more processes in this runlevel.
21:48.00BabelOno no, this image is done from OE, so it is latest 192.168.0.202
21:48.13BabelOyes it is ok, i think it should start
21:48.29cr2ok.
21:49.01cr2no.
21:49.16cr2wow. you load the old brf6150 firmware ?
21:49.23BabelOyes
21:49.31cr2hardcore :)
21:49.37BabelOqtopia does not start ?
21:49.38cr2does it work =
21:49.43BabelOyes
21:49.45cr2qtopia is not started.
21:50.03BabelOi think it is a new OE feature
21:50.07cr2the blue led is not on.
21:50.11BabelOcan you look at /etc/ld.so.conf ?
21:50.23cr2yes, hcitool scan works :)
21:50.47cr2yes, the fscking /opt/QtPalmtop/lib
21:50.58cr2how do we change it =
21:51.12cr2<PROTECTED>
21:51.20cr2isn't it redundant ?
21:51.31BabelOheh he i have to remove those path
21:51.58BabelOjust /opt/Qtopia/lib is needed
21:52.02cr2yes.
21:52.20cr2<PROTECTED>
21:52.34BabelOnot at all  /usr/local does not exist
21:52.49cr2ok.
21:53.13cr2we need to think about separating /usr/share/roadmap and /opt/Qtopia/*
21:54.23goxboxlivewhy is qtopia running from /opt? I have tested it running from /usr/share and its works just fine
21:55.58cr2goxboxlive: it's a compile time path ?
21:56.16cr2then /usr is a good choice.
21:56.47cr2BabelO: /etc/init.d/qpe or /etc/init.d/qpe.sh ??
21:57.07BabelOcr2: /etc/init.d/qpe start
21:57.19cr2BabelO: and you need to control the LEDs in the wince way :)
21:57.26cr2and the blue led for bt :)
21:58.07BabelOcr2: power management is bettar as it is ;)
21:58.35cr2+ /opt/Qtopia/bin/qpe
21:58.35cr2+ RETVAL=127
21:58.45cr2it does not start
21:59.10BabelOok i install same image as you have then
21:59.39cr2ok.
21:59.47BabelOcan you play /etc/init.d/qpe script export command by hand
21:59.48goxboxlivecr2:  yes
21:59.56BabelOand start qpe in console ?
22:00.14cr2goxboxlive: we are on the way to a kickass rom :)
22:00.22cr2BabelO: yes, i login over usb.
22:01.19goxboxlivecr2: good
22:01.20cr2goxboxlive: if the osm2garmin cut the roads in a proper way without losing segments, it may have been very nice.
22:01.37cr2btw, Oslo is not bad in OSM now, we may create a map.
22:01.46goxboxlivegreat
22:03.52cr2http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=59.929&lon=10.773&zoom=13
22:04.06cr2BabelO: are you logging gps tracks ?
22:04.19BabelOcr2: no, why ?
22:04.48cr2then you'll have your own free map :)
22:05.06cr2log, and upload them to OSM
22:05.28cr2goxboxlive: is that map good ?
22:06.21goxboxlivecr2: yes it looks good
22:06.50cr2goxboxlive: ok, then we only need to find its squares
22:07.04cr2so i can convert it for roadmap.
22:07.23goxboxlivegreat thx
22:07.51cr2we may convert the whole world, just for fun.
22:08.10cr2goxboxlive: btw, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XdaUtils/psdwrite.exe
22:08.38cr2i'm booting with qtopia raw image written to the SD
22:08.50cr2without any partition table.
22:09.19cr2it's like a poor man's rom.
22:10.00cr2BabelO: we may think about killing things like libQtScript.so.4.3.2
22:10.07cr2to reduce the image size.
22:10.29cr2pxa263 is a 32MB ROM ?
22:10.36cr2+ 32MB on doc ?
22:10.59cr2goxboxlive: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy
22:11.18cr2Worldfile for use with QLandkarte or Mapsource: world.tgz (180MB)
22:11.48cr2we may think about converting it.
22:20.39goxboxlive:-)
22:27.49cr22452 tiles
22:28.06cr2-3
22:28.11cr22449
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23:01.32cr2good night
23:09.28BabelOcr2: your problem is from new libts :( my OE take the old one to build this image :(
23:09.31BabelOgood night

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